calamity-addon-talk

[half swan]

I guess I can try that

[smoky dock]

Well the 10% damage is nice but the dash isn’t

[half swan]

what should I swap for FWB

[scarlet shadow]

should i fully replace my summons with pbg's drops

[smoky dock]

Feral claws

The attack speed stat in general doesn’t really affect spears

By vomiting this big hitbox in SG’s vague direction you can hit it without too much effort… since it’s so long you can stay out of danger range for safer strikes. Since the debuff is so stupid strong you don’t need to hit over and over to make progress

[wicked creek]

No

[smoky dock]

Experiment with them to see if you like them

[scarlet shadow]

whatevers gonna work for EoL i suppose

[half swan]

what dash is best pre-SG?

[arctic bridge]

elemental axe for the rest ?

[fading dove]

you just beat prov

you have snake eyes, dazzling stabber, and virid vangard

[halcyon mortar]

does astrum deus have collision when he's doing the rain attack

[scarlet shadow]

virid vanguard, virid vanguard, virid vanguard*

[arctic bridge]

😭

is it that goods

[scarlet shadow]

best slot filler for DoG

[arctic bridge]

i mean right now ill be goin for signus and polterghast n what not from raw dps it lookslike dazzling stabber is better

[smoky dock]

your only options are the default dash, shield of cthulhu, and counter scarf

[scarlet shadow]

ig for those two yeah

[fading dove]

dog is fast

[arctic bridge]

okay wait

to be able to like know whats good n whats not

is it just experience

[smoky dock]

yes

[arctic bridge]

kind of irritating relying on asking here

[fading dove]

yeah experimenting and finding out is the best source of information

[smoky dock]

Just use whatever you have available and you’ll get a pretty good idea of what it does pretty quickly

[arctic bridge]

but you could have like 10s of accessories available at a time

like it never wouldve crossed my mind that mng > evasion scarf

[smoky dock]

You could, but you don’t necessarily need to try them all

You might be able to look at something and see at first glance “yeah i don’t care about that stupid thing”

Like Aglet or Bloom Stone

Sometimes you might not want to go out of your way for something that might not be worth it, like Luxor’s Gift or Heart of the Elements

That’s okay, you don’t need to use everything all at once… just exploring one or two brand new options every so often will go very far

[arctic bridge]

its also a situation of knowing what you have available at one time

[arctic bridge]

like i didnt know i had this stuff available other than dazzling

[smoky dock]

You can get that pretty shrimply by going onto the Terraria and/or Calamity wiki and sorting by Rarity

Then you'll get everything from one progression tier. For example, all post-Providence has one rarity before you get to post-Polterghast's rarity

[fading dove]

or putting in a new material you just got into recipe browser/the guide

[arctic bridge]

oh damn that sounds hella useful

[smoky dock]

Then within that rarity you can tell what you exactly have available by just checking how it's obtained... so if something requires Twisting Nether you can tell that, while it is post-Providence, you won't have it until you beat Signus.

That'll cover 95% of items and 99% of the ones anyone'd care much about

[crystal trellis]

Is masichist or infernum harder? They both seem light in preharmode

[arctic bridge]

skeletron...

[crystal trellis]

Like infernum one was harder

[smoky dock]

masochist

if you're using both at the same time then it'll be trivial

pick only one

[crystal trellis]

Ig time to complete at least 1 hard terraria mode fully

[smoky dock]

are you using true melee

[crystal trellis]

No?

[smoky dock]

:(

[arctic bridge]

anything to improve for signus?

[pseudo flax]

So much for "superboss".

(I have fought this boss twice before, so I had experience)

[halcyon mortar]

what melee weapon should I use against moonlord

[half swan]

yippee

true melee slime god

[arctic bridge]

wtf this whip swapping is so uncomfortable

how do people dodge while doing ts

[fading dove]

easily maso

raw maso doesn't start off too bad

but you will get hit with devi

and then wof

and then twins

and then lifelight

and then calclone

wait no calclone is dlc

and then golem

and then either duke or empress

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1193359397292888205/1217302191531098233/fargopolitical.gif

and then solar pillar

and then ml

and then abom

and then mutant

[wraith tapir]

HOLY SHIT

I GOT EXO MECHS TO FINAL PHASE

but i die to the twins

i forgot to dodge

good think u dont have to kill them

u just have to runnn

[elder wind]

If you're cool with cheesing, use magic conch

[wraith tapir]

i am cool with cheesing

thanks for the tip

[elder wind]

You can just teleport to the other side when they get near you

[wraith tapir]

welp now i just have to do that agian

shouldnt be tooooo hard

[arctic bridge]

old duke is fiddling with me

[wraith tapir]

bro they are not dying

ive teleported back and forth like 4 times

GG

THEY ARE DEAD

[rigid bobcat]

this scared me so much bro omg

[gloomy wedge]

The Fog Is Coming.

[dense ocean]

You need to run.

[scarlet shadow]

aw shucks no final attack again

[arctic bridge]

infernum duke mage tips?

/ items to use

[trim pine]

what mods should i use if im just tryna do a boss run

[waxen tide]

bat scepter

[arctic bridge]

old duke i mean

[waxen tide]

fates reveal

[scarlet shadow]

Dark Spark if you have little to any amount to aiming but Fate's Reveal is the best choice

[arctic bridge]

is there anything that doesnt require polterghast

😭

[pseudo flax]

Intergelactic or empyrian armor for rogue post-ML?

[arctic bridge]

its easilky the worst boss ive had to fight so far

[grand iron]

yall should i get rid of mutants house (that i destroyed the big planetoid for)

i think it looks kinda ugly but also it took me like 2 hours

[scarlet shadow]

Intergelactic is usable till Bloodflare

[night fractal]

Ain't intergel rogue like real bad

[rigid bobcat]

this is so cool

[wraith tapir]

anything to improve for scal?

[dense ocean]

Are you sure you want to lose your life to a boots that have given you nothing but strife?

[dusky ingot]

Use Illusioner's Reverie I think?

Tho might be wrong

[scarlet shadow]

too much hate on the best boots 💔

[dense ocean]

They are the best boots.

But they're not meta.

Why do you have the Brimstone Idol and Profaned Shard in your hotbar!?

And the Community just favourited?

[dusky ingot]

I mean, boots are kinda useless in calamity outside of like lightning boots and fairy boots

Since most of the time you fly anyways

[night fractal]

No

that's not at all true

Boots matter when you're in the air too

[dusky ingot]

Hmmm maybeee

[night fractal]

Not just maybe

boots change flight time, horizontal top speed, and horizontal acceleration

angel treads raise any wing to be roughly as fast as Fishron as well as cause any wing that they raise to double scale with move speed

this makes the fastest possible pre ML wings actually Harpy Wings with Angel Treads

[dusky ingot]

Hmm I didn't know that

Inteerestingg

Fairy boots still clear Angel Treads doe

Who cares about you moving fast, if you can be a boulder with a lot of defensive stats

[night fractal]

I'd say angel treads are better

Angel Wings + Angel Treads has similar defensive power, flight time, but better speed and accel than Fairy Boots with other wings around that tier

[dusky ingot]

Hmmm, butttt you can also have Angel Wings + Fairy Boots

For double defensive power

[night fractal]

but you'll be much slower

[scarlet shadow]

❌

[night fractal]

the difference between those is roughly the same as the difference between Pixie Wings and Fishron Wings

In horizontal speed

[scarlet shadow]

no thanks i'd rather dodge

[dusky ingot]

Ehh but for people like me that can't dodge regardless of wings

Chomk is the way

If you also pair it with something like Ursa Sergeant, Mollusk Armor, Charm of Myths and full warding you can tank quite a lot

Tho I reckon it might not be the best setup for No-hits

[scarlet shadow]

yup

luckily astrum deus wasnt an issue besides a couple deaths

now its just cultist left

and frost moon although i doubt theres anything for me to get there

[dusky ingot]

Astrum Deus was funi with that one Mage weapon

That killed him in like 6 hits or something

[night fractal]

Betsy's Wrath sweep

[scarlet shadow]

huh, didnt know that mage has something that good

either way gonna stick with summoner/melee

[dusky ingot]

I mean it was a weapon that is like completely useless for everything except worm bosses

Art Attack I think was the name?

That u just draw a circle or something and everything inside takes damage

[fading dove]

yeah its art attack

[scarlet shadow]

oh that

[scarlet shadow]

was pretty good for Plantera tbh

[scarlet shadow]

i'm gonna butcher whoever keeps making the first attack harder than the rest of the fight

[normal anvil]

my god

using phangasm and halibut cannon

[meager gulch]

Fuuuck, i fought the great sandshark and all my boss progress is goooone

[night fractal]

don't use boss checklist

use boss checklist lite

you'll still have to re-kill all those bosses though

[meager gulch]

Boss checklist is good idc, the boss made the treasure bag npc remove all the treasure bags too

Thats so annoying

[night fractal]

yeah because the bosses are literally no longer marked as dead in the world

Community will lose the levels, NPCs and drops that require them dead will no longer happen

if it undid wall of flesh, your world won't even be in Hardmode anymore

[meager gulch]

Mm all the vanilla bosses are checked

Only th calamity ones arent

[night fractal]

yeah often boss checklist just removes modded ones

It can happen anytime you change worlds but especially often with subworlds

[warm lily]

I need a little help on infernum installment, it keep showing me the mod was outdated

[meager gulch]

Is there like a warning or sumn about it on this disc? Feel like there should be if there isnt

[night fractal]

What's the actual error? The error is below that

[warm lily]

Hmm I'll ss it later since I'm not on my pc now

[night fractal]

I don't know of a specific one but it should come up a ton if you search boss checklist

[elder wind]

Boss checklist lite + nycro's nohit efficiency:

[meager gulch]

Wouldnt that just mean i have to fight every boss again jnclusinf vanilla?

Including*

[elder wind]

Wdym

[meager gulch]

If i change checklist mod

[night fractal]

No, boss checklist lite would keep them marked as dead

even if you didn't have any checklist mod and installed one

It would know who was killed

[meager gulch]

Would it restore the ones lost or nah

[night fractal]

No

The way it works is Calamity has a flag for "killed <x>"

The checklist mods check if that is set to true

When boss checklist bugs, it sets that to false

Meaning, as far as the entire game knows, the boss was never ever killed

[meager gulch]

Im so annoyed, gotta fight 2 bosses i just beat again :/

[fossil saffron]

checklist tweaking out has set my entire prehardmode bosses to “not defeated” except for like king slime and i think wof

[vague sluice]

I've experienced this bug before, and it erased the progress of almost all bosses except the progression tied ones (Skeletron, WoF, etc.)

[night fractal]

yea

[meager gulch]

It set every calamity boss to not defeated and now i gotta beat plauge bringer and stuff again :/

I have a vortex blaster so itll be easier but still

[vague sluice]

I mean with your current gear hopefully it'll be easier

[night fractal]

could also just use Cheat Sheet and butcher them

[meager gulch]

Id rather just do it legit

Dont wana cheat js becouse of a bug

Id feel like shit the whole playthough

And the bosses werent all that hard anyway

[vague sluice]

also pro-tip for using butcher button: don't use it in your evil biomes if you haven't defeated your Calamity evil biome boss before

[meager gulch]

How do i check boss checklist with the lite versuon?

Version*

[elder wind]

Keybind

[amber sedge]

what to i need for shadow calamitas infernum ranger ?

[hardy ferry]

can i add WOTG to my existing playthrough or will it mess things up

[night fractal]

It has its own worldgen so it probably won't work properly

[hardy ferry]

ok then ill add it after scal and spawn in the bosses

[night fractal]

But you should be able to at least fight nameless and avatar

But not mars

Mars won't be fightable without Solyn

[hardy ferry]

do they drop shit or no?

[dense ocean]

You can spawn Mars in with cheats.

[hardy ferry]

okok

thx

o/

[night fractal]

You can?

I wouldn't think it would work without solyn

Considering the whole fight is built around her

[dense ocean]

I'd assume the fight would spawn her if needed.

[night fractal]

I wouldn't

it might but knowing how janky the mod is

[ripe hill]

what is this

[fading dove]

unsullied

thats what its for

though you can harvest that structure for some tasty palladium

not enough to be useful

[ripe hill]

oh ;-;

did infernum also change sulphur sea?

[fading dove]

yeah

there's an arena in there

[ripe hill]

and idk if this is stupid or not but uh, i only use infernum for its structur expansion ;-;

[fading dove]

walterheisenbergwhite

your abyss doesn't function

the infernum abyss only works in infernum

[ripe hill]

oh yeah adult eidolon worm

[fading dove]

who the hell is that

[ripe hill]

nvm, i am not getting terminus anyway ;-;

[scarlet shadow]

great the bitch vassal is back at checklist scrambling again

[grizzled onyx]

i will also warn you to turn on infernum when you enter the abyss

[lofty mist]

Just don’t get hit

[grizzled onyx]

especially if you want your game to not run at a snail's pace

[ripe hill]

what do you mean?

[night fractal]

Well you'll also deal almost no damage

[grizzled onyx]

since if you go to where bobbit worms spawn, they bug out and end up having their bodies stretch across the whole world

i dont know why they do that, but they do

[lofty mist]

Almost no damage isn’t 0 damage

[grizzled onyx]

so turn on infernum if you are going into the abyss, itll save you

[grizzled onyx]

and as you can probably guess, this lags the everliving shit out of your PC

[ripe hill]

everytime i hunt reaver shark? (forgot what its called cuz memory pproblem)

[dense ocean]

Reaper Shark.

[grizzled onyx]

yeah

[lofty mist]

Bobbit worm is not bothered by the fabric of reality

Bobbit worm knows no bounds

[grizzled onyx]

they also very quickly retract out of the abyss, so getting a bobbit hook is a pain

[ripe hill]

a very decent hook cuz how fast it is but i dont think it can compare to something like astralgeldon hook

[grizzled onyx]

also you cant get some items like the lionfish in infernum since it wont spawn without the difficulty on

[night fractal]

it can't compare to antigravity hook or static hook tbh

[lofty mist]

Lionfish is broken

[grizzled onyx]

the bobbit hook is insanely useful against infernum dog

[lofty mist]

Rogue is unironically the best class for infernum WoF because of Lionfish

[grizzled onyx]

yeah lionfish shreds that thing

[fading dove]

yeah

because of lionfish

lets say that

[ripe hill]

i only turn on my infernum in abyss every single time so yeah i aint dealing with that worm of dog "roblox death sound"

[fading dove]

lets say its lionfish thats the strongest

[grizzled onyx]

slick cane staring from the corner:

[lofty mist]

Isn’t there that other weapon

Oops

Beat me to it

[grizzled onyx]

yeah theres slick cane but that shit is really gimmicky and hard to use

[lofty mist]

I love how rogue is simnotaniouzly both the worst class in the game and on par with mage

Depending on where you are in progression

[fading dove]

yeah there's slick cane, enchanted axe, glaive, kylie, metal monstrocity, shinobi blade, cinquedea, and gel dart

[grizzled onyx]

lionfish is significantly more consistent damage wise (yeah sure slick cane does like a trillion damage but you basically have to be touching the boss to hit it)

[fading dove]

wof is also really easy to get close to

[grizzled onyx]

from my experience EAxe isnt the best, but the others are also really good

[ripe hill]

pretty much, just stick to enemy and yeah, POISON

[grizzled onyx]

its homing is rather rudimentary

[fading dove]

shinobi blade is the worst post skeletron rogue weapon

its the sole A tier

[grizzled onyx]

and that thing is still really damn good

[fading dove]

i dont think rogue gets a 0:14 on polterghast

[grizzled onyx]

what the fu--

[fading dove]

glorious end

[grizzled onyx]

how does that thing manage that

[fading dove]

hoad and stealth

[dusky ingot]

Supreme Witch? More like Supreme Bi-

[grizzled onyx]

i see

[fading dove]

hoad stars scale with highest class and glorious end lets you take a shitton of damage

[ripe hill]

it is useable againt slime god

[fading dove]

it was also done with some spikes for even more damage

[grizzled onyx]

yeah i know about the bullcrap of glorious end that things ridiculous

[night fractal]

Mage gets like 40 seconds

14 is hide of Deus with spikes and rogue armor

[lofty mist]

Infernum polterghast sucks

[grizzled onyx]

yeah its not the best

[ripe hill]

its a pain

[lofty mist]

Better than inf old duke

[grizzled onyx]

(its not as bad as infernum OD)

[normal anvil]

✅

[grizzled onyx]

man come on got ninja'd

[dusky ingot]

How dare you hate on Polter-chan?

[lofty mist]

It’s broken, telegraphs don’t even work 90% of the time on final desp

[ripe hill]

what sucks the most is just the desperation phase

[dusky ingot]

They work for me, she probably does that for you because you use some mod she doesn't like, probably AlchemistNPC or something

[lofty mist]

[fading dove]

inf old duke aint even bad

[grizzled onyx]

its quite frankly ridiculous

[lofty mist]

EW

alch npc

[dusky ingot]

Desp phase is easy tho

[grizzled onyx]

its literally just dash simulator

[fading dove]

do you also hate dog and yharon

[lofty mist]

I use prismas

[normal anvil]

infernum yharon is so easy

[grizzled onyx]

i aint a big fan of dog but i dont mind yharon

[fading dove]

inf old duke has more nuance than either of them due to being faster than you

[lofty mist]

Me who doesn’t even have dash override on:

Maybe that’s why I hate it

[grizzled onyx]

hey wait i dont have that too

[lofty mist]

Dash override doesn’t work well with a controller

What would I bind it to

[fading dove]

thats your mistake

youre playing tmod with a controller

[lofty mist]

I usually just skip old duke

I did it on my melee run and never again

[normal anvil]

best dash override is lshift fr

[dusky ingot]

How do you play terraria with controller?

[normal anvil]

his harpoon gun saved me against dog

[lofty mist]

[dusky ingot]

That's like playing CS:GO on a controller

[lofty mist]

The same way one does on a console

[dusky ingot]

Incomprehensible

[lofty mist]

I’ve done every class but ranger so far on infernum

I’m halfway through summoner

[dusky ingot]

Yeah but like why would you do that to yourself? How do you even aim or use yoyo or build?

[normal anvil]

wonder why

[lofty mist]

Ranger is up next

[normal anvil]

[lofty mist]

Me when auto lock comes in clutch:

[ripe hill]

have got to be kidding me

[scarlet shadow]

aint ever gonna come to his buggy ass subworld

[normal anvil]

so that's why

lol

[lofty mist]

Autolock and smart cursor will save my ass when I do ranger

[lofty mist]

I don’t use yoyos

[dusky ingot]

;c

[lofty mist]

Building on a controller is the same as pc with the other cursor

[dusky ingot]

W-wgat?

[lofty mist]

I will do a yoyo run after I do tmelee

As soon as I’m done with Ranger

Which comes after I finish this summoner run

I’m gonna be so burnt out from infernum after this

[fading dove]

counterpoint: you get flick stick

[dusky ingot]

Do True Melee before Ranger

[lofty mist]

I’ve thought about it ngl

[dusky ingot]

Ranger is too mentally exhausting

[lofty mist]

Ranger worse than rogue (real)

[grizzled onyx]

isnt it really easy to use

[lofty mist]

It’s boring

[grizzled onyx]

yeah i love rogue personally

[dusky ingot]

Rogue is like top3 classes easily

[grizzled onyx]

true

[dusky ingot]

And fun

[lofty mist]

I did Ranger when me and a few others did multiplayer masodeath

Ranger is so boring

[dusty cobalt]

Every class is ranger besides tmelee

[dusky ingot]

Every weapon is like the exact same dor

No funny shenanigans like mage

[fading dove]

didnt use rustrifle award

[lofty mist]

Summoner using whips and unique summons:

[dusty cobalt]

And summoner ig..

[grizzled onyx]

rust rifle?

[lofty mist]

Summoner is more melee than normal melee

Bc of whips

[fading dove]

naval rustrifle

you have to manually reload it

[grizzled onyx]

yeah that ones cool

[dusky ingot]

Ah so it like that Overhaul mechanic?

[fading dove]

no

[dusky ingot]

Terraria Overhaul I mean

[fading dove]

its a single shot

[dusky ingot]

Ohh

[grizzled onyx]

https://fargosmods.wiki.gg/wiki/Naval_Rustrifle

[fading dove]

and you get a high velocity bullet and a guaranteed ubercrit

[dusky ingot]

Funi

[fading dove]

like 3x damage and 100% crit chance

glory to rustrifle

[grizzled onyx]

ive never personally used it but it looks cool

[grand iron]

i bind it to A personally

[lofty mist]

See I can’t do that

Because a is my jump button

[grand iron]

my jump button is left trigger

[lofty mist]

What’s your grapple button

[grand iron]

x

[lofty mist]

What’s your quick mount-

[grand iron]

y

[spice pike]

free at last (legendary mode).

[grizzled onyx]

how did you beat nd in legendary
is that gfb or ftw

[scarlet shadow]

🧐

[ripe hill]

got to be kidding me teleportation potion

[wraith tapir]

someone help

this fuckass scal is beating my ass

[ripe hill]

well at least i got the sneak peak of abyss in infernum

[wraith tapir]

shes so fucking stupid

what do i put in to make better

[lofty mist]

How do you open the inventory—

[spice pike]

Ftw.

[grand iron]

menu button

[spice pike]

Wouldn’t have tried in gfb.

[grizzled onyx]

yeah i think nd is pretty much impossible in gfb

[dense ocean]

Probably e, like everyone else.

[lofty mist]

Damn

Didn’t know e was on a controller

[dense ocean]

I think it's on the back.

[dusky ingot]

probs on c

[half swan]

Does anybody else think it'd be interesting to analyze the differences in design of the difficult modded terraria bosses and the difficult bosses of soulsborne, I'm a fan of both, and just what I've noticed so far is fairly interesting

:3

[dusky ingot]

Sure

Soulsborne bosses are more fights against the camera and runbacks, rather than being actually difficult, like some of the modded terraria bosses

Imo

[dense ocean]

I mean, they are radically different genres, but sure. I presume your focus is on Infernum bosses?

[half swan]

I think one of the most interesting things is the sort of shift in perspective, not the 3d to 2d but, but the sort of shift of the focus

Let me explain

[dusky ingot]

Expand

[half swan]

In soulsborne, the focus of the fight is typically the enemy itself, whereas in terraria the enemy is really just a big target

[dusky ingot]

True

That is the case

[half swan]

The real "fight" is the projectiles, bullet hell and such

Whereas in soulsborne, the fight is learning to read the movements of the boss

[dusky ingot]

DoG though

[half swan]

True

There's always exceptions

[dusky ingot]

Yeah

[lofty mist]

Do you just have this saved-

[dense ocean]

No.

[dusky ingot]

I think 3D doesn't allow for bosses as good as 2D though tbh

[half swan]

I'm inclined to disagree

I've 100%ed every Fromsoft RPG, including King's Field and the other retro games

[dusky ingot]

In 2D I like the fact that you always see the boss exactly as the dev intended, whereas in 3D the view is often ruined due to the infinite possible angles

[half swan]

I mean true but Fromsoft has actually gotten a lot better with that in recent entries

Particularly in Nightreign, the bosses are fucking FAST

And the camera works pretty well

[dusky ingot]

Well I did not play the most recent entries tbh, most recent I played was Sekiro

[half swan]

Elden Ring and Nightreign are great

[dusky ingot]

Where the fight is still against the camera rather than the boss itself

[half swan]

I mean

[dusky ingot]

Gotta play these someday

[half swan]

I would argue that Sekiro is one of their most polished entries

I never had an issue with the camera

[dusky ingot]

It is, but still not devoid of tiny things that kinda hurt experience

[dusky ingot]

I mean, the Pillars in Lady Butterfly and Father Owl fight are a big nuisance with how the camera works

[half swan]

Also here check my fight with the end boss of the ER DLC

Or do you not want spoilers

[dusky ingot]

Because the tiny pillars can often block your view of the boss for a couple secs, which unfocuses the boss

[dusky ingot]

Sure

[half swan]

https://youtu.be/umVGarahbzc

Very messy fight but you can see how much they've changed

[dusky ingot]

And a lot of bosses that spend any time in the air (eg. Lady Butterfly again) make the camera go absolutely bonkers and often unfocuses, or the boss is just invisible

[half swan]

Early Fromsoft bosses were much more puzzle than challenge imo

More akin to Zelda

[half swan]

Oh yeah, you gotta learn to lock off sometimes

[dusky ingot]

It does look clean

[gloomy wedge]

friede

[dusky ingot]

Yeah but it hard to do on controller (atleast for me), and the games are made for controller, so

[gloomy wedge]

fatalis

[dusky ingot]

Yeah, DS1 and DS2 had that a lot

[half swan]

DS2 is genuinely my fav

It's not without flaws, obv

[dusky ingot]

That I could never understand, but I guess it is an opinion

[half swan]

Hear me out

DS2 has one of the best PvP experiences

It plays very differently than the others

[dusky ingot]

Am not interested in PvP

[half swan]

It's not just Dark Souls, but again

[dusky ingot]

I want big dude fight

[half swan]

It sorta stands on its own

[half swan]

DS2 is more about the journey to the boss than the boss itself

[dusky ingot]

Yeah, it's closer to the Gothic 1 that came out in like the year 2000 or something

[lofty mist]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-king-bob-omb-running-away-gif-9668972772312625852

[dusky ingot]

One of reason why I don't like it

And a lot of controversial choices

(I am biggest DS2 hater)

[fading dove]

sm64 isnt exactly known for its amazing bosses

[half swan]

DS2 also had a lot of potential

It really struggled with limited budget and time constraints

[dusky ingot]

Yeah but turned out meh cause Miyagi didn't work on it cause he was busy with Bloodbath or something

[half swan]

If you actually look at Elden Ring, a ton of DS2 mechanics return in it

[gloomy wedge]

i still need to play ds2

[dusky ingot]

With Bloodborne I think?

[gloomy wedge]

game looks so ass but in the peak ds1 way

[dusky ingot]

Save your sanity, don

t

[lofty mist]

https://tenor.com/view/super-mario-odyssey-mario-bowser-fight-punch-gif-14736411

What about this one

[half swan]

Also look at their current projects, Miyazaki has explicitly stated they're trying to raise new talent right now, and they're doing well even without him

Although supposedly Miyazaki is cooking up something crazy

[dusky ingot]

Well, good thing they're doing well now, so we don't get another DS2

[dense ocean]

So close, that's Odyssey.

[half swan]

We already did though

[dusky ingot]

DS2 is good as a lesson what to never do

[lofty mist]

I thought it was sunshine

[dusky ingot]

What is another DS2?

[half swan]

Elden Ring is DS2 but it never ran out of budget and time

[dusky ingot]

See the difference is that Elden Ring is actually good (from what I heard)

[dense ocean]

Common misconception, that guy is named Mario.

[lofty mist]

No that’s Luigi

[half swan]

Both are good, DS2 is flawed but it's a great game

[dusky ingot]

It's Bowzer

[half swan]

Anyways this is getting pretty off topic

[lofty mist]

Mario’s the one from Fortnite

[half swan]

No Mario is the guy from that one weird movie about two plumber brothers and the Mafia or something

[dense ocean]

That's Link.

[gloomy wedge]

mario's the guy from nba hoops 3-on-3 right

or uh

the one gamecube basketball game with mario

you know the one right

[autumn echo]

Me and my frend are fighting nameless deity and at some point tis happends and it crashes our game

what do we do?

[gloomy wedge]

yeah just uh

dont do wrath of the gods multiplayer

like ever

[dusky ingot]

WoTG multiplayer 💀

Almost as bad as Overhaul

3D games could never give us peak bosses such as Boundless Infinity

[dense ocean]

Ok, that's going a bit far.

[lofty mist]

So your first mistake was doing multiplayer

[gloomy wedge]

that one guy who hasnt fought alatreon

[autumn echo]

k

[dusky ingot]

Second mistake was doing WoTG

[autumn echo]

bruh

[lofty mist]

I’m not falling for your rage bait polterghast liker

[dusky ingot]

Second mistake was doing WoTG, because his first mistake was doing Multiplayer

So since he already did multiplayer he shouldn't have done WoTG

Simple logic

[lofty mist]

I don’t remember if I’ve asked here before, but does anyone know if javyz music mod overrides the infernum music mod? I kinda wanna hear the biome theme changes without the boss themes being changed.

Or are there configs for it?

Holy paragraph-

[wraith tapir]

HOLY SHIT

I GOT HER TO FINAL PHASE

OOOOO

WE ARE CLOSEEEEEE

WE ARE CLOSE TO BEATIN THE GAMEEEEEE

[fading dove]

javyz' fargo music dlc has configs for everything

[wraith tapir]

MY FIRST SOLO INFERNUM RUN

[fading dove]

bosses with 2 or more alt themes have sliders

everything else is a switch

[wraith tapir]

FUCK

I KEEP GETTING HER TO FINAL PHASE

I JUST NEED TO DO THAT FLAME WALL

THEN I CAN EZPZ BEAT HERRR

[smoky dock]

[wraith tapir]

ITS VERY MEANNNN

ITS NOT EVEN THE WALLLLLL

ITS JUST THE PROJECTILES

IF I DO THAT THEN I BEAT HERRRR

[smoky dock]

yeah the projectiles are the main threat, the walls are just, like

auxilliary

otherwise you could just sit still

and

like

win like that

[wraith tapir]

FRRR

i just need to do that

ik her last two

ive seen too many videos to not know

[dusky ingot]

Go down, to another pillar spot, up, repeat

Or somethin like that

I don't really remember

[wraith tapir]

ok

ill stay up

go down

go to another pillar

reapear

repeat

[dusky ingot]

yeah something like that

[wraith tapir]

FUCK OFFF GAMEEEE

I DIED TO NOTHINNN

IM DOIN THIS FOR THE GOAT KEVINNN

[rigid bobcat]

is styx armour better than auric?

[wraith tapir]

I NEED TO GET KEVIN

whats styx armor?

oh shit thats fargos

[smoky dock]

who?

[wraith tapir]

kevin

the weapon

ive wanted to use it ever since i started the runj

[gloomy wedge]

It’s VERY offensive

If you can use that offense, yes

[wraith tapir]

ive been doin all this for kevin

[smoky dock]

who the hell is kevin

[gloomy wedge]

If you can’t (or if you’re rogue), no

[wraith tapir]

also is gem tech armor good?

[smoky dock]

Simultaneously yes and no

[wraith tapir]

K.E.V.I.N

[gloomy wedge]

Yes but you need to be good too

[rigid bobcat]

alright but if i suck at dodging, auric is the best i assume?

[wraith tapir]

oh

so no

[smoky dock]

Yes I fucking know how to spell it

[wraith tapir]

brother

[gloomy wedge]

The infernum weapon

[wraith tapir]

the mage weapon

KEVIN

[smoky dock]

Gem Tech's capacity to deal damage is unmatched by anything except Demonshade armor, it's obscenely strong

[wraith tapir]

hmmm i see

[smoky dock]

But on the other hand, it has zero defensive profile

[wraith tapir]

so i stay with auric

[smoky dock]

It rewards you for getting hit by dealing a fuckzillion retribution damage but like

[gloomy wedge]

If you get hit with gem tech you should just get instantly deleted honestly

[smoky dock]

It has a very unique punishment for getting hit by completely disabling the last class you got hit by

And if you get hit again whilst using a 'disabled' class... you lose all the survivability features of the armor set

Significant portion of defense, 4 HP/s regen iirc, and a lotta schmoovement speed. The set's survivability becomes worse than Omega Blue's survivability

but again. a million billion gazillion damage

i was coaching someone in nohitcord because they were doing a scal speedkill and wanted ideas on how to improve their killtime of like... 1:58 because they didn't think it was possible

and then with gem tech we dropped it down by ten or so seconds

[wraith tapir]

can u coach me on how to beat scal?]

cuz im like ass at the final thingie

[dusky ingot]

Motivation

[wraith tapir]

uhhhh

im not ass at the final thing

[dusky ingot]

I started with nothing - Imagine what you can do if you start with less than nothing

[wraith tapir]

wooooo hooooooo

[half swan]

what all preperations should I do before hardmode in infernum?

[lofty mist]

Depends on class

Mage, melee and ranger share similar paths

Rogue and summoner have completely different armor sets

[half swan]

I'm true melee

[rigid bobcat]

WHATS A good calamity melee weapon for mutant

[prime crystal]

Guys
Dose it work to have
Calamty infernum
Thoruim mod
Remnats mod ( the thing that changes world generation )
And maybe fargos for the QOL thing like hellavator?

[rigid bobcat]

idk about remnants

[prime crystal]

Exo blade and cosmic discharger were the best for me

[rigid bobcat]

alright thanks

[prime crystal]

At least u can foucs on dodgeing with exo blade

Dont forget to enchant Cosmic discharger to bloodthirsty at Scal

[rigid bobcat]

alright ty

[gusty cedar]

guys i just starded infernum and idk wich class will be easiest

[dense ocean]

Probably Summoner.

[gloomy wedge]

ranger or summoner id say

[rigid bobcat]

why doesnt he throw planetoids anymore 😔

most of its attack doesnt work idk why

[prime crystal]

Id quit the game if he throws this at me

[prime crystal]

Why would you wanna play a hard mod with an easy class

[dense ocean]

Because it's hard.

[gusty cedar]

bc i finished death mode and i want something harder

[smoky dock]

summoner

it’s generally the best class with very few exceptions

[wraith tapir]

GAME

IS COMPLETE

SCAL

IS

DEAD

GG

[smoky dock]

nuh uh

[wraith tapir]

boss rush ik

but i have kevinnnn

[smoky dock]

what

[wraith tapir]

AND KEVIN IS GOATEDDDDD

[dense ocean]

She's not dead.

[smoky dock]

Who the hell is Kevin you keep talking about him

[gloomy wedge]

its like his easiest attack

legit all you do is move up

[wraith tapir]

she issss

[dense ocean]

No she's not, unless you're some kind of monster.

[prime crystal]

I saw a vid that its an infernum weapon that deals cheese damage

[smoky dock]

Kevin is a name for humans

[dense ocean]

There is no cheese class.

[smoky dock]

i hope not

i'm lactose intolerant

[prime crystal]

Well, the one who named the item decided its a weapon name too

[gusty cedar]

i saw on youtube guy named Kujoh and he is doing infernum playthrough and i saw he is getting healed 20 and 5 hp per second you know how?

[dense ocean]

Does he have the Heart of the Elements?

[gusty cedar]

idk

[prime crystal]

Check the end of the vid, mostly they show their loadout

[smoky dock]

Heart Statues heal 20, plus 5 from a Photosynthesis potion

[gusty cedar]

he have this

[smoky dock]

disregard the video entirely

it isn't real

(it does not exist)

Venerated Locket is not a stealth accessory and Yharim's Gift was removed in Calamity v2.0

[wraith tapir]

yayyyy

now i make kevinn

[smoky dock]

wow yharim's gift was never good

[gusty cedar]

yharim's gift is removed?

[smoky dock]

nah i'm fucking with you

it's just bad

it was never good, I'm looking through the changelogs

15% damage, 15% movement speed, the meteor effect and 15 defense are all individually not worth a slot and are altogether also not worth a slot

[wheat pewter]

best gear pre providence after being geldon and moonlord?

[fossil saffron]

At its best not counting any nerfs (like in 2.0.4.003 halving its defense bonus, and 1.5.0.001 halving its dust’s damage, and completely ignoring immunity frames as opposed to 3 ID-static frames, and its damage boost being 25% universally, and its meteors having their damage Also halved at some point)

It still might not be Worth it

[smoky dock]

yeah, exactly

[fossil saffron]

Very funny that the dust used to just

[smoky dock]

There is no point in history where I could ever look at this stupid thing and go "yeah i want that"

[fossil saffron]

Ignore enemy iframes

[smoky dock]

especially considering dank sun ring is, like

a thing

30 defense, 12% damage, 0.5 HP/s and 2 slots

[fossil saffron]

yeah

i mean if its totally unnerfed its

almost there?

[gusty cedar]

what is this block

[fossil saffron]

25% dmg, 30 def, 15% movement speed

[smoky dock]

Heart Statue

[fossil saffron]

dragondust that just ignores enemy iframes and applies a 480/s debuff

[gusty cedar]

ik but next to the heart statue

[fossil saffron]

and meteors I guess

[smoky dock]

That's a 1/4 second timer and is completely unnecessary

[fossil saffron]

A heart every quarter second

Good God

[smoky dock]

No it's not that shrimple

Heart statues have a hidden cooldown of ten seconds

[prime crystal]

Can anyone advise on this?

[fossil saffron]

Oh thank god

I forgot I just

don’t use heart statues

So I did not know

[smoky dock]

Don't worry

Heart statues are still broken as hell

[fossil saffron]

I know that part

[smoky dock]

People are out there optimizing heart generation for funsies

I think the most I've seen is 170,000 HP/s

[fading dove]

i still think player sensors are better than timers due to the hard limit of 10 hearts in a world

minor spelling mistake

[fossil saffron]

I would still somehow die with this

Life finds a way ❤️

[smoky dock]

i didn't think about player sensors

but yeah those'll help you

[fading dove]

player sensors only really work if you're moving around though

[smoky dock]

alternatively you can use a big succ potion, a hoik, a dummy, and six hundred heart statues to generate 1 heart per tick

[half swan]

yippee

true melee WoF down

[smoky dock]

🎉

witch doctor better not be in one of those houses

[half swan]

uh

he is

for now

I'm too lazy to make pretty houses rn

[smoky dock]

WHAT

okay give him better living conditions

you don't need to do that for anyone else though fuck em

[wraith tapir]

bro

how do i make apothesis

i cant stack 2 weapons

[half swan]

best early hardmode true melee weapons?

[smoky dock]

bladetongue

[nimble wing]

deep diver slagsplitter pauldron (and bladetongue

[smoky dock]

TRUE

[half swan]

I'm corruption, is there a way to get bladetongue without fuckin with making a crimson biome

[smoky dock]

cobalt sword and cobalt naginata also have a niche

[smoky dock]

you have the crimson biome, it came free with your fucking world generation

[half swan]

??

no I have corruption

[smoky dock]

It should spawn contained in an island on the far right side of the world

[half swan]

it WHAT

is that an infernum thing

[smoky dock]

It'll be up in the space layer, over the jungle

No it's clamity

[half swan]

ohh

its a planetoid

I see

[smoky dock]

If you had Crimson, then you'll have a Corruption island directly above the dungeon

[half swan]

I've never found that before 😅

[smoky dock]

I don't blame you

It's also where the crimson chest spawns, in case you wanted a bad weapon

[nimble wing]

an extraordinarily overpowered weapon, but not because of the part where it deals damage*

[smoky dock]

oh yeah cobalt sword and cobalt naginata have a niche due to a bug

it was cursed by an evil demon and now has a permanent -25% defense curse

[gloomy wedge]

tbf vamp knives dont do bad damage

[crimson trail]

what summon do i use post golem

[gloomy wedge]

xenos

[crimson trail]

xeno is good right

[smoky dock]

xenos are fine

[crimson trail]

then uh

terraprisma?

[smoky dock]

you don't need to plan out every move

xenos are fine and when you get something new, use it

if you don't like it, you can switch back

[crimson trail]

rn im using gastric belcthers staff

[jagged narwhal]

do you guys know what causes this? bc of this, my character got permanently crashed

[dense ocean]

Follow the directions in the crash report.

[jagged narwhal]

i use calamity entrophy and catalyst

[jagged narwhal]

i completely dont know abt tech. eeee, what should it be called

[scarlet shadow]

from the looks of it theres some issue with water stuff

[dense ocean]

What?

[jagged narwhal]

the second image is after i created new character

[scarlet shadow]

any QoLs or fps boosters that specifically affect water particles/liquids?

[jagged narwhal]

ok, thanks for helping

im going to show allmy mods

[scarlet shadow]

50 mods wtf 😭

[smoky dock]

In the crashlog it tells you "This is likely a mod's fault. Disable mods one by one and check if the issue persists"

[scarlet shadow]

nvm even more

[jagged narwhal]

96*

hehe

[smoky dock]

Some of these are redundant and do nothing, like Omniswing

Calamity already gives everything autoswing

[dense ocean]

So does Terraria.

[smoky dock]

i never played that game

[dense ocean]

Me neither, it sounds dumb and stupid.

I hear they make 'mods' for it, like a bunch of nerds.

[scarlet shadow]

damn i missed one when counting

[jagged narwhal]

nah, it also makes every weapon can be aimed in every angle

[dense ocean]

What in God's name?

[smoky dock]

Are you sure? I used to use Omniswing

[jagged narwhal]

nvm it isnt really 96. i disabled some mods once after the first crash came

[jagged narwhal]

yea, its told in the description

[scarlet shadow]

you're on your own calculator for this one ✌️

[smoky dock]

either way

ew

[jagged narwhal]

god's name? what is that?

[dense ocean]

It's an expression.

[jagged narwhal]

ohh

[smoky dock]

I think I know but I'm not sure

[scarlet shadow]

ima just go back to nohitting Astrageldon atp

[jagged narwhal]

😢

[scarlet shadow]

though im not sure how to avoid the spiral slams

[smoky dock]

i actually should be noshitting geldon

my build was valhalla knight tmelee

[scarlet shadow]

facetanked half of them in my masodeath playthrough

i am using Perditus but im not sure if i have enough attention span to whipstack without dying

[smoky dock]

don't bother

you will get 3:30 and you will like it

also if you're nohitting, RoD is A-OK

[scarlet shadow]

yeah i have that in my piggybank

[smoky dock]

ew

[jagged narwhal]

most of these mods shouldnt affect water so it must be the mods that add new contect such as calamity entrophy, catalist, you, calamity HOTOG, roaring knights, star owner

[scarlet shadow]

says the void vault user or smth

[smoky dock]

you would be surprised as to what can cause issues

like Magic Storage breaking Infernum's Profaned Guardians' intro cutscene, enabling movement

[smoky dock]

the void bag?

[jagged narwhal]

💀

did that ever happened?

[smoky dock]

Yeah, I have a video and it's incredibly funny

[fossil saffron]

magic storage :)

[smoky dock]

Normally it's supposed to lock your movement but with Magic Storage SPECIFICALLY you're somehow able to move

[fossil saffron]

the world if i was forced to play calamity without hoarding 2 trillion fucking items

[jagged narwhal]

how am i supposed to know the problem with around 96 mods bruhhh

its not f playable

[scarlet shadow]

i really gotta learn how to evade geldon's slams

the first 3 are dodgeable if i align him but then he corners me on the 4th one

[smoky dock]

you installed the mods

now you must debug them

[fossil saffron]

I loooove astrageldon soooo mucccchhh

[jagged narwhal]

Can I disable half of my mods and test them in a new world? Will that work? I mean, my crashed world is already in post-Plantera, which means I had never experienced this problem before

[dense ocean]

God man, you need to disable most of them you have far too many!

[smoky dock]

Yes, as long as you don't disable dependencies without depending the dependant too

[fossil saffron]

continue infernum rogue … Or … start another meaningless random playthrough on a collection of random content mods

[smoky dock]

true melee

[fossil saffron]

I will not be doing that until after rogue

[smoky dock]

then do rogue

rush it

[fossil saffron]

truke

surely i can get out of preboss within

30 hours

and not spend that entire time dicking around

trying to break progression

[jagged narwhal]

Dependencies?

[fossil saffron]

things that depend on other mods to function in the first place

like wotg requiring calamity

wotg is a dependent

calamity would be the dependency

[jagged narwhal]

Is it not normal having 90+ active mods in a time? What about yours?

[fossil saffron]

Like thirty

Half of them being dependencies

current solo playthrough is

[smoky dock]

i have thirty and i'm sad about having too mawny

but you dont get it man I need my like, the witch doctor plushie mod

and the witch doctor petting mod

[dense ocean]

I'm noticing a pattern.

[jagged narwhal]

My brain aint braing seeng your words lihzahrd

[fossil saffron]

like i think 50% of my modlist is just there so thenother half functions

[jagged narwhal]

Just thirty mods?

[fossil saffron]

i think my lowest is 23

[smoky dock]

thirty six, I think

[fossil saffron]

which is my previous infernum wotg catalyst run

[smoky dock]

I have enough content to bash my head into a wall with

[jagged narwhal]

🗿

[smoky dock]

like the Build A Rollercoaster You Cant Escape mod

or the Godmode But It Isnt A Cheat mod

[fossil saffron]

[fossil saffron]

i think my progression plan for runs is

inf rogue (current)
inf tmelee
thorium healer
eternity-rev solo playthrough
gfb legendary death
maso-rev
maso-death

[humble marlin]

gfb legdeath gotta be the most overrated difficulty

[fossil saffron]

its not really a rating of each just when im going to do it

[lofty mist]

I’ve heard people nonstop shit on it

[dense ocean]

It's literally a joke.

[humble marlin]

im aware
but it gotta be

i terms of difficulty its ss hard as exdeath

[jagged narwhal]

Are you playing infernum in expert mode?

Just asking

[fossil saffron]

i do not particularly care for turning on master in infernum so no

[dense ocean]

Infernum isn't compatible with Master.

[fossil saffron]

or that Idk I just click expert

❤️

[scarlet shadow]

20-

[smoky dock]

master infernum is not possible

[humble marlin]

(also master + infernum causes bugs with the patch!!, some of them that impede progression)

[jagged narwhal]

But strangely the mod said it has to be run in legendary mode

[scarlet shadow]

the only notable count i have is 52 texture packs

[dense ocean]

It's not compatible.

[dense ocean]

No it does not.

[jagged narwhal]

Even though it doesnt now

[smoky dock]

the master mode infernum patch doesn't really do anything

[humble marlin]

with the patch

[dense ocean]

It's not compatible.

[humble marlin]

""patch""

[jagged narwhal]

Yea, thats the odd part

[dense ocean]

What's odd about it?

[waxen tide]

slopfernum

[dense ocean]

Amazing contribution.

[waxen tide]

👍

[fossil saffron]

how post polterghast feels

except exos ❤️ (NOT THANATOS)

[outer path]

just old duke and yharon

[fossil saffron]

I don’t like dog very much

[outer path]

fr thanatos sucks

[lofty mist]

Someone told me it’s f*bsols paradise

[dense ocean]

We've been spending most our lives living in a Fabsol's paradise.

[lofty mist]

Woah

You said the bad word without censoring it

[dense ocean]

What's he gonna do? Show up?
I'd punch him.

[smoky dock]

the bad word is rang*r

[fading dove]

wasnt gfb done by devs

[lofty mist]

I thought it was m*lee

You can only say it if you true melee

[smoky dock]

👍

[outer path]

calamity content was made by calamity devs?

[dense ocean]

No, don't be silly.

[jagged narwhal]

it showed "infernum difficulty has to be run in legendary mode" on our screen (i was playing with my friend) but ppl say it doesnt need

[fading dove]

i mean it was made by the devs, not cucksol

[lofty mist]

Wait this isn’t the Fargos server?

[dense ocean]

No it didn't.

[fading dove]

????

[dense ocean]

This isn't Sonic.exe fanclub?
Good.

[lofty mist]

Infernum is only compatible with expert

[jagged narwhal]

istg

[lofty mist]

Fortnite official discord?

[dense ocean]

Infernum is super incompatible with Legendary..

[outer path]

I will never not think Fapsol was jealous of infernum actually being good so he made master changes

[smoky dock]

Infernum physically does not allow you to play on any difficulty that isn't Expert

[dense ocean]

What's that?

[jagged narwhal]

and because of that, i was having hard time. struggling against slime king

[lofty mist]

Scary

[jagged narwhal]

thats what im trying to say. its odd

[dense ocean]

Not only is that not what it says, but Infernum wouldn't let you play on Legendary.

[outer path]

did Fab even know that people hate his boss design or was he just ignorant of how garbage his bosses are?

[dense ocean]

If I recall, he was known for being arrogant, so...

[fossil saffron]

Clearly every copy of Infernum is personalized

[outer path]

were the master mode changes going to be removed before Fab got kicked?

[dense ocean]

Calamitas apparition.

[dense ocean]

Nope.

[outer path]

talk about blind to your community

[smoky dock]

Fabsol was the only person keeping a lot of features in the game

[grizzled onyx]

like what features?

[scarlet shadow]

whaat wdym you dont want your king glizzy to show off 3 rgb gems?

[smoky dock]

Master changes are the big one, but also some weapons

[dense ocean]

All current boss design.

[grizzled onyx]

yeah dear god what kind of design is that

two of them attack and another gives a multiplicative buff to his damage and defense

[wheat pewter]

PROVIDENCE ON INFERNUM IS CRAZY

[outer path]

"Fab please let us change the bosses we have so many ideas for them"
"STFU GET BACK TO MAKING MORE WORMS"

[grizzled onyx]

which weapons?

[nimble wing]

Lilies of Finality forcing its displayed base damage to 512 regardless of your stats because it's a signalis reference

[dense ocean]

If I recall, he had a habit of adding features based on games he liked without factoring in HOW they would be best integrated.

[grizzled onyx]

thats quite frankly a ridiculous feature

[grizzled onyx]

yeah, and they'd get removed a couple patches later like the draedon aura field that damaged people

[nimble wing]

it's hard to put words to it, really

[dense ocean]

And I think Old Duke was a joke they made into a boss.

[smoky dock]

uhhhh, what's the ummm.... what's the weapon dropped by Permafrost in gfb?

[fossil saffron]

coldheart icicle

[grizzled onyx]

coldheart icicle

[smoky dock]

yeah that one

[nimble wing]

was field generator really a fab thing though

[smoky dock]

Fabsol didn't let that one in the game...

[jagged narwhal]

Its kinda off topic but does ‘Move to Cloud’ stop a character or world from crashing permanently?