calamity-addon-talk

[gilded salmon]

i let you guys down

[wispy scaffold]

Expert or master? And what boss?

[gilded salmon]

Master, plague bringer goliath

[wispy scaffold]

Death isn't the problem. Master is. Master revengeance will still be unreasonably difficult while expert death will be fine.

[gilded salmon]

Ok

I still cant.

Is moonlord easier then plague bringer goliath?

[wispy scaffold]

I don't know about expert death, but moon lord on expert revengeance is absurdly easy to the point that I don't even consider it a real bossfight, just a formality.

[gloomy wedge]

its not good imo

im playing through it rn

its just kinda mid

[gilded salmon]

I had to do expert revengance.

im sorry guys, i failed

[trim vector]

What whip should i be using before dog? Cant find a real progression wiki...

is it the one from polteerghast?

[dense ocean]

I'd assume so?

[tranquil yarrow]

From my experience, Righteous Dawn all the way. Unrelenting Torment's DPS is lower than even the Kaleidoscope somehow.

[cedar laurel]

stardust whip is the most broken one here that and blossom blessing were the best for me

[nimble wing]

eternity deviant is great and all but PLAY SILKSONG.

[trim vector]

Really? Trying on a target dummy now and with Torment i get around 19k dps and with dawn i only get 15k?

[dense ocean]

What if they haven't beaten Hollow Knight?

[nimble wing]

then beat hollow knight first and play silksong second

There is no greater priority.

[trim vector]

And what torment are you refering to? Cus the one on the right is the one that gives 18k and the other only 14k

[gloomy wedge]

i am

last time i ||climbed mount fay||

[nimble wing]

a

have you fought anything in ||(return) the slab||

[gloomy wedge]

no i havent

[tranquil yarrow]

The first one I think. The double whip every 40 frames that swings 4 times.

[gloomy wedge]

aside from the ||initial escape sequence||

[nimble wing]

i never got that

and i think i'm gonna do it in steel soul anyway!

[trim vector]

ye one click 4 whips is the left. the right is 4 whips per whip. If you know what i mean. But i feel like that one is stronger than dawn, but i might just be wrong idk

[tranquil yarrow]

Yeah the 4 whips per whip.

[trim vector]

Is the strongest for me now? Then after dog i get the whip that dog drops

[tranquil yarrow]

Doing whip only stuff Dawn came out on top in terms of DPS but that's just me.

Only advantage I saw from Torment is that it's got more range but then again Devourer's Maw has the same if not more after.

Though honestly Blossom's Blessing from unofficial does have the advantage of giving you some insane speed while grounded so if that looks nice then I feel that's a DPS cut worth taking.

(Well that and blessing giving you the ability to stay permanently in the elysian ram dash state so prolly theoretically invincible to contact damage.)

[trim vector]

hmmm okay thanks alot! Will play around with the four whips and see what i like the most xD

[tranquil yarrow]

Ey as long as it works for you that's all that matters.

[trim vector]

True

[tranquil yarrow]

I might be a dawn/blessing glazer but if Torment gets the job done then hey alls well that ends well.

[trim vector]

👌

[gilded salmon]

I did beat moonlord though, on expert revengance though

I really like onyx chain blaster

[mystic lion]

ok

so

does scal have a dsp

when you beat her

cause i just died

when she was on 1%

[dense ocean]

Infernum?

[fading dove]

inf scal does indeed have a desp

[mystic lion]

is it hard

[gloomy wedge]

Hardest part of the fight

[indigo spire]

a god does not concern himself with death

[gilded salmon]

A GOD DOES NOT FEAR DEATH

[grand iron]

why are the profaned guardians suck so much :(

[grand iron]

do they realize that i'm a rival providence fan and therefore are trying to beat the piss out of me much harder

[mystic lion]

bruh i keep dying at that random clusterfuck bullet hell she uses

where she summons the fireballs and exploding bullets

[gilded salmon]

Guys, does anyone else have a lame celebration mk2?

[grand iron]

celebration mk2 is the best weapon in the game (launchers are best subclass ever invented)

do the profaned guardians hate celebrationmk2

[gilded salmon]

No mine just doesnt shoot fancy

[jagged narwhal]

Just killed moonlord. Should i craft flowers of mortality? Im planning to craft elemental axe. Do you have any recommendations for whip?

I use entropy, catalyst and unofficial calamity whips

[fading dove]

use actual ammo instead of the mutant mod endless ones

[grand iron]

every time i go near the providence branded content house her twitch chat mods snipe me with a holy flames laser

and i don't know how to dodge it

maybe i should go kill dragonfolly my favorite boss

[smoky dock]

is it phase zero

where they're all invincible on one side

[upbeat lily]

Is there any ranger zenith like weapon addon mods that work with calamity

[snow heart]

am i missing something

she just kept saying the same dialogue

[smoky dock]

I don't think so

I've never seen a class expansion mod which I liked

[faint beacon]

yo lizhahrd I just beat profaned guardians

💀

[tranquil yarrow]

Has she not entered the portal and is on the "I need a moment to think" spiel?

[faint beacon]

I died at like 10% like 4 times

great time

[snow heart]

-has not entered the portal

-"ive been thinking to myself"

[tranquil yarrow]

Guess grab the antiseed out of cheat sheet cuz Solyn thinks she did it when she in fact did not lol

[snow heart]

also its so hard to read

[snow heart]

from cheat sheet's item browser?

[tranquil yarrow]

Yeah pretty much.

Hope everything goes back to normal quest wise and if it doesn't the Solyn Quest resetter from the cheat sheet also exists to try again.

[snow heart]

ok she has a different dialogue now

ty

[grim swallow]

Hey guys
Should I do my next run with as less QoLs as I can manage (fargos mutant and magic storage)

[faint beacon]

I wouldn't remove magic storage if I were you tbh

[maiden fjord]

I would tbh :3

[fickle wasp]

yes but no magic storage

organize your chests

[grim swallow]

Im doing masodeath I need magic storage

With how much random accessories and shit I need to keep

[maiden fjord]

there's no need of that

you can like, sell them or trash em

you can also install auto trash mod in case you get multiple accessories

[grim swallow]

No I need to keep them because I need like every single one later in the game

[scarlet shadow]

whaat

llaaaame

imagine not storing 3 breaker blades for no reason

[raven vapor]

how do i dodge that attack from EOL

masodeath

[quick cedar]

any infernum dog loadout tips?

[rain creek]

what even is calamity fables??

[low linden]

hello everyone!this is my progress on my first inf playthrough so far

[fading dove]

standalone reimagining of calamity

[low linden]

EoC: 12 Attempts, desert scourge: 3 attempts, EoW: 20 Attempts

[fading dove]

affliction over community

[quick cedar]

anything more?

i run out of flight time

[fading dove]

oh right

elysian wings

based on you running blunder booster i'm guessing you're spam rogue

[low linden]

thoughts? 6 hours so far

[fading dove]

just 6 hours for eow is pretty good

[low linden]

i just nuked corruption for big arena

im tryingto enjoy the game by making cool builds and stuff cant wait to show you guys!

[quick cedar]

ye

[fading dove]

omega blue armour

and i think old reaper as your weapon

[quick cedar]

i dont think stealth would help cuz of the stealth dash

[quick cedar]

it drops from reaper shark?

[fading dove]

old duke

[faint beacon]

I've killed these fucks like 9 times already, this is crazy

[quick cedar]

oh damn, any tips?

[fierce dune]

Calamity without the 50 DoG reworks
-# cause they dont have DoG yet

[grave marsh]

i wish calclone would just not have homing

it makes most of her attacks annoying for no reason

[fierce dune]

Isn’t that the point

[faint beacon]

ok I'm pulling out the cheat sheet

I don't want to farm for banner anymore

💀

12 kills now

[fierce dune]

Could also just add craftable calamity items

[grave marsh]

like to an unnecessary degree

[fierce dune]

Since it adds a couple of recipes for items that just torture to farm for

[quick cedar]

i got it to 20%

[grave marsh]

while others are literally turned into the easiest attacks ever

[fierce dune]

Wait are you talking about infernum eternity death or base

[grave marsh]

infernum

[fierce dune]

Calclone is annoying in infernum

[grave marsh]

not hard, annoying

[fierce dune]

But should only be like 1 or 2 attacks that get you

[faint beacon]

guardians is torture with true melee unless unless you speed kill

[grave marsh]

yeah it's literally only her last phase

[faint beacon]

and that needs you to wait for rage

💀

[grave marsh]

and occasionally before that if she spams a bunch ofbs

[fierce dune]

True melee guardians are more or less just a waiting game

Dont go for attacks just dodge and get a bit of damage in when you can

[faint beacon]

that's what I did for my first kill

but I'm farming rn

well, I was

[grave marsh]

atleast her song is fire

[fierce dune]

Exactly

[grave marsh]

when the boss is annoying but the song is fire so you lowkey don't mind

[faint beacon]

honestly I regret playing true melee as my first rodeo through infernum, but I'm too deep in and the sunk cost is big

pepeLa

[fierce dune]

DoG is an exception

A huge exception

[scarlet shadow]

sentinels have a better theme ngl

[grave marsh]

wdym

[fierce dune]

They have their own theme???

[scarlet shadow]

yeah?

[grave marsh]

you didn't know?

[fierce dune]

DoG’s theme is fire but dying a million times makes me not care even a little

[grave marsh]

uh

maybe a slight exaggeration

[fierce dune]

236

[faint beacon]

nah it's real

[fierce dune]

Thats an exact number

[grave marsh]

my first attempt was around 300

[scarlet shadow]

101 or smth

[fierce dune]

THAT WAS MY 9TH PLAYTHROUGH QWQ

I should not be struggling as much with the game at this point

I’ve done true melee and ftw infernum i should not suck this much

Especially with old duke

I hate him

[scarlet shadow]

i'm struggling to nohit Polterghast so i wonder how it'll go with DoG

[grave marsh]

i love getting hit by projectiles that have literally no explanation as to why they're there

[grave marsh]

dog is easy to nohit due to his nature

of nearly 1 hitting you anyway

[scarlet shadow]

yea true

[fierce dune]

I love having no immunity frames

[scarlet shadow]

hence why none of the bosses so far got me as much attempts as hive mind

[fierce dune]

I mean he is easy to no hit when you play the game a couple times in a row but i always take like a month break to avoid burnouts

[grave marsh]

sometimes i ram into an enemy and i just get 0 i-frames somehow

[fierce dune]

Yeah exactly

[scarlet shadow]

bad timing ig

[grave marsh]

like i heard the sound, didn't get hit before ramming, and it was a contact damage attack

[faint beacon]

it's jank

[scarlet shadow]

i could say so if this was an issue with basic enemies but most of the bosses are fat as fuck

[fierce dune]

On my winning DoG attempt i dashes into him frame perfect and i watched as his head took damage from the ram dash but he still bit my head off

[grave marsh]

skill issue real

[scarlet shadow]

💯

[fierce dune]

No i still won

[grave marsh]

secretly you died and got teleported to a alternate dimension where you won

[fierce dune]

My head might’ve been gone but i dont need a brain to live

[grave marsh]

zombie

[fierce dune]

Im a calamity fan i cant think

[grave marsh]

same

[fierce dune]

I see big shiny attack i walk into big shiny attack

Like a moth to a flame

[grave marsh]

sc

yeah imma use slagsplitter

i'm ramming calshadow so much that it's a waste not to

[fierce dune]

Average calamity fan

[grave marsh]

also because she's completely mugging me off with spawning projectiles inside of me

[fierce dune]

I do this but with ravager

[grave marsh]

no i'm not using buffs don't be silly

[fierce dune]

Explains it

[faint beacon]

why not use buffs

[fierce dune]

Jarvis give me every potion effect in the game then watch me pull off the dumbest death in video game history

[faint beacon]

should I ditch alch npc and get pristine potions instead

[narrow coral]

yes

yes

prisma's has walter white

[grave marsh]

also i hate this enemy she spawns so much why does it always go exactly where i need to dodge

[narrow coral]

that alone is enough of a reason

[faint beacon]

waltuh

[grave marsh]

why did it not show up on screen

yeah i just got hit in the middle of a ram dash that hit an enemy

what about it

[faint beacon]

be better

Kappa

but yeah fr ram dash is so jank sometimes

esp on small bosses

[grave marsh]

probably because you hit them less times and have less i-frames from it (i think that's how rams work)

yeah it worked that time

probably because i hit her with the very end of my dash

and then i ram into her and it doesn't even deal damage lmao

and i die for it

and again

i'm starting to think ram dashing is shit for calclone

[faint beacon]

I have everything but relic of resilience

and that thing needs necromantic geode to craft

very funny

[grave marsh]

yeah i-frames do not exist with calshadow

i rammed her and got absolutely 0

so imma just not use a ram

and instead magni

nvm

that's dukie

angel treads way better

literally no idea how you dodge her fire dash tho

[fossil saffron]

calclone ❤️

[grave marsh]

calshadow

also her fire dash is literally stupid am i the first one to say it

[misty palm]

Whats the best mods to add to calamity?

[grave marsh]

all\

[faint beacon]

the one in final phase?

[misty palm]

What

[grave marsh]

yes

either i'm somehow missing something or the projectiles that come after the fire dash are almost undodgeable

[faint beacon]

I ram dash it when I did it

with ornate iirc

[grave marsh]

doesnt work for me somehow

[faint beacon]

timing is kinda tight

[grave marsh]

i literally ram her and it doesnt even register

[faint beacon]

you need to ram her with the start of the dash

[grave marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-tutorial-terry-teryy-gif-6075569752216494196

i'm saying it didn't even do any damage when i clearly hit her

imma try it, and if it doesn't work, i'm personally blaming you

[faint beacon]

lmao

[grave marsh]

well

i found out what happens when you leave the circle during the brothers

i surprisingly managed to dodge it

[wicked creek]

Hmm, is it your first calamity playthrough?

[scarlet shadow]

Catalyst

and thats about it

[timber plank]

i 100% completed all achievements and beat the game twice on every class except summoner am i ready for calamity

[scarlet shadow]

theres Infernum, Wrath of the Gods, Hunt of the Old God and etc etc but only add those once you played the original mod

[wicked creek]

For a first playthrough I wouldn't recommend catalyst either

Both because the boss is much more difficult than base cal ones, and because the drops from it overshadow most stuff till like Polterghast

If it's the FIRST calamity playthrough you do, the only mods I'd really recommend are recipe browser, and boss checklist lite. Maybe magic storage depending on how much you hate chests

(Oh and also vanilla calamity mod music)

[scarlet shadow]

to be fair it depends on your self-restraint

i suggested the mod because of the flamethrowers and whips that are relatively balanced for their stages

[wicked creek]

Yeah, you could have done it even beforehand really.

Just look at this handy graph for which difficulty you wanna do on your first playthrough

[scarlet shadow]

first playthrough? Expert Death
second playthrough? Expert Death one class edition
etc etc

[wicked creek]

Personally I recommend expert revengeance on the first playthrough

It's the most standard experience

Expert death doesn't really change TOO much but it's still an added challenge

[scarlet shadow]

as long as its not master+ tbh

[wicked creek]

Yeah

[timber plank]

expert revengeance it is then

also

is ranger good on calamity?

ranger is my favorite class

[wicked creek]

It's a solid class. Simple, and reliable. I don't like it too much but it's a very solid starting pick IMO because while it does have its ups and downs like every other class, there's not many points where it has a particularly bad matchup

[timber plank]

and what would you say the worst class is?

[wicked creek]

(btw mostly unrelated but this chat is mainly for add-ons to calamity, #calamity-mod-talk or #help-advice-read-pins are more fitting for base calamity talk)

[timber plank]

ohh i thought it meant like calling calamity itself a addon

[scarlet shadow]

solid but theres better options

[timber plank]

what are the better options?

[wicked creek]

Well, for now, even if it's my favorite, it's mage, if based on average kill times

It's not like night and day compared to other classes, but you can feel its lack of DPS in some parts. SSO (the next update , sunken sea overhaul) will give it a significant boost, but it's all up in the air

[wicked creek]

Rogue and summoner have faster kill times on average, but they also usually require a bit more skill. Rogue because it's punishing if you miss a stealth strike, and summoner because to get the most out of it you need to manage whips. (The "defense" differences between classes don't play too big of a role)

[grave marsh]

alr i killed her, i was massively underestimating pwnage hammer and crippling my dps so i did basically no damage last phase

[wicked creek]

The entire hammer line has great DPS if you can aim it properly

[timber plank]

alright thanks but i can’t break my streak of avoiding summoner

[scarlet shadow]

1 Summoner
skill-1 Rogue
2 Melee
3 Mage/Ranger

[grave marsh]

it's easier to aim up and down so i tried to keep her above and below me, pwnage his hideous drop off otherwise

has*

[wicked creek]

Yeah, honestly as cool as they are I wouldn't recommend them for a first time player either

Not only are they harder on average to get the most out of them, but also they set expectations a bit too high IMO

[grave marsh]

also i forgot to fight a lot of bosses before calshadow lmao

[timber plank]

summoner #1

[wicked creek]

No that's not it

Summoner
Rogue
Ranger
Melee
Mage

That's the order of class kill times in base calamity

From faster to slowest

[grave marsh]

so far i'm having equal fun with rogue and melee, if i were to put a list based off of fun factor

[wicked creek]

Of course each class has its ups and downs

[mystic lion]

1st time dying on scals dsp

definelty not the last

[grave marsh]

do you have the thingy from killing calshadow in hell

it's like almost op for the desp

[mystic lion]

im having the LEAST amount of fun playing rogue rn

[grave marsh]

whatweapon

actually just show me your set up

fr

[mystic lion]

its not that its hard

i can do it

i just

dont find this fun

[wicked creek]

So far mage has been my favorite class for sheer variety of weapons

[mystic lion]

i

LOVE

mage

i love it i love it i love it

[wicked creek]

Next update mage is gonna get some new accessories btw , can't wait honestly

[grave marsh]

infernum has a rogue weapon that acts like a mage weapon and it's hideously strong for scal

[mystic lion]

dreamtastic

[grave marsh]

yuh

[mystic lion]

i actually dont get how thats a rogue weapon

but

hey

im not complaining

[grave marsh]

uh

angry balls

that's ho0w

[scarlet shadow]

i wouldnt get it becoming mage either

[wicked creek]

It's because it's a dedicated weapon, so it's an outlier

[scarlet shadow]

seems like a good summoner weapon tbh

[mystic lion]

but they arent minions

[wicked creek]

It is a TOME

[grave marsh]

is oblivion any good

i got it

[mystic lion]

theyre magical balls you summon from a spell tome

that ALSO summons a magic circle around you

[scarlet shadow]

summons 2 thingies that shoot things

[wicked creek]

Meh, not particularly? But in general I didn't use yoyos too much for melee

[scarlet shadow]

literally Lilies of Finality

[wicked creek]

The "summons" always stick by you don't they

[scarlet shadow]

with a tome

[wicked creek]

And they shoot magic projectiles that home in

[mystic lion]

the 'summons' also dissapear if you arent using it

[wicked creek]

And you have to hold it down

So you can't even use whips

[scarlet shadow]

jared supplies us with enough of that

[wicked creek]

Actually dreamtastic is just wingman but it homes in

If you think about it

But even MORE mage-themed

[scarlet shadow]

theres a holdable summoner thing that uses some jellyfish on a fishing rod

i forgot the name but its from base cal

[mystic lion]

wat

[grave marsh]

what about dark master

[wicked creek]

The cnidarian yes

[scarlet shadow]

yea

[mystic lion]

ok

[wicked creek]

That's an early HM weapon, not good at the point you're at

And also it's only good if you can consistently shoot the projectiles from it

[mystic lion]

can we talk about something even worse

[wicked creek]

Yeah. That thing.

It being melee is so weird

[faint beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1144619489342787677/1421416642184744970/image.png?ex=68d8f4e8&is=68d7a368&hm=347779de01572d1255e779748c6b7285a27bcb5d9943435bf266ce7a8fbc1d93&

somehow less painful than guardians

[wicked creek]

Yeah that's a common sentiment

[grave marsh]

because she's easier

[wicked creek]

Infernum guardians being harder than providence

Try her at night if you want more of a challenge

[faint beacon]

well I'm also on true melee so that adds to the pain 💀

[grave marsh]

does calshadow not drop ashes of calamity

[faint beacon]

it does

[wicked creek]

Eh, providence is not too bad for true melee

Good luck on phase 1 of polterghast!

[grave marsh]

oh my god how did i not see it in my inventory lmao

[wicked creek]

You'll need it.

[scarlet shadow]

i accidently did that in my no-hit playthrough and found it easier than guardians

still have no idea what to do with purity though

[faint beacon]

I already saw it

[scarlet shadow]

im def gonna strive for a low killtime on Polterghast simply because i dislike the fight

[grave marsh]

yeah i know this isn't my first rodeo

oh

nvm

ignore that

[faint beacon]

if I'm madge enough I'll just do melee instead

💀

[scarlet shadow]

❌

thy promises shall not be this shallow

[grave marsh]

i think imma use oblivion for abit

[faint beacon]

I didn't promise anything

smh

[grave marsh]

i honestly forgot brimstone crag has ore

that's like

the least expected place to have ore

[scarlet shadow]

then again its not really ore and more of deepslate charcoal

or smth like a melded material from multiple rocks idk

[grave marsh]

literally just ore

wait when does it spawn

oh

i thought i missed a boss that would make it spawn

cause i'm seeing none

[scarlet shadow]

nah its always there

you just need a tier 2 hardmode pick to mine it

[mystic lion]

2nd time dying on her dsp

im predicting

2 more deaths maybe

[grave marsh]

i'm assuming blighted cleaver is good

because i'm gonna grind for it

by grind i mean get enough money to max it legendary or smth

[mystic lion]

3rd time dying on her dsp

ill try brimstone crescent staff now

[misty palm]

Yea

[wicked creek]

@misty palm

[misty palm]

Hmm

Is there a calamity resource pack?

[misty palm]

Btw ive also heard about an alchemist npc how do i get that

[wicked creek]

Yes

[misty palm]

How to get

[wicked creek]

You can get alchemist npc lite, but it's a bit too powerful of a QOL mod for the first playthrough, IMO

Especially because it also adds some potions that aren't obtainable with base calamity and are way too powerful (like a free holy dodge potion, or free extra iframes, or free KB immunity)

You CAN get it but I'd not recommend it

[misty palm]

I just wanted the inf base game potions tbh

[wicked creek]

You can get resource packs from steam workshop, and just looking up "calamity resource pack" iirc

[wicked creek]

That'd be from Fargo's mutant mainly (although there are other mods which do it), which is another QOL mod but an even wider one.

If you want to use it, fine, it's your game, but it does turn the game into much more of a boss rush IMO, between infinite potions, infinite ammo, instant houses and instant long platforms, etc

[grave marsh]

it's not official pretty sure

but it's cool

[grave marsh]

why lite

[misty palm]

I just use fargo for the houses and platforms really

[dense eagle]

Boss checklist lite fixes the progression reset bug

[wicked creek]

Boss checklist full sometimes (not for everyone) has some pretty nasty bugs

[grave marsh]

not for me, but ig i can see wym

the only thing notable for me is argus is a bitch

[grave marsh]

false

[dense eagle]

No?

[mystic lion]

FUUUUUUUUCK

4th death on her dsp

and it was on her last attack

[dense eagle]

They literally made the lite ver only to fix this issue

[grave marsh]

then why did i experience the exact same bugs with lite

[dense eagle]

how?

[grave marsh]

i don't know dude

[dense eagle]

Almost everyone who complain about the progress reset issue, used boss checklist

Havent heard anyone having issues with the lite ver

[grave marsh]

maybe boss checklist full likes me and lite hates me

[dense eagle]

But every copy of tmodloader is personalized so

[grave marsh]

cause i barely experience any issues with full

[faint beacon]

yeah I haven't had any issues with checklist

[dense eagle]

Iirc its mostly happens when you use progression mode

[grave marsh]

lite is secretly the worm boss

ah

i don't use that

[mystic lion]

5th time

this is not enjoyable

[dense eagle]

Scal?

[mystic lion]

ye

[dense eagle]

I recommend analyzing on yt

[mystic lion]

im doing that rn

[grave marsh]

the only really difficult attack is the last one imo, the other two have a very easy method to no hitting them

[dense eagle]

Yea

But you need to know how to dodge the first

[grave marsh]

yeah

[mystic lion]

ok

i may be overthinking this

[grave marsh]

but if you're quick enough you can just run across the arena on the first attack and get away from like all the projectiles that spawned from calamitas

anyways imma start pantstera

[mystic lion]

oki

good luck

[grave marsh]

now that i know that like half of their attacks are a joke i'm confident in no buffing them

[mystic lion]

i underestimate my skills so im rarely ever confident

so good on you

and

uh

idk have fun?

[grave marsh]

i died because plantera got diddy mode and did thinks to me with her thorns

[wicked creek]

Plantera was one of my least favorite infernum bosses in HM

Not because of difficulty but because of how the fight works

[mystic lion]

her attacks were annoying asf

especially her zoning one

where she just cuts the arena into 8ths

[grave marsh]

i hate the arena that comes pre-made

[grave marsh]

do you mean 4ths

[wicked creek]

Lingering projectiles, partitioning the arena smaller, it's just so fucking annoying

[wicked creek]

4ths at first, 6ths when she gets lower health

[grave marsh]

i hate the arena she has

way too little space for a fight that needs alot of it

and the vines can sometimes just make you not move and take free damage

[mystic lion]

YESSIRRRRRRRRR

one remains

[grave marsh]

exos are way easier

[mystic lion]

really?

i was getting my ass kicked by them

specifically ares

hes a bitch

what should i replace over shattered community?

[grave marsh]

yeah i'm destroying the plantera arena

it is so terrible

also is plantera just tanky asf or does brimlash do jack shit damage

[lapis hemlock]

Providence infernum was so fun bro icel

[lapis hemlock]

Brimlash does pretty good damage

I just went in circles and parried her dashes

Shd work pretty well

I got it on like 4th try with brimlash

Brimlash is that good

[grave marsh]

it looks like it barely does any damage to me

am i using it wrong

[lapis hemlock]

What's ur build

The battle was around a minute? Or a minute and a half?

Ur arena shd be pretty damn big

It's the game changer

[grave marsh]

bruh

[lapis hemlock]

I used a city buster

From farhos mod

I used 2 city busters

To make the arena

Plantera spawns a shit ton of projectiles

[grave marsh]

1 i don't have citybusters 2 i'm not bothering with a arena

[lapis hemlock]

So yeah

[grave marsh]

also aether monolith is making it harder to see projectiles

just died because i couldn't do anything about the vines

why did i die

they shot projectiles but didn't dash

they literally went backwards

i just died to spore gas that wasn't there

alr

nice boss

BRO

ok that's just unfair

i got bounced into a vine wall for literally no reason and died from it

[fiery mango]

doesn’t make arena
proceeds to complain about boss

[mystic lion]

is there an override for sacrifice or does it HAVE to be right click to return the daggers

[fiery mango]

If you wanna override it you’d also have to override every other weapon’s right click

[mystic lion]

bruh

my dash is rebinded to right click so its kinda annoying

[fiery mango]

Do you have any other side mouse buttons

My dash is bound to one of them

[mystic lion]

ill try that

[plain maple]

how do i get the terminus on a world with infernum worldgen but i don't have infernum on so the terminus doesn't appear at the abyss

[grave marsh]

I LITERALLY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING

i died to plantera last phase because i physically couldn't dodge her get in the safe zone attack

[umbral crest]

Bruh how tf do you have solar hamaxe in vanity slot?! Also I'd replace nanotech.

[grave marsh]

trust

[mystic lion]

its a faster dig tool

[fickle wasp]

uhmm i dont think shattered community is the biggest concern here

[grave marsh]

BRO PLANTERA RAN AWAY

[umbral crest]

Serafim does good for him.

[fickle wasp]

seraphim

with ph

[umbral crest]

I'm not an English speaker, nerd.

[fickle wasp]

yeah

me neither

[grave marsh]

goooot no i-frames from a ram

great

[mystic lion]

EZZZ

AHAHAH

FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUU

[grave marsh]

also why do i sometimes just die to nothing after ramming plantera

[mystic lion]

sometimes if you ram dash while not facing her you still take contact damage

[grave marsh]

i'mfacingher

alr i killed plantera

just as unfun as i remember her from last run

she is fun when she doesn't give you bs

but she usually gives youbs

now that plantera is dead imma do the events and also kill the bosses i missed

[quick cedar]

best stealth wep for old duke?

also loadout suggestions?

infenrum

[mystic lion]

the little fan

the one u have in ur 3rd slot

blunder booster is also a spam item

also if youre using stealth

please use the abyssal mirror

and maybe moonstone crown swap with electricians glove?

[quick cedar]

so swap for mirror?

[mystic lion]

yes

[twin yarrow]

is this optimal for infernum dog or is there a better stealth damage accessory than destroyer emblem

[umbral crest]

Upgrade your healing potions and make Normality Relocator.

[mystic lion]

ok i wont lie

endgame rogue prolly up there in fun scale

[quick cedar]

made normality relocator, and owh i forgot about potions lol

[mystic lion]

near endgame-endgame its probably 1 of the best

nanoblack reaper on top

[umbral crest]

I'd probably also use Valediction.

[umbral crest]

Also wanna mention, The Old Reaper is goated for DoG.

[quick cedar]

yeah thats why im fighting old duke

[prime agate]

friends getting this msg whilst trying to join - any ideas?

we all have up to date tmod so im confused

[mystic lion]

outdated infernum

try reinstalling if you havent

[quick cedar]

update and download infernum multiplayer fix mod

[mystic lion]

or that

[prime agate]

it seems to be working now, just took a bunch of reloads

ty all

[fast nacelle]

It barely works

It’s still buggy as hell and Argus is still not beatable

Without cheats

[grave marsh]

imma do eclipse first for mothron wings, do AS for the water breathing acc and go down to the abyss

is that w

broken hero sword first mothron

[dense eagle]

Multiplayer fix mod got absorbed by infernum

Infernum mostly works on multi

[fast nacelle]

Iirc it only fixes like one thing rn

[fast nacelle]

Still buggy as hell with teleporting bosses

[dense eagle]

I had no big issues beside small bugs

[fast nacelle]

The skeletrons are the worst

[dense eagle]

Skeletrons bugs even on cal

[fast nacelle]

Yes but now it’s slightly worse

Cuz it’s harder attacks

[dense eagle]

I had no issues with them on multi

Its all depents on how good is your internet

With bad internet you will encounter gamebreaking bugs

[twin yarrow]

post dog it becomes so goated, i just beat dog i cant wait

[fast nacelle]

Yeah

Me personally think both sides use Ethernet cable

[quick cedar]

any tips for last infernum old duke phase? He just spanks me because i have dash cooldown

[supple ermine]

yes i finally did it

[supple ermine]

do u use asgardian aegis?

[maiden fjord]

asgardian aegis is like post-dog

[fast nacelle]

use hook of dissonance

[maiden fjord]

elysian aegis it is

[supple ermine]

ah sorry

but elysian its same

[fast nacelle]

I fuckin hate the names of the rams

Except deep diver

[maiden fjord]

le funni ram dash

[supple ermine]

elysian + hook idk

old duke is not strong boss i think I had no difficulties with him

sorry for my language i use translator xd

[fast nacelle]

It’s fine

[quick cedar]

elysian

on the last phase he just snaps me

[fast nacelle]

Show accessories

And what weapons

[supple ermine]

What class do you play?

[quick cedar]

i get liek 5 hits before the last phase, i enter it with full hp i die in like 15 seconds

[quick cedar]

rogue

[quick cedar]

stealth

[fast nacelle]

Get absorber and use glove of precision instead of the other glove

I forgot which weapon was best for rogue

[supple ermine]

do u have bind on u elysian dasH?

[quick cedar]

yes

[fast nacelle]

I think the dark ball thingy?

Like black hole

Singularity?

[maiden fjord]

sealed singularity

[deft dune]

just dont fight old duke

[fast nacelle]

Ye

[fast nacelle]

But think about the dashes

[supple ermine]

idk just training this fish just spam dash in u on last phase

make several attempts on DoG

after dog old duke is slow? xd

[maiden fjord]

rumor says practicing with godmode is the best way to get good on certain attack
but I'm not really sure nor believe it

[quick cedar]

maybe omega blue armor?

as im not getting struck more

much*

[grave marsh]

LMAO

i screenshotted him seconds before he jumped off the edge at like mach 12

i was chasing him with his own chainsaw

[wheat kraken]

😭

[grave marsh]

isn't draedon a fortnite character

[fast nacelle]

Ggs tho

[wheat kraken]

thanks im only 10 attempts into scal and i already want to kill myself

[thin canyon]

minecraft

[fast nacelle]

Real shit

[grave marsh]

he's that iconic castle crashers character

[wheat kraken]

i thought he was from celeste

[grave marsh]

i remember seeing him in baldi's basics

[maiden fjord]

green knight from castle crashers got mad aura ngl

[grave marsh]

blue

[quick cedar]

btw is tehre a way to spawn reaver sharks more frequently compared to eidolon vyrms?

[grave marsh]

just use zerg and pray

[fast nacelle]

Cheat sheet

[mystic lion]

yharon.....

screw it no boss rush

i got to stage 5

i beat infernum regardless

yipeeeee

[faint beacon]

crazy refund off a single item

[narrow coral]

🤑

[mystic lion]

selling an item for more than 2 gold??

bs

[faint beacon]

no it's refund from the goblin scammer

[twin yarrow]

tbf yharon is testicular torsion

[modern turtle]

i have the melee mod that makes the melee weapons swing cooler and better and i think i found a bug, idk if its intended to work this way

[grave marsh]

yum

[ripe hill]

uhhh i think auric tesla armor for mage in cataclyst mod make my held weapon bugged

is calamity overhaul fixed?

[wicked creek]

No

And it most likely never will be

The devs know of the issues

But don't want to bother fixing them

[cosmic sparrow]

is this a good load out for astrageldon? with starspawn helix staff?

[ripe hill]

alr then, didnt know what other mod to use to make weapon animation better

[wicked creek]

In general those mods aren't really compatible with calamity because melee weapons with unique animations from calamity break when you do so

[ripe hill]

yep

ur summons might need improvement mmaybe

[wicked creek]

Not particularly. It's not outright bad, but it could be better

[ripe hill]

ah i just downloaded weapon out

[atomic star]

this has to be the worst golden chest loot ive ever seen

[ripe hill]

i have seen worst, also why is ur trash slot so many

[atomic star]

mod

[ripe hill]

name?

[atomic star]

quality of terraria

it adds

a shit ton of stuff

you can customize it how you want

add/remove features in the confifg

[ripe hill]

wait the fucking minute, you can use qot with calamity? is it compatible?\

[wicked creek]

First of all the community isn't particularly good at that stage. I'd probably replace it with ambrosial ampoule. Secondly, the main reason to use plaguebringer armor is because it frees up a slot because it already has a built in dash. So you can substitute that too. Maybe with blood pact? Or charm of myths for more absorber bubbles

Or change the armor altogether to hydrothermic, or spooky, or Valhalla knight

Minion wise, I know for Moonlord the best setup is 1 terraprisma and the rest stardust cells, but astrageldon has timed damage reduction so I'm unsure whether changing matters that much honestly

[atomic star]

yeah ive been using it i havent had issues

did anybody else say it was incompatable?

[ripe hill]

not really but they did say it will crash with calamity which i was kinda skepthical about

[ripe hill]

u better off using combination of minions, my fav for geldon is combination of stardust dragon, terraprisma and other summon that u got

[atomic star]

it never crashed with calamity i dont think

[ripe hill]

then i am gonna fucking go for it with calamity vanity

calamit vanity is very very fucking fine right?

i mean absolute noo problem like overhaul?

[atomic star]

remove the star tained generator with a defensive accesory make sure everyhting is reforged to warding astrageldon has a damage cap that you cant break, so the second phase fight will always have to be at least 3 minutes and 30 seconds

[ripe hill]

i wouldnt recomment that

if ya can dodge well and time ur dash, just go for ful damage

[atomic star]

i just explained that you cant damage him becaue his damage reduction increases if you deal too much damage 😭

so again the fight always will be somewhere around 3 minutes and 30 seconds

[ripe hill]

i know

[atomic star]

since summoner with that setup does a lot of damage it woudlnt impact the dps much

and it would increase survivability

[atomic star]

i personally use the blood pact 25% more healing potion and 25% more health is really good imo

[grave marsh]

i literally saw mothron wings drop where tf did they go

[ripe hill]

but defensive capabilites are a little tiny bit useless since summoner is just super weak in defence unless ya use warding full

[ripe hill]

thats strange

but i mean geldon is a superboss anyway

even with full defensive ya can still get a buck load of fucking damage

[grave marsh]

the game's actually just trolling

[wicked creek]

That's false

You can use Valhalla knight armor

Which is an amazing defensive armor

[ripe hill]

never though of that shit god dammit y adhd again

[wicked creek]

The damage is good too with good sentry usage

[ripe hill]

cryogenic?

hive ppod?

[wicked creek]

I think at that point hive pod is probably better? Or dreadmine if you got walls

The ravager sentry is probably good for phase 1 tho, but much more uncomfortable to use

Cryogenic does have the advantage of not needing ground tho

[ripe hill]

oh yeah dreadmine too

[wicked creek]

But dreadmine doesn't either

[ripe hill]

but its slow with buckload of dmaage

[wicked creek]

Dreadmine with good mine spawn RNG is amazing

[ripe hill]

fr

[cosmic sparrow]

I do NOT like those cluster bombs

or whatever that is

Also the multiple slam attack he does he just slides right into me and its very annoying...

I did it

I ended up changing the community and asgard's valor for charms and ambrosial

[ripe hill]

no dash then?

[cosmic sparrow]

plague bringer armour gives dash for the summoner varient of the set

[ripe hill]

oh yeah i forgot about that, god damnit my adhd again

[cosmic sparrow]

yea... I love having ADHD and making a plan and immediately forgetting said plan cus I got distracted by something else 😭 or reading a part of information and just forgetting it all together

[ripe hill]

anyway, stupid question, red or purple evil biome for ranger? (uh i rather not say the name cuz i am lazy)

[fast nacelle]

Real

[fast nacelle]

I like ourple more cuz I like flamethrower

[cosmic sparrow]

which flamethrower though cus isnt there like 7 of them now?

[fast nacelle]

Shadethrower

I think

It does

[cosmic sparrow]

oh

[fast nacelle]

Flames

[ripe hill]

IDK WHY I FORGOT AGAIN I HAD CATALYST ON GOD

[fast nacelle]

and it throws them

[fast nacelle]

Peak

I love flamethrowers

[ripe hill]

yep i am going crimson, perferator drop ichorthrower which i just remember thats a fucking thing

[fast nacelle]

Yeah I’d go crimson as well

Perforators is more fun as well

Evil 1s is mid

[ripe hill]

unlike hivemind, kinda hate it tbh

[fast nacelle]

Fair

[cosmic sparrow]

for some reason after fighting great sand shark in infernum its decided to uncheck all my calamity bosses so thats why my community is so weak 😭

[fast nacelle]

Boss checklist

Use boss checklist lite instead

[cosmic sparrow]

interesting

[fast nacelle]

Also don’t use community

👍

[ripe hill]

welp, i have added quality of terraria and weapon out lmao

yeah community sucks in that stage of the game

[fast nacelle]

[shy seal]

#help-advice-read-pins message
So…lag is still an issue
Sorry if I might be pervasive, but Infernum is outright unplayable for me rn dawg 💔

What is the issue?

[elder nebula]

do you have wotg

[shy seal]

Nope

[elder nebula]

hrm

idk then

[shy seal]

Rip

[cosmic sparrow]

oh wow normally I really struggle with moonlord

[crisp bridge]

does calamity entropy have overpowered accessories

[dense eagle]

I heard it does but dont trust me cuz i havent played it

[snow heart]

can i still fight nameless deity with an endgame character and a new world

[crisp bridge]

is wrath of the machines harder than death expert calamity?

every boss after hardmode is easy

[gloomy wedge]

yes

its SO stupidly busted

[gloomy wedge]

the only thing it changes is exo mechs

[crisp bridge]

yeah i meant is it harder than for death expert exo mechs

[gloomy wedge]

@fading dove hey there was a broken post-wof entropy accessory right

some crown i think

[gloomy wedge]

significantly

[crisp bridge]

i dont know if my mage loadouts were overpowered but i didnt really feel that much challenge

[rain creek]

i tried wotm it didnt change that much for me

[crisp bridge]

took me like 20 attempts

[elder nebula]

yeah

[grave marsh]

just barely managed to kill anahita like third try

(i was underpowered the last two attempts because i had basically no flight time)

[narrow hazel]

hello guys, me and my friend cant play multiplayer

it kicks us out the world, the mod isnt loading in fully and invites are weird

[grave marsh]

is wrath of the gods a mod you have enabled

[gloomy wedge]

wow the dark blade is AWFUL

WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY DO TO SUBSHOCKER

[grave marsh]

why is abyssblade doing so little damage

[steep cobalt]

hm

i seem to struggle with lining up infernum dog's charges

[grave marsh]

just don't

butcher's chainsaw is so op..

[steep cobalt]

what

i've already defeated dog but eh it'd be prudent for me to ask for advices for future playthroughs

[grave marsh]

just don't line him up is my advice

[steep cobalt]

k

[grave marsh]

i usually let DoG control the flow of the fight, rather than me doing it

genuinely why does butcher's chainsaw do so much damage

[steep cobalt]

[grave marsh]

i'm doing around 6 - 10k dps

[maiden fjord]

[taken from the recording]
phew~

[grave marsh]

false

[maiden fjord]

also I think I just melted the final phase with both adrenaline and rage activated
so I assume it's gonna be disqualifiable but idk

[dusky ingot]

There are I think some requirements for minimum fight length, you can check if you are below that

[grave marsh]

yeah i'm pretty sure you're not allowed to even use adrenaline in nohits..

idk tho

[vernal night]

whats a good weapon for yharon infernum ranger

[dusky ingot]

Probs like Onyxia? I remember that being cool

[grave marsh]

the russian ak47

[maiden fjord]

minimum length for infernum desert scourge is 45 seconds so I'm good

[grave marsh]

how do you even kill DS in 45 seconds on tier

fitting ngl

[desert fjord]

Goozma slime haha

[grave marsh]

gemaotyr dag

[maiden fjord]

the current gear I use :

2 carlos [Wulfrum Controller] [Ruthless] + Snapthorn [legendary]

Wulfrum armor

[all menacing]
Fledgling wings
Frostspark Boots
Wulfrum Battery
Abyssal Amulet
Feral Claws

[twin yarrow]

do i use dreamtastic against scal?

or are there stealth weapons that are better

[grave marsh]

dk what carlos is but ok

[twin yarrow]

cuz i kind of wanna try dreamtastic but its a spam weapon

[grave marsh]

dreamtastic is the best spam weapon pre-game i believe

[twin yarrow]

and idk how the damage is compared to a stealth weapon

like wrathwing for example

[grave marsh]

the only rival it has is atom splitter i think

[twin yarrow]

im planning on doing scal first for the funy

funny

[fickle wasp]

funy

[twin yarrow]

so no supernova

[maiden fjord]

chapstixx reference 🙂

[grave marsh]

atom splitter and wrathwing are almost equal, wrathwing is just more cluttery

generally i found that dreamtastic is the strongest of the three

also supernova is only really useful for the brothers and soulseeker (i think)'s

even then

dreamtastic can still out dps

[twin yarrow]

i think ill just run a full dps build

tbh

i might use purity

ill just go full glass cannon

[twin yarrow]

im guessing its worth using with dreamtastic

or i could js run full lucky

[grave marsh]

even when i had a visual bug that made dreamtastic almost unusable the dps was good enough to justify imo

it does have a charge up though

[twin yarrow]

yeah ill just full glass cannon scal then

[grave marsh]

you're so unlucky

you could cheese scal hard with draedon's heart

(the gamer chair doesnt work on inf scal)

[normal anvil]

i

[elder nebula]

gg

[grave marsh]

skill issue

i woulda done it in 2 nanoseconds

no lie

[normal anvil]

fr

[grave marsh]

on my glass plater

is ~2000 dps standard for pre-golem

cause my abyss blade is rounding out around there

my abyssblade is godly and i have 2 lucky 4 warding

[jagged narwhal]

does calamity work fine with entropy, catalyst, unnoficial calamity whips?

[grave marsh]

just don't use calamity overhaul

[gloomy wedge]

well entropy isnt a very

good mod

and unofficial whips is discontinued

but i dont think anything should be inherently broken about them?

[grave marsh]

idk

[jagged narwhal]

it makes op weapons. im planning to beat master+revengace using that

[grave marsh]

why do you need op weapons for revengeance

[jagged narwhal]

dont you think calamity difficulties with master mode isnt broken?

[jagged narwhal]

because master is broken

[gloomy wedge]

well in terms of balance, yes

entropy is EXTREMELY overpowered

and also just not very good

[jagged narwhal]

master mode bro, dont you even know how hard ismaster

[gloomy wedge]

yes im playing it

im doing an entropy masdeath playthrough right now

[jagged narwhal]

nah, im asking gibble

[grave marsh]

i've played master before, it's unbalanced both on base terraria and any other thing

[jagged narwhal]

have you ever had a problem, you game suddenly keeps crashing and it came without a warning about incompatibility?

[gloomy wedge]

no

[jagged narwhal]

are u playing it with calamity? the hardest part is fighting cal witch in master

[jagged narwhal]

😔 why it only happens to me

[gloomy wedge]

scal has no master changes

the hardest fight on masdeath is usually agreed to be skeletron prime

[jagged narwhal]

something that makes master harder is the enemies stats are broken

[gloomy wedge]

i guess? but its not really a factor

[jagged narwhal]

i didnt even know expert+death is easier than normal master

[gloomy wedge]

esp since scal already isnt that hard in expert death imo

you have exo box

[grave marsh]

that's why scal inf is much harder

you can't use that

[gloomy wedge]

well that and also because its WAY more punishing

[jagged narwhal]

it is bro, i was struggling fighting cal witch over 30 attemps and i finished it once i changed to expert death

[gloomy wedge]

30 attempts is not that many

[grave marsh]

yeah

[grave marsh]

sorry meant you

lol

[jagged narwhal]

my hands were always shaking after i failed, it needed a lot of times

[grave marsh]

this is clearly a hollow knight player

[jagged narwhal]

well, some ppl agree expert+infernum is easier than master+death. i said this because everyone says infernum lacks compatibility with master or above

[grave marsh]

actually

there is a thingy that lets you play it on master

[gloomy wedge]

its got 70 bugs

at minimum

the most notable being that argus literally doesnt function

[grave marsh]

still counts

[grave marsh]

whofightsargus

[gloomy wedge]

you should

he has like a top 5 accessory in teh game

really broken weapons

[grave marsh]

i fucking hate argus though

he'smeantome

[jagged narwhal]

emm, is he a boss?

[gloomy wedge]

yes, infernum

[grave marsh]

infernum boss

exclusive

[jagged narwhal]

just knew infernum also adds bosses

[gloomy wedge]

two bosses

wait, no, three

wyrm gets a real fight

dreadnaut is promoted to the rank of boss

and argus

[grave marsh]

"real"

[gloomy wedge]

i like the terminus phase ok

[grave marsh]

bruuguuhhr

urggg

i need deathweed

flurg

[dusky ingot]

Could even be argued to be top3 in some world

Probably

[grave marsh]

what's the acc

[dusky ingot]

Cherished Sealocket

Basically makes 2 strong hits deal only 50% damage, and cooldown of that is like 90 seconds I think?

But you can also just accessory swap whenever it on cooldown so it goog

[grave marsh]

why is this litch not selling deathweed

[jagged narwhal]

But, the mod still can be played in this version, right? Doesnt mod have to be updated so it can be played in newer versions of tml?

[quick cedar]

any dog loadout tips?

[gloomy wedge]

it can still be played

[quick cedar]

using spam old reaper

[gloomy wedge]

its just not being worked on by anyone

[jagged narwhal]

So, it may be the reason why i suddenly got crashed? Is "cloud failed" not mods' fault?

[grave marsh]

oh my laaawd

[gloomy wedge]

replace crown with blazing core

affliction with cherished sealocket

ampoule is literally useless here

[grave marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hollow-knight-bugs-hollow-knight-bugs-fight-hollow-knight-fight-gif-4796561906590749259

ignore that use deep diver

deep diver supremacy

[grand iron]

are the profaned white knights guarding me from visiting providence's house supposed to be this much of a skillcheck

why are they so difficult

[grizzled onyx]

yes

[grand iron]

is the celebrationmk2 actually a bad weapon

[grizzled onyx]

it isnt bad