calamity-addon-talk

[frank mauve]

oh fun

[main stump]

first 2 phases are pretty fun but the last one is absolute dogshit

[neon stag]

you should jsut go full dps and melt them

[floral matrix]

Ironically despite the multiplayer jank, me and my friend have been doing infernum. I feel like I'd have a much harder time without him

[main stump]

thats what im trying

its just last phase moves too fucking much

[frank mauve]

thats js cuz multiplayer is easy in general

[mystic lion]

i reckon you should get the normality relocator and teleport to the left side of the beam

and another suggestion dodge outwards and up instead of down

cause youll get pinched inside a tiny corner

[neon stag]

infernum isnt built around multiplayer and it breaks alot of the AI, so multiplayer is alot easier than singleplayer

[mystic lion]

yeah infernum is meant to just be a challenge for yourself

[dense eagle]

if you cant fight the boss

[main stump]

the fuck is normality relocator

[dense eagle]

its obviously easier xd

[mystic lion]

rod of discord you dont needa hold out

[dense eagle]

but overall, multiplayer everywhere is easier

[frank mauve]

why do u look so slow what are ur wings

[main stump]

vortex stealth mode

[frank mauve]

yeah maybe dont use stealth mode until u reach that crystal

[neon stag]

this looked like pretty much a perfect fight, just fumbled at the end

[main stump]

its like that genuinely every single attempt

[neon stag]

its for the micromovements bro, he doesnt have the relic of convergence yet so how is he going to dodge the enemy attacks

[frank mauve]

bro hes skipping everything💔

[neon stag]

the vortex stealth mode slow is for the budget relic of convergence

[frank mauve]

how is this fun ngl

[neon stag]

superradiant moment

💔

or really just a guardians moment

theres multiple classes that can do that

[frank mauve]

omg i beat guardians but forget the fact that it lasted 20 seconds!!!1!1!1!!

[main stump]

the reason im using this weapon is because i hate this fucking fight

its so dogshit i cant see a thing

the bloom is awful

[mystic lion]

the guardians is a fodder fight anyways

[frank mauve]

bro wha

[mystic lion]

even if you take it slow its not even fun

[neon stag]

aether monolith in the vanity slot moment

[main stump]

its genuinely a 0/10 fight

[frank mauve]

in the video the fight is so clear

[main stump]

not fun whatsoever thats why im just melting it

[neon stag]

^^

[frank mauve]

guards is top 3 boss in the mod

[main stump]

not in my eyes bro

i cant see worth a fuckin damn

[mystic lion]

said noone EVER

[main stump]

bottom 3 maybe

[neon stag]

aether monolith

[frank mauve]

turn on refuced graphical settings then

or monolith

[main stump]

whats that

[frank mauve]

both help

[neon stag]

an item

helps with visual clarity during bossfights

[mystic lion]

it makes ur back ground like fully black

so its a lot easier to see attacks

[neon stag]

not fully black

[main stump]

how do i get it

[frank mauve]

theyre genuinely so fun

[mystic lion]

like

[main stump]

thats what im askin

[neon stag]

shimmer an angel statue

[main stump]

ive genuinely never had less fun with a fight

[frank mauve]

oop wrong ping

[main stump]

i fought it normally the first like 30 attempts

[neon stag]

true

[main stump]

still couldnt beat the last phase

the first 2 phases are fun

[neon stag]

you havent even beat the boss

[frank mauve]

the last phase is like

[main stump]

the last 1 is dogshit

[neon stag]

you cant really have an opinion

on if its fun or nah

😭

[frank mauve]

how is the last 1 so bad

[mystic lion]

in vanilla calamity theyre too easy for it to be fun

[main stump]

yes i can????

[frank mauve]

its lowkey easier

[main stump]

im still fighting the boss and making it to the end

[neon stag]

"I think scal is fucking ass, from the videos ive seen"

[main stump]

i can have an opinion on it

[neon stag]

if youve made it to the end you beat the boss

[frank mauve]

yeah thats why inf guards got the best rework compared to vanilla

[main stump]

i made it to the last phase MULTIPLE times

ive experienced the boss fight MULTIPLE times

just because i havent beaten it doesnt mean i cant have an opinion on it

its fucking shit

[neon stag]

what youre doing right now is cheesing the boss using a minmaxxed damage setup, getting to the end in about a grand total of 15 seconds

of course youre not enjoying the fight

[main stump]

my first 30 attempts i used normal weapons

made it to the last phase

MULTIPLE TIMES

did not have fun on the last phase

every other phase is ok

im not enjoying the fight because its ass

i didnt have fun on my normal attempts either

[frank mauve]

lets leave it at that

[mystic lion]

ykw

[frank mauve]

its subjective afterall 🤔

[mystic lion]

ill tell you my opinion after i beat them again

cause to be fair

it has been a good month or so since i have

also i kinda just

shredded them on rogue

[frank mauve]

i fought guards for like 9min 3 days ago ngl

[main stump]

ill go back to fight them again with normal weapons

just to show that i just do not find them fun whatsoever

i cant see worth a damn because theres too much visual clutter

[mystic lion]

really? my guards fights normally dont last that long

[neon stag]

probably a challenge run

[frank mauve]

yeah that

[neon stag]

iirc, they were doing mid human tmelee

[frank mauve]

u know what weapon

starlight and chainsaw man

[silk void]

What are some other calamity add ons that work well with Infernum?

[mystic lion]

yeah that makes sense

[neon stag]

I did my tmelee guardians starlight only earlier, even with HOAD its ahh 💔

[neon stag]

wrath of gods

[mystic lion]

wrath of the gods is beautiful

[frank mauve]

yeah its a pre cultist weapon after all

[neon stag]

I genuinely dont know how you did that fight with mid human rules, tmelee starlight only was so boring

[silk void]

I see, thank you

[frank mauve]

i had to use chainsaw more when i was close ngl

[main stump]

i cant place the aether monolith in the profaned garden

[neon stag]

vanity slot

[mystic lion]

put it in ur vanity slot

[frank mauve]

cuz i didnt use starlight alone lol

[neon stag]

soo

how do I do polter tmelee 💔

[frank mauve]

holy collider and uhh

grax?

[neon stag]

holy collider is probably my only on tier option

[frank mauve]

and slag

[fading dove]

i wonder if there's a better weapon than gel dart for wof

[neon stag]

💔

[fading dove]

very slowly

[neon stag]

I hate the grax

[frank mauve]

i used it

[fading dove]

also yeah its holy collider

p1 is like 80% of the fight so get used to it

[neon stag]

I used the grax in tools only dog

its such an ahh weapon

[neon stag]

I think ill be fine, the fight is easy (thank god)

[frank mauve]

i used it against dog not knowing lion heart was allowed

[fading dove]

you still have to do p2, p3, and desp though

[main stump]

yeah that genuinely makes the fight 1 billion times easier

[neon stag]

I lowkey never use lion heart

[main stump]

i got him to 10%

[fading dove]

even if they are easy, nerves are gonna be tough

[neon stag]

such a forgettable weapon

[frank mauve]

fr

[main stump]

it was genuinely just the background fuckin me up

[frank mauve]

but yeah polter shouldnt too bad

[silk void]

Do melee effect mods make worm bosses easier?

[fading dove]

lion heart isn't forgettable once you realise its the most consistent high end weapon for inf dog

[neon stag]

yesnt

[fading dove]

they make everything easier

[neon stag]

depends on the weapon

[fading dove]

by giving you a biome blade that just butchers everything

[main stump]

can i not use the relic of convergence on the profaned guardians fight?

[silk void]

Ah, I see

[neon stag]

@frank mauve 💔

[frank mauve]

isnt there much better weapons for dog

[neon stag]

the micromovements 💔

[main stump]

my fuckin bad for asking a question

i js wanted to heal

[frank mauve]

he needs to use it for the micromovement bro get the strat

[fading dove]

corinth prime is inconsistent

and is the only stronger weapon

[vital swift]

Hello

[neon stag]

dont use it

[frank mauve]

ohh

[fading dove]

hello

[vital swift]

Does anybody know when the next update is coming?

[frank mauve]

yes

[fading dove]

no

[frank mauve]

its coming soon

[vital swift]

K

[frank mauve]

thats all

[fading dove]

nobody knows and i really do mean nobody

[vital swift]

K

Thanks still bye for now

[mystic lion]

everytime someone asks it gets delayed for a year

[frank mauve]

my name is nobody

so i know

[main stump]

this is probably the worst boss fight in this mod so far though

i gen hate infernum profaned guardians

[neon stag]

bro fought moonlord like one boss ago and already forgot how shit the fight it 💔

[mystic lion]

moonlord sucks

[main stump]

i beat moon lord 2nd try

he was easy

this boss sucks like 1 billion times more

[neon stag]

easy =/= good boss fight

[main stump]

yeah but this boss is hard and shit

so its like 10x worse

than an easy bad boss

at least when its easy i can brush past it

[neon stag]

guardians arent hard tho? 💔

[main stump]

fuck ur ego bro

its not easy for everyone

[neon stag]

you literally sent a clip of you playing pmuch perfectly for the first half of the fight and then smashing your feet on the keyboard and dying to the easiest phase on the boss fight

you sent proof of the bossfight being easy 😭

[frank mauve]

bro mies started playing the game just last week hes like u💔

[main stump]

im genuinely just blocking you you piss me off with how you speak

[neon stag]

I was born last week

[frank mauve]

oh yeah right mb

i meant to say that

[neon stag]

typical calamity player

[main stump]

not everyone is equally skilled???

people can just be better than other people you know that right

im not good at this

[frank mauve]

oh yeah i just learned that today actually

[main stump]

yeah i can tell

[neon stag]

whats my tmelee wep for dog

can be any weapon you can think of other than like stellar striker or holy collider

[frank mauve]

breaker blade

u cant use slag

[neon stag]

ok

breaker blade is lowkey goated

[frank mauve]

also only massive is allowed

no other reforge

[neon stag]

I have to turn the reforge rework off then

[main stump]

ive never had this little fun with a boss in my life

its just projectile spam in the worst possible way

[frank mauve]

@neon stag its visual clutter slop

[neon stag]

you should use omniscience potions

[neon stag]

😭

[fading dove]

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH ARCHERFISH

[mystic lion]

who actually thought giving destroyer a mini laser grid phase as well as like mini nukes that do 1000 damage each was a good idea

[dense eagle]

🐟 🏹

[frank mauve]

u finallt have a chance now

[fading dove]

it requires playing in tmelee range

[main stump]

is there genuinely any better cheese for profaned guardians

i just want to kill this boss idc what it takes

[dense eagle]

Skip him

[main stump]

you cant?

[fading dove]

sadly guardians are one of two bosses that can't be toxic hearted

you can?????

prov isn't required for progression

[main stump]

yeah ill just progress further then

and come back once i have a better weapon

[frank mauve]

fight the 3 kos or polter

[fading dove]

your next best weapon is

post dog

[main stump]

yeah id rather fight dog than this boss in all honesty

[frank mauve]

fight old duke

[main stump]

how do i get the sigil again

i forgot

[fading dove]

crafting or kill prov

[frank mauve]

u can also fight dog straight away

[fading dove]

superradiant is barely usable for inf dog btw

[gloomy wedge]

Keep on dying until you get better

[frank mauve]

is it really that bad

[main stump]

no way! i didnt know i could do that!

[gloomy wedge]

That is the #1 most reliable way to beat any boss

[fading dove]

guardians are the best fight in inf imo

[main stump]

its almost like ive been fighting it for 3 hours and genuinely have a skill issue!

[gloomy wedge]

How do you fix that skill issue then

[frank mauve]

then make it a skill overload

[wet plover]

what do i do, if this attack always crashes my game

[gloomy wedge]

You keep dying

[onyx igloo]

eat him

[main stump]

by fighting bosses further in and just use more powerful weapons against it

[frank mauve]

wha

[mystic lion]

just did

[onyx igloo]

how

[onyx igloo]

baguette worm

[wet plover]

idk every time he starts to do it, my game freezes

[neon stag]

they said barely usable, which means its viable

superradiant isnt good for dog but its not the worst option available

[onyx igloo]

hm, skip boss or eviscerate her later game

[frank mauve]

wouldnt it be good if u used it as melee and coiled

[neon stag]

you still get like a sub 3 min kill

[wet plover]

i guess i mean its all good untill he starts doing that sad

[neon stag]

I havent tried it, ill do a superradiant only dog today and find out

[frank mauve]

[onyx igloo]

Become fix it felix

and hit your pc with a hammer

hammers fix everything

[wet plover]

noo my 1650gpu is crying

[fading dove]

or a wrench

[fading dove]

no its specifically your cpu

if your gpu is under stress that's not from tmod

[frank mauve]

i think ice or rice would fix ur pc better

[onyx igloo]

a key?

[gloomy wedge]

This is true. Dump your PC in 30 pounds of rice

[onyx igloo]

keys open things

let's you open to hit with hammer

[frank mauve]

what if its frozen rice

🧠

[gloomy wedge]

WAIT

You might be onto something there

[onyx igloo]

frozen rice with hammer

[frank mauve]

hammer made from frozen rice

[onyx igloo]

and bread to eat while fixing

[frank mauve]

why not an apple to keep the doctor away

[onyx igloo]

we are engineers, innovators of the next generation

Has anyone had the question why the astral chunk summons Astrum aureus

same thing with the eye of desolation

[frank mauve]

we just play the game and dont question it

[onyx igloo]

yeah but like does aureus eat it since it's a robot

how does a chunk of space matter summon an infected machine from the cosmos

[rugged raptor]

Food

[frank mauve]

cuz hes attracted to the food

so u summon him by showing him the food

[main stump]

how do i dodge shadow slash

[frank mauve]

and then u hide the food and now hes trying to kill you

[onyx igloo]

by moving

[main stump]

blocked

[frank mauve]

signus?

[main stump]

yeah

[frank mauve]

as soon as the screen turn black dash the other direction u were moving from

[onyx igloo]

move different direction

[main stump]

like it just seems to be undodgable

[main stump]

oh ok ty

[rugged raptor]

The starting position of the slashes predicts where ur going

[onyx igloo]

that's the point, you move the other direction to dodge and if you don't it's undodgable

[rugged raptor]

So when ur screen goes dark go the other way

[fading dove]

you can also outrun it if you're at max vertical speed iirc

[onyx igloo]

same with nd

the slashes do the same thing

because ND is a dickhead

[rugged raptor]

Ill be honesst it kinda needs better telegraphing

The signus one

[neon stag]

its already telegraphed, no?

[onyx igloo]

The screen darkens

That's your telegraph

[neon stag]

when he stops attacking and the screen darkens you dash to the opposite direction your walking

[rugged raptor]

Yea but its way too fast

[neon stag]

its not that hard to dodge, isnt there like a 1s timeframe between the telegraph and the attack

[onyx igloo]

That's the point

[rugged raptor]

Ig

[onyx igloo]

If it's too fast turn off frame skip

that's an extra 3 seconds

If it's still too fast, start taking lsd

That shit will get you moving faster than lightspeed

[neon stag]

what are my options for tmelee exos?

[onyx igloo]

Dragon rage

[frank mauve]

yeah

[fading dove]

yeah its drage

[onyx igloo]

only thing for exos and scal

[frank mauve]

or murasama if u want subpar damage

[fading dove]

tainted ataraxia if youve beaten scal

[onyx igloo]

so get used to it

[neon stag]

dragonrage is a fun weapon, ill take it

[onyx igloo]

and like 2 tiles of range but only on the last hit

[frank mauve]

its so small now

[neon stag]

does cosmic discharge count as tmelee?

[frank mauve]

no

[onyx igloo]

flails don't count

[frank mauve]

i think every flail isnt tmelee

[neon stag]

the pre boss flail you get from the jungle counts as tmelee damage

yaveteo bloom

[onyx igloo]

that's also a spear

[frank mauve]

but for variety sake u can fight scal first

[onyx igloo]

she's also harder though

[neon stag]

I most likely will, I dont need draedons heart

[fading dove]

i remember there was some talk of the whipflails (nebulash, solar eruption, cosmic discharge and the like) getting heroic melee damage

[neon stag]

I havent fought scal first in AGES

[onyx igloo]

But you also get iridescent excal I think

[frank mauve]

yeah but u get to use another tmelee weapon

[onyx igloo]

One of the attacks for it is tmelee if I recall

[fading dove]

iri is post exos AND scal

requires 3 ashes of annihilation and 3 miracle matter

[frank mauve]

yeah it needs shadowspec

[neon stag]

u need miracle matter

[onyx igloo]

i thought it was just ashes ngl

[frank mauve]

ohh not shadowspec

[fading dove]

you do get tainted from scal though which is pretty big

[onyx igloo]

What's the point of being after both if it's not shadowspec

sob

[frank mauve]

for fun

[fading dove]

fab dedicated weapon

[onyx igloo]

Oh

you mean fabsol as in the freaky weirdo that got fired or stepped down or wtv

[fading dove]

yeah it was only realised that iri was a dedicated item after the fabbening

yeah

nobody else liked avalon or exxo avalon really

[frank mauve]

truly fabsoling

[onyx igloo]

not very fabsol of you

but not everyone can sing fnaf the musical by memory

[frank mauve]

everyone can actually

its required in the citizenship test

[onyx igloo]

how did we get here

I need a Texas brisket

[frank mauve]

the minecraft achievement?

[main stump]

https://medal.tv/games/terraria/clips/lGaYwLODHULE_WTEE?invite=cr-MSxrY0QsMjg3NjQ4MDQ5&v=91

finally bro

worst boss in the game gone

[amber nova]

guardians are fun ngl

[main stump]

i had the opposite of fun

i gen just had to give up and cheese them

skipped an entire phase because i just didnt like them 😭

[onyx igloo]

Okay I had an idea

So I already talked about doing a run with vanquisher arrows or god slayer slugs on infernum with scaled bosses, what if I also do that inside Hardmode, in the very beginning

[frank mauve]

what

[onyx igloo]

I found a mod that starts hardmode immediately

[frank mauve]

wdym a run with vanquisher arrows

[onyx igloo]

I start off with them

[frank mauve]

doesnt that make it easier

[onyx igloo]

Yes

[pearl spade]

how the fuck should i dodge ares at infernum???

[onyx igloo]

But I barely play ranger

[onyx igloo]

Asgardian Aegis

[pearl spade]

i have it

so wat(

[frank mauve]

why not do the same thing except u dont get to start with vanquisher arrows

[onyx igloo]

okay good idea

[onyx igloo]

Should I still do it in hardmode though?

[frank mauve]

start in prehm

[onyx igloo]

alright

I haven't played Infernum in ages

Oh yeah when Mom cleaned my room she didn't even glance at my crucified dinosaur on the wall

[smoky dock]

Lmao???

[onyx igloo]

Ive had it there for like two months now

[main stump]

which one of the like rune bosses should i fight first

like which one is the "easiest"

none of them are easy but like which one is the least hard

[polar vigil]

Fucking phone

[fading dove]

why are you so slow

[fading dove]

weaver easily

[main stump]

vortex sneak

[fading dove]

weaver also gets eaten pretty hard by superradiant

[fading dove]

that doesnt really slow you down in the air

unless youre using bad wings

[main stump]

im using celestial tracers which aint that good icl

it just gave me an extra inventory slot

so i "upgraded"

[polar vigil]

Ah, well

Sorry for being late

[fading dove]

how

[last turtle]

What kind of blocks are the ones on the right "crater" in the above ss?

[fading dove]

astral ore

[main stump]

instead of using terraspark and wings i combined them

[last turtle]

Tyvm

[polar vigil]

As-

Yeag

[last turtle]

Looks amazing

[quasi venture]

whats the best melle weapon for nameless?

[fading dove]

you don't need boots with starboard

[fading dove]

iirc swap between tainted iri and triactis' hammer

[quasi venture]

k

[neon stag]

Triactis paladinian mage hammer of might

Is that how you spell it?

[fading dove]

forgot the true

[quasi venture]

ik what you mean

[neon stag]

[fading dove]

tainted iri when nameless is close up

[main stump]

where do i shoot storm weaver to do dmg again?

is it the tail or head

[neon stag]

head

[fading dove]

inf removes the colossal dr

anywhere is fine

[neon stag]

[main stump]

i just kinda suck at this game icl

like storm weaver is super easy but like i am just NOT dodging

whatsoever

[polar vigil]

And to clarify, I killed all bosses to that stage except Empress of Light

[glacial ferry]

king slime is more interesting that devaouror of gods

[polar vigil]

So, Idrk why they do not spawn

[main stump]

man i can barely get storm weaver to half

[supple mica]

Very nice. How did you get the loot to spawn right on you?

[main stump]

wdym

i think it just automatically does that

[supple mica]

When it died the loot, oh ok.

[fading dove]

oh you were down 25 max hp

[frank mauve]

jesus

is the lava chicken challenge supposed to be a bit hard or seomthing

[fading dove]

forgot the best looking hearts

[fading dove]

yeah

[frank mauve]

i used bit more defensish build and got it

[fading dove]

how

[frank mauve]

my dps was slow as hell

[fading dove]

defence doesnt matter?????

[frank mauve]

i had to use 2 loadouts

not defense

its other stuff

[fading dove]

what were your loadouts

[frank mauve]

my second loadout was used to remove the debuffs

[fading dove]

ignored the point of the challenge award

[frank mauve]

so i had like 3 debuffs left

tbf the rules werent clear enough so i js used whatever

[fading dove]

the point of the challenge isnt to cheese it by removing like 60% of it

[frank mauve]

yeah but its not like u werent spamming 3 trillion heart statues aswell

i limited the heart statues

[quasi venture]

help

[frank mauve]

is this nilk

[last dune]

help us sir

[quasi venture]

mbe

[neon stag]

amplified rain mod?

[fading dove]

drank the nilk award

[frank mauve]

no theyre just taking drugs

[lucid cypress]

ares solo? you dont

pair ares with another mech so their attacks are easier

[pearl spade]

so thanatos + eyes is a bad option?

[lucid cypress]

yes

i always found eyes+ares to be easiest

[main stump]

i genuinely dont know how to dodge infernum storm weaver

[dusty cobalt]

i didnt think this would actually deal damage

[fading dove]

thana + hunters is quite good if you've got a strong enough loadout to bust down ares with rippers

[fading dove]

whats this from

[pearl spade]

wotg i guess

[fading dove]

its apparently from some wotg addon because its not from wotg

wait

maybe the localisation file would have it

it's not listed in items

[dusty cobalt]

im not really sure since its my first time with the mod

also funny it only costed 1 lead ore

[maiden ridge]

wwhats best ranged weapon for nameless

[fading dove]

which mod

[dusty cobalt]

first time using wotg

[fading dove]

svantechnical with godslayer slugs

[fading dove]

well its sure as hell not from wotg

[lucid cypress]

i mean it does look like mars' stabby thing

[maiden ridge]

thx#

[fading dove]

you have bladecrest and that makes me sad

[lucid cypress]

i love 0:00/0:00 still image

thank you discord

[onyx igloo]

Okay

[fading dove]

discord is an amazing platform that functions perfectly

[dusty cobalt]

id rather not be using this it feels kinda zdps

[lucid cypress]

they still havent fixed this stupid bug of the screen refreshing in segments

[onyx igloo]

The only stat difference between demon and platinum bow is 1 knockback, but the stat difference between tendon and demon bow is 6 damage

But tendon is 5 speed slower

What the hell do I choose

[last dune]

yuh

[neon stag]

isnt that just good ol screen tear

I dont think its discord based, or maybe I understood you wrong

[dusty cobalt]

oh right its from this

[lucid cypress]

it is discord based

[dusty cobalt]

i thought it went with wotg so i got it

[lucid cypress]

i have to move my mouse around to make the chat refresh

only happens in discord

[night fractal]

All I know is that the strongest weapons pre boss for ranger are demon Bow, tendon bow, and flintlock pistol

all 3 are great

[neon stag]

boomstick?

or is that weaker than flintlock

[fading dove]

boomstick is post eoc

[neon stag]

buh?

[night fractal]

Boomstick is technically tiered post eye and also low-key might be worse than flintlock

Not sure though

[neon stag]

how is it post eye tho 🤔

[onyx igloo]

So I'm getting tendon then

[onyx igloo]

I'm doing bows only right now

[fading dove]

underground jungle is post eoc

[neon stag]

did flintlock get buffed in cal

[fading dove]

no

[night fractal]

yes

[onyx igloo]

Then I'll do guns or maybe guns and launchers

[neon stag]

huh

[night fractal]

I think flintlock got buffed substantially iirc

[onyx igloo]

I love my launchers despite how mediocre they are

[fading dove]

is flintlock buffed in dev or smth?

[night fractal]

no I don't think so

[fading dove]

the only cal buff to it is autofire which just got eaten up

[night fractal]

ah

nevermind then

[fading dove]

its just overshadowed by the flashy popular minishark

its quite strong even in vanilla

[neon stag]

afaik flintlock doesnt get better killtimes in vanilla when compared to boomstick though

[night fractal]

minishark gets nerfed by cal so its not so insane

[neon stag]

I have to do some testing

[fading dove]

if youre wondering how minishark does

[night fractal]

it depends on how close you can stay to the boss

[fading dove]

its pretty good

[onyx igloo]

I used flintlock against eye when i couldn't get Minishark, it's actually pretty decent

[night fractal]

Flintlock is better than Boomstick at a distance

[onyx igloo]

I prefer it over undertaker

[night fractal]

Boomstick is better up close

[onyx igloo]

But musket is definitely the best

[night fractal]

at least in cal it's not

Flintlock is notably better then musket in cal

[onyx igloo]

Dang I didn't know the shotgun weapon was good up close

[onyx igloo]

I still don't get why flintlock, the worst gun is obtained after getting a better gun in vanilla

[night fractal]

because flintlock just isn't the worst gun

[frank mauve]

is it a material at least

[fading dove]

i didnt realise that musket got a 9 damage nerf in cal wow

[night fractal]

yeah

[fading dove]

31 -> the devil's number

[night fractal]

Musket specifically is just brokeb

[onyx igloo]

damn bro

[fading dove]

undertaker gets a nerf too, 19 -> 15

[neon stag]

okay so that must be why flintlock feels so strong

they dont buff it, they just nerf other options on tier

[fading dove]

tungsten bullets lose 1 damage but get 4 updates instead of 2

[onyx igloo]

Is bar nautical good btw?

[night fractal]

so less dmg but faster travel

[onyx igloo]

The scourge

[fading dove]

yeah barinautical is quitegood

[onyx igloo]

I just know it's fast

[frank mauve]

do u just have these pictures on command

[onyx igloo]

Well damn

[fading dove]

nah i grab em

[weak spade]

Was it overpowered or something

[night fractal]

but yeah, in vanilla, flintlock is beaten by Boomstick, Minishark, and Musket

[night fractal]

Very

Musket is notoriously strong

[fading dove]

its just like really fucking strong and has a bunch of crit chance for some reason

[onyx igloo]

Less than 4 minute on cal clone with a post DS weapon

[weak spade]

Buff musket

[fading dove]

oh barinade

[night fractal]

Barinautical is from aquatic Scourge

[fading dove]

its eh

[weak spade]

It needs 100% crit rate

By default

[onyx igloo]

I forgot

[fading dove]

its been nothing but buffs in musket town

[onyx igloo]

The ds weapon name

[fading dove]

barinade

[onyx igloo]

I never use any of the weapons except the short sword and summon

[onyx igloo]

Is that one good

I meant to ask

[fading dove]

_ _

its alright

[elder nebula]

mid

[main stump]

is the storm any good for a bow

[onyx igloo]

So um

Ive never used bows that much on cal

What are the best arrows specifically

[frank mauve]

vanquisher

[fading dove]

weapon dependent

[onyx igloo]

Throughout the game

[fading dove]

some bows only convert wooden

[frank mauve]

use drata

from the start

[elder nebula]

the only bows genuinely worth using are blossom flux and contagion

[frank mauve]

but drata....

[fading dove]

ultima is quite good

[elder nebula]

cal has an underpowered bow problem

[onyx igloo]

Like pre evil, post evil, Hardmode, post plant, pre ml

[fading dove]

stormbow is another strong bow

[onyx igloo]

I already know holy fire and vanquisher are the best post ml

[elder nebula]

ig but P90 exists

[fading dove]

but yeah its really weapon dependent

[frank mauve]

unholy arrows

[fading dove]

p90 is also substantially worse than stormbow

[night fractal]

Incorrect

Clockwork Bow is right there

So is aerial bane

[main stump]

how bad is infernum ceaseless void

[fading dove]

not too bad

[main stump]

like cuz normal ceaseless is bad on its own 😭

[fading dove]

the camera is beneficial though might take some getting used to

[elder nebula]

you'd be stupid to not use superradiant

[frank mauve]

isnt aerial bane way worse in cal than it is in vanilla

[fading dove]

though you can (sadly) turn it off

[fading dove]

its a butcher button in vanilla

its A tier in cal

[main stump]

should i still use superradiant

[elder nebula]

yes

[frank mauve]

its still usable in cal

[onyx igloo]

i want to shoot myself with my bow

[main stump]

im getting sick of this weapon bro 😭

[onyx igloo]

WHY IS IT EVERYWHERE

LEAVE ME ALONE

[frank mauve]

i use it in vanilla but almost never in cal

[fading dove]

dont worry you have corinth for dog

[onyx igloo]

GET OUT OF MY HEAD

[elder nebula]

you could try uhh pristine fury ig

[fading dove]

oh yeah pristine fury is cool

[main stump]

whats that

[elder nebula]

still worse than superradiant but pretty good

[fading dove]

prov flamethrower

[elder nebula]

provi 10% drop

[frank mauve]

superradiant is stupid

[main stump]

oh i havent beaten provi yet

[elder nebula]

this is true

[elder nebula]

back to the superradiant mines with you

[onyx igloo]

Superradiant Slaughterer traumatized me

I remember using that on exos

[main stump]

that is the uglist fuckin camera

ive ever seen

[main stump]

how do i turn ts off

[fading dove]

config

[fading dove]

bit extreme

all it does is average the position between you and ceaseless

[night fractal]

reminds me of something I did

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406493898341613568/1429172393238073495/Terraria__Now_in_1D_2025-10-18_13-08-46.mp4?ex=68f52c03&is=68f3da83&hm=4f980717b5b655c00da708ecea47f7992ff2b70bb7101b90092c2c4c361de8c3&

[vital mulch]

waffle of flesh

[main stump]

ceaseless just telefrags me?

how do i dodge his like dark spheres in his first phase when im close

like i dont stop moving

but it still just hits me

[weak spade]

You’re not supposed to be constantly moving

Is this infernum

[main stump]

yeah

[onyx igloo]

Is blood rain bow better than the evil bows

[weak spade]

Forget what I said

[fading dove]

no

[onyx igloo]

olaybthanyoung

[main stump]

whats like the strategy bro ts makes no sense

[fading dove]

its good but not as good

[onyx igloo]

nvn i cangngtoe

[fading dove]

i usually stay on the floor

[onyx igloo]

WHAT IS MY KEEY KARD TOI G

[frank mauve]

what

[main stump]

could you like show me what you mean

[fading dove]

only really moving around during p3 or the one portal shockwave attack

[onyx igloo]

I can tyoe

Cantngtoe

Cant tyoe

Oh

Spanish keyboard

[fading dove]

yeah i can go record a ceaseless clear in a little bit

[onyx igloo]

Duh

[elder nebula]

take ur time

[fading dove]

im at work rn so just like give me an hour and a half

[onyx igloo]

It autocorrect for spanish

And I kept trying english

[main stump]

you could genuinely just say no bro

it aint that deep

[onyx igloo]

So it was messing up badly

[fading dove]

nah i kinda wanna fight ceaseless

[onyx igloo]

You fight everything with everything though

[weak spade]

You can always watch anyone else’s gameplay

[frank mauve]

its spamishing time

[onyx igloo]

I got that reference

Because I'm a PIRATE

[main stump]

see i used to do that but genuinely 99% of infernum players are a billion times better than me and i cannot replicate what they do

[frank mauve]

ur gonna be good 1 day

[onyx igloo]

Micro movement

[main stump]

no bro im just gonna brute force ts

[weak spade]

I just dodged the attacks, hope this helps!

[onyx igloo]

Then you're not goonna win

[weak spade]

Hope this helps!!

[main stump]

i mean it worked for guardians

[frank mauve]

no bro ur gonna be good 1 day

[onyx igloo]

Guardians is flappy bird and bullshit so you mainly gotta bs theirs

[frank mauve]

how do u get alot of living rainbow dye

[fading dove]

strange plant farm

i think

i forget if living rainbow is a traded dye

[frank mauve]

oh yeah the plantera thingy

ill have to wait till hm

[mystic lion]

was wondering why calclone was harder than usual

had 2 mining accessories on

luckily shes ez af

[frank mauve]

u werent using that necklace before right

[mystic lion]

i was

y

[elder nebula]

[mystic lion]

ion get it

[frank mauve]

why would u even use that accessory

[mystic lion]

idk

i dont got nothin else to use

heh

planterra was freelo

what a frickin nub

oo

thank you painting

[main stump]

this final phase ceaseless has

is genuinely so difficult bro

i dont even know if its a desperation phase because it can still take dmg

[onyx igloo]

Homing.

[main stump]

i can say words too you know

[onyx igloo]

Homing or Hitscan

[main stump]

dodging

hitting

i know to use a homing weapon bro 😭

[onyx igloo]

Or just better aim

What class

If you're ranger and you can't hit him with homing weapons or chlorophyte ammo then idk

[mystic lion]

leviathan secret attack

[onyx igloo]

The only thing stronger than the boss is the computer

[mystic lion]

BROH

this is ahh

[onyx igloo]

My world got corrupted when my mom unplugged the computer while cleaning even when I save and exited

And closed the app

Luckily crashing has a high likelihood to only go back to the previous save instead of deleting your world

[mystic lion]

and also

[frank mauve]

levi best boss

[mystic lion]

luckily tmod saves old saves as well

[onyx igloo]

yeah I wish they did that

[mystic lion]

you can get the old worlds in the files

[main stump]

ok why is there a mysterious rift in the dungeon now

do i gotta go in it?

[onyx igloo]

When my world got corrupted and I didn't have it backed up

[mystic lion]

AH

[onyx igloo]

You can

[main stump]

i tried n nothin happened

[onyx igloo]

But you don't have to

[main stump]

solyn isnt saying anything about it

[mystic lion]

thats odd normally you can find the old saves in your files

[onyx igloo]

Keep going inside further

And further

[main stump]

oh ok

[onyx igloo]

Wish I could, I was desperate dude that was my 2nd eternity death run

I was post ml

About to fight the guardians

And worse it didn't even save the player, could've gotten at least one

If I had the world I would've just cheated in whatever I didn't jave

[main stump]

yeah i cant go in it

[onyx igloo]

You should be able to interact and go inside

Like a yellow outline like a chest

[tall talon]

Random question......tmodloader keeps saying Calamity 2.0.3.6 when it loads my mods, but the wiki says 2.0.7.2 is out. I can't see a delete button, an update button, or anything. Do I have the latest?

[main stump]

no i cant do anything to it

[onyx igloo]

With smart cursor at least normally it's normal

[main stump]

yeah i just cant go in it

[onyx igloo]

No clue, if you don't just update it by unsubscribing and resubscribe in the steam page

[mystic lion]

try using the workshop in steam

[tall talon]

Ok, I'll try that.

Thanks!

[main stump]

is it cuz i have infernum?

[onyx igloo]

No clue

[main stump]

does wotg and infernum clash here

[onyx igloo]

Shouldn't

[main stump]

why aint like solyn sayin anythin about it

[onyx igloo]

Infernum should only clash with boss reworking mods

[onyx igloo]

Doesn't want to

So go investigate

Like every good white person in horror movies

White People To-Do List in Horror

1. Investigate
2. Be incredibly stupid
3. Split up
4. Last longer than the smart people who don't investigate
5. Die in the end or have infinite plot armor

[main stump]

wait do i have to kill providence?

i havent killed her yet

[onyx igloo]

No clue

I just killed everyone honestly

Even the npcs

[dense sleet]

Solyn's second quest is buggy as hell

All I can suggest is cheat in quest resetter and try again

[main stump]

i dont want to kill ceaseless again bro 😭

i might try killin providence rq

[onyx igloo]

Then cheat in Soma Prime and kill him

[main stump]

who?

[onyx igloo]

Post game weapon

Unless you have hunt/Goozma then you can't use soma

[dense sleet]

Quest resetter doesn't unflag bosses

The rift will still be there

You'll just have to do the keep again

[main stump]

wdym keep

i dont think i encountered a keep

[dense sleet]

Permafrost's Keep

[main stump]

oh yeah that

[frank mauve]

just do the solyn quests when u finish the gam

e

[onyx igloo]

If a really strong dude like permafrost just lives in a small little underground cabin where the hell did scal live before being banished and before yharim

I mean different lore and all

But where would a godlike entity live

Also I gotta eat spaghetti

[frank mauve]

she lived in an old house in the uk

[onyx igloo]

Oh right

That's where hell is

Of course she'd live in the uk

Cause that's hell

[main stump]

god i cant see in providences fight

[fading dove]

azafure pre yharmy, cave post yharmy

[main stump]

god why does providence AND guardians just suck on infernum

this is genuinely so annoying

[mystic lion]

WTF

[dense eagle]

they might seem anoying but they are pretty fun

[mystic lion]

twice in a row

[neon stag]

best class pre boss?

[mystic lion]

is something bugged??

[neon stag]

infernum hardcore

[dense eagle]

smth isnt right

[frank mauve]

prolly rogue

[neon stag]

no hellstone skip cuz I cba

[mystic lion]

FUUUCK

I HAVE TO DO ALL OF THE CRAFTING AGAIN

[main stump]

is there any way to like cheese providence

[neon stag]

whats the setup? I dont play rogue

[neon stag]

same build you used for guardians

[fading dove]

ranger due to ease of access and effective and safe weapons

[frank mauve]

i mean u can just go melee and play it safe

[main stump]

see that isnt working whatsoever

[dense eagle]

skip her

[mystic lion]

congrats

[neon stag]

get better

idk

its a good build

[main stump]

ur such a dick bro

genuinely pmo

[neon stag]

its true tho

what can I say

[dense eagle]

in infernum there is no other option really

[glacial ferry]

srry to say but i still didn't beated it

[neon stag]

you have a good speedkill build

[mystic lion]

aw

[dense eagle]

you will have lot of attempts

[neon stag]

you should be fine

[mystic lion]

well youre doing better than me

i had like 400

[main stump]

her health is not going down fast at all

[mystic lion]

300

[main stump]

there is no speedkill in this build

[mystic lion]

somewhere from that

[main stump]

ur js lyin

[neon stag]

she has phases with like 90%dr

[glacial ferry]

on infernum death calssic or wath?

[neon stag]

just learn the fight mf

[fading dove]

do you want a bulky but still incredibly strong loadout

[mystic lion]

uncle how the F&$*@ do i stop my game from crashin

[main stump]

damage reduction is so annoying for bosses

[main stump]

yes bro

i need to be able to take hits

i die in like 4 hits

cant learn shit

[mystic lion]

uhhhh i think like... uhhh idunno base infernum

[fading dove]

4 is a pretty good amount

[main stump]

no its not bro

its not enough to learn a single pattern

[glacial ferry]

im playng only expert rn : D

[fading dove]

also with eye of magnus

[glacial ferry]

skill issue idk what to say to me

[fading dove]

1 cell 1 axe rest plague engines

[mystic lion]

i swear if i have to start from just after i beat plantera again im just using cheat sheet to get my shi back

[fading dove]

cell and axe are there for free debuff

[neon stag]

wouldnt dryads tears be better bullets?

[main stump]

im a ranger what do i swap out the uh shadowheart thing with

[neon stag]

or does ichor stack with crumbling

[mystic lion]

so like are you doing infernum with or just expert

[neon stag]

thats a summoner loadout

[glacial ferry]

no infernum juust expert calamity

[neon stag]

wont work for ranger

[main stump]

i aint changing entire classes

[fading dove]

do you mean heart of darkness?

[neon stag]

then just get good

blud

[dense eagle]

you can only play infernum on expert

[fading dove]

the rage generation accessory?

[mystic lion]

YES I KEPT MY STUFF

[mystic lion]

i meant base calamity or infernum

[mystic lion]

how many playthroughs have u done

[main stump]

yeah ur genuinely so annoying you give zero actual good feedback and just say "just get good"

thats not advice bro

ur js a dick

[neon stag]

cuz your build is good, infernum is designed to be a challenging mod that offers hard bullet hell bosses

[dense eagle]

its rude but i also wouldnt recommend cheesing the boss

[neon stag]

you cant just expect every boss to be 5s cheese speedkills

[mystic lion]

is there even a way to cheese inf prov

[neon stag]

you need to actually learn the enemy attacks

[main stump]

every boss ive fought except for profaned guardians has been 5 minutes plus

[neon stag]

summoner/ranger with superradiant slaughterer gets insane kill times

[main stump]

these 2 bosses genuinely just arent fun to fight

JUST THESE 2

[dense eagle]

then smth is wrong with loadout

[main stump]

i genuinely like every other boss

[dense eagle]

5+min is a lot

[main stump]

slight hyperbole more like 3 mins

pre ml it was 5 mins per boss kill tho

[amber nova]

[glacial ferry]

i think one and a half but i was with my really good friend that have beaten solo fargo eternity before i even knew it soo when i play alone and is pretty hard

[mystic lion]

i thought that as well, then i fought DoG and i actually contemplated ending my run

[neon stag]

just learn the fight, providence is hard and shes meant to be hard, you cant expect to kill every boss in sub 10 attempts in your first ever infernum run

[dense eagle]

[fading dove]

prov's not too bad compared to guards

[dense eagle]

thats a lot if you arent playing true melee

[mystic lion]

well if youre like somewhat new yeah DoG is gonna be hard

[main stump]

storm waver, signus, and ceaseless void are also meant to be hard

but they do it right and are fun

[fading dove]

if you beat her polycule then you can beat her easy

[main stump]

its genuinely just these 2 bosses

i cant see their attacks

half the time

[glacial ferry]

is not like the other bosses gonna be easyer:

[fading dove]

oh thats violation of licensing on my tl.........

[dense eagle]

exodygen??

[main stump]

i just wish providences projectiles werent so like

hard to see

it was the same with the profaned guardians

[mystic lion]

imo yharons so easy vanilla

[main stump]

i cant like ever focus in on their attacks on infernum

[mystic lion]

uhh can someone remember the anahita summon

i forgot the name

the infernum one

[fading dove]

leviathan detector

[mystic lion]

thank yu

[main stump]

i might just skip providence until i can just be super overpowered

and kill her easily

she just isnt fun to fight

[mystic lion]

dude im telling you youre really gonna want the shield from her

[glacial ferry]

yea ik btw did anyone know about this boss:

[mystic lion]

and her weapons are good as

what on earth is that

[main stump]

id rather just not fight her

its not worth the mental strain

[fading dove]

hasnt sloome not been touched since 2022

[night fractal]

sloome

[fading dove]

what the fuck

it actually got an update this year

wonderful update

[glacial ferry]

idk i say it in a random thing in youtube and the boss was looking super cool and hard

[fading dove]

i'd recommend deleting calamity overhaul

[glacial ferry]

why

i like it

[fading dove]

check pins

[dense eagle]

can corrupt your files

[fading dove]

also it violates the AGPL of The Stars Above

[mystic lion]

the what