calamity-addon-talk

[fading dove]

summon for aoe

[late burrow]

wdym

[fading dove]

it brings down the rift in the sky

[late burrow]

i dont undestand is the rift to summon a boss?

so antiseed is to fight a boss

?

[fading dove]

yes, it's one of the four pieces to summon a boss

[late burrow]

oh ok

i see

thanks

[zealous slate]

is the punctus good (dropped from guardians) for pre providance

[dense ocean]

Is that from Infernum?

[frank mauve]

yeah it can be good

[vagrant prairie]

does wrath of the machines work in multiplayer

[zealous slate]

the right click isnt working for me do u know whu

why

any1 know how to increase the platform insta place limit on ore excavator'

[smoky dock]

no

[scarlet shadow]

you gotta hit an enemy a few times to use the right click

[zealous slate]

Ah ty

[scarlet shadow]

preferably after 3-6 hits so it would launch enough rocks for solid dps

[glad wind]

is this good enough for avatar of emptiness

[scarlet shadow]

replace Affliction with Shattered Community

[glad wind]

ok

[late path]

is there a killmyself button ingame?

[scarlet shadow]

the rest is good

[late path]

so i cna rest faster

[glad wind]

how do i get the shattered community

[scarlet shadow]

Rod of Discord while on any layer of the abyss

[late path]

mid bossifigh

[scarlet shadow]

exhume Community accessory via the brimstone witch npc

[scarlet shadow]

oh thats called standing still and dying

[glad wind]

how do i get the normal community

[scarlet shadow]

Anahita treasure bag

[glad wind]

gotcha thank you

[late path]

but the dog is in his invincibilitry portal

[glad wind]

leave and rejoin the world

[scarlet shadow]

why do you want to die there

[late path]

im -100 hp

[glad wind]

thats fine

[late path]

i know when my runs are gnna fail

[glad wind]

do a comeback

[scarlet shadow]

you dont need hp on dog's fight imo

[glad wind]

real

[late path]

im either max hp or -100

what do i do against dog phase 3

[vagrant raft]

this goes kinda hard

[fading dove]

why is it bright

the sun's supposed to be gone

[vagrant raft]

its 1 second frame bug before it goes dark lol

[vale heart]

whats the funnest class

or just a good class

early hardmode

fargo souls

[vagrant raft]

thrower

not rogue

[vale heart]

funny

[crystal acorn]

whats up with the portal that spawned after ceasless void

can i do smth with it

[late path]

go inside

[frank mauve]

did u talk to solyn

[crystal acorn]

nour

[late path]

do i keep trying iinfernum dog or do a wotg playthrough

[vagrant raft]

finish infernum then do wotg

[crystal acorn]

shes been saying "just taking in the surroundings" for the entire game

[late path]

is 254 attempts normal for dog normal

[vagrant raft]

dunno

[frank mauve]

✅

[frank mauve]

then id say beat the game and finish the dialogue there

[crystal acorn]

dont i need to progress her story to fight one of the wotg bosses

[frank mauve]

yeah but to fight those bosses ud need to beat exos and scal anyway

[vagrant raft]

true

[crystal acorn]

okay and i will

but i still cant fight that boss

bc i cant progress with solyn

[frank mauve]

no like

u can still play the game and progress later

thats what i did

[crystal acorn]

yeah but i want to fight the boss

[frank mauve]

usually i dont even bother with the quests until i finish the game

[crystal acorn]

thats why i care abt solyn in the first place

[frank mauve]

then i do the quests and summon the bosses

[crystal acorn]

yeah well the problem here is that i cant finish the quest even if i beat the game

[vagrant raft]

i mean he is the number 1 solyn hater

[frank mauve]

bro i had the same bug and it still worked

[crystal acorn]

well did you do anything to fix it

or did it work by itself

[frank mauve]

i just kept playing the game

[late path]

whats wrath of the machines

[frank mauve]

then after i beat exos and scal it worked

so i summoned mars and finished the seeds and summoned aoe

then ND

[vagrant raft]

eternity-death mode

but standalone addon for calamity

[pallid tide]

i spent 94 attempts beating infermum perfs bro im sure 254 for dog is just fine

and even if 254 was more than average it doesnt matter cause you beat it in the end

[late path]

it took me 3 attempts for hivemind apparently

[vagrant raft]

did that first try

-# was on 10 hp last hit

[neon stag]

wrath of the clankers is just exos rework

its a pretty cool fight but its pretty much a visual clutterfuck atleast for me

[scarlet shadow]

holy clanker

[barren prawn]

the incredibly crappy ram dash on solar makes true melee guardians even more fun

[smoky dock]

is that sarcasm or

because it can go either way

tmelee guards to me is hell yeah

[barren prawn]

I just can't rely on it actualyl being invuln and there's no way to track the stacks

[neon stag]

how about you just use a ram dash accessory then

surely you can fit one in your build

[barren prawn]

sure I would if the set didn't break them

[zealous slate]

it doesnt???

im using solar flare asguards valor feels fine for me

[glad wind]

1 more boss left in wrath of the gods

[zealous slate]

any1 got any advice for 2nd phase providence melee infernum especialy the crystall bit

[neon stag]

it doesnt?

asgards valor overrides the solar armor set bonus ram dash

[barren prawn]

since when has that been fixed then?

[neon stag]

uhm, for a while now

atleast for me, using the solar flare armor and asgards valor at the same time works as intended, with the asgards valor ram dash overriding the solar flare armor set bonus

[zealous slate]

now that u say it my solar is acctualy overiding my asguards valor

[smoky dock]

tmelee guards is like, euphoria

[zealous slate]

no wonder it felt weird to dodge stuff

[vernal bloom]

I'm contemplating whether I should do master masochist-death or FTW masochist-death

[frank mauve]

ftw masodeath

[zealous slate]

do the harder one since it will be easy then do stealth only rouge and u have to have only 1 peice of armour and no accsessories

[glad wind]

is this good enough for the final test in wotg

[scarlet shadow]

replace Shat.Community with Draedon's Heart

your cal bars wont be very useful in that test

[vocal sentinel]

ND destroys nanomachines bar too

[vapid pendant]

You still get 48 defense, Id use chalice over heart though

[zealous slate]

Elysian aegis or asguards vallor

for melee

[frank mauve]

elysian aegis is the upgrade so use it

[zealous slate]

Aight ty

[barren prawn]

definitely feels like the ram dash gets overridden, just died again to that

[maiden cobalt]

would calsouls work with infernum or would it break

[smoky dock]

It breaks

[maiden cobalt]

awesome

[zealous slate]

any1 know a melee wpn that can consitently dmg signus cus atm it feels rly hard to deal dmg since he is so fast

[frank mauve]

terratomere

[neon stag]

terratomere is a good homing weapon

[viscid scaffold]

I jist now realized why I had less than 70 defense with my mollusk armor during the mechs

I forgot to put the shoes back on

When I was running in hell

[fossil saffron]

“Why does everything hurt so much” yo jordans gone bruh

[viscid scaffold]

huh, this is weird, it obliterated everything on the living wood tree

and spawened on it

[dull oyster]

holy shit why does eol have so many projectiles 😭

[winter ferry]

guys is wrath of the gods mod playable in multiplayer? or was it meant to be played solo

[swift pike]

hey there so im playing with the wotg addon and i just beat yharon. problem is now whenever the fog covers my screen after like 30 seconds it crashes my pc. idk if my pc is just ass or not but im not sure what to do about this

[fast urchin]

What should i use against mutant in fargo dlc? Im using mage

[elder nebula]

it technically functions

[rare walrus]

my inf yharon tries are INCREDIBLY inconsisten

sometimes i die at 94%

sometimes i die in 8 seconds

and rn i got the boss to 40%

[frank mauve]

overlapped map makes yharon easier

[rare walrus]

makes sense

its not necessarily hard

[frank mauve]

or a good arena

[rare walrus]

its that i dont know its attakcs

moreless i got an idea now

after some tries

[frank mauve]

well with the map with u can predict the dashes in advance

[rare walrus]

ye

[frank mauve]

and watch out for the projectiles and tornados or whatever theyre called

[rare walrus]

bro venetrated locket is so good i love it

how did i not know of this accessory

[frank mauve]

rogue has lots of hidden accessories

[silk void]

Is Samurai armor from Goozma better than Auric or Demonshade for melee?

[frank mauve]

demonshade all the way

[modest hatch]

guys what weapon is good for astrageldon im doing submising vortex components only weapons stuff

[terse widget]

Ambergris might help

What mod is the vanity set from?

[viscid scaffold]

I just looked at the first fractal crafting tree

It is all pre moonlord swords

And zenith can be crafted with the first fractal

Meaning I can get pre moonlord zenith

[rare walrus]

Let me check

[viscid scaffold]

(won't mean anything against astrageldon)

But still

Pre moonlord zenith

[rare walrus]

But

[viscid scaffold]

I'm not

[rare walrus]

You need auric bars

[modest hatch]

explain

[rare walrus]

Don't you

[modest hatch]

how can you get auric bars and moonlord weapons

[frank mauve]

yeah cal changed zenith recipe

[viscid scaffold]

The final fractal weapon is a mod

And it's intended to be played in vanilla

But I'm doing it in calamitas ty

Calamity

[modest hatch]

hello WOMAN

[viscid scaffold]

And it just needs a first fractal to make the zenith

If you make it

[rare walrus]

I somehow bugged my game and could fight astrageldon post moonlord

[viscid scaffold]

You'll still need two first fractal's to make the final fractal pre yharon but still

[rare walrus]

He didn't stand a chance

[frank mauve]

[modest hatch]

[viscid scaffold]

So pre ml zenith is possible with this mod

[rare walrus]

Bc I fought him pre DoG

[modest hatch]

whats easier

[acoustic kelp]

how do i stop making mobs and worms teleporting mid bossfight in multiplayer
😭

[modest hatch]

space slime or god of slimes

[viscid scaffold]

You dont

[dense ocean]

You don't.

[viscid scaffold]

That's the fun part

[acoustic kelp]

why does dog not teleport

[viscid scaffold]

You either don't or you suck up with it

[terse widget]

Star shower for phase 1 and razorblade typhoon for phase 2

[viscid scaffold]

Phase 2 astrageldon is a bitch to hit

[modest hatch]

took me 6 minutes just to take him to 25% hp

[viscid scaffold]

Which is why

We love homing

Don't we

[modest hatch]

everything else is ass

i might just

fight moonlord

[frank mauve]

is ur loadout maybe "ass"

[viscid scaffold]

Who installs catalyst just to not fight the one boss it adds

[barren prawn]

guardian dash spawning right next to meh as to be the biggest troll

[iron sandal]

Hmm trying out the goozma stuff for the first time, is it weird i dislike the summoning process

[viscid scaffold]

I dont think so

Summoning goozma is stupid ngl

How does one figure that out without boss checklist

[iron sandal]

Yes but for me its the downtime between fights thats getting me

I wanna learn it but it takes like 5 minutes per attempt

Since im on summoner, I cant have my summons out or theyll just kill king sliem

[viscid scaffold]

Does hotog add any new structures

Or can I just turn it on after a playthrough and fight goozma

[terse widget]

No it doesn't

[viscid scaffold]

Okay yay

Goozma vs Final Fractal or a Zenith or something

[zealous slate]

is this fine for dog (im using deaths ascension)

[viscid scaffold]

Dawg sling that scarf out the window

[zealous slate]

what do i replace it with

[viscid scaffold]

Deific Amulet or something if you want to have survivability

[zealous slate]

affliction?

[viscid scaffold]

It's either affliction or deific

Personally I'd do both and take off amalg brain

Although if you do affliction it might be better to go with Tarragon armor with the tarragon wings

[frank mauve]

are u on inf

[viscid scaffold]

1 min cal shadow

[frank mauve]

just go with omega blue 😛

[viscid scaffold]

Nerf these weapons broke

[viscid scaffold]

They prolly want to take more than one hit from dog

Tanking one hit is a lot for dog in infernum on the second and third phase

[frank mauve]

u can tank 1 hit with omega blue and affliction

[viscid scaffold]

Tanking a single head and two projectiles or body hits is pretty good for people who need to learn

[viscid scaffold]

Not everyone has 500 hours against infernum dog

[frank mauve]

i mean with dodges u can still tank

[viscid scaffold]

Tanking is better to learn so they can use the DPS stuff in the future

I might have to triple the boss hp

Doubling it against crystal stone sword and terra blade isn't enough

[solar badger]

I NEED HELP

[viscid scaffold]

Well your first problem is using periditus over kaleidoscope

Kaleidoscope is better for tag damage, periditus has more range

[solar badger]

perditus literally has 3 more tag damage?

[viscid scaffold]

Kaleidoscope is percentage, not base tag

Iirc

so number wise, it does, damage wise, absolutely not

[solar badger]

ive tested both perditus is better anyway im struggling with accessories

[fading dove]

perditus is better on low damage fast hitting minions

[fossil saffron]

perditus looks cooler so i used it

[vast wing]

now what

[fading dove]

anyways get a stardust cell its debuff will be better than one plague engine

[fossil saffron]

[viscid scaffold]

Charm of myths is a big issue

[fossil saffron]

golem!

[fading dove]

also rainbow crystals over sanctified spark

[viscid scaffold]

And the Cal clone drop I never remember the name since it's pretty garbage

[vast wing]

ok violet

[fading dove]

i remember i made a decently defensive prov summoner loadout

[solar badger]

its +12% damage i have no accessories

[vagrant raft]

he had 1k hp left

[fading dove]

1 axe 1 cell

rest plague engines

everything on warding

[shy quest]

hows the eternity mode addon for calamity looking

is it like

[fading dove]

this gets a 2:30

[shy quest]

almost done

[fading dove]

which part

[fossil saffron]

fargo’s souls dlc?

[shy quest]

just in general

development

[fading dove]

making the game function has been finished

eternity ai is up to and including calclone, along with old duke and exos

[fossil saffron]

large asterisk next to function because aquatic scourge still exists

[shy quest]

man im going to be in college once the mods fully done 🫩

[fading dove]

enchs and forces have not been finished

dlc development has been paused for now

[fossil saffron]

i assume probably 2.0 comes out then souls dlc will get some focus again?

[fading dove]

exactly

[shy quest]

is anything new though

for calamity addons in general

like fables

[fossil saffron]

IER

[zealous slate]

is portal gun enabled in inf dog fight

[shy quest]

ier?

[zealous slate]

cus im running out of vertical arena

[fossil saffron]

i meant to elaborate but lsot my last 2 braincells for some reason

[fading dove]

yeah

[zealous slate]

sick

[fossil saffron]

giant modpack, thorium+calamity+bunch of other mods i forgot which ones

[fading dove]

but its main use is the fall speed

teleports are useless

[shy quest]

like any updates for catalyst, fables, etc.

[fossil saffron]

with a bunch of configs to make it actually work +new items and api stuff

[shy quest]

ik infernum’s stop updating

[fossil saffron]

absurdly funny mod

[fading dove]

calamity released an update that split its config options and killed every single addon except calval

[fossil saffron]

was that this patch i hsvent logged in to check it

[fading dove]

no

it was 2.0.7.0

[fossil saffron]

oh

[fading dove]

we are currently on 2.0.7.3

[fossil saffron]

i havent logged since pre 7.0 so

(im on Vacation)

[fading dove]

nvm 2.0.7.2

[shy quest]

what.

[fading dove]

addons already fixed their shit

including catalyst

[viscid scaffold]

Am I the only person that does this because I cannot play terraria without having my accessories organized

In my slots

I always have offensive on top, defensive in the middle, and mobility at the bottom

And for calamity with the shield rams or dashes I just put it above my wings since its basically mobility and defensive

[zealous slate]

any1 got any advice for dog grid

[viscid scaffold]

Mounta

[fading dove]

broom

[viscid scaffold]

Mountis

[zealous slate]

and yeah u are the only person who does that

[viscid scaffold]

FLYING MOUNTS

broom or fishron

[zealous slate]

broom it is

[fading dove]

no fishron

broom doesn't increase your hitbox

fishron does

[neon stag]

infernum?

[viscid scaffold]

huh

Never knew that

I always used fishron because its slower and more precise

[zealous slate]

yes and i changed the scarf for affliction

[neon stag]

did you beat the boss yet?

[solar badger]

what s this

[viscid scaffold]

If they're asking about it I doubt they did

[zealous slate]

nah im getting it to grid and dieing

[viscid scaffold]

Ursa Sargent

Or wtv to spell it

I don't really use it unless I'm using mollusk or titan heart armor

[fading dove]

ursa sergeant

obtained by fishing in the astral

[zealous slate]

Nah

[viscid scaffold]

It is pretty busted tho, I just don't ever need it that often since mollusk is basically post plantera tier armor

[neon stag]

get rid of the absorber, and the ambrosial is fine but theres probably better options for you to use

you should atleast get a warbanner of the sun if youre using the deaths ascension true melee

[fading dove]

omega blue armour
elysian wings
elysian aegis
sealocket
fire gauntlet
affliction
warbanner of the sun
ascendant insignia
https://youtu.be/3h3Q33HM05w

[viscid scaffold]

yeah a pure DPS build won't help people who are new to infernum beat dog

In fact it'll make it just that more frustrating ti

[fading dove]

pure dps
affliction
sealocket
ascendant insignia

[solar badger]

why only 1 axe

[fading dove]

debuff

[viscid scaffold]

love the debuffs

[fading dove]

elemental mix is quite strong but so are plague engines

[viscid scaffold]

Also why the hell is dog not immune to the elemental debuff

Basically THE calamity debuff and bro isn't immune

[barren prawn]

151 pulls for true melee guardians

[vast wing]

so fun fight

[neon stag]

true

[vast wing]

its based on pure skill and fun mechanics

really liked it

[stoic kindle]

i can prob kill infernum levi and anahita before golem

[fading dove]

i like the part of inf golem where it has one mildly menacing attack and its exclusive to p3

[fading dove]

yeah thats where theyre intended to be fought

[stoic kindle]

oh

boss checklist's boss and event order confuses me sometimes

[vagrant raft]

[fading dove]

pumpkin and frost moons are intended post golem in both vanilla and cal

[viscid scaffold]

Why is the fucking terra blade dealing 50% of the saucers HP in a few hits

[lusty atlas]

did they update infernum multiplayer? My friends are stuck on syncing mods when they try to join

[viscid scaffold]

No because it was never intended to be played on multiplayer

Like ever

Infernum is a solely single player mode and playing in multiplayer fucks the ai really badly

[lusty atlas]

im past moonlord with my friends

but they cant join the server anymore

since today

when weve been playing it for 2 weeks

[viscid scaffold]

Well that's a relief

[lusty atlas]

its just not letting them join anymore

[viscid scaffold]

Maybe infernum devs fixed multiplayer by just removing it completely

I doubt it, but that's a grace from god

[lusty atlas]

would be weird for them to just update that out of nowhere

removing content like that

[viscid scaffold]

I wouldn't call it removing

I would call it fixing something that was never meant to be

Playing infernum multiplayer is basically the same as modding a single player game to have several people, breaking it and causing bugs

[lusty atlas]

true but weve only encountered 2 bugs

and that was with the eater of worlds

where it dropped 2 bags for each player

and the other bug was that the full body wasnt always visible

[viscid scaffold]

That's normal

At least for inferjum

it's only an eater problem though

[solar badger]

the furthest i could get in infernum is profaned gaurdians, i genuinely think thats where my skill ends

[viscid scaffold]

but infernum ai was never intended for multiplayer and they're never going to make it multiplayer

That mod is finished

[lusty atlas]

yeah but that shouldnt be a reason why they cant join anymore no?

theyve been able to join me for 2 weeks straight

[viscid scaffold]

Probably not but hey stop complaining, you still got the world

[lusty atlas]

and today it wont let them anymore

[viscid scaffold]

It's not like they deleted your world

[lusty atlas]

yes, im not complaining about that. i am just wondering how come they cannot join anymore

[viscid scaffold]

Just send the world file to your friends and race to scal or exos

[viscid scaffold]

I don't know mann, infernum has already got poor programming on some bosses, I wouldn't be surprised if multiplayer optimization was deleted entirely

[gloomy wedge]

If I had to guess? It’s tmod, not infernum

Tmod does this funny thing where it just says no to multiplayer sometimes

[viscid scaffold]

I mean calamity is already not too intended to be with multiplayer, modding AI's for several people is really difficult anyways lol

[lusty atlas]

after multiple restarts on the server, they are finally in again

[lusty atlas]

yes but that shouldnt be the issue here

[viscid scaffold]

At least it's working now

Hope you don't encounter too many problems in the hellhole of multiplayer infernum, but I guess you can just boss cheese in multiplayer

[stoic kindle]

is deep wounder good for infernum anahita

[viscid scaffold]

I mean no, but if you're doing the 3 weapon challenge it's your only option

[stoic kindle]

i meant to put deep wounder

[fading dove]

yeah probably

[viscid scaffold]

Oh no clue never heard of it

I need to start using more weapons

I've already done all the miracle weapon lines, other mage weapons only, 40% of the summon weapons, half of all ranger weapons since theyre pretty few and boring

[frank mauve]

weaponless 🤔

[smoky dock]

weaponless is peam

[viscid scaffold]

Oh and true melee

[frank mauve]

i think ive used most weapons in the game except summons

[viscid scaffold]

That sucked but it wasn't so bad

I like how I only remember I did true melee because of prikki

Prikki gotta be some kind of deity

[smoky dock]

Prikki is legendary

[viscid scaffold]

Perchance a nameless deity

[smoky dock]

I heard his nohit run is a totally normal world. No cheats, he gets everything legit

[frank mauve]

prikki is deranged

[smoky dock]

No QoL either

[frank mauve]

prikki fights in an enclosed arena

[viscid scaffold]

Well like 85% of all qol is just banned from no hits lol

[smoky dock]

well he's a Lihzahrd, and they're more comfortable underground

[smoky dock]

???

what QoL is banned from nohits

the only thing I can really fathom is infinite station buffs permitting Happy! without nearby sunflowers and any station buff in Argus' subworld

[viscid scaffold]

I just know a lot of them are excluding stuff like prismas, magic storage, and junk

[fading dove]

iirc effigies are safe in argus land

[smoky dock]

whar

[fading dove]

like you can just use em

[smoky dock]

like, in inventory?

[fading dove]

why? i have no idea

[smoky dock]

they're not Candle-ified yet

[viscid scaffold]

Fargo's mutant, prismas, and magic storage are like the only qol I know is allowed in a no hit

[fading dove]

yeah having the buff is legal

[maiden fjord]

wingslot, instant platform fallthrough, antisocial

[fading dove]

for some reason

[smoky dock]

magic storage is illegal in very specific circumstances

[frank mauve]

the flappy bird incident

[fading dove]

i thought it was something to do with somehow reading the location of effigies in the real world and giving you the buff there

[viscid scaffold]

Is fall through just hammered platforms?

[smoky dock]

that's so incredibly funny

[smoky dock]

Not quite

Hammered platforms are legally a hoik and hoiks are like, really finicky

Using hammered platforms means having to deal with the unique quirks of hammered platforms which are not otherwise present in Instant Platform Fallthrough

Do I support that rule? Not really

But it's still a rule

[stoic kindle]

does wotg still crash the game when you unload it

[frank mauve]

tbf its also about being able to place stuff

[smoky dock]

oh yeah that too

100% forgror about that

[viscid scaffold]

So are hammered platforms allowed or not since they're technically a hoik

[smoky dock]

They're allowed

[edgy palm]

what is the fog in post ml? is it from WotG?

[stoic kindle]

does ink bomb still drop from collasal squid in infernum

[viscid scaffold]

So they're allowed just because they can fuck you over on some occasions or smth

[smoky dock]

Hoiks are """banned""" because they allow unusually fast movement which can probably cheese a fight

[smoky dock]

They're allowed because they're not a tool that lets you cross the length of the world in a few seconds

I've used hoiks in nohits before

[viscid scaffold]

Now that I think about it, inf dog is momentum based boss, if you're not moving and the hoik is pushing you would that mean he doesn't speed up

[smoky dock]

I have no clue

I think he speeds up because he's trying to reach your location

[viscid scaffold]

This question stumps quantum physicists

[smoky dock]

I'd assume he would speed up but uhhh

I'm not going to test that

[stoic kindle]

how do i get ink bomb in infernum

[smoky dock]

iirc they drop from Cuttlefish

[scarlet scarab]

Infernum Duke Fishron just crashed my game at 0.2% health

Bro could have stubbed his toe and died lmfao

[fading dove]

trolled

[scarlet scarab]

Guess I'm going again

[barren prawn]

2 true melee kills on guardians and no accessory

it's surprisingly not that bad once you've banged your head to the wall enough

[vast wing]

infernum eol is a bullet hell that i cannot deal with

[barren prawn]

it's not too bad, but you have to do some very specific things for some of the patterns

[fading dove]

i fucking hate when people use the term bullet hell improperly like please go play a shmup

[vast wing]

[barren prawn]

like an arena that's wide enough

[vast wing]

if this is not a bullet hell, you tell me then

[viscid scaffold]

Fighting empress of light in 60 fps instead of 20 is really fun ngl

[viscid scaffold]

Bro wouldn't survive a day in Touhou

A minute actually

[vast wing]

thats also stupid

[fading dove]

touhou is relatively easy by shmup standards

[viscid scaffold]

That's one of the easier ones

[vast wing]

yes, im saying that i dont like bullet hells

[viscid scaffold]

Easier attacks in Touhou at least

[viscid scaffold]

Then uh, don't play bullet hells :)

[vast wing]

if you say so

[viscid scaffold]

The entirety of infernum isn't even considered half a bullet hell to me

[fading dove]

the closest thing in inf to a bullet hell is scal and even then ehhhhhhhhhh

[viscid scaffold]

Okay well maybe scal

But like you said barely

[fading dove]

shes not too much of a bullet hell imo

[vast wing]

it isn't

golem is the best fight ive ever had

so fun

plantera, also

pure skill

[stoic kindle]

i think the only bullet hell ive played is star of providance and i think that is one of the easier bullet hell games

[vast wing]

eol, bs

[viscid scaffold]

Even then, the only mod I consider a bullet hell is Fargo's, and that's still iffy because it's basically JUST abominationn and mutant on specifically masochist

Dude it feels like eucalyptus sap isn't even rare ngl

Ive gotten this thing like 20 times

Almost every run on accident

[vital mulch]

this community is so kind and helpful ❤️‍🩹

[barren prawn]

there's certainly heavy influence from touhou and similar games in the latter part of calamity (and infernum)

[stoic kindle]

infernum golem doesn't seem that bad

how do i dodge this

do i need better wings

[barren prawn]

follow their travel direction and switch when you reach wall

[viscid scaffold]

Betsy fucking sucks more in infernum more than masochist mode

[barren prawn]

most up to date wings should have enough flight time to do the full cycle

[chilly saffron]

hey guys

[viscid scaffold]

Why is she always off screen bro

[chilly saffron]

i just finished my 5th infernum run

with rogue

what should i do next?

[stoic kindle]

which wings should i be using

[chilly saffron]

bat wings should be good enough

i used fairy wings for golem lol

[viscid scaffold]

Mothron or bat

I usually just get mothron

Easier to get than bat for me ngl

[eternal oriole]

is avatar of emptiness a newer boss?

[viscid scaffold]

Kinda

Added a bit ago

[eternal oriole]

is it the hardest

[viscid scaffold]

Replaced noxus

[viscid scaffold]

I mean imo it's harder than nd

[eternal oriole]

oh

[stoic kindle]

how many silent accessires should i have

[viscid scaffold]

But ND was always easy

[viscid scaffold]

What weapon

[chilly saffron]

it depends

are you spamming or stealthing?

[viscid scaffold]

Silent reduces stealth damage by a little

[stoic kindle]

stealth

so ill do what i did before which is 3 silent and the rest are lucky

[chilly saffron]

maybe half silent

[chilly saffron]

thats not so bad

also i heard wrath of the gods is becoming a standalone mod, is it true?

[stoic kindle]

yeah

[chilly saffron]

hell yeah

will it work outside of calamity?

cuz going from moonlord to avatar seems a bit crazy

[viscid scaffold]

Who the hell in the inf balancing team said "Yeah let's make Ravager one of the best bosses in the mod for no reason"

He should not be this fun

[barren prawn]

warbanner of the sun doesn't exist

[viscid scaffold]

Sigh

[chilly saffron]

huh

did they remove it?

[viscid scaffold]

We all love using it but hate getting it

[viscid scaffold]

No it's just annoying to get

[chilly saffron]

its not sooo bad

[barren prawn]

it doesn't have the bag so you have to farm the boss

[stoic kindle]

i don't think ive ever used warbanner

[viscid scaffold]

Play flappy bird for 3 seconds, kill guardians and repeat

[chilly saffron]

i accidently had warbanner on until calamitas in my melee run

[viscid scaffold]

It's like a 20 or 40% damage increase or smth

[barren prawn]

with gilded proboscis it's a bit more involved

[viscid scaffold]

60% damage increase for true melee

And around 10-40% for fame melee

[stoic kindle]

that seems really good

[chilly saffron]

i say it carries until post dog

[barren prawn]

it's like 1.2*1.2 for true melee when you're stabbing

[viscid scaffold]

To get the full bonus it's like 2-4 tiles away and sometimes at 18 tiles away it's worse than badge of bravery

[barren prawn]

if the game uses sane math

I doubt it's useful for regular melee unless your aim is to hit with the weapon and have the projectiles do extra

[viscid scaffold]

50 second on a 1.5x hp Astrum aureus

Oh yeah I lowered it from 3x to 1.5x since it's mainly the mod weapons that are op and not the other ones used in crafting said weapons

[maiden fjord]

infernum plantera so peak I true melee that bitch with subshocker and pauldron combo and I got one minute killtime

[chilly saffron]

sub shocker is so broken

[amber sedge]

what is the best weapon for providence ranger infernum ?

[chilly saffron]

i used that effervensence

thing

oh wait thats mage

[amber sedge]

yeah that magic xd

[chilly saffron]

its that one bow

that fires arrows from the sky and from the player

i forget what its called

[viscid scaffold]

Holy shit

[chilly saffron]

or you could use the superradiant saw thing

thats really good

[viscid scaffold]

I've been MISSING OUT.

[amber sedge]

Planetary Annihilation ?

[maiden fjord]

I gotta say it's not even close
I see touhou character shoots so many projectiles until the point it's way tighter to dodge

[viscid scaffold]

Dude fighting bosses with frame skip instead of the shitty 20 fps is FUN AS HELL.

[viscid scaffold]

Eh, only the debuff is worth

[chilly saffron]

yeah, but super radiant slaughter is better imo

[stoic kindle]

that should be enough

[chilly saffron]

doesnt calamity make it a one-use?

[amber sedge]

yeah but idk how the fuck im dealing so less damage with it

[chilly saffron]

its so hard to get it right

i just got lucky in my ranger infernum run

its such a complicated weapon

[amber sedge]

Clockwork bow is good or not ?

[viscid scaffold]

Pretty good ngl

[chilly saffron]

its really good

[viscid scaffold]

18k burst depending on your damage rolls

Usually less but still

Sometimes 20 if you're lucky

[viscid scaffold]

As in lucky not the modifier itself

[chilly saffron]

i never used it other than first phase profaned guardians, its just boring

[viscid scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-truth-nuke-walter-white-true-breaking-bad-truth-nuke-breaking-bad-true-gif-2370094217877194192

[amber sedge]

and this is good for providence :

[viscid scaffold]

Great weapon, but real boring

[chilly saffron]

solid

[barren prawn]

2min 16s to kill guardians with true melee wings+3def+3off accessories, shitty playing so no adrenaline

[viscid scaffold]

I've learned Vortex booster is trash unless you want the stats

[barren prawn]

not quite the speedrun video

[stoic kindle]

can i ram dash through this

[viscid scaffold]

If you want speed for profaned guardians and prov, go for tracers since flight time is inf

[chilly saffron]

i used vortex booster for flappy bird, it was easier to control then i swapped to other wings

[smoky dock]

any win is a good win

and adrenaline is not necessary

[barren prawn]

it's consistently around that mark at 4 kills now

I'd say it's not even that bad for true melee one you know how to play the silly fight

certainly not cryonogen 13 minute mark 😅

[viscid scaffold]

Okay lesson learned, don't face tank cultist without warding

[vast wing]

ok

[frank mauve]

cryogen tmelee is hell

but u can always abuse the mount

[near topaz]

I am NOT reading allat

[chilly saffron]

ooooo i like how you used the wotg deco item on the trees, i could never find a way to use them

[barren prawn]

I skipped the overly annoying premoonlord true melee fights with just regular melee for this run

[viscid scaffold]

Time to get first fractal now

[maiden fjord]

wtf is this? 😭

[vast wing]

[stoic kindle]

what the fuck

[viscid scaffold]

Yo why ain't ts working

There's literally NO ATTACKS

Zenith it is

[frank mauve]

bad luck

[viscid scaffold]

40k dps

Hmm

Yeah I'll just

Multiply boss hp

By like 10x

For moonlord and maybe astra for the love of the game

[stoic kindle]

ok then

[smoky dock]

don't facetank anything without warding wtf

Warding is like

The defensive feature

[stoic kindle]

thank you infernum golem

[frank mauve]

facetank using arcane

[smoky dock]

It's the #1 first thing one does when upping bulk

[smoky dock]

https://tenor.com/view/resident_evil_4-resident-evil4-re4-strangle-strangling-gif-27515159

[frank mauve]

whats happening here

[viscid scaffold]

Well I did deal 40% damage in 5 seconds so I was hoping for speed killing cultist with flying dragon

[smoky dock]

Every fight gets better if you know what you're doing

True melee is just torture if you do it wrong which sucks'

[chilly saffron]

kelvin for golem? use the stellar knife bro

[frank mauve]

omniblade is like

so cool

honestly

[maiden fjord]

gilded proboscis my goat

[stoic kindle]

4 percent of golem hp left before i died

[smoky dock]

gilded proboscis prayge

[stoic kindle]

my arena for astrumaureus sucks

i should blow up part of the astral infeection and put a arena in the hole

[barren prawn]

all you need is just a track of straight dirt

[chilly saffron]

my infernum arenas were just entire worlds, i would kill the boss in the arena world then cheat him in the normal world

that way my normal world stays clean from arenas everywhere

[stoic kindle]

i think ill blow up this area

[barren prawn]

"arena"

[stoic kindle]

what is this

[dense ocean]

Sword Shrine.

[chilly saffron]

its a stomach

its the stomach of the corruption

[fluid flax]

bean

looks more like a kidney

[stoic kindle]

this should be good

[chilly saffron]

damn that was fast

although you should rather go on a straight line

[stoic kindle]

this is very useful for blowing up areas to make arenas

[zealous slate]

any1 got any tips for dog i keep running out of vertical arena

[chilly saffron]

i just use the universe destroyer from fargos souls mod

[zealous slate]

this is the arena

[chilly saffron]

just make a whole new world, make it infernum and use fargos souls mod to destroy every tile, then just add rows of platforms across the whole world (i used TEdit for this, you dont need to)

its a bit extra

lol

[stoic kindle]

why does astrum aurus do so much damage

[chilly saffron]

but it works very well

[zealous slate]

cant do that since i need to have beat dog in the world for murasama

thanks for the advice tho

[chilly saffron]

you can just cheat it in after (no one needs to know)

[stoic kindle]

ill just kill this guy after golem

[chilly saffron]

i had trouble with astrum aureus a few days ago, this video helped so much i almost no hit him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUpc5mxdWTc

[zealous slate]

no like i have it but u cant use it in a world that dog hasnt died in

[chilly saffron]

yeah you can just cheat dog in your normal world, you already beat him legit

[chilly saffron]

literally just go up all the time

[stoic kindle]

beat golem

[vagrant raft]

first time trying calamity overhaul

nvm last time im playing this shi

[abstract oasis]

isn't that mod banned?

[maiden fjord]

unsubscribe the mod immediately please 😁

[vagrant raft]

dunno

[chilly saffron]

first mistake

[chilly saffron]

why?

[vagrant raft]

oh i will

[abstract oasis]

i think it like stole some game codes from the devs and even corrupts player and world data sometimes

[chilly saffron]

oh yeah, i completely forgot about that

[amber sedge]

what is Calamity Overhaul ?

[vagrant raft]

calamity temu edition

[abstract oasis]

also is the dialogue box from stars above?

[stoic kindle]

a calamity add on that sucks and can corrupt worlds and characters

[vagrant raft]

probably

[amber sedge]

oh

[abstract oasis]

you have the mod activated?

[vagrant raft]

nope

[stoic kindle]

seems similar

[abstract oasis]

that's what i was thinking

[amber sedge]

what cool addon calamity have btw ?

[chilly saffron]

what is this corny ass mod

[vagrant raft]

welp overhaul is on the list of not playing that just like satanist mode

[stoic kindle]

stars above

[chilly saffron]

although satanist is more fun

[vagrant raft]

i count infernum

[chilly saffron]

imma try it

[vagrant raft]

and torture

[chilly saffron]

ofc we love it

[stoic kindle]

wotg is a cool addon imo

[vagrant raft]

we love getting tortured

[viscid scaffold]

Astrageldon is still the only boss that's taken over 10 attempts

That's a feat

[chilly saffron]

in my opinion? you shouldve said in EVERYONES opinion

[vagrant raft]

theres a infernum addon for astrageldon lmao

[viscid scaffold]

Ik

Didn't use it

[amber sedge]

okay because im doing a little pack of mods soo im taking even longer on the game and im taking fun

[viscid scaffold]

Cause someone said it's broken

I just doubled his damage

[chilly saffron]

wotg the only thing ive ever cried to, rip solyn 💔

[vagrant raft]

imma try it to see for myself

[viscid scaffold]

Idk if 400 a hit is normal for astra

[stoic kindle]

i don't know why this is a thing

[viscid scaffold]

This is my 2nd time fighting him

[vagrant raft]

i had no mercy on nameless deity after solyn died

[pearl shoal]

bruh this guy cant stop stealing shit from Stars Above huh

[chilly saffron]

nameless is cool though, he let solyn into his garden

[vagrant raft]

true

[viscid scaffold]

Overhaul person?

[vagrant raft]

still didnt have mercy on him

[viscid scaffold]

Those devs

?

[pearl shoal]

the overhaul dev

[viscid scaffold]

Ah

[fading dove]

PlsRember

[chilly saffron]

any regrets?

[smoky dock]

John Overhaul

[viscid scaffold]

Yeah overhaul dev is a shitty dude

[chilly saffron]

😭

[pearl shoal]

im not that guy

[fading dove]

oh yeah there's a deeper part of the stolen code

[viscid scaffold]

Stealing assets and then fucking your PC because of negligence

[fading dove]

stars above uses an AGPL

cal overhaul uses an MIT license

[stoic kindle]

what is a AGPL

[viscid scaffold]

all you need to know is overhaul is ass

[fading dove]

gnu affero general public license

[pearl shoal]

yep, like #1052323733961977947 would be less cluttered if it wasnt for it as well as people mistaking addons for official stuff

[fading dove]

one of its requirements is that if you use code from a project that uses an AGPL you must also use an AGPL

[smoky dock]

lmoa

[stoic kindle]

forgot about this

[smoky dock]

kekkers

[chilly saffron]

based update

[pearl shoal]

so in theory, PaperLuigi could just DMCA Cal Overhaul?

[vagrant raft]

hey i think the pressure is too strong

[fading dove]

yep

[pearl shoal]

lmao

[stoic kindle]

this should be enough scoria

[pearl shoal]

get 700

[stoic kindle]

if i need more i will get more

[pearl shoal]

you'll have enough for the whole game

[vagrant raft]

ngl that would be peak to see

[chilly saffron]

life alloys bro, life alloys

[viscid scaffold]

I knew modern day people were stupid, I didn't think they were that stupid

[fading dove]

AGPL tldr

[chilly saffron]

youd be surprised

[viscid scaffold]

Why on earth would people think cal overhaul is an official addon

[vagrant raft]

WHY QUEEN BEE

[fading dove]

same way people think wotg is

[viscid scaffold]

The devs haven't even finished base cal, why would they make an addon

[chilly saffron]

cuz it got calamity in the name

[chilly saffron]

and same way people think nameless deity IS xeroc and canonical to official lore

[maiden fjord]

ngl that's 200% pure stupidity

[vagrant raft]

i think you mean ███████

[viscid scaffold]

Misconception is only because ND was thought to be xeroc years ago

[chilly saffron]

nameless based on old xeroc lore right?

[viscid scaffold]

I think so

[fluid flax]

WHAT

[viscid scaffold]

I was misinformed like 1-2 years ago and told ND was Xeroc, but that was during before aoe and junk

[vagrant raft]

yes

[chilly saffron]

ND is creator of universe, xeroc is a monk that ate zeratrous' auric soul. how do people confuse that

[viscid scaffold]

I wonder if we will ever time travel in calamity to fight or talk to pre ascension xeroc

[chilly saffron]

mmmmm

[vagrant raft]

[chilly saffron]

wouldnt that mean we would just be able to change the timeline for the future

[viscid scaffold]

No clue

But timelines are weird

[chilly saffron]

real

[viscid scaffold]

Usually time traveling and changing the past only creates a different timeline (in most theories)

[chilly saffron]

we need to revive einstein to test that

[viscid scaffold]

Changing our timelines past THEORETICALLY shouldn't affect the present or future

[chilly saffron]

we're getting so off topic lol

[viscid scaffold]

I mean we're still on topic kinda

I talked about time traveling to pre ascension xeroc

[chilly saffron]

then we went to theories

[viscid scaffold]

Okay but I feel like it's possible to talk to past xeroc

Or fight him

Because I know damn well draedon would LOVE to do time travel

[fading dove]

the lack of a time travel device means that one will never be invented

[vagrant raft]

what if xeroc was a blue slime in secret

[viscid scaffold]

theoretically

[fading dove]

slime god upscale

[chilly saffron]

wait a second

[chilly saffron]

exactly

[vagrant raft]

[chilly saffron]

adorable

i want a cat so bad

id kill yharim for a cat

[vagrant raft]

same

[viscid scaffold]

Why does using the fucking music box make me lag

But not the nova monolith

[chilly saffron]

lmao

[vagrant raft]

magic

[tropic jetty]

game crashed at nameless diety, sad times

[chilly saffron]

do you have boss checklist enabled?

boss checklist mod is a common problem for crashes

[fading dove]

on kill or just during the fight?

[tropic jetty]

mid fight

[fading dove]

mmmmm

modlist?

[tropic jetty]

the unmatched power of turning the sun into a black hole

[tropic jetty]

G.A.M.

[tropic jetty]

nah, calamity is a mod where i know all the bosses by memory, no checklist needed

[chilly saffron]

ok einstein i have 2k+ hours on calamity and i still need checklist

im just dumb though

[vagrant raft]

tbh i just forget some bosses exists

[tropic jetty]

i was thinking of enabling boss checklist midway though

since argus erased my progress on modded bosses

[vagrant raft]

ah

[chilly saffron]

boss checklist is such a problem i have a notebook with every bosses names that i just check off

[tropic jetty]

i only enable it with thoruim/fargos since i always and i mean always forget a boss from those mods

specifically cursed coffin and the blood bat boss

[chilly saffron]

aint no one fight cursed coffin though

[fading dove]

i love coffin i could never forget it

[tropic jetty]

looking through what i have enabled its probably just because wrath of the gods and infernum dont run very well on my pc

coffin is a fun fight, i just never found the drops to be memorable

[frank mauve]

whatt

cursed coffin fight is so cool

[chilly saffron]

"number one solyn hater" youre on my bad side buddy

[tropic jetty]

what could solyn possibly do to be hated

[frank mauve]

u know exactly why yharim

[zealous slate]

What are the best melee accsessories for dog im getting bitched

[frank mauve]

bob

warbanner to an extent

[chilly saffron]

class?

[zealous slate]

melee

[chilly saffron]

oh

im so dumb hahaha

i didnt see that

warbanner carries

[maiden fjord]

cursed coffin is peam

[frank mauve]

✅

[zealous slate]

so cursed coffin and war banner

[chilly saffron]

the fight is cool but like what do you get out of it

[zealous slate]

??

wait cursed coffin isnt even an accsessorie?

[frank mauve]

fun

[frank mauve]

bob and warbanner

[chilly saffron]

its a boss from souls 😭

[frank mauve]

and gauntlet

[chilly saffron]

why bundle of balloons..?

[frank mauve]

badge of bravery

[spare holly]

ughh best mage wep for inf old duke:?

[barren prawn]

7 truemelee guardian kills, no accessory. Keep your secrets then

[chilly saffron]

ghostly visage

if i remember

correctly

i no hit him with it its kinda good

[frank mauve]

yeah ghastly visage the goat

[zealous slate]

how do u get war banner

[frank mauve]

from guardians

[zealous slate]

uve got to be kidding me

i hate guardians

nvm

im like overgeared asf

[chilly saffron]

buddy... i hate to break it to you

[chilly saffron]

who doesnt

[frank mauve]

nah theyre good imo

[zealous slate]

arena the sive of a walnut

if the arena was bigger then it would be good

[chilly saffron]

literally so real

theyd be so fun if we werent in a damn cave

[frank mauve]

the arena is average shaped

[fading dove]

its not small its above average

[zealous slate]

btw should i be using featherfall potions

[frank mauve]

✅

[chilly saffron]

and yet it has a horrible personality

[frank mauve]

i cant live without featherfall

[chilly saffron]

yardis strats?

[vast wing]

shitty fight

[frank mauve]

how is it yardis strat

[zealous slate]

pal i use w jump

[chilly saffron]

ive only seen him use it tbh

[chilly saffron]

skip moon and its awesome

[frank mauve]

its so useful in defiled runs

[zealous slate]

Fr eol fight was fun apart from Disclamer apears for trigger warning MOON PHASE PEEE EWWWWW

[vast wing]

its beautiful and in some way fun, but is stupid

[spare holly]

is od really just gonna be dashslop again

[fading dove]

i like moon because i had to figure out an interesting way to actually dodge it with my specific setup

[frank mauve]

✅

[fading dove]

again
before yharon
before dog

[vast wing]

and i did it post golem, dont knot if thats good or

[frank mauve]

i mean its kinda intended...

[fading dove]

yeah empress is intended post golem

[chilly saffron]

thats normal

[zealous slate]

is deaths ascension good for dog

[frank mauve]

yeah

[vast wing]

okok

[chilly saffron]

melee, yea

[zealous slate]

duke fishron pre golem is meta for flairon

[zealous slate]

im using mage tho :T

[chilly saffron]

real

[frank mauve]

why not do cultist early

u get lunar weapons

[chilly saffron]

...then why ask deaths asscension

[zealous slate]

cus i lowkey cba doing abyss shenanigans

[frank mauve]

well it shoots projectiles so just use it anyway

[zealous slate]

im not acctualy lol

mage is weird

[frank mauve]

is this dude fr

[chilly saffron]

lol

[frank mauve]

are u melee or mage

[zealous slate]

rouge

[chilly saffron]

w

[zealous slate]

nah im summoner

[frank mauve]

oh use nasty cholla then

[viscid scaffold]

top 10 modded weapons ngl

[zealous slate]

all of the above atp

[zealous slate]

melee wpn btw

[chilly saffron]

rouge infernum dog took 4 attempts for me, rogue is my favourite class by far

[zealous slate]

(im not on rouge)

[frank mauve]

🔥

[viscid scaffold]

yep

[vast wing]

thats melee to me

[spare holly]

previous lifes ptsd

[chilly saffron]

when is it not melee 💔

[frank mauve]

why do some ppl say rouge

[zealous slate]

manaless mage weapon*

[chilly saffron]

its actaully rogue, just look at it

[zealous slate]

shhh

[frank mauve]

rogue or rouge

[zealous slate]

the spelling i use

[chilly saffron]

rogue is correct

[frank mauve]

i call it red

[chilly saffron]

rouge is pronounced "rooj"

[viscid scaffold]

what about this (killed cultist from spawn)

[frank mauve]

this has to be balanced somehow

[zealous slate]

deadass what the acctual fuck am i looking at

[chilly saffron]

what mod is this from, i havent played it in so long

[spare holly]

memetic kill agent ahh

[viscid scaffold]

final fractal mod

[frank mauve]

isnt the weapon name the mod name

[fading dove]

entropy

[chilly saffron]

noxus?