calamity-addon-talk

[viscid scaffold]

A buzz saw is kinda like a chainsaw right?

[steep cobalt]

buzzsawing your balls

[maiden fjord]

buzzkill

[smoky dock]

there is a definition of what a "chainsaw" is in this game

[viscid scaffold]

I know

It’s a tool like the drill for axes that doesn’t benefit from mining bonuses

But hear me out, buzzkill and superradiant slaughterer are saws like a chainsaw

[steep cobalt]

saw... like the movie?

[maiden fjord]

a yeetable sawblade

[steep cobalt]

ultrakill reference

[smoky dock]

ultimately there's no real... stakes here

you're doing your challenge run for your own enjoyment

so it's up to you what is and is not valid

allowing Superradiant Slaughterer should make it less AIDS

[viscid scaffold]

You’re right actually

[viscid scaffold]

I’m not yardis so that’s also fair

[steep cobalt]

what run should i do?

[viscid scaffold]

hammers only

or pickaxes and drills

[maiden fjord]

sycthes only 🙂

[viscid scaffold]

yardis did it

[smoky dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279480813947326649/1279481048098410558/caption.gif

[steep cobalt]

there's no sycthes

[viscid scaffold]

yardis is basically the Simpson

[viscid scaffold]

Sickle

[steep cobalt]

there's only scythes

your impish whelp

[smoky dock]

a lot of "___ only" runs will devolve into cheese and accessory/armor damage

I beat DoG using a Handheld Tank w/ Party Bullets

[steep cobalt]

coldheart icicle run let's fucking go

[smoky dock]

there's nowhere else to go from here so anything else would just make it easier

[viscid scaffold]

I like how yardis brought glory to chronomancers scythe tho

Such a beautiful weapon

[smoky dock]

bad

[snow sun]

Ok

[maiden fjord]

I truly underestimate chronomancer scythe

[smoky dock]

kek

[viscid scaffold]

it’s available like right after post ml and has great damage and homing (tho it’s slow)

[smoky dock]

bad weapon

[viscid scaffold]

It’s fast high dmg attack is better for close up but still

[smoky dock]

unviable 👎

[fading dove]

minishark with cluster rocket 2

[viscid scaffold]

For other mage weapons it is

[steep cobalt]

alright

[smoky dock]

bad

[smoky dock]

[fossil saffron]

All weapons are bad except my Beloved Awesome Virid Vanguard

[pastel basin]

would yall say intergalactic armor is better than valhalla armor?

[smoky dock]

okay that's about as good as handheld tank

[fading dove]

depends

[viscid scaffold]

I mean mad alchemists cocktail glove is good, but for pure dps it’s outclassed

[smoky dock]

depends

[snow sun]

Huh

[fading dove]

for spam rogue, probably not

for stealth rogue, it does bare minimum (gives stealth)

[smoky dock]

it makes stealth rogue function

[steep cobalt]

mhm

[smoky dock]

REAL

[snow sun]

What

[scarlet shadow]

🤯

[snow sun]

Yeah it’s weird

[pastel basin]

what does it depend on🤔

[steep cobalt]

fuck

[smoky dock]

a few things

[steep cobalt]

AGAIN

[smoky dock]

umm

[scarlet shadow]

huh

[fading dove]

if this didn't take at least 2 hours on this attempt then did you really beat it

[scarlet shadow]

❓

[smoky dock]

well it depends on how many brain cells you want to use in a fight

if you want to uze 0 brain cells

[steep cobalt]

whatever imma just fucking deal with infernum true melee

[smoky dock]

use valhalla knnight

if you wanna use a few brain cells

use intergelactic

[steep cobalt]

and then legendary masodeath once fargo 2.0 comes out

[smoky dock]

if you want to use ALL your brain cells

use valhalla knight

[scarlet shadow]

i guess not

[steep cobalt]

valhalla knight my beloved

[pastel basin]

this is a really tough decision

[smoky dock]

If you can't decide, pick one at random or using some arbitrary metric and use it for a bit. Then if you hate it, switch off

[steep cobalt]

the new mutant looks promising

[scarlet shadow]

i facetanked some of his slams at full hp to butcher's chainsaw + hide of astrum deus

[steep cobalt]

with 2 attacks deriving from the roaring fraud knight

[scarlet shadow]

that shit deals over 12k even with geldon's dr

[snow sun]

Nice

[steep cobalt]

https://www.youtube.com/live/UJwW-m6aDAw?si=JGb8UpLi9h_PXv2Z

the man somehow got granted access to the beta

[scarlet shadow]

if only Respiteblock was true melee..

[fading dove]

lotta people did

yardis

chippy

another person i think

soul of terraria tier patrons

[scarlet shadow]

did what

[fading dove]

testers

[steep cobalt]

yummers

it seems that the class essences is going to get extirpated in the upcoming update

[fading dove]

yeah

[maiden fjord]

the new fargo enchantment sprite is absolute banger 🙂

[scarlet shadow]

oh no

[fading dove]

this has been known for a while

[scarlet shadow]

spoilers 😨

[fading dove]

essences getting slaughtered is quite public

[scarlet shadow]

im not knowing this for a while

[maiden fjord]

rest in piss fargo class essence

[fading dove]

also soul resprites

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/237778006637019136/1419029361356570835/soulcomparisons.gif?ex=68f28c94&is=68f13b14&hm=dc48131a7521da50b0af95e608beee7499f1c9e0d2ea9225310d3556ad051d25&

[scarlet shadow]

deserved, literally just flat stat buffs

[fading dove]

the guys are being removed

[steep cobalt]

what about the soul of the master?

[maiden fjord]

absolute cinema

[scarlet shadow]

put a spoiler tag or sum vro you're flashbanging my eyes 😭

[fading dove]

iirc everything except dimensions, terraria, and cosmos is getting resprited

[steep cobalt]

mhm is that the anglonic mystic blossom i'm seeing?

[snow sun]

Way better

[steep cobalt]

[snow sun]

Wait so soul of eternity is getting a resprite

[fading dove]

there's been quite a few submissions

[steep cobalt]

what about the soul of the master...?

[scarlet shadow]

[fading dove]

but its current sprite is very much on the chopping block

[scarlet shadow]

damn anything but that

[snow sun]

It is kinda meh

[fading dove]

is master included in dimensions, terraria, and cosmos

[steep cobalt]

guh?

wait so its components are now scattered in different souls now?

[scarlet shadow]

soul of the master IS ugly

[fading dove]

recipes are also being debloated

new combos and stuff

the shield is crafted from magmaw's material

[snow sun]

Ooo

[scarlet shadow]

woah

[fading dove]

the hallowed pendant thing is probably from lifelight if i had to guess

magmaw is earth challenger btw

placed at same tier as golem

[snow sun]

Cool

[fading dove]

wizzed ench examples

also styx armour resprite 👀

and souls

[steep cobalt]

minecraft obsidian block

[fading dove]

the enchs in a force follow a theme

oh yeah dlc stuff

[steep cobalt]

i can clearly see the pixels in this one

[snow sun]

YOOOO

[steep cobalt]

do you have one that actually has graphical fidelity because i'm struggling to ascertain the pic

[fading dove]

no

[scarlet shadow]

good

😮‍💨

is ts good for moonlord

[steep cobalt]

what is trudle anyways?

[fading dove]

its like wordle but for true

[snow sun]

What

[scarlet shadow]

trudle worm platter

[fading dove]

i mean its alright

valor isnt doing a ton

i'd run ursa over it

fishron wings too

[tawdry violet]

Tyrant soul is coming back to dlc?

[scarlet shadow]

oh right i completely forgot to replace it with evasion scarf

[fading dove]

eventually yeah

[cyan tiger]

dog is touching me

[gloomy wedge]

This is so fucking sick what

[peak vector]

why did inf providence just leave me mid fight

she just turned blue and left

[fading dove]

did you check your clock

[snow sun]

“Why are you blue”

[maiden fjord]

"why are you blue and disintegrate my body? "

[narrow coral]

papyrus got to her

[indigo gale]

Is infernum moonlord hard?

[fading dove]

eh

[maiden fjord]

kinda

I'm definitely not ready for the final 5 in infernum

[fading dove]

jared is a nothingburger

one of his attacks is dodged by not moving

[indigo gale]

What’s harder? Eternity Moonlord or Infernum Moon lord?

[maiden fjord]

I answer eternity

[elder nebula]

my first playthrough i didn't know it was post yharon and i went down there with demonshade and a svantechnical

[scarlet shadow]

hell yeah

[scarlet shadow]

Masodeath

[indigo gale]

Wasn’t an option

[grim swallow]

Eternity

Oh wait I havent actually fought erernity

Only maso

But I'd still guess eternity

[indigo gale]

If I’m not mistaken, eternity moon lord locks what weapons you can use for a little bit right?

[peak vector]

is damage supposed to be not great for melee providence because im on pace for like a ten minute fight bro

[grim swallow]

He switches pillar based phases and if you hit him with a wrong class you deal 80% less damage

[indigo gale]

Figured

Didn’t know if he got reworked since last time I fought him

[elder nebula]

that's been in the game for several years

[smoky dock]

A 10 minute fight is a weapon issue

[peak vector]

ight maybe that was too much but like probably just over 6 minutes

is that just expected for melee or is that too much

[smoky dock]

No, that's still a very slow fight

My fastest kill was 1:43

[peak vector]

melee?

[smoky dock]

Yeah, 'course

Try switching to a different weapon

[peak vector]

elemental shiv is the weapon to use right?

[smoky dock]

Depends!

[scarlet shadow]

neither Elemental ShMID and Ark of the PEAKlements take that long to chip her health down

[indigo gale]

So little summoner me is cooked

Does rouge count?

[smoky dock]

Elemental Shiv's weak projectiles are not going to do as much damage as you'd hope

It's there for dealing damage at long ranges when it's not possible to get closer

[fading dove]

little summoner you is cooked on pillars

[smoky dock]

Take advantage of Elemental Shiv's strong true melee hitbox or use something else entirely

(Generally speaking more complex and difficult weapons will be stronger)

[peak vector]

not gonna lie i didn't even know elemental shiv was anything more than a projectile omg

[indigo gale]

I already done that

[smoky dock]

Melee in general deals dramatically more damage at closer ranges

[peak vector]

im an idiot alr nvm im good

[scarlet shadow]

hence the name "melee" class

the more you know

✨

[peak vector]

if im gonna get close ark of elements does more right?

[scarlet shadow]

indeed

combine that with parry and you'll get some hefty dmg

[indigo gale]

Does rouge count for the damage reduction on eternity moon lord?

[peak vector]

thats why im playing range with melee accessories and weapons bro

[smoky dock]

I've never used Ark of the Elemids, I've never seen footage of Ark of the Elemids, I've never seen a description of the effects of Ark of the Elemids

I don't like it

[scarlet shadow]

wuh why

[smoky dock]

👎

[scarlet shadow]

[smoky dock]

are you epecting me to cheat on my favorite weapon in the entire video game

[scarlet shadow]

stellar stroker?

[smoky dock]

ew

[indigo gale]

True biome blade?

[smoky dock]

Gilded Proboscis 🥰

[smoky dock]

okay that's a bit better

[indigo gale]

Isn’t that the life steal dragonfolly spear

[smoky dock]

Yeah Gilded Proboscis is Dragonfolly's spear

[scarlet shadow]

oh right i should get that

[peak vector]

was lowkey thinking of using that but never did

[scarlet shadow]

should i make any major changes in my current setup besides solar set and wings

[smoky dock]

not really

post-moom lord doesn't really get you any good accessories

gilded probscis..... is my favorite......... wearpn,........

[scarlet shadow]

oh right i can get the uh

normality relocator

[smoky dock]

oh yeah

[peak vector]

does providence do contact damage or is she just like in the background

[narrow coral]

0 contact damage

[smoky dock]

no contact damage

ever

[scarlet shadow]

damn dragonfolly kinda tuff on tmelee

[final basin]

I HAVE DEFEATED AVATAR OF EMPTINESS

That was the longest 6 minute fight of my life

My frames were going CRAZY

[steep cobalt]

masodeath aoe wasted 7 minutes of my time

because i accidentally fought them offtier

and phase 1 posed more of a peril than phase 2

[scarlet shadow]

holy stat bloat

[steep cobalt]

calamitous presence did basically nothing

[final basin]

I feel like dying holy

[steep cobalt]

didn't really stifle me in any noticeable ways

not that i can earn anything from aoe other than

uh

emptiness sprayer to procastinate the insurmountable task that is persisting through masodeath mutant

nd is locked behind mutant in fargo dlc anyways

[fading dove]

the capped regen is the main deal with it

[scarlet shadow]

i love taking like 3 hits to die with a tmelee setup

[steep cobalt]

this can happen when you improperly copy a world

heh

[surreal blaze]

eternity death ML is cooking me hardd

[scarlet shadow]

master infernum dragonfolly my beloved

[steep cobalt]

replace arch amaryllis with nebula arcanum

[fading dove]

where's your seventh slot

[surreal blaze]

7th?

[steep cobalt]

precision seal to slither through moon lord's attacks

[maiden fjord]

le mutant pact

[fading dove]

mutant's pact gives you another slot

celestial onion is killed

[steep cobalt]

mutant's percs

[surreal blaze]

LMAO

cooked

[maiden fjord]

mutant's biceps 🙂

[fading dove]

wiz tiki is doing absolutely nothing

dark artist is doing a grand total of shit

[surreal blaze]

i dont have dark artist on

[fading dove]

single stat class stick...........

ah right thats shinobi

shinobi is pretty good

its a safer but less rewarding alternative to betsy's heart and pumpking's cape

[steep cobalt]

here's the loadout i recommend
empress wings
verdant doomsayer's mask
master ninja gear
mutant's antibodies
wiz reaver ench

uh

what else...

[fading dove]

pumpking's cape is so fucking tasty

genuinely like top 3 single accessories

[steep cobalt]

mhm parry

[fading dove]

6 second cooldown but you heal what you wouldve taken (up to 200)

[steep cobalt]

dubious circuitry as well

[fading dove]

ah right dubious

[steep cobalt]

or idk, essence or fire gauntlet if you're a melee speed connoisseur like me

[fading dove]

solid bulk and basically a free deathray every 30 seconds

essence is not good

[steep cobalt]

but that's pretty fucking rashful

even i dissuaded myself from using them for ml

[fading dove]

rash is +1% attack speed

[steep cobalt]

[fading dove]

even with the violent line acting as another source of mult, it's still not worth using over warding

[steep cobalt]

whatever it's an imprudent decision to use either of them

for ml

i wasn't even using rash in the context of terraria...

[smoky dock]

warding secretly exploding my damage output because aggressive play is better

[steep cobalt]

true

for weapons, daybreak and entropic claymore are adequate choice

[fading dove]

grand guardian 🤤

though thats mainly for the core

[steep cobalt]

what is arch amaryllis doing here?

[surreal blaze]

majick

idk it looked decent

[steep cobalt]

just use nebula blaze/arcanum

[fading dove]

blaze specifically

ever since arcanum stacking got put down

[steep cobalt]

damn

for summoner

uhm

[fading dove]

1 terraprisma rest cells

[steep cobalt]

1 terraprisma and cells is the meta

[surreal blaze]

really?

[steep cobalt]

yes

ranger seems palatable enough

[surreal blaze]

im.. not gonna question it

[steep cobalt]

though i prefer phantasm

if you're going to do masodeath though, due to the vortex exclusive to that mode and above, the otherwise abysmal dragon's breath

...is your best choice for consistently hitting ml

[fading dove]

cells have a special attack where they attack again if a non set bonus non stardust cell attack hits an enemy

[fading dove]

ive learned the lightning is actually not that bad

like genuinely just use vortexpopper or phantasm

[steep cobalt]

eh true

another reason to just ditch that appalling shit

[fading dove]

like you'll usually wanna be moving around during vortex thanks to the true eyes

[steep cobalt]

i like how mutant's antibodies' deterrence is literally one of the most negligible downsides out there

[fading dove]

you can't afford to stay in one place for long thanks to only being able to really move in one direction

[steep cobalt]

how much life regen does it decrease again?

[fading dove]

uhhhh

[steep cobalt]

if it's 1 then imma just scoff at that all day

[steep cobalt]

what

[thin canyon]

rabid

[night rapids]

rabid

[fading dove]

it lowers regen in the same way that feral bite does

[night rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbids-screaming-bwah-rabbid-scared-gif-16609879

[steep cobalt]

feral bite doesn't specify it

great

[fading dove]

i don't have a decompiled terraria on hand so you'd have to look yourself

ah

the regen page does

[steep cobalt]

whatever, i usually feign ignorance to that anyways since it's a nonfactor to me

[fading dove]

it multiplies R by 0.5

[steep cobalt]

hm

eh fine enough

[surreal blaze]

better?

[surreal blaze]

lets goo

now, crucible of the cosmos, so time for the force grind

right nvm, didnt realise they needed divine geodes, guess its time to go do providence

[sonic trellis]

whats a good addon setup for a 2nd multiplayer play through of calamity? was thinking calamity, infernum, wrath of gods, hunt of old god?

[surreal blaze]

uhh no- i wouldnt recomend infernum or WOTG for your second playthrough-

infernum just isnt designed for MP

[fiery mango]

I wouldn’t recommend either for multiplayer

[sonic trellis]

yeah im literally saying that to my friend but hes a bit slow

we can do death mode

does death mode have added AI

[stoic ibex]

uhhh whadda hell is going on

[indigo spire]

the fog is coming

[stoic ibex]

what

WHAT

Everything went back to normal after walking into it

wotg is some wild shit man

[feral trellis]

beware of the fog

theres trees made of fog

so theyre called fog wood

get it

cuz they come from the fog

and theyre wood

[surreal blaze]

ok prov down NOW its force grinding time

[sonic trellis]

whats the current class ranking in terms of strength

[steep cobalt]

i'd have preferred mutant antibodies over pumpking's cape but you've defeated moon lord anyways so eh

[sonic trellis]

i just did melee

[steep cobalt]

summoner being the most ludicrous and unbridled in terms of offense

rogue trailing behind

melee just residing comfortably in the middle

[surreal blaze]

time to go back and do the stuff i forgor first (frost moon, martians, OOA and duke)

[wicked creek]

Well, based entirely on average kill times, on the best setups, we have Summoner, Rogue, Ranger, melee, and last mage, in base calamity

[steep cobalt]

ranger being, uh

consistent

[wicked creek]

No, ranger before melee

[steep cobalt]

and mage haplessly flails

[steep cobalt]

in terms of consistency

[wicked creek]

The difference is not that much, tbh

[wicked creek]

Even in terms of average kill times

[steep cobalt]

uhhhh

no i was just beginning a new sentence

is it really compulsory for me to add a comma to every of my sentences now?

anyways, in terms of tenacity

well i don't fucking know

warding is universally obscene

slap 7 of them onto your loadout and the margin of difference between menacing and warding is just negligible

[finite warren]

she glows

[steep cobalt]

glowlyn

[finite warren]

The whole Plague species hates me

[elder nebula]

what the fuck

[elder nebula]

[narrow coral]

🛜

[scarlet shadow]

i lowk wanna skip dragonfolly but with just stellar striker i'm probably cooked

nvm there we go

[surreal blaze]

Me when unicorn on a stick

[acoustic lava]

It's impossible!!! How your PC is not crashing

[finite warren]

idk

[surreal blaze]

manually crafting every force is SO fun /jk

[bitter marsh]

how can i get the armor reforge station in entropy?

[fast nacelle]

I BEAT SIGNUSSSSS

[ebon solar]

leviathan is impossible

opn legendary

istg

i gotta use teleprters

but they wont fucking work

[mighty mica]

how do I get past SCal's slideshow phase?

[grim swallow]

Does he get like a bigger hitbox or is he just fat hp wisr

[ebon solar]

nah hes the same

just like

600 contact dmg

💀

and idk how to dodge taht fucking charge can u even ram dash it

only way i know is via falling

so i am gonna use teleporters to keep falling

[fast nacelle]

signus trophy

[dense eagle]

the attack after the laser, when you see the lines which tells you from where the big explosion fire balls will come from, go that way while having space for the next ones to come

[ebon solar]

okay even that didnt fucking work

[dense eagle]

but try the option in the infernum config to reduce the effects

[mighty mica]

if this works

oh

there is

an anti-lag

option

the whole time

providence and exos would have been so much easier

[grim swallow]

You can use pogo stick to fall while he dashes and then go up while he shoots

[ebon solar]

yuh

[grim swallow]

Thats the strat for base levi

I genuinely dont think you can consistently ram him on tier

[bitter marsh]

Where?

[ebon solar]

im post golem

what can i get

[grim swallow]

Uhh dont think there os anything

By on tier i meant not with priv gear

Actually the plague armor has a ram

[bitter marsh]

Ty because I play a lot on my awful school laptop

[grim swallow]

That may be better than valor

[mighty mica]

apparently it won't help if you use summons

[bitter marsh]

What mod?

Like anahita and leviathan?

[ebon solar]

legendary infernum

[bitter marsh]

Bro 🥀

[ebon solar]

my teleporters wont work

they're meant to teleport as soon as i land

but dont work for no reason

[bitter marsh]

Idek what to say I beat that boss first try

[ebon solar]

yeah infernum is free normally

[bitter marsh]

If you're having trouble with levi maybe it's time for a journey mode playthrough

[ebon solar]

im on legendary buddy

[bitter marsh]

Still free asf

[ebon solar]

lmao

ragebait

you do it then

bro didnt beat levi first try

[bitter marsh]

Not only did I beat that boss first try but I've never died to it

It's literally the easiest calamity boss

[ebon solar]

because ur playing normal infernum

which is lightwork

try playing a hard playthrough sometime

[bitter marsh]

The only boss I've genuinely ever had trouble with in infernum is DoG

Most playthroughs I beat yharon before devourer tbh

[mighty mica]

DoG took me at least 30 tries and afterwards I beat yharon on my first

[ebon solar]

dog seems so free

never fought him doe

but he legit looks easier than as and destroyer

[bitter marsh]

If he did less damage he would be

But he's fast and contact damage 2 shots

[grim swallow]

The hardest part of infernum dog is p3 ptojectiles

Dog hinself is easy especially if you kill all bosses in order and fight od to kinda understand dash timings

[grim swallow]

Tbh there is a 90% chance you will wanna do dog pre prov and guaedians

Guardians are one of the most absurd infernum boss even in base, with master stats they were rasily one shotting me with certain attacks

And you're on ftw

[mighty mica]

I am missing two seeds

she wants me to fight mars before scal

honestly probably doable

[ebon solar]

oml bruih

i killed leviathan

and anahita diddled me

cuz i had no ram dash equipped

thinking i didnt need it for that fight

next attempt i got it

[fast nacelle]

@smoky dock is it against the rules to be fighting a boss in a area it isnt supposed to be in, such as polterghast in the underground jungle?

[ebon solar]

what rules

[fast nacelle]

no hit rules

[grim swallow]

Im not a no hit man but I think unless the arena is gigantic there shouldn't be a problem

[fast nacelle]

good

cuz i really dont wanna ruin my redone archives

[grim swallow]

Again I'm not a no hit man do dont quote me on that if you get dqed

[fast nacelle]

theres no way i actually no hit polterghast for me to have the chance to not know if id get dqd

[grim swallow]

Why are you asking then

[visual swan]

Can't seem to open the downloads mod thing

is it just me?

[oak jackal]

can i add mods like wrath of gods or infernum to a playthrough that is past moonlord? or is a whole new playtrough needed

[mighty mica]

Infernum has several essential worldgen features

[steep cobalt]

wrath of the gods has content prior to moon lord

[oak jackal]

so theres questlines and stuff that has to be done earlier?

[steep cobalt]

so it'd be reckless of you to include it now

yes

[patent girder]

best not to add mid playthru sorry man

[steep cobalt]

and there's an entire structure integral to the questline as well

[oak jackal]

alr then, will the playtroughs be a lot different, or will it just feel like a few new bosses has ben added?

[nimble wing]

Forget that, WotG has worldgen

[patent girder]

infernum is very different

[nimble wing]

That automatically necessitates having it on at worldgen

[patent girder]

feels brand new imo

[steep cobalt]

hi there mr lynel

[nimble wing]

Hey buddy

[mighty mica]

hi guys

[oak jackal]

alr thats good, is there any other addons i should add to that playtrough to make it more fun

[steep cobalt]

hi there triploon

[patent girder]

meow ill say hi too

[steep cobalt]

meow

[mighty mica]

suffering through infernum scal rn

[patent girder]

good emote

[mighty mica]

thamk you

[steep cobalt]

[mighty mica]

solyn just made me fight mars before i beat scal

[patent girder]

i think youre good, maybe catalyst mod for a new boss pre moonlord

and also has whips if you go summoner

[nimble wing]

Infernum completely reworks every boss in the game (plus the majority of minibosses), completely replaces Calclone, attaches Great Sand Shark to a new post-Cultist boss, and completely reworks the entire* Abyss
Wrath of the Gods is The fog is coming.

[mighty mica]

spoiler!!!

they're not supposed to know about The Fog Is Coming

[nimble wing]

Eh it doesn’t mean much without context

[mighty mica]

it means

the fog is coming

[patent girder]

[nimble wing]

https://tenor.com/view/fog-fog-horn-spongebob-the-fog-scary-gif-25590686

[patent girder]

[steep cobalt]

fake wisdom

[patent girder]

my wisdom is still wise

[oak jackal]

alr then, thx for the help

[mighty mica]

my wisdum is still wires

[steep cobalt]

[atomic star]

died on polterghasts last attack of the desperation phase

might as well just uninstall the game

[mighty mica]

when you reinstall the game later, try bringing a brimstone crescent staff

[atomic star]

oh yeha i forgot about that

im sure ill be fine without it

💯

[mighty mica]

I wasn't

[maiden fjord]

try not using brimstone crescent like a based man

[mighty mica]

[maiden fjord]

or use it. you do you.

[mighty mica]

use it if you want to use it

[atomic star]

yeah i beat him rn

her actually

[maiden fjord]

congrats

[atomic star]

forgot polterghast is a she

im on for the worthy cause i felt bored but

only thing changed is the boss health

and her leg one shots you

and one attack in the last phase deals like 800 base damage so with a glass build also one shots you

but thats about it i THINK

it definetly felt harder probably cause it was longer because of the health of the boss being higher

now its devourer of gods time....

his main attack definetly one shots any build 😭

so one mistake and its over

[maiden fjord]

now I feel like using coil strat on dog phase 2 is even riskier than the first phase because they chomp my ass faster than speeding bullet

[wicked creek]

I think they'd use they/them if anything?

They're literally a conglomerate of souls

[atomic star]

true

but a lot of people call polteghast a she

maybe cause of plantera

[wicked creek]

Is "a lot of people" Yardis

[atomic star]

it definetly is a lot of people 😭

[wicked creek]

Is it Yardis and his chat

[maiden fjord]

either does ramming in general. the timing is really tight. also I'm skipping old duke cuz fuck old duke that boss is so ass I can't even put it in "ass" tier
not even infernum can gain enough reputation for them alone

[atomic star]

holy fucking shit

ftw dog has 3 million health

this MIGHT be difficult

i MIGHT need my omega blue armor

GOOD LORD

THE LASERS ARE BUFFED TOO

[wicked creek]

I mean, the longer the fight lasts, the more the utility of Regen and defense from other armors increases

Of course, omega blue would still be a great choice

[atomic star]

true

but also it shortens the fight cause it does better dps

anyways the lasers uhh

deal a lot of fucking damage

i shoudlve figured since theyre in base calamity too

so they would definetly be buffed in ftw

gonna have to baisically a no hit ✌️ 😭

ive no hit him before so i guess i should be able to do it considering i can tank one hit before death from the lasers + the brain of confusion

its just gonna be about being able to do the pattern consistenly

[maiden fjord]

also I need to position myself more precisely whenever they go horizontally or vertically
I line myself up vertically and hit the dead end and there's absolutely no way to change position

I tried to position myself below the position where they'll appear out of the portal but I'm having a hard time on that right now

[atomic star]

what i do is i see where the portal is

and after i see where it is i dash away from it

realising where it is and then where you need to dash in order not to dash into it takes enough time

so if i dash even away from the portal i dont get hit (by dog contact damage)

make sure to use the providence ram dash accessory too

[pulsar ether]

how do i fix this issue?

[mental isle]

#multiplayer-looking-to-play message

@buoyant sail dont use overhaul

[pulsar ether]

so does anyone know how to fix that or what it even is?

[mental isle]

seems like daybreak updated

and wotg doesnt support the new update

[pulsar ether]

so what would i need to do to fix this?

[mighty mica]

update wotg

pretty sure latest is 1.2.26

[mental isle]

go to a lower daybreak version idk if daybreak has a github

[surreal blaze]

all i got left to have all the forces (minus cosmos) is sulphur enchant and a single ladybug.

[mental isle]

it probably does

[surreal blaze]

cant seem to get them to spawn

got the ladybugs

just need to trigger an acif rain but cos ive ignored i thtis entire time ive got no scales n cant craft a caustic tear

[pulsar ether]

im pretty sure it should be updated

[pulsar ether]

ill have to ask the server owner to do that

[pulsar ether]

oh ty

[steep cobalt]

tomat

[atomic star]

holy fucking shit melee with omega armor and 5 polterghast summons does so much fucking damage 😭

i saw my dps meter hit a peak of like 120k with rage and adrenaline

[steep cobalt]

welcome to hybrid

[atomic star]

on dog

[atomic star]

i thought it was gonna be hard to deal 3 million damage but somehow the hybrid build is just too overpowered

[grim swallow]

Why is brimflame armor set bonus so cracked

[atomic star]

i cant imagine this on regular infernum dog

[grim swallow]

Genuinely a top 3 set bonus in calamity

(brimflame with set bonus had more mage dps than gaia offensive, brimflame without it has as much dps as defensive gaia)

[atomic star]

okay this is so weird

ftw infernum dog head deals the same damage

but his bodyd eals like

twice as much

his body one shots and his head doesnt 😭

okay nvm its just melee that does this amout of damage

deaths ascension is so overpowered holy shit

im gonna go with bloodflare armor i lowkey wanted the fight to be longer than usual because of his health but apperantely melee does not give afuck 😭

[dusty cobalt]

Xdx

[jovial tide]

@smoky dock, sorry for pinging
remember me? i also found some interesting data about my problem

i'd want to hear your theories

[smoky dock]

Go for it, what’s up?

[jovial tide]

i replied to my own message

well, basically:

i recently ereased all the terraria and tmodloader data, to see will the problem get fixed

and it did, somehow

and thats why i noticed that most of events also stopped happening

there were no more natural acid rain, slime rain

most of bosses also didnt spawn naturally, such as 'you feel an evil presense watch you'

my theory is that some recent update completely broke infernum configs

[steep cobalt]

just verify the integrity of your files

[jovial tide]

thats what i did

and everything got fixed

[steep cobalt]

hm

[jovial tide]

but ive still no idea what caused this stuff to happen

basically, most of stuff that happens only once per playthrough, completely stopped happening

its like... game thinks it already has happened, and just skips this part

but ive no idea how, why and what i did

another interesting problem, is that if i SPEEDRUN through the game with endgame character, this stuff still appears

but when i do it myself, something stops these things from happening again

@smoky dock any ideas?

[smoky dock]

Did you have any mods installed beyond Infernum and prerequisites?

[jovial tide]

last time i played it with the main mods, alchemist npc, fargos npcs, recipe browser, zoom out, magic storage and ore mining stuff

nothing unverified

i disabled everything i had, including all the boss checklist things

[smoky dock]

I say because by deleting everything you might’ve wiped your configs. Default configs for some mod might’ve disabled events

[jovial tide]

yeah thats what i thought

but why speedrunning through the game still allows these events to happen

i still dont understand that

this is really weird

i mean, the problem is fixed now and im not complaining

but uhhhh

[smoky dock]

Sometimes events are scripted to happen

For exampleeeeee… entering the Sulfurous Sea after defeating Eye of Cthulhu for the first time forces Acid Rain

[jovial tide]

thats what i mean by natural acid rain appearance

it didnt do that

i had to wait till it appears each morning

or... go without it

[fading dove]

it used to be 1.4x

[jovial tide]

as i told, i think this is some kind of update, that did that to my game files

i didnt reinstall this game since last year

maybe some files just broke

thats the only theory that comes to my mind

i think the only way to check it out was to data mine through my old files

and manually find the problem

but i already reinstalled the game and ereased all the configs

so i guess this problem will never be solved

we just pray it never happens again

https://tenor.com/view/cat-orange-cat-stare-cute-gif-3082793379085604256

[mental isle]

thats low for dog

ive been ranger and done like 100k dps pre adren

[ember verge]

i just found out terraria has auto trash feature
.....by all my nameless deity loot getting thrown into my trash slot within the moment of it touching my character

why is this a thing 😭

[snow sun]

Idk

[ember verge]

had to look this up to learn it exists cause it doesnt show up in a world and only in the main menu

had me fighting for my life and i gotta do it over again now 😭

[snow sun]

Ok

[ember verge]

welp im gonna go do that now wish me luck

[snow sun]

Luck

[smoky dock]

👎

[jovial tide]

so uhhh

any specific ideas

[smoky dock]

none

[jovial tide]

what might have caused it?

[smoky dock]

I've got no idea

[fast nacelle]

I sentence you to signus sentries only

[smoky dock]

Computers are weird and modding is :///

[smoky dock]

BOOHOO

[jovial tide]

i mean

if i want to report a bug

i need to tell how to cause it

and what do i say here?

[tawdry violet]

good for mutant?

[smoky dock]

I'm not certain if it is a bug at all

[tawdry violet]

also what weapons and active skills are best?

[jovial tide]

bug is unexpected behavior

no any unique events is NOT an expected behavior

as for me

[smoky dock]

I have no clues

[celest kestrel]

What is minimum survivability to tank blood moon fishing enemies?

[jovial tide]

same as me

i struggled to find any way it could have happened

all i know is it happened somewhere on my second playthrough

which is 15-25 september

[smoky dock]

It's kinda moot
You can build structures which can completely cuck every phm fishing enemy, making them completely unable to hurt you

As for hardmode only Bleels and Dreadnut can hurt you since they can go through walls

As for tanking enemies, the only ones you need to tank are those two I mentioned

The less survivability you use the better, since that means more investment in fishing. Soooo... I'd suggest just rollin' with Warding, Bast, Campfire, Heart Lantern, similar... and then just using minions and sentries to kill them quickly rather than tanking them

[celest kestrel]

thanks

[smoky dock]

Alternatively you can use a Sonar potion to just not fish up enemies you don't want to deal with

[celest kestrel]

am farming blood moon enemies

[coarse ibex]

what accessory is this

[fading dove]

calamity

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Calamity

[coarse ibex]

thanks

[fading dove]

its like alright i guess

the damage is nice if you can keep your cursor glued to your target

[coarse ibex]

and this

[cedar laurel]

Betsy dash

[fading dove]

dark sun ring

[coarse ibex]

thanks

[tawdry violet]

it also kills your frames

[trim vector]

how do i fix the bug where my storage only shows weapons and equps and no blocks or other materials? Tried relogging but dnt work. Donth ave any filter on

[thin canyon]

the filter

you're having filter non stackable filter on

third line

[trim vector]

ahhhhh

dnt know that was a seperate line

thnaks

thought it w as the same as the one above

[celest kestrel]

fuckijng finally

[night rain]

i found smth really good for no weapons

aka main rule is i cant use weapons to attack, only accesorys such as enchants and other stuff

kamikaze staff from fargos has a right click that is harmless and normally to activate minion

but it counts as weapon for cactus+boreal wood

effectivly giving a budget sword

[smoky dock]

weaponless can use bombs to beat Deerclops and then you have Bone Helm

[cobalt pelican]

hi

im this guy @lunar halo with a new acc (i mailed staff for kicking of that account)

i cant leave the server meself cus deleted the account already

[night rain]

by weaponless i will include bombs

the only "attacking" allowed is if smth is normally harmless but can have acessorys used

for this version i allow luxors gift but only the little dagger minion, no other summons

setup i used for trojan

the luxors dagger summoned from wulfrum controller shredded bc it goes through all 3 partas

im using thorium, calamity and fargos

as well as addons including catalyst and goozma

ok it comes at a tradeoff

it gets rid of luxor dagger when u right click with kamakazi

wulfrum controller gets a right click as well but it dont remove dagger

[night fractal]

bombs imo would count as a weapon but have fun

what you should try is unstable Granite Core / fungal clump with rogue stealth armor

Crab can be easily killed with just lava in basecal iirc, idk about with the addons though

[candid topaz]

thinking of starting a infernum playthrough, just finished melee death and had lots of fun. Am divided between mage, ranger and rogue, and since player feedback is always reliable, what do you guys think about those classes? all 3 really look cool, cant decide

ranger is soo full of references like weapons from other games i played, but all opinions i saw on it say the class is not properly developed

[cobalt pelican]

MAGE

MAGE

[candid topaz]

PLEASE DO ELABORATE

im all ears

[cobalt pelican]

i say mage because

[smoky dock]

i totally forgor about ugc

[cobalt pelican]

imo its the most fun class

[candid topaz]

[cobalt pelican]

has less damage than other classes especially cus of mana thing debuff

but i have so much fun playing through with mage

[smoky dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893924166925955104/1268262256693612554/trueMeleeLocket.gif

[cobalt pelican]

if you dont want mage

go rogue

also pretty fun

[smoky dock]

mage is balanced around it

[candid topaz]

why do you hate me

[smoky dock]

imo all the classes are very similar, except that summoner is like, better

[cobalt pelican]

idec about the mana sickness tbh

[cobalt pelican]

yeah

[smoky dock]

Obviously you have standout weapons that’re unusually strong

But everybody has them

[cobalt pelican]

mage can be really strong on certain stuff like infernum devourer and infernum's eye of madness and illusioners reverie weapons at the end game

mostly average whole game tho

[candid topaz]

rogue looks inticing, the variety of weapons is nice

[cobalt pelican]

it is nice

if you dont want mage go rogue

can be tricky tho

[smoky dock]

true melee pls 🥺

[candid topaz]

wdym by that

[cobalt pelican]

focusing on stealth and dodging at once might end up kind of tricky

[smoky dock]

it’s my favorite clara

0:39 guards

[candid topaz]

i dont have enough skill to true melee yet

[cobalt pelican]

just as good or maybe a bit worse among all classes

[candid topaz]

[cobalt pelican]

id go mage or rogue

first choice is mage tho for me yeah?

[candid topaz]

[cobalt pelican]

rogue has stealth which is an amazing mechanic but can get tricky sometimes with infernum, from my own experience

i struggled on a few bosses while focusing on stealth and the boss at once

[smoky dock]

if you use stealth rogue you need to have basic research skills to be able to figure out how best to use it, because imo it’s very unintuitive and it suffers a lot if you use it wrong

[candid topaz]

was about to bring that up

[cobalt pelican]

yes

[smoky dock]

Using it right? Fuckin’ killer. Stealth rogue is incredibly strong

[cobalt pelican]

omg yes

[candid topaz]

i HEARD stealth managment gets better later on

[cobalt pelican]

it does

i think

[smoky dock]

it isn’t rocket science at all imo

Your stealth generation is mostly consistent and you can get into a rhythm of attacking

[cobalt pelican]

yeah

[smoky dock]

Eventually you won’t need to think about stealth at all. You just get a feel for how long it takes to go from 50% to 100%

Plus you have a sound cue and a color flash to indicate it

[cobalt pelican]

my first time with rogue i struggled with that when i used stealth against a couple of bosses like dragonfolly even tho i 2 tried his ass

ohyeah you do have a sound clue

[candid topaz]

remember when folly was bubmblebird?

[cobalt pelican]

i wasnt around in calamity back then unfortunately

[candid topaz]

a

[smoky dock]

stealth is debatably the second best right now because over half the weapons considered “extremely problematic to the game’s overall balance” are stealth weapons

[cobalt pelican]

i started playing ts last year summer

[smoky dock]

The best right now is summomer because AAAGGHHH WHIP

[cobalt pelican]

summoner is insane

genuinely insane

[candid topaz]

so rogue tends to melt bosses?

[cobalt pelican]

summoner tends to more melt bosses

but rogue can too

[smoky dock]

Yeah

[cobalt pelican]

with stealth

even more

[smoky dock]

If you use it right

[cobalt pelican]

yeah

[smoky dock]

Using it wrong is:
Very easy
Very punishing

[candid topaz]

SO theres rogue AND stealth rogue as a "sublclass"?

[smoky dock]

So it’ll take some getting used to

[cobalt pelican]

i remember pretty much melting providence and guardians with the elemental disk without stealth tho; its amazing

[smoky dock]

Yeppers

[cobalt pelican]

nah stealth rogue is more like a way to use it in my eyes

a way to use the class in my eyes

like a different technic

imo

[candid topaz]

like melee and true melee?

[smoky dock]

Yeah

[cobalt pelican]

true melee is closer to subclass no?

[smoky dock]

Not necessarily

[candid topaz]

idk never used it

[cobalt pelican]

i dont want to ever do a tmelee inf

[smoky dock]

Some fake melee weapons are stronger in true melee range

[candid topaz]

i used the holly collider once

[smoky dock]

Most infamously, Cosmic Discharge

[cobalt pelican]

holy collider is amazing tho

i did that too

[smoky dock]

Entropic Claymore

[candid topaz]

on ceassless void

[cobalt pelican]

holy collider works like a dream on void

[smoky dock]

Most melee weapons actually

[smoky dock]

(it’s far from meta)

[cobalt pelican]

its a fun weapon

[smoky dock]

also if you ever want to play true melee AT ALL, do it on Infernum

[cobalt pelican]

ik but its fun and loud

[candid topaz]

why so

[smoky dock]

basecal true melee is CIA advanced interrogation

[cobalt pelican]

i love fun and loud weapons

[candid topaz]

THIS

[smoky dock]

Boss AI is typically very aggressive on Infernum which makes it very easy to get within range

[idle stump]

is viscera the best life steal weapon for scal mage?

[candid topaz]

the more fps eaten

the better

[cobalt pelican]

do you like colorful weapons too

[smoky dock]

All magic weapons have lifesteal on SCal, it’s a feature of Auric Tesla

[cobalt pelican]

go mage cus it has some loud stuff

[idle stump]

ok i was thinking that too

[smoky dock]

this is why I like gilded proboscis avtually

[cobalt pelican]

it just constantly does some weird loud noise

i love it

[idle stump]

just saw myra using it in a vid ngl

[candid topaz]

[smoky dock]

Gilded Proboscis has three times fewer i-frames than normal, and Providence/Guards’ hitsounds are very loud

Something about the sound and the vibe of Proboscis Providence is sooooooo… mmmm

[candid topaz]

final question, about 'variety' in weapons, what would yall say it wins between mage and rogue? i love to weapon cycle on bosses

[cobalt pelican]

off the top of my head i can give you that one weapon with a flower shot that explodes on impact and after a while into homing small yellow pieces pre cal clone

and eye of madness

[smoky dock]

Magic wins

[cobalt pelican]

id say so

[smoky dock]

Mage weapons tend to have weird and diverse behavior and effects

And using most weapons will eat your stealth!

[cobalt pelican]

rogue has a bunch of just throw boomerangy and speary weapons

[smoky dock]

So if you try weapon switching with rogue…

It won’t work well.

[cobalt pelican]

eyah

mage will tho

[candid topaz]

AWN SHUCKS

[smoky dock]

Unless you’re spamming, in which case uninstall the video game

[candid topaz]

so mage it is!

[smoky dock]

because you’re playing it wrong!

BUT listen to this

[candid topaz]

[smoky dock]

The best class. Is to not adhere to a class at all.

[candid topaz]

THATS NO FUN

[idle stump]

like how im using dragon rage on spelucher

instakills lol

[candid topaz]

for me, obviouly

[smoky dock]

Switch frequently based on whatever’s most accessible/most powerful/most appealing

[cobalt pelican]

js go mage for the loudness (id say bro, just dont care about mana sickness for the most fun cus i dont and i can still do more than enough enough damage to bosses)

[smoky dock]

And yeah, like mentioned, Dragon Rage, Exoblade and Celestus are meta for Sepulcher regardless of class

[candid topaz]

that dang worm

[cobalt pelican]

i did use dragon rage on sepulcher too, in base cal

[smoky dock]

Nothing beats them, even in the worst possible case scenario of -30% melee or rogue damage

[cobalt pelican]

eye of madness works so well on sepulcher as well

and its range is long

[smoky dock]

(i think worst possible melee damage is -40% 0.4x

[idle stump]

would you say exo mechs or scal first

[candid topaz]

exo

[smoky dock]

I religiously do SCal first because hooooly shit I love enchantments

[cobalt pelican]

id say exos but they annoy me so i usually go scal first

[idle stump]

ive always done scal first

[candid topaz]

scal is a ritual of passage

[idle stump]

yeah scal is the real final boss

exo mechs are end game

[cobalt pelican]

exos annoy me so fucking much and i usually skip them but id say exos come before scal

[candid topaz]

all the game long you work to that boss fight to end all boss fights

[idle stump]

exo mechs are fun imo

[candid topaz]

without wotg, that is

[cobalt pelican]

its fun until it isnt (when the twins ripoffs pull up on infernum)

[cobalt pelican]

i never even see what wotg does to them

what does it do

[candid topaz]

nothing to them

but has content past scal

so it wouldnt matter anyway wich comes 1st

[cobalt pelican]

yeh

[candid topaz]

THAT is if you like playing with cinematicity and stuff

[cobalt pelican]

oh yeah

i havent tried the updated wotg

i was taking a break from terraria when the update came

[candid topaz]

imagine no sun

[cobalt pelican]

i forgor the new boss' name bro

what was it

[candid topaz]

nameless deity?

[cobalt pelican]

not the las tboss

the new wotg oss

boss

[fading dove]

there's two

[cobalt pelican]

replacing eggxus

[fading dove]

mars and avatar of emptiness

[cobalt pelican]

oh theres 2 new??

MARS?????? i didnt even know him

i just knew avarat of emptiness

[candid topaz]

theres a whole questline for avatar

hehe

[cobalt pelican]

i so want to start a new playthrough andfinish it so quickly for this

[smoky dock]

XB-00 Mars, right?

[cobalt pelican]

but im so lazy for it

i hate early game until skelli

[candid topaz]

this.

[cobalt pelican]

and early hm until end of mech bosses

[candid topaz]

use magic builder for houses

[cobalt pelican]

me too

[smoky dock]

why would i do that

[cobalt pelican]

i would cus im lazy

[smoky dock]

i cant build Optimal houses with mods…

[candid topaz]

IF you dont like shoebox

[cobalt pelican]

i just want to

[candid topaz]

hehe

[cobalt pelican]

i just want to go fast

[smoky dock]

Shoeboxes aren’t optimal either

[cobalt pelican]

kill bosses and reach the fun part

and stop going fast