calamity-addon-talk

[ebon solar]

does overhaul definitely corrupt the world

[dense ocean]

It's not guaranteed but it's a non-negligible and easily avoided risk.

[serene wraith]

Wanted to play WoTG as a summo, should i use unofficial calamity whips? i've seen ppl saying that its hella unbalanced post-ml

[round slate]

whats his new lore for draedon

[elder nebula]

do you have catalyst already

[elder nebula]

he was built on terraria

not from space

[serene wraith]

Never had it ngl so no

[elder nebula]

then use whip mod if you want

none of them are necessary but it doesn't hurt

(none of the post ml whips are better than kaleidoscope btw)

[serene wraith]

Oh alr, imma go with kaleido only then

[dense ocean]

He's never been to space.

Someone should make a big document with the lore it'd be so convenient.

[round slate]

how is that even possible

we contact him using a literal computer to come down through a beam

[dense ocean]

Yeah.
I'm contacting you through a computer.
That does not mean I've been to space.

[wraith blade]

Bruh you are fucking goated

I didn’t know that melee is that good lmao goddamn the invincibility frames

[round slate]

did he upload his conciousness to a computer

[dense ocean]

The thing about Draedon is that that is where his consciousness is.

He is an AI.

That drone?
Draedon.
Kill it?
There's still more Draedon.

[round slate]

who built it

is it yharim

[dense ocean]

No.

Draedon is EXTREMELY older than Yharim.

He's older than Permafrost.

[round slate]

💀

[dense ocean]

Draedon's creation is intentionally left a mystery.

[round slate]

oh welp

btw is fargo's dlc compatible w wotg

[dense ocean]

We only know the aftermath: He woke up in a lab in a taiga with a dead body.

[dense ocean]

I don't know, I heard it'd work but don't expect the WotG bosses to put up a fight.

[round slate]

oh wow thats cool

[round slate]

alright then..

[elder nebula]

draedon is over 500 years older than yharim

[round slate]

i think wotg + wotm + catalyst is enough

[dense ocean]

...why WotM?
You're playing Fargo's Soul.

There's no point.

[round slate]

where did u even find that information

[elder nebula]

the lore

[dense ocean]

Draedon states his birthday.

[elder nebula]

draedon was built ~650 years ago
yharim is ~130

when the game starts

[dense ocean]

Older, even.

(In Draedon's case.)

[elder nebula]

i heard there's a cool new document you can read to learn about the lore

[dense ocean]

Oh man, really?

[round slate]

are those the schematic

[elder nebula]

no it's a google doc

[dense ocean]

No, like, imagine someone wrote everything down on like, a Google doc.

It'd be so convenient and informative.

[elder nebula]

but someone was actually 10 people

[frank mauve]

we can only so imagine

[dense ocean]

Like Moon Knight?

[round slate]

link?

[elder nebula]

first pin #lore-discussion

[round slate]

oh wow

can u guys recomend me what mods should i play after this

I downloaded ALOT of them

[elder nebula]

mod of redemption

[round slate]

stars above, starlight river, thorium, soul of eternity, and many more

[round slate]

never heard of it but ill download and play it after beating rnager infernum

[elder nebula]

ranger infernum you say

remember to use glassmaker

it's so peak

[round slate]

what is that

[frank mauve]

bereft vassal weapon drop

[elder nebula]

goated flamethrower

[round slate]

hm sir nautilus i see

[frank mauve]

its yharoning time

[dire zephyr]

When I see Solin's tent during the blood moon, my game closes. I just can't figure out how to fix it.

I turned off high fps support. It seems like it's just about the Wrath of the Gods

[round slate]

ok i gtg i wanna play dead cells

[dire zephyr]

Does anyone know about this? help

[round slate]

bye

[round slate]

have u try relaunching ur game

[dire zephyr]

I reinstalled the game and mods, updated the drivers

[rocky pilot]

should I use purity or go a crit build? as a melee on infernum on exo mechs

[atomic magnet]

This any good?

[elder nebula]

not really

[round slate]

why dont u get asgard's valor

u have ankh shield already

[atomic magnet]

Isn't that post plant?

I am post mech 1

[elder nebula]

it's post wof

asgard's valor is post plant

i just read the message

[atomic magnet]

I am so confused

[elder nebula]

disregard me

[round slate]

wait really

[elder nebula]

yes
it requires ectoplasm

and ashes of calamity

[atomic magnet]

Man deep diver was super helpful against AS, with that increased water mobility.

[round slate]

oh yeah i forgot abt core of cal

[round slate]

oh no wonder u used that instead of ornate shield

[round slate]

i only remember it requirering ankh and ornate shield to craft it

[elder nebula]

well not anymore clearly

[round slate]

sorry for the miss information

[frank mauve]

wheres ms infernum

[atomic magnet]

I can't get the ornate shield because it needs tier 3 hardmode ores. I think.

which makes it post mech 2

[round slate]

oh ur pre mech 2?

[round slate]

no wonder

[atomic magnet]

Infernum destroyer is a push over if I recall, so this shouldn't be difficult.

[frank mauve]

only the bombs are somewhat annoying

[terse widget]

Idk, we've played in multiplayer and everything was going fine for us (until we got to the guardians )

[opaque breach]

whats the best melee weapon for pre boss

[frank mauve]

prob volcano

[terse widget]

I know I'm late but
You can use soul of cryogen as wings

[nimble wing]

infernum AS disables water physics

[atomic magnet]

Ah I see

Dash was still helpful against the spikes

and dashes

[steel rain]

Does anyone know how hard the eternity revengence mode in calamity is? just installed the calamity fargos souls dlc and just wanted to reference how hard it was vs regular calamity revengence

[elder nebula]

slightly harder than infernum

[neon geyser]

ya thats why beating cryo early is pretty vital

[stone orchid]

what is this

[wicked creek]

An infernum rogue weapon

[frank mauve]

it can do funny stuff to endgame bosses

[fading dove]

highest burst damage in the game

who's got the video of it ignoring the concept of health on scal

[terse widget]

Okay from what I've seen the main problem is going to be armor
After crystal assassin you've got hallowed (which is great don't get me wrong ), then hydrothermic (from ravager), then no new armor until bloodflare (polterghast ), and then cosmilite till the end

[fading dove]

dont you get luminite armours

luminite -> luminite bars -> armour and shit
deus -> fragments -> ^

[stone pewter]

huuhh?

isnt hydrothermic after golem?

[fading dove]

fleshy and necromantic geodes drop scoria

[stone pewter]

yea but u can mine scoria with the pick golem drops cant you?

[fading dove]

yeah

its easier to just beat the shit out of ravager though

[sleek bramble]

did the twins get a rework or some

[stone pewter]

not on infernum tho

[fading dove]

you can kill two ravagers in the time it takes to kill one golem

[fading dove]

need a bit more information

[sleek bramble]

i do NOT remember the last phase

[fading dove]

alright what difficulty

[stone pewter]

hell naw infernum ravager was beatin my ahh until i made a flat arena

[sleek bramble]

inf

[fading dove]

inf bosses havent been touched beyond bug fixes for a little under three years iirc

[stone pewter]

lowkey get wrath of the machines mod twin

[sleek bramble]

no

[ebon solar]

they did

[stone pewter]

why its fun

[fading dove]

eternity exos have several years more experience than inf exos

[ebon solar]

game chopped

too many dlcs

[fading dove]

same person made both of em just several years apart

[stone pewter]

yea and skeletron becomes a mini exo mechs fight it was hard and fun when i did em

[fading dove]

?

[stone pewter]

does it not?

[fading dove]

i have no idea what youre talking about

[stone pewter]

im pretty sure skeletron fight did not look like that

[fading dove]

do you mean master rev+ prime summoning other mechs?
inf skeletron looking menacing at first but is actually trivial with basic knowledge on how to dodge?

[sleek bramble]

skeletron prime was way more fucking easier than twins

[fading dove]

yeah inf prime is easy

[stone pewter]

OOOHHH wait no the overhaul mod changed it i think

[fading dove]

walterheisenbergwhite

[stone pewter]

well it still was fun

[fading dove]

willingly downloaded malware award

[stone pewter]

malware?

[fading dove]

it intentionally corrupts files

[stone pewter]

never happend to me tho?

[fading dove]

improperly unloads items when disabled, this has been brought up to the devs and they did not fix it

leading to guaranteed character and world corruption

[dense ocean]

No way.

[stone pewter]

well i do not plan to disable it

so i got nothing to worry about

[fading dove]

there's also the stolen code

[dense ocean]

That's how they get you. The mod is so bad you want to disable it.

[stone pewter]

i mean i dont support stealin code but its still a fun mod

[fading dove]

and the lack of balance while claiming to be a good mod

also removing all of tmelee's good options

[stone pewter]

every fight felt balanced for me idk what u mean

[fading dove]

tmelee has lion heart for exos and scal

[fading dove]

please refer to the above attachment

[stone pewter]

did get that far yet im on Astrageldon rn

[fading dove]

these are the killtimes for a preboss weapon

notice how it gets broken times for over half the game

this is because they do not know how to balance

[stone pewter]

well i am playing on infernum master mode

[fading dove]

ah

so that makes it even better

horrid

[stone pewter]

nah u just a hater

i like my terraria calamity extra modded

[fading dove]

thisis from a cal dev

[inland path]

Guys why does infernum destroyer randomly despawn

[stone pewter]

i never ran into any bugs and i dont support the stealin stuff but i cant just pass on a extra calamity addon

[maiden fjord]

what preboss weapon you're talking about btw? 🤔

[fading dove]

murasama

[fading dove]

an all addons run has been attempted and it's impossible

[stone pewter]

good thing i decided not to use it until dog

[fading dove]

the game is guaranteed to crash and the world corrupt on wof kill

[stone pewter]

im running all the popular ones and so far nothing has happend

[maiden fjord]

oh that stolen murasama
smh insert speed closing eyes

[stone pewter]

maybe they fixed some of the stuff?

[inland path]

wtf is wrong with the destroyer

he keeps despawning

[maiden fjord]

bro just unsubscribe cal overhaul in your steam account it's not that hard

[inland path]

are there known mod incompatibilities?

[stone pewter]

i dont wanna tho it has given me no reason to do so so far

[maiden fjord]

oh my goodness

this man was fallen victim to it

[stone pewter]

can a man just not enjoy his calamity how he wants to enjoy it?

[fading dove]

murasama is already a strong weapon in basecal, being made even stronger by higher aggression in inf, and is a straight upgrade thanks to cal overhaul

there is no conceivable way to claim that it is balanced

[maiden fjord]

I want some banger addon mod not something that deals infinite damage in pre boss 😭

[stone pewter]

i might just never use it anyway since i never really liked murasama in the first place

[maiden fjord]

also there is no reason for murasama to have yamato's judgement cut. ts is out of place whatsoever

[fading dove]

neither sam nor raiden do the yamato's judgement cut there's zero fucking excuse to have it

[maiden fjord]

ture

[fading dove]

they stole Bury The Light (The Stars Above) just to steal it

[stone pewter]

atleast the skeletron fight was cool

[fading dove]

oh yeah another thing is that cal overhaul can very easily be taken down

it doesn't follow the stars above's license

[stone pewter]

didnt the post say it cant cuz of backlash from community

[halcyon imp]

any tips on the infernum aquatic scourge phase 3 typhoon?

litterally only thing holding me back from beating it pre boss but it moves so fast and covers so much that with pre boss mobility i just kinda die when i see it

[maiden fjord]

go above or below the typhoon but you gotta do it fast

[halcyon imp]

thats the hard part 😭

ig since moves are in a set pattern

i could bait it to spawn high

then go down

[fading dove]

it neither discloses the source nor uses an AGPL

[maiden fjord]

aquatic scourge pre boss? dawg 😭

[stone pewter]

i just wish i could use community remix mod too ngl but it changes too much

[halcyon imp]

hey it works

i got dungeon weapons pre skele so my damage is okay

mobility ain't too bad it's an infinite flight boss

funniest part is it doesn't even hit too hard

ancient shadow is like 1 off in defense from spider i take like 100 hp

[maiden fjord]

I mean hey, I beat skeletron pre boss with nasty cholla

[sleek bramble]

NO

NO

NO

FUCK

RETINAZER WAS AT 0 WHY DIDNT HE DIE

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

THIS IS WORSE THAN YHARON

[halcyon imp]

desperation phase

[dusk niche]

Oh did he get a shield

[sleek bramble]

it was the 3rd phase

[dusk niche]

The third phase

The desperation one

?

[sleek bramble]

yes

i killed him

[dusk niche]

Damn

[sleek bramble]

and died at the same time

[dusk niche]

Did you atleast get the drops

[fading dove]

5.a) The work must carry prominent notices stating that you modified
it, and giving a relevant date.

5.b) The work must carry prominent notices stating that it is
released under this License

cal overhaul uses an MIT license

[sleek bramble]

im fucking done with the twins

almost killed that piece of shit but it became morning

[elder nebula]

gear issue

[sleek bramble]

how is time a gear issue

is this ragebait

[elder nebula]

because your dps is too low??

[fading dove]

better gear means you kill faster

[sleek bramble]

no it isnt???

[fading dove]

clearly it was

[elder nebula]

when did you start the fight

[sleek bramble]

like 2 am

[fading dove]

if it wasnt then you wouldve killed it

?????????

[elder nebula]

deserved

[fading dove]

oh thats two and a half minutes

yeah thats a gear issue

[maiden fjord]

cap
I use all warding and I dominate the battlefield

[maiden fjord]

lmao
why 2 am when you can fight them in 7:30 pm?

[sleek bramble]

im ranged

[elder nebula]

buzzkill

[sleek bramble]

ass weapon

[elder nebula]

factually incorrect

[fading dove]

idk boss seems pretty good

[inland path]

wait where can I find a killtimes list like that

[fading dove]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10bgBHu7apfftITBOQVJrtYCiakZVGC4reJcvfJqMBEM/edit?gid=1274553935#gid=1274553935

its based on expert rev

[inland path]

thank you

[fading dove]

and basecal

and specific loadouts

[inland path]

does infernum change weapons?

[fading dove]

sand shark weapons get tier shifted

[inland path]

otherwise I don't see why it would be a good point of reference

[fading dove]

post plant -> post cultist

[inland path]

hm okay

[fading dove]

also bosses tend to be more aggressive

leading to some weapons (mainly tmelee) doing significantly better

[inland path]

yeah but I'm playing summoner

[fading dove]

better uptime on whips usually

[inland path]

cool

[summer pendant]

any tips on killing moon lord?

im kinda stuck

[fading dove]

what difficulty

[summer pendant]

reavengeance

[fading dove]

run away

[summer pendant]

im new

[elder nebula]

just run in a direction

[fading dove]

keep going in one direction with something like cute fishron during rain

[summer pendant]

cute fishron?

[fading dove]

the vanilla mount

[summer pendant]

i dont understand

[fading dove]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Shrimpy_Truffle

[summer pendant]

why during rain tho?

[fading dove]

gives it the same effect as being submerged in water

[elder nebula]

makes it faster

[fading dove]

but without you having to flood your world

[elder nebula]

you can summon rain with the torrential tear item

idk how you get it in infernum

[summer pendant]

ill try it and see how it goes

[terse widget]

Oh right

[terse widget]

By the way, what happened to the yoyo bag mod?

[elder nebula]

i killed it
because yoyos are FUCKING STUPID 💥 💥 💥 💥 💥

[terse widget]

No
(Jokes aside, there might not be right ways to play Terraria, but this mod is definitely the wrong one)

[plucky dune]

is ranger like THE worst class in infernum?

[viscid scaffold]

in calamity honestly

its extremely neglected

like 4 class exclusive accessories

deadshot brooch
daawnlight
quiver of nihility
elemental quiver

[waxen tide]

not at all

[viscid scaffold]

also like she just falls out of the sky and gets back up?

even the deviantt needed help

[viscid scaffold]

a lot of its weapons are also mediocre

i know this is the case for all miracle matter weapons having usually 1 really good weapon and 1 mediocre or bad one

but it has 1 good miracle matter weapon and 1 eh and 1 terrible one

also a lot of the weapons arent the best

also i can understand why terraria pros no longer use shield of cthulhu often unless the game strictly requires a dash

i only use it for momentum boosts now

[fading dove]

mage:

[viscid scaffold]

at least the few mage accessories are all really good or great

[fading dove]

1 sucks
2 are stat sticks
only one actually interesting accessory

also ranger has the dragonfolly thing

mana polarizer is not a good accessory

[clear quail]

mage have like

[fading dove]

at least we get hoad

[viscid scaffold]

daawlight is situatonal and rarely used anyways, quiver of nihility is never used, and deadshot brooch is the only thing worth using till post ml

[clear quail]

what do mage have though

i dont remember

[fading dove]

recon scope is better than deadshot

[clear quail]

except sigil, ethereal talisman and chaos stone

and polarizer too

[viscid scaffold]

recon makes me feel dizzy

[fading dove]

mana polarizer (which sucks)

[viscid scaffold]

all scopes

[clear quail]

that thing stinks

[viscid scaffold]

are garbage

because i cant use them

[scarlet shadow]

ima arrive 3 hours late and say that they're compatible but stats aside they're the same as before

[fading dove]

then dont press m2??????

[scarlet shadow]

even easier than before because of all the endgame stuff combined

[viscid scaffold]

almost half of all post ml ranger weapons have secondary attacks btw

[fading dove]

nameless drops a rock, mars has calamitous presence, aoe and nameless have mutant presence

[waxen tide]

you can toggle visiblity on recon scope yknow

[fading dove]

also all three of them have 1.9x hp

[scarlet shadow]

wuh? better velocity with same dmg and slightly less crit

[fading dove]

recon scope is the best ranger accessory until elemental quiver

its damage is absurd

[scarlet shadow]

since when does recon scope deal damage

do you detatch it from the rifle and throw at lunatic cultists

[fading dove]

+10% damage and crit

[elder nebula]

deadshot brooch is the best ranger accessory until the end of the game

[fading dove]

also deadshot's increased projectile speed is just +1 update

when cal already buffs a bunch of projectiles to have like bare minimum 4 updates

[scarlet shadow]

demonshade armor is the best armor until the end of the game

[waxen tide]

[elder nebula]

stealth rogue

[clear quail]

stealth rogue

[vital mulch]

copper shortsword is the strongest weapon until the first time you open a chest

[scarlet shadow]

WoTG aside its still better

[elder nebula]

wood broadsword

[fading dove]

*starter bag

[vital mulch]

starter bag is a chest!

[scarlet shadow]

*copper axe

[elder nebula]

nop it's a grab bag

try again

[vital mulch]

copper pickaxe

[elder nebula]

copper hoe

[fading dove]

copper watering can

[vital mulch]

never waste your copper on a hoe

[scarlet shadow]

wrong game

[vital mulch]

wait

[scarlet shadow]

y'all so lucky these tools started existing a few snapshots ago

[vital mulch]

im doing a playthrough without calamity right now and the mining speed made me go insane I wont lie

[terse widget]

Honestly I just started my solo playthrough and didn't even bother with it because I didn't have enough slots

[sleek bramble]

infernum plantera is HAND DOWN the worst infernum boss

[fading dove]

wait until you get to yharon

[scarlet shadow]

Storm Weaver.

[fading dove]

yharon is decent but definitely shows its age

[vital mulch]

wait until you get to insert boss here

[scarlet shadow]

btw this good for Perfs and BoC?

[terse widget]

Just wait until profaned guardians golem

[sleek bramble]

i completed infernum already so ik

[fast nacelle]

Yuh

[fading dove]

guardians are the best inf boss

[sleek bramble]

valid

[vital mulch]

golem hate in my addon talk? heresy

[scarlet shadow]

best profaned boss wdym facetankable with reaver helm armor and butcher's chainsaw

[terse widget]

My brother disagrees

[fading dove]

thats because he is bad at the game

[scarlet shadow]

Sacrifice him with a kris dagger

[terse widget]

He had to use portal gun just to get to them

[vital mulch]

is flappy bird good game design

[scarlet shadow]

Portal gun users in modded Terraria?

holy shit

[vital mulch]

it skips phase 1

[scarlet shadow]

nevermind give him a kiss on the cheek

[fading dove]

i like portal gun for its fall speed increase

[terse widget]

He beat CV first try btw

[frank mauve]

portal when infinite fall speed

[fading dove]

okay and ceaseless is free?????

[frank mauve]

ceaseless when u stand in one spot the whole fight

[scarlet shadow]

[clear quail]

ceaseless inf right

yeah it's pretty much free

[frank mauve]

u can beat him without moving

[scarlet shadow]

gimme that spot wtf

[fast nacelle]

I like king slime

[frank mauve]

bottom right usually works for me

[fast nacelle]

But fr my favorite infernum boss in my current playthrough is like

[vital mulch]

I like all the bosses except for the bosses I dont like

[frank mauve]

this make cents

[fast nacelle]

Planterra

I think

[fast nacelle]

Kinda weird opinion

But ok

[frank mauve]

u might be the only plant enjoyer

[fast nacelle]

I’ve only gone up to polter this far

[clear quail]

signus is my worst infernum boss (not counting DoG because despite hate him with every fiber of my being, i understand why)

[fast nacelle]

And the good bosses are horrid with sentries

[clear quail]

i love it when

[frank mauve]

sentries how fun

[fast nacelle]

Signus and polter are the worst designed by far

[frank mauve]

signus when recall potion

[fast nacelle]

Their attacks just doesn’t work

Together

[clear quail]

when the boss throw out a 80% GPU shader background at me

[scarlet shadow]

nah fuck shitgnus

[frank mauve]

signus isnt that bad tho

[fast nacelle]

Ah yes bombs that shoots daggers at you like 5 seconds after the attack ends and the slashes

[frank mauve]

just go up and down and watch out for the clone

and the slash

[clear quail]

he's not that bad i just hate him because of the background

[fast nacelle]

True!

[frank mauve]

just recall bruh

[fast nacelle]

Some see it as cheating or cheese

[frank mauve]

he doesnt despawn so fight him at the surface

[scarlet shadow]

how about i give you a concussion with a slab of cheese

[clear quail]

for whatever reason nothing in WoTG or infernum use that much GPU compared to signut background

[terse widget]

Actually I'm pretty sure he beat all kos bosses first try

[frank mauve]

slab of cream cheese

[clear quail]

i uh

lazy

[frank mauve]

wdym lazy

its ONE input

[clear quail]

never have one on me

[frank mauve]

then what do u use to tp back home?

[clear quail]

shellphone

[scarlet shadow]

shellphone ocean mode

[frank mauve]

shellphone takes a billion year

[clear quail]

it was 5 input

i cheat that shit in

[scarlet shadow]

i craft that shit in

[frank mauve]

i meant the recall time

[scarlet shadow]

with my bare hands

[abstract oasis]

Wrath of the Machines was absolute cinema

[frank mauve]

[terse widget]

Ah yes let me just use my handy AN-124 Ruslan to drop off my state of art mechanisms

[abstract oasis]

Though half my NPCs got wiped out

[terse widget]

Absolute Fabrications

[abstract oasis]

LMAO

[terse widget]

[abstract oasis]

Draedon is the biggest aura farmer

[sleek bramble]

DUDE

PLANTERA IS SO UNBALANCED

[frank mauve]

what difficulty

[smoky cloak]

now why the fuck does INFERNUM WOF FUCKING PULL ME BACK THE INSTANT IM 1 BLOCK AWAY FROM HIS MOUTH LIKE DUDE LET ME MOVE

[frank mauve]

thats wof

not inf exclusive

[abstract oasis]

Just take it slow and time your ram dashes

[abstract oasis]

It's just getting started

[fickle patrol]

How would you dodge the inf destroyer bomb attack in phase 2

It feels randomized

[abstract oasis]

Are you playing melee?

[fickle patrol]

Summoner

[frank mauve]

start high and fall down slowly to dodge

since ull be falling down the bombs will look slower

[abstract oasis]

Well melee is arguably the best class in Infernum

[smoky cloak]

no he pulls u back any time ur a bit higher and i get like 400 dmg instantly thanks to him

[fickle patrol]

So i need a really tall arena

[smoky cloak]

and i cant evne dodge it and it dosent slow unlike moon lord

[fickle patrol]

I never play summoner so i wanted to try it out

[abstract oasis]

But anyways you can kill destroyer in 5 seconds with submarine shocker

[abstract oasis]

Summoner is very fun too keep it

[frank mauve]

not really u can always use featherfall (goated)

[fickle patrol]

Yeah its the right amount of dps it doesnt kill it in like a second

[fickle patrol]

Ive never tried it

Ill try it now

[abstract oasis]

Maybe gravity normalizer potion

[frank mauve]

sometimes i dont even bother making arenas js cuz i got featherfall

hold up and thats basically infinite flight

[stiff coral]

Hm

Astral or Hydrothermic, what to uses against Astralgeldon

[frank mauve]

hallowed armor

[sleek bramble]

what do i use for plantera

im ranged

[grim swallow]

Which one has more defense

Or debuff damagr

[fickle patrol]

Oh god featherfall throws me off

[frank mauve]

yeah u have to get used to it

[stiff coral]

I'm playing mage

If that helps

[frank mauve]

theres no hallowed mage armor?

i remember there was one what the flip

[stiff coral]

The drawback to Astral is that it sacrifices magic damage and the set bonus

[stiff coral]

There is but

[frank mauve]

so use it against astralgeldon

[stiff coral]

I don't. Care for Hallowed armor

[frank mauve]

u dont need that much damage

[grim swallow]

Damage isnt the most important thing for geldon

[frank mauve]

yeah explain to them

u could legit go for reaver lmao

[fickle patrol]

Also is +1 summon better than magi

I cant decide

[stiff coral]

Part of the set bonus is also healing

[grim swallow]

Geldon has reactive damage reduction, meaning unless you stack 500 debuffs you cant kill him in under 3:30

[stiff coral]

oh really?

[grim swallow]

Yeah

[stiff coral]

So damage buffs don't help much do they

[grim swallow]

Yeah

I sonehow did get 3:27 once

[sleek bramble]

what do i use for plantera

[stiff coral]

Class?

[sleek bramble]

ranger

[stiff coral]

Range

Uhhh, forgot what I used actually

[chrome moth]

always

[stiff coral]

What weapons are there at that stage of the game?

[frank mauve]

use hellborn or havoc breath

or animosity

[sleek bramble]

hellborn is so bad

[elder nebula]

it's the second most overpowered item in the mod

[sleek bramble]

and my father is bill gates

[stiff coral]

Alright so what's a good weapon for Geldon

[elder nebula]

@silk cedar get the killtimes

[stiff coral]

Both magic and summons

[stiff coral]

Also elaborate?

[rustic gulch]

swarmer for mage, cell bundle for summon ig

[elder nebula]

melee attack

[silk cedar]

wha

[stiff coral]

Ahhh

[wicked creek]

Based on kill times with the most optimized setups, hellborn is the weapon which gets the second highest number SS ranks for boss kill times

[elder nebula]

hellborn

[abstract oasis]

How do I keep Ares alive last?

[sleek bramble]

hellborn was only good before the nerf

[rustic gulch]

are you doing infernum summoner

[silk cedar]

#calamity-mod-talk message this?

[elder nebula]

no it's still good

[sleek bramble]

no it's not

[elder nebula]

it objectively is

[abstract oasis]

I'm doing Infernum melee with ranger as secondary class but the Exos fight is not Infernum it's WoTM

[silk cedar]

average addon talk discussion, i will now leave this place

[rustic gulch]

donno much about WoTM exos so

[frank mauve]

dont u need to start with ares first

also when u choose the order there should be an explanation of the order

[abstract oasis]

I started with him first

[fast nacelle]

what

[abstract oasis]

It ended with Thanatos last

Almost all the time

[abstract oasis]

I'm doing WoTM

[frank mauve]

isnt there an explanation at the start

[abstract oasis]

Nope, you just choose

[grim swallow]

Target the worm as he will always die first even if he's not fully targeted, then switch to your ranger weapon and ONLY shoot twins, ares gets cross fired a lot in twins+ares phase so any extra damage into him is bad

[lament lodge]

is ambrosial ampule or absorber better

for melee

[fast nacelle]

hellborn is liek sss tier

[abstract oasis]

I switched to melee, ark of the cosmos, works better

Now I got Exoblade tho

[rustic gulch]

absorber better proly

[frank mauve]

depends but ampoule has better overall stats

absorber offers defense and potion aura

[elder nebula]

both are good

[lament lodge]

should I use both?

[frank mauve]

yes

[lament lodge]

ok

[frank mauve]

whats ur setup loadout

[abstract oasis]

How good is Photon ripper against Infernum SCal?

[fast nacelle]

i think zenith was better

[elder nebula]

uhhhhhh

[fast nacelle]

buts its good

usable

[frank mauve]

can u even hit with it

[abstract oasis]

It's pretty long

[lament lodge]

currently pre moon lord. Exalted oathblade, this for armor/accessories

[fast nacelle]

photon ripper is like screenwide so yeah

[fast nacelle]

void is bad

[abstract oasis]

But I think Exoblade is better anyway?

[fast nacelle]

swap with absorber

and uhhhh

[lament lodge]

yea gonna replace it with absorber

[fast nacelle]

fishron wings r good

[frank mauve]

upgrade wings and forget void

[stiff coral]

IT GLITCHED

[frank mauve]

oh right its not really tmelee

[lament lodge]

wait is fishron better than beetle even with beetle scale mail

[stiff coral]

During the laser attack with the spiral beams right?

My game glitched and they beams stopped showing for a bit

[frank mauve]

tbf it doesnt matter u can beat ml with even tattered wings

[fast nacelle]

the extra stats isnt worth the reduced movement

[abstract oasis]

Honestly witch to Hydrothermic it's much better

[lament lodge]

wait what

everything ive seen is that scale mail completely eclipses hydro

[frank mauve]

go for reaver armor

🤑

[fast nacelle]

not really?

hydro is slightly better from what i know

[lament lodge]

oh ok

[fast nacelle]

but theyre just like sidegrades

[abstract oasis]

Vanillatards

[frank mauve]

use valhalla armor

[neon geyser]

i have the celestial armors post ml, and i needa run bloodflare from post polter all the way to post exos where ill get gem tech

[frank mauve]

why stick to boring meta armor

[fast nacelle]

PEAK

[abstract oasis]

Hydrothermic is clearly better

And looks better

More defense and more dmg

[frank mauve]

im so evil i mixed armor with valhalla

[fast nacelle]

why is it evil?

you dont really use valhalla for the set bonus

[lament lodge]

and then is true biome blade actually good

[frank mauve]

cuz armor mixing is evil and frowned upon

[abstract oasis]

So the best melee weapon I can use against SCal is Exoblade, right?

[fast nacelle]

i havent used valhalla in like a year so correct me if im wrong

[fast nacelle]

yeah but dont forget to do the dash

[frank mauve]

the set bonus is for the sentries

[fast nacelle]

it does a lot of damage

[fast nacelle]

for a somewhat mid sentry

[neon geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225030931008847874/1402824374825783357/Screenshot_2025-08-06_at_6.23.11_PM.png?ex=6911e742&is=691095c2&hm=746734e25dae94f0227fd4fc5322cd01ab31ec8867b87d8d2d20b3ef2b72838d&

goated mixed armor for melee post golem

[fast nacelle]

overclassed by all cal sentries

[fast nacelle]

are the leggings valhalla?

[lament lodge]

is this real

[neon geyser]

89 defense 22% melee damage 25% melee critical strike chance 20% movement speed

[frank mauve]

my fav ooa sentry gotta be the explosion one ngl

[fast nacelle]

but so peak

[neon geyser]

yes

[fast nacelle]

same

[frank mauve]

this is what i use usually ngl

[fast nacelle]

its just a mage weapon in reality

[fast nacelle]

peak as shit

[neon geyser]

yeah the stats are just so good

[frank mauve]

it also makes the event hella easy

[lament lodge]

and then for weapons should I go for true biome blade

[abstract oasis]

Yup

[neon geyser]

i love armor mixing

[fast nacelle]

i like omniblade

[neon geyser]

its real fun to figure put what combinations work

[fast nacelle]

true biome blade is fine

[fast nacelle]

if only cal didnt relocate like all stats to set bonus

the one thing i like more in vanilla than in cal is that armor mixing is viable

[frank mauve]

ooa armor mixing in vanilla is js chefs kiss

[abstract oasis]

Against?

[lament lodge]

ML

[fast nacelle]

oh use solar fury or the other solar weapon

thought it was for like pbg or sum

idk why

[lament lodge]

solar eruption?

[frank mauve]

use nebula lash against ml

[fast nacelle]

ue

ye

[abstract oasis]

Definitely Grand Guardian

With Hide of Astrum Aureus

[frank mauve]

use gender bender

[fast nacelle]

idk seems kinda boring to kill him in 2 seconds

[abstract oasis]

Well he's boring too

Fuck him

[frank mauve]

ml???

inf ml????

[fast nacelle]

infernum moon lord is pretty fun imo

i dont like the exploding line attack very much

[frank mauve]

try fighting him in water its even more fun

[abstract oasis]

I mean

It's just more lasers

[fast nacelle]

idk im a nohitter i cant just sit there 💔

[stiff coral]

It happened again

[abstract oasis]

DoG has portals

[frank mauve]

humble lava shark mount

[fast nacelle]

truth duke

[abstract oasis]

Providence is cool af

With the phase changes

[frank mauve]

its better than dukes mounts ngl

[sleek bramble]

unlike plantera

[stiff coral]

Should I use something that isn't the swarmer to see if that's the cause?

[fast nacelle]

if only fucking DOGMA didnt exist

[abstract oasis]

Yeah Plantera sucks ass

[fast nacelle]

the swarmer isnt that laggy but its best to try

[stiff coral]

Because the swarmer shits out 5000000000 projectiles

[fast nacelle]

otherwise see if its a mod issue

[stiff coral]

It's not lag it's just

[frank mauve]

swarmer is good

[fast nacelle]

i like planterra

[stiff coral]

The attacks disappearing

[fast nacelle]

[frank mauve]

plantera when ornate shield and slagsplitter

[abstract oasis]

what is that

[fast nacelle]

that may be prokjectile limit

[stiff coral]

. . .

[fast nacelle]

the crystal "phase" with the beams

[stiff coral]

so it is the swarmer

[nimble wing]

The projectile limit is 2000

[stiff coral]

Because again

[frank mauve]

that ones not bad what

[stiff coral]

It shits out like, 20 projectiles a second

[frank mauve]

the bad one is with the rock

[abstract oasis]

It's pretty messed up but it's manageable

[fast nacelle]

if this is infernum i did also have a bug with low quality mode that makes all beams just invisible

[stiff coral]

Not using low quality mode

[fast nacelle]

I HATE IT I HATE IT

SOOOO MUCH

[frank mauve]

just go far from her

[stiff coral]

Thing is the beams hitboxes aren't gone either

They just visibly go away

[summer pendant]

what reforge do i need for melee on my accesories?

[frank mauve]

warding

[fast nacelle]

theres a limit

[fast nacelle]

warding

[abstract oasis]

I think it's the one I hate the most too

[fast nacelle]

like the fire barrier she has during some attacks in basecal

[frank mauve]

ye ik but u can postion urself with her

to make her even farther

[fast nacelle]

true

[abstract oasis]

Inf old duke is the biggest piece of dogshit

It's disgusting and it looks disgusting

And the drops are disgusting

[frank mauve]

old duke whe mindless dash spamming

🤑

[fast nacelle]

od is the boss im doing after polter and i think im lowkey just gonna skip him

[frank mauve]

the reaper is quite nice

[fast nacelle]

i dont wanna do what is basically just sentries only no hit

[fast nacelle]

i like da acessory

[frank mauve]

the stamina one?

[abstract oasis]

Yeah he's useless unless you want something specific

[fast nacelle]

ye

[abstract oasis]

I really don't click with it

[frank mauve]

ive used it like once and it felt like a slot waster

[terse widget]

Okay but can we just appreciate how hilarious it is to see a flask being used on a flippin' ranger weapon

[fast nacelle]

as i said im doing what is practically sentries only so im most likely in need of the sentry

[abstract oasis]

But because I'm a maniac I wanted to kill him no matter what

[fast nacelle]

also no hit rules n shit

[frank mauve]

dont u like ranger too

he got a drop to make that one smg weapon

[fast nacelle]

they needed to make it more busted tbh

[abstract oasis]

Yeah I got that

[rustic gulch]

fetid emesis

[fast nacelle]

only weapon that isnt melee that can inflict both crumbling and ichor

[rustic gulch]

was it

[scarlet shadow]

or Butcher's Chainsaw with HoAD

[abstract oasis]

Yes I love ranger but I'm more of a utilitarian, I only switch to if it works better

[fast nacelle]

i dont like the smg line tbh

i like ranger

[frank mauve]

i dont like guns

[fast nacelle]

midas prime so cool

[abstract oasis]

Like with the three rune of Kos bosses

[fast nacelle]

i love exploding shit

[abstract oasis]

lol me too

[frank mauve]

ohh that make sense

[fast nacelle]

i love the gambling weapon

i love

ranger

PEARL GOD!!

[abstract oasis]

Kingsbane is one of the coolest things in the game

[scarlet shadow]

i love arc nova diffuser

[frank mauve]

bows

i like the other guns

theyre cool

[stiff coral]

Left the world

Tried to go back in

Ame crash

[abstract oasis]

I love the hive and plague-tainted smg

And plague reaper set

[frank mauve]

that ones broken

[abstract oasis]

yup

[fast nacelle]

i love like all ranger weapons

[frank mauve]

plague reaper has such a funny bonus set

[abstract oasis]

Post-golem ranger is one of my favorite stages of the game

[fast nacelle]

even my favorite vanilla weapon is ranger

[stiff coral]

What's the set bonus

[fast nacelle]

which is snowball cannon

[fast nacelle]

dash

[stiff coral]

Oh

[abstract oasis]

lol yeah blinding yourself for more dmg

[stiff coral]

Ram dash or just dash

[abstract oasis]

it's kinda tough ngl

[rustic gulch]

ranged plague themed item are just goated

[scarlet shadow]

so the same as the summoner one?

[scarlet shadow]

ram obviously

[fast nacelle]

wait no wrong thing

i meant

[frank mauve]

its fun when u know u can dodge attacks without seeing

[fast nacelle]

like

a mini rage

[scarlet shadow]

oh the blindless

[fast nacelle]

1.35x damage for 5 seconds but you get blindness

[scarlet shadow]

yeah uh

[fast nacelle]

they cooked with all ranger armors ngl

[scarlet shadow]

no im not aiming allat

[open spade]

when will wrath of the gods get fixed

[fast nacelle]

i used it with midas prime

[open spade]

my world has been unplayable for like a week

cause its broken

[frank mauve]

just for prismatic armor to be better 😪

[fast nacelle]

and bloodflare melee

smh my head

[scarlet shadow]

tarragon melee 😋

[rustic gulch]

omega blue in inf

[scarlet shadow]

we do not talk about the octopus

[rustic gulch]

why not

[frank mauve]

i never bloodflare ngl

i think it SUCKS

[fast valley]

is anyone else just too lazy to do infernum polter and skips it

[abstract oasis]

yeah you're not completely blind but it's still a pain against empress

[frank mauve]

hell no

[fast valley]

just straight to dog after prov

[frank mauve]

polters worth it

[fast valley]

nah

hes annoying

[scarlet shadow]

not me i basically quit my nohit at that point

[fast valley]

plus dogs mad easy

[rustic gulch]

only on tmelee

[frank mauve]

empress has like very predictable attacks

[fast valley]

polter is rng hell

[fast valley]

i mean

what else u gonna use

[nimble wing]

if i'm true melee i skip infernum polter until i need auric

[frank mauve]

maybe ur route isnt that good

[rustic gulch]

i go dog right after ml if tmelee

[fast valley]

Your inside of him 90 % of the time

pause

[frank mauve]

what

[fast valley]

i need no routing

[abstract oasis]

i like ranger against DoG in revengeance but death's ascension is just busted in Infernum so that's better

[scarlet shadow]

self pause sucks

[frank mauve]

how are u fighting polter what the flip

[fast valley]

yeah

[scarlet shadow]

proceed to make out with yourself

[fast valley]

i skip polter

mid fight

[abstract oasis]

One of the bosses that cause me the most pain in Inf

I'd gladly fight DoG again in comparison

[fast valley]

lucille was such a bum they stole the final attack from undertale crazy

tragic

[frank mauve]

shes not that bad

[fast valley]

i fight her early too

[frank mauve]

she gives inf flight

basically a free win

[fast valley]

most of the time post plant with terra blade

sometimes pre mech

although the movement is bad

[frank mauve]

just good wings and ur set

[scarlet shadow]

ngl thats like the easiest part of the fight

[fast valley]

Or a elaborate minecart track

[fast valley]

i died to it alot

[abstract oasis]

She is that bad (in more ways than one)

[fast valley]

my brotha from another mother

[frank mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-freaky-smile-sukuna-sukuna-smile-freaky-sukuna-gif-4852549280133734300

[abstract oasis]

🤝

[fast valley]

alr im headin to the gym (no terraria for an hour) cyall

[frank mauve]

sad

[scarlet shadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112873622562947104/1425031000408195193/looks-inside-cat-meme.gif

smh it almost loaded

[frank mauve]

smh my hear

[abstract oasis]

real

[frank mauve]

alr guys

bottom 3 inf bosses

[abstract oasis]

1-old duke

2-exos

[fast valley]

exos???

dawg

[abstract oasis]

and 3 uhh

[scarlet shadow]

old duke???

[fast valley]

wheres the slime god hate at

[abstract oasis]

slime god is ez

[fast valley]

yeah and bad

[scarlet shadow]

wheres the slime hate at

[frank mauve]

i got exos at first ngl i find them boring

[fast valley]

exos are really well orchestrated

[grim swallow]

1. Brimstone elemental
2. KS
3. signus

[fast valley]

i beat them inf low%

[frank mauve]

i fight scal first

[abstract oasis]

ugly old bastard needs to go back to sleep

[fast valley]

signus is really fun???

[scarlet shadow]

all three slime bosses of prehardmode suck ass

[fast valley]

NAH FUCK YOU SIGNUS THE GOAT

[grim swallow]

Brimstone is such a long but easy fight

[frank mauve]

brimmy noo

[frank mauve]

first sigma enjoyer ever

[grim swallow]

I have personal beef with him

[abstract oasis]

Ares ruins the entire fight if it wasn't for him I'd love the boss fight

[fast valley]

tp to surface and you have a fun fight

[abstract oasis]

But WoTM Exos is one of my favorites

[fast valley]

never played

pc torture

[frank mauve]

ik but its boring its basically go up down watch out for slash then thats it

[scarlet shadow]

"cheese the boss and you have a fun fight"

[abstract oasis]

lol

[fast valley]

https://tenor.com/view/khaby-lame-mechanism-khaby-lame-all-roads-lead-to-rome-alice-in-wonderland-white-rabbit-gif-5733541022582805688

alr ima actually head out

[scarlet shadow]

yeah no you really need that fresh gym air

[abstract oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/67-6-7-six-seven-sixty-seven-scp-gif-3295527985440468649

[frank mauve]

the fresh smell of sweat

[rustic gulch]

1. boomer duke
2. deerclops
3. aureus

[fast valley]

actually it smells pretty fine there

[grim swallow]

I despise king slime

[fast valley]

They have purifiers and shit

[fast valley]

hes mid but a good beginner boss

[grim swallow]

I usually dislike bosses that cant do shit

[abstract oasis]

Who said that

[scarlet shadow]

is that a reference to nameless deity

[grim swallow]

King slime can do way too fucking much

[frank mauve]

aureus is which one

[grim swallow]

[frank mauve]

is aureus the worm

[fast valley]

keep in mind most bosses are meant to teach mechanics

[scarlet shadow]

the brother from another mother

[grim swallow]

Aureus is the not worm

[rustic gulch]

worm is deus

[fast valley]

like perforators king slime and aureus

[abstract oasis]

Aureus is not bad just boring

[fast valley]

i really like aureus

[frank mauve]

astrum aureus

[open spade]

anyone know why this is happening to my items

[frank mauve]

ohhhhhh

yeah fairs

[open spade]

and textures are breaking

[fast valley]

the music is A BANGERRR

[frank mauve]

aureus a bitch

[abstract oasis]

No way

[dense ocean]

The mod isn't loaded.

[fast valley]

moonlord tho

[dense ocean]

That's what tModloader does when that happens.

[abstract oasis]

Do people like that?

[fast valley]

we all agree moonlords good

[frank mauve]

moonlord is like top 5

best boss

[fast valley]

yeah

[dense ocean]

Enable Catalyst to return them.

[fast valley]

providence is in there

[rustic gulch]

you can just stand above aureus and cheese it

[scarlet shadow]

deus is fun pre-golem so hes peak

[fast valley]

i think scal

[abstract oasis]

He's cool ig

[rustic gulch]

where's the fun in there

[frank mauve]

providence nighttime is genuinely hypnotic

[abstract oasis]

Just more lasers

[fast valley]

so top 5 we have scal moon providence(night&day) who else

[grim swallow]

King sline pulls off the aimbot crystal jumps like crazy and then spawns in mutant to shit on your platforms

[fast valley]

skeletron?

twins tho

[frank mauve]

twin

[scarlet shadow]

two words
self restraint

[fast valley]

hear me out the twins fight is really good

[nimble wing]

pbg

[fast valley]

peanut butter and gay?

[rustic gulch]

DoG?

[frank mauve]

she got unique stuff ngl

[scarlet shadow]

valid infernum-only

[abstract oasis]

Huh?

[grim swallow]

My top 5
5) enraged pbg
4) twina
3) cal clone
2) scal

1. prov

[nimble wing]

well we're talking about infernum are we not

[fast valley]

yeah

prov scal moon twins and dog in no order

[fast valley]

peanut butter and gay?

whats pbg

[frank mauve]

queen slime thoooo 👀

[grim swallow]

Plague bringer goliath

[fast valley]

oh i like plague

[grim swallow]

Only enraged tho

[fast valley]

my objective list is good tho

prov scal moon twins and dog

[grim swallow]

Un enraged is easy peasy

[nimble wing]

"objective"

[fast valley]

other things are subjective and can be switched

[frank mauve]

qs first

[abstract oasis]

Scal, Providence, Cal clone, DoG, Bereft Vassal

[grim swallow]

Dog in there seems weird

[fast valley]

forgot abt bereft 😭

bukm

[rustic gulch]

vassal? nah

[frank mauve]

vassal is only good for drops