calamity-addon-talk

[gloomy wedge]

bc like people are SO dedicated to using cal on everything

yeah all these compat addons are very well made and def great mods themselves, but it also makes people less willing to explore outside of their calamity comfort zone

[stoic ibex]

i thought the same way too, was legit flabbergasted when i found out thorium isnt compatibile with calamity by default when i could've sworn they were from the start

[vital mulch]

definitely a fair criticism but the sibling bosses in fargos are meant to represent specific parts of terrarias enemies so it does make sense that they use sprites from what they represent

[stoic ibex]

well considering the sheer amount of great stuff, bosses, biomes and more that calam adds, ya cant really blame them for not wanting to play without it and making every mod in the universe have something that makes it compatible

[empty flame]

lowkey im just gonna do vanilla fortheworthy truemelee

i cant be fucked with this fargos shit

[primal cosmos]

totally agree with you but it's the same for other bosses

that one hydra sometimes just shoots you with basic bullets and stuff eridanus just shoots stuff from the lunar events

[alpine tree]

can infernum cause lags? cuz my bros game started lagging after we added it(we also added few more mods so we dont know what is the problem, cuz mods are not THAT gamechanging)

[vital mulch]

infernum is more laggy than regular calamity because of its more intense visuals and shaders

[primal cosmos]

and yeah they're the siblings bosses and all but it does still seem like a pretty lazy way to make bosses

[smoky dock]

Every mod causes some degree of lag

[alpine tree]

he is lagging even at start of the world

[smoky dock]

But Infernum doesn't have much global impact

[dense ocean]

Insert Fabsol joke here.

[smoky dock]

Infernum boss fights can definitely lag but uhh

[alpine tree]

he got RLLY big difference after we added infernum

at start

[smoky dock]

what else did you add at the same time

[alpine tree]

bunch of qol mods and thorium

[smoky dock]

elaborate

Which QoL mods... does it include QoL Compendium

[gloomy wedge]

i feel like fargos' somewhat basic visuals are a big reason why i like its bosses tbh

theyre def not vanilla style, but they feel closely related to vanilla bosses

[vital mulch]

yeah I definitely agree its a bit offputting to reuse lots of vanilla projectiles and such but I dont mind it since the bosses themselves are still unique battles unlike a certain calamitous mod...

[gloomy wedge]

far more than a lot of other mods

[alpine tree]

ahh we added infernum, invincible npc, addon with some space boss after calamitas( not wrath of gods), and thorium

[primal cosmos]

yeah they are pretty unique as far as i remember

[alpine tree]

can it cause lags at start tho?

[smoky dock]

Ehh that, I'm not aware of any issues caused by them

[vital mulch]

its a lot more likely that its a different mod if you're lagging at the very beginning

[smoky dock]

Use regular troubleshooting strategy

[alpine tree]

i ll check for other ones

wait a bit

we also got brighter torches

but he lags even when there are no torches

ye the only 1 more is biome titles

can any of them cause lag or u dont know?

[smoky dock]

No, do the regular troubleshooting things

[cinder cosmos]

anyone having issues downloading infernum music mod?

everything else is fine, exclusively that is having issues

[ripe hill]

Nope?

[cinder cosmos]

weird, seems like a nuanced issue ill figure it out

[high briar]

Is there possibly a way I could get around the screen filter that appears when you fight moonlord in infernum? I literally can't see a single projectile, even with omniscience potions

[smoky dock]

Omniscience potions highlight projectiles a red color but that tends to blend in

Try disabling Omniscience

[frank mauve]

wdym

theres no screen filter

it never existed its all an illusion

[orchid fractal]

I legit can’t make it anywhere in IER because it won’t stop lagging at the worst times for and entire 10+ seconds or more periodically

[stoic ibex]

so there i was, relishing in my victory against infernum wall of flesh after putting in a few attempts at it

relaxing in my sky base going over the loot i got

when suddenly

STORM WEAVER HAS AWOKEN

STORM WEAVER IS NO LONGER AFTER YOU

made my heart do a fucking olympic gymnastics routine

good fucking LORD

[orchid fractal]

Lag for ten seconds starts now

Oh good my game still runs

[gloomy wedge]

Dw he does that

Def the coolest non-boss thing Infernum does

Plus the Signus jumpscare

[empty flame]

signus cooler icl

[orchid fractal]

Honestly it comes off as more of a mistake

Like it makes me think it was hastily designed together and storm weaver accidentally spawned but it realized it made a mistake and immediately despawns it

Like the spawn trigger was made of duct tape 👍

[high briar]

Any tips on profaned guardians

struggling with phase 2

[rustic gulch]

does metanova bar can be used in every uelibloom recipe?

[night fractal]

storm weaver is a boss though

[lofty mist]

Storm weaver is going to eat your face off

[narrow coral]

doesn't he just show up to eat a harpy or two and leave

🌩️

[snow sun]

I’m sorry.

WHAT

[frank mauve]

yes he'll eat a monster for fun

[thin canyon]

SW jumpscare

[pulsar storm]

do they have a discord server i can join?

[narrow coral]

ya

it's probably in the other discords channel somewhere

[frank mauve]

eggs on salad

[narrow coral]

[orchid fractal]

Never seen him eat a harpy but it feels like an accident that became a feature™

Could be wrong though

Either way the ambiguity of it makes it feel stupid

[narrow coral]

well it looks like this

look at him go

[vital mulch]

infernum devs made signus and ceaseless spawn in their biomes but storm weaver? yeah not intentional just an accident

[brittle nacelle]

Guys any pure damage set for yharon? using melee

[frank mauve]

dont remember realistic sky having that much stars 🤔

[smoky dock]

1. Omega Blue with Dimensional Soul Artifact. Everything else is personal preference or mandatory for everyone
2. dont use hyper offense

[frank mauve]

omega with dsa yeah its already over

negative life regen fights over before it even started

[smoky dock]

not necessarily that

omega blue with dsa doesn't immediately kill you
You should never have negative life regen with omega blue unless you've seriously fucked up and it's 100% your fault

The issue is that you just can't bounce back from mistakes

DSA not only increases incoming damage but it also eats an accessory slot which should have gone towards giving Omega Blue some much demanded bulk

[frank mauve]

i was joking but why sometimes i die of alcohol poisoning in the middle of a boss fight when i barely drank 2 alcohol

[smoky dock]

Known bug

[frank mauve]

damn it

[smoky dock]

If you die to any debuff from most sources while you have any alcohol debuff active, the death message will be <PlayerName> died of alcohol poisoning.

[frank mauve]

atp i feel like only r*ngers use that accessory or summoners

[narrow coral]

i increased the star count config by a lot

[smoky dock]

If you die to the Alcohol Poisoning debuff applied to you whilst having consumed 4 or more drinks, your death message will be something along the lines of <PlayerName>'s liver failed. or <PlayerName> drank too much.

[smoky dock]

No, anyone can use it

Nobody should

[narrow coral]

it goes up to 100k i think

[smoky dock]

But, theorertically, anyone could

[frank mauve]

i see that looks much better than default

[narrow coral]

real!!

[frank mauve]

so thats why i only died to skill issue

[smoky dock]

I think the only exceptions to this are like... real, genuine Alcohol Poisoning and Chalice

[brittle nacelle]

how about accessorys?

[frank mauve]

the second accessory hmmm

[smoky dock]

Celestial Shell has long since been outclassed

[frank mauve]

i couldnt believe hes post provi

[smoky dock]

And Statis' Void Sash is really good, yeah, but you really need a ram for Yharon so Asgardian Aegis is kinda mandatory

Elysian Wings are just flat out worse than Silva wings

[brittle nacelle]

guys gimme a good summon so i can damage while melee

[brittle nacelle]

what should i chabe?

[smoky dock]

You can use the class setups page for summoner to find a good minion

[smoky dock]

uhhhhhh depends on armor choice

Omega Blue really likes using Bloodflare Core

[brittle nacelle]

imma try omgea

but where do those reaper sharks spawn

[smoky dock]

God Slayer and Fearmonger want more damage so they can use Warbanner of da Sun or uhhhhh

Badge of Bravery

[frank mauve]

last abyss layer

[brittle nacelle]

i always get killed by worm

[frank mauve]

dont teleport there

[brittle nacelle]

even

[frank mauve]

then uhh

get the potion

[brittle nacelle]

when i use my hellavator

[smoky dock]

if it's an eidolon wyrm then you just lost a coin flip

[brittle nacelle]

he spawn

[frank mauve]

wait a min

did u make a helleveator for the abyss

[brittle nacelle]

imma go with omega armoir

[brittle nacelle]

yeah

[smoky dock]

what the hell

[brittle nacelle]

magic hellevator

what

[frank mauve]

[brittle nacelle]

whwattt?

[smoky dock]

When you die are you being killed by Primordial Wyrm

[brittle nacelle]

yeah

[smoky dock]

Or are you being killed by Eidolon Wyrm

[brittle nacelle]

primodial

[smoky dock]

lemStare

what status effects do you have

[brittle nacelle]

what

[smoky dock]

normally PW only spawns when you have the Chaos State debuff

[brittle nacelle]

i only use the world tele

[smoky dock]

dont

[frank mauve]

how many qols u got gang

[brittle nacelle]

yall why my tesla aura not working

[brittle nacelle]

idk

bruh i died

[frank mauve]

maybe the abyss doesnt like u or something

[smoky dock]

The Tesla Potion doesn't work properly with infinite buffs

Use it normally or don't use it at all

[brittle nacelle]

bruh i drown

[smoky dock]

[frank mauve]

do u have the abyss diving suit

[brittle nacelle]

no

[smoky dock]

use an Abyssal Diving Suit to last the intense pressure down there

[frank mauve]

ngl the abyss diving suit looks really cool

everytime i go in the abyss it reminds me of pacific rim

[brittle nacelle]

is death ascension good enough for yharoin?

ah nahh i accidentally summmon eidolo

[frank mauve]

how do u keep summoning it

[brittle nacelle]

i mined sometim

any accessory set for omega armor

[mellow vortex]

stupid question, but is is the Calamity Texture Pack mod considered official in the same way that VCMM is?

i ask cuz i like to play things "as intended" but that really doesn't have a good definition other than "however the devs wanted you to play the game," and i know vcmm is highly recommended, but idk about the texture pack (sorry for resending the message, i put it in the wrong channel before)

[granite bough]

me when I try to look for the fucking "bar of life" in recipe browser

(why is my brain stuck in the past)

[smoky dock]

as mentioned before Omega Blue really wants Bloodflare Core so that you can

like

heal

and stuff

but other than that you'd just kinda use the same stuff you normally would, at least for Yharon

Just with more of a defensive lean than usual since your damage output is already sky high. Anything more is overkill

[vital haven]

are there any downsides to getting the no evil biome spread mod?

[smoky dock]

Makes it more of a headache to expand the opposite evil island if desired

But other than that, ehhh. not really

[vital haven]

oh thats what that is

wondered why i had a red floating island lol

[open flower]

Deranged Lihzahrd

[smoky dock]

Yep! Complimentary Crimson

[smoky dock]

lemStare

[open flower]

Whats that

[smoky dock]

lemurianparty

[vital haven]

i made a separate world to kill brain and the perforators but i realized also that bestiary counts per world not character so i guess ill have to manually spread out crimson

[smoky dock]

[smoky dock]

although if you have another mod which adds the same effect (Quality of Terraria) then I'd suggest just using that function instead

Smaller modlist = better

[vital haven]

oh didnt realize qot can disable evil spread i just set my settings once at world start then never looked back

noted for next time i guess

[smoky dock]

QoT singlehandedly cut my modlist in half

It has so many features, I love it to bits

[vital haven]

been enjoying calamity so far just reached hardmode

[smoky dock]

omg you reached peak true melee time

[vital haven]

im hoping melee gets better still struggling to find a use for it against bosses

ive just been spamming the lionfish

[smoky dock]

true melee is officially peam starting in hardmode

[vital haven]

yes idt ive ever used melee in unmodded so giving it a shot here

[smoky dock]

Just remember to experiment with a lot of different weapons

As far as I know there's only one Calamity weapon that's well and truly unusable

[dense temple]

for Wrath of the Gods, is there a way to have Solyn fire her beam during the Mars fight without pressing LMB/RMB simultaneously?

I don't play with a mouse, and my trackpad (don't judge) doesn't have distinct left/right mouse buttons, so unless I whip out some weird macro it is literally impossible for me to press LMB/RMB at the same time

[clear quail]

try rebind your use/attack and interact key (which default are LMB and RMB respectively) to different key

[dense temple]

I see, that might work
I can't test it right now (the laptop i use to play calamity is a little bit "need to order a new battery") but I thought I'd ask before I forgot to

Thanks

[grave marsh]

yes i went on the infernum skeletron music video to find this

i need this arena

it looks cool

if i can't have it, i want to know what materials it uses to i can build it myself

[slow vapor]

I wanna do a run with calamity addons. What are the best ones I should install?

[grave marsh]

catalyst

hunt of the old god (i butcher the name constantly)

wrath of the gods

infernum

(preference) wrath of the machines

oh yeah and also evil johnathan

because you just know

[grave marsh]

but also

[wicked creek]

Infernum and Wrath of the gods are really high quality add-ons that rework in infernum's case, or add post game in WOTG'S case, quite a bit of stuff, and they're generally what I'd consider the best

Fargo's souls and calamity compatibility dlc is a very high quality mod, but it's not finished yet, and also you have to like Fargo's souls which isn't necessarily for everyone, especially because it's really meant to be played in eternity or masochist mode )

Catalyst is also very good but it adds comparatively less content. Still really nice to have

[grave marsh]

eh

i didn't really like eternity

that one's more preference based

[wicked creek]

Well, the boss reworks are very high quality, on an objective standpoint

The calamity ones I mean, the Fargo's ones are mostly good but there's also ones I don't like

[grave marsh]

i won't argue with you on that because i don't want to start an arguement

old duke is cool tho

[wicked creek]

Well, which ones do you think are bad about the calamity boss reworks for eternity?

[grave marsh]

skrunkly

[grave marsh]

most except like

the twins

destroyer

and like

[wicked creek]

I said the calamity boss reworks , not vanilla ones

[grave marsh]

all except perforators and old duke

just my opinion tho

maybe calclone

[slow vapor]

Infernum looks interesting but how hard is it compared to revengeance?

[wicked creek]

Aye, fair enough

[grave marsh]

her brothers are kinda cool

[grave marsh]

revengeance is the sick baby to infernum's atomic bomb if you're a new player

[wicked creek]

It's noticeably harder but it's very fair and you can learn it with enough persistence

Pre moon lord it's not that much harder, post moon lord (in general, it has exceptions) it gets quite a bit more difficult

[grave marsh]

yeah

[slow vapor]

hmm I've beaten revengeance once but I haven't played terraria in like 2-3 years so idk

[wicked creek]

But regardless, even I , which I consider myself a bad player, did manage to beat it eventually with an unoptimized setup and determination

[grave marsh]

it's a fun and well designed difficulty, that's what keeps you hooked even though you're getting mollywopped by fucking aquatic scourge

except for a very select few bosses

[slow vapor]

yea the enemy patterns look much more well designed

looks like they feel harder but less random

[grave marsh]

forgot to add exos

i fucking love eternity exos and idk why

they're not even that complex

[wicked creek]

Hype moments and aura

[grave marsh]

true

[wicked creek]

And also they run better than basecal exos somehow

[grave marsh]

thanatos has so much aura when he does the giant laser only to get spanked cause you can delete him during the attack

[wicked creek]

Precisely

There are a few stinkers in infernum too but noticeably less than basecal

[slow vapor]

i think i'll just go for it. does it work with all those other addons?

[wicked creek]

Yes, except for Fargo's compatibility patch

[grave marsh]

i'll probably have better opinions on eternity calamity when it's fully made, the lowest points for me in my eternity run were when death mode bosses became the main bosses and it dragged down my opinion

cause i hate death ceaseless

[wicked creek]

And the catalyst superboss does give you weapons that are OP for the stage you get them at , but that's on purpose as they're meant as a reward for beating a very tough challenge

However that does mean you have a weapon that's OP for providence and guardians which are some of the best infernum bosses in my opinion

[grave marsh]

i'm pretty sure this gear can carry you to pre-dog if you really want to drag them out

[wicked creek]

Depends on the class

[grave marsh]

true

[wicked creek]

But yeah generally it's balanced to be good till post provi/post polter

[grave marsh]

mage intergalactic is mid asf i think

it kinda struggled on polter but it was alr

[wicked creek]

Except the scythe of the abandoned god , which is meant to be good even against DOG

Because it's what you get for doing it hitless

[grave marsh]

just use kevin

not the weapon

feed kevin the angler to DoG

happy DoG

friend

that's canonically why devourer of the cosmos is fren

[slow vapor]

what about calamity overhaul?

[grave marsh]

no

[narrow coral]

terraria overhaul clears

[wicked creek]

Check the pins on this channel as to why it fucking sucks

[polar vigil]

Hello, guys
Question for everyone who completed Infernum
What’s your opinion on Pbg and Exo Mechs?

[wicked creek]

Honestly I liked exos a lot for the most part

The fact you get to choose combinations allows you to play strategy to avoid stuff you find too hard, but even the easier ones are not easy per se. And the attacks themselves are pretty fair to understand and dodge.

[maiden fjord]

infernum pbg? it's peam

[wicked creek]

PBG is cool, and the implementation of drones makes it a unique take on a "summoner" boss that's not just a swarm of enemies

[polar vigil]

It has drones?

🫨

[maiden fjord]

the drones building a literal nuclear bomb is a nice addition

[polar vigil]

Honestly I sucked at Pbg in og Calamity for mage
Because I could not find a proper weapon for killing bees

Even the final four was easier than him

[wicked creek]

Yeah, they're especially cool in two attacks:

One, waves of drones surround you and make a laser between each other, making a small shrinking polygon. You need to destroy one of the drones to remove a corner and not get hit that way

The second, at low enough HP when PBG summons some drones, you'll see a message that says something along the lines of "Nuclear weapon construction" and if you don't kill a certain duo or trio of drones fast enough, they make a literal nuke that explodes and kills you

[wicked creek]

Well honestly you could have used razorblade typhoon for the drones

But don't worry, there's fewer of them and they're larger in infernum

[polar vigil]

Okay
I started infernum as a rogue
Guess I will find something better this time than just a Post-Plantera disc xd

Got stuck on Duke Fishron yesterday
Like, in my 3rd attempt I was approaching to final phase
But in the latter tries I died like a fraud

[brisk orchid]

Infernum is too hard for my skill issue

[polar vigil]

But I will not lie
It is another goated rework

[polar vigil]

What modes did you manage to complete in base Calamity?

[maiden fjord]

I'm still having a major skill issue on infernum dog

[polar vigil]

If you defeated death expert

1. Infernum will be much more likeable
2. It will be easier in a lot of places

Except I think, Perforators/Hive Mind, CalClone and Cryogen

[ripe hill]

Me never doing death, I go straight to infernum

[ripe hill]

Same dawg

[polar vigil]

That’s the spirit

[wicked creek]

I have massive skill issues too

But with perseverance

I beat it eventually

[ebon solar]

oki i took down guardian healer

doable fight

[gloomy wedge]

Dw you’re going through a universal experience

Dog just takes like 200 attempts on your first try

[ebon solar]

ima first attempt dog trust

[river valley]

It's not something u can easily first try

[plain gust]

i trust

[gleaming gorge]

yo

guys how do i kill infernum old duke

hes too quick with the dashing

Guys how many attempts did profaned guardians take on ur first infernum playthrough

idk what happened but i faced them yesterday and it took me 14 att

[dense eagle]

70-100

[gleaming gorge]

my friend on the other hand (we’re doing separate solo worlds) took 170

[dense eagle]

they are pretty hard

[gleaming gorge]

did i fluke it massively or wth happened lol

my friend was on them the whole day yesterday

[dense eagle]

not sure, some qol mods could also make it easier

if you have any

but overall, skill

[gleaming gorge]

im just using the infinite potions thing, fargo’s mutant

and more if i can recall

im also using luiAFK which is apparently almost cheating so idk

[gleaming gorge]

idk how it’d impact the fight but

[wicked creek]

Honestly there's one really hard phase (the defender and commander circle bullet hell attack) but once you get past it, it's pretty easy IMO. So if you managed to get past it on one of your attempts, it may be you got lucky and won

However there's one way to tell if it was s fluke or not: how confident do you feel about their patterns

[gleaming gorge]

idk ab their patterns lol i just reacted to the indicators on screen

i first tried calamitas clone and leviathan which my friend was also stuck on

so i didnt get much time to learn their attacks

[wicked creek]

Well not all attacks have indicators there necessarily, like the one I mentioned

There's defender dashing in that attack too which has an indicator but not the fireballs

[gleaming gorge]

well yea but u can react to them coming

also using rod of discord which i may have used during the fight i dont remember

[wicked creek]

Well it gets harder for most people to juggle the movement in the air, the fireballs, and dashes, while in an enclosed space

But if you did get past it while actually learning how to dodge it, even better for you

That means you're good at this

[gleaming gorge]

ive played a bit of geometry dash jetpack platformer which is kind of similar so may have helped a bit

[gloomy wedge]

30

[gleaming gorge]

which class do u recommend i do after? Im thinking ranger

[gloomy wedge]

After what

[gleaming gorge]

nice

[gloomy wedge]

Guardians?

[gleaming gorge]

after i finish my summoner run

[gloomy wedge]

Ranger

[gleaming gorge]

if I finish it lol

OD and DoG not looking too good

[gleaming gorge]

alr

[wicked creek]

Mage has some really cool infernum exclusive weapons (also it's my favorite class)

[gleaming gorge]

ohr ok

[gloomy wedge]

Yeah but Ranger has superradiant

And the glassmaker is very cool

[gleaming gorge]

do u guys use luiAFK or not?

[gloomy wedge]

No

[wicked creek]

Whatever, go my illusioner's reverie

[gloomy wedge]

Lui is hella cheaty imo

[gleaming gorge]

o

[wicked creek]

I tend not to use qol mods at all except like, boss checklist lite

[gleaming gorge]

im not actually aware of what it adds except the infinite things

[wicked creek]

Not necessarily HELLA cheaty but stuff like infinite mana absolutely is

[gloomy wedge]

I mean considering it has INFINITE MANA

[wicked creek]

Well the infinite mana accessory line first and foremost

[gleaming gorge]

yea ive never played mage with it

[tame crest]

after "only" 27 whole attempts I fannly gottem !! he was just really though because of that one attact where he shoots the skulls, not the "wall with a hole" one with other

[gleaming gorge]

nice bro

[gloomy wedge]

You passed the test

[gleaming gorge]

guys what do we thing the hardest pre-hardmode boss is

[gloomy wedge]

Idk they’re all pretty free

[gleaming gorge]

lol

[gloomy wedge]

Clam I guess?

[gleaming gorge]

clam?

[gloomy wedge]

Skeletron and WoF are insanely easy

HM and Perfs just kinda don’t do anything

Same with evil1

[gleaming gorge]

i got stuck on brain but beat it in 2 attempts the day after

same thing with providence

[river valley]

Brain

[wicked creek]

For a player that's new to bullet hells, skeletron

For any other player, giant clam

[gleaming gorge]

dang

[gloomy wedge]

Inf lowkey the freest mod of all time until guardians

[wicked creek]

Idk empress is also not free

[gleaming gorge]

actually i wouldnt know bc i beat it after brain

[wicked creek]

And aquatic scourge

[gleaming gorge]

i felt like hm was much more smooth sailing than pre hm for me at least

u actually get some mobility

[wicked creek]

You have no idea how obnoxious clam was for melee (because I didn't know how good seashine sword was so I used a shitty boomerang

[gloomy wedge]

All I’m saying is I first tried every boss from calclone to cultist

[wicked creek]

How did you know how to dodge the opening empress attack?

[gleaming gorge]

oof

[gleaming gorge]

fr that took me to at least half health on my first like 15 att

[gloomy wedge]

I didn’t

I just had hella def

[gleaming gorge]

what class

[wicked creek]

.....ok fair enough

[gloomy wedge]

Ranger

[gleaming gorge]

dang

[wicked creek]

Any class can have hella defense for that matter , with defensive accessories and reforges

[gleaming gorge]

o

[wicked creek]

Summoner could have used Valhalla knight armor in that scenario which would have been even tankier, but other than that, not too much of a difference

[gleaming gorge]

i dont remember what i used icl but it wasnt that

[gloomy wedge]

Yeah in cal most defense comes from accessories

[gleaming gorge]

is kaleidoscope better than the vassal one yea

[gloomy wedge]

Just use both

[gleaming gorge]

why

how many playthroughs u guys done

[gloomy wedge]

Whipstacking is the single most broken thing you can do in calamity

[gloomy wedge]

For infernum? I’m on my 3rd for IER

[gleaming gorge]

nice

[gloomy wedge]

Others were melee and ranger

[gleaming gorge]

whipstacking?

[gloomy wedge]

You can have multiple whip tag bonuses at the same time

Plus, whip damage isn’t additive, it’s multiplicative

This is most evident if you whipstack morning star and kscope, which gets you 1.49x minion damage at no additional cost

[gleaming gorge]

oh

dang

ima try that when i get on

[honest minnow]

Oh wow, that sounds like an oversight

[gloomy wedge]

Not an oversight if its been in the game for 5 years

The real issue is that calamity changed tag damage from a flat +x damage bonus to a x% damage bonus

Also none of their weapons are designed around whips in the slightest

[gleaming gorge]

wait is the 30 potion = infinite buff mod luiafk?

also do u not use alchemistnpc

because like

[gloomy wedge]

It’s also fargos mutant

[gloomy wedge]

I’ve been shifting away from it recently

[gleaming gorge]

is that fine or

[gloomy wedge]

I mean, it’s your playthrough

It depends on if you care or not lol

[gleaming gorge]

ig yea

but is it seen as like

less skill

or just saves time

[tame crest]

what test-

[tame crest]

thank youu

[gloomy wedge]

How to move good

[gleaming gorge]

np

[honest minnow]

The last 2 whips already add a psuedo x% damage bonus by allowing crits, so idk if that change is necessary for them to remain relevant

[gloomy wedge]

Oh it definitely isn’t a necessary change

I think the only reason it exists is because devs went like “well we can’t have blade staff being too strong! lets buff every other summon in the game instead”

Thankfully its getting reverted next update

[gleaming gorge]

last question, is it calamity that makes boss spawns be not consumable or another mod?

[gloomy wedge]

That’s calamity

[gleaming gorge]

ohr ok

[tame crest]

ohh yayy

[scarlet shadow]

intergelactic is mostly better unless you're doing a summoner nohit or smth

[rustic gulch]

which true melee is the best for astrageldon?

[fast nacelle]

Omniblade good

[wicked creek]

Well grand guardian gives some lifesteal and has good range, which makes it good because astrageldon has timed damage reduction which means it doesn't matter too much how much damage you're doing, it's not dying faster than a set amount of time

[tame crest]

I should probably do brain of chutulu sometimes

mhmm I'll do it in hm

[pliant vortex]

im gonna

[tame crest]

just a question, is it normal that like, my slimegod just leaves sometimes ??

[fast nacelle]

It’s a bug but it happens a lot

Just don’t let them go off screen

[tame crest]

my whole strategy bieng to be as far as possible to have more time to avoid projectiles :

guess I'll do without

[fast nacelle]

You can try to use a grappling hook to get back

Is it infernum?

[tame crest]

yep

[fast nacelle]

What attack r you struggling with

[tame crest]

first and third

so when the slime are alone

when there's both they kind just throw stuff but its fine

but the first part where it's only crimson then when it's only corrupt are uh

fast, and they hurt alot on contact

(I have terraspark and like every speed buff possible so-)

nvm got it

5th try yippe

[rustic gulch]

So, am I prepared enough fot Geldon?

as a tmelee

[humble marlin]

not quite, replace evasion scarf with absorber
angel threads with either fairy boots or ursa seargant
and beetle wings with fishron/empress wings

[nimble wing]

And scale mail with shell

Can Geldon really be rammed consistently, like, ever?

[humble marlin]

prob not

[nimble wing]

I don’t think this should take any boots either

[humble marlin]

yeah id rather have ursa over faries but

faries bulk is decent without penalty

[rustic gulch]

ursa makes me feel rly slow

[maiden fjord]

I rammed to geldon once when they do the slam attack
I go down, go left or right, then go up

[rustic gulch]

is it only for debuff immunity

[wicked creek]

Defense

And some regen

The astral infection immunity is alright but not that big of a deal unless you're fighting aureus or deus

[rustic gulch]

got this setup through phase 1 and I need replacements for phase 2 for sure

[rustic gulch]

I had asgard for this, would there be better options? @nimble wing

[nimble wing]

I guess not

[maiden fjord]

aight so
my current gear in my ranger collection run

Clockwork Bow
Astragelgun [Catalyst]

Vortex Armor

Celestial Starboard
Asgard's Valor
The Absorber
Cherished Sealocket
Deadshot Brooch
Destroyer Emblem
Statis' Curse

[maiden fjord]

no
valor is the only ram dash accessory until providence

[rustic gulch]

where did the scope go

does Statis' curse worth to use else for summoner?

here I go btw

[humble marlin]

OH YEAH CSHELL IS A THING

looks decent

[rustic gulch]

I got bulky as hell but damage was kinda poor

maybe I should use other than grand guardian before reaching half hp

baleful harvester seems good enough

no it sucked

[tame crest]

uhh not sure if it's a calamity or infernum thing but

what is this

it's been spawning and following me randomly, not a normal mimic since I can't attack it nor does it damage me

[rustic gulch]

that's not even calamity

open it with a gold key and you'll get a town slime

[tame crest]

oh- well sorry for the bother then

thanks

[rustic gulch]

nvm

[inland path]

does vcmm override infernum music?

[rapid forum]

Iirc vcmm has a toggle in configs to set if vcmm or infernum takes priority for the music. By default it should be vcmm unless they changed it recently

[inland path]

hm okay

also does the whips mod add anything catalyst doesn't

[humble marlin]

uh some whips that are practically irrelevant

the good ones are in catalyst so

no need to downgrade to ucw

[rapid forum]

Like do you really need a wulfrum whip?

[rustic gulch]

FINALLY GOT THIS PURPLE BEOTCH

[humble marlin]

more mods should add the draedon coil ngl

[rustic gulch]

I never really knew that the bolts it shoot grows massively in speed and number

never fought this long before

[frank mauve]

what boss

[rustic gulch]

astrageldon

[humble marlin]

soft enrage + rdr are the best mechanics ever right 🥹

[rustic gulch]

I always beat it within 2 cycles of the whole pattern, and was surprised by the fact that it's pattern strengthens as the cycle goes on and on

[frank mauve]

damnn i forgot about geldon

i should enable catalyst back on

[rustic gulch]

damn tmelee

[scarlet shadow]

how long

[rustic gulch]

6 cycles

[scarlet shadow]

wow thats more than my tmelee run

i think

[rustic gulch]

it shoots bolts like normal ranger

literally

[scarlet shadow]

what was your fight time btw

idk how long the cycles last 💔

[rustic gulch]

donno

uninstalled boss checklist

[scarlet shadow]

nycros nohit efficiency tho?

[rustic gulch]

forgot about that

going for it rn

can I see the previous record if I re-enter the world

cant'

[frank mauve]

not even using lite?

[frank mauve]

no

[rustic gulch]

I am using lite

[frank mauve]

scam

[frank mauve]

yeah better get nycro then

[rustic gulch]

but can't find any ui to look up any records

it doesn't such boss logs like norma checklist

can't find keybind either

[frank mauve]

what

i mean it only got a list

but wdym keybind

it has one

[rustic gulch]

ye I know about this but

normal boss checklist had a log book for each bosses

[tame crest]

how to get herring staff ? the chests are apparently removed in infernum

[frank mauve]

catch the herring

[rustic gulch]

get herring critter with bug net

[frank mauve]

critter

its like first layer

of abyss

[rustic gulch]

so whre can I check my records

[tame crest]

okies thanks, also wouldn't that mean you can get it pre boss now ?

[frank mauve]

yeah i remember it had time/attempts and how many hits

[rustic gulch]

herring spawns after skeletron defeated

[frank mauve]

most abyss stuff is post skele yeah

[tame crest]

ah okie

thanks alot

gonna go get it for WoF

[rustic gulch]

I tested with king slime and there was not a single dialogue showing time

or how many huits taken

maybe I need to adjust configs

[frank mauve]

ur talking about nycro?

[rustic gulch]

yes

[frank mauve]

yeah u have to turn it on in mod configuration

open it and go all the way down

[rustic gulch]

got it

thx

[frank mauve]

ngl idk why its like this

someone could download it and think it doesnt work

[scarlet shadow]

welp first hardmode boss down

[fast nacelle]

Oldlamity mod!

[steep cobalt]

sort out your inventory jesus fucking christ

[tame crest]

I somehow got lumenyl..??

not sure if im supposed to get it pre hm

[steep cobalt]

also the candle effects don't override eachother with qot enabled

so feel free to use all 4 candles without repurcussions

you'll reap all of their effects

[tame crest]

didn't find a herring yet tho

[steep cobalt]

fish for the herring staff then

[scarlet shadow]

nah i dont think i will

i'll wait for post-dog since thats where i can legally combine them

[steep cobalt]

b-but 10% more defense effectiveness!!!

[scarlet shadow]

1 vigorous candle at a time

[frank mauve]

cheating

[steep cobalt]

honestly i'm not even that puritanical about it

unless someone pulls out a fucking community slot mod

[frank mauve]

i feel like wingslot is too normalized these days

[chrome moth]

its fine

i think more accessory slots makes the game more fun

but there should be a more concrete line of what is QOL or not

because people throw qol for everything

[scarlet shadow]

and then these ppl ask why their nohits or any other challenges are invalidated 💔

[fast nacelle]

Istg if I get dqd for using the lui afk return scroll I will die

[scarlet shadow]

yeah sure five hundred dimensional soul artifacts

[scarlet shadow]

just inf vanilla buffs that one is reasonable

[fast nacelle]

I meant not using it just having it in inventory sorry

[tame crest]

you can fish for it ?

[steep cobalt]

maybe

[scarlet shadow]

whats so bad about the return scroll though

[wicked creek]

Yes, inside abyssal crates post skeletron iirc

[fast nacelle]

LuiAFK scrolls are explicitly not allowed

But return scroll doesn’t

Do anything in battle

[tame crest]

...do I fish for those?

like where

[fast nacelle]

So it’s just an useless item

[tame crest]

in the abyss directly ?

[steep cobalt]

sulphurous crates

[fast nacelle]

Yes

[fast nacelle]

Sulphurous sea or abyss

[steep cobalt]

uh

hmmmmm

[wicked creek]

Sulphurous sea

[wicked creek]

Hydrothermic crates if in hardmode

[steep cobalt]

wrong xd

[scarlet shadow]

the only really problematic one is ichor (melee scroll) since its stackable with crumbling flask

[tame crest]

guess what spawned while I was asking where to fish

[fast nacelle]

Yeah (and I think some potions stack with lui)

[steep cobalt]

honestly i ditched luiafk a while ago and it felt refreshing

[scarlet shadow]

and also lifeforce but thats only in rekindled since cadance potion is removed

[wicked creek]

In general I greatly recommend substituting luiafk with Fargo's mutant

Similar purposes, but one doesn't make you involuntarily cheat by accident

Unless

You have infinite astral injection

[steep cobalt]

real

[rustic gulch]

for gods sake why the fuck do guardians never give me warbanner in first ten tries

[scarlet shadow]

or unless you have a stack of Purified Jam in rekindled

(literal invincibility)

[rustic gulch]

to they detect the class I'm on rn or what

[wicked creek]

Well in general I don't think you can use rekindled in nohits

[fast nacelle]

At like 30 hour so grew tired of something so I got a few qol mods

QoT and LuiAFK

[frank mauve]

yes thats how rng works

itll never be in ur favor

[steep cobalt]

that's not feasible without world hopping anyways

[rustic gulch]

dammit

[steep cobalt]

since the amount of purified jam you get is fixed

actually wait you can't replenish the stock

[scarlet shadow]

i still get purified jam from sg's treasure bags so im not sure about that

[steep cobalt]

uh

[scarlet shadow]

yeah thats what the removed content page says

i still get 5 from sg's treasure bags no matter the amount of kills

so certainly rekindled dev's mistake

[tame crest]

the herrings carried fr

[scarlet shadow]

anyway what tierskip should i do

i did astrum deus pre-golem in my tmelee run so im thinking of doing that pre-plantera or earlier

[frank mauve]

im doing that in my current run

or pre mech

since thats my only upgrade

[scarlet shadow]

i am pre mech currently so might be worth a shot

just gonna kill cryogen rq

[dusty cobalt]

Pre plantera fishron

[crude pebble]

is there any mod that disables boss respawning for multiplayer ? me and my friends wanna make it harder

[tame crest]

oh my god this seed is so scuffed, a entire crismon got replaced by astral inefection and my whole tundra got replaced by hallow

[delicate warren]

https://www.reddit.com/r/terrariamods/comments/1ddlb8u/is_there_any_mod_that_lets_you_disable

[scarlet shadow]

surface crimson is useless in hardmode anyway

[crude pebble]

alr ty broski

have u ever tried it?

the BetterMultiplayer mod

[delicate warren]

No, I normally play alone, or with people who kinda suck

[crude pebble]

alr alr ty

[gleaming gorge]

brto

can someone give me tips on old duke like

i keep trying to ram into him but I keep dashing into his green gas and flying projectiles

do I need to expand my arena

[scarlet shadow]

why do you fight him underwater

[gleaming gorge]

I dont, thats my AS arena

[frank mauve]

ppl make arenas for as?

[gleaming gorge]

tbf

ig I didnt have to

but its there now lol

[scarlet shadow]

thats a shit ton of platforms even for him

[solar badger]

yo can i get sum tips on defeating argus on what gear should i use, im a melee class. lowkey having trouble fighting his 2nd and 3rd phase

[scarlet shadow]

either way add 1 more platforms above the water

but make it spaced out

like next to the middle of overworld's height

[frank mauve]

fr u dont need that many platforms

[gleaming gorge]

oh

is the lunar hook just the best one

[scarlet shadow]

nope

Bobbit Hook

[frank mauve]

bobbit hook my beloved

[scarlet shadow]

theres also astrageldon's hook but thats if you have catalyst which you proly dont

[gleaming gorge]

wth is a bobbit worm

[frank mauve]

doesnt that one swing u?

[gleaming gorge]

drops depth cells so abyss?

[scarlet shadow]

void layer enemy that drops a hook when killed

[gleaming gorge]

alr

[scarlet shadow]

no it teleports you

[frank mauve]

theyre on the ground

[gleaming gorge]

ok ty

[scarlet shadow]

like hook of dissonation but with ridicolous hook speed and length

[frank mauve]

ohhh

should be decent then

does it stop all ur momentum tho

cuz that sucks

[gleaming gorge]

I cant find bobbit

is it the deepest layer?

[smoky dock]

Yes

[frank mauve]

yes u should go all the way down till u the see abyss ground

[gleaming gorge]

im just finding reaper sharks

oh got the hook nice

[rustic gulch]

astral lash might be the best hook out there

it's like QS hook and lunar hook mixed together as one

[gleaming gorge]

wow I just got melted as soon as I hit 15% health on od

this is so annoying like I feel like theres nothing I can do

I got to it full hp

[frank mauve]

could always the full spam dash strat

[smoky dock]

I’d rather roll wit da bobbit hook

[gleaming gorge]

huh

just died to it again

ffs

[shell aspen]

did you hear about the new modpack that combines infernum thorium and other content mods togheter

[gleaming gorge]

I was playing without sound before 🙏

[shell aspen]

inferal solar light

it was called

[smoky dock]

I vaguely remember the Astral Lash having a very slim window to launch yourself with it

[smoky dock]

Never heard of it

But I don’t buy it

[shell aspen]

i found it https://youtu.be/NBFKjxQzYbw?si=wH7wI_dqKQD28xyG

[smoky dock]

To make modpacks like that work correctly they require custom patches tailored to the exact modlist

[shell aspen]

its not payed

oh

i thought you meant buying nvm

[smoky dock]

“I don’t buy it” is an idiom meaning “I don’t believe it”

[nimble wing]

Yeah but did you hear about Fargo’s 2.0

[smoky dock]

peak detected

[shell aspen]

ill play that later

[nimble wing]

It’ll take some months to be done anyway

Just checking

[fast nacelle]

I always have low hopes for modpacks

always

[shell aspen]

hope is still there

no?

[smoky dock]

Yeah, it’s foolish to say modpacks will NEVER work

[fast nacelle]

As much hope I have for SSO in 2025

It’s like a 1/100 chance it’ll happen

[shell aspen]

i havent even played infernum yet

[shy marsh]

im playing infernum and what do i do?

[shell aspen]

so ill be staying away from modpacks until then

does it add more content

or is it just updates to the bosses

[smoky dock]

none of the devs have said something like “we’re almost done we’re just testing” so I don’t think SSO is gonna come out soon

[gleaming gorge]

15%

like what

[smoky dock]

Yes, some new items, structures, and an overhauled Abyss

[smoky dock]

What the hell

[gleaming gorge]

uhh

[smoky dock]

That looks like the cavern lab with all modded blocks removed

Your world might be corrupt

[shy marsh]

i dont know what happened, i just started but i kinda dont wanna make another world as i have explored quite a bit

[smoky dock]

Use cheats to check the sulfurous sea and abyss

And the profaned garden

[shell aspen]

its not late to start a new world tbh

[shy marsh]

ah, how do i send my mod list? maybe some mods fight each other, the mods i have worked like a year ago, just started playing again and most updated

[smoky dock]

Hit F8 twice whilst in-game

Then take a screenshot

[fast nacelle]

Did you destroy the lab

It isn’t important for any boss

The mount is nice

Tho

[shy marsh]

ah wrong reply

[fast nacelle]

Doesn’t answer my question

Yea

I’ve never seen that happen with a structure before

[shy marsh]

got any idea which ones doesnt work together?

[fast nacelle]

It’s really interesting tbh

[nimble wing]

What’s your Infernum version

[shy marsh]

its the one with drill mount

[fast nacelle]

Yes I know

But I haven’t seen that happen with a structure in general

[smoky dock]

Looks fine to me. The only issue that could probably arise from that is just one of the mods was programmed so poorly it caused that??? But the odds of that are REALLY slim

[nimble wing]

I’m shocked (positive) that you don’t have Boss Checklist

[open flower]

👍

[open flower]

Lynel can i get unbanned

[shy marsh]

fought with some mods way back, just didnt bother getting it again to avoid risks like whats happening right now T T

[nimble wing]

This may not do anything but I have a suspicion

[nimble wing]

Go to Wombat’s configs and disable Spore Fog

[gleaming gorge]

like my gear isnt even bad for OD

[fast nacelle]

“Use Elysian wings”

[fossil bluff]

@wicked creek All Warding (I've tried Menacing/Lucky), got all buffs and flawless Wrathwing. I already tried Seraphim and it was complete ass.

[gleaming gorge]

what do I do ab my celestial tracers?

[fossil bluff]

Takes like 3 minutes on average to get past Brothers and being made of soggy paper really drained my motivation.

[fast nacelle]

Sell them

[gleaming gorge]

huh

[fast nacelle]

Or shimmer for angel treads

[nimble wing]

Swap Community for Affliction

[gleaming gorge]

then what do i replace for them

[smoky dock]

Dark Sun Ring is a better statstick imo

[fast nacelle]

Elysian wings

[nimble wing]

Right, DSR

[fast nacelle]

Dsr my BELOVED

[rustic gulch]

are there any reason not to use the mirror and nanotech together?

[fast nacelle]

Don’t think so

[nimble wing]

Oh right you could swap scales or glove for nanotech

[fast nacelle]

They both stack

[fossil bluff]

Alright.

[rustic gulch]

is this for inf exos?

[fossil bluff]

No Infernum SCal.

I was doing Exos but Thanatos had other ideas.

[rustic gulch]

scal before exos would be much harder

[fossil bluff]

I was also giving Goozma a few shots but that was pretty fruitless.

[nimble wing]

Well no wonder Seraphim was bad, it’s mostly used for spam on Exos

[wicked creek]

Ok first of all if you're doing stealth, do 4 warding and 3 silent

Secondly, your accessory loadout kinda sucks. Replace amalgam with sponge, glove of precision with nanotech, community with dark sun ring (or radiance) and dragon scales with radiance (or rampart of deities, or chalice of the blood god), and tracers with wings of rebirth

So, as far as weapons go, seraphim is particularly good when used with a mainly spam sort of build, specifically against Thanatos (albeit it's not too bad against ares either). Wrathwing can go either way, and in general is a very solid weapon even solo. Dreamtastic is EXCLUSIVELY spam, no stealth strikes, it feels like a manaless mage weapon honestly. Then there's seared pan, which is really good against ares iirc, much prefers stealth.

I greatly recommend going for exo Mechs over Scal, because celestus deals amazingly with sepulcher, and supernova is really good, and draedon's heart is amazing

[fossil bluff]

SCal is more consistent by a mile.

[nimble wing]

Well yes, but Exos are easier to shred by a mile

[rustic gulch]

but her drops would suck anyway for exos

[nimble wing]

They’re also more rewarding by a few miles

[fossil bluff]

Understood, this general set up worked fine for other classes but guess Rogue is a special case.

[hollow schooner]

What mods/extensions should I add to my Calamity? I want to have as much Calamity as I can get

[wicked creek]

Well rogue does get sacrifice which is pretty nice and shattered community which is nice too, but not nearly as good as exos drop

[shy marsh]

looks like i need a new world, used an endgame character

[shell aspen]

i dont like rogue tbh

[wicked creek]

Well honestly stuff like having dragon scales and glove of precision over nanotech is weird, it's kinda like having Deadshot brooch instead of elemental quiver, for example. Both are good accessories but elemental quiver is your MAIN damage accessory for the class

Same with nanotech

[rustic gulch]

yeah, and to use shat community you'd most likely to get rid of any defensive accessories(since rogue can't take any of their offensive acc imo) and that'll make exo's projectile much more dangerous

[fossil bluff]

Brain explosion.

[wicked creek]

You could take off DSR (the slot occupied by the base community in their loadout)

Shattered community has some defensive benefits too

Minor ones of course

[rustic gulch]

and he lacks defensive accessories way to much already

[wicked creek]

Yeah which is why I told him how to fix his loadout beforehand too

[rustic gulch]

[fossil bluff]

Well Exos it is.

I was able to semi-consistently get adrenaline by phase 2 should I use that on Ares or save it for the wormie?

(Twins first Ares second combo.)

[wicked creek]

Save for worm IMO

Ares twins phase is not that bad, and Thanatos is one of the more meltable exos

[fossil bluff]

Alr.

Thanatos has been the big issue since if I can't melt him it's straight to the void in 2 shots average.

[wicked creek]

Is it the bites he does

[rustic gulch]

have you tried final dawn

[fossil bluff]

Yeah his charges really suck.

[wicked creek]

Well you remember how you dodged DOG?

Same shit but he's smaller and has more attacks

[fossil bluff]

I'll give it a shot.

[fossil bluff]

I've played Infernum countless times this is just my first Rogue run.

[brave current]

im trying to kill aquatic scourge in pre-HM with melee on infernum. i can consistently get it to 10% health but i due when it goes nuts after surfacing out of the water. any weapon recommendations for it? i feel like my current weapon does little damage
i have a gelitic blade using the flame flask and luxors gift
the rest i have is just counter scarf + balloons + boots + wings
and statigel armor

[nimble wing]

• If you haven’t played Fargo’s Souls, then don’t do Fargo’s Souls DLC yet. It’s totally worth playing after that though
• Infernum drastically reworks every boss, most minibosses, and the Abyss; and adds one new boss, a few structures, a handful of items, and an entire set of achievements
• Wrath of the Gods adds a character who provides a quest line spanning the entire game, culminating in three wonderful new bosses
• Catalyst adds one post-Cultist boss that a lot of people really like, plus assorted flamethrowers and whips

Once you’re decided on the content part, please show me your ENTIRE modlist. Some mods are very problematic and others are very vulnerable to those problems.

[fossil bluff]

Thanatos's charges just piss me off.

[rustic gulch]

and thanatos is much easier to coil than DoG, try coiling it and use stealth in the coil

[fossil bluff]

I don't want to cheese it that's just a personal thing.

[rustic gulch]

I never thought of it as cheesing but as you think so nvm then

[fossil bluff]

Coiling is very much cheese in my eyes.

But that's besides the point, thanks people.

[nimble wing]

https://youtu.be/lGxaPxxG74c

[rustic gulch]

wish you luck

[hollow schooner]

are Fargo and Calamity conflicting mods or can I run them at the same time?

(or is Fargo enjoyable by itself before booting the Calamity DLC?)

[rustic gulch]

btw auric tesla+ is much more powerful for tmelee than I thought

[fossil bluff]

I know how to dodge the charges but they still piss me off.

Thanks again though.

[nimble wing]

If you want to do Souls, definitely do it alone first
DLC exists specifically to make Souls and Cal work well together; it tweaks a lot of balance and recipes, adds enchantments and forces for Cal armors, and gives new Eternity AI to Cal bosses. It’s not finished though

[hollow schooner]

aight

thank you

[nimble wing]

Also NEVER MIX MODS THAT REWORK THE SAME CONTENT!!!!

[hollow schooner]

Noted

[nimble wing]

This goes namely for Souls/DLC and Infernum

[fossil bluff]

Wow ok yeah my set up was sub optimal this is easy as hell now.

[nimble wing]

Your setup was all well and good, but just equipping Sponge alone is as strong as equipping like three setups at once

[fiery mango]

I did this but exclusively for DoG then turned Infernum back off

you cant make me fight the other dog.

[fossil bluff]

Sponge is goated.

I'm getting much further into Thanatos, Seared Pan is kinda fun too so progress yaayy.

[fossil bluff]

I don't know if I'm relieved or more upset by how much easier that was.

[rustic gulch]

dog dog

[wicked creek]

Hahahah

Told you dawg

[fossil bluff]

Jesus Christ what the hell.

[wicked creek]

Now, get your hands on celestus and supernova, and maybe even atom splitter if you got it

[fossil bluff]

Thanks a bunch but now I'm just even more pissed at how poo poo Stealth damage is. 💔

[wicked creek]

What?

[fossil bluff]

Seraphim spam is just goated.

[frank mauve]

stealth damage is good

[nimble wing]

Sponge does that to you

[rustic gulch]

seraphim is the exceptual case

[frank mauve]

i remembering hitting 50k against scal

[rustic gulch]

ig it's made to spam

[wicked creek]

Ok listen up now, for calamitas I order you to use celestus stealth for sepulcher, and atom splitter or supernova stealth for the rest of the fight

[fossil bluff]

Well yeah I know that.

No brainer.

[wicked creek]

See how bad that damage is

[smoky dock]

stealth damage is like

👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍

[rustic gulch]

celestus, the supreme sepulcher shredder

[fossil bluff]

Also Dreamtastic is awesome I didn't know that thing existed.

[rustic gulch]

inf dev weapon

[fossil bluff]

Ate dirt compared to spam.

[rustic gulch]

NO WAY

[frank mauve]

show something else than slick cane

cuz nobody is using slick cane

[rustic gulch]

trogue melee

[smoky dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/350387256583782400/1418272774828589066/wedoalittlebitofspawndamage2.mov?ex=6904e3f3&is=69039273&hm=8e225dfdb3d1639d50b5d16fc1a4594fb632d463df774bfca61b73ac78db1865&

[frank mauve]

yes finally

wait no

thats just a post endgame weapon

[rustic gulch]

storm maiden's wtf

[frank mauve]

boring

show us an actually VIABLE weapon

thats not slick cane

[rustic gulch]

something like spear of destiny or reality rupture ig

[frank mauve]

finally

[smoky dock]

More than a third of the SS tier weapons are rogue weapons

[rustic gulch]

cursed dagger is also a viable stealth weapon

[smoky dock]

7 of them are stealth

[frank mauve]

kelvin catalyst 🥹🥹

[smoky dock]

bad weapon

[frank mauve]

amgry

[rustic gulch]

does Hy stands for hybrid

[frank mauve]

it stands for hell yeahhh

definitely haha trust

[rustic gulch]

okey got it

[smoky dock]

Yes

It means you can use either spam or stealth well

[rustic gulch]

I just hate spam

[smoky dock]

Good

[rustic gulch]

where's the fun in it

[smoky dock]

rang*r but somehow even lamer

[frank mauve]

well if u look at rogue

its basically r*nger with reloading

[rustic gulch]

I love stealth so I never use spam with even heavenly gale

[frank mauve]

spamming with gale is a crime

it deals like 0 dmg if u spam

[rustic gulch]

one moment when ranger become rogue

my fav point of the ranger playthrough

[frank mauve]

only bows matter anyway

[scarlet shadow]

well dang

i might gonna have to do him post mech

[frank mauve]

4% in 2min looking great

[stiff coral]

Should I still be using butterfly wings for golem?

[scarlet shadow]

got him to 2nd phase

hence the hp reset

[scarlet shadow]

ye sure

[frank mauve]

i use angel wings by that time so ur good

[scarlet shadow]

demon wings 👅

[stiff coral]

. . . really?

[frank mauve]

right so that means its still doable 🤔

[lofty slate]

Can i use my old world for infernum?

[frank mauve]

no

[stiff coral]

Either way I'm using butterfly wings because mage

[scarlet shadow]

most likely

[stiff coral]

No

[frank mauve]

yeah i only switch to duke fishron wings

[wicked creek]

Could use spectre wings with spectre armor

[scarlet shadow]

i also have defiled mode on which completely disables any form of flighttime

[frank mauve]

why not spectre wings

[scarlet shadow]

so i was still using bundle of horseshoe balloons

[frank mauve]

really fun

featherfall or no

[scarlet shadow]

nope

[stiff coral]

I don't want to mine chlororphte and I'm using brimflame armor

[frank mauve]

ive been using it in all my playthroughs lately

[frank mauve]

oh fairs then

butterfly wings are really cool

[stiff coral]

Is Spectre armor that much better than brimflame?

[frank mauve]

no idea but i like spectre armor

[scarlet shadow]

definitely

[frank mauve]

plus u get boost with the wings

[wicked creek]

Brimflame armor has better damage , especially if you use the set bonus often

Spectre armor is much better for survivability

[stiff coral]

Ah

[scarlet shadow]

should i use Clothier's Wrath or Poseidon for astrum deus

[stiff coral]

I haven't been using the set bonus much

[rustic gulch]

atlantis

[plucky dune]

whats the best ranger weapon for infernum guardians

[stiff coral]

Flip a coin

Or go with what would be more miserable

[frank mauve]

whatever deals more damage

[stiff coral]

id say aruelis but that's if you did Astrageldon

[fossil bluff]

yayyyyy

[frank mauve]

but poseidon homes

and clothiers wrath projectile is slow as shit

[stiff coral]

Homes but worse cc