calamity-addon-talk

[lapis light]

3:30 min

can take longer

[fast nacelle]

just use easy to use weapons

[fast nacelle]

yeah meant that

[ancient plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-side-eye-emoji-cat-cat-meme-cats-gif-17109111132765084649

[lapis light]

if you don't use adrenaline it can easily get longer

only problem with the bossfight is that phase 1 sucks and sky islands are your ennemy

[dusty cobalt]

Huh

[lapis light]

geldon

[ancient plinth]

i have heard stuff before about fargo's mods

also what is the opinion on calamity vanity mod..

[lapis light]

fargo's soul mod is another content mod wich as a dlc to combo with calamity

[scarlet shadow]

Butcher's Chainsaw but you'd have to tank an insane amount of hits for it to be effective

[lapis light]

mutant mod are extra npcs who are just usfull to have

[ancient plinth]

yes i've heard of that mutant stuff, idk if i want that

[fast nacelle]

i like the vanity when you turn into horrors beyond your comprehension

[ancient plinth]

feels a bit cheesy

[fast nacelle]

great

just hard

[ancient plinth]

yes.

[lapis light]

and for vanity mod I guess it's just uh, vanity and building (and cool plushies)

[ancient plinth]

okay interested
noted uhh..calamity vanity..and fargo's mod
is that what it's called?

[atomic locust]

alr alr

[lapis light]

I love the plushies

[ancient plinth]

fargo?

[fast nacelle]

fargos souls is the content mod

[lapis light]

mutant for only the npcs, soul for the extra content

[fast nacelle]

fargos mutant is required for it

[ancient plinth]

yep fiund it

[fast nacelle]

and heavily recommended for general play

[ancient plinth]

is it not a bit cheesy?

[fast nacelle]

then dont use the fargos mutant stuff

👍

[ancient plinth]

feels like it ruins the..painful grind for five hours for each accessory part of the game..

[fast nacelle]

oh yeah fargos souls balances this

[ancient plinth]

you said it's "required", you meant it only as a convience thing?

[lapis light]

it's required for soul mod

[fast nacelle]

wait is this the fargos dlc version

ah ok it isnt

good

[ancient plinth]

fargo has some add on mods too should i worry about that

[atomic locust]

is it too late to add fargos souls if in pre moonlord

[ancient plinth]

there's literally one just with "extra" added on the end of it..

[fast nacelle]

fargos dlc if you wanna play with calamity

[dusty cobalt]

Making all those souls sounds kinda fun

[fast nacelle]

adds 3 accessories and one item

[lapis light]

idk if it's a good idea to play the calamity + soul DLC when you haven't done a different playtrough of both first

[dusty cobalt]

Do you just become a god

[fast nacelle]

not worth it

[fast nacelle]

absolutely not

[ancient plinth]

i wanna play with calamity calamity is the big part of all of dis..

[fast nacelle]

basically

[ancient plinth]

really really?

[fast nacelle]

yes

esp fargos souls

[ancient plinth]

inform me

[lapis light]

both offer a lot of content so having both for a first playtrough wich focus on calamity isn't the best idea

[ancient plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-meme-all-ears-cat-ears-gif-15939285897565502931

i'm alll ears

[ancient plinth]

I see..

i guess it woul be a bit overwhelming, maybe? too many choices, balancing probably is just all over the place?

[fast nacelle]

also fargos is primarily based around eternity mode+ which is heavily seen as a really hard mode

[fast nacelle]

yes

[ancient plinth]

okay no fargo DLC..okay..

[lapis light]

maybe you could try masochist infernum hardcore 1hp playtrough with no wings

[ancient plinth]

added to notes

[lapis light]

thrower class only

[ancient plinth]

isn't there a really good end game throwing weapon

i think..don't remember..

[fast nacelle]

remove infernum cuz its broken and would be easier than without

[ancient plinth]

really?

[fast nacelle]

(with master and or masochist)

[lapis light]

what is broken with it

[fast nacelle]

on its own no

[lapis light]

wich part

[fast nacelle]

dog head does 2k damage on master mode

as an example

the boss ai with masochist is

uhh

less than ideal

[lapis light]

i'm struggling with guardians don't tell me the head frickin OSes me

[fast nacelle]

oh youre doing master infernum?

peam

[lapis light]

not master but i'm already struggling on expert

[ancient plinth]

Ohh there’s somethings here I haven’t seen..
Wrath of the machines, and calamity fables

What are those those?

[fast nacelle]

ah fair

but guardians is very hard

harder than providence according to many

[lapis light]

wrath of the machines is nice reworks the exo mechs and makes it peak

[frank mauve]

reworks exos, fables is like calamity 2

[heady pulsar]

calamity infernum pre leviathan? best weapon idk what works against it

[lapis light]

fables idk

[heady pulsar]

tried but it feels off all

[ancient plinth]

Holy moly there’s so many mods

[fast nacelle]

wrath of the machines is reworks to exo mechs from fargos dlc (not needed for either), fables isnt an addon, dont use it

with cal

[lapis light]

class ?

[heady pulsar]

summoner

[ancient plinth]

so I need the base “calamity mod” to use all other stuff?

Like infernum

[fast nacelle]

use whip and raven staff

cryonic staff is best for sentries

[fast nacelle]

ye

[lapis light]

if you did empress just use her stuff

[heady pulsar]

i didnt

leviathan is pre golem

[lapis light]

oh yea forgot that

infernum empress is absolute cinema

[heady pulsar]

yeah

ik im gonna try

50 times

to beat her

[lapis light]

empress gotta be my fav vanilla boss

even more on infernum

[ancient plinth]

I want to ask questions about everything but there’s too many things..

[heady pulsar]

when will they be updating calamity its been years no?

[ancient plinth]

overwhelming amount of mods

[fast nacelle]

i recommend only using calamity mod, calamity music mod, vanilla calamity music and some qol

[lapis light]

we calamity players do not have updates of both our game and mod

[fast nacelle]

maybe calamity vanities

[gloomy wedge]

its been in the works

the current bottleneck is spriters because theres a LOT of stuff that needs to be sprited

also scopecreep

[fast nacelle]

a year

ye

or does the fabsol purge count as an actual update

if so its been half a year

[lapis light]

colored calamity relics with colored relics (second one a terraria texture pack)

is peak

[fast nacelle]

oh yeah true

cool mod

and texture pack

[lapis light]

colored infernum relics when

[scarlet shadow]

o w

[lapis light]

(and colored geldon goozma and WoTG when)

[fast nacelle]

its just one trophy for goozma and three for wotg

quite literally like

4 sprites

[scarlet shadow]

fym three

[fast nacelle]

mars ?

[lapis light]

geldon crying in the corner

[fast nacelle]

does mars not have a trophy

wtf

[lapis light]

mars is kinda trophyless

[fast nacelle]

its a different color from other trophies

so

idk if i would count it in

its already goated

[lapis light]

it could be colored and the base of the relic stays silver

[ancient plinth]

Okay noted and skelli’s noted…
Very helpful, thank you lots..I’ll see if I can run the game with this collection of mods

There’s also that one “fancy lighting” (not it’s name) mod

Very cool but is it extremely tasking?
Or does it ruin anything..

[lapis light]

lag helped me kill Scal on my first playtrough it slowed the game lol

[ancient plinth]

the laginator..

[lapis light]

can't abuse it anymore got a PC upgrade (wich makes me suffer against those STUPID profaned guardians)

I hate guardians

[frank mauve]

shaders

just like lights and shadows

[scarlet shadow]

not even a relic

[frank mauve]

or u can use realistic skies

[fast nacelle]

what the frick

[lapis light]

Mars only purpose is to powerscale Solyn

and give you the seed

[scarlet shadow]

oh so instead of avoiding or facetanking the beam all i had to do was to fucking hide behind solyn?

[lapis light]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-smile-thumbs-up-okay-good-job-gif-15442359769564278345

[ancient plinth]

What’s the difference and which do u think might run better..

[scarlet shadow]

5 wotg playthroughs and im finding out about the shielded spot only now

[ancient plinth]

I’ll just download the mods and see for myself Nevermind that question..

[lapis light]

HOW

[frank mauve]

if u got a good pc i say run both

[ancient plinth]

laptop

[scarlet shadow]

not really visible with a giant ass deathray coming straight at me

[frank mauve]

is it good

[scarlet shadow]

before i was just saving up healing pot with nanomachines and a dodge ngl

[frank mauve]

aint no way bruh

u genuinely tanked it

😭😭😭😭

[scarlet shadow]

yeah and that was with demonshade

[lapis light]

why'd you think you're supposed to tank it

[scarlet shadow]

now im using auric tesla

cuz pre scal

[scarlet shadow]

i actually thought i was meant to outrun it like ND's deathray

[lapis light]

this is ok

[scarlet shadow]

but since i couldnt i did the facetanking part until now

[lapis light]

I mean at point you should notice the middle of the ray getting blocked man

[scarlet shadow]

tho i did also slap a lion's heart rightclick while figuring out the dodging part

[scarlet shadow]

too much effects for me to figure out

[lapis light]

fair enough

I'm struggling against infernum guardians I totally understand

I hate those meatball looking pieces of dirt

[scarlet shadow]

oh well SCal next

[fast nacelle]

my friend wanted me to make the celeste mountain as a base, so heres a big ass fucking rock i guess

[lapis light]

infernum or base ?

[fast nacelle]

whyd you skip mauler smh my head

[lapis light]

why making mount celeste as a base

[fast nacelle]

cuz they wanted to

idk

[lapis light]

fair enough

[fast nacelle]

its kinda cool idea tho

since i can make the homes of the npcs the levels in celeste

[lapis light]

he should make farewell as base if he plays on a higher dif (joking but that could be cool)

[lapis light]

and absolute hell to build

[fast nacelle]

i could actually make that as some sky base

have it float on some giant jellyfish with a blackhole in the background

[scarlet shadow]

infernum true melee

[lapis light]

tried doing farewell but am stuck on that room where you gotta do a hyperdash into a wall jump with a moving block

[lapis light]

(i don't remember actual name of the techs)

[scarlet shadow]

is there like 3 blocks in the room

[lapis light]

the room starts out with a block you gotta turn on and it moves right

and you gotta wall dash on it at the right time to avoid spikes and grab it

for the first half of the room

[scarlet shadow]

ah

welp that'll take a while for me to reach

[lapis light]

I think it's on part 3 of the lvl I don't rlly remember

[scarlet shadow]

ngl would be nice if Photon Ripper had true melee damage

[frank mauve]

its like saying flails should be true
melee

[ancient plinth]

Boss list too Super thank u for the reminder..

[frank mauve]

boss checklist lite...

[night fractal]

it literally fires light crystals

it being true melee would not make much sense

[scarlet shadow]

well gotta have something 🥺

[night fractal]

you do

dragon rage

[ancient plinth]

Infernum really only runs on expert?

[smoky dock]

yep

[ancient plinth]

Noted..

Let me see if I can the base mods with some extra stuff
Very rad, thank you everyone for helping

[ionic dock]

alr so im sorry to ask this here but

all of my calamity addons except catalyst cant load due to it being detected as made for an old version

i have updated all of them so i dont know why

[ancient plinth]

Maybe tmodloader itself is outdated?

[ionic dock]

no i've updated it to the latest one

the december update

oh nvm

i've found a fix

uhh ignore me

[versed quartz]

yo what is the best weapon to use as melee against the Avatar of Emptiness? (idk if this is the right char or server mb)

[frank mauve]

idk

[versed quartz]

damn thx

[little steppe]

Literally Anything

anything that uses shadowspec just

works

[frank mauve]

tmelee 🤯

[little steppe]

earth works just fine too

[scarlet shadow]

Triactis hammer

also try Cosmic Discharge with Bloodthirsty enchant on it

(better than Earth)

[frank mauve]

what about tainted iridescent excalibur

[fast nacelle]

am i cooking

[versed quartz]

damn it rlly worked

now Nameless deity

[ashen sonnet]

is there a reason the profaned garden just didnt spawn in infernum

[onyx igloo]

Depends

Do you have any other mods that have world generation

Or did you generate a world before turning infernum on

[ashen sonnet]

i mean i did an infernum world before that with the exact same mods and it was there

[onyx igloo]

Generation won't always have the same reaction, if something doesn't generate you very likely have a mod interfering with world gen

Like stars above or another mod that has world generation, it'll interfere and cause awkward occurrences

[frank mauve]

just create another world

[onyx igloo]

And Infernum usually hates when another mod adds world gen

[fast nacelle]

i am cooking

[onyx igloo]

Where's the hotel

sobb ing

[fast nacelle]

too big

[onyx igloo]

shoebox hotel is vital

[fast nacelle]

actually i should just make a pocket dimension tbh

[frank mauve]

true

[onyx igloo]

Anyways I'm gonna fight goozma

[fast nacelle]

what should i do for the second house

[frank mauve]

moodma

[onyx igloo]

I haven't beaten the Mechs or anything yet so it'll be fun

[frank mauve]

make it out of mud

[fast nacelle]

mud house

for zoologist then

[onyx igloo]

bone wand and hive wand

[fast nacelle]

😭

[onyx igloo]

bone wand for mechanic to live in to give her ptsd

With dungeon walls

Two traumas in one

Skeleton statues as well

Dungeon banners

And spikes

Make it like the dungeon just to give her vivid PTSD like a vietnam war vet

And make her live with the tax collector

Just to make it a little bit worse since she's with a smelly old geezer

[frank mauve]

make her live with the clothier

😈

[onyx igloo]

Oh genius

Two smelly old men

[frank mauve]

sounds fun

[fast nacelle]

youre sick i dont wanna live with the mechanic

probably gonna smell like

oil

[solar saddle]

I'm currently trying to nohit all infernum bosses, will it get better? bcause im losing my sanity over the mechs

[dusty cobalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1296014241593036825/1441076626883350608/image0.gif

[vital mulch]

no

[solar saddle]

that's a nice thing to hear

[vital mulch]

is this your first infernum playthrough

[solar saddle]

hell naw

im not that big of a masochist

[vital mulch]

then why are you asking silly, you know what comes next

[solar saddle]

i thought maybe my damage will get way better and i will be able to melt the bosses

[vital mulch]

well in that case

[solar saddle]

like with dog, the boss already one shots you and with an offensive build you will easily take him down in +/- 1 minute

[vital mulch]

dog is one of the easiest infernum no hits for sure

[onyx igloo]

Still have to reach mnl

[solar saddle]

anyways, which class does the most dmg early hardmode?

[onyx igloo]

No speedkilling

[solar saddle]

forgot to specify

[vital mulch]

summoner has the highest damage for most of the game

[solar saddle]

im doing a 1hp playtrough

so i dont really care bout the nohit rules

[onyx igloo]

Summoner is definitely the safest for damage no hitting

Ranger is the safest for high damage

[solar saddle]

just want to finish it

[fast nacelle]

if you mean exo mechs yeah

any other mech hell nah

[onyx igloo]

Alright but the whole point of playing no hit is to not speedkill

Speedkilling bosses removes the whole point of no hitting the boss

[fast nacelle]

no its not getting hit

[onyx igloo]

And if the boss dies in 2 seconds then you can't get hit

[fast nacelle]

yeah but you cant really do that for msot bosses

[solar saddle]

yea ik but i just want to finish the playtrough with my sanity intact

[onyx igloo]

MNL still exists for a reason

[fast nacelle]

yeah i know

i am a no hitter

i know the reason for the rules

[fast nacelle]

use coin gun or summoner

[onyx igloo]

You're not very skilled if you beat the boss in less time than intended because you spend the time not getting hit, you have to outlast the time and kill the boss

[fast nacelle]

damage and movement max ofc

[fast nacelle]

just let a guy play how they want

[vital mulch]

you MUST play by my rules or else..

[onyx igloo]

Dude it's not like I'm holding them by strings, you're acting like I am forcing bro to play

[solar saddle]

im not enduring two minute battles for fun

[onyx igloo]

I'm just stating something

[fast nacelle]

yeah but the person could still see it as you targetting it towards them

[fast nacelle]

theres only like 3-5 bosses that actually does this i think

[onyx igloo]

I'm just saying if you're gonna no hit you dont wanna brag Abt it if you kill the boss in less than a minute

[solar saddle]

like with my current build the twins take like two minutes

[fast nacelle]

yeah 4/5 cuz idk how to count exo mechs

[fast nacelle]

thats kinda crazy actuallyu

[solar saddle]

not bragging

[fast nacelle]

are you using alcohols

[onyx igloo]

Shit my Infernum no hit sucked, but it's made to suck

[solar saddle]

what good are there for early hardmode except for prpl haze

[onyx igloo]

no hits are meant to not be fun (sometimes)

[onyx igloo]

well just sake and ale for melee

[solar saddle]

i m n o t d o i n g a n o h i t

[onyx igloo]

But you're not running melee in no hits often

[fast nacelle]

fireball

[solar saddle]

one hp infernum

thats it

[onyx igloo]

1 hp is a no hit btw

You die in one hit

[fast nacelle]

dodges

oh yeah use dodges forgot that

[solar saddle]

yea

[vital mulch]

actually that is a no damage run not a no hit run!

[solar saddle]

i have the amalgamated brain

[fast nacelle]

good

use deep diver too

and pauldron

[onyx igloo]

I forgot about dodges cause only 2 of them are worth using

[solar saddle]

thats what im talkin bout

[fast nacelle]

yeah theres only 2 dodges that are unique dodges

[solar saddle]

heard that can melt worm bosses

[onyx igloo]

Most of them are really just ass with the exception of amalgamated brain and void sash

[fast nacelle]

it can melt all bosses

[onyx igloo]

evasion scarf is decent but it's not my favorite

[fast nacelle]

i used it for dog and it did like 5% of all my damage

lol

[solar saddle]

soo, what class to use for pre mechs with cryo and queen slime defeated?

[fast nacelle]

summoner or ranger

rogue if you wanna play risky

tmelee could work but thats like

not good

[onyx igloo]

well you can use cryo drops to kill aquatic scourge and get deepsea staff

[fast nacelle]

for this

not mage

[solar saddle]

like the avalanche?

[fast nacelle]

only good mage weapon does self damage

[fast nacelle]

ye

but like

infernum aquatic scourge is kinda annoying to be close to

cuz it accelerates sulphuric acid thin

[onyx igloo]

avalanche is great if you run amalgamated brain and star veil

[solar saddle]

true melee is like pouring oil on a campfire in this typa run

[onyx igloo]

Abuse the extended dodge iframes

[fast nacelle]

no you fight the campfire with a very flamable stick that also has a chance to instantly put it out

[solar saddle]

true

okay so amalgamated brain + star veil + emblem and slagsplitter and the rest are movement?

[onyx igloo]

First Shadowflame instead of emblem

It's a worm

And he can be debuffed

so you know what that means

Run summons with it

Ancient ice chunk

As suppeot

support

[solar saddle]

so maybe mollusk armor for that?

[onyx igloo]

mollusk armor will do

[solar saddle]

i kinda dont want to fight the clam

its a pain in the ass

[onyx igloo]

Ancient Ice Chunk with the first Shadowflame, he may resist fire but all worms hate debuffs

[onyx igloo]

I mean you don't have to

You can just run some normal armor

With summoning potion and bewitching table

[solar saddle]

i'll go for cobalt

[onyx igloo]

For like an extra 2 summons

[solar saddle]

and all lucky reforges?

or menacing

[onyx igloo]

All lucky

The summons are supports

The debuff is the damage they're dealing

The main DPS is from avalanche

Also bring a flask of cursed flames

[solar saddle]

okay

[onyx igloo]

After Ascourge just switch to crumbling

Since most worms after (except deus) are immune to it

[solar saddle]

idk what to switch out from the movement section for the pauldron

[onyx igloo]

For deus I think summoner with flask of brimflames are great

[solar saddle]

because i have 3 for dmg and 3 for movement

[onyx igloo]

Amalgamated Brain
Star Veil
First Shadowflame
Deep Diver
Slagsplitter Pauldron
Wings, Preferably Demon

[solar saddle]

like this?

[onyx igloo]

yep

[night fractal]

demon wings are not preferable

angel is significantly better generally

[onyx igloo]

1 hp run

[night fractal]

oh

[onyx igloo]

They're going for speed kills since it's a no damage run

[night fractal]

then I'd swap pauldron for a summoner dmg accesory

Because you're lacking in dmg right now

wait no damage why is star veil there

swap that out

[onyx igloo]

The first Shadowflame is specifically for support since it's against as

They're using avalanche and cursed flasks hopefully

[night fractal]

avalanche on 1hp is crazy

[onyx igloo]

Debuff abusing is my favorite

Debuffs top 1 damage sources

[night fractal]

For 1hp I'd say probably ranger, mage, or summoner

mage with crystal vile shard, ranger with Daedalus Stormbow, or summoner with Ancient Ice Chunk

[fast nacelle]

mage is just worse ranger atp in progression

[night fractal]

no

Crystal Vile Shard is crazy

[solar saddle]

ik but i'll give it a try

[fast nacelle]

i meant more as in early hardmode

but fair nough

[onyx igloo]

Mage has slightly less options but definitely has better things

[night fractal]

early hardmode is where CVS is

[fast nacelle]

yes i know

ranger has coin gun

[night fractal]

Realistically the best best choice is coin gun yes

[onyx igloo]

Chronomancers Scythe and Mad Alchemists Cocktail Glove. My favorite

[onyx igloo]

Always has been and always willnbe

[fast nacelle]

is it bad ive never actually used chronomancers

[onyx igloo]

Great

[night fractal]

but coin gun actually isn't that much crazier than glorious end

GEnd just doesn't work in 1hp

[fast nacelle]

no i meant

i know its good

but ive never used it

is it bad that IVE never used it

[onyx igloo]

Has a homing full area attack but is slow and a fast attacking high damage base attack

[onyx igloo]

oh yeah

I used it against CV in my mage other weapons only

[fast nacelle]

should i do some more house or just finish the mountain

[onyx igloo]

shoebox mountain

[fast nacelle]

idk what you mean by this

oh yeah hotel

uhhhhhhhh

[onyx igloo]

add a shoebox house inside

[fast nacelle]

i mean

i already do

[onyx igloo]

For the angler

[fast nacelle]

kinda

no i want the angler to be in hell

[onyx igloo]

Specifically the angler

[fast nacelle]

shoebox angler house in hell.

[onyx igloo]

make him live with the tax collector

so the angler has to listen to grumpy old geezer stories of pompeii

[fast nacelle]

no tax collector will live in snow to ruin christmas for santa

[onyx igloo]

Don't you fucking dare.

[fast nacelle]

as the kids say im

uhh

grinch

:3

[onyx igloo]

you will not ruin Christmas for Santa Claus.

[solar saddle]

i did it\

1:16

what is the mnl

[fast nacelle]

for twins?

1:30

[solar saddle]

nah aquatic scourge

[fast nacelle]

1:35

[solar saddle]

fuhhh

almost

[fast nacelle]

we all need a lava pit in our lives

[frank mauve]

correct

✅

[fast nacelle]

if only i could fill it with crocodiles

[solar saddle]

also did the twins in 1:16

[dusty cobalt]

Pro

[atomic locust]

bro i actually cannot beat astrageldon like i can make it through phase 1 without too much problems but i always just get diddled early on by its phase 2

[solar saddle]

what weapons and class are you suing

[atomic locust]

melee and entropic claymore/daybreak cant send ss rn

[solar saddle]

i'd recommend switching to summoner because he already two shots you

[maiden cobalt]

cant believe yharon openly admitted to so many heinous crimes on public television why would he do that

[atomic locust]

alr ill give it s try

[maiden cobalt]

(this fucker cant time his dashes correctly)

he openly admitted to kicking over strollers with newborns and said so many slurs

he said that at night he could give to a soup kitchen
when a reporter said that he makes its noon when hes around, he said “i know.”

(i am not happy at yharon)

my main issue stems from he has five different dash timings and each is affected by me

[atomic locust]

uhhh what should i use at this tier for summoner

[solar saddle]

i used the stardust cell staff, accurate and keeps up with his movement

[fast nacelle]

finally done! i have not gotten a single item and ive been playing for like 3 hours

im so cooked

[thick cloud]

W base

[fast nacelle]

thank you

[lapis light]

W looking house (classical terraria playtrough where you spent half of the playtime building instead of actual progression)

[fast nacelle]

yup

its really nice building tho

[lapis light]

yep

[fast nacelle]

shouldve used more variation in the mountains stone tho

[lapis light]

looks way better than the things I do

[fast nacelle]

im sure you could do something alike

[lapis light]

(i mean my jungle and sunken sea biome just re-use calamity structures)

same for snow

[smoky dock]

https://tenor.com/view/tegu-pet-grab-silly-enjoyment-gif-27617448

[atomic locust]

kk

[scarlet shadow]

now build the core and use it as your arena for cryogen

[fast nacelle]

TRUE!

[azure bane]

hi

can you still not combine remnants with infernum or wotg

[solar badger]

no you 100% can

your world just looks like a pug

[azure bane]

what does that mean

[solar badger]

it means that it has breathing problems and its eyes pop out of its sockets

due to human breeding

see imagine it this way

for every mod you add

your world gets a little bit more mutated

and at the end

its likea pug

[azure bane]

but i generated the world on large so it should be fine no

[solar badger]

but youll still love that pug wont you?

so it dosent matter if its incompatible or not

even if it corrupts!

[azure bane]

i miss when tmodloader had an xl world option

would be helpful right about now

[solar badger]

🤷‍♂️

i still play on 64bit 1.3

so

i dont know anything about that

[azure bane]

as long as it doesnt affect progression

im fine with pug world

[solar badger]

it will 100% affect progression

but when your pug needs to go to his sixth annual vet checkup

you will endure

[azure bane]

ok

so nevermind

im disabling remnants

[solar badger]

adding pretty much any mod

that is a major content mod

will affect progression

as mod content mods arent made to be on the same pace as calamity

which usually has much higher dps weapon scaling

[azure bane]

why is remnants considered a content mod

i thought it was just worldgen

[solar badger]

oh i have no idea what remnants is actually

i play on 1.3 remember

i just assumed it was something

[smoky dock]

Because it includes new content

[solar badger]

if youre adding remnants as a content mod

[azure bane]

maybe in 2030 remnants will work with infernum

[solar badger]

then calamitys items will quickly outscale it

[azure bane]

oh wait infernum isnt getting ported anymore

nevermind LOL

[frank mauve]

✅

[ashen sonnet]

why does infernum not let me set a spawn point with a bed

[burnt trail]

ive had that before relogging the world fixed it for me

[ashen sonnet]

its happened for a while

[burnt trail]

ah im not too sure then sorry

[ashen sonnet]

alr

[river shell]

Does anyone know how to dodge the brain of cthulu move in infernum where he crates a ring of clones around you then goes in and out then eventually hits you

[fast nacelle]

Only the real brain does damage

[river shell]

so do I shoot it? I tried and it seems like its luck on wether it hits you or not

[fast nacelle]

Nono you just dodge the dash of the real brain

Do you know hive mind dash?

The one where it spins around you then dashes at you

It’s just that

[frank mauve]

are u using shield of cthulhu

[river shell]

yeah, i just beat it though

he didnt use that move once

🙏

[fast nacelle]

Peam

[frank mauve]

cuz shield of cthulhu can make u bounce off the clones

so it suck

[river shell]

I did notice that

[frank mauve]

yeah its annoying

[topaz hedge]

I'm planning to record/stream Calamity for the first time (blind) buut I'm not sure what mods to have
Should I JUST have Calamity and Calamity Music, or are there others I should add too?

[neon stag]

Ore excavator and recipe browser make the game 10x more enjoyable to play and for viewers watch

[burnt trail]

magic storage too

[topaz hedge]

I've also heard about "Wrath of The Gods" is that worth adding too?

[gloomy wedge]

i'd recommend using recipe browser, calamity, calamity music, and magic storage

don't use any addons that add actual content

they rely on you knowing calamity in the first place

oh, actually, quick note

do use vanilla calamity music

it's an official addon and although its optional the music is REALLY fucking good

[topaz hedge]

Oooh okay! Thank you : )

[maiden cobalt]

i am majorly hating yharons fakedashes and hyperdash

would deep diver + levis ambergris be fine for him lol

[empty flame]

hey team anyone know a mod i can use to toggle 1hp for nohits, i thought it was in nycros but maybe not?

[empty flame]

why deepdiver?

[maiden cobalt]

fast dashes

[empty flame]

yharon model is kinda big and obv dd ram is very short, although ambergris is helpful i guess

bu that could be something to watch out for

[maiden cobalt]

this is infernum yharon

he's very prone to dashing very fast

[empty flame]

yeah

i just assume infernum in this channel icl

i need gi so bad for scourge but i dont wanna dragonlens it

[humble trench]

wait does cal/infernum make terraprisma available during night

no right

[empty flame]

yeah it does

10% droprate tho

idk if its cal or infernum tho

[neon stag]

Deep diver for yharon is straight up troll btw

[maiden cobalt]

how so

troll as in bad or troll as in easy

[empty flame]

yeah...

[maiden cobalt]

i need fast dashes since aegis is not doing it for me

[humble trench]

IT DOES???

[neon stag]

Troll as in, probably the worst dash option I could think of

[empty flame]

i was trying to be nice but its probably completely useless

[empty flame]

ya ya

[neon stag]

You could try dash canceling

[humble trench]

bro 😭

[neon stag]

Or hook flinging yourself

[humble trench]

at least i dont need to be 2 shot anymore tho

[neon stag]

Featherfall potion + bobbit hook + pogo stick makes you fly into orbit at lightspeed

[empty flame]

bobbit hook solos

[neon stag]

[empty flame]

@maiden cobalt cab we see the full loadout

[maiden cobalt]

uhhh

im not on tmodloader but

godslayer armor, melee
absorber
ampoule
the amalgam
asgardian aegis
elemental gauntlet
sponge
[i dont remember this one]
silva wings

wingslot extra

using cosmic shiv

my main issue is the dash timing

[empty flame]

fair

i mean this all looks alright

[maiden cobalt]

he sometimes fakedashes then dashes or fulldashes

• i cant seem to get on rhythm with the hyperdashes

[empty flame]

for me what i did when i was playing true melee was just to rebind the dash key

[maiden cobalt]

i did that

its on mouse4

[empty flame]

but yeah yharon sucks

[empty flame]

nice nice

[neon stag]

Is this infernum?

[maiden cobalt]

mhm

i tried ambergris but it ruins the hyperdash timing

[neon stag]

honestly, I would get rid of the ambrosial ampoule by now

absorber too

[empty flame]

i would also think about changing weapons tho

[maiden cobalt]

i lack options otherwise

[empty flame]

absorber is nice for yharon imo

[neon stag]

Yeah theres better weapon options too

[maiden cobalt]

such as?

[empty flame]

ambrosial ampoule for blood pact prolly

[maiden cobalt]

... you need a really good reason to drop ampoule

that thing heals me so much

[neon stag]

I would go for charm of myths + blood pact for the synergy

[empty flame]

murasama is a classic

[maiden cobalt]

hm

[empty flame]

fair

[neon stag]

Essence flayer, cosmic discharge

[empty flame]

ambrosial ampoule needs to go tho blood pact just does all that better

[maiden cobalt]

which ones cosmic discharge again

[neon stag]

If youre true melee the best option is enforcer

[maiden cobalt]

the whip?

im not true melee

[neon stag]

just handing out options

[maiden cobalt]

fair

[neon stag]

Excelsus is one of the best options

[maiden cobalt]

how even might i ask

[empty flame]

cool dungeon

[neon stag]

excelsus essence flayer and cosmic discharge

[maiden cobalt]

that regen while low is invaluable

[neon stag]

Blood pact is just better

[maiden cobalt]

ill give cosdis and excel a peep

[neon stag]

You get an upgrade to ambrosial post yharon btw

[empty flame]

blood pact is genuinely broken at that stage

[maiden cobalt]

i know that

[neon stag]

you will only take it off for 1 boss

[maiden cobalt]

i <3 radiance

ill. give it a look

so itd be
godslayer armor, melee
absorber
blood pact
the amalgam
asgardian aegis
elemental gauntlet
sponge
charm of myths
silva wings
?

everythings on warding btw

[frank mauve]

no u dont understand u need absorber and warding for dog

[neon stag]

Swap darksun ring for charm of myths

[maiden cobalt]

mkay

[neon stag]

[neon stag]

Absorber is good for scal!!1!

[frank mauve]

what would absorber even do at that stage 🤔

[maiden cobalt]

so this'd be fine?

[neon stag]

Bro regeneraga is OP

And you get +12% jump boost

[frank mauve]

12% jump boost?!?!?!

[neon stag]

Yes

[frank mauve]

im sold!!

[maiden cobalt]

alrighty

[empty flame]

i mean like technically omega blue is still better but if you need survivability godslayer is the go

[neon stag]

Dude ive had so many people in here try to convince me that the absorber is good, im starting to feel like a modern human in the midst of neanderthal troglodytes

[empty flame]

drop absorber after ml lowkey

especially in infernum

[neon stag]

omegablue is only better in a perfect world in the perfect scenario where you take practially 0 hits

[empty flame]

but i like it for ml

[neon stag]

I would say its best to keep god slayer on for the panic dash

[frank mauve]

i need to use it and acc see if it lives up to it

[neon stag]

It doesnt

In a normal run, its almost never the best option to have

ive had multiple challenge runs where its actually a very clutch item but it just doesnt hold as much value in infernum as it does in base cal

[frank mauve]

dang

[smoky dock]

The Absorber is literally peam I swear

[empty flame]

can you still fish up riptide amulet still what

[smoky dock]

I used it to beat guards sub-40

[neon stag]

Yes

[empty flame]

i swear it used to be everywhere

[shy quest]

holy shit i hate goozma so bad 😭😭😭😭

[smoky dock]

It was important for lowering the DR of Defender to beat her before the Slam Jam concludes

[shy quest]

HOW DO YOU DODGE HIS MINION ATTACKS

HE WONT STOP GOONING BRO

[neon stag]

While I dont really see a point in using it when going for a speed kill, im not saying its bad

I just think it gets outshined by all the other very great defensives

[smoky dock]

Absorber Affliction reduces the DR of the target by some like, multiplicative value

The reason why Absorber is good is because it does everything at the same time

[shy quest]

im not even having fun anymore i just want to kill this slimy bastard

[neon stag]

Hmm, I forgot about this part

[empty flame]

i love you abyssal amulet

[neon stag]

Its the same effect as baroclaw, correct?

[empty flame]

WHERE IS THE TRAVELLING MERCHANT

[smoky dock]

Ursa Sergeant might offer more defense, Fairy Boots more consistent regeneration, aBrain more damage, but Absorber does ALL of that at the same time PLUS more

[neon stag]

[smoky dock]

No, it’s stronger

[neon stag]

I use abyssal amulet for every boss in phm except one of em

[smoky dock]

Absorber Affliction is a 200 DPS Sickness debuff that reduces DR by like, 0.8x or 0.5x or something I don’t remember

[neon stag]

Absorber is also obtained like 20 bosses later in progression

😭

[smoky dock]

Yeah but Ursa Sergeant and Fairy Boots and aBrain are insanely stupid strong

[neon stag]

True

Fairy boots especially.

[smoky dock]

And Absorber also does way, way more than just that

Grants mobility of multiple flavors, offense in multiple ways, and many varieties of defense all at the same time

[empty flame]

i love you fairy boots

[maiden cobalt]

the combo seems fine

excel seems to underperform compared to cosmic shiv

will try discharge later

[frank mauve]

apparently shiv is worse than that ark weapon

[maiden cobalt]

huuuuuh

who said that

[neon stag]

Shiv is ahh

[smoky dock]

they’re both bad

[maiden cobalt]

what

[frank mauve]

yeah i seen the times recently

ark had better times

[maiden cobalt]

what are yall on about

shiv is goated

[neon stag]

Excelsus is a very good option

[maiden cobalt]

its consistant damage and kinda just shreds through the nugget

[neon stag]

Better than shiv, at the very least

[smoky dock]

Why are you using a rang*r weapon on melee

[maiden cobalt]

???

what

[frank mauve]

theyre calling u a fake meleer

[neon stag]

If you want consistent damage just go for the essence flayer

its full homing braindead

[maiden cobalt]

oh is this a true melee area

[neon stag]

Gets a good killtime too

[maiden cobalt]

ahh.

[smoky dock]

Omega blue weaponless, Phosphorescent Gauntlets, Murasama

[maiden cobalt]

jesus christ man

name checks out

[smoky dock]

👍

[maiden cobalt]

go worship your sun or whatever it is

[neon stag]

weaponless yharon makes me wanna rip my skin off

[smoky dock]

real

[neon stag]

[frank mauve]

hey u can do it

just survive for 4 min

[smoky dock]

the unfortunate thing is I think OB weaponless would get the fastest time out of all of the options I mentioned

[frank mauve]

tentacles working 24/7

[smoky dock]

yeah

[maiden cobalt]

okay see me personally i play melee because it looks cool not because true melee exists

[neon stag]

Ive only put in like 15-20 tried iirc, I really should just man up and beat weaponless yharon

[maiden cobalt]

true melee is dragon rage and thats it

[smoky dock]

wow

[neon stag]

But its just the fact that after yharon theres 2 even harder bosses

[frank mauve]

starlight exists though

[maiden cobalt]

look im not a timemaxxer i like to have fun and frolick

[frank mauve]

js do scal first

shes free

[maiden cobalt]

eeh

[smoky dock]

how do you have the patience to fight hardmode and early moon lord

[neon stag]

True melee is the best class in the game

[maiden cobalt]

wdym

[neon stag]

I get 0 upgrades from her tho

[frank mauve]

scom and calamity...

[smoky dock]

SCal unlocks enchantments which are peammmm

[maiden cobalt]

i used myrendael for infernum profaned and elemental shiv

[neon stag]

[maiden cobalt]

or the hammer

the hammer was also very good

[frank mauve]

calamity the best weaponless accessory

[smoky dock]

i use true melee and i can’t play for longer than 60 seconds without opening tiktok and instagram reels and yourube shorts

[neon stag]

allat just to get negative diffed by stellar striker/gilded proboscis kill times

[smoky dock]

so i need a really good wwapon for boss fights

[neon stag]

Is it?

[maiden cobalt]

not a timemaxxer, im a funmaxxer

[neon stag]

wait if its actually good then weaponless might be possible

[maiden cobalt]

i will play with joy in my soul

[neon stag]

if I get a good offensive option for exos ill do it

[frank mauve]

i did scal in like 7min then exos in 4min

[smoky dock]

toxic shart is basically cheating

[neon stag]

with luxors?

[frank mauve]

no one is using toxic shart in an actual weaponless run

[frank mauve]

i redid it without

[smoky dock]

if you optimize shart strats then you can beat the game easily

[atomic locust]

bruh i cant get the statis' curse bc one of my mods makes it so where the recipe needs necroplasm

[neon stag]

What makes toxic heart so good?

Ive seen multiple people talk about it being OP

[smoky dock]

necroplasm is obtainable immediately after moom lors

[smoky dock]

There are a few factors

[frank mauve]

cheese strat

[maiden cobalt]

of course

[frank mauve]

get negative life regen and some statues

cant forget the stealth scaling

[neon stag]

Oh wait

[maiden cobalt]

dude im gonna look in here one day and hear that swordsplosions good because of a cheese that lets the sword swing like a fetid bakhnakhs and just nuke bosses with swords

[smoky dock]

But the most infamous is the one where you just use critter statues to create strong recursive pulses and healing

[neon stag]

Stealth scaling works on it?

[smoky dock]

Yes

Toxic Heart is a rogue accessory

[neon stag]

that might save weaponless in that case

[frank mauve]

u can also just use psycho knife with melee though

[atomic locust]

yeah ik but one of my mods making it require necroplasm is a problem since normally statis' curse is a pre moon lord accessory

[neon stag]

lowkey gotta try it out

[smoky dock]

Oh I see now

[maiden cobalt]

the summoner item or the mobility item

[smoky dock]

Womp womp

[shy quest]

is it me or does infernum just feel like torture after yharon

[frank mauve]

nah cuz if u wanna use it u wouldnt even bother moving

[smoky dock]

I used Toxic Heart in nohits

[atomic locust]

summoner

[frank mauve]

empress?

or any other bosses

[smoky dock]

Empress, Fishron

[frank mauve]

ive seen the empress one

[smoky dock]

Eol was peam

[shy quest]

i need help with scal 🥀

because ranger is trash

[frank mauve]

sponge

also

why are u not using the fargos accessories

[shy quest]

and i made the mistake of playing ranger

[shy quest]

what

who does that for infernum bro 🥀

[frank mauve]

who plays fargos and infernum bro 🥀

[shy quest]

oh ur talking about the enchants in my vanity

those were purely for banner grinding

ok but im getting cooked really badly

[frank mauve]

dang i didnt see the sponge earlier

if u do get hit alot in a row invest in rampart of deities

[neon stag]

This looks like a good build to me

Go get those attempts in 👍

[smoky dock]

Rampart of Deities is a fantastic accessory anyways

[frank mauve]

yeah its ur average setup

[neon stag]

its a difficult fight, just go learn it

[frank mauve]

true

[smoky dock]

The Amalgam is something to use with caution and I’m not sure how exactly it works

[maiden cobalt]

its a dodge

[smoky dock]

Amalgam and Sponge interact strangely

[maiden cobalt]

sponge breaks if amalgam dodges

(To my disdain.)

[smoky dock]

Not quite

When you get hit, first the damage is reduced by your defense and DR (Sponge incuded)

Then it’ll hit your shield

Then if it breaks the shield, it hits your health

The Amalgam will dodge hits that hit your health, but the cooldown will only consider the damage you took to your health

[maiden cobalt]

doesnt the shield completely absorb the damage

like even if >180, the damage is just set to 180

[smoky dock]

Only if the attack was weak enough to be blocked by the shield

[shy quest]

i cant read her telegraphs on condemnation

[smoky dock]

No, it’s a second health bar

[atomic locust]

what should i use since i cant get statis' curse?

[maiden cobalt]

since when was it like that

[elder nebula]

tldr: sponge makes amalgam dodge recharge faster but you'll take way more damage between dodges than just using sponge

[smoky dock]

Her crossbow will tilt in the opposite direction she’s about to fire it

[maiden cobalt]

hhaaalllowweedd ruuunee. maaaybe. perhaps.

or amalgamated brain

[smoky dock]

With reasonably high defense you can find hitboxes that only hit Sponge for 1 damage and you’ll see Sponge eats them up

[shy quest]

no like i literally cant because my weapons are obstructing it

[smoky dock]

womp womp

Keep your distance then and find a gap

[maiden cobalt]

okay so if im spongepilled then i presume i dont want amalgam or

[atomic locust]

alr alr

[smoky dock]

It’s debatable whether Amalgam is a good idea with Sponge or not

Amalgam is not a super fantastic top tier accessory in the first place so using it at all is debatable

[maiden cobalt]

as a guy whos getting hit with 300+ damage uberdashes is it good

[smoky dock]

try it and see I guess

[maiden cobalt]

(bc i am running out of accs that are usable.)

i have been its resulting in odd results

[smoky dock]

There are lots of them

[maiden cobalt]

yes but some are bad (chalice) and others are good

[smoky dock]

Dark Sun Ring, Rampart of Deities, Statis’ Void Sash, and Chalice of the Blood God are all frequently overlooked

[maiden cobalt]

im pre-yharon

rampart is goated but also eh

[frank mauve]

dsr pls

[maiden cobalt]

CotBG sucks so hard idk why people call it good

[smoky dock]

Oh you’re fighting Yharon then?

[maiden cobalt]

i get hit once and insta die from bleedout

[frank mauve]

use dsr

[smoky dock]

Yeah that’s what it does

[maiden cobalt]

my gear

[smoky dock]

Chalice of the Blood God caps all incoming damage to 5 tops

BUT

The damage you WOULD have taken otherwise is converted to a debuff

[maiden cobalt]

yea im aware of that

and the debuff instagibs me

[frank mauve]

what would absorber even do against yharon

[smoky dock]

If you die to the debuff, then you would have died without Chalice

[smoky dock]

Absorber Affliction, jump speed, aaaaaand the health rebate aaand Regeneraga

[maiden cobalt]

yea but i still bleed out and that mentally sucks

instead of dying to a force i knew, i die to some random debuff

[smoky dock]

Drink a potion right after you get hit and you cancel the debuff

[shy quest]

is sludge shaker my best option here

[maiden cobalt]

mmmm no i dont think it does

[shy quest]

im running old hunt + wotg

[smoky dock]

That’s the effect that turns Chalice from mediocre at best to useful

[maiden cobalt]

i chug a point and still bleedout

[frank mauve]

just use dsr lowk

[maiden cobalt]

ah yes

+2 regen

[smoky dock]

Dank Sun Ring is peam

[maiden cobalt]

its good but its not absorber

[smoky dock]

Yeah but it’s 40 defense

And 12% damage

[maiden cobalt]

...?

its

[shy quest]

wait

[maiden cobalt]

+10

[shy quest]

is halibut also viable

[maiden cobalt]

this is all im gaining from it

[smoky dock]

Dark Sun Ring grants 10 defense
It gains 20 MORE defense if you’re fighting at night
The 2 minion slots can be used on Brittle Stars for 10 more defense

[maiden cobalt]

its forced day

[shy quest]

the base damage is dogshit but idk if i wanna sacrifice a slot for armor pen

[smoky dock]

Set it to eclipse

[maiden cobalt]

why do i want more defense

that just gets instacrushed

[frank mauve]

are u getting hit alot in a row?

[maiden cobalt]

... yes

quite a lot indeed

[smoky dock]

Ooooh Deific Amulet then

[frank mauve]

then use rampart of deities

[maiden cobalt]

dont have rampart

[frank mauve]

or is it post yharon

[maiden cobalt]

infernum yharon

[frank mauve]

then deific amulet work just as good

[rare crest]

is rpgue any decent in infernum ?

rogue

[smoky dock]

Yharon is the fight that changed my opinion on Deific from “This shit sucks ass” to “I’m never taking this off”

[frank mauve]

yes

[smoky dock]

Very strong… if you use it right!

[maiden cobalt]

deific seems fine but it kinda seems underwhelming

underwhelming amuletjob

[rare crest]

seem to be stuck on slime god aym

atm

[frank mauve]

well u do get hit alot in a row so u use it and try

[maiden cobalt]

ill see

[smoky dock]

Being able to avoid a hit you would have taken otherwise is an incredibly strong effect

[frank mauve]

u get the best weapons after skeletron so what are u using 🤔

[shy quest]

metal monstrosity 🤤

[rare crest]

currently using lionfish/enchanted axe but i only killed skeletron about an hour ago

[maiden cobalt]

yea but i can also figure out the dash timing and completely negate the damage

[smoky dock]

sick cane…..

[maiden cobalt]

(the hyperdashes have been killing me)

((i need to be perfectly in rhythm or i perish))

[smoky dock]

if you’re doing this perfectly, you wouldn’t be losing

[frank mauve]

well slick cane with 2 platinum can deal gigantic damage but that requires u to get close, metal monstruosity is good and easier to use

[maiden cobalt]

well yes

... would deific go over amalgam

[smoky dock]

Deific Amulet gives you extra time to get back into the swing of things after you get hit

[rare crest]

what armour ? im currently aerospec