calamity-addon-talk

[amber elk]

whats abaddon

[cobalt pier]

You can upgrade to arcane flower btw

More damage same effect

[cobalt pier]

Red devil drop

[amber elk]

arcane doesnt have damage upgrades i thought

[cobalt pier]

Cal changes

[fossil topaz]

why the fuck is the steampunker not selling the jetpack

oh no wait it aint the right moon time

[cobalt pier]

Putrid scent + manaflower

[steep cobalt]

genial aroma

[onyx igloo]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I'm mega bored

[steep cobalt]

stop being bored by playing fargo

[onyx igloo]

After I beat SCal with supernova again I'm gonna do a new run

[steep cobalt]

or masochist ex

or satanist

[onyx igloo]

Since Shadowspec weapons are completely useless

[frank bluff]

ok but ornate shield gave 4 more defense than deep diver

[cobalt pier]

So -3 flat damage?

[onyx igloo]

I'm going to do a run with 50x health and 5-10x more defense

[cobalt pier]

DoT builds

?!

[steep cobalt]

still better than +3 damage taken

[onyx igloo]

Maybe 25x defense with Shadowspec for funsies

[frank bluff]

and i feel like

deep diver's dash is hard to hit

[onyx igloo]

Since they're useless

[cobalt pier]

Ok but i go from deep diver dash (goated) to ornate dash (ass)

[steep cobalt]

or +3.4 damage taken with the candle

[onyx igloo]

I recommend dashing

[fossil topaz]

istg

[cobalt pier]

You're not raming the boss

[fossil topaz]

shadow calamitas

is going to make me break my entire desk

[steep cobalt]

you don't ram the boss

[frank bluff]

so that's why i choose ornate more than deep diver

[fossil topaz]

holy shit

[frank bluff]

I'm trying

[fossil topaz]

everything is bullshit

[cobalt pier]

Truncate, terraria truncates

You still take 3

[frank bluff]

it's hard to hit it consistently

[cobalt pier]

Yeah.. don't??

[frank bluff]

except detroyer

[steep cobalt]

you demolish the boss with a jagged electric baton

[frank bluff]

idk how tf did i hit it well

so that's why i use ornate shield instead

[cobalt pier]

Deep diver isn't a ramdash it's a default dash upgrade, use it as such

[steep cobalt]

also called submarine shocker

[frank bluff]

imo more consistent ram dash

[cobalt pier]

Because you don't use deep diver for ram

[steep cobalt]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Submarine_Shocker

use it

use it

[cobalt pier]

Silly

[steep cobalt]

USE IT

[frank bluff]

a

[onyx igloo]

I lick this wiki page in my free time

[amber elk]

wish me luck

[frank bluff]

that's why

I'm so stupid

[onyx igloo]

It'll be easy dw

Hes the easiest mech

[frank bluff]

i just replace shield of cthulhu with that

[cobalt pier]

He's the easiest

[amber elk]

the what?

[frank bluff]

it's not too bad

[steep cobalt]

welcome to the most banal and cumbersome boss to tolerate

[frank bluff]

you might be able to first try it

[steep cobalt]

because he's boring as fuck

from my tenure as a true melee user

[amber elk]

i have some not so good memories with this guy

[cobalt pier]

He's vastly easier in inf

[steep cobalt]

look it's just 5 minutes of oscillating around and flailing in irritation

[cobalt pier]

They nerfed my boi

[steep cobalt]

he couldn't hurt me

[amber elk]

i remember struggling at him in basecal mp

[steep cobalt]

and i struggled to hit him

[frank bluff]

OH IK WHY PEOPLE USE DEEP DIVER NOW

i think

[steep cobalt]

no

[amber elk]

does he regen arms

hell no deep diver is shit

[steep cobalt]

no

rapid dash

[frank bluff]

no

[steep cobalt]

always valuable

[frank bluff]

i was about to say this

[cobalt pier]

No

[steep cobalt]

short but fleeting leaps

you don't use it to ram dash

[cobalt pier]

[amber elk]

alr

[steep cobalt]

just a convenience

[frank bluff]

bro

[cobalt pier]

He's too ez

[frank bluff]

first permafrost's conc

and now this

[steep cobalt]

congratulations, now it's even more vapid

[amber elk]

yes

[cobalt pier]

He's less readable

[amber elk]

i hate deep diver

[steep cobalt]

fucking aggravating to hit

[frank bluff]

trust me more dash is better

[steep cobalt]

he's not threatening in this capacity

[frank bluff]

than better ram dash

[steep cobalt]

it's infuriating to put him 6 feets under

[cobalt pier]

In inf every dash has a 15frame cooldown but dd has the basecal 21

[steep cobalt]

[frank bluff]

oh what

[amber elk]

also adamantite pick is required to mine cryonic ore right?

[frank bluff]

i actually never knew that

[frank bluff]

yes

[steep cobalt]

i mean fair enough infernum ended development prior to deep diver's rework

[amber elk]

i like how im chatting while fighting him

[cobalt pier]

In basecal dashes have 30f cd starting at animation end

[cobalt pier]

Dd has 21

It's special

Inf reduces to 15 for balance but forgets dd

[frank bluff]

chat

[steep cobalt]

9 frames faster

[cobalt pier]

[frank bluff]

what boss will i die the most

[steep cobalt]

idk

[cobalt pier]

30% faster

[cobalt pier]

What run

[steep cobalt]

yes

[fossil topaz]

how the fuck do you dodge shadow cal

[steep cobalt]

scal took me 2 attempts as a summoner

[fossil topaz]

jesus christ man

[steep cobalt]

3 as melee

[neon stag]

Profaned guardians

[fossil topaz]

each time i try to dodge i get caught lacing

lsckign

fuck this man

[cobalt pier]

[frank bluff]

infernum mage

[steep cobalt]

7 prior to having a separate loadout for desperation

[cobalt pier]

Guards

[neon stag]

yeah profaned guardians definitely

[frank bluff]

rn the tittle still belongs to twins

[cobalt pier]

How

[neon stag]

How

[amber elk]

WAS THE LASER NECESSARY?

[steep cobalt]

how

[frank bluff]

i forgot lunic eye

[cobalt pier]

What

[frank bluff]

and no poseidon

[neon stag]

What

[amber elk]

aaand all the npcs are dead

[frank bluff]

and to top it off

[cobalt pier]

[neon stag]

I used flamelash for my twins kill

[frank bluff]

skillissue.mp4

it took me 12 attempts

[cobalt pier]

I mentioned earlier that i just use flamelash for twins to get rainbow rod

</3

[frank bluff]

while the 2nd most is at 4

[neon stag]

I simply didnt know what to use

[amber elk]

aaand hes dead

now what

[cobalt pier]

Same

[neon stag]

Icr if I told you but im like super new gen calamity player

[steep cobalt]

i suggest closing your pc

[frank bluff]

calclone

[neon stag]

I have 0 idea about whats good and whats not

[frank bluff]

D do be stalking

[cobalt pier]

I started cal on 12/11/2025

[amber elk]

hes the second mech lil bro

[neon stag]

[frank bluff]

just do calclone

trust me

[steep cobalt]

no one's stopping you from killing calclone earlier than intended

[frank bluff]

it's great for mage

[cobalt pier]

Im very new my taken are just unhinged

[amber elk]

beeeettttt

[frank bluff]

oh

wait

[steep cobalt]

eye of desolation is piss easy to craft

[frank bluff]

fuck

[cobalt pier]

Do you have rainbow rod

[frank bluff]

destroyer

[steep cobalt]

hellstone, soul of night

[cobalt pier]

Chat

You know what i love

[amber elk]

yes

[cobalt pier]

Farming aureus for crab banners

[cobalt pier]

Use it for Calclone

[neon stag]

huh

[cobalt pier]

It's like the #1 calshadow killer

[cobalt pier]

Gfb

[amber elk]

i still need to summon it brochaco

[neon stag]

Ah

[steep cobalt]

well

just craft it

it's cheap

[amber elk]

and uhh

im low on hellstone and essence

[cobalt pier]

He drops 1-9999 crab banners on death which grants luminite

[amber elk]

(ive never went to craigs yet)

[neon stag]

I dont think ive ever played gfb

[cobalt pier]

Don't

[neon stag]

Cuz its not infernum compactible

[cobalt pier]

Lowd loves to play gfb

[neon stag]

[amber elk]

whats gfb

[cobalt pier]

This is how you know it sucks cks

[frank bluff]

getfixedboi

[neon stag]

Lowd is also an insane motherfucker

[cobalt pier]

Im aware

[neon stag]

[frank bluff]

ngl

chat

should i do Fargo's AIW

to make it worse

[cobalt pier]

He added me and i feel like that should mean i'm unhinged to an extent

[frank bluff]

add calamity dlc to it

[cobalt pier]

[neon stag]

Lowd lowkey got me into infernum tho

[cobalt pier]

Im doing 2× speed inf true defiled dashless

[neon stag]

so I guess thats one thing

[vale heart]

wth is this

[neon stag]

I feel like dog might be impossible

[frank bluff]

infernum stuff iirc

[cobalt pier]

It's not lowds fault but we blame lowd

[neon stag]

Are you doing true 2x speed or fargos hypermode

[frank bluff]

hypermode

[vale heart]

ive never seen this before in infernum tho

[cobalt pier]

Fargos hyper

[frank bluff]

i never seen in on base calamity

[cobalt pier]

Enemy proj & enemies are 2× speed

[neon stag]

I dont think dog will be possible in that case

[cobalt pier]

True 2× wouldn't be hard

[frank bluff]

LOL

[neon stag]

When you get to him id love to see the clip of you beating dog

[cobalt pier]

I will not be able to record my laptop can barely handle recording BoC

[neon stag]

[cobalt pier]

I can give you a detailed explanation of how

If i do

[cobalt pier]

[frank bluff]

rip

[neon stag]

[cobalt pier]

I got like

The luckiest boc kill ever

[frank bluff]

more

[neon stag]

[cobalt pier]

#calamity-mod-talk message

[frank bluff]

anyways i go 11:17pm

[cobalt pier]

Look at this luck

[desert thunder]

plantera is lowkey pathetic on infernum

[frank bluff]

ok that's all i have

LOL THE TYPO

[cobalt pier]

[fluid flax]

bwaaa

[cobalt pier]

That's my entire list

[frank bluff]

[fluid flax]

[neon stag]

Okay yeah that really is 1 fps gaming

[cobalt pier]

Ok but look at the gamblecore

[fluid flax]

i love teto

[frank bluff]

ok that's the final one

[mighty haven]

Do you guys do the harder eternity mode bosses during the progression? Or do you come back later after gearing?

[cobalt pier]

Is that ado

[mighty haven]

Like im at empress of light with my friends right now

[cobalt pier]

No tier skips is my rule

Get gud or go home scrub

[neon stag]

no point in doing a challenge run if you end up just cheesing the hard bosses anyways

[mighty haven]

O ok, im in pre moon lord phase right now

And my friends too

[cobalt pier]

Some ppl do challenge runs vith wingslot

[fluid flax]

i choose go home

so i can sleeb

[cobalt pier]

Real

[frank bluff]

yes

[cobalt pier]

Her eng community pisses me off

[desert thunder]

and once again nohit weapon worked

idk whats wrong with them

[cobalt pier]

Work ≠ good

[neon stag]

I used to do challenge runs using alch npc potions

[neon stag]

[frank bluff]

THIS

[desert thunder]

whats a good weapon for plantera in your opinion

[frank bluff]

alch npc isn't that bad compared to wingslot

[cobalt pier]

Glorious end

[frank bluff]

wingslot is just a literal free accessory

[cobalt pier]

Alch npc in worse

[neon stag]

Alch npc is 10x worse

[cobalt pier]

Casual ppl when difficulty

[neon stag]

Stylish scissors

[frank bluff]

imo wingslot is worse

[cobalt pier]

It's objectively tot

[desert thunder]

used it in cal clone fight unironically

[cobalt pier]

Not*

[frank bluff]

but alchnpc is just

young brewer and brewer

like bro

[neon stag]

emphasis on alchnpc potions

[cobalt pier]

It's several free accessory slots

[neon stag]

^^^^

[frank bluff]

wait what

[cobalt pier]

Have you

Not uned alch npc

It's fucking atrocious

[amber elk]

alright

[frank bluff]

I'm going to remove alchnpc after knowing that

[amber elk]

calclone time

[fluid flax]

stickers

[cobalt pier]

Fire

[amber elk]

is she hard

[cobalt pier]

Incredibly fun to fight dogshit to nohit

[frank bluff]

not too hard

[neon stag]

Infernum only picks up in difficulty around post ml

[cobalt pier]

It's like exclusively guards & polter tbh

[neon stag]

fuck every phase of infernum cal clone

[neon stag]

Polter is easy tho 🥹

[cobalt pier]

Brothers is fine since it's scriptable

[cobalt pier]

I have trauma from 125× box ok

[amber elk]

WHY

[frank bluff]

wait alchnpc or alchnpclite

[neon stag]

The lil birbs attack and brothers is fine yeah

[frank bluff]

since i used alchnpc lite

[cobalt pier]

Lite = alch npc

[frank bluff]

a

[neon stag]

I had a 20 minute long polter fight during weaponless

[desert thunder]

what is that weapon

[frank bluff]

yeah removing alchnpc lite after this

[neon stag]

I hate polter

[cobalt pier]

Use prismas pristine potions

Similar mod - no infinite money exploit - no super cheaty potions

[amber elk]

rainbow rod

[uncut ocean]

what should i replace with the shattered community, if anything?

[cobalt pier]

Asgards can go tbh

[amber elk]

wdym by super cheaty potions

[neon stag]

Are you doing like max dps or what

[cobalt pier]

Anything that says "NON CALAMITY"

Is like

[neon stag]

An accessory

[cobalt pier]

[frank bluff]

wait so

[frank mauve]

destroyer emblem

[uncut ocean]

yeah pretty much lol

[frank bluff]

alchnpc adds

what's called again

[neon stag]

Destroyer emblem in that case

[frank bluff]

architect npc

[uncut ocean]

oki doki, thanks guys

[cobalt pier]

What's he sell

[frank bluff]

a lot

and uhhh

[cobalt pier]

Npecify

Blocks?

[frank bluff]

i can't

more than blocks

[frank mauve]

nah nvm drop warbanner, ur not gonna be close to the bosses alot

[uncut ocean]

but... im playing true melee...

i get close to bosses all the time

[neon stag]

A large variety of different building blocks, material blocks, furniture, crafting stations and miscellanious items such as torches

[frank mauve]

ohh then destroyer emblem

[uncut ocean]

yeah i'll do that

[frank bluff]

this

and you can just

unethical way to make money

[cobalt pier]

Prismas has
Bag shops/accessory shop/material shop/potion shop/block shop/potion shop 2/full cal support/arena stuff shop/qol shop/cal alcohol shop

All toggleable

[neon stag]

PPP is just a better alchnpc lite

[cobalt pier]

Yeah

[amber elk]

brothers phase lowk pmo

[cobalt pier]

Ppp + qot + cal = dream

[cobalt pier]

It's unironically the easiest

[amber elk]

whats qot

[nimble wing]

i still find her incredibly fun to nohit

[cobalt pier]

Quality oy terraria

[neon stag]

Quality of terraria

[amber elk]

what it do

[cobalt pier]

Google psych wards near me pls

[neon stag]

Quality of life

[nimble wing]

including with true melee, but much less including p3 in that case

[neon stag]

alot of toggleable features

[cobalt pier]

Every non-intrusive qol think able tbh

[cobalt pier]

Give me 800 toggles and a mod that does everything and I'll be happy

[nimble wing]

do mutant and nycro's count for that

[neon stag]

I lowkey use recipe browser, nycros , ore excavator and cheat sheet

sometimes I might use fargos mutant 🥹🥹

[cobalt pier]

Mutant no

[amber elk]

imma do ts later

[frank bluff]

ok i need that

[cobalt pier]

Mutant has like 6 toggles

[nimble wing]

no what it has dozens of toggles

[neon stag]

ppp is getting some big changes to it

[nimble wing]

you can completely remove all of the npcs if you want

[cobalt pier]

That sucks

I just want certain parts of npcs gone

[nimble wing]

like what

[cobalt pier]

I haven't played with fargos in 10 months

[frank mauve]

the npcs that kill bosses for me

[cobalt pier]

That's called alchnpclite

[onyx igloo]

So 50x boss health and 5x defense, what weapon should I start off with for the shadowspec weapon runs

[neon stag]

what

Theres no npc like that

[cobalt pier]

It's just Alch npc

I'm afraid

[neon stag]

[frank mauve]

[onyx igloo]

I might just go in order from class weapons

[nimble wing]

ascend the tierlist

[onyx igloo]

I'll start with Earth i guess

[nimble wing]

so your first weapon is apotheosis or earth

[onyx igloo]

Gimme a tierlist

[cobalt pier]

I do think i might do a DoT Infernum Playthrough sometime where i use ALL STATS SCALED to increase enemy defense by 100×

[onyx igloo]

Im specifically not using Apotheosis I can't see shit

[frank mauve]

sounds fun

[cobalt pier]

@neon stag i'm scared

[frank mauve]

[neon stag]

Theres multiple bosses in infernum that are pretty much immune to every debuff in the game

except for very few of em

[frank mauve]

just abuse shellfish

[cobalt pier]

Not 1 enemy is immune to Shellfish

[onyx igloo]

Starting off with Broken Earth

[neon stag]

Shellfish vs dog

[cobalt pier]

Yes

[onyx igloo]

I'll be using broken at the start of each run

[cobalt pier]

[frank mauve]

apparently itll only take 5 hours

[cobalt pier]

!!

[neon stag]

I would rather go eat rocks and sand than do shellfish only dog

[cobalt pier]

See this is why lowd says its fun

[neon stag]

-# me too

[onyx igloo]

What does shellfish

[cobalt pier]

It's dot

[onyx igloo]

OH WAIT THE MOLLUSKS

[neon stag]

The mollusk armor set bonus counts as a dot afaik

[frank mauve]

mollusk armor vs dog is going to be so fun

[onyx igloo]

yeah that'll be fun

[neon stag]

Yeah mollusk armor only dog…

[cobalt pier]

[cobalt pier]

There's also

Shellfish staff

For shellfish debuff

They share a debuff

[onyx igloo]

So I'm guessing the lower it is the worse it is?

[neon stag]

Thats what it seems like

[cobalt pier]

Yeah p much

[frank mauve]

oh true

that means no crippled movement

[cobalt pier]

So only like 30 minutes dog?

Not bad tbh

[frank mauve]

yeah it scales with summon damage anyway

[neon stag]

uhh

[cobalt pier]

Does it?

I thought it was just flat amount per shell

[frank mauve]

shellfish staff yes

[cobalt pier]

In it affected by spite candle

[neon stag]

okay dots only sounds remotely fun to me in that case

[frank mauve]

max out at 375 per sec but affected by summon damage

[cobalt pier]

So that's like5 i think

[neon stag]

I might do dot only infernum too in that case

[frank mauve]

its quite fun since u get to discover new ways to play the game

[cobalt pier]

Ok so

[frank mauve]

and the debuff page on the wiki is fun to read

[cobalt pier]

That's only like

9 minutes dog

Give or take

[neon stag]

What

[onyx igloo]

well I don't think you can inflict dot without doing direct damage

[neon stag]

Only 9 minutes

[frank mauve]

yeah that makes it too easy now

[onyx igloo]

At least for most dot

[cobalt pier]

He only has like

[neon stag]

9 minutes is like, nothing

[cobalt pier]

1.3m hp no?

[onyx igloo]

I think so

[frank mauve]

i thought 1.7

[cobalt pier]

Ok so 12:43

Expected kt

So like 14m

[frank mauve]

anything over 15min or 20min isnt that bad

[cobalt pier]

It should be 14~15 give or take

So

Reasonable

DoT only inf would unironically probably be shellfish stacker

I think ban shellfish unless required

[frank mauve]

i wonder if shellfish staff and mollusk armor stack

[cobalt pier]

Well mollusk has a lower base

But should

[frank mauve]

oh yeah ud be losing out on the extra summon damage

[cobalt pier]

That two

Too*

[frank mauve]

i was gonna do electricity only run

[cobalt pier]

Can't

I don't think you have an option starting weaponat all

Earliest i know of is post ds

Wait

[frank mauve]

u can in ftw

[cobalt pier]

Stomjaw

Ok

Stormjaw carry

[frank mauve]

i dont think it inflicts electrified

[cobalt pier]

How do you do Destro/Dog

[frank mauve]

yeah it doesnt

[onyx igloo]

Ugc?

[frank mauve]

i might just use twisting thunder lol

[onyx igloo]

I mean that's technically some kind of electrical current

[cobalt pier]

Not electric

[frank mauve]

needs eletrified debuff

galvanic corrosion is electric aswell

[onyx igloo]

oh so you're not using electric themed weapons only if they explicitly have said debuff

[cobalt pier]

lowd challenge

Recommends easy solution that is technical

[frank mauve]

yeah ill do it in legdeath to make it fun a bit

[onyx igloo]

Leg death doesn't sound fun to me

[frank mauve]

its ok ive beaten legdeath with repeaters only

[cobalt pier]

Lowd in definition of difficulty junky

Lowds friends seemingly are similar

[neon stag]

yeah its not a lowd run if it sounds fun at all

[frank mauve]

❌

[onyx igloo]

I mean masoftw was fun because I liked Fargo's, calamity difficulty isn't fun because it's calamity

[frank mauve]

i havent played cal in 3 days

need some practice

[cobalt pier]

Me & you will look at Smth think "that would fucking suck"

[neon stag]

Fraud

[cobalt pier]

Lowd will call it fun

We'd call something fun

Lowd cals it easy

Casual person calls something fun

[frank mauve]

yes

[cobalt pier]

We call it easy

[neon stag]

im ngl, the run youre doing rn doesnt necessarily sound fun to me

[cobalt pier]

Lowd question

[frank mauve]

[cobalt pier]

Does 2× speed Dashless true defiled exinf sound fun

[frank mauve]

depends on the rule

[onyx igloo]

I'd rather do masoftw again

[frank mauve]

if ur allowed hooks thats chill

[cobalt pier]

Hook but no rod/similar and no rippers

[frank mauve]

(im not doing this challenge whatsoever)

[onyx igloo]

Imagine dashing on accident and restarting the run

[cobalt pier]

Disso hook is fine

[frank mauve]

ball o chain

[cobalt pier]

Default Dash ≠ dash

Imho

[neon stag]

I still want to see how youre going to do dog

[cobalt pier]

Probably disso or bobbit pogo

[neon stag]

maybe some kind of hook of dissoinance setup?

[frank mauve]

dog is acc really easy if ur not doing the rampage ai

[onyx igloo]

Id still rather do masoftw

[cobalt pier]

Oh right we get coil dog don't we

[onyx igloo]

And that sucked

[neon stag]

ive only done 2x speed dog with ram dash AI

so im not sure how hard it exactly is

if you have enough time to bobbit hook it sounds doable

[frank mauve]

yeah and in 2x speed he coils by himself

[cobalt pier]

[frank mauve]

dont forget ur on defiled

[cobalt pier]

I have ff

[frank mauve]

id say use static hook while ur coiling or some

[neon stag]

Featherfall potion umbrella

[frank mauve]

right featherfall is allowed smh

too easy

banned

[neon stag]

it should let you glide for long enough cuz 2x speed dog coils dont last long

[cobalt pier]

Was the idea if disso/featherbobbit wasn't needed

[hazy cairn]

Opinion guys, Solar set or Intergalactic for melee

[frank mauve]

i dont use featherfall anymore

[onyx igloo]

For pre prov yea

[frank mauve]

👎

[onyx igloo]

Intergel

[cobalt pier]

Ok that's evil

[frank mauve]

is it really defiled if ur flying with ff

[neon stag]

No featherfall is rough

[cobalt pier]

Solar

[onyx igloo]

But if you don't want intergelactic gear for being too strong you can ditch it

[cobalt pier]

Ok but hear me out

[hazy cairn]

Hmm

[cobalt pier]

I was gonna do true defiled regardless

Literally every run i do is true defined with feather cause i find it more fun

[frank mauve]

wait howd u do yharon

[onyx igloo]

Do an odd mushroom Nilk run on infernjm

[cobalt pier]

I can't run wotg

[cobalt pier]

I haven't got that far

[frank mauve]

i have an idea

[cobalt pier]

Rn i'm at 1/2 evil 2

[frank mauve]

parries!

[cobalt pier]

Evil !

But no, mage lock

[onyx igloo]

Either way your computer would probably gain sentience and kill itself if it had to run Shroomed nilk

[frank mauve]

u dont even get to use sergeant shield?!?

[cobalt pier]

No

[frank mauve]

ig u could do yharon by spamming bobbit hook and pogo

[onyx igloo]

Wait if base dash isn't a dash then solar armor dash buff should be allowed right?

[cobalt pier]

FeatherBobbitPogo

[cobalt pier]

Uh

Will it proc on default?

[frank mauve]

right u do have ff

[cobalt pier]

Idk

I'm not cringe melee uner

[frank mauve]

what if

[cobalt pier]

I run mage

Mage my beloved

[frank mauve]

u fill ur whole world with water and u use uhhh

[cobalt pier]

Shark?

[neon stag]

-# I main melee :c

[cobalt pier]

I respect it

I couldn't ever

[neon stag]

Lava shark

[onyx igloo]

I really don't main anything, but I'd never play summoner unironically anymore

[frank mauve]

inner tube...

[cobalt pier]

I main "confusing randoms"

[onyx igloo]

I usually just use what I like the most or have a weapon restriction run

[neon stag]

I liked summoner in my very grand 2 infernum runs

vile feeder got an actually decent kill time on plantera

[onyx igloo]

It's fun to speedkill but it's more fun to fight the boss

[cobalt pier]

See this would just be veering wind -> gamblecore -> flame lash -> gamblecore but orange -> rainbow rod -> stellar tune -> last prism -> nuclear fury -> subsuming vortex

[neon stag]

I used weapons about 2-3 tiers below my progression stage

just to nerf myself

I did swap to speed kill builds for end game cuz I got bored of summoner

[cobalt pier]

This is how i feel when ppl say Brittle star isn't good past evil 2 and i pull up this [give me a minute]

[onyx igloo]

reasonable

[onyx igloo]

I used vile feeder on leviathan

During my cosmic immaterializer run

It took a while but it was still nice I guess

Exos still took a while just using what I had

[neon stag]

vile feeder felt better than some on tier weapon options for plantera

[cobalt pier]

Do you know why

I know why

[neon stag]

[onyx igloo]

Vile Feeder is a ripoff Scourge so I think it's justified

[cobalt pier]

The best summon for plantera is cryogenic staff

[neon stag]

I meant across all classes

[cobalt pier]

Oh

[frank mauve]

better than slime staff on tier

[neon stag]

I would rather use vile feeder than biome blade for example

[onyx igloo]

Well biome Blade sucks

[cobalt pier]

Ok so that test was done on 2× hp sadly

The slime stayf one

[frank mauve]

nooo

[cobalt pier]

It's over 22m on eoc

Dw

It placed so bad I didn't even list it

Cnidarian is 19'33 on 2× hp

[onyx igloo]

well eye of Cthulhu is impossible to hit with anything

[cobalt pier]

I play in a hyper aggressive way t optimise my minion for test

[cobalt pier]

Anyway did you know pearlwood bow is good

[neon stag]

It gets a pretty good kill time on AS

I like the pearlwood bow

[cobalt pier]

Inf pmo because their worm buff made sparkling empress literally F tier

[tender kernel]

is heart of elements actually good pre ML cuz it says to use them for summoner on the wiki

[neon stag]

no

[cobalt pier]

7.5 h/s is good

Otherwise it's like

Ok

[tender kernel]

oh ok

[neon stag]

the damage is ass

[cobalt pier]

Better than clump

[neon stag]

the healing is also not as good as you would think since you have to actually go out of your way to pick them up yourself

[cobalt pier]

No u dont

Run heartreach

[neon stag]

Does heartreach pot work on rare sand elemental heal orbs

[cobalt pier]

Yes

[neon stag]

It works?

[cobalt pier]

It works on sienna too

[neon stag]

okay, even then thats all you really get

Like +200-300dps and 7.5hp/s

Better than the community atleast

[cobalt pier]

7.5h/s independent of Regen limit is respectable

[waxen tide]

its like okay with summoner and thats about it

[cobalt pier]

What isn't

[cobalt pier]

It's actually best on rogue

[neon stag]

[cobalt pier]

[waxen tide]

it scales with summon damage though

[cobalt pier]

Technically

It scales with rogue stealth too

[waxen tide]

ig

still more worth it with summoner

[cobalt pier]

No

[neon stag]

No

[waxen tide]

buh

[cobalt pier]

It's just like

Not

[summer bloom]

yo chat what are the best addons for calamity

[waxen tide]

overhaul

[neon stag]

Overhaul

[cobalt pier]

It's recommended on summoner because summoner has the highest expected average % damage boost

[narrow coral]

what a calamity

[summer bloom]

doesnt it like corrupts peoples worlds....

[cobalt pier]

And more

[summer bloom]

whats more...

[cobalt pier]

[waxen tide]

it only corrupts frauds worlds

[neon stag]

Read pinned

[narrow coral]

clearly they mean terraria overhaul

[neon stag]

I would genuinely rather use cal overhaul than terraria overhaul

Although both of them suck ass

[narrow coral]

💥

[cobalt pier]

At some point i think calhaul will just steal everyone's data to train an AI & install crypto miners to everyone's pc

[narrow coral]

the dynamic camera is so cool tho

[cobalt pier]

It's so fucking ass

If it fucks with my camera at all i want it killed

[summer bloom]

it says some bad words about calamity overhaul...

[neon stag]

Just use the occult skull crown bro

[narrow coral]

fair enough

[neon stag]

Makes it the best mod ever

[cobalt pier]

[narrow coral]

my brain likes the funny camera movements

[summer bloom]

i dont know what that is

[neon stag]

-# cv

[cobalt pier]

When my camera moves i have a mental breakdown

[cobalt pier]

It's a toggle

[summer bloom]

so what should i install alongside with calamity?

[cobalt pier]

Ppp qot oe

[neon stag]

infernum, wrath of the gods and some qol.

[narrow coral]

hunt of the peak god

[summer bloom]

what

[cobalt pier]

Wotg is only for mid-high end PC

[neon stag]

Prismas pristine potions, quality of terraria and ore excavator.

[neon stag]

I have an extremely high end pc and I lag

[cobalt pier]

Yeah

[narrow coral]

truly wrathful...

[cobalt pier]

Do you want to know my laptop specs

[summer bloom]

i mean my pc is good

do i install wrath of the gods

[neon stag]

sure

[neon stag]

Yes

[cobalt pier]

Hot take btw

Niconico is better than yt

[summer bloom]

what about infernum

[cobalt pier]

Easy to run

[neon stag]

bro I use bilibili

/j

[cobalt pier]

I have bilibili for speedruns

[neon stag]

ive had to use bilibili for tutorials on some chinese mmorpgs

[naive sundial]

quick question does wrath of the gods work multiplayer yet?

[cobalt pier]

Does terraria multiplayer

No

[narrow coral]

so real

[cobalt pier]

Gpu: Amd radeon 610m
Cpu: amd ryzen 5 7520u
8gb ddr4 with 2800mhz

A shitty 1080p lcd

[neon stag]

8gb

[cobalt pier]

2800mhz

[neon stag]

[neon stag]

I have 48 gigs of ddr5 ram

[cobalt pier]

My system (idle) uses 81% of it

[neon stag]

oof…

[cobalt pier]

If i turn frame skip off/frame skip subtle i go from 60 fps to 8~15

[neon stag]

@frank mauve what do you think about my new challenge idea

Calamity infernum mode but I only use loadouts recommended to me in calcord

[cobalt pier]

No no

Loadouts from redit

And calcord randoms

[neon stag]

I think I would rather use chatgpt than ask for advice in calcord

[neon stag]

Well this depends on who you consider randoms

Ive seen some horrible takes here even from calamity devs

[cobalt pier]

Ok so i just asked a ranger setup for signus

[neon stag]

[cobalt pier]

Demonshade armour
Beegun
Sniper scope
Amberaegis
The community
Cross necklace
Honey balloon (for bee synergy)
Godslayer boosters
Ranger emblem

It recommends arcane

And sharpening station

[neon stag]

did you do a deep search or just the normal gpt4 engine

[cobalt pier]

I'm not wasting more water than i must

[cobalt pier]

Vhat does that mod even do

[neon stag]

[neon stag]

I actually have 0 clue

[cobalt pier]

Anyway it also said that vortex boots can be used for more damage than demonshande

Specifically the boots

You should run this

[neon stag]

seems valid to me, considering ive seen people recommend absorber for a dog no-hit

[cobalt pier]

[cobalt pier]

I'm gonna recommend cross necklace for nohit

[neon stag]

using demonshade alone would be enough for signus

[cobalt pier]

It's 2p demonshade

1p vortex boots

[neon stag]

Ive started recommending omniscience potion to people I dont like.

[cobalt pier]

I play on a black painted arena background so i unironically use omni

[neon stag]

do you like, use wisp dye to make yourself more visible or do you just like the clear background

[dense eagle]

imo it needs "calamity" in its name

otherwise people who needs it wont notice this mod

[cobalt pier]

I use shine+night owl

[neon stag]

shine + night owl is such a goated combo

[cobalt pier]

I don't need to look at my character usually to dodge, i dodge with the camera

[neon stag]

especially for early game exploration

[dense eagle]

until the camera stops xd

[cobalt pier]

Is it weird i dodge with camera not with character

[cobalt pier]

What

[dense eagle]

i usually do that too

[dense eagle]

world border

[neon stag]

Not really

[cobalt pier]

I fight bosses in a 244×150 box

There's a wall border

[dense eagle]

nah

[frank mauve]

did u know its upgraded into a magic bow

[neon stag]

I want to do a challenge where I limit myself to like a 50x50 box for phm, 75x75 for hardmode and 150x150 for post ml

some bosses might be hard to implement tho

like guardians and wof

[cobalt pier]

I didn't

[frank mauve]

and if its an off tier loadout u have to find a way to get it anyway

[cobalt pier]

150×150 is not something you should do

I did everything in 125²

Wof is use slick cane

[frank mauve]

yeah its just a better rainbow gun

[neon stag]

doesnt sound too bad

[cobalt pier]

150² is like

Easy tbh

I'd do like

[frank mauve]

do 50x50 for everything

[neon stag]

How would I dodge scal blender and or dsp

[cobalt pier]

50×50 -> 75×75 -> 100×100

[cobalt pier]

Dsp?

Oh desp

Disso hook

[neon stag]

yeah 100x100 does seem interesting

[frank mauve]

or rod

[cobalt pier]

Ew

[neon stag]

50x50 is just no

[cobalt pier]

Only issue i see is wof being impossible

In 50×50

[neon stag]

is it REALLY impossible in 50x50 tho

[frank mauve]

disso hook is a glorified rod lets be fair

[cobalt pier]

It's got limits

[neon stag]

Only my movement is limited to the 50x50, not the boss itself

[cobalt pier]

Slick cane needs 2 perfectly lined up stealth hitn

[neon stag]

As wof spawns off screen always, that gives me a bunch of time to deal as much damage as I can

[cobalt pier]

Or 3 decent stealth hits

[frank mauve]

farm adren and rage in advance

[cobalt pier]

So lets do 2

First in froe

[cobalt pier]

Cheater nmh

[frank mauve]

🤫

slick cane is already op enough

why not make it more op

[neon stag]

Can we ban bro

[frank mauve]

❌

[neon stag]

I dont think that would be enough

even if I get the perfect lineup to hit all 4 eyes and one shot them, can slick cane really 100 to 0 the mouth

[cobalt pier]

It hits mouth -> top eye -> mouth -> bottom eye

Oh right inf

Right

[neon stag]

I sometimes forget that people actually play basecal

[cobalt pier]

I haven't fought wof in this world i have 110h on

[neon stag]

satanist mode?

[cobalt pier]

Aiw

• 2× inf mage true defiled/dashless/etc

I can't call a bosn deod unless it drops the trophy

[neon stag]

aiw?

[cobalt pier]

All item world

[neon stag]

Ahh

[cobalt pier]

Shocker

There's a lot

[cobalt pier]

Eyes don't contrib to the boss bar btw

So you can ignore eyes

[neon stag]

im aware

[cobalt pier]

Give wef rdr

Wof*

[narrow coral]

wall of fish

🐟
🐟
🐟

[neon stag]

wall of old duke

[elder nebula]

hell

[silent linden]

struggling on infernum exos. i'm mage doing atermis/apollo + ares start

i specifically continue to get hit by apollo's rockets during the ares spin move and have no idea how to dodge them. i can never see them until its too late. i can clearly see they're coming out from behind him while moving, but he's almost always off screen, and using the fullscreen map is too distracting. is there something i'm missing that makes them easier to see? that attack is singlehandedly what is both popping the silva revive and keeping me from getting adrenaline and speeding through thanatos

anyone have any advice for that specific move

[neon stag]

I would watch a no-hit video of exos and just copy what they do in the video

[silent linden]

i am and it has helped for everything but that attack

[slim quarry]

i cant damage BOC in inferum

[main stump]

wdym

[neon stag]

[main stump]

like is BOC immortal for you or are you just missing

[slim quarry]

immortal

[main stump]

i think you HAVE to fight them closer to the crimson

[slim quarry]

let me find out rq

god damnit

your right

[main stump]

i honestly wasnt sure cuz i always fight BoC underground

ive never fought him outside the crimson i didnt know he was immortal

[onyx igloo]

7 fucking minutes on skeletron using earth

Queen Bee will be fun

[onyx igloo]

That's only for base cal, in Fargo's DLC if you use the special summon item added with the DLC for calamity bosses, you can spawn them anywhere usually

Well base cal and infernum

Which I love personally

[halcyon cape]

radiance or chalice better for endgame infernum/wotg

[neon stag]

Radiance is better

by a mile

[frank mauve]

by a mies

[neon stag]

[gloomy wedge]

I don’t see a scenario where you wouldn’t be using both honestly

[neon stag]

chalice is mid

Its not good for post game

[gloomy wedge]

I used it for everything except nd personally

[neon stag]

Everyone has their own preferences and there isnt really any item that is best or set in stone, how good accessories are also vary based on synergies between the rest of your build.

Overall, chalice is comparably weaker than other end game defensive accessories but if it works better than the rest for you then use it

[gloomy wedge]

Fair

[onyx igloo]

The people who use rampart

-# also known as me

Radiance and Rampart over chalice any day for me

whoops

[dreamy geyser]

fucking fire tornados on yharon might aswell be harder then the boss

[frank bluff]

wild

[dreamy geyser]

fuck yharon

genuienly harder then DoG 10x

[neon stag]

how about no

[dreamy geyser]

i wouldnt either

[lean coral]

pls help

twin

[frank mauve]

twies help them

[lean coral]

someone plss help me

[stray badger]

for inf lunatic cultist is it better to play spam or stealth rogue

im thinking its stealth bc i can barely hit with spam

[onyx igloo]

got it

2.6m wof is crazy ngl

[frank mauve]

only 1:30

is this even a challenge anymore

[onyx igloo]

Itll be soon

100x health endgame bosses

But it's not really supposed to be

It's supposed to be fun

[frank bluff]

isn't bee gun a mage weapon

[cobalt pier]

Yes

[frank bluff]

then why are you doing ranger build

[cobalt pier]

The context is available in that convo

[smoky dock]

real

i wonder if there’s ChatGPT integration yet i need ChatGPT to read to me

[frank bluff]

I'm being fr

i have no idea

[neon stag]

the context is that the build was made by chatgpt

Not dizzy.

[frank bluff]

💀

wild

i might bring back my beloved bee guns back after golem

[spice stag]

whats best yharon ranger weapon

infernum

[frank bluff]

imma be honest

for infernum i have no idea

[frank bluff]

-# @cobalt pier help

[cobalt pier]

You play mage

Idk ranger

[neon stag]

Starmageddon is good

[frank bluff]

idk ranger too for infernum

i was about to say phangasm

based on my previous playthrough

[neon stag]

If you want to use a gun use starmageddon, if you want to use a bow I guess phangasm.

[twilit flint]

in the catalyst mod, how long is the Astral's End viable for until there are better options?

[cobalt pier]

Probably polter