calamity-addon-talk

[maiden cobalt]

thats the goal

[limber raptor]

guys whats the best rogue weapon for eye of cuthulu

[maiden cobalt]

i remember the DS drop being pretty good

[limber raptor]

ds?

[maiden cobalt]

desert scourge

[amber elk]

whats the best mage weapon for them

[maiden cobalt]

go kill that guy first, use crystaline

[limber raptor]

okay

[limber raptor]

wait what

[amber elk]

oh wait i also forgot im using wrath of the machines

[limber raptor]

do i firstly kill the desert scourge now?

[maiden cobalt]

mhm

[limber raptor]

bettttttttttt

[maiden cobalt]

kill DS then fight EoC

[late path]

get infernal kris

carries you till hivemind

[limber raptor]

so like what weapon do i use for desert scourge

[maiden cobalt]

crystalline

its quite powerful

[late path]

i used infernal kris

[solar badger]

Wrath of the gods is sick bruh

[amber elk]

WHATS THE BEST WEAPONS FOR EXO MECHS PRE SCAL

[neon stag]

Depends on your class really

[onyx igloo]

The best in general is probably Halibut Cannon, the other primordial wyrm drops are also decent

Lilies of Finality are the best summon on tier

Class dependant is a lot more difficult to do since I haven't used all of it yet

[amber elk]

mage

[neon stag]

okay, I have no idea

[neon stag]

Probably the jared drops

he drops 2 op mage weapons

[onyx igloo]

i forget his name is jared

but yeah the mage drops are great

[amber elk]

thing is

my breath

[onyx igloo]

Infinjte

Jared gives infinite breath

He is very kind in giving you lung capacity

[sudden wraith]

Can I combine calamity/thorium/fargo soul together? Me and my friends just finished Inferium so we looking for new stuff.

[onyx igloo]

@frank mauve how did you find me

[fading dove]

gangstalking

[neon stag]

[solar badger]

how am i supposed to get sulphuric scales for a ball o fugu for slime god

[fading dove]

same way you do in basecal

[sudden wraith]

Does sub-worlds not work in Inferium multiplayer? One of us need to fight Great Sand shark for mats

[solar badger]

so do i just go fuck myself until an acid rain happens or what

[fading dove]

have you beaten eoc yet

if not, then beating it for the first time force starts an acid rain

[fading dove]

reaper tooth necklace is not that good

[frank mauve]

i was surprised when i clicked replies and found u ngl

[solar badger]

dude why the fuck does slime god just despawn

this shit is so annoying

ahh you have to kill the mat the same time

[dense eagle]

dont have him offscreen

[somber basin]

shroomed works with avatar of emptiness right

[cunning folio]

you cannot get too far away from it

also sometimes it despawns out of pure spite

it happened to me like 5 times once

[late path]

is inf polterghast consifered annooyinh

[smoky dock]

it depends on the person

To me? No.

But that said, plenty of people loathe it yeah

[late path]

is loathe love it

[smoky dock]

No

Loathe is the opposite of love

[late path]

whayt weapon should i go for stealth only inf dog

[frank mauve]

reality rupture

[maiden cobalt]

isnt dumbell okay

like. memewise lol

[smoky dock]

Experimentation is king and there are lots of options, so try a bunch

[frank mauve]

isnt dumbbell post polter

[smoky dock]

I think Jaws of Oblivion is preferred

[maiden cobalt]

they're on DoG

[late path]

i already did polter

[smoky dock]

dumbbell is dropped by reaper sharks

[frank mauve]

i thought they were against polter

[maiden cobalt]

they beat it i presume

[frank mauve]

old reaper, twisting thunder and jaws are nice

[smoky dock]

jaws of friendlvion

[late path]

is this good equipment for the dog

[frank mauve]

nice jaws

🥹

[smoky dock]

looks standard

[frank mauve]

is that tarragon

[late path]

oh what should i use for old duke

[maiden cobalt]

Devourer of Burgers, Friend of Grills

[smoky dock]

oh you're right lmao

[late path]

pretend its bloodflare

[smoky dock]

that is tarragon

[frank mauve]

i will pretend its bloodflare

[smoky dock]

anyways the only part of that which isn't standard is absorber but absorber's fine anyways so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[maiden cobalt]

absorber is goated

why both of the gloves

[unkempt stream]

Omega blue is cooler tho 🙁

[maiden cobalt]

unless im an idiot?

[late path]

affliction instead?

[smoky dock]

affliction's fine

stealth rogue doesn't appreciate it as much as anyone else would

[smoky dock]

That's Electrician's Glove, not Glove of Recklessness

[late path]

8+ armour pen worth for dog

[smoky dock]

lmao

+8 armor penetration means that all of your attacks will deal a flat 4 extra damage

[frank mauve]

it does more than just armor pen anyway

[maiden cobalt]

why does rogue have four gloves

[smoky dock]

(critical hits instead deal 8 more damage instead)

[late path]

8% damage going to do so much

[fading dove]

on body segments that rounds down to 0 extra damage

[smoky dock]

you're forgetting the gloves

[late path]

2 hp going to work

[frank mauve]

personally i would only get it for nanotech

[maiden cobalt]

replace reckleness with a tonic of recklessness or summin

make it an alcohol

but

acc

change NOTHING about it other than its a glove

[smoky dock]

The stealth damage bonuses are multiplicitive, so on a stealth setup it'll behave more closely to, like... uhhhh

[maiden cobalt]

(i HATE spriters.)

[late path]

how do i do that

[maiden cobalt]

no im spitballing here

[smoky dock]

48%-ish

[maiden cobalt]

your gear is fine

go kill DoG, ramdash his head when you see the lil circle

[late path]

ive done it before but i had to cheat

[smoky dock]

that's 2 HP of lifesteal per projectile unaffected by the regen cap so if you're consistently hitting then it should be closer to 6 HP/s

[late path]

thats why i restarted cuz i felt very bad

[maiden cobalt]

respectable

my johnest opinion is "play the game how it feels fun"

[smoky dock]

^

[maiden cobalt]

if you wanna obliterate everyone, do it

[late path]

but the stealth strike is going to happen every 2 secs

[smoky dock]

as long as you're not shitting on other players by doing so then it's all gucci

[maiden cobalt]

if you wanna go through the painball, do that

[late path]

the whole point of infernam is the paintball

[maiden cobalt]

if you feel bad for cheating and wanna restart, then do so

[smoky dock]

a few stealth strikes produce more projectiles than just one

[late path]

it counts every projectile?

[smoky dock]

Every one yes

Each one can trigger the heal once, I think

[chrome moth]

just take some damage and test

personally i wouldnt use electrician glove that late

[smoky dock]

Also and half-decent rogue setup will get stealth strikes faster than once every two seconds

[smoky dock]

you don't even need to take damage, lifesteal is considered direct healing so you can look at the little green numbers

[chrome moth]

right

even then the stats are so bad for stealth lol

%dmg and flat pen

[smoky dock]

Testing and experimentation is king, especially the uhhhhh

Especially testing and experimenting on boss fights

[smoky dock]

the damage bonus might be multiplicitive

Not sure

[fading dove]

mult damage is rare to come by

[late path]

is this big enough for the dawg

[fading dove]

:(

that makes me sad

[chrome moth]

how would multiplicative damage be calculated

[fading dove]

you do not need to go underground

[chrome moth]

if we have the total stealth dmg

[fading dove]

multiplies your damage%

[smoky dock]

(Damage% + 100%)* Mult%

[chrome moth]

it just multiplies the total?

[smoky dock]

Yep

[fading dove]

for example if you had 350% and dsa, it'd be 3.5*1.2

[smoky dock]

Well it boosts the FINAL damage, so you need to add 1

[late path]

so what should i replace the hand witih

[smoky dock]

If you have 0% melee damage then your melee attacks will absolutely not be dealing 0 damage

[smoky dock]

throw shit in there and see what happens

[late path]

you got it

[smoky dock]

You have no idea how an accessory will affect your gameplay without playing the game with it

[chrome moth]

no its not multiplicative lol

stat meter shows an exact change

ah no it is

check this

[late path]

why isnt the sdhark spwanig

[chrome moth]

its giving 12% dmg

[smoky dock]

what the fuck

[chrome moth]

its ass

[smoky dock]

is it Menacing

[chrome moth]

no

[smoky dock]

????

[chrome moth]

wait

[smoky dock]

401% * 1.08 should be way fucking more than 12%

[chrome moth]

it is multiplicative

[smoky dock]

It says it only applies to stealth strikes so it might only apply once the attack happens

[fading dove]

yeah itd be ~432%

[chrome moth]

sorry i thought it just changed directly because one of the accessories had silent

[smoky dock]

ah yeah silent is kringe

[chrome moth]

when glove is equipped, the %damage doesnt change

so it should be multiplicative i guess?

stat meter shows no changes whatsoever

[smoky dock]

good stuff

[late path]

where does reaver shark spawn in the infernuim abyss

[smoky dock]

still not sure if it's relevant though

[smoky dock]

At the very bottom, at the fourth layer

If you're getting bobbit worms and eidolon wyrms you're good

[chrome moth]

i will try to test with more accurate DPS mods

[maiden cobalt]

i kept getting reapers for some reason

[fading dove]

bobbit worms retreat into the ground when something much more dangerous (eidolon wyrms or reaper sharks) appreoaches

[maiden cobalt]

eidolons and bobbits were really really really rare

[fading dove]

its a coin flip

[maiden cobalt]

6 times in a row?

[fading dove]

yeah

[maiden cobalt]

damn !

[fading dove]

1.56% chance

[maiden cobalt]

awesome

thats actually not horrible odds

if it was 7 times i woulda been mad

but 6 is fine

[fading dove]

glad it was only 6 and not 7

[maiden cobalt]

yea

[gritty gazelle]

hi

[maiden cobalt]

6 is okay 7 is not

[late path]

i cab fight goozma any time?

[smoky dock]

7 8 9

[fading dove]

there's a hard lock, it's gotta be post wof

[maiden cobalt]

no....

[fading dove]

other than that go nuts

[maiden cobalt]

oh wait a second yea

goozmas just sludge in slime rain

[late path]

should i flex with the dumbell

[maiden cobalt]

if you're stealthing probably

[smoky dock]

hell yeah

[maiden cobalt]

aw what

[fading dove]

this is on basecal exrev but i dont think itd be much better

[maiden cobalt]

i mean to be honest

you really just want a fast homing projectile

[late path]

it uses the stealth bar

[fading dove]

jaws of oblivion is the best stealth for inf dog iirc

[maiden cobalt]

since you're basically ramming the entire time

[smoky dock]

why in the flying fuck do you need a homing projectile for DoG

there are one hundred and two hitboxes each larger than you are and you need an aimbot to hit one?

[late path]

does inferno make enemies have less hp

bosses*

[fading dove]

some things have more hp while some things have less

for example, basecal expert death golem has 111k hp while infernum golem has 198k

[smoky dock]

infernum DoG has the same HP as in expert death

1,789,999 HP iirc

[fading dove]

some things also have the same

[late path]

old dike?

[fading dove]

slightly less

basecal is 960k while inf is 936k

[late path]

why did duke fishron just get murked by the rift in the sky

[gloomy wedge]

The fog doesn’t like him

[maiden cobalt]

wait seriously

i didnt know that could happen

[late path]

can dog be eaten

[fossil saffron]

no

just fish

[maiden cobalt]

why just fishron

[fossil saffron]

just old duke specifically

rift likes aged fish

[maiden cobalt]

oh thats funny!

[gloomy wedge]

The wotg devs don’t like old duke

[maiden cobalt]

i thought it was fishron not old duke

that makes sense

[smoky dock]

it's a creative bug fix

[maiden cobalt]

whats the bug

[smoky dock]

old duke

[maiden cobalt]

thats a duke, actually

[gloomy wedge]

No it’s an old

[smoky dock]

instead of patching it out they creatively canonized it

[maiden cobalt]

oh fuck you're right

i cant be bothered to reply

my hands are tired somehow

[smoky dock]

⭐

[late path]

infernum dog is so hard that i first tried regular dog

do i keep trying inf dog without upgrading my gearset or do i try with upgraded set

or move on

[smoky dock]

Keep upgrading and switching things around until you’re absolutely certain there’s nothing you can do to improve

[maiden cobalt]

i johnestly reccomend just getting the ramdash timing down

most gear can defeat inf dog

[late path]

the ram dash timing isnt the problem

actually yeah

how do i stop him from overlapping on himeld

[maiden cobalt]

keep moving left or right

you desperately want this guy to be making big up and down squiggles

[lucid rapids]

Anyone know any mods that can optimize calamity so it runs better

[ebon light]

what class should i go with for my first infernum playthrough ?

[late path]

me personally i think mage is the easiest

[ebon light]

oh hell nah

im playing mage right now on normal calamity

[late path]

what are you doing then to hate it

[ebon light]

sometimes its broken and sometimes its so shit its crazy

[late path]

you have good homing options for mech bosses, providence and the sentinals and polterghast

[gloomy wedge]

Whichever one you’re having fun with

[ebon light]

well i just killed ml and up to this point it hasnt been amazing

[gloomy wedge]

It really doesn’t matter most of the time

[gloomy wedge]

It’s not btw

[ebon light]

the thing is that every class has a point where its pretty weak and i dont want it to be weak on a hard boss

[gloomy wedge]

Mage is almost certainly the worst class in the game

[ebon light]

which bosses are the worst on infernum?

[late path]

i said i think

[gloomy wedge]

Summoner doesn’t

[ebon light]

nah it does

[gloomy wedge]

As in the hardest? Most people will struggle with any of Skeletron, Profaned Guardians, Devourer of Gods, Yharon, and Supreme Calamitas on their first playthrough

[ebon light]

when i played it, it was dogshit until i have gotten ice clapper

[gloomy wedge]

You may also have some trouble with CalClone, Aquatic Scourge, Moon Lord, or Empress

[gloomy wedge]

You were playing it wrong then

[ebon light]

.-.

[gloomy wedge]

Summoner pre hm is BROKEN broken

[ebon light]

the whips have 0,5 cm range

[gloomy wedge]

Vile feeders are better than some hardmode weapons

Then use obsidian armor

[ebon light]

im using the unofficial calamity whips too

[gloomy wedge]

Plus you have stuff like rusty beacon prototype

Brittle stars

[late path]

you might aswell go catalyst

[gloomy wedge]

Necrosteocytes

[neon stag]

Hardmode doesnt have a single bad phase for summoner

neither does post moonlord

[ebon light]

maybe im just shit idk

[gloomy wedge]

Tbf ice claspers aren’t ideal for non-worms, but also you could just rush aquatic scourge and get deepsea to ignore that whole problem

[neon stag]

Just fight as pre mechs

[gloomy wedge]

Yeah

[neon stag]

thats what I did

[ebon light]

my entire strat has just been to go in circles for every boss 😭

[neon stag]

Or, I actually fought plantera first boss into hm

[gloomy wedge]

And then summoner stays top 1 for basically the entire game?

[neon stag]

but thats what I would do

[late path]

better than run in one straight line

[gloomy wedge]

Yk that meme with the bell curve where the worst and best players have the exact same strategy?

It’s like that for bosses

[ebon light]

yes

and i pray that my wing time is enough to dodge some projectiles

so yeah

[gloomy wedge]

It definitely is if you run aero stone

[ebon light]

ive done infernum dog thats the only infernum boss ive beaten

[gloomy wedge]

Underrated accessory btw

[ebon light]

it took me 146 attempts

[gloomy wedge]

That’s normal dw

Inf dog FARMS attempts

[ebon light]

my biggest concern is scal and exo mechs definietly

[gloomy wedge]

If you beat him in under 100 on your first run you’re an anomaly

[indigo patio]

I mean you have to give up an accessory slot for it so... It averages out

[ebon light]

i mean hes not THAT bad once you learn how to position him in order to ram

cuz sometimes he gets fucked and idk when to dash

and i die

[gloomy wedge]

Exos isn’t too hard if you know what you’re doing

Especially since thanatos basically doesn’t exist

Scal is probably the 2nd hardest fight in the mod? Guardians are harder imo

[ebon light]

i HATE scals bullet hell

whoever designed it should be sent to hell

[gloomy wedge]

Bullet hells are dead in inf

[ebon light]

wdym?

[gloomy wedge]

At least the scal ones are

[gloomy wedge]

She doesn’t go invincible anymore

Outside of desp

[ebon light]

cal clone bullet hell is so shit too because youre way less mobile

[gloomy wedge]

And brothers and seekers ig but those are exceptions

[delicate wagon]

In infernum they’re not that hard once you learn

[ebon light]

oh yeah desperation phases are a little scary to me

[delicate wagon]

Def easier than others

[delicate wagon]

The only hard ones legit are polterghast and scal

We don’t talk about the cultist

[ebon light]

ive been playing calamity since 2022 and guardians have been shit since then

i dont know who made them so hard

[delicate wagon]

Infernum guardians are hard as hell

But I think it’s a good thing

[ebon light]

Why

Providence doesn't seem that hard

[delicate wagon]

Because they’re guardians

They protect providence

So it’s normal they’re harder to kill than her

[ebon light]

Just 5billion projectiles like all the other bosses

[gloomy wedge]

Guardians is the cold water to the face after you slept through hardmode

[delicate wagon]

Yup

That too

Guardians being hard is a good way to say “yo it’s post moonlord now you silly”

[ebon light]

I don't think ml is easy

It's very unfair on normal calamity

[delicate wagon]

I one tried it on my infernum replay

[delicate wagon]

It’s strong on rev yes

[ebon light]

Also why do dots exist? Just make the projectile do more damage 😑

[delicate wagon]

Wdym

[ebon light]

I'm playing exp death, and sometimes it spawns the death ray on top of you and there's nothing you can do about that

[ebon light]

Damage over time

[delicate wagon]

Oh I thought you were on infernum

[ebon light]

You get hit for a lot by the projectile and then even more by the dot

[delicate wagon]

Ah

[delicate wagon]

I mean I don’t see what’s wrong about that

It can save you in some case when you’re close to cooldown potion to end

[ebon light]

The damage is dealtover 1-2seconds so it rarely changes much

[delicate wagon]

And it’s just better than just “haha straight up half your life is gone”

[ebon light]

On dog it forced me to drink pot every time I got hit to reset the dot

[delicate wagon]

And life regen makes the DoT fine

[ebon light]

Oh no it doesn't

I don't know what kind of life Regen do you have

[delicate wagon]

Well it helps

It doesn’t cancel

But helps

Helps more than if it was instant damage

[split grail]

best weapon for plantera and calclone

infernum

[elder nebula]

class??

[delicate wagon]

Class and equipment?

[neon stag]

For plantera:
Submarine shocker, glorious end, hellborn, Cryogenic staff, deep sea staff

for calcone, probably the same things im ngl.

[gloomy wedge]

and crushsaw if youre rogue i think

[split grail]

melee

[gloomy wedge]

subshocker for both

[delicate wagon]

Biome blade works

[neon stag]

Correct.

[neon stag]

Subshocker is the best for both, biome blade is ass

[delicate wagon]

With forest attunement

[delicate wagon]

Is it?

[neon stag]

gets a slower kill time than some phm weapons

[split grail]

i don’t wanna use subshocker i’ve tried it and im too ass…

[neon stag]

its bad. I wouldnt use it

[delicate wagon]

How

[neon stag]

You could use something like the darklight greatsword for calcone then brimlash for plantera in that case

[delicate wagon]

I used it and it worked super well

[neon stag]

By dealing low dmg?

[neon stag]

Its viable yes but nowhere near the best

[delicate wagon]

It worked very well for me

[neon stag]

I got a faster plantera killtime using the vile feeder iirc

[delicate wagon]

I used to use Ark of ancients

[delicate wagon]

Which attunement?

[neon stag]

Forest

Its bad.

[delicate wagon]

I used a mix of forest and ice

Brimlash works too

I remember that one

[neon stag]

Brimlash is mediocre as well but its very braindead to use just spam it from off screen

subshocker gets a sub 30s kill on plantera iirc, defo clears every other melee option

[delicate wagon]

What even is subshocker I can’t find it on the wiki

[neon stag]

Submarine shocker

[delicate wagon]

Oh that shit

[neon stag]

Its a shortsword dropped by aquatic scourge

[delicate wagon]

Yeah I mean no shit

[neon stag]

a direct upgrade to the shortsword dropped from ds (I think it got deleted?)

[delicate wagon]

Just use ram and that

[delicate wagon]

The short sword from ds is a dual short sword

[neon stag]

Slagsplitter + subshocker op

[delicate wagon]

Yeah but ig it makes a fight boring

[neon stag]

Yeah the old shortsword got replace with the sahara slicers

[delicate wagon]

I used to use Ark of ancients on plantera

But uh they removed the broken sword from calclone

Ig true Excalibur works for base cal plantera and calclone

[gloomy wedge]

subshocker is prob top 5 funniest weapons in the game

[neon stag]

Works for infernum too, just gets a slower killtime than inferna cutter

[gloomy wedge]

up there with like, dragon rage

and phaseslayer

[neon stag]

defo up there for sure, not sure about top 5 funniest out of every weapon tho

[delicate wagon]

Yeah inferna cutter is really strong too

[delicate wagon]

Yeah that axe breaks destroyer

[gloomy wedge]

at some point if youre comparing a 20s killtime to a 30s killtime does it even matter

[delicate wagon]

True

[neon stag]

-# iirc subshocker slagsplitter clears inferna cutter too

[tidal oriole]

does anyone know how to fix this?

[delicate wagon]

Yeah but atp it’s just boring to use the same set that breaks everything in 30 secs

I don’t think a weapon should be so strong it outclasses everything

[gloomy wedge]

yeah tmelee has horrible design rn

i think most tmelee fans know this

[neon stag]

Meh, the question this all rooted from was what is the best not what is the most fun to use

[delicate wagon]

True

[delicate wagon]

Yeah

[neon stag]

If you ask me, I think The Axe is the most fun to use against plantera

[delicate wagon]

Why is inferna cutter even considered true melee though

[neon stag]

I did that once, was actually very fun

[delicate wagon]

But it’s a drop from plantera

[neon stag]

Yeah

Glorious end is actually very fun to use aswell

[gloomy wedge]

hellborn is most fun

[neon stag]

although it kinda falls into the category of just cheesing

[gloomy wedge]

there is nothing more satisfying than repeatedly pistolwhipping your boss of choice to death

[delicate wagon]

Same for subshocker?

[neon stag]

Yes

[delicate wagon]

Yeah ig it’s just I don’t like cheesing

I only cheese infernum destroyer cus it’s a pain

[neon stag]

-# hes so easy tho

[delicate wagon]

It’s always the mech boss I struggle the most

[high mason]

can you play infernum with thorium

[gloomy wedge]

with ragnarok yes

[high mason]

kk

[wild narwhal]

infernum yharon 21 atts am i cooked?

[high mason]

does ebonian work with infernum and calamity in general

[wild narwhal]

we tanking 🥹 ✌️

[smoky dock]

brother

that’s only one hit every ten or so seconds

You gotta bump those numbers up those’re rookie numbers

Bet you ain’t even use Fearmonger armor

[high mason]

are you even playing summoner

[wild narwhal]

i used this

silva wings tho

not yharon ones

[smoky dock]

yooooo

you could bump it up with Sponge

[ebon light]

Old yharon wings sprite was better ngl

[high mason]

💔

[fading dove]

dude it was recoloured solar wings

you can just use bright silver dye on solar wings if you want it back

[ebon light]

This is not good either

[fading dove]

wings of rebirth are based on yharon's new design

being a bit more resplendent than he is right now

[ebon light]

And also I remember when it was yharon the jungle dragon or something not phoenix

[fading dove]

so close!

he's both

[ebon light]

The name of it

[wild narwhal]

WTH ARE INFERNUM EXO MECHS ABOUT 😭

[ebon light]

Idk

[nimble wing]

Just a little

[limber cape]

what where the mods to add the thorium bard class to calamity? I want to do another run of terraria and I would like doing the thorium + calamity run with the bard class

[paper cliff]

I cant believe wrath of the gods only 2 bosses are easier than infernum calamitas

[limber cape]

i mean
theres also mars

[nimble wing]

WotG is supposed to just be hard enough that you have to turn your brain on

[paper cliff]

oh right I forgot about him

[nimble wing]

Post-ML is the oldest part of Infernum (on average), at which time the mod’s philosophy was mostly just “Make things Really Really Hard”

[smoky dock]

WotG is more interested in making a super cool and awesome fight

It doesn’t really care for making a super ultra hard fight

[paper cliff]

the fights are fun and the gimmik with mars although short is fun too

[maiden cobalt]

the fights arent shit pisser difficulty

they're amazing

all of them are very very well telegraphed or just flat out tell you what to do

[paper cliff]

I got lucky and ended up skiping the beam deity throws at you by just using rogue absurd damage

[limber cape]

um

[unkempt stream]

I wish there was a version of WotG that didn't have solyn in it icl

[limber cape]

I saw a guy beat nameless first try on the day of release lol

[unkempt stream]

I cant take the AoE fight seriously

[maiden cobalt]

i shredded him wit da tainted legendary iridescent excaliber

it took me 5 attempts for all of wotg

[smoky dock]

nameless deity is considerably harder on gfb

[maiden cobalt]

it took me like 93 for scal

[smoky dock]

give that a try if you want a harder fight

really made me sweat ngl

[nimble wing]

If it helps you at all, in WotG2 we’re going to update some of Avatar so you have to cooperate with Solyn more actively

Solyn was essentially designed backwards into Avatar 1

[unkempt stream]

That's the opposite of what I want 😭

[smoky dock]

Hell yeah

[nimble wing]

She’s also gonna be heavily rewritten because her current writing is… eh

[smoky dock]

Hell yeah

Will you have Fargo’s Mutant Mod compatibility so she can be caught in a bug net

[unkempt stream]

ok ok this could be good

wait wasn't there something about wotg being seperated from cal

[maiden cobalt]

are you a dev of wotg?

[maiden cobalt]

this is true; their moral standpoint is correct-ish but the execution is kinda poor (why would she "crash" here after skeletron of all things, why not once we showed actual prowess and ability that could draw the attention of God)

[elder nebula]

tester

[maiden cobalt]

oh hell yea

[nimble wing]

I’d say killing Skeletron is definitely showing actual prowess and ability

[maiden cobalt]

perspective i'd suppose?

personally if i wanted glory i'd crashland after plantera

[nimble wing]

May I remind you that she crashes down to Terraria because she failed her test

[maiden cobalt]

ohh is that so

[nimble wing]

She didn’t have any say in the timing

[maiden cobalt]

i misread her garden dialogue then

[nimble wing]

It’s literally the first thing she ever says?

[maiden cobalt]

i thought it was a misunderstanding on her part

her garden dialogue implies she wanted to be considered deity's champion out of selfishness

at least one of them do

i thought her saying "i failed" was her considering herself to have failed to do it, and finding the terrarian both a good way to do this and also just a kind person overall

"kind" terrarianisyou whatever the general theory

reading her dialogue rn to make sure i dont misunderstand her here

she's really one of my favorite characters in any terraria mod ever since the mod goes out of its way to make her actually like

live.

as a person.

outside of that one time but shhh.

[nimble wing]

It’s easy for a mod character to be someone’s favorite because there are almost no developed mod characters anyway

[maiden cobalt]

i mean there were a few

i liked the janitor from MoR

the whole lab was really good in my opinion

i liked the robot guy from the same

[nimble wing]

Oh yeah, Redemption alone is like half of the developed characters

[maiden cobalt]

troll

redemption being good at writing stories

whats next, calamity being good at. hm

uuhhh.

improving

thats it

like this is so uber specific

it helps so much to give them like

personality beyond "i give help!" or "i like trees!"

heeeres the phrase

this is the one i interpreted as "somehow tried to be champion of (deity blessing), but fibbed in some major way without entirely knowing why (until a bit after)"

[nimble wing]

why I was initially rejected

[maiden cobalt]

the rejection part could be said from post-AoE mindset

the phrasing alludes to your belief where they failed a test and weren't worthy, but if that was so, why didnt we get sent back to the world after we lose to ND (outside of gameplay)

we woulda been considered "unworthy" by that logic

[nimble wing]

Because gameplay

[maiden cobalt]

okay well outside of that .

[nimble wing]

You don’t canonically die

[maiden cobalt]

with AoE time just shatters backwards and you just dont die

i always remembered ND being similar

[nimble wing]

Avatar’s death animation actually exists to cover up world visuals getting set back to normal

[maiden cobalt]

oh thats funny

does ND's also exist for that or

[nimble wing]

No

[maiden cobalt]

funny

[nimble wing]

Avatar doesn’t put you in a subworld or such, he manually disables a morbillion tile drawing and interaction systems

[maiden cobalt]

yea i remember seeing that

when i went in the ceaseless portal the lava didnt properly unrender

[nimble wing]

That way you don’t need to go through subworld load time

[maiden cobalt]

so it was still there, it just didnt hurt me

[nimble wing]

https://discord.gg/SWeTNNKwzw
#1293123291099304036 message

Hop on

[maiden cobalt]

hell yes

[tender gust]

how to kil astrelagojn slime

[maiden cobalt]

oh they literally fixed that bug

that quite literally was the bug i had and they fixed it

awesome

[nimble wing]

Do not use any offensive gear at all

[maiden cobalt]

go entirely tank

go nothing but tank

you are going to take a normally 450 damage hit and reduce it to 120

get wings on tier and just fully spec into defense

warding

[tender gust]

how are we gonna deal damage to him

[maiden cobalt]

you do enough damage

[tender gust]

why does he now spawn in his second phase

evebn tho i died the first time he transformed

[neon stag]

The fight is locked behind a timewall and must last a minimum of 3 minutes 30 seconds, so going full tank is fine

[maiden cobalt]

astralgeldon is quite easy to dodge once you know what you're doing, but misstepping will just obliterate you

[neon stag]

full tank is fine.

[maiden cobalt]

if you drop them to second phase, they spawn in it

[nimble wing]

It is physically impossible to kill Geldon faster than 3:30

[tender gust]

so that makes things a bit easier then

[maiden cobalt]

indeed

[tender gust]

does he drop anything good

[nimble wing]

Geldon rewards are balanced to post-Provi

[tender gust]

am i supposed to take on this guy before moon lord

[maiden cobalt]

you are required

[tender gust]

wdym

[nimble wing]

The summon breaks if ML is dead

[tender gust]

so they're good until post providence?

[nimble wing]

You can fix that with an addon though

[tender gust]

y

[maiden cobalt]

geldon requires:

• pre ml
• 3:30 mkl
• skill

[nimble wing]

I mean literally breaks

Intentionally

[tender gust]

i know but why

[maiden cobalt]

it stops working entirely

[nimble wing]

You can’t use it

[tender gust]

soi they want me to kill him pre moon lord

[maiden cobalt]

yes

[tender gust]

will killing him yield me great benefits

[maiden cobalt]

indeed

[tender gust]

will it make moon lord easy

[maiden cobalt]

astragel armor is busted

[nimble wing]

They’re as strong as uelibloom gear and such

[tender gust]

jeez

is that not game breaking

[maiden cobalt]

its the prize for the challenge

[nimble wing]

If you nohit Geldon it drops a typeless weapon that’s optimal as far as DoG

[tender gust]

im playing with a friend

so it'll be easier

[maiden cobalt]

eeeh.

your dps will be doubled, but you may get bullshitted more often

[tender gust]

yeah but i can respawn

[nimble wing]

Yes, it absolutely is

[tender gust]

will that not make the game unfun

[nimble wing]

Catalyst design philosophy is stupid ((imo))

[tender gust]

so should i try and kill him or not

[maiden cobalt]

yea

[nimble wing]

There’s a mod called Catalyst Anti-Tier Lock that disables the summon breaking itself

[maiden cobalt]

troll

[nimble wing]

You could get that and fight it after Provi or something

Or just fight it on tier and don’t use the rewards yet

[tender gust]

im jsut gonna fight him and probs not use the armour or smth

[maiden cobalt]

i mean

tahts kinda the reason you'd fight em

but sure !

play how you want

[tender gust]

i wanna kill him now cuz i cant later

[nimble wing]

The armor is a lag machine anyway

[nimble wing]

I respect you for being concerned about it

[tender gust]

what's the best mage weapon against him

cuz we cant do miuch damage at all

[nimble wing]

Doesn’t matter

[neon stag]

-# gend

Anything homing really

[tender gust]

idek of any mage homing weapons

[neon stag]

@cobalt pier sorry for ping but this is your expertise right

[gloomy wedge]

trying out some vanities

[cobalt pier]

What prog

[tender gust]

pre moon lord

[cobalt pier]

Nebula blaze, razorblade typhoon

[tender gust]

thank you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxdSinaSRzI is this guide good

it's telling me to reforge all my stuff to lucky

[jolly quiver]

does anyone know if calmity overhaul has quest iteams like mursama and halibut cannor for summoner class

[tender gust]

dont use cal overhaul

[jolly quiver]

why

[tender gust]

malware

[jolly quiver]

wydm how can it be from tmod loader

[cobalt pier]

It's a virus by definition

[cobalt pier]

There's malware on steam

I don't see your point

You can get malware from anything you download

[bold sigil]

How are we supposed to obtain Yharon Soul Fragments with the Ragnarok + Thorium expansions added in addition to Calamity? Appearantly Yharon didn't drop them.

[nimble wing]

It intentionally corrupts whatever files were using it if you disable it

(Characters and worlds)

[bold sigil]

Wait are you being for real about that? We had C. Overhaul active for a day or two when we set up our server just 2 weeks ago

We removed it because I was trying to figure out what kept hanging the boss progression - which didn't turn out to be c overhaul.

[jolly quiver]

wait so it can only virus my terria not my computer?

[bold sigil]

Trying to understand what you (and @cobalt pier ) mean with this, whether it's just a bad mod or if it's genuinely harmful to your game/pc.

@jolly quiver yeah I'm not sure either but that wording makes it sound a lot more critical to figure out what's being meant here.

[boreal flame]

is calamity overhaul a virus or malware to the pc or just charachters and worls

i cant find legit anywhere on internet people saying its harmful in anyway

[bold sigil]

That's what I'm trying to figure out too

[elder nebula]

it fits the definition of malware (malicious software) as it corrupts your character file on purpose when you disable it

[boreal flame]

bro where u find this infromation

[elder nebula]

several dozens of people talking about it

and sharing their experiences

and the mod creators saying they intentionally left that bug in

[boreal flame]

give me 1 source of this

[bold sigil]

That's not what we're asking though. Is it genuinely harming your game and/or pc or is it just a sloppy mod with bad legacy issues?????

Like, these are two completely different things how to adress/fix, you know.

[elder nebula]

idk i think corrupting your character file is pretty harmful

[bold sigil]

Can you just answer my question?

[elder nebula]

i did

i told you how it's malware

[bold sigil]

No you're just stretching what you define as malware, I'm asking if it's something that's on the equivalent of "run a security check over your PC" or not.

[elder nebula]

to my knowledge, it only affects the files of the character and possibly world you used when you have it enabled

but it's still software that is malicious

[boreal flame]

arlight

so give me 1 souchrce

[elder nebula]

hence, malware

[elder nebula]

search this channel for like 10 seconds

[bold sigil]

I'll take that as the prior then, just a sloppy mod creating legacy issues.

[elder nebula]

it was originally a bug but the creators intentionally didn't fix it

[bold sigil]

Suffice to say we had no issues with removing it 🤷

[elder nebula]

that's good

[bold sigil]

Yes it created a lot of missing sprites/id's, but that's pretty normal when you remove a mod.

(Only notable issues is that it left us with a SHPC way earlier than we should've, but oh well, Normal Mode already was just repetition at this point)

Anyway I did have one other issue currently of my own; We're coming to the discovery that Yharon isn't dropping Yharon Soul Fragments.

We have Ragnarok installed for compatibility with Thorium, but I cannot find any other experience or mention yet that Ragnarok may be causing this issue (yet).

(I say 'yet' since Ragnarok also caused Glacial Fangs from the Ice Strider not to spawn in NM either...)

Ragnarok also doesn't seem to mention any changes to how it's obtained either

[boreal flame]

nothing happend wrong when u deleted it?

[bold sigil]

Outside of blocks missing their ID's from a removed mod, nope.

My SHPC properly converted from a CO to C:vanilla one.

[abstract oasis]

There's a mod that's making all swords not appear when they swing. They're not just invisible, they do no damage either. What could it be?

[nimble wing]

Show modlist

[abstract oasis]

Okay I think it was the weapon visual effects mod, it works now

[onyx igloo]

I assume this is talking about overhaul

Because yeah it's malware

calamity overhaul is worse than epstein

[nimble wing]

Could you rethink that for a second

[onyx igloo]

Calamity overhaul worse than Epstein and his friends

That's better

[nimble wing]

[onyx igloo]

It's also accurate

Calamity Overhaul is by far the worst thing ever created by mankind, it's worse than the concept of extra dimensional entities with superpowers

[unkempt stream]

Calamity Overhaul worse than Fovos

I might have to make that image

[onyx igloo]

Calamity Overhaul is worse than plain pancakes

Calamity Overhaul is worse than inflation

[nimble wing]

EXCUSE you, I don’t think you’ve ever had a home-milled pancake before

Home-milled red or einkorn pancakes are so good that I can eat them as a handheld snack

[onyx igloo]

yeah I haven't, also pancakes exclusively make me throw up for no explicit reason and nobody biologically knows why

[nimble wing]

Oh, huh

[onyx igloo]

I haven't the slightest clue

Like at all

[nimble wing]

It’s not a sensitivity to gluten or animal fat or such?

[onyx igloo]

Doctors don't either since I'm not allergic to the batter or anything

[onyx igloo]

Dunno but I usually just eat things without question if it smells edible and doesn't look gross

I'm not allergic or told that I'm allergic or sensitive to anything

Because I can eat waffles fine as well

But EXCLUSIVELY pancakes

could just be my mom who cooks her pancakes like a disc of obsidian

[misty dagger]

is there a proper/popular c addon fore summoner for whips?

[frank mauve]

catalyst

[misty dagger]

thats better for summoner over unofficial calamity whips?

for whips

[frank mauve]

yep

[misty dagger]

TY

[misty dagger]

but the only top whip is blossom and ik theirs more room

[smoky dock]

Catalyst adds some of the whips from UCW, only with more balance involved

Summoner is already the strongest class in the game right now by far because whips are so strong

UCW adds whips that're stronger than in vanilla

Catalyst's whips are weaker than those in vanilla

[misty dagger]

fair enough

[smoky dock]

Catalyst's whips are much more in line with the rest of the classes in terms of balance, and are more in line with what whips will be when the great summoner rebalance comes in 2071

[misty dagger]

its gonna feel weird tho at the fact that i the player is gonna be behind my summons

ik its my choice in the end but

i say that cuz shouldnt the summoner be equal (interms of point of the game) be equal with their summons?

[smoky dock]

I mean, kinda

In vanilla the best whip in the game is Kaleidoscope, which is only post-Golem-ish

[rare crest]

are chlorophyte bullets nerfed or somethinbg

[smoky dock]

There are summons that're available later though

[smoky dock]

they've always been awful

[rare crest]

true but they feel so booty noq

now

[smoky dock]

They have a base damage of 8 iirc, which is the same as the Musket Ball

Nothing's different

[twilit flint]

in calamity entropy, whats the best pre WoF melee weapon?

[rare crest]

what bullets do u think i should use for cal clone ?

[twilit flint]

im still new to the mod

[smoky dock]

I'm not sure, I don't like that class

[rare crest]

gelktic blade

geltic*

[twilit flint]

oh right

[smoky dock]

I think the strongest ammunition is uhhh

Venom rounds?

[viral oxide]

I duno if I should play Infernum
On one hand it's dying soon on the other I haven't even played Death yet

[rare crest]

post plantera.

what ammo shreds plantera ?

[smoky dock]

It'll be around for a long time

[smoky dock]

Experiment with different ammunition types to see what works best

[viral oxide]

Not on current patch at least

[smoky dock]

Hallow-point, Chlorophyte, Cursed, Ichor, and probably other rounds will perform best depending on weapon

[onyx igloo]

Dont you dare spout that chlorophyte nonsense

[rare crest]

flash rounds r good too

[misty dagger]

fair

[viral oxide]

Is Infernum really difficult or just slightly harder?

[smoky dock]

Infernum is pretty rough

It's best to play Death mode so you at least understand what does and doesn't work on a very basic level

[onyx igloo]

Comparably to death Master it's easier pre ml but harder post ml

It's got a lot of organized boss fights though, extremely predictable

[viral oxide]

like build-wise?

[onyx igloo]

I find infernum easy aside from the existence of it's exo mechs

[smoky dock]

Yes, and strategy-wise

Don't do mDeath kekkers

[viral oxide]

I'm insane so I'll be running glass cannon no matter what

[viral oxide]

I know

from experience

[onyx igloo]

I guess you'll love gem tech armor

[viral oxide]

Never used it, but it looks cool

[onyx igloo]

Basically destroying all tank from auric for DPS armor for post Exos

[viral oxide]

My first playthrough I did SCal first because no Exo weapon drops and bugged Vivid Clarity

[smoky dock]

👎

[smoky dock]

It's not a glass cannon set

[onyx igloo]

Does catalyst add shortswords and if so what shortswords

[smoky dock]

It's a glass cannon set if you use it wrong

[viral oxide]

I beat Expert Rev SCal after 80 tries okay I can do this

[onyx igloo]

80 is only 300 less than my mutant on masoftw

that's not half bad

But then again rev mode is a joke

[viral oxide]

At least it's not my Radiant AbsRad attempt count

[viral oxide]

I did a challenge run after on it

It was easy

SCal and Exos second try

[onyx igloo]

I haven't played rev mode once, my first modded run was infernum

[viral oxide]

ofc I used an actual good build that time

[viral oxide]

Using Ark of the Cosmos on DoG took sub-20 which is really sad honestly

[onyx igloo]

huh

Post Yharon weapon pre yharon?

[viral oxide]

Elements

dangit

Ark of the Elements

[onyx igloo]

oh

yeah I did ark of the cosmos components only on infernum

dog is a joke on infernum

The only boss that is easier than infernum dog is daytime providence

[viral oxide]

Should've done death in hindsight but oh well
Anyway that's vanilla and this is an addon channel so I think that's enough of that run

Not like it was interesting to talk about save for dying to Yharon but still killing him

[frank mauve]

cv

[indigo patio]

I finally finished melee. What class should I play next
It's the infernal eclipse of Ragnarok modpack.
The only 2 I don't want to do is melee again and healer.

[frank mauve]

mage

[rare crest]

whats the item called

that clears the area around golem arena

[smoky dock]

Is it the uh

Lihzahrd Actuation Bomb?

wait what’re you even doing down there >:(

[rare crest]

fight

orange man

also whats the best reforge for ranger

lucky ?

[spice pike]

Should I play Fargos dlc on the constant seed?

[smoky dock]

warding

like

always

[smoky dock]

you can if you want to

[spice pike]

I don’t think it does anything crazy does it?

[smoky dock]

There's a comprehensive list of changes on the Terraria wiki

[frank mauve]

doesnt it add damage in the dark and hunger

[spice pike]

Yeah, just make sure not Fargos addition make it unplayable.

[frank bluff]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[unkempt stream]

based mage

[verbal viper]

Hey quick question so I usually use a guide to help me progress but I just got infernum... does infernum like add a buttload of content for each class?

Or could I use the same non infernum guides ive been using

[frank mauve]

i dont think it does yeah

[unkempt stream]

no it barely adds anything, primarily only reworks stuff

[frank mauve]

yeah u can use a normal one except check the wiki inf for the extra drops, also sand shark is post cultist and primordial wyrm is post yharon now

[unkempt stream]

I fluked infernum providence so hard, it should have taken me a lot more attempts than it did

[fading dove]

makes mage the best class post yharon through eye of madness and illusioner's reverie, adds a kscope alternative preml, makes it more obvious that sstn sucks uber ass, and overall makes tmelee better due to more aggressive bosses

[cedar hollow]

what does the faint ethereal click mean

[fading dove]

astral chest

[cedar hollow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1293999168582582334/1350684836502831144/togif.gif?width=895&height=968

[frank mauve]

great u killed the mood

i was so hyped

[fading dove]

proof:

[frank bluff]

i expected providence took me more attempts than guards

imo 2nd wall is finished

except sentinels are also hard

if not

[frank mauve]

yeah prov easier than guards funnily enough

[frank bluff]

then final wall is just final 4

[cedar hollow]

i dont need proof

i was gonna say who unlocks that chest

[fading dove]

oh yeah im pretty sure elemental ray is quite a bit better than slopular fury on prov

i can test tomorrow

too tired rn

[frank bluff]

also my least fav attack on providence is just

the beam one

[fading dove]

which one

[frank bluff]

2nd phase beam

[unkempt stream]

guards are lowkey one of the hardest bosses in the game lol

[frank bluff]

i forgot the name

[fading dove]

dogma or the one directly after that you don't see very often

[maiden fjord]

ture

[frank bluff]

imma be real i fluked guards

it took me 23 attempts

ngl it should've took me 50

or more

[fading dove]

i describe the second one like that because every good weapon on tier kills her too fast

[maiden fjord]

but I'm enjoying shredding those profaned nuggets with gilded proboscis

[fading dove]

stuff like proboscis and summon slurry

[unkempt stream]

I genuinely almost quit the game because of those fuckass chicken nuggets

[fading dove]

you can get a pretty consistent 2:30 on inf prov with summoner because whips

[frank mauve]

cant u get that with blunder booster aswell

[fading dove]

idk

ive not used blunder booster ever so i dont know how much damage it does

[frank mauve]

it does lots of damage

[pastel ruin]

yo why wont magic storage work

[frank mauve]

its so good when u spam it with a hook

[frank bluff]

like

[frank mauve]

like wha

[frank bluff]

#calamity-addon-talk message*

@frank mauve

[frank bluff]

@unkempt stream

[unkempt stream]

mmhm?

[frank bluff]

that's my clip of

fluking guards

[unkempt stream]

omg that spear projectile attack gives me ptsd

[frank bluff]

4hp gameplay

[unkempt stream]

yeah you lost most of your health to the one attack I hate in particular

[frank bluff]

i should make that as my banner

my discord crashed 🔥

[unkempt stream]

also good luck with ceaceless

prolly the boss with the biggest glow up

[frank bluff]

eh i might do storm first

[round sphinx]

Anyone else find it a little unfair that during the second phase, Ares can just decide to do its spinning beam attack while inside the ground, making it impossible to dodge?

[fading dove]

isnt ares pretty locked above you

[twilit flint]

Is there an add on that adds Yharim as a boss?

[fading dove]

no

[twilit flint]

k

[unkempt stream]

I think fargos april fools does actually

[fading dove]

i dont think that yharim sends out 6 tiny little scals as part of his offensive plan

[unkempt stream]

well he sends out one

[twilit flint]

Well we can always wait 30 years for him to be added to Calamity

[unkempt stream]

my genuine bet is 2033

hopefully society will still be intact

[merry harness]

is coral crusher better than snapthorn?

[elder nebula]

no

"is x catalyst whip better than x vanilla whi-"
no

[clear breach]

I think

[elder nebula]

you are

[clear breach]

What

Have yall played wrath of gods

Because if you have then explain why the avatar gets easier every phase

[frank mauve]

nope never played wotg sorry

[verbal viper]

Ah alr tysm :D

[frank mauve]

u should check the weapons and boss summons theyre really useful

https://infernummod.wiki.gg

[dull stratus]

I'm playing eclipse of Ragnarok. I just cleared destroyer, so what's a good rouge weapon I can use?

[elder nebula]

kelvin catalyst

[dull stratus]

Thxxx

[amber elk]

whats the best mage weapon for exo mechs pre scal

[frank bluff]

first tried storm weaver

and i forgot grav normalizer

[buoyant parcel]

Dude a mod called Calamities Vanities (which is supposed to add nothing but vanity items) gave me a "Polterhook" from killing polterghast

it's like

OP

like LEAGUES better than my Bat Hook

idk if I should use it

[steep cobalt]

yeah sure

[fading dove]

worse than bobbit hook

also bat hook is worse than lunar hook

[amber elk]

whats the best mage weapon for primordial wyrm

(adult)

[fading dove]

phoenix flame barrage is specifically obscene during the ascension attack

[amber elk]

alr

[smoky dock]

Vanites' hooks are ungodly broken for some fucking reason

Like woke lesbian jesus mentioned though it's worse than the bobbit hook though

but that's an exception and not the rule. typically vanites' hooks are busted as shit

[fading dove]

the ares hook is arguably better than bobbit

significantly longer ranger with a similar pull in speed

but also gives 3 seconds of chaos state that only ticks down when you aren't hooked in with it

and can't be shot out if you have chaos state

[amber elk]

how do i survive the primordial wyrm attack where he spams lasers

[fading dove]

don't run

stay within the coil

[amber elk]

ohhhh

[frank bluff]

signus

is just STRAIGHT UP UNENJOYABLE

[amber elk]

true

why do like no damage to the wrath of the machines exo mechs

good enough build for pre scal exo mechs?

do i do rampart of the dieties for purity and radiance for cherished?

[frank bluff]

how do you even get depth cells and lumenyl on infernum

[elder nebula]

same as normal

[frank bluff]

i didn't get any

guh

i forgot leviathan and anahita

[amber elk]

god im gonna crash out