calamity-addon-talk

[remote marten]

iirc balancing between lucky and menacing gets a bit more damage

[maiden cobalt]

for example, 50% crit chance means a 1/2 to double damage

[hearty agate]

also im i tripping or does terraria/calamity hjave a bug where i get stuck on godly modifer

[maiden cobalt]

no thats intended

[hearty agate]

xause i need legendery

[maiden cobalt]

if it has godly, it doesnt get legendary iirc

[remote marten]

like with low crit lucky gives more boost but at high crit menacing better

[hearty agate]

whats iirc

[molten quail]

lucky also increases your luck slightly in calamity

[maiden cobalt]

if i recall correctly

[pearl shoal]

if I recall correctly

[molten quail]

tbh its pronbably negligible tho

[hearty agate]

oh

[pearl shoal]

if we had vanilla luck mechanics it would not be negligible at all

[hearty agate]

welp 2000 platinum

im broke

[remote marten]

damage randomization not affected by luck in cal

[molten quail]

oh calamity changes how luck works?

ah

thats a wiki page for another time

[pearl shoal]

but no, we already experienced em due to a certain cursed 🎲

[neon stag]

Ambrosial ampoule for yharon is diabolical

Is this infernum?

[maiden cobalt]

i used it

yes

[neon stag]

Yeah ampoule is ass for yharon

please dont recommend it hes gonna actually believe its good

[frank mauve]

atp use bloodflare core

[maiden cobalt]

dude i used levi ambergris. im mentally deranged

[frank mauve]

😂

[maiden cobalt]

dont you diss my goat

[waxen tide]

ampoule is fine

[maiden cobalt]

that guy is my nanomachines

[hearty agate]

whats this ambroiosiol amuple

[neon stag]

Thats like saying the camper is good for providence

[waxen tide]

??

[neon stag]

For yharon?? 😭🙏

[pearl shoal]

yep especially when at that tier you have OD scales

[maiden cobalt]

boosts your regen the lower your health, from +2 to +6 depending on health amount

also provides other regenerative stats

[hearty agate]

oh thats buns

[maiden cobalt]

what do you mean

[maiden cobalt]

... disgusting.

[neon stag]

+2 to +5 with so some slight added benefits

[pearl shoal]

Wait ambrosial ampoule?

[maiden cobalt]

mhm

[hearty agate]

regen is so unneeded

[pearl shoal]

nah that thing is goated vs Yhar

fire debuff resistance

[hearty agate]

for a whole accessorie slot

[waxen tide]

I mean tbh inf yharon doesnt dragonfire much but its not the worst thing either so

[maiden cobalt]

especially since you can stand still to gain absolutely nutty regen

[neon stag]

dont use warding for yharon dont fall for the bait

[remote marten]

its what senator armstrong used to get 4 healthbars

[hearty agate]

THATS WHAT IM SAYIN

[maiden cobalt]

when second phase rolls around (like when it starts up) you can just stand still and heal up

[pearl shoal]

do use warding vs exo mechs tho (unless nohit)

[molten quail]

regen is great

[neon stag]

warding falls of after providenence its not good for yharon

[hearty agate]

then yharon (truck) proceeds to hit me (deer) for 873

[maiden cobalt]

like ive found myself (as soon as it cuts to Yharon fading out) completely cutting all input

[maiden cobalt]

where the FUCK are you getting 873

he hits you for 350 max

[hearty agate]

my keyboard

[pearl shoal]

Warding is still great stuff is doing too much dmg for it to be worth in inf

unless its exo mechs

[pearl shoal]

wait how are you taking >700 in a single hit

[neon stag]

Can you explain to me, and tell me why warding is good for exos? Ive never heard anybody recommend it

[maiden cobalt]

thats what im saying

[hearty agate]

idk

[maiden cobalt]

whats your difficulty

infernum death ?

[hearty agate]

one time he did 21000 damage

so thats goated

[maiden cobalt]

....?

to. to you??

[remote marten]

u prob enraged hin

[pearl shoal]

Mainly the twin’s projectiles, some of Ares’ projectiles too, helps a lot to reduce their dmg

[hearty agate]

y e s

[maiden cobalt]

did you leave the fire walls?

[molten quail]

boy fighting vanilla daytime eol

[hearty agate]

i do not know

after phase 2 he decided i wasnt worth his time

[neon stag]

I think that warding is the best accessory all the way until providence dont get me wrong, its just not good for dog or yharon. It wont save you from an extra hit

[hearty agate]

and spat on my face and killed me

[maiden cobalt]

okay when you spawn, do not fly up but straight fly sideways until you hit a wall

[hearty agate]

i simply wasnt worthy

[maiden cobalt]

it should be a gigantic flame pillar

[pearl shoal]

thats enraged

[maiden cobalt]

you cannot, under any circumstances, leave those

[pearl shoal]

yea vs contact dmg warding does jackshit in inf

[hearty agate]

yes sticker i definitely havent noticed any flame walls during yharon 👍

[maiden cobalt]

idk it kept me mostly alive

[pearl shoal]

vs Projectiles its still good to have, most of the defensive bonuses are from accessories tho

[maiden cobalt]

okay so thats how it did 26000 damage and also likely the 870

[neon stag]

Not really the type of explanation I was expecting, I still dont understand could you go into some more detail here? Why is warding better than the extra crit chance?

[maiden cobalt]

idk full warding let me tank two hits

[hearty agate]

im being sarcastic

i mean the damage thing no

i wasnt

the wall yes

[maiden cobalt]

you're probably fine gearwise

[pearl shoal]

You cant kill the boss if you are dead, it allows you to have more chances to come back due to the increased tankiness and living more hits than you should

[maiden cobalt]

just go do the fight

[hearty agate]

ill try but the essence flayers homing is pretty weak

[maiden cobalt]

he dashes into them

[hearty agate]

touche

[maiden cobalt]

aim where he is directionally, not at him

you kinda just want a pool of them

[onyx igloo]

Bro my luck is insane

[hearty agate]

alr bet

[neon stag]

from my experience warding wont really let you survive enough hits for it to be a worth trade off for anything post providence (except polter)

[hearty agate]

this thumb meta finna be the end of yharon

[onyx igloo]

Gold Bunny, Extractor, Hermes Boots, and enough Platinum to make a pickaxe in night 1

[neon stag]

I guess we just have different opinions and preferences, cant really do much about that

[maiden cobalt]

full warding, i tank two yharon slams

against DoG you go lucky, no questions asked

[neon stag]

Full lucky, I survive 2 yharon slamd

[maiden cobalt]

you die to a 900 damage headshot

[maiden cobalt]

at 100 health or at like 2

[neon stag]

as I said, warding wont let you take anymore hits against yharon than lucky

[hearty agate]

also im i the only one who just never touches my normality relocator?

[maiden cobalt]

i used it a bit

[hearty agate]

i havcent used it once in a fight

[neon stag]

Its cuz you dont need it

[hearty agate]

not even profaned guardians

[pearl shoal]

5 warding w tank build helps a lot vs exos, without warding i cant beat em, the other 2 i use lucky, menacing or silent depending on class

[burnt trail]

i used it for like 2 fights

[frank mauve]

warding more like noorbing

[neon stag]

Infernum is built around bullet hell attack patterns with every attack having a clear way to dodge them

Using teleports is just cheese imo

[hearty agate]

welp goodluck to me guys ima try this then gym then bed so pray i gett it

goodnight twins <3

[pearl shoal]

My exos rogue build is essentially:
Wings
Dash
Sponge
Rampart
Chalice
Mirror
Nanotech

[frank mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/unique-ai-terraria-terraria-calamity-gif-22727304

[pearl shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/unique-ai-terraria-calamity-mod-gif-25170572

[frank mauve]

isnt aegis a dash

[maiden cobalt]

what is the draw for chalice

[pearl shoal]

wait uhh rampart

[maiden cobalt]

i really do not get its appeal

[frank mauve]

rampart is nice

[maiden cobalt]

every time i get hit i basically insta die from the debuff

[pearl shoal]

Allows you to survive longer by turning dmg into a debuff

[maiden cobalt]

even if i down a healpot

[pearl shoal]

thats weird

[maiden cobalt]

the debuff is scaling though

[frank mauve]

so even if u didnt have the bleed effect ud die 🤔

[maiden cobalt]

no im pretty confident i can survive one yharon p1 s1 attack

i got hit once, heal potted and still died to it

[frank mauve]

so why are u healing after 1 hit

[maiden cobalt]

i have been told by literally everyone to heal immediately after being hit

[pearl shoal]

thats a lie (unless contact dmg)

[maiden cobalt]

like actually literally every single chalice user has said "heal after being hit"

[frank mauve]

hmm

do u have that chalice mod

[maiden cobalt]

?

[neon stag]

the core function of Chalice is that you Can Not heal after the 1st hit ever or you jsut wasted literally half your potion and still took around half the damage after

[pearl shoal]

Purity is a nice alternative to one of the defensive accessories, you could also use Spectral veil if you want instead

[maiden cobalt]

:)

[neon stag]

bone reaper, just now^^^

[maiden cobalt]

okay so why has everyone told me that

[frank mauve]

hey i know who said this

[hearty agate]

I DID IT I SURVIVED MY FIRST SPAM DASH AGAINST YHARON

[frank mauve]

🔥

[maiden cobalt]

heyy there you go

[neon stag]

No you dont

[neon stag]

Cuz theyre stupid

[hearty agate]

seriously thats legendery thank you

[frank mauve]

[hearty agate]

fuckin love yous

[maiden cobalt]

tetanus joe has told me this

[hearty agate]

back to grinding

[maiden cobalt]

who else told me this.

cog i think told me this

[frank mauve]

what about doze

[maiden cobalt]

i think they've told me to do so

[frank mauve]

hes like the number 1 chalice endorser

wait whats the word

[neon stag]

Glaze?

[frank mauve]

oops

[neon stag]

Oh endorse

[maiden cobalt]

i just never use it since i automatically get obliterated when i try and use it and get obliterated when i dont notice it

i dont wanna play operation while i play my video game

[neon stag]

Cuz chalice isnt good

[waxen tide]

[smoky dock]

real

i used to be a chalice hater but now I’m more of a chalice :/-er

[neon stag]

Its just mid

id rather use charm of myths and blood pact separately than chalice

[maiden cobalt]

why does everyone suggest i use it

[maiden cobalt]

people say that combo is hot dogshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[neon stag]

Cuz everyone has different preferences and opinions about accessories

[maiden cobalt]

which is it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

which one, STATISTICALLY, keeps me not dead for longerer

[remote marten]

use whichever isnmore fun for u

[waxen tide]

use frog leg

[maiden cobalt]

i have the most fun when i cleave the opponent in twain

[smoky dock]

no reliable data exists

[neon stag]

People also say the absorber is good and that relic of convergence is one of the best items to use since it lets you do extremely sharp micro movements

[smoky dock]

make your own data

[maiden cobalt]

absorber is goated

i <3 reneraga

[smoky dock]

all hail the regeneraga sphere

[neon stag]

but its just worse than alot of other defensive options.

[smoky dock]

killing you

[waxen tide]

what other defensive options

[maiden cobalt]

snapping you in half longwise

[neon stag]

as I said, people have different opinions on accessories and preferences there isnt any universal ”best” accessories/builds/combinations of them

[maiden cobalt]

just letting you know

[remote marten]

not dying is a peak defensive option

[neon stag]

just use whatever you feel like is the strongest for you

[smoky dock]

ultimately you just need to USE SHIT and see what happens

[waxen tide]

tru..

use frog leg

[maiden cobalt]

i dont have a list of usable shit though....

class setups is not consistant . do not suggest that i know of it

[smoky dock]

You have no way of telling if something mentioned here is accurate, 100% flawed, or intentional misinformation

[frank mauve]

yk what does

testing urself

[maiden cobalt]

i do not have a list!

[smoky dock]

Just about anything is worth considering

[neon stag]

Just slap on shit from the class setups

[maiden cobalt]

i do not hae ze number!

[frank mauve]

u can do the boss fights with ur own custom loadout!

[hearty agate]

skip yharon and exo mechs and go straight to scal? whos with me

[frank mauve]

and see which isbgood

[maiden cobalt]

i do not know what item! in game! provides the option! i need! outside of just looking at their words!

[smoky dock]

I used a shitty hardmode accessory for my fastest DoG kill

[waxen tide]

you cant skip yharon

[hearty agate]

how come

[neon stag]

if its on tier, its most likely viable. If its on class setups, its like an 80% chance its viable

[smoky dock]

Go to your Recipe Browser

[maiden cobalt]

their words! are lying quite often!

[smoky dock]

Select items

[frank mauve]

ah yes toxic shart

[neon stag]

Need auric for crafting stations iirc

[smoky dock]

Then filter by accessory

Sort by rarity

[maiden cobalt]

i did that! the item that worked was from anahita!

[smoky dock]

Lower down items will generally be better

[maiden cobalt]

i do not have the time to scan through accessories and test every single one!

[frank mauve]

then use it

[hearty agate]

dont you just need to kill clone and use an alter to spawn her so i dont neeed auric?

[neon stag]

Then use it lol

[maiden cobalt]

i already did! i am speaking post-morterm!

[waxen tide]

altar uses auric bars

[neon stag]

We just told u to use whatever works for u

[smoky dock]

Then just look at them and judge the vibe

[hearty agate]

oh

[smoky dock]

If an item’s vibes are doodoo it’ll probably not work

[hearty agate]

you can really tell im dogshit at calamity

[dusty cobalt]

Why even skip yharon that sounds boring

[maiden cobalt]

the vibe of chalice is that i have to keep my health high by keeping the bleed consistant

[dusty cobalt]

:<

[hearty agate]

cause challenge

[maiden cobalt]

however the practice of chalice is that it insta gibs me

[smoky dock]

there are people who claim to be experts that are worse than you

[hearty agate]

thats why people skip no?

[smoky dock]

You’re doing fine

[smoky dock]

If you die with Chalice, you would have died anyways without Chalice

[maiden cobalt]

no it really does not feel that way .

[waxen tide]

but its true

[smoky dock]

Chalice will do a grand total of fuckshit nothing unless you’re using your potions to cancel the bleed effect

[halcyon imp]

is this loadout for prov bad or am i the problem? i think 12 different cooldown based survivability buffs is a bit low but alas couldn't find more

[hearty agate]

agreed seeing your health bleed instead of instantly taken away feels more like a debuff then anything

[maiden cobalt]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

knowing that i die to that vs just. dying

[hearty agate]

also takes away focus but thats prob cause i aint locked

[remote marten]

i am an expert at sounding like i know what im doing at school presentations

[dusty cobalt]

I used to like it but it just felt weird over a while

[waxen tide]

I would use astral armor ngl

[smoky dock]

Chalice is really like, weird

Sometimes people like it

Sometimes people don’t

[halcyon imp]

also deadshot feels ultra useless with superradiant slaughterer but like what even else is there to equip

[smoky dock]

It’s not like it’s the only defensive option on tier

[hearty agate]

does the bleed literally do anything?

[dusty cobalt]

Swapping to just use rampart instead worked better 4 me

[hearty agate]

or just there to fuck with you

[waxen tide]

absorber

[smoky dock]

It gives you the opportunity to cancel the damage via drinking a potion

[maiden cobalt]

lihzahrd

it doesnt

cancel

it just doesnt cancel

thats the issue

[waxen tide]

it halves

[molten quail]

it cancels half of the bleed

[maiden cobalt]

that doesnt cancel

[hearty agate]

i can cancel the damage either way with a healing potion

WHATS THE POINT

[maiden cobalt]

i still die to it even AFTER i pot

[smoky dock]

You heal AND you reduce the bleed

[molten quail]

^

[maiden cobalt]

i get hit, move a bit, heal the damage, and then bleed out

[hearty agate]

okay let me give you a situation

[smoky dock]

(double effective)

[remote marten]

also i think ur regen timer doesnt get reset when being hit with chalice but i could be misinformed

[waxen tide]

that means you took TOO much damage!

[smoky dock]

(times two)

[maiden cobalt]

while in a condition that would not have killed me

[hearty agate]

your 500 hp and lose 100 and heal for 100 what health you at

[smoky dock]

Umm, 500 probably

[maiden cobalt]

i did not take more than 800 damage in a single hit i dont think! i took 300 from a single slam

[halcyon imp]

ngl what makes the absorber this good? like every playthru i get it reccomended and i use it but i never really understood why, the descrition doesn't look all that good

[hearty agate]

yes so the bleed is pointless

[smoky dock]

The bleed is like

[halcyon imp]

and ngl i don't even know if running a dash for provi is the play

[hearty agate]

unless im just

dumb

[frank mauve]

😱

[molten quail]

ok heres a scenario, youre at 500 hp and you take 600 damage with chalice, when youre at 200 health you drink a healing potion

[waxen tide]

then you wouldnt have died!

[smoky dock]

You have 800 HP, take 500, potion for 300, then you have 900 HP or something

[hearty agate]

im at -100 health

[molten quail]

you'd probably live that 600 damage hit with chalice

[maiden cobalt]

but i did.

twice.

[hearty agate]

im fucking in the grave

[smoky dock]

Absorber just foes a LOT of things at once

[molten quail]

not with chalice tho!

[waxen tide]

that means you took too much damage!

[hearty agate]

wait

ohhh

ii see

[maiden cobalt]

incredibly helpful. shut up

[hearty agate]

but how i know if its 600 damage tho

cause aint no way ima be lookin at my character

[smoky dock]

Health rebate
Defense
Vertical maximum speed improvement
Regeneraga for regeneration, DR, and damage

[molten quail]

aside from seeing the damage number above your head? if your health is going down very fast that means you took a lot of damage

[smoky dock]

It also does Absorber Affliction but Providence can’t trigger that so it’s moot

[maiden cobalt]

i take a single yharon slam, it does 300 damage
i take the 300 (apparently), then heal, do nothing, and bleedout

[hearty agate]

ima just equip guide voodoo doll instead of chalice its honestly better

[molten quail]

LOL

[smoky dock]

real

[halcyon imp]

i mean yeah but wouldn't you prefer something that has a really powerful effect over a bunch of semi useful niche buffs or not here?

[maiden cobalt]

im not sure if its a bug with like. sponge or something???

[hearty agate]

mid fight ill use the sniper in my third slot trickshot the guide and yharon will die from being impressed

[maiden cobalt]

but i still take the full damage

[smoky dock]

You can find specialists that do all of those better, but you run out of slots

[maiden cobalt]

PLUS the bleed

[dusty cobalt]

Is chalice just bad for big hits

Or is it good

[molten quail]

chalice is good for big hits (unless youre StickerBored in which case it seems to be broken)

[hearty agate]

this chat used to be so peaceful

[smoky dock]

Ursa Sergeant has more defense, Ambrosial Ampoule has more regeneration, offensive accessories have more damage,

[river shell]

Has anyone played stars above and do you know if I can place an obsidian instabridge without issues

[smoky dock]

Frog Leg has more speed

[remote marten]

better for big hits since it spreads the damage out from a hit that would otherwise onetap

[hearty agate]

i dont know what stickerboard arguing about but i agree with him

[maiden cobalt]

i have no clue why it does the full 300 but it does the full 300 and then the bleed

[halcyon imp]

i mean yeah but like +10def a bit of move speed kb immune and some minor looking debuffs just sounds worse than more dmg (this or i'm bad at visualizing numbers and thus at seeing values in it)

[maiden cobalt]

lemme

boot this up rq

[hearty agate]

stickerboard let me try your theroy rreal quick

[dusty cobalt]

If only it worked like progenisis

[maiden cobalt]

i have auric so the damage will be reduced but

[dusty cobalt]

I'd actually like it

[maiden cobalt]

ill swap out purity for it

[halcyon imp]

is there like a place on the wiki where i can sort accessories by rarity or smth so i can somewhat grasp whats available when

[hearty agate]

guys

stickerboard wasnt lying

it doesnt cancel the bleed

i just tried it

[waxen tide]

it halves the bleed.

[maiden cobalt]

it halves it yes

[halcyon imp]

doesn't it halve it

[hearty agate]

oh

[molten quail]

it halves the remaining bleed

[maiden cobalt]

however the half does not reduce it enough

i still bleedout

[hearty agate]

for fuck sake i always look like the idiot

lmao

[maiden cobalt]

richard i mean this nicely

[halcyon imp]

(you don't)

[maiden cobalt]

your pfp and username is Richard Watterson

you set this path

[molten quail]

nobody has ever said this before meaning something nicely

[hearty agate]

touche

he MEANS it nicely

ofc it wont be nice

[remote marten]

dont worry i told the waiters at restaurants to enjoy their meals too on multiple occasions

[hearty agate]

he just doesnt mean any bad intention

[halcyon imp]

you can mean nicely something nice

[hearty agate]

yikes

[halcyon imp]

i usually nicely mean the nice things i say

[frank mauve]

u can nicely say fuck you

[hearty agate]

this chat cracking me up

[molten quail]

you can SAY you're nicely saying "fuck you", but that doesn't make it nice

[halcyon imp]

as opposed to angrily saying nice things in a fit or rage of course

[remote marten]

please kindly sacrifice urself at the altar of the accursed

[hearty agate]

meta?

[frank mauve]

haha fuck you but nicely and as a joke

[molten quail]

i am Offended. and will be cancelling you.

😠

[frank mauve]

WHAT

[fast dagger]

can you add wrath of the gods to an inferrnum world after beating scal? like without it messing anything up, or would i have to make a whole other world

[hearty agate]

now thats meta

[molten quail]

darn you to heck! /srs

[frank mauve]

its so over chat.... nice knowing yall

[dusty cobalt]

I think chalice is fine if u are not getting multi dinged

But

[hearty agate]

why you hate solyn

tho

[dusty cobalt]

A lot do the time that does not happen...

[hearty agate]

lowkey saved you during the mars fight give her recogination

[frank mauve]

cuz i dont have hair as cool

[remote marten]

and me and my 100 alt accounts will misinterpret that as a targetted attack and cancel the cancelling

[dusty cobalt]

So it is not fine

[hearty agate]

thats...

[frank mauve]

u can tank the mars beam

[hearty agate]

valid...

touche

[molten quail]

thats cheating because it inconveniences me

[hearty agate]

wait FR?!

[maiden cobalt]

okay well im testing this with auric

[hearty agate]

i thought it was insta kill

[maiden cobalt]

so it might be rigged for it

[remote marten]

nuh uh

[molten quail]

oh ok

[maiden cobalt]

but it still hurts me more than the hit does

[frank mauve]

u need to save up potions and a draedon heart

[maiden cobalt]

bc im getting hit while i still have the bleed

which means the damage bank is even higher

[halcyon imp]

is there any page of the wiki where i can sort accessories by rarity or any other way to see what's new at a given progression stage

it feels like i've been running the same things for forever and like i don't even know what exists

[frank mauve]

ye u can

in the accessories section...

[hearty agate]

just keep clicking youll eventually find what you need

[halcyon imp]

yes but

it's sorted iton a billion categories

[molten quail]

this is what recipe browser doomscrolling is for

[frank mauve]

u can sort them by rarities

[hearty agate]

thats a finite number youll EVENTRUALLY find it

[molten quail]

just start browsing recipes for every accessory you currently have and every material you have unlocked

[halcyon imp]

i don't want them idividually separaterd in types i want a full melting pot of bullshit for me to dig through

[frank mauve]

yes it exists

[hearty agate]

but why not could be... meta?

[halcyon imp]

i am very blind and cannot find it

[frank mauve]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Accessories

click on combat accessories

then sort them by rarities

[halcyon imp]

i don't want just combat...

is the thing

i want ALL

[frank mauve]

then u can do that for most accessories

if u open the other one

s

also most of the times the one in combat reappears in movement/restorative

[halcyon imp]

i mean yeah but thats not everything in 1 list that's like 5 lists to look thru individually

[frank mauve]

its really not that long if u know what progression stage ur at

[halcyon imp]

damn with so many weapon variety among all 5 classes why does it feel like theres barely any variety among all class accessories...

[hearty agate]

i cant with this fucking subphase 1 dash

im actually crashing out

[halcyon imp]

or even class exclusive accessories for that matter

[maiden cobalt]

how long does ohio beam last for

goodness

[hearty agate]

what in gods green earth did i just read

[onyx igloo]

Because pre dog you're using the weaker accessories before the full culmination of each class

[halcyon imp]

i mean i know that but

i thought i was just running the meta

and that there were more options that existed

[vagrant raft]

i messed up

[halcyon imp]

not that you had like a pool of 10 something good accessories at one stage

[onyx igloo]

There are more, it's just few since people use the meta

[vagrant raft]

i broken the ai of slime gods

[onyx igloo]

Or few don't use the meta

[halcyon imp]

i thoguht it'd be like weapons where at any given stage you have like 20 viable

with all the classes' different viable options

[vagrant raft]

oh my god

[onyx igloo]

You have like 1-4 per stage for each class usually

Hardmode is just where most weapons reside in each stage

Post ml gives you much less options since each option is usually really strong in their own builds or niche situations

I mean you would rarely use something that most people don't recommend because you're used to the meta instead of using whatever you find

[halcyon imp]

yeah true

but whatever i find ends up kinda being the meta if its far in progression

because theres not a lot of options or at least feels like it

[onyx igloo]

Just wait till you see Fargo's

Yeah some weapons are better than others, but that's like by a few seconds, and you're usually multiclassing with Eri armor on abominationn or using one of the weapons that are consistently equal with the others

[halcyon imp]

weapons variety is good

[onyx igloo]

Just some are slightly better than others for viability, like the fishing rod, or nuke Fishron

[halcyon imp]

like 4 viable options per class when ur using 1 weapon at a time and they all fill unique niches thats perfect if not even a bit big

[frank mauve]

use the bee

best accessory

[smoky dock]

When confronted with me the meta grovels at my feet

I am the meta

[halcyon imp]

but accessories when you kinda have like just a bit more options than you have slots... feels a bit restrictive

[onyx igloo]

I mean sure

The meta is whatever I like the most as well

yo-yo's

[smoky dock]

Argus as begged for his life when I beat him to fucking death with my shovel

[hearty agate]

im getting better but ima be honest deaths ascension is just better imo the homing makes aiming less required giving me more focus on dodging and i got a new pr

[onyx igloo]

Essence Flayer or Galaxy Smasher

[hearty agate]

essence flayer homing isnt good and ive tried using it

i use to much brain power on aiming it makes the fight harder

[onyx igloo]

For the last part in Yharon just use Galaxy smasher or murasama

[hearty agate]

and less consistent

[smoky dock]

true melee? 🥺

[onyx igloo]

How are you missing with essence Flayer on yharon though

[halcyon imp]

is it insane of me to think ascourge might legit be my fav infernum boss?

[onyx igloo]

80% of the fight he's dashing directly into you

[halcyon imp]

i beat that thing with a fucking handgun and had the time of my life

[onyx igloo]

Kinda

[hearty agate]

cause im rusty as hell at yharon

[halcyon imp]

almost all its moves feel fair

[hearty agate]

and plus most the time im dashing diagonally away so i gotta think harder on where i am

aiming

[onyx igloo]

My favorite infernum boss is dog

He's so fun and easy

Fraudulent boss

[halcyon imp]

and even pre boss it even hits kind of weakly compared to post ml bosses w/ on tier gear

[hearty agate]

burn.

[halcyon imp]

dog is funny

[onyx igloo]

Glazed beyond comprehension

[halcyon imp]

he's a knowledge check

[hearty agate]

first word valid

second word

[halcyon imp]

i think it's a fun enough design

[hearty agate]

NOT valid

[onyx igloo]

He's just a pitbull, reckless charging but just being prepared makes said pitbull cower in fear

[halcyon imp]

the fucking providence guardians and provi herself tho i dread every playthrough

[onyx igloo]

Dog is the biggest fraud in gaming history

[halcyon imp]

do you bash your skull into pitbulls at home too

[hearty agate]

guardians i despise providence was a cakewalk

SKELETRON ON THE OTHER HAND

[onyx igloo]

I saw someone compare him to Consort Radahn, which I cant exactly say is wrong since I can't afford Elden ring, but dog is not that hard at all

[hearty agate]

was my highest attempted boss until profraned guardians

yes all of pre hm and hm was easier then skeletron

[halcyon imp]

also why is pridevful hunder's planar ripper reccomended? am i using it wrong or is the superradiant slaughterer just insanely better

it shredded thru the guardians like i've never seen before

[onyx igloo]

Superradiant Slaughterer is good but I hate it

[nimble wing]

superradiant is one of the best weapons in calamity history i think

[onyx igloo]

I like clockwork bow for ranger

[nimble wing]

ripper is good tho

[halcyon imp]

it does a billion dmg if your target is afk which is good cause provi is the size of the empire state building

[onyx igloo]

Or the uh star one

[halcyon imp]

ew clockwork

not only is there w*rk in the name

but i need to think to use it

[onyx igloo]

Clockwork is great fuck you mean

[nimble wing]

n-no you don't really

[onyx igloo]

I know you have a neckbeard and complain on reddit that the "sissy liberals" are woke

[halcyon imp]

i don't play ranger to think i play ranger to unleash my inner american and shoot at sentient creatures

[nimble wing]

it homes into anything from anywhere

[halcyon imp]

you need timing

[elder nebula]

you need timing for everything

[halcyon imp]

fuck no i play infernum do i look straight

[onyx igloo]

Anyone who makes work or job jokes has a greasy neckbeard and a fedora

[halcyon imp]

reddit is calling to me 😔

i'm gonna post to get my updoots and my reddit gold

[molten quail]

the blood moon started in the middle of my astrageldon fight and i died trying to change the time back to day with portable sundial 💔

[onyx igloo]

Like bro I am YEARNING for employment

I want to make terrible financial decisions

[dusty cobalt]

I was going to say something, but I dont make those jokes

[hearty agate]

HOLY FUCK

18% LEFT

how did i pr from 54% to 18%

also this phase 2 music is so goatedddddddddd

[onyx igloo]

Roar of the Jungle Dragon, it's one of the few osts with lyrics

Think there's like 2 or maybe a few more

[hearty agate]

yeah

[halcyon imp]

is the other only one stained brutal calamity or am i missing one

[hearty agate]

that song name rolls off the tounge so well

sounds super tuff

[onyx igloo]

Yeah the Scal theme does

The Scal theme is from different perspectives iirc

[halcyon imp]

idt theres any other one unless i'm forgetting smthj

yes

i guess you could count the like 2 voice samples from beelzebut's fly

[nimble wing]

i'm one of the most infernum-rotted people on the planet and i'm a protestant

try a bigger sample size

[halcyon imp]

that's 1 one person off of the like 5 people i know that play calamity

[hearty agate]

1/10000 withered foxy jumpscare finna make me have a heart attack istg

[halcyon imp]

the results satisfy me so i won't try a bigger sample size

[hearty agate]

SO locked in about to get to phase 2 then he pops up and i just lost my flow

[halcyon imp]

i've had it on maximum rarity for forever i think it's time i put it back on default settings...

[hearty agate]

you change the chance?

[halcyon imp]

you can in mod settings

[hearty agate]

1/1.

[halcyon imp]

i wanted to disable it but i was too lazy to reload all the mods so i just put the odds to the max lmao

[hearty agate]

imagine i beat yharon with it at 1/1

half the time i cant see 80% of my screen

[halcyon imp]

beating yharon blindfolded atp

[hearty agate]

you think anyones done that?

or dog

[halcyon imp]

i put it on 1 in 1

every second

it's horrible

[hearty agate]

hows the experience

its just delightful

[halcyon imp]

disabled the volume will do a provi try like that

projectiles weren't hazrd to see enouhg for my taste

[hearty agate]

providence is a goated fight

[halcyon imp]

okay this was a bad idea

[halcyon imp]

its like the worst

[hearty agate]

youll hate it

but when you beat it

youll like it

suck my dick yharon

ggs.

[dusty cobalt]

pro

[hearty agate]

now the finale 2 bosses

[dusty cobalt]

...

i just did this

before i did melee at least

[hearty agate]

what you gonna be swapping class for a boss?

[dusty cobalt]

no thats okay..

i wanted summoner but ill do what the wheel says

[hearty agate]

be grateful you didnt get mage

dear god

[smoky dock]

rang*r is the fucking worst

[dusty cobalt]

to be honest i think theyre all good

but melee and rogue are just betterer

[smoky dock]

Melee bad

[dusty cobalt]

well, maybe summoner too but its been a while

[smoky dock]

True melee is correct

[smoky dock]

summoner is the best class in the game right now

It’s not close

[hearty agate]

MELEE BAD?!

how dare you

[smoky dock]

True melee is 👍

False melee 👎

[hearty agate]

banned

from my minecraft server

[smoky dock]

I’m the authority of this

[hearty agate]

nuh uh

[smoky dock]

I am the CEO of true melee

[hearty agate]

NUH UH

[smoky dock]

Then who is.

[whole arch]

what mod is this sword from

hes fighting a boss called radiant tempest

[hearty agate]

the ceo of true melee is...

a ceo.

[smoky dock]

I have a resume

[hearty agate]

lets hear it

[smoky dock]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLS7BsbUnSJuRUYWKyhypAASZdQRNvrUoi

[hearty agate]

okay

maybe you are the ceo

im sorry king

[smoky dock]

watch the empress and argus ones they’re peam

[dusty cobalt]

rather unfortunate the only time i use true melee is against the exos

[elder nebula]

💔

[hearty agate]

chalice of the blood god or purity?

[gloomy wedge]

Buggy airdrops

[dusty cobalt]

do u mean radiance or

actual purity

[elder nebula]

chalice imo

[hearty agate]

idk the guide says

puirty

ohhh i get it

1.4x damage but no crit

i rather keep chalice

whats the best weapon for exo mechs

[elder nebula]

class?

[hearty agate]

melee

not true

[elder nebula]

zenith probably

[hearty agate]

what

[maiden cobalt]

what does ares expect when they start self destructing

do i need to dash when they are about to fire the laser or

[hearty agate]

dont ask me im just geting to your level

what weapon is good for exo

[maiden cobalt]

dragon rage for thanatos and hunters, ataraxia for other long ranged encounters

[hearty agate]

ok thank you amigo

[maiden cobalt]

something feels off abt my loadout

im not sure whats wrong but something is

[hearty agate]

the absorber?

[maiden cobalt]

might be

i really like the rene though

looked up a nohit

i can just fly to the right??

i just need to quickly jolt upwards to prevent myself from getting hit

[frank mauve]

are u true melee

[maiden cobalt]

im primarily using dragons rage but ataraxia is being used

ataraxia is only when i cant reach dragon

[nimble wing]

we've been over this. i'm the CEO, you're the COO

[maiden cobalt]

also i tried hide of astrum over warbanner but it doesnt seem to do very much

[smoky dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412104907550621708/1430713935186628648/6ooDk1f.gif

[nimble wing]

what do you mean it doesn't do very much

hide ALONE does like 18k dps

[smoky dock]

hide of astrum deus is like, half the damage you’ll be doing

are the stars hitting?

[maiden cobalt]

im unsure

i mean i can try

lets see it

its doing less damage

im getting like 6k dps vs my 11k

[smoky dock]

oh on exos

[maiden cobalt]

mhm

[smoky dock]

HoAD is still super strong on exos but it’s not the menace it was earlier

[maiden cobalt]

yea i dont use it because in my eyes there isnt really a good true melee (that i like using) until dragons rage and that ones barely true melee

thing reachs from peru to spain and opens a trade route

oh and dog kinda wanted a true melee but i said no and ramdashed him (the truest of melees actually)

[hearty agate]

what exo mech would be best to kill first and leave one till last

[maiden cobalt]

it really depends on how you feel

ares needs to be killed last for the photon ripper

[hearty agate]

is there any other loot for killing others last?

[rare crest]

terratomere

goated

[hearty agate]

im using ataraxia but ill check it out sooner or later

[rare crest]

i did use ataraxia a few times, thats good too

also if u want ane asy fight kill ares first

an easy *'

[dusty cobalt]

Use arkhalis

Ez win

[rare crest]

infernum yharon is what im stuck on rn

[hearty agate]

i just made thantos go from 100% to 50% hp in 4 seconds.

[maiden cobalt]

with the dragons rage?

[hearty agate]

yeah

holy

[maiden cobalt]

its a liiiiiiiiiiitttle good on worm bosses

sh

wait.

[hearty agate]

just a littkle

[dusty cobalt]

Dragon rage moment

[misty thistle]

fairly sure I've seen it answered before, but has anyone made a list of all of the best / biggest content mods that all play together well ? like calamity, add-ons, thorium, the mods that make those two work together etc, like I know Fargo's has a calamity "dlc" etc.

[maiden cobalt]

Spine of Thanatos Drops From Thanatos When He is Killed Last.

I could kill That afterwards

[hearty agate]

thats summoner tho

right

[peak jacinth]

uh, idk about MAXIMUM but i think my shi works

let me found modlist

Basic calamity
Catalyst
Wrath of the gods
Hunt of the old god
Fargo's Mutant
Fargo's Souls
Calamity - Fargo's souls DLC

[rare crest]

no alchemist ?

[peak jacinth]

major mods

[maiden cobalt]

melee whip

flail*

[hearty agate]

yeah i dont think ill be using flail against scal so its fine

ima just shred thanatos i guess?

feels super cheesy but ive suffered enough

[maiden cobalt]

hooooooh.

there we go.

[misty thistle]

not just calamity add-ons, was talking about the other content mods like thorium, spirit? I think something called sots, TSA, etc.

might not be the perfect channel for this mb

[prime grove]

I need help

I can't attack with flamsteed ring

[peak jacinth]

fargos souls is not calamity addons

[misty thistle]

ok

[hearty agate]

got to phase 3 so im not doing too bad

ares is a lil hard tho

[peak jacinth]

the worm?

[hearty agate]

no ares the big like skeletron knock off

[peak jacinth]

oh that guy

istg i wanted to break my keyboard while fighting him

[hearty agate]

thats not a great sign

but why

[peak jacinth]

idk he just face tanked me for the whole time

tho i killed him somehow

i just couldnt run from him

[hearty agate]

can dragon rage hit ares?

[peak jacinth]

idk tbf

[maiden cobalt]

dragon rage can hit ares if and only if they either slash at you or they omegabeam

[hearty agate]

what the fuck is omegabeam

and is it worth to dragon rage them in this moves?

[maiden cobalt]

omegabeam is the blenderbeam

[hearty agate]

and what is the blenderbeam

im scared

[maiden cobalt]

have you been going thanatos > ares

you've seen it if you have

[hearty agate]

thanatos then apollo

then ares phase 3

[maiden cobalt]

ah

you need to kill ares last for the photon ripper

so he cant be the 3rd one

[hearty agate]

i dont want photon ripper

or im not planning to use it

[maiden cobalt]

oh i see

[hearty agate]

its fine ill just quickly see what it is

yeah im cooked

i think thats enough calamity tonight

ima go eat then sleep

ive been grinding calamity for like 6 hrs

[peak jacinth]

btw what yall prefer, pristine potions or alchemist lite?

or both lol

[rare crest]

alchmist alll day

[neon stag]

PPP, since alch npc has some cheat features

[peak jacinth]

wdym?

[maiden cobalt]

its all cheating technically if base terraria doesnt have it

its fine

[neon stag]

well, for example some of the potions sold by alch npcs are just pure cheating

You get stuff like extra dodge that works with other dodge items, you get the hallowed set bonus, kb immunity, dryads blessing, sunflower buff and shit

[neon stag]

So playing calamity is cheating?

[maiden cobalt]

yes

have you SEEN the cosmolight

thats so cheating

[peak jacinth]

LMAO

[neon stag]

not necessarily, theres similar items in base terraria as well. Also, the Cosmolight is balanced around the calamity mod, not vanilla terraria.

[maiden cobalt]

hmmmm idk man

i went to the wizard and he was selling the rod of discord

for 17 gold!!! thats for free!!!!

[peak jacinth]

btw how good actually is this thing

i never used it for like 300h of playtime

[maiden cobalt]

its decent

if you can hotbar quickly its fine

[neon stag]

Rod of discord is useless in calamity mod. As I said, all of the calamity qol features are balanced around the calamity mod itself, not the vanilla terraria most people are used to.

[maiden cobalt]

you get a version later that is on a keybind but is slower

[maiden cobalt]

dude
i went to
to the guy
right
the fish guy
he gave me 10 minutes of water breathing

for free!!!!!!!

games so cheating

[neon stag]

All of the bosses in calamity are designed in a way that the rod of discord is more like a nuisance and just pointless extra inputs than actual help

[neon stag]

This is for the abyss.

[maiden cobalt]

its actually not they're removing it in sso

[wind rover]

just because its being removed doesn't mean it wasn't meant to be used in the abyss

[neon stag]

I dont know how many times one has to repeat this, all of the calamity qol features are designed and balanced around calamity mod itself so theres really no cheat features like the potions in alch npc

[worthy reef]

Anyone know the rules for the satanist mode

To get a valid run and win 2000

I wana try beat it

[maiden cobalt]

#other-mod-talk

[peak jacinth]

[maiden cobalt]

theres a lady i get after skeletron
it like
it
it gives me my money back
after i use reforges

[worthy reef]

I don’t care if it takes a year

[maiden cobalt]

its so cheating

[worthy reef]

I will do it

[neon stag]

so were genuinely just trying to ragebait now?

[worthy reef]

Unless anyone wants to do one with

[maiden cobalt]

dude i was ragebaiting back when we started

its a singleplayer game

its not cheating unless they're in a tournament or leaderboard

really it just depends on how they wanna play the game

[worthy reef]

What’s cheating ?

[maiden cobalt]

using alch npc lite

theres not really cheating in it

its just a QoL mod

if you dont want quality in your life, then dont use it :)

[wind rover]

adding buffs isnt really qol

[peak jacinth]

fargo's mutant and alch lite is smth why i play terraria still

[wind rover]

its more of an unbalanced, low quality content mod

[maiden cobalt]

see BASE alch npc is incredibly unbalanced

[worthy reef]

Well it’s not cheating

Unless ur doing like a challenge run

And even then idk why it would be cheating lol

[wind rover]

alch lite is still unbalanced

[onyx igloo]

Very

Prismas is the balanced version with better quality of life

[neon stag]

^^^

[onyx igloo]

The only thing I use from Alch is the jeweler for gems and architect

And alchemist I guess for the herbs if I don't have money for the prismas ones

Getting fireblossoms takes a while

[short badge]

Is there a better mod for block swapping than the ore excavator config

Or like auto placing in general

[maiden cobalt]

anyone have the discord link for infernums discord

the online link doesnt seem to work

[azure bane]

it perplexes me why the terraria devs thought they should add a pickaxe that lets you skip the entirety of pre hm ore progression

and make it incredibly easy to get

but im gonna do the reaver skip anyways and demolish infernum ds

[frank mauve]

well the terraria devs nerfed it

its only doable cuz calamity reverts it

[azure bane]

yeahhh

i still dont know why they willed it into existence to begin with

[maiden cobalt]

bump

[frank mauve]

#other-discords

[maiden cobalt]

danke

[dusty cobalt]

I mean noone forced u to use it+ its not like this is a competitive game

Or something

I get ur point but in the end I dont think it was that crazy

Im talking too much again

[humble trench]

i'm so fucking tired of infernum empress

it's not even that hard im just Bored of the fight

[azure bane]

im not complaining about it

it's just interesting

[dusty cobalt]

My bad

[heady pulsar]

im fighting infernum golem? why is random fire shots coming out of no where hwen they werent?

like

i put a lot of torchs down could it be why

its in infernum cal

[cobalt pier]

Torch god

[heady pulsar]

do i just disable it?

[heady pulsar]

i used it

is it disabled now

[elder nebula]

yes

but jesus fuck why do you need that many torches

[heady pulsar]

idk man so dark down here

i spammed a bunch

[cobalt pier]

Illumimant paint

[cobalt pier]

I'm gonna play 1 torch per block

It helps me see

[frank mauve]

do u have a night owl potion

[heady pulsar]

golem

is so hard to bneat

holy

any changes?

ive gotten him to legit

so low hp so many times

[frank mauve]

use hallowed armor idk

[heady pulsar]

tiki is way better tho

no?

[elder nebula]

no

swap shadowflame for nuclear fuel rod

[frank mauve]

ive seen like 2 people use tiki ever

[heady pulsar]

i thought they were good cuz of wings

[vapid pendant]

You can get statis blessing

[frank mauve]

where did xavier go whos snailrook💔

[elder nebula]

..my name was xzier

[frank mauve]

autocorrect

[heady pulsar]

what wings pair well with hallowed

i can make spooky wings btw

[elder nebula]

yeah put that over battery @heady pulsar

[elder nebula]

mothron for mobility

[heady pulsar]

okay bet

what about spooky armor

?

over hallowed

i could get spooky armor

[vapid pendant]

Hallowed is better

[elder nebula]

if you wanna be a glass cannon sure

[heady pulsar]

aight

statis

blessing is not available no?

[elder nebula]

it's post plant

star tainted generator is the post golem one iirc

[heady pulsar]

oh

btw infernum

u are sure hallowed better than tiki?

bruh it gives so much more armor

tf

maybe the passive is way better

[elder nebula]

holy dodge is fucking nutty

only one in the game that stacks with accessory dodges

[heady pulsar]

good?

went warding on all accesories haha

@elder nebula

[night fractal]

what boss is this for

[heady pulsar]

what would u say is a good summoner weapon for astrum?

[heady pulsar]

golem

just beat it

[night fractal]

oh if you're post golem a lot can change

[heady pulsar]

good for astreum?

[night fractal]

but yeah that should be fine for aureus

[heady pulsar]

it was for pre golem

[heady pulsar]

which one

[night fractal]

Astrum is a bad name for them bc there's both Astrum Aureus and Astrum Deus

aureus is the walker

[heady pulsar]

astreum deus

aureus

sorry

[night fractal]

I'd say first Shadowflame over Nuclear Rod will be better

Shadowflame is much more dmg than irradiated

Or Papyrus Scarab

once you ready to go get post golem gear, get hydrothermic armor

[heady pulsar]

what weapon u recommend

for astreum aeurus tho

[heady pulsar]

was thinking of these

[night fractal]

and star Tainted Generator ofc

Yeah use raven

Or belcher

[neon nimbus]

for some reason, sometimes when I leave the server and join back, it resets the progress of my world ever killing any of the modded bosses?

[night fractal]

Idk which is better especially on infernum

Raven is probably more consistent

[night fractal]

It's because of boss checklist

Replace it with Boss Checklist Lite

[neon nimbus]

oh damn

[night fractal]

you'll still have to re-kill the bosses

[neon nimbus]

but it wont bug again

[night fractal]

but at least it won't break to leaving the world or subworld again yea

[neon nimbus]

will it corrupt my save by chance?

[night fractal]

It shouldn't

Replacing it definitely won't

[neon nimbus]

i'll just make a backup just in case

[heady pulsar]

astrum aeurus lowkey fcking me

wth

[frank mauve]

the crab frying u?

[heady pulsar]

yup

i beat golem lmfao

well died 2x times to him now

[frank mauve]

is he enraged

[heady pulsar]

no idea

my astral biom

is so small

so its very hard to tell

its extremely small in a medium map

[frank mauve]

well if u fight him at night theres no problem

[frank mauve]

i usually like fighting him in a flat surface

[heady pulsar]

i beat him

i just ran way

away lol

instead of going close to him

and my ravens just killed them

is borealis bomber

supposed to be mixed together with a whip?

[frank mauve]

its like an alternative whip

[heady pulsar]

idk

dont like it

feels more like a use rq and switch back thing

[maiden cobalt]

these. blasted. hellfires. tiniest things and i cannot see them

[night fractal]

It's more so a replacement for a whip

It's mostly useful if you don't want to force retarget minions

[heady pulsar]

mhm makes sense

[night fractal]

I actually