ah okay so I'm not insane
#calamity-addon-talk
narrow coral
aren't we all 
ebon solar
planteras vines keep diddling me
final phase
grim swallow
Rod of discord
ebon solar
the 2nd phase ones are free dmg
scenic sierra
bloodflare or intergelactic armor?
grim swallow
Wait your on ftw yeah?
ebon solar
Yuh
grim swallow
Okay yeah
ebon solar
plantera big af
smoky dock
bloodflare or intergelactic armor?
It depends on class and weapon choice, but most want Bloodflare
ebon solar
hard to circle her
grim swallow
Because if you were on gfb rod wouldn't have been good
grim swallow
It depends on class and weapon choice, but most want Bloodflare
Ranger has more dps with gelactic
ebon solar
y
grim swallow
Dont know about others
ebon solar
you mean gfb?
scenic sierra
It depends on class and weapon choice, but most want Bloodflare
whats the best melee weapon for dog
queen isle
m
smoky dock
whats the best melee weapon for dog
Everyone's different
I prefer Lion heart
grim swallow
you mean gfb?
Yuh
ebon solar
whats the best melee weapon for dog
inferna cutter trust
stoic ibex
where the flip is the shimmer at
ebon solar
why is rod bad
smoky dock
I'm killing you
ebon solar
on gfb plantera
ebon solar
LOL
smoky dock
on gfb plantera
gfb... rod... mmmmm
fast nacelle
how good is profaned soul artifact purely for damage
smoky dock
where the flip is the shimmer at
The shimmer can generate in a box in about that area
smoky dock
There's a visual on where it can spawn pinned in #help-advice-read-pins I think
smoky dock
what's infernum boss rush like
boss rush. but infernum. you jokester?
queen isle
they should kill boss rush
ebon solar
idk what regular boss rush is like
scenic sierra
inferna cutter trust
any ranged options?
stoic ibex
The shimmer can generate in a box in about that area
thanks
queen isle
bad
ebon solar
does it buff the bosses
scenic sierra
or is true melee just way better
ebon solar
to be on tier
queen isle
they have exorbitant amounts of hp and malice ai
smoky dock
or is true melee just way better
queen isle
it's such a useless addition to the game
smoky dock
Experiment with different weapons to see what you like the most
ebon solar
what's malice ai
narrow coral
they get faster i think
smoky dock
what's malice ai
narrow coral
bootleg hyper mode 😂
grim swallow
Guys what speed do yall think inf dog gets impossible at (from mutant hyper mod)
ebon solar
do lid human infernum legendary 1 hp hardcore
smoky dock
do lid human infernum legendary 1 hp hardcore
i transmute kevin and build an invincibility machine
ebon solar
do lid human infernum legendary 1 hp hardcore
if someone beats this I'll give them all my savings
narrow coral
Guys what speed do yall think inf dog gets impossible at (from mutant hyper mod)
with or without coiling
grim swallow
Without
narrow coral
probably anything past 2x
fading dove
do lid human infernum legendary 1 hp hardcore
easier than sata
narrow coral
ture..
queen isle
https://tenor.com/view/funny-breaking-bad-gif-24053877
give me fifteen minutes
waxen tide
Im waiting.
narrow coral
15
scenic sierra
is there a quicker way to get bloodstone than just grinding crag enemies
waxen tide
kill ravager
ebon solar
ravager
waxen tide
and open necromatic geode
scenic sierra
ah right'
narrow coral
meatmetal sans
ebon solar
easier than sata
no
fading dove
then YOU beat sata
grim swallow
The people who made ravager despise me
I deadass havent even been to abyss for scoria this run
But I killed 6 ravagers
fading dove
then you beat lid human infernum 1 hp hardcore
little difficulty for baby is not worth my time
fading dove
i'll do more productive things like slamming my head against a cinder block wall
ebon solar
I just forgot to record
fading dove
if you didn't follow the rules then you didn't clear it
narrow coral
with your arms cut off too!?!?
narrow coral
god gamer
smoky dock
i cast transmutation
small monolith
Hey, I was looking to add more to my playthrough, what addons are nice/non intrusive additions? I have infernum, but one thing I was curious on was a mod like apotheosis and friends but it seems to add a lot more than I actually wanted
fading dove
transmutation and guide achievement are fixed in sata
ebon solar
Hey, I was looking to add more to my playthrough, what addons are nice/non intru...
wotg
wrath of the gods
fading dove
the bugs arent removed you just instantly die if you try to do them
smoky dock
Hey, I was looking to add more to my playthrough, what addons are nice/non intru...
Catalyst is fairly splashable and robust
Calamity Vanites is a personal favorite. Just fun cosmetics... and inexplicably strong hooks, but just ignore the hooks.
ebon solar
me when I never wear vanity because I have other useful items I swap to in my vanity slots
😞
small monolith
Catalyst is fairly splashable and robust
Not sure what you mean by splashable
narrow coral
it can be splashed 
summer karma
currently post wof what is the best rogue gear?
waxen tide
titan armor
summer karma
titan armor
titan heart?
waxen tide
titan heart armor
ebon solar
currently post wof what is the best rogue gear?
idk you can get ichor spear now thoigh
smoky dock
Not sure what you mean by splashable
You can put it into any loadout and it works
ebon solar
from ichor stickers
summer karma
is it a good rogue weapon?
smoky dock
currently post wof what is the best rogue gear?
Spam can use mollusk or Statigel
Stealth can use Titan heart or Statigel
ebon solar
yeah it applies ichor
summer karma
ok
ebon solar
and u can stack that with flask of crumbling
summer karma
is 20 attempts for wof good or average or bad?
ebon solar
It also does piercing damage
ebon solar
So it's good for worms probably
narrow coral
is 20 attempts for wof good or average or bad?
too low!!
stoic ibex
so something like this?
summer karma
it will be helfpful during destroyer
fast nacelle
providence and profaned guardians trophy done
smoky dock
Yeah that's fine
fast nacelle
i really like this one
small monolith
so something like this?
https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Guide:Class_setups
I like this site, it's obv not the most perfect, but it's a great baseline that gets you through
fast nacelle
its better to ask pros
for more specific situations
byeah wiki is a good baseline
smoky dock
ah right the valhalla armor
i totally forgor lmao
small monolith
Obv, but it's easier for them to check out that site then ask for every single boss
smoky dock
ultimaately though you really should just experiment and try out
You'll never know why something is good if you never use it
stoic ibex
aight im ready
smoky dock
You'll never know if something is good if you don't use it either... nothing's stopping someone who's trolling or inexperienced from giving you totally bogus advice
queen isle
phasesaber is the best weapon in the game
smoky dock
exactly
queen isle
what's that supposed to mean
small monolith
The best way to play, is to go to the wiki, go to weapons, and make every single one that you can and fight every boss with them until one works/feels better to you 
smoky dock
🎉
queen isle
Im waiting.
narrow coral
gotem!!
waxen tide
guh
grim swallow
https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Guide:Class_setups
I like this site, it's obv ...
Is brimflame the armor thays viable for longest according to this
waxen tide
grim swallow
Its post cal clone and viable for cuktist as the guide says
queen isle
i love eating sand
grim swallow
Which I agree with
waxen tide
brimflame is like
stoic ibex
im sorry
w h a t
waxen tide
the strongest damage option until like astral or even after
grim swallow
True
summer karma
how can i mine the astral monolith?
grim swallow
Adrenaline 🔥
glacial wave
what weapon against king slime as a mage?
gloomy wedge
what weapon against king slime as a mage?
Demon Scythe
gloomy wedge
best mount for dog?
Witch’s Broom, but only for the lasers
scenic sierra
thanks
gloomy wedge
Don’t even TRY to use a mount in other sections
scenic sierra
yeah i've beat dog before but this is my first time in over a year
and im doing melee instead of summoner
small monolith
best mount for dog?
Install mount and journey and use their ML mount :D
scenic sierra
nah
i was using cosmic car key before but the acceleration was too slow
holy FUCK deaths ascension right click melts him
30k dps
got him down to 20% and messed up my dashes
fast nacelle
no hit storm weaver
scenic sierra
nice
seems balanced enough to me
is purple haze, rum and moonshine fine or should i change my alcohols
smoky dock
Yeha that's fine for the most part
I don't know what Rum does compared to Caribbean Rum... the latter might just be a straight upgrade, though
Do note that Caribbean Rum has an incorrect description and it doesn't actually boost flight time. Additionally the floatiness has some jank involved
scenic sierra
slammed
that went much better than my last infernum run
20 atts or something compared to 200
lol
melee is op
or i just got good
ebon solar
melee is op
smoky dock
whar
scenic sierra
really needed one of those
smoky dock
that's humungous
scenic sierra
that's humungous
i've seen bigger
smoky dock
And they're even MORE humungous
scenic sierra
dang that thing is HUGE
smoky dock
✨ It approaches ✨
scenic sierra
last time i played wog noxus was still in the game
i've seen clips of the replacement though
its really cool
cooler than deity
i never ended up killing deity i got him to like 20%
too hard
that was in a mage run though
eternity is pretty strong but im pretty sure its pretty weak compared to other end game classes
right...?
vital mulch
endgame mage actually holds up well with the others
you can use sylvestaff or rainbow party cannon instead of eternity for more dps
scenic sierra
i just used eternity so i didnt have to worry about aiming whilst my screen was covered in complete chaos
god i miss my terraria music
but this damn rift has to ruin it
smoky dock
endgame mage actually holds up well with the others
endgame mage has oblatory so it's instantly better
but it doesn't really matter because holy woah Demonshade is busted
nimble wing
dang that thing is HUGE
The fog is coming.
steep whale
summoner is so broken that their endgame class armor is best in slot for every other class too
narrow coral
where sponge
narrow coral
that or the yellow thing
nimble wing
summoner is so broken that their endgame class armor is best in slot for every o...
demonshade is a class armor only to the extent that it doesn't give stealth
steep whale
absorber doesnt even work in infernum
nimble wing
huh?
steep whale
because basically no bosses have debuffs
scenic sierra
fair
narrow coral
:clue:
scenic sierra
what melee weapon for yharon
steep whale
scythe
scenic sierra
deaths ascension or what
steep whale
yeah that one
nimble wing
because basically no bosses have debuffs
did you mean to say ampoule
scenic sierra
oh what about chalice over ampoule
elder nebula
yes
scenic sierra
so goated
steep whale
did you mean to say ampoule
i think they both work off debuffs dont they?
nimble wing
chalice shows its real strength in base, again because of debuffs, but it sure isn't a bad idea
steep whale
oh wait no absorber is that one random healing potion accessory
narrow coral
ya
scenic sierra
chalice shows its real strength in base, again because of debuffs, but it sure i...
how because of debuffs
steep whale
yeah ampoule is the one that doesnt really work in infernum
oh yeah also you should run chalice as soon as you can its really good
nimble wing
how because of debuffs
chalice converting hit damage to a gradual loss lets regen work during that loss, and the major cal regen accessories get super strong when you're debuffed
steep whale
the regen ones dont work when you debuff yourself i thought
or they only partially work
scenic sierra
the max hp and potion cooldown are good enough on its own for me to use it
nimble wing
it's also just good anyway i think
steep whale
whats that one defensive accessory nobody uses even though its really OP
scenic sierra
i skipped old duke hes just boring and annoying with rubbish drops
steep whale
bloodflare core?
nimble wing
whats that one defensive accessory nobody uses even though its really OP
oh i don't know All Of Them
idk if bloodflare core is actually very strong or anything, but it's one of my personal favorites
scenic sierra
whats that one defensive accessory nobody uses even though its really OP
what does it do
oh THAT one
steep whale
what does it do
the one that basically heals back half of every hit you take
through defense damage
nimble wing
oh yeah that's bloodflare core
nimble wing
it makes defense regen also regen health at an equal rate
scarlet shadow
i remember using it like back in 1.3 tmod
steep whale
over sealocket or smth
sealocket and sponge have anti synergy
scarlet shadow
was pretty strong but i think they changed smth
scenic sierra
i remember using it like back in 1.3 tmod
same i'm pretty sure i used it
scenic sierra
sealocket and sponge have anti synergy
so remove sealocket for core?
or badge of bravery ig
scarlet shadow
either way i'll check it out on my tmelee playthrough when i get to its stage
glacial wave
Demon Scythe
u know another weapon i dont wanna farm that
scarlet shadow
or badge of bravery ig
send a pic of your setup rq
nimble wing
btw are any of these actually worth it
very worth it
scenic sierra
how worth it
scarlet shadow
yeah i'd certainly get smth over the sealocket
nimble wing
cinnamon rollyn is stronger than vanilla exquisitely stuffed (because wotg follows vanilla standards!) and some of those books give you a ton of them
scenic sierra
cinnamon rollyn is stronger than vanilla exquisitely stuffed (because wotg follo...
yeah i already got enough of them
nimble wing
starlit forge, though it comes really late, can craft cinnamon rollyns from nothing
scarlet shadow
either Bloodflare Core or Chalice of the Blood God
steep whale
so remove sealocket for core?
i think i used dark sun ring, wings, elemental gauntlet, ram dash, sponge, chalice, and community
scarlet shadow
oh nvm i see the chalice now
nimble wing
starblessed platforms and dreamcatcher are self-explanatory
scarlet shadow
replace Affliction with Absorber btw
smoky dock
DSR is funny
scarlet shadow
holy m*lticlasser
scenic sierra
sea stars?
scenic sierra
oh yeah wont that pair really well with bloodflare core then
yeah wtf is a sea star though
smoky dock
Yes
smoky dock
yeah wtf is a sea star though
Brittle Stars
steep whale
brittle sea star staff
smoky dock
silly little mens that give 5 DEF each
steep whale
each star gives 5 defense if theyre on orbiting mode
scenic sierra
that gives def?????????
smoky dock
Yes, if you set them to defend
steep whale
yeah i would use my setup but replace community with bloodflare core if you want more survivability
scarlet shadow
replace community with copper shackle at this point
steep whale
community is good though
didnt we do the math and its just a straight upgrade to absorber in almost every way at around poltergeist?
smoky dock
what
steep whale
more damage, more def, more damage reduction
smoky dock
absorber does more than give damage, defense, and DR
steep whale
yeah so does community
scenic sierra
seems balanced
smoky dock
you also need to consider Regeneraga, the damage refund, the jump speed, and Absorber Affliction
scenic sierra
all good?
steep whale
community gives more of every stat except regen than absorber does
thats factoring in the aura being up 100% of the time you can have it up
smoky dock
You don't need to factor the aura in 100% of the time or 0% of the time
You can do the math or whatever to average out the bonuses
steep whale
You can do the math or whatever to average out the bonuses
yes thats.. what im saying
nimble wing
all good?
minor note: if you would like to actually play the game and allow your enemies to actually pose a threat, don't use the sponge!
steep whale
im not doing the math again so believe me or dont
smoky dock
and DR scaling is really, really harsh
steep whale
community also gives dr
smoky dock
ultimately though, yeah it's not like... a big enough deal to think too hard about
scenic sierra
minor note: if you would like to actually play the game and allow your enemies t...
cant be THAT good
right?
smoky dock
community also gives dr
The damage rebate effect ignores DR scaling, is all
5% DR is weaker than 5% refund on incoming damage
steep whale
youre basically just trading whether you want regen or crit/flight time with community vs absorber
nimble wing
cant be THAT good
it completely prevents you from taking direct damage (AND from losing adren to the indirect damage) every FIFTEEN SECONDS
steep whale
it completely prevents you from taking direct damage (AND from losing adren to t...
it still takes your adren because basically every enemy does more damage than it absorbs
nimble wing
check that NINE SECONDS
steep whale
the one that preserves adrenaline is amalgam
smoky dock
I was fighting SCal a few times and remember Sponge taking 1 damage a few times
scenic sierra
check that NINE SECONDS
no because it STARTS after 9 seconds
6 seconds to fully recharge
nimble wing
oh, i was right the first time
smoky dock
spoongue is funny
nimble wing
I was fighting SCal a few times and remember Sponge taking 1 damage a few times
infernum scal?
smoky dock
yeah inf scal
nimble wing
bros and seekers contact were just not given an actual value they're both 1
smoky dock
I don't remember which hitboxes were dealing that 1 damage
steep whale
anyways i like community more than absorber because i like damage more than survivability
smoky dock
nono, it wasn't bros or seekers
steep whale
i would simply not get hit
smoky dock
Oh it might've been Tarragon Clook
nimble wing
i like terraria offense more than terraria defense because terraria defense makes me unable to die
steep whale
scal does contact damage in regular calamity?
smoky dock
Inf SCal has a dashy shield ram attack
I have no idea about basecal
but knowing basecal boss design there's probably no chance she has a dashing attack because that'd make true melee less miserable
scenic sierra
are you SURE deaths ascension is the best weapon here
im tickling his hp
that was like a 6 min fight and i didnt even get to 50% 2nd phase
steep whale
are you SURE deaths ascension is the best weapon here
yeah the fight just takes forever because its bad
its like the actual worst fight in infernum probably
smoky dock
is this yharfriend
ebon solar
its like the actual worst fight in infernum probably
what fight
scenic sierra
indeed
steep whale
what fight
yharon
smoky dock
murasama is the only viable weapon
the only other options on tier are Enforcer (lol) and Phasesaber (double lol)
scenic sierra
its fucking tiny how am i supposed to hit him
steep whale
its a meme true melee only works in phase 2
scenic sierra
back in my day murasama covered the whole screen
smoky dock
the third slash has a similar range to Holy Collider
steep whale
i mean technically you can hit him like once when he dashes in phase 1 but yeah
smoky dock
murasama is the only viable weapon
you do have a niche set with Phosgauntlets and Omega Blue if you're
fuckin nuts
if you've got that dawg in u
steep whale
that would work if the fight was like
good
and you didnt just take damage randomly because a projectile spawned on top of you
smoky dock
sorry i have Sponge i have the legal authority to decline incoming damage
scenic sierra
pathetic damage give me back my 20k base
steep whale
oh wait dont sponge and chalice have anti synergy
i forgor
i think chalice might make sponge not work
smoky dock
pathetic damage give me back my 20k base
murasama had its base damage reduced but its base crits increased from 4% to 65%
you currently have guaranteed crits
zinc sparrow
Yo ive been having a problem with WotG recently after returning to the mod. whenever i activate the mod and its dependant (daybreak) i experience a large FPS hit and stuttering when in the world generally. I didnt used to have this issue the last time i played with WotG and haven't added any new mods since. Is this a known WotG issue or a compatibility issue? i can provide a modlist if needed.
scenic sierra
murasama had its base damage reduced but its base crits increased from 4% to 65%
4%????????
wasnt it like 30
smoky dock
the default base critical hit chance is 4%
scarlet shadow
pathetic damage give me back my 20k base
less damage in exchange for more menacing reforges
elder nebula
Yo ive been having a problem with WotG recently after returning to the mod. when...
yeah wotg just lags the fuck out of everything and there's nothing you can do
smoky dock
it's typically going to be improved by things such as potions, armor, reforges, and other helpful effects
scenic sierra
less damage in exchange for more menacing reforges
i've been running warding is that stupid
smoky dock
no warding is meta
scenic sierra
figured since it scales
zinc sparrow
yeah wotg just lags the fuck out of everything and there's nothing you can do
are the WotG team working on a fix?
narrow coral
they don't even know what is causing it apparently
elder nebula
funny story
none of the devs can find where the lag is coming from
the code is extremely well optimized
zinc sparrow
damn that fucking sucks
smoky dock
figured since it scales
no warding is just meta
the scaling isn't necessarily why it's overpowered
scarlet shadow
i've been running warding is that stupid
full defense build on a playstyle that requires you to get into kissing range mid-bossfight? you're crazy
zinc sparrow
funny story
none of the devs can find where the lag is coming from
is their discord invite/close community members only?
elder nebula
zinc sparrow
<#489810939038924810>
thanks, missed that.
scenic sierra
isnt ruthless better than godly since i have 113% crit chance
scarlet shadow
the scaling isn't necessarily why it's overpowered
i used 4 lucky and 2 warding on cryogen with dark lance so im the new meta now 
smoky dock
i'm killing you
smoky dock
isnt ruthless better than godly since i have 113% crit chance
Yes
Murasama is unaffected by melee speed and melee size, so uh
yeah Godly only has an advantage of higher knockback
(lol)
fading dove
isnt ruthless better than godly since i have 113% crit chance
unless you want knockback for some reason then yeah
smoky dock
Good thinking
fading dove
actually wouldnt it still have like eight billion knockback because glove doubles it
narrow coral
i used 4 lucky and 2 warding on cryogen with dark lance so im the new meta now <...
0 warding real meta 🤑
infinite death hack
scenic sierra
is there seriously no better option for phase 1 than deaths ascension
damage is so ass
scarlet shadow
0 warding real meta 🤑
a no-hitter's wet dream
fading dove
is there seriously no better option for phase 1 than deaths ascension
check this shit
https://youtu.be/1oTxeY8G6tk
narrow coral
nah a real no hitter would go full warding
smoky dock
the meta reforge for astrageldon nohits is warding
scarlet shadow
is there seriously no better option for phase 1 than deaths ascension
are you even trying to aim for his head
scenic sierra
check this shit
https://youtu.be/1oTxeY8G6tk
what the fuck
scenic sierra
are you even trying to aim for his head
...?
fading dove
lucky purity goes hard
narrow coral
the meta reforge for astrageldon nohits is warding
see!!
smoky dock
lucky purity goes hard
holy fucking shit zasde
smoky dock
check this shit
https://youtu.be/1oTxeY8G6tk
oh it's psychomaxxing
lava chicken broth
yeey!!
fading dove
the murderous loadout, 5 lucky 2 menacing (i couldnt be assed to switch mods so just imagine unloaded item is purity)
smoky dock
REAL
ebon solar
LETTS GOo
PLANTERA INFERNUM LEGENDARY DOWN
just barely
had low hp and was about to get blasted with vines
ebon solar
fading dove
cover the arena with living ichor fire and no thorns can spawn
ebon solar
cover the arena with living ichor fire and no thorns can spawn
tesla potion
makes them irrelevant
fading dove
removing boss gimmicks with zero cost <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< being tortured for a billion years
ebon solar
pygmy staff or dormant brimseeker
fading dove
viral sprout
smoky dock
necrosteocytes
narrow coral
your did it ⭐
ebon solar
your did it ⭐
🥵
fading dove
tiki armour
narrow coral
🥶
ebon solar
tiki armour
wb for melee
Either a mod or something? Idk
scenic sierra
is goozma a fun fight or not worth downloading the mod
small monolith
True, but I'm proud of that :D
ebon solar
What a weird way to put that, and who wouldn't make a new char anyways!?
yeah exactly
fading dove
is goozma a fun fight or not worth downloading the mod
not worth imo
narrow coral
is goozma a fun fight or not worth downloading the mod
the greatest fight of all time
ebon solar
literally a given
fading dove
supposed superboss that dies in less than 80 seconds
the fight's flashy but thats it
narrow coral
just use a bad weapon on him
fading dove
the drops have abhorrent balancing
small monolith
Question rq, where's a good place to try to ask for building suggestions? 
scenic sierra
wont bother then
scenic sierra
is galactica smasher any good
fading dove
yeah galaxy smasher's great
scenic sierra
im fed up of 5 min+ fights just to die at the end
fading dove
second best post dog melee weapon
fading dove
not murasama
murasama is good at best
cosmic discharge can surpass shadowspec weapons
small monolith
Murasama is goated D:<
ebon solar
is terrablade post plantera
scenic sierra
should i use discharge then for yharon
fading dove
Murasama is goated D:<
talk to the killtime
scenic sierra
or too hard to hit
small monolith
Just using it bad 
Clearly
fading dove
cosmic discharge has a boss slow so it's not hard to use
scarlet shadow
is terrablade post plantera
post mothron
queen isle
talk to the killtime
"talk to the kill time" and then it's a letter
small monolith
Just gotta be good enough with it and it one shots everything :3
fading dove
?????????
narrow coral
talk to the killtime
ebon solar
post mothron <:ultimatesmug:807498328693669918>
👽
fading dove
where are you getting a 1000x mult
small monolith
fading dove
and even then it immediately falls off a cliff after you beat yharon
fading dove
drage is so much fucking better
queen isle
It's a ranking
its a letter
small monolith
Do you not know how rankings work?
queen isle
"what time is it"
"Q"
fading dove
murasama is genuinely useless compared to drage
narrow coral
😹
scarlet shadow
weak non-Photorescent Gauntlet users
i refuse to pronounce my favorite weapon correctly
smoky dock
i just struggle with it
fading dove
murasama gets a 3:01 on yharon which is quite good but worse than galaxy smasher and cosmic discharge
smoky dock
snagsplinter pauldron?
fading dove
cosmic discharge gets a 2:01
notsure what the hammer gets because im not in tierlistcord so i have to rely on people forwarding things
smoky dock
but in Infernum it has a niche for being, like, able to skip the entire rebirth phase
ebon solar
or for cal clone
smoky dock
is comet quasher good
it is exactly the fucking same as every other true melee weapon on tier
ebon solar
also is there any good items from pumpkin moon
or frost moon
apart from witches broom
smoky dock
submarine shocker, anarchy blade, and butcher's chainsaw outclass it due to subshocker and chainsaw being strong and anarchy blade being bigger
smoky dock
also is there any good items from pumpkin moon
look at the list of items available and decide for yourself
fading dove
north pole, candy corn rifle, chain gun, jack o lantern launcher, snowman cannon, stake launcher, bat scepter, blizzard staff, razorpine, dark harvest, raven staff
ebon solar
is perrenial ore post plantera
smoky dock
also haunted branch and butcher's chainsaw
ebon solar
when do u get that
smoky dock
you're on legendary mode, my guy
smoky dock
whar
queen isle
fool
fading dove
The Butcher is a Hardmode, post-Plantera enemy that spawns during the Solar Eclipse event.
narrow coral
🤖
smoky dock
grok is this real
fading dove
@glock how gun is this
ebon solar
is the plantatium staff good
fading dove
its C tier
dense ocean
Solar Eclipse occurs when moon is in front of sun. Thus, it's a moon event.
ebon solar
you're on legendary mode, my guy
yes but i have never played reg infernum and played base cal once years ago
fading dove
viral sprouts are better
scenic sierra
all of yall were wrong orderbringer MIGHT be the best weapon for yharon
scarlet shadow
all of yall were wrong orderbringer MIGHT be the best weapon for yharon
Excelsus*
fading dove
oh right inf yharon is fuckinnnnnnn
phoenix's pride
though galaxy smasher can skip phase 2
which gives you a little under half the time of phoenix's pride
scenic sierra
though galaxy smasher can skip phase 2
huh
scarlet shadow
❓
smoky dock
damn i didnt realize how much shit plantera unlocks
it unlocks reaver helm
evreything else is useless
scarlet shadow
evreything else is useless
Asgard's Valor:
smoky dock
who?
scarlet shadow
something that rams through things
ebon solar
holy shit
this reaver armor is SEXYYYYYYYYYYY
post plantera prog is sexy
cal clone is gonna be free
scenic sierra
god yharons fight is so ass
im looking at the minimap more than my actual game becauser he just comes out of nowhere and i have no time to react
wicked creek
im looking at the minimap more than my actual game becauser he just comes out of...
Audio cues
scenic sierra
dog is genuinely piss easy compared to yharon
scenic sierra
Audio cues
good point
i gotta turn down the music its too fire i have it all the way up
ebon solar
im looking at the minimap more than my actual game becauser he just comes out of...
destroyer moment
fading dove
try reading item descriptions\
ebon solar
the ftw jungle temple is something different bruh
trail ravine
Now that I've cleared wotg, I want to be able to call myself good at the game and am doing infernum. Having only played in revengeance before surely this cannot go wrong
Should I disable wotg if I'm doing infernum or do they work together?
I know that wotg is pretty unintrusive, but I dunno if its fights work with infernum
Or wrath of the machines for that matter
fading dove
chainsaw
trail ravine
Chainsaw is nuts
fading dove
Should I disable wotg if I'm doing infernum or do they work together?
wotg has specific fallbacks to make sure it functions with inf
trail ravine
Awesome, appreciate the answer!
smoky dock
whats better
smoky dock
if you never test anything out yourself, then you'll always be forced to ask for advice
and there's nothing stopping someone who's trolling or inexperienced from giving you bogus advice
ebon solar
if you never test anything out yourself, then you'll always be forced to ask for...
thats fine
nimble wing
Now that I've cleared wotg, I want to be able to call myself good at the game an...
expert-revengeance is realistically the only calamity difficulty that is actually worth playing (rn)
and none of your experience with calamity bosses will help with infernum bosses anyway
trail ravine
Teehee
smoky dock
and none of your experience with calamity bosses will help with infernum bosses ...
what do you mean running in the opposite direction of the hitboxes isn't a bulletproof solution to everything
narrow coral
real
trail ravine
Maybe I'll go back and do Fargo's eternity instead then, never did beat mutant in my original playthrough
nimble wing
souls 2.0 is colossal and being developed pretty actively, but we really don't know how much longer it will take
current eternity is all well and good and you should play it (especially true melee!)
trail ravine
I believe I did magic is my last playthrough of it and had a very good time with it. Didn't even know about souls 2.0 before now, actually! I'll probably switch to it if I don't find myself particularly enjoying infernum after all
ebon solar
expert-revengeance is realistically the only calamity difficulty that is actuall...
how
tawdry violet
good for eridanus?
small monolith
Maybe I'll go back and do Fargo's eternity instead then, never did beat mutant i...
Do the patch that makes it work with death mode calamity Although people who've done both still say infernum is harder
tawdry violet
Do the patch that makes it work with death mode calamity <a:070_molly_notes_dont...
infernum is fine except dog
trail ravine
I was looking into that, but the description said it really only worked up to some point in pre-hardmode so I didn't try it out
small monolith
I just installed it the other day and didn't see that
trail ravine
I see, I see
I must have misread something in the description then, it was quite late
fading dove
cal bosses up to and including calclone, along with exos and old duke have eternity ai
ebon solar
i hate cal clone brothers
warm mesa
ebon solar
yharons theme is peakkkkkkkkkkkkk
narrow coral
we should've done that for destroyer
trail ravine
Ah yeah here we go, this is the bit that I read and went, "oh it's only up to pre-hardmode oh well"
fading dove
yeah the description is outdated
trail ravine
Ahhhh that makes sense
ebon solar
we should've done that for destroyer <:clueless:1064298508653432933>
unlike dog
destroyer is unpredictable af
dog is more like aquatic scourage
scourage
super easy
to dodge
ebon solar
yeah i was just looking at map
i had to fight him in the same way each time to make him more predictable
by starting from same spot and barely moving
smoky dock
imagine
nimble wing
The vast majority of Death changes from Rev are barely noticeable at all and the few noticeable ones (all enemy AI runs at double speed, all debuffs deal more damage, Blood Moons smoke crack, Destroyer, Prime) are just abysmal
Any level of Cal Master is abysmal through and through
narrow coral
double speed ai my favorite 🤑
scarlet shadow
smh 5% on calclone
i tried to have fun with submarine shocker but ig its time to get true excalibur
smoky dock
subshocker on calclone's last phase is probably just impossible
past lichen
infernum is painful enough
scarlet shadow
subshocker on calclone's last phase is probably just impossible
doable but like
i dont wanna reforge all my accessories to warding
smoky dock
well, yeah it's possible it's just like, nohitting it? ehhhhh
scarlet shadow
either way shes down for good now
smoky dock
i used shadow jousting lance but even then it's uncomfortably close
tawdry violet
good for eridanus?
scarlet shadow
i used shadow jousting lance but even then it's uncomfortably close
jousting lances in the big 2025?
smoky dock
I'm not sure
smoky dock
jousting lances in the big 2025?
Yeah, why not?
gloomy wedge
good for eridanus?
Why wiz solar
scarlet shadow
🤔
smoky dock
they're buffed by calamity and bugged to be even better
gloomy wedge
You’d prob benefit more from sponge
tawdry violet
Why wiz solar
is it not good?
gloomy wedge
Or elements force
scarlet shadow
good for eridanus?
replace wizard with the force that has gold enchant in it
i forgot the name
gloomy wedge
Terra?
scarlet shadow
hmmm
tawdry violet
replace wizard with the force that has gold enchant in it
will i think
scarlet shadow
oh ye will
force of death is also a solid survival accessory if thats the one that has spectre enchant in it
nvm its an invincibility dash im tripping
either way spectre enchant's force is good 👍
scarlet shadow
i used shadow jousting lance but even then it's uncomfortably close
speaking of plantera is the current tmelee setup that im using good enough for her
nimble wing
they're buffed by calamity and bugged to be even better
No longer bugged since 2.0.5
elder nebula
nimble wing
where can the vernal pass possibly be at
Almost directly above the temple
onyx basin
lol
stoic ibex
astralpod staff any good? just beat dragonfolly
nimble wing
Geldon gear is balanced to post-Providence
stoic ibex
🤠
hell yeah
hoping the abandonded slime staff still drops
been using a zerg potion in the infection for a while and its not dropping when it used to drop all the time 🤔
balmy mason
they're buffed by calamity and bugged to be even better
the bug is fixed tho
but ye 2 shotting hardmode enemies with just normal speed feels good
trail ravine
Do lances work with the god slayer dash? That would be quite funny
smoky dock
they should
smoky dock
the bug is fixed tho
which bug are you referring to?
trail ravine
Can't imagine it being useful at post dog but still funny
smoky dock
absolutely funny, yeah
nimble wing
Do lances work with the god slayer dash? That would be quite funny
Cal’s replacement jousting lance formula actually has a cap though
nimble wing
And it’s not like there’s a momentum-scaling weapon remotely close to post-DoG
balmy mason
which bug are you referring to?
34 - Fixed Calamity unintentionally making Jousting Lances deal much more damage than intended.
trail ravine
I was amazed how much faster I moved once I got into demonshade, ND fists were suddenly dodgeable just flying
balmy mason
this one
smoky dock
34 - Fixed Calamity unintentionally making Jousting Lances deal much more damage...
The update that will contain that is yet to come out, so it's stlil abusable
nimble wing
I was amazed how much faster I moved once I got into demonshade, ND fists were s...
Oh wait were you fighting Nameless without demonshade armor
trail ravine
Yeah haha I was doing auric melee
Someone told me auric and demonshade were equal in power and I liked the stuff from auric, never even looked at demonshade
balmy mason
The update that will contain that is yet to come out, so it's stlil abusable
it's the Anniversary update dummy
balmy mason
trail ravine
Switching out Warbanner, which I was unaware of how bad it was outside of true melee, with draedon's heart also helped a lot
balmy mason
it's fiiinee they're still good
smoky dock
warbanner isn't an auto-include even FOR true melee
trail ravine
I liked the concept of Banner and wanted to use it, a shame that it's
Not so good
tawdry violet
good for yharon?
nimble wing
Someone told me auric and demonshade were equal in power and I liked the stuff f...
Demonshade grants an enormous speed boost, a minion that literally deals ten times the damage it should, and a keybind that multiplies all of your damage by 2.25x (the drawback is negligible). Someone really didn’t know what they were talking about, huh?
smoky dock
I liked the concept of Banner and wanted to use it, a shame that it's
Not so go...
warbanner is so peam
thin canyon
Someone told me auric and demonshade were equal in power and I liked the stuff f...
press the armor ability key and you will see
smoky dock
Demonshade grants an enormous speed boost, a minion that literally deals ten tim...
145% summon damage and 10 slots because
trail ravine
Yeah no once someone had me actually look at the demonshade stats I was like, "man I am never blindly trusting someone else's opinion on this shit ever again!"
thin canyon
2.25x damage boost while only have 1.25x damage taken
trail ravine
press the armor ability key and you will see
Didn't even need the active, it was like rock lee with the weights off on the rematch lmao
thin canyon
ehh the minion does damage anyway
smoky dock
nimble wing
ehh the minion does damage anyway
Well they’ve been talking mainly about the difference the speed boost makes
trail ravine
Collider is a lot of fun
smoky dock
it's pretty basic
thin canyon
big sword does big area ?
tawdry violet
how weird is holy collider
it's fun to use
smoky dock
UseStyle1
smoky dock
big sword does big area ?
it's just a very large sword
tawdry violet
Worm deleter
(it isn't that good on worms)
nimble wing
useStyle1 that freely spawns homing projectiles on hit except it’s the size of my face
thin canyon
got it like 1 single time and then never used it
trail ravine
(it isn't that good on worms)
Worked pretty good on all the ones I used it on, but I was also playing base cal 
fading dove
only problem is that the fireballs only hit and home in on valid homing targets which makes it a bit less good on more passive worms like basecal dog and thats kinda it
nimble wing
It helps decently with base Weaver p1, at least
trail ravine
Also good for destroying astrum deus, I forget what I needed from them but I kill them 4 or 5 times with it pretty quickly
I guess I mostly used it for punching down now that I think about it haha
fading dove
yeah deus is
several tiers outclassed
and already gets shredded by butcher's chainsaw
trail ravine
Yeah true
trail ravine
Terrablade is valid and safe
fading dove
ehhhh
tawdry violet
used terrablade on inf deus
tb is pretty good
fading dove
i dont think it'd function too well with both its own pierce falloff and deus' pierce resist
nimble wing
I wish Terra Blade wasn’t a mage weapon iykwim
smoky dock
real
trail ravine
By the way, we were mentioning the summon from demonshade and I was meaning to ask. I decided I'm doing summoner for my next playthrough since that, rogue, and ranger are what I haven't done yet.
Angelic alliance spawns an archangel per summon when you use it, is that slots taken or actual summon count?
vital mulch
I wish Terra Blade wasn’t a mage weapon iykwim
the curse of melee
scarlet shadow
the curse of melee
all thats left is to make starfury and enchanted sword consume mana to fire projectiles
scarlet shadow
great now also make zenith consume minion slots for each sword tier (and use mana per swing)
nimble wing
By the way, we were mentioning the summon from demonshade and I was meaning to a...
Wait, summoner for what mod?
Also the wiki says it’s for every actual minion, not just every slot
trail ravine
Wait, summoner for what mod?
Infernum, probably. If not, probably death eternity
nimble wing
Infernum, probably. If not, probably death eternity
Current Calamity summoner is almost completely thoughtless and almost always deals damage out the wazoo, so you should avoid it if you want things to like, Pose a Threat
nimble wing
I do usually recommend ranger
trail ravine
For sure, it was my go-to in base terraria from when the game released until journey's end
nimble wing
Generally simple but never totally effortless, consistent and reliable, has many cool reworks lately
trail ravine
Are bows still straight up better than guns in calamity?
nimble wing
I think it’s the most balanced class rn
ripe hill
Nah
trail ravine
Good to know
elder nebula
the 2 exceptions are like
blossom flux and contagion
ripe hill
the 2 exceptions are like
blossom flux and contagion
Others are nah
nimble wing
And Drataliornus (with a very big asterisk)
ripe hill
But overall, ranger sucks
trail ravine
Sounds like Lynel's right about it being pretty balanced then, should be a fun playthrough
trail ravine
Dude hell yeah, I loved the flamethrowers in base terraria
ripe hill
shadethrower my beloved ❤️
Gives brainrot to enemy lmao
elder nebula
corrupt flask (accessory) grants immunity to brainrot
balmy mason
can't get enough of Arc Nova line
narrow coral
flamethrowers are cool you should try some
truth hypernova 🔥
steep cobalt
can't get enough of Arc Nova line
because they are megaman references?
balmy mason
what
steep cobalt
what
scarlet shadow
should i change anything in my tmelee setup for Plantera
currently using Submarine Shocker with True Excalibur
steep cobalt
should i change anything in my tmelee setup for Plantera
uhhh, i'd switch out flame-licked shell for amalgamated brain
tawdry violet
what's a good melee weapon for abominationn?
steep cobalt
fargo dlc?
tawdry violet
fargo dlc?
yes
steep cobalt
if so then stealth dynamic pursuer
tawdry violet
if so then stealth dynamic pursuer
"what's a good melee weapon?"
gives rogue weapon
steep cobalt
oh
fading dove
tbf dynamic persuer is the best weapon for abom
steep cobalt
pastel basin
yall blood pact, the community, celestial shell, or ursa sergent for pre lunatic
gloomy wedge
Ursa
onyx basin
ursa 
terse willow
Yes i played it with a friend
balmy mason
you can play multiplayer but prepare for the risk of game breaking bugs happen during your playthrough
silent storm
infernum already incorporated the mp patch into itself
are uou sure I wont explode?
steep cobalt
yes
patent girder
you might explode if you do the bereft vassal boss
steep cobalt
hi there law car
silent storm
you might explode if you do the bereft vassal boss
what is htat
terse willow
I was wondering, what are the option for sentry pre boss? I can only think about the squirle (or whatever you write it) because the other are after eoc i think
steep cobalt
it wouldn't be that exhilirating if we were to spoil it here, would it?
tawdry violet
good for abominationn?
steep cobalt
I was wondering, what are the option for sentry pre boss? I can only think about...
rusty beacon prototype
pastel basin
holy fuck infernum eol is hard
steep cobalt
the debuff is pretty potent
terse willow
rusty beacon prototype
You can still find chest in the infernum abyss?
pastel basin
holy fuck infernum eol is hard
how is ANYONE meant to no hit this
patent girder
i did :3
steep cobalt
You can still find chest in the infernum abyss?
no because infernum altered the method of obtaining every single one of them
terse willow
Because i cant have scale to craft it
steep cobalt
consult the pinned comment here
steep cobalt
i mean message
steep cobalt
couldnt even comprehend none of the attacks
so based on how you articulate the sentence, you can comprehend every conceivable attacks that empress has at her disposal
yet you're still squirming and struggling
patent girder
john wires
tawdry violet
good for abominationn?
?
patent girder
looks good to me
pastel basin
so based on how you articulate the sentence, you can comprehend every conceivabl...
idki
steep cobalt
good for abominationn?
replace force of earth with force of nature
terse willow
Im gonna look into it thank you, because i was really wondering if trying to kill the eye with a chimpmunk was really possible
steep cobalt
cosmos and earth aren't a congenial pair due to how anti-synergistic they are
other than that, idk
five nights at freddy's
terse willow
And i don't think it is because he can't aim properly something that don't even move
terse willow
Yeah but i also need to kill a "mini boss" and the helico rat is depressing to use, and i wanted to get ride of it as quickly as possible, but im gonna try tommorow, thank you boss
terse prism
why is my world like snowy with a big ominous void in the background and im experiencing fog bro im fucking scareed 😭
fading dove
It approaches.
gloomy wedge
why is my world like snowy with a big ominous void in the background and im expe...
The fog is coming.
steep cobalt
fogbound
ripe hill
Why do I feel infernum yharon being easier than infernum dog?
steep cobalt
because it's a dash intensive fight?
ripe hill
Idk cuz I 143 attempt on dog and ONLY 2 ATTEMPT I was able to kill yharon
steep cobalt
mhm yeah plausible enough
stoic ibex
Profaned gaurdians boutta get the elbow drop of the century
fighting astrageldon is paying off hundredfold
pastel basin
is there a way to summon sulphuric rain without a caustic tear?
elder nebula
is there a way to summon sulphuric rain without a caustic tear?
no
pastel basin
time to wait ig
elder nebula
you can find one in sulphur sea chests iirc
pastel basin
wait is tier 3 of sulphorous sea post polterghast?
elder nebula
yea
elder nebula
have you played calamity before
ripe hill
have you played calamity before
Like I have 300 hours of playing calamity but idk is it my outdated knowledge or what but I always thought t3 acid rain is post old duke
tawdry violet
But its still easjer than infernum even on maso
i don't care how easy it is, it's a fun fight
scarlet shadow
uhhh, i'd switch out flame-licked shell for amalgamated brain
i dont think im able to use 2 amalgamateds
steep cobalt
i dont think im able to use 2 amalgamateds
ursa sergeant
one of the most potent defensive accessories out there
scarlet shadow
🤔
smoky dock
narrow coral
genius!
scarlet shadow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112873622562947104/1323372407733489715/m...
maybe just maybe i could stab some mermaids and fortresses with a pre plantera toothpick for some good post plantera upgrade
smoky dock
hell yeah go for it
scarlet shadow
will do
i had a promising run on anahita's first phase in pre-mech so i feel confident at this stage
aw shucks 89% hp on leviathan's phase
damn aureus got some enraged attacks out of nowhere
elder nebula
did it turn day
scarlet shadow
seems like it
i wasnt in the astral infection either
but never saw him spam his moveset like that before
most notably he sprays his astral piss in all directions without a clear pattern
elder nebula
yep that's the enrage condition
maiden fjord
ok so I tried inf dog
in attempt 47, I got it to 41.9% because I trigger both rage and adrenaline
the coil strategy is funny
yea I use melee for that and I haven't beat polterghast just yet
holy collider
tarragon armor
elysian wings
elysian aegis
the absorber
flesh totem [for no reason]
fire gauntlet
badge of bravery
warbanner of the sun
trail ravine
Any particular reason for elysian wings over tracers? I just used those the entire time for base cal and am curious as to if there would be a better reason for the wings in inf
maiden fjord
it's way faster than shoes
also in post moon lord boss, you're just gonna fly anyway
scarlet shadow
Any particular reason for elysian wings over tracers? I just used those the enti...
better flighttime and vertical speed
tracers only surpass on-tier stuff with horizontal speed which isnt that useful anywhere aside from exo mechs
trail ravine
I see, I was getting around the flight time by grappling platforms but that makes sense