calamity-addon-talk

[maiden cobalt]

dont have deific

because yhou're gonna get onetapped

uhhh

absorber. i suppose.

yea

absorber

you really shouldnt have a problem with like

damage taken

if you can time your ramdashes

[amber elk]

uhh

also

theres an acc from bereft vassal

that survives two hits

[maiden cobalt]

if you wanna use it, you can try it and see

the issue is that DoG demands you learn the timing or perish

you're looking for these

once you see that, you should start your dash

keep flying horizontally

[amber elk]

that appears after i ram dash tho

[maiden cobalt]

you're dashing too early then

[amber elk]

horizontally upwards

[amber elk]

i dont take damage tho still

[maiden cobalt]

ah well then its good

[maiden cobalt]

straight fly

like gd

[amber elk]

k

also is there any way to deactivate the space effect\

[frank mauve]

vitriolic viper and fate reveal are the best

[frank mauve]

gravity normalizer potion

[amber elk]

im not doing old duke so fate reveal

[amber elk]

how do i get

[frank mauve]

craft

its like the astral thingy

oh aureus cell

[amber elk]

broooooo

[amber elk]

these literally show up later

best attempt 50%

[neon stag]

Deific amulet for dog is insane

Why are we trolling

[neon stag]

Absorber for dog is straight devils work, why are we griefin 😭

[maiden cobalt]

i remember melee tanking at least one hit

[neon stag]

You can tank multiple hits, deific is still ass

[amber elk]

what do i put then

what do i use ten

[neon stag]

Elysian wings elysian aegis flesh totem amal. brain sigil of calamitas destroyer emblem and any preferred mobility/offensive/defensive

if you really want to use something like the affliction, just use the community its better for infernum dog, although its not something I would recommend

[amber elk]

cherished sea locket?

[maiden cobalt]

devils work is funny tbh !!!

[neon stag]

Its fine, but has some slight anti synergies with the rest of the build

[neon stag]

Its honestly hard to decide what to use, if you like the affliction use it

[dusky blaze]

hey guys, can you help me with calamity entropy weapon?

[amber elk]

whats the affliction

[neon stag]

Youre not missing anything crucial afaik and you dont really have anything good left to use

[amber elk]

anti synergies?

[neon stag]

The little skull looking thing dropped from polter

[dusky blaze]

i managed to get this weapon in pre hardmode and i killed slime god twice, but it doesnt change at all, what do i do?

[amber elk]

oh

i always get dog to like 60%

[neon stag]

Maybe slime god doesnt affect the bar

[amber elk]

my best attempt was 50%

[neon stag]

dog is hard, I would suggest watching a dog no-hit to see if it helps at all

[amber elk]

doesnt really

i still dont have anyway to dodge the laser bullet hell

[neon stag]

I like stripping down naked and standing on a platform

[amber elk]

6% DUKE IM GONNA CRY

[dusky blaze]

Well it says here to defeat slime god
(Mispronounced btw)

[neon stag]

If you have to move just jump up, if dont just stay still

[dusky blaze]

Unless there is something like slimg god and i dont know it

[neon stag]

Might be a boss checklist issue

Could always just leave and rejoin to see if its just a visual bug

[dusky blaze]

Oke

not sure if it worked, it still says locked

[amber elk]

old duke done

[amber elk]

is old dukes scale good

[dusky blaze]

lol
it isnt on the calamity entropy wiki

[neon stag]

Nah

[onyx igloo]

Very Situational

[amber elk]

vitriolic viper or fates reveal

[onyx igloo]

whar

For dog?

[amber elk]

yeh

[neon stag]

Theyre similar enough to a point where you should just use whichever feels more comfortable

[dusky blaze]

lol
@neon stag i think i gotta be careful with that weapon
beacuse i already killed angler and goblin tinkerer by accident lol

[neon stag]

I think (?) vitriolic is better when ramming

[onyx igloo]

Ghastly Visage if you wanna use a boss drop

But there are better options, Ghastly Visage is just one of my favorites from other mage weapons only

[amber elk]

yeah the damage is insane

also should i coil

[neon stag]

You could coil p1, but for p2 just ramming will be easier

[fiery mango]

Phase 1 can be coiled if u want

Yea what Mies said

[quartz merlin]

I see that this has been discussed a bunch, but the answers are always a little vague - what specifically is broken if you have infernum mod installed, but are on regular difficulty? i keep seeing that it "breaks the abyss" but i'm not sure what that means? Is there anything that prevents us from switching on the difficulty mode for anything that doesn't work while on normal?

[fiery mango]

Phase 2 its not worth the coiling

[neon stag]

Coiling p2 is pretty precise to execute, defo harder than just killing normally

[amber elk]

it changes the abyss entirely

like a overhaul

[onyx igloo]

Speaking of
Never use it

[remote marten]

abyss worldgen is different with infernum so if u have a normal world and turn infernum on the abyss would be wierd and same with the other way around

[amber elk]

use what

[onyx igloo]

Calamity Overhaul is worse than chomp thing

And chomp thing is worse than Epstein

[fiery mango]

..Ok

[quartz merlin]

So we (my kids and I) have a world that was generated with infernum, so we have the cooler abyss, but we're playing with the difficulty on normal. will it work fine if we turn on infernum difficulty for the abyss specifically?

[onyx igloo]

this face shape reminds me of xqc

[onyx igloo]

You'll have to use infernum for it

[remote marten]

if the world was generated in infernum ur gonna want to keep infernum on

[onyx igloo]

Infernum abyss breaks without infernum

[neon stag]

Yes

[onyx igloo]

Base Cal abyss breaks without revengeance or death mode, so they're pretty restrictive

[amber elk]

coiling dog is pretty fun

[neon stag]

You might also have to turn on infernum for guardians and providence, im not completely sure.

[neon stag]

true

[fiery mango]

Person who has never heard of Jerma ^^^

[onyx igloo]

you're right

[remote marten]

also the desert subworld thing wont work if u dont have infernum on

[onyx igloo]

I only watch terraria qnd pvz content from like a few people

[onyx igloo]

Im also pretty sure it doesn't work with multiplayer as well

[remote marten]

other player(s) will get stuck in loading yea

[amber elk]

new rec 34%

[dawn rose]

YESSSSS AFTER 350 ATTEMPTS

[amber elk]

he is dead

[dawn rose]

god im free

[amber elk]

i was faster btw

just forgor to ms

[dawn rose]

summoner on DoG is pain

mutated truffle carried

holy

[dusky blaze]

can you guys explain to me how does this weapon work tbh?

beacuse i keep randomly dashing and idk how

lol

calamity entropy just got an update?

[frank mauve]

where do we look

[onyx igloo]

I can't understand 100+ attempts on dog even for new players, old duke, polter, guardians, and Yharon I can understand though

[dense eagle]

everyone tries ram dashing him instantly

instead of trying anything else

they try to copy the same strategy but it isnt easy for everyone

[onyx igloo]

I guess that makes some kind of sense

[dense eagle]

i had ~30 attempts on him with my melee speed build and the electric trident

but when i tried the ram, i had almost 200 xd

[neon stag]

Myrindael?

[dense eagle]

the one which you can dash with

from infernum boss

[neon stag]

Thats myrindael.

[dense eagle]

i dont have good memory for cal weapons

[onyx igloo]

I'm gonna do permanent blood moon with reworked master mode bosses and enemy attack predictions, if its not hard enough I'll add some stat changes

Calamity was getting stale, and I'm training for my CEG training arc

[dense eagle]

you can always make the game twice as fast with fargos hyper mod

[onyx igloo]

I'm also doing that

Forgot to mention

The only content mod I have is consolaria

So I can play the old days once again

I have fought ocram once and that was when my twin sister helped me not be terrified of the caves

[nimble wing]

@remote marten this is a steam cloud problem! subworlds work fine in multiplayer by default if everyone disables it

[neon stag]

bro think he dizzy

[onyx igloo]

Actually I might prohibit the use of calming cry as well

Since that defeats the purpose of blood moons

[frank mauve]

summoner sucks wth

[dense eagle]

17mins????

sentries only?

[frank mauve]

i heard someone say vile feeder was good 🤔

[smoky dock]

sentries only would beat SCal way fucking faster

[smoky dock]

are you using armor pen

[frank mauve]

maybe i should

[smoky dock]

you should

[neon stag]

Sentries only would be wayy faster lol

[civic seal]

having issues with infernum. anybody know whats going on?

(also not really sure where i should be asking)

[dense eagle]

uninstall and install the mod

tmod sometimes just dont update the mods

[fading dove]

or verify file integrity

doing so force updates all mods

[small hatch]

So I was playing calamity overhaul and after I killed the providence with the pallbearer, I accidentally rejected supreme calamitasts quest for the heartcarver. Is there anyone who knows if there is a way to re open it so I can accept it? (Yes I looked through the pins I saw nothing)

[onyx barn]

I beat nameless deity and then my game crashed. Is that normal or do i have to beat him again?

[fiery mango]

…no im not gonna bother answerin

[small hatch]

Alright!

[steep cobalt]

gustavo fring

[umbral crest]

Is this build good for Goliath?

[small hatch]

Could you please tell me what mod that scythe is from? I’m planning on playing a rouge play through and having that would be great.

[dusky blaze]

calamity enthropy, hard to get it in pre hardmode tho

[small hatch]

Alright tysm

[dusky blaze]

if you get it please tell me if it works for you

with slaying king slime and so on

[small hatch]

Alright I will

[acoustic lava]

AAA

Colored damage

Type

Is useless as fuck or I'm blind?

[onyx barn]

After I won a item of Nameless Deity told me to download Dragon lens mod. Why and what do i need it for?

[fiery mango]

Its just a cheat mod lol

Its a joke

[onyx barn]

Ohh

[small hatch]

I went into my current world that I have some progress on and for me it’s lvl 4

[fiery mango]

Entropy

Lmao

[solemn ice]

guys how does one learn how to do that horizontal dash thing on dog

i cant get the muscle memory down because it always seems to go vertical instead

[dusky blaze]

hmm

[dusky blaze]

?

[small hatch]

Oh yeah also how the heck do you get void stone in pre hard mode

[fast stirrup]

btw wiki says solyn will spawn in after either skeletron or wall of flesh is downed

what determines which boss defeat spawns her?

[fiery mango]

What the mod feels like functioning

[fast stirrup]

i see

though i want her to pull over after skeletron is done with

do i just hop on dragonlens and force her over?

[fiery mango]

That’s what is supposed to happen

Emphasis on supposed to

[fast stirrup]

do i wait a little while longer? or...

[fiery mango]

I can’t help much with Solyn stuff she just fucking sucks

Cheat her in if you can

[fast stirrup]

you take the last 4 words back

[dusky narwhal]

hey small question, does anyone have any idea why the wrath of the machines (standalone version of the eternity mode fight) exo mechs randomly spawn in on the 3rd phase? like, i chose one, and all 3 come out at the same time

[fiery mango]

Bad programming

It’s a bug

[dense eagle]

if you choose specific one

idk which

it bugs out

to the third phase

just dont choose the one which causes it

[fiery mango]

No it’s random

Totally random

In my experience at least

[dense eagle]

i didnt had this happen

and heard it was happening for specific one

[dusky narwhal]

i'll try experimenting a bit more with those directions, it has started happening consistently after choosing ares

[umbral crest]

Address me.

[fiery mango]

This has been a problem since launch I would have expected it to be patched by now but alright I guess

It’s a feature now 🙂

[coarse topaz]

which pots/accessories should i use in order to beat infernum aquatic scourge?

[dusky narwhal]

is it just the standalone version or is it also a thing in fargo's DLC proper?

[fiery mango]

I.. don’t really remember

It might be both

I think it was both

[dusky narwhal]

i see

thx!

[fast stirrup]

ok which switch in dragonlens is used for pulling solyn over?

[dusky blaze]

Funny thing
Void stone is not mineable
But those rocks near that chest at the abyss are
And you can then put those funi rocks into shimmer

[dusky blaze]

1. How much progress are we talking
2. I dont think level matters

[small hatch]

Ohhhh alright thankfully I don’t have those chests so I gotta find it elsewhere

[small hatch]

I’m after cryogen

[dusky blaze]

You have that chest
Its at the bottom of the abyss

[small hatch]

I have calamity overhaul |:

[dusky blaze]

Oh

[fast stirrup]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KiIWC14vu0&t=8s btw is there an addon that replaces THE LORDE's medley with this?

[small hatch]

Is this where the chest spawns???

[dusky blaze]

Idk

But
I found what block i mined
Its smooth voidstone

[small hatch]

Ohhh alright so I probably won’t be able to get that sadly

[dusky blaze]

Sad

[small hatch]

I seriously hate the overhauls progression bc I can’t use ANY of the ores I should have bc I’m locked until I beat both the twins and the destroyer

But the weapons they add like the halibut cannon are too good to not have the mod

[umbral crest]

Guys, is my build good for Goliath?

[maiden cobalt]

ah but see

its cal overhaul

[small hatch]

Wait a min HALIBUT IS JUST A DEFAULT GUN IN CALAMITY??!?!??! Holy shit what have I been doing

[maiden cobalt]

therefore it is horseshit

dude 95% of cal overhaul is just

other mods.

[small hatch]

Sooooo

Ditch it

?

[maiden cobalt]

yes

immediately

[small hatch]

Alrighty

[maiden cobalt]

on the road preferably

[small hatch]

Wait but isent it the thing that makes it so there is a quest line for the halibut orrrrr

No

[maiden cobalt]

thats infernum generation

the terminus is what you seek?

its near the very very very bottom

[small hatch]

Sort of, I was wondering as if the halibut still upgrades and there is still dialogue between her and calamitas

[maiden cobalt]

that dialogue sucks iirc

[small hatch]

Ok so other than that idc abt that mod anymore. I do care abt my world tho. Is it possible to get the ores like mythril and titanium orrrrrrr do i have to make a whole new world.

[maiden cobalt]

calamity naturally causes an ore progression system

kill one mech to gain mythril and orichalchum

kill two to gain titanium and adamantite

kill three to gain hallowed

[small hatch]

OH so you do have to do that ok

Now that overhaul is gone what exactly do I gain from doing so. If yk any changes that help exactly that is.

[maiden cobalt]

you dont have a dogshit mod :)

[small hatch]

Alright that’s good lol

[maiden cobalt]

im not sure what calov adds but i rember it being horseshit

lemme

^ booooop.

[small hatch]

I see. So I never am going to touch that mod again!

Ty though. This will make playing this game allot more fun lol

[onyx barn]

How can I fight against nameless deity again?

[lofty mist]

Terminus iirc

[onyx barn]

U mean the item wich tp me to the garden? Im there under the tree but only Solyn is there

[knotty birch]

is there any murasama progression guide

[somber basin]

Do difficulty modes affect wrath of the gods, for example Nameless Deity?

if I'm playing on f.ex master death mode

[frank mauve]

ik gfb changes nameless

[gloomy mist]

calamity overhaul?

[fallen horizon]

what's the best armor pre plantera for melee infernum

there's a bunch of options

[thin canyon]

nope

iirc only gfb world changed him

to be much more aggressive and well
1 hit last phase

[knotty birch]

yes its at trail 8 but with 250 damage

[gloomy mist]

ehh

refer to this

[knotty birch]

Ahhhh

[gloomy mist]

yeah uh
the mod is kinda problematic

[maiden cobalt]

he also shatters your rod of harmony no

[thin canyon]

ye

[maiden cobalt]

he shatters a lot of your stuff

[thin canyon]

then rant about it

[fading dove]

p3 doesn't ohko

its specifically moment of creation that does

[tender gust]

plantera infernum is too hard

[frank mauve]

bigger arena

[tender gust]

fucking hate wasting hours digging out an arena but i guess ill have to

[frank mauve]

theres options to make it quicker

[tender gust]

what are the options

[fading dove]

dynamite

[tender gust]

that still takes ages

[fading dove]

takes a lot less time than anything preml

hell anything during the game

[frank mauve]

theres also a plantera arena ready to be used 🤔

[tender gust]

yeah im using that arean

arena

[frank mauve]

yeah blow up everything and it should be good

[fallen horizon]

calamitas clone's attacks are too difficult to dodge help

[lofty mist]

Why do so many people insist on using cal overhaul

Is it because of the murasama rework

[smoky dock]

yeah

either that or "I saw a youtuber use it"

[acoustic lava]

AAA no

The maker is asshole

Check the third message in pins in this channel to understand

[onyx igloo]

Calamity Overhaul is worse than Epstein

[elder nebula]

[spice pike]

Are crystal gauntlets good?

[spice pike]

*made by.

[frank mauve]

is this really true

did overhaul diddle

[lofty mist]

No im asking why so many people download it in the first place

I see people ask why their game breaks like every other day and people tell them to uninstall overhaul and it always fixes it

[dusty cobalt]

Why do people download overhaul

[spice pike]

Looks appealing I guess.

[lofty mist]

Like

If you’re a new cal player what about overhaul appeals to people

Wouldn’t you wanna try normal cal before addons

Except like maybe wotg

And experienced players would know it’s bad because everyone shit talks it

[maiden cobalt]

i think cal overhaul just kinda looks neat

for most people

[dusty cobalt]

To be honest i didnt even know it existed when I started

[maiden cobalt]

nor i

[lofty mist]

Same

[maiden cobalt]

i think i mighta heard of it like

by process of knowing it

[lofty mist]

I only knew about infernum because of its infamous difficulty

And calamity because like

It’s calamity

And Fargos

Because like

It’s fargos

[maiden cobalt]

i know of a lot of mods

[lofty mist]

I also knew about mod of redemption, saw someone play it forever ago

But I didn’t know about overhaul

[maiden cobalt]

MoR has kinda fallen outta my enjoyment

i used to love it but im too calamity rotted

[lofty mist]

I’m infernum rotted

When sso hits I’m gonna get infernum withdrawal

[spice pike]

also does revengence+ mod give goozma maso mode boosts?

[dusty cobalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/773751924977696768/1356792364273762365/ezgif-7f37f99ad930d7.gif

[acoustic lava]

Murasama progression

But i need someone who has played early murasama mod

To tell me if it's the same murasama from overhul or not

[loud stag]

Hey so, would I be able to ask something in regards to the mod itself here?

[frank mauve]

just ask

🤔

[loud stag]

Just making sure I'm in the right channel is on

So, I've been getting the urge to get back into Calamity, and I did a brief test run. As I expected, the difficulty is still too much for me. It's part of the reason why I stopped playing it so long ago. I just don't know if I should keep playing Revengence, or if it would be ok to go to Classic difficulty

[lofty mist]

Do infernum

It’s easier than revengeance

[lofty mist]

(Being fr though it doesn’t really matter what difficulty you do as long as you’re enjoying it)

[loud stag]

I'm just worried about missing anything by playing on an easier mode. I can't find any concrete answer online if there's any drops that are exclusive to Revengance and up

[frank mauve]

there are rev and death drops if thats what ur asking

[frank mauve]

and by difficult wdym

u could play expert rev and ask for help in #calamity-mod-talk

if u have struggles against a boss

it could be a bad loadout or missing stuff

[loud stag]

Maybe...I'll go ask

[frank mauve]

but yeah expert revengeance is the intended difficulty usually

if ur maybe struggling u can always ask here

[main stump]

i forgot how hard infernum queen slime was

i almost died to her when i was pre golem

[frank mauve]

[neon stag]

[acoustic lava]

AAA

Stars above is compatible with infernum and main calamity?

[main stump]

time for my least favorite part of infernum

the scary abyss...

[flat cloak]

how do i dodge infernum BOC's charge attack? it feels undodgeable due to the fact it feels like it only stops once i get hit

[main stump]

i think u just gotta outrun it

i forgot how i did it though

[smoky dock]

Watch a nohit of the fight

I don't remember entirely how I avoided it

[frank mauve]

what charge attack 🤔

[azure bane]

bloody worm scarf or amalgamated brain for infernum melee

[main stump]

its the move where he just moves towards you

like unrelentingly

[frank mauve]

then just run away idk

[smoky dock]

both have value

[frank mauve]

like usually u just dash and run away

[smoky dock]

pick your favorite

[azure bane]

i never get to use scarf

so scarf it is

[flat cloak]

running away has never worked for me

[smoky dock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBXE-172KYk This was a pretty slow fight and goes through every attack a few times

[main stump]

oh damnit i gotta fight infernum ravager

i gen hate that fight but its the easiest way to get the materials for life alloy

[smoky dock]

go fishing

[main stump]

wdym

[frank mauve]

can u even fish for ores now

[smoky dock]

You can still fish for ores yes

The next update hasn't come out yet

[main stump]

oh i didnt know that ngl

do i just get the ores from crates or

[smoky dock]

Scoria comes from Hydrothermic crates post-Golem
Perennial comes from Bramble crates post-Plantera
Cryonic comes from Boreal crates post-Mech2 + Cryogen

[main stump]

oh that requires too much moving around imma just kill ravager

theres only one thing i dislike more than ravager and thats fishing

[smoky dock]

👎

just do the Fishing In Any Biome Without Moving glitch

(FIABWM)

[frank mauve]

or use pylons

[azure bane]

which set bonus is better for melee cobalt or pallad

[smoky dock]

use both and decide for yourself

[frank bluff]

depends if you want need or survivability

[smoky dock]

both of them have niches and are both relevant

[frank bluff]

pallad for survivability while cobalt for dmg

btw what should i add for my last slot

[smoky dock]

cobalt has mediocre defense but improved acceleration (rare stat) and great allclass crit% and damage%

[frank bluff]

haven't done brefit ik

[smoky dock]

palladium has mediocre defense and mediocre offensive stats but Palladium Regeneration is incredibly strong

[smoky dock]

The Absorber

[frank bluff]

guh i kept forgetting ampoule

[frank bluff]

btw should i just get rid of boots

[main stump]

i hate how fuckin garbage the infernum ravager fight is

its genuinely so annoying

[smoky dock]

yeah, you absolutely do not need boomts

just use a good pair of wings and you'll be as fast as you need

[main stump]

whats a good summon weapon for him

[frank bluff]

my movement feels so ass after removing it

[smoky dock]

have you considered using good wings

[frank bluff]

i'm using my current best

ig

[smoky dock]

throw on Celestial Starboard or Solar/Stardust/Exodus wings

[smoky dock]

[frank bluff]

a

[smoky dock]

Horizontal speed of 6.50 is comparable to Angel and Demon wings

[frank bluff]

starboard it is then

[smoky dock]

Acceleration mult of 1.5 is equal to Hadal Mantle and Aureate Booster

Celestial Starboard though might be TOO fast

I also heard that it has some weird interaction with uhhh

[frank bluff]

the reason that i used that is

[smoky dock]

Modded dashes

[main stump]

^

[frank bluff]

mage bonus

[main stump]

for ravager*

[smoky dock]

the one million billion stat bonuses?

[frank bluff]

no idea

[smoky dock]

yeah that makes sense

[smoky dock]

dreadmine staff

[frank bluff]

nebula armor already did that

[smoky dock]

yeah exactly

[frank bluff]

i'm gonna compare it against boots

[smoky dock]

I've never been a fan of stat bonuses on wings

Exceptions exist but

[frank bluff]

ok so

i have better horizontal movement if i use boots

[smoky dock]

Yep

Throw yourself at the boss fight a few times to get a feel of how it's like in practice

[frank bluff]

but i have better air time if i use wings

i'm just gonna use boots for guards

[smoky dock]

Then swap boots in and out to see if you actually need the extra mobility

[frank bluff]

since you have infinite air time

[frank bluff]

btw ignore the fact that i use hive pack

[smoky dock]

you're using the Swarmer

[main stump]

thats a sentry 😭

[smoky dock]

that really likes Hive Pack

[main stump]

i mean ill go get it but i still need a good summon

[smoky dock]

thumbsup~2

hardmode calamity sentries are insanely broken

calamity nerfed ballhalla knight but it's never been fucking better gamers

oh yeah also dreadmines have a uh

dreadmines inflict static i-frames so you wanna mix one dreadmine in there with other sentries

[frank bluff]

@smoky dock am i ready now

[smoky dock]

If you think you're confident then go for it

[frank bluff]

okey

guh i kept forgetting my b ed

[late light]

hi me and some friends wanted to play infernal eclipse of ragnarok. what mods should we add alongside it?

[smoky dock]

Is Infernal Eclipse of Ragnarok a compatibility mod or a modpack?

[elder nebula]

both i think

[late light]

compatabiliyy mod i think

oh

[smoky dock]

if it's a modpack then you don't need anything more

[elder nebula]

i know it's definitely a modpack

[late light]

ah i see thankss

[main stump]

the dreadmine staff isnt spawning anything???

[smoky dock]

Dreadmines only spawn things on solid blocks and background walls iirc

[main stump]

oh so i gotta make a buncha background walls

thats so annoying bro

[smoky dock]

nothing's forcing you to use dreadmines

If you don't wanna pay the price of admission then don't use it

[frank bluff]

@smoky dock is there only 2 mana upgrades in calamity

[smoky dock]

there are three

[frank bluff]

what's the final one

[smoky dock]

idk i don't know shit about that magic schmagic stuff

[frank bluff]

a

[smoky dock]

It's crafted from materials available post-Polterghast

[frank bluff]

damn

ok

which means ethereal core is the 2nd one

[smoky dock]

Yep

[main stump]

the price of admission for a simple sentry should not be me placing 10k+ walls bro

im gonna do it but like damn

[elder nebula]

can't dreadmine theoretically do infinite damage

[smoky dock]

No but it can theoretically do more damage than any other weapon theoretically can

[main stump]

fym theoretically

[smoky dock]

I suppose the Zapinator/Orange Zapinator could theoretically do more

[smoky dock]

In theory

In practice. No.

[main stump]

so like is it even worth placing all of these walls for like one boss

[smoky dock]

In theory it can spawn the maximum number of mines it can every tick and all of them will hit

[smoky dock]

that's for you to decide

Dreadmines are REALLY good

It will make the fight easier

[main stump]

i wish there was a mod that makes wall placement faster

this is so boring

[smoky dock]

Is it worth placing the walls for an easier fight?

[elder nebula]

builder potion + hand of creation

[smoky dock]

Marnite Architect Toga makes walls place faster iirc

[dull stratus]

What do I do as rouge when I get to hard mode?

[smoky dock]

as does the Reaver Headgear...? I think?

[elder nebula]

titan heart armor

[smoky dock]

On top of all the generic upgrades you can find, Titan Heart armor is an upgrade (but Statigel armor is still worth considering since Titan Heart penalizes attack speed and Statigel has a very strong double jump)

Find a better weapon

I really like Cobalt Kunai

[dull stratus]

Ok thxxxx

What rouge accessories do I get?

[smoky dock]

I don't remember

I know that the uhhhh

Ruin Medallion is a major upgrade and is seriously worth considering getting as early as possible

Sooooo shoot for beating Brimstone Elemental

[fossil saffron]

brimmy..

[dull stratus]

Can I fish for hard mode ores?

[main stump]

i actually think ravager is the most shit infernum boss of all time

its genuinely the only boss that is not fun in any regard

[elder nebula]

no

[dull stratus]

Ah thx

[main stump]

ok yeah the best strategy for infernum ravager is to just stay as far away as possible

[smoky dock]

👍

[main stump]

can i use astral sand to create an artificial astral biome

so i can just fight astrum aureus in my already made arena

[smoky dock]

Yes

[elder nebula]

yeah but you need 900

[main stump]

ok thats fine

[smoky dock]

Just use a Clentaminator

[main stump]

oh yeah i could just use that i forgot

[frank bluff]

@smoky dock ok i actually need to change my weapon

since the swarmer is slow

[smoky dock]

whar

oh

[frank bluff]

uhhh

what should i change for hive pack

[smoky dock]

well do the good ol’ reliable Pick Something And Use It Until You Decide To Switch Again

[frank bluff]

might using it again for prov*

[frank bluff]

💀

[smoky dock]

what do you think I did for nohitting

[frank bluff]

the accesory

what should i change

[frank bluff]

this one

[smoky dock]

Pick something and switch it in and see what happens

[frank bluff]

imma fight brefit soon and let's see if there's good accesory

[acoustic lava]

AA

Guy's

Is this a steam bug or what

While i was scrolling to my subscribed items list on steam
I found item that i didn't even know

[indigo patio]

Which two exo mechs should I go for in infurnum I want to go Ares and the twins but I feel like they kinda stay away from true melee rather effectively.

[frank mauve]

do thana ares

[indigo patio]

Yeah I figured. I just suck at worm bosses. Dog took 40 something attempts and then yharon and s-cal died in 2 attempts.

[frank mauve]

well if u coil thana u can kill him in like 10 seconds with dragon rage

[frank bluff]

i go to #225030931692388352

[frank mauve]

40 attempts for dog is good though

[indigo patio]

I'm playing with a higher health and damage scale then master so it will probably be a bit longer that 10 seconds. But I will do my best. I do like dragon rage so at least I get an excuse to use it

[frank mauve]

thats fire wish u the best lol

[frank bluff]

got past first phase on guards

[maiden cobalt]

whats the idea behind phase 2 twins after combo attack

the part with the big circle and spaz still flarecharging

maso-death

[frank bluff]

it's official

the newest most amount of attempt to take me to kill a single boss

and i'm not even finished yet

[frank mauve]

this gameplay stresses me

[azure bane]

what's this background for

did my astral underground somehow reach hell

[main stump]

whats a good summon for infernum EoL

raven staff seems to be lacking too much in dmg

[frank mauve]

xeno staff

[main stump]

xeno staff seemed so ass though

like against ravager anyways

[fading dove]

the single target summon is in fact not amazing against the multi target boss

[main stump]

yeah i prolly gotta kill duke fishron rq

these wings are just too bad at vertical momentum

i love just getting one shot when shes at 10%

totally fair

[frank bluff]

you're not alone

[main stump]

ok yeah i just needed better wings

spooky wings might be slightly good for summoner but at the same time its vertical speed was so ass

[frank bluff]

4 hp gameplay isn't easy

[amber elk]

how much of every item required for scendent spirit essence do i need

[main stump]

2 necroplasm and darksun fragment, 5 nightmare fuel and endothermic energy

[late hound]

Guys? Can someone please help me? My game wont run properly, and I wanna know if its one of my mods. Heres my modlist

[amber elk]

is this good for infernum yharon?(im using event horizon)

[simple yarrow]

Hey, does anyone knows if infernum changes how corruptions expand?

[dense eagle]

No

In prehm, it spreads by grass

In hm, it spreads by stone

[ripe hill]

idk what just happen and i have no ss of it cuz i was kinda shock, so i was about to fight the old duke and ya know break the ice and fish for old duke, idk what the fuck happen but when old duke appear, somehow avatar of emptyness appear and killed the old duke for me and i have all the loot like what the hell, the second time i summon old duke it didnt happen, and my nycro boss massage said that i have 1 attemp on avatar which idk how that happen, did i do smth wrong like huh?

[dense eagle]

Most possibly wotg feature

[neon stag]

If youre still struggling I can help

[dense eagle]

I dont like old duke so i would be happy

[ripe hill]

i mean i also hate old duke but idk why did it do that, like i never seen such thing happen

[dense eagle]

You saw yourself in the fog?

Also in infernum mod the sentinels appear on their free time

Like stormweaver come to jumpscare and kill harpies

[ripe hill]

No not like that bullshit, I mean the actual avatar appear still in his portal form, like before old duke absolutely got obliterated he was about to attack with it's shadow hands kinda shit, I got jumpscare cuz again, that never happened

Like the sky was clear, avatar was down in front of me and after it destroyed old duke, it just go back into it's place on top of the sun and moon place

And no, I did not use infernum

[ripe hill]

I did not get the fog phenomenon yet, but I know it will happen just dunno when

And nycro boss chat appear like it really was a boss fight even tho I am still far from completing the genesis, like I am at pre-dog far

[dawn rose]

lets go infernum yharon is dead

surprisingly easy

but the red arrows mod made the last part of the fight lag my game a lot

[neon stag]

What are we looking at here?

[dawn rose]

chikn nuggets

5 thousand of them

[neon stag]

Chimnken nuggets

[dawn rose]

sadly had to fight yharon in a different world

cuz i fucked up my main one with instabridges

[neon stag]

now its exos and scal time

[dawn rose]

unironically

red arrows actually helped me on DoG

[neon stag]

Im begging you, please use a different whip perditus is ahh

[dawn rose]

im using morning star

[neon stag]

Good

[dawn rose]

but i wanted to see how perditus will do post polter

[neon stag]

Its not bad

You can actually play summoner completely whipless and get very good kill times

but perditus is just worst of the 3 end game whips iirc

[dawn rose]

oh alr

and morning star is the best post-polter

right?

DUDE WHERE THE FUCK IS AURIC ORE

i only see thorium ores for fucks sake

finally found a patch of some auric

is 400 auric ore enough

?

[maiden fjord]

you need at least 1200+ of them

[dawn rose]

yeah i figured it out

i only managed to make leggings and body armor

[neon stag]

You need alot

[fallen horizon]

what is the best armor for pre plantera stage melee

I'm playing infernum

[maiden fjord]

either adamantite or chlorophyte
or if you don't mind doing old one's army, squire armor

[fallen horizon]

I have adamantite what about chlorophyte

cause calamitas shadow is hard as hell

[maiden fjord]

chlorphyte provides the crystal that does aoe damage
that's kinda it

[dawn rose]

alr ive mined up another 800

It SHOULD be enough now

right?

[dense eagle]

[maiden fjord]

2000 Auric Ores

you might gonna kill yharon again for some more soul fragment

[dawn rose]

birb

[dawn rose]

alr

after i use my 65 auric bars

what should i use for the exo mechs

should i use yharims gift or the community?

[cunning folio]

personally i use yharims gift over community

but it's up to you

[frank bluff]

guh

[amber elk]

please do

[frank bluff]

gl on infernum Yharon

[amber elk]

what weapon did u use?

[frank bluff]

nuclear fury

[amber elk]

still struggling btw

[amber elk]

FOR YHARON?

use event horizon the upgrade

[frank bluff]

you said u so

😭

so i thought what weapon i'm using to fight infernum providence rn

[amber elk]

ohhhhh

i thought you were ahead of me?

how does the silva armour revive work

[frank bluff]

nope

[amber elk]

do you have any other addons enable

[frank bluff]

nothing much

only infernum

[amber elk]

oh

[frank bluff]

no catalyst mod

[amber elk]

i used the intergelactic armour from catalyst

[amber elk]

i have catalyst hotg wotg wrath of the machines

please somone help

[neon stag]

Elysian wings, asgardian aegis, the sponge, darksun ring, the amalgam, that one sigil of calamitas upgrade and ambrosial ampoule is probably what I would use

Or darksun ring/amalgam for charm of myths and ambrosial for blood pact

[amber elk]

ambrosial has an upgrade right?

[neon stag]

Post yharon

[amber elk]

i mean the build works pretty good its just that im shit

[neon stag]

gg

[amber elk]

also elysian?

im using silva wings

[neon stag]

You have bad wings and destroyer emblem/void of extinction just arent that good

[amber elk]

also how does the silva armour set bonus work\

[neon stag]

Silva wings are better

[amber elk]

what do i replace void with

[neon stag]

If you want to keep the rest of your build without swapping anything, ambrosial ampoule or darksun ring

but blood pact charm of myths is a good replacement for both void and emblem

[amber elk]

darksun ring doesnt have mage buffs

[neon stag]

Its for the defensive, really

[amber elk]

also im gonna mix some summons in between

[neon stag]

You should keep in mind that this is just what works/worked for me, not something that has to work for you aswell

end game loadouts are pretty much just based on preference

[neon stag]

I like using brittle star staff for the extra defense

[amber elk]

oh

i was gonna do a damage summon

[neon stag]

you could do like a mirror of kalandra if you have the spots left

Or pole warpers

[amber elk]

whats pole warpers

[neon stag]

Filler summon

Does hella damage

[amber elk]

i have an idea

[amber elk]

do i replace destroyer with a summon acc?

[neon stag]

dark sun ring is a pretty good option

[amber elk]

alr do

[dawn rose]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-s-patrick-patrick-star-bottle-dumb-gif-1741625486363070335

I'm playing summoner dude

Mourningstar is melee

[frank bluff]

mb

[dawn rose]

It's alr

[frank bluff]

FUCK I DIDN'T SEE IT DIDN'T DO MELEE DMG

i never played summoner i forgot melee

mb

[neon stag]

Buddy.

[frank bluff]

I FORGOT

I NEVER CRAFTED MOURNING STAR

I THOUGHT IT'S A SUMMONER WHIP

[frank bluff]

me rn after messing up weapon

[fast nacelle]

No that’s MORNINGstar

It’s post planterra

[wild narwhal]

how do i know when yharon dashes at me in infernum and when he doesnt 😭

[dawn rose]

Just look at him

Or smth

He turns a lighter shade of red o think

He's pretty easy compared to DoG

[fast nacelle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WD5dnvk3x-fnH3GRneQGSkdnQBTss2L_Uw98J51bwGs/edit?usp=drivesdk

[dawn rose]

Like you don't even need to ram dash in the first phase

You can just dodge the attacks

And you can save your revive from the Silva armor

[neon stag]

Ramming is generally better

[dawn rose]

That's what I did

[neon stag]

Depending on the class

[dawn rose]

Yeah

The red arrow mod made my game lag a ton

[neon stag]

Just running around is the easiest way tho, but usually requires homing to hit yharon consistently

[dawn rose]

So uhh I had a few problems in the 2nd phase

[dawn rose]

Btw what should I use for exo mechs and scal?

And should I do the exo mechs first?

I'm playing summoner btw

[neon stag]

Exos are generally considered easier and you get some upgrades for scal

[dawn rose]

Like life matter?

Or whatever it's called

[neon stag]

Miracle matter

[dawn rose]

Yeah mb

I also heard that the draedon gaming chair is good

[neon stag]

I would use

• lilies of finality
• mirror of kalandra
• staff of mechworm/pole warper as filler
• cadaverous carrion (sentry, good for scal)

[dawn rose]

For Scal

[neon stag]

Post game

iirc

[dawn rose]

I don't really like mech worm can I use something else?

[neon stag]

Pole warper

[dawn rose]

And is the summon from yharon any good for Scal?

[neon stag]

Yharons kindle staff?

[dawn rose]

Yeah

[neon stag]

I havent personally used it, so no opinion. Just try your dps with it and without, then use whichever feels more comfortable to use

[dawn rose]

Alr

Off topic question but what do y'all think is the most overrated indie game?

[neon stag]

I read that as underrated

[dawn rose]

Pluh

Imo I think one of them is gd

The gameplay loop is boring af

[fast nacelle]

For summoner doing exos is considered better simply because of how broken draedon heart is

[dawn rose]

Alr

[neon stag]

This literally goes for every class .,;,;,.

[fast nacelle]

Yup

[neon stag]

but yeah

[dawn rose]

I also invested a crisp 70 hours in gd

[night fractal]

More so exo box and Ares exoskelton

Draedon Heart is probably the third best reason

[fast nacelle]

Assumed this was infernum

Byeah forgot exoskeleton

[dawn rose]

Ain't there a summon made out of miracle matter?

[night fractal]

Oh how was I in CAT

[fast nacelle]

It sucks

[dawn rose]

Oh.

[night fractal]

I just clicked the server and was here

oops

Then yes not exo box

[neon stag]

The something something immaterializer

[night fractal]

not sucks

Just is lame

and worse than exoskeleton

It is better than anything pre exos though

[dawn rose]

In which order should I do the mechs btw. It's my first time against draedon

[fast nacelle]

In my eyes that is sucking

[fast nacelle]

Don’t do Thanatos and ares

[night fractal]

it is worse than an S tier item oh no

[fast nacelle]

Yup

[night fractal]

Immaterializer is basically the "I couldn't kill ares last" backup item

[fast nacelle]

Also it’s ugly

Imo

[dawn rose]

So Artemis, Thanatos and Ares?

[night fractal]

Yeah it's lame and ugly

[fast nacelle]

Truth

[neon stag]

I think twins ares is for exoskeleton

I might just be lying tho

[fast nacelle]

All except Thanatos+twins works to get the ares drops

[frank bluff]

I KNOW

morning star is vanilla whip

[peak jacinth]

xddd

[rare walrus]

guys i just got to thanatos for the 1st time in exo mechs

should i use a weapon like

dragons rage

tho im rogue

[neon stag]

If you dont care about being monoclass, dragon rage is extremely good yes

[rare walrus]

ok ty

what summoner weapon should i use as a support

or sumth

im using DoG one

[fast nacelle]

The drones

So you can get debuff

So you can do more damage

[rare walrus]

what drone

[fast nacelle]

Ichor bullets

[rare walrus]

im rogue

[fast nacelle]

The wall of flesh summon but it’s post dog uograde

[fast nacelle]

Yeah it used bullets

Uses

[rare walrus]

ohh

i didnt know ok

[fast nacelle]

So you can get ichor and crumbling

It’s very useful imo

But only have one or two

The last can be like endo hydra

[rare walrus]

ok ty

[glacial wave]

is it rare that acid rain spawn?

[fast nacelle]

No

Not really

It’s like blood moon

[glacial wave]

ah ok then its just bad luck that i have

[fast nacelle]

Have you killed eye

[glacial wave]

yeah im already at dog but its not spawning and i dont have the spawner

[fast nacelle]

Use shimmer to shimmer the rusty chest loot so you can craft the spawn

[glacial wave]

tysm

[sage ivy]

should i use seraph tracers or wings of rebirth

[fast nacelle]

Wings

[neon stag]

Wings of rebirth

[fast nacelle]

Tracers has a niche for Exo mechs

But I still recommend wings

[sage ivy]

Im at exo mechs rn

im doing infernum, they keep killing me

[neon stag]

Probably a build issue

[fast nacelle]

Ok yeah wings of rebirth

[neon stag]

Send ss

[sage ivy]

wait

[neon stag]

okay theres a bunch of stuff to do

[sage ivy]

Can the teto costume stay on

[steep cobalt]

meow

[fast nacelle]

Use radiance and rampart of deities instead of necklace and absorber

And get more Teto outfits

[steep cobalt]

reaper tooth necklace

[sage ivy]

im also using ataraxia

[steep cobalt]

i'd suggest using dark sun ring over chalice

[neon stag]

I would swap reaper tooth necklace for radiance, absorber for rampart of deities and badge of bravery/dark sun ring over chalice.

[sage ivy]

aight

thanks

[fast nacelle]

Dark sun ring over badge cuz more defense

If you wanna use either

[steep cobalt]

rtn is the pinnacle of mediocrity

and false allurement

[neon stag]

Its only slightly better than an emblem

In my testing

[steep cobalt]

like c'mon 15 ap is utterly placebo

[neon stag]

Its like 17.5% value compared to the 15% from an emblem xD

[sage ivy]

I use menacing on everything

[steep cobalt]

how could one impel themselves into thinking that rtn'd better than everything else?

[neon stag]

Go lucky

Full lucky

[steep cobalt]

warding

either lucky or warding

no inbetween

[sage ivy]

but the bosses do so much defense damage

[steep cobalt]

what defense damage?

nah it's negligible

[neon stag]

Eh, warding is viable for exos since they deal relatively low damage when compared to yharon/dog, but I would still go for lucky cuz simply killing the enemy faster can sometimes end up in you taking less damage than using something like full warding.

[steep cobalt]

exhibit a: i killed exo mechs without any hassle

[neon stag]

its just preference

[steep cobalt]

counterargument: warding allows you to be reckless quite often

resulting in higher damage

[sage ivy]

Is ataraxia a good weapon

[steep cobalt]

you don't consolidate defense just to not be aggressive

[steep cobalt]

yes

[neon stag]

yes

[steep cobalt]

but i'd also suggest crafting the zenith

[neon stag]

ataraxia + purity is

[steep cobalt]

it's the best weapon for exo mechs

oh wait

infernum huh

[sage ivy]

purity?

[neon stag]

Zenith is still very good for exos

In infernum

[steep cobalt]

i guess dragon rage for exo mechs because the infernum incarnation is much more lenient towards true melee

byeah zenith is still great

[neon stag]

Dragon rage for thanatos

Zenith is better for ares

[steep cobalt]

dragon rage for everything

[neon stag]

I like using ataraxia for twins

[steep cobalt]

depending on the combination

[neon stag]

Gets outdamaged by zenith and ataraxia

[steep cobalt]

i usually go for twins + ares

pop rage when ares arrives

and then thanatos comes in in a whim

[fast nacelle]

It’s good for no hits!

[steep cobalt]

it's nohit

either they intentionally hamper the damage output as to abide to the mnt

[neon stag]

Pure damage accessories like rtn are usually not used in no-hits

[neon stag]

For this exact reason^^^

[steep cobalt]

yeh

[fast nacelle]

i use it since I’m doing sentries only!!

It’s

It’s looking real bleak

[steep cobalt]

you should probably aggrandize valhalla knight's bulk more than anything

considering you have cadaverous carrion later on

[fast nacelle]

Sentries only no hit

And I’m post yharon

[steep cobalt]

oh c'mon it's nohit

of course

[fast nacelle]

[steep cobalt]

actually why should i be irritated by that?

[fast nacelle]

Cuz no hits ducking sucks and it’s like depression compressed into a molecule

I hate no hits
-Every no hitter ever

[steep cobalt]

just remind yourself that carrion functions as a mortar

[neon stag]

I hate no hits when theyre hard

[steep cobalt]

it's hapless against anything under it but its dps is genuinely great

[fast nacelle]

I know I’ve been using them for a while by now

Since yharon took a while

[fast nacelle]

Genuinely insane imo

Sentries lowkey so op but it’s just that the enemies have to above the sentries for some reason

[sage ivy]

why is ark of cosmos disappointing

[fast nacelle]

Are you using the cosmic rip

And parry

[neon stag]

The whole ark of the cosmos crafting tree is mid

Theyre never bad, never good. Always just decent

[fast nacelle]

It really isn’t

They’re all around like

A-S tier

[steep cobalt]

ark of the ancient is great at poink blank

[neon stag]

Theres always a better option

[steep cobalt]

just be aggressive

[neon stag]

Fuhh nah bro

theyre always like B tier max

[steep cobalt]

i'd say b-a tier

not feeling vitriolic today

[neon stag]

Theyre never as good as any of the best options for any boss

[sage ivy]

The damage is kinda low for allat

[neon stag]

Which ones would you count as S tier

[fast nacelle]

Yeah that’s what A-S tier usually is

[neon stag]

I guess ark of elements gets a decent kill time on guardians

[fast nacelle]

actually S tier a bit too high

[neon stag]

no thats B tier lol

[steep cobalt]

except for the fractured ark though, that things is rendered obsolete by other options

[neon stag]

A and S tier means that theyre good