calamity-addon-talk

[teal crag]

💔

[gloomy wedge]

use warbanner of the sun, deific amulet, cherished sealocket

[teal crag]

do you know? @gloomy wedge

[gloomy wedge]

idk

[fossil saffron]

i checked

no it shouldn’t

[teal crag]

i see

[fossil saffron]

item is called Rift Eclipse Toggler

[scarlet shadow]

not until beating aoe

[teal crag]

unfortunately that didnt fix the fps issue

on yharon and everytime he does a barrage of dashes i get fried because im at 18 fps

[scarlet shadow]

which armor gives the best dps boosts for ranger

[smoky dock]

ew

demonshade

also ew

[teal crag]

demonshade is fire bro

[scarlet shadow]

mb i meant pre-plantera ranger

[teal crag]

chlorophyte i believe

[smoky dock]

mollusk

it's just mollusk

[teal crag]

mollusk so slow man

so mid

[smoky dock]

mollusk also has post-golem levels of damage

[teal crag]

but i guess it has better dps

[smoky dock]

and you can just

like

completely sidestep the horizontal speed issue

[fossil saffron]

i think i might play infernum again but as rogue

[teal crag]

✅

[smoky dock]

go for it

[fossil saffron]

summoner only infernum was absurdly fun so might as well play it again but as a diff class

if i do it i should probably

do crimson

not for weapons or anything i just hate eow so fucking much

legitimately the only boss i said “fuck this boss” and loaded in on endgame mage to delete from my world so i would have to never see it again

(wasnt even high on attempts just annoyed the fuck out of me)

[smoky dock]

you can do corruption and still skip eow

er, you can do corruption and still fight boc

[fossil saffron]

I could

it’s like

crimson: love boc, hate perforators

corruption: hate eow, love hive mind

perfs theme hurts my fuckin ears so i would rather just not

but it might genuinely be worth it because i hate eow that much

do i need to like

make a crimson biome somewhere in the sky

[grizzled onyx]

there already is one there

[grizzled onyx]

why do you dislike demonshade

[smoky dock]

no i hate rang*r

[grizzled onyx]

ok ranger hater

[smoky dock]

no

you can just find a crimson biome in the sky

it comes free with your worldgen

no DLC

[fossil saffron]

well i do know about that

[scarlet shadow]

where does the ranger hate come from

literally the most mediocre class

[fossil saffron]

i just might want like a slightly bigger arena and i’m not a big fan of that island

i could probably just slightly extend it though

[grizzled onyx]

he's a true melee lover, ranger's quite literally the exact opposite of his favorite playstyle

[fossil saffron]

Ranger is a very funny class to me I don’t like playing it but just

Staring at class setups never fails to make me laugh

[grizzled onyx]

how so

i mean, i think deranged only likes one ranger weapon since its basically just a true melee weapon with projectiles

[fossil saffron]

Let’s see Ranger’s offensive accessory options from premech to pre-plantera

[scarlet shadow]

sounds more fit for summoner hating

[grizzled onyx]

he tolerates summoner

[terse rock]

i will probably be starting a 2x speed infernum run
thanks for reading time to go inactive again

[smoky dock]

i am ambivolent to summoner

i like summoner because of its capacity for complecity

[fossil saffron]

whip!!!! : D

[grizzled onyx]

bozo you misspelled ambivalent
ambivalent
am-ˈbi-və-lənt
adjective
having or showing simultaneous and contradictory attitudes or feelings toward something or someone : characterized by ambivalence
… people whose relationship to their job is ambivalent, conflicted.

[smoky dock]

minion micromanagement, weapon stacking, sentry resummoning and boss manipulation, etc

[grizzled onyx]

its very complicated and very cool class

[smoky dock]

perish

[grizzled onyx]

nuh uh

[fossil saffron]

ranger hardmode offensive accessory and armor setups are literally just vanilla until after plantera

its fucking extraordinary i laugh every time

[grizzled onyx]

quite frankly shroomite needs a rework it fucking sucks

[fossil saffron]

like some of the weapons are really really cool but just

not changing any accessories for half of hardmode feels like shit

and even then when i say postplantera its because you get a single one

deadshot brooch

[smoky dock]

don't use rang*r

[gloomy wedge]

You do change accessories, just not class accessories

[fossil saffron]

well yeah but thats standard for every class

[gloomy wedge]

also this complaint applies to literally every class except summoner and rogue lmao

[fossil saffron]

guess which classes i like the most

[grizzled onyx]

and rogue doesnt apply here since nothing in vanilla besides gladiator is rogue

[fossil saffron]

Idk I just like classes that change something in their class accessories even if it’s vanilla, and ranger doesn’t really change Anything until Plantera dies, and then they do start picking back up

deadshot brooch post-plantera, putrid gets turned into recon and ranger gets turned into destroyer after golem

..and then your next upgrade is Dragonfolly, then Polter, then DoG is your last ranger-specific accessory that gets an upgrade (elemental quiver)

[smoky dock]

the upgrade from dragonfolly is only sometimes useful

[fossil saffron]

just felt id mention dynamo

cuz it is a ranger only upgrade even if its not always a useful one

[lofty mist]

BAD WORD

[smoky dock]

yes

[lofty mist]

[fossil saffron]

but yeah ill play rogue infernum and see how it goes

probably no wotg this time

that was a very fun one-off but i dont think i care to do the whole thing again

and i want to avoid the fucking starstrikingly satiated buff

so i dont have unnerfed food buffs

[lethal folio]

do stormlions still spawn in hardmode

[lofty mist]

Yes

[celest ruin]

Are the boots better than the wings?

(aside from flight time)

post-dog

[prisma jewel]

No

Not worth the other things it gives

[smoky dock]

No, never

Elysian tracers are post-DoG anyways, so they're off the tier where Tarragon Wings exist

[celest ruin]

Are the boots ever worth it? They cost a lot of resources

[smoky dock]

Silva wings are the preferred post-DoG wings

[smoky dock]

it's debatable

for elysian tracers specifically

no lol

[celest ruin]

The final one is the debatable option?

[scarlet shadow]

pretty much

but even then ppl pay way too much attention to flight time and very little to horizontal speed

[lofty mist]

We need godslayer wings

[smoky dock]

No the fuck we don’t

[night fractal]

Both the first and final are debatable

[night fractal]

Yes we do

[lofty mist]

Same flights stats, it just benefits godslayer the same way Silva benefits with its armor

[night fractal]

They need to be a starboard upgrade

[smoky dock]

We can’t trick people into thinking God slayer is good

[lofty mist]

Rogue, Ranger and melee don’t get a choice

Aside from omega blue

[smoky dock]

They get fearmonger and omega blue

[night fractal]

fearmonger is so broken

[lofty mist]

What is fear monger

[smoky dock]

Broken

[lofty mist]

I’ve never used or seen it

Only blue, godslayer and Silva

[sharp shale]

Shhh

[night fractal]

it's the best post dog armor

[sharp shale]

..

Jk

Bye

[celest ruin]

Fearmonger good? I'm thinking of going back to summoner now that I'm done with Dog

[night fractal]

fearmonger provides an absurd amount of tankiness

And allows multiclass without penalty

[grizzled onyx]

fearmonger's the go to tank armor

[mellow condor]

it cant be... fearmonger is good????

[smoky dock]

You can play like you have a concussion and it just works

[night fractal]

fearmonger has always been good

[grizzled onyx]

especially if you have even 1 summon, let alone the multiple it gives you

[mellow condor]

NOOOOOO IV'E SPENT MY LIFE SAYING IT SUCKS

[celest ruin]

Dang, that good? I equipped Godslayer for my melee

[grizzled onyx]

he's also never used bloodflare or omega blue

[smoky dock]

No, it physically doesn’t work unless you have minions

[mellow condor]

I have used bloodflare!

[grizzled onyx]

yeah, you need the summons to get the frankly absurd regen

[night fractal]

It's strong still without it but not nearly as strong yea

[grizzled onyx]

you've literally said that tarragon's better than bloodflare

[smoky dock]

If you don’t have summons the set doesn’t work

[night fractal]

but like

[fossil saffron]

fearmongeeeeerrrr : D

[scarlet shadow]

aint no fucking way that the only difficult part was the first attack

[mellow condor]

That doesnt mean I havent used it

[night fractal]

Profaned Soul Artifact counts as minions even for those "purists" who don't use minions with another class weapon

[fossil saffron]

calclone funnies

[night fractal]

and it's a very strong accessory to have so W

[lofty mist]

Blood flare post dog is crazy

[fossil saffron]

I fucking love artifact

[smoky dock]

but it deals summon damage boo-hoo!!!!!!!!

[fossil saffron]

Best accessory oh my gawddddddd

[smoky dock]

We are legally allowed to kill those people

[grizzled onyx]

yeah as an accesory profaned soul artifact is cracked

[fossil saffron]

I have never had more fun with an accessory

[night fractal]

PSA used to be significantly stronger

back when it gave 15% minion damage too

[fossil saffron]

It don’t need it

[night fractal]

But it didn't have 25 barrier

[grizzled onyx]

its summon with healing, a shield, and damage all in one

[fossil saffron]

The fucking ranged attack is so funny

[night fractal]

It just gave defense/dr

[lofty mist]

I used summons when I did melee, just because it was my first infernum run; I’m full class locking on my current runs now though.

[night fractal]

Wanna know what was actually the most broken accessory

[fossil saffron]

[grizzled onyx]

what

[night fractal]

full class locking is overrated

[lofty mist]

Step stool?

[night fractal]

Asgardian Aegis

[fossil saffron]

yep

[grizzled onyx]

bout what i expected

[mellow condor]

Aglet

[celest ruin]

What is the best class/mix for post Dog?

[night fractal]

Back when Elysian Guard existed

[smoky dock]

HOAD

[lofty mist]

It’s a small challenge I’m giving myself, beating inferno as every class and then doing one more as tmelee

[night fractal]

Elysian Guard was SO stupid

[lofty mist]

Infernum*

[grizzled onyx]

wasnt it that ridiculous buff that gave you like a ton of defense but made you slow as fuck

[lofty mist]

I’m on rogue, I did mage and melee

Mage was awesome

[night fractal]

increased all damage by 15%, all critical strike chance by 10%, and granted 40 defense.

[fossil saffron]

40 def and 15% damage and 10% crit

LMFAO

[night fractal]

But -50% move speed (which really didn't matter)

[grizzled onyx]

who in gods name thought that was balanced

[lofty mist]

Rogue is also a blast

Not looking forward to Ranger

Might just skip ranger and go right to tmelee ngl

[fossil saffron]

I’m considering my mods for my next infernum playthrough (rogue)

WoTG: No
Catalyst: ???
Other content mods: Don’t really know either

[lofty mist]

Ik someone who did Fargos souls plus infernum

Which is super cheese bc of Fargos accessories

[fossil saffron]

Just entirely certain that I don’t want WoTG again mostly because of the Cinnamon Rollyn

Dumbass item

[lofty mist]

I did wotg on my mage run

Just don’t use the cinnamon rollyns

I didn’t

Not until post scal

[fossil saffron]

I can’t help myself

[lofty mist]

And post boss rush

I didn’t take anything from the bookshelf actually until post boss rush

[fossil saffron]

I ignore boss rush 👀

[lofty mist]

I’m super strict with myself and not wanting to cheat

[fossil saffron]

not a big fan of it

Bookshelf is fine it’s literally just the fucking rolls

that are

a buffed version of the unnerfed food buff

[lofty mist]

I didn’t use the Fargos 30 stack until halfway through mage bc I felt it was too cheesy

It doesn’t even affect fights

[fossil saffron]

I use that from the getgo

I have no qualms about 30stack or alchnpc abuse

[lofty mist]

I don’t like Alcnpc extra potions

[fossil saffron]

(And by alchnpc abuse I specifically mean “shimmering 9999 platinum candelabras for platinum bars to sell”)

[lofty mist]

Ik you can disable it

I just use prismas

Bc you can buy materials too instead of farming for 30 years for shark fins

[fossil saffron]

I might do infernum+fargo’s and just see, Fargo’s is a very interesting mod And doesn’t touch worldgen so it’ll work

[lofty mist]

And you can buy health potions

[fossil saffron]

Really like the bosses

and if I feel the accessories are too fucked then sure I stop using them

and go back to calamity class setups

[lofty mist]

If you do souls mod I would just not do infernum tbh

Souls and infernum are two completely different experiences

[fossil saffron]

I just have adhd

[lofty mist]

Also word of advice please

[fossil saffron]

More things more gooder

[lofty mist]

P L E A S E

don’t start with masodeath

[fossil saffron]

LMFAO

[lofty mist]

I did, beat queen slime and got to cryogen and quit bc it just

Wasn’t fun

[fossil saffron]

I have a mp duo running with

basecal, stars above, fargo’s

[lofty mist]

Keep in mind this was my third ever Fargos run though

Sorry

[fossil saffron]

and yeah we just both agreed

to

[lofty mist]

Third ever CAL run

[fossil saffron]

not touch maso

[lofty mist]

Mb

First ever Fargos

[fossil saffron]

Wtf are u doing masodeath for on ur first run of anything

[lofty mist]

I had to tone down difficulty to eternity-death

Once I got to cryo

And I had a way better time

[fossil saffron]

We’re doing eternity-rev and it’s really pleasant

[lofty mist]

Masodeath is just heavy stat bloat and bullshit mechanics (which is fine, it’s supposed to be that)

[fossil saffron]

I just don’t really care about Death mode, it’s either all the way (infernum) or chill calamity playthroufh (rev)

Masodeath just sounds unpleasant

Playthrough in eternity-rev is at

pre-mechs..?

pleasant insofar

stars above is a shitshow but it’s veeeery funny

I deadass don’t even know what the bosses are doing they just kinda die

[lofty mist]

It is

[celest ruin]

Which of these are the better summons? (aside from the last one) they seem so gimmicky I cant tell which ones are actually good (post dog)

[lofty mist]

If you’re hurting for a lot at once just do eternity-rev or eternity death

[fading dove]

ai overhaul mods do not work together

[fossil saffron]

For Yharon I’m pretty sure I was using Mirror of Kalandra / Cosmic Viper Engine

[fading dove]

for example

[lofty mist]

Cal plus Fargos adds so much on its own

Like

[fading dove]

hive mind is impossible

[lofty mist]

It’s actually crazy

[fossil saffron]

They don’t but I can disable that portion

[lofty mist]

Go make soul of eternity

[fading dove]

souls without eternity is like thing that goes really well with other thing without other thing

[fossil saffron]

Pretty sure modconfig for souls dlc has an option to disable fargo’s reworks if infernum is enabled

But idek

[fading dove]

souls bosses are completely neutered on expert

[celest ruin]

Which type of Mirror? Seems like there are multiple

[fossil saffron]

Incredible

Okay not worth it then thanks good to know

[night fractal]

There is only one Mirror of Kalandra

[elder wind]

mirror of kalandra and staff of the mechworm is good

[elder wind]

wdym

[fading dove]

like imo a significant portion of mutant's difficulty comes from mutant fang and mutant presence

[fossil saffron]

I’ll stick with my eternity-rev mp playthrough for fargo’s for now

[night fractal]

Most of the post dog summons are pretty much identically strong, except Mirror of Kalandra

[celest ruin]

Like this

[fossil saffron]

Yes

[night fractal]

They spawn in a fixed order

You don't pick

[celest ruin]

oh nvm, you can have them all

[fossil saffron]

5 slots, 5 friends

[night fractal]

Basically

[celest ruin]

Is Flamsteel Ring just a gimmick?

[fading dove]

thats more children of nature's eulogy, i wouldnt exactly call weapons friends

[night fractal]

Mirror of Kalandra, like 5 slots Mechworm, and then anything else

Flamsteed Ring is very strong

[fading dove]

an incredibly powerful gimmick

[fossil saffron]

Can’t craft it until shadowspec though

[elder wind]

flamsteed ring is postgame pretty much

but yeah, pretty gimmicky

(and fun)

[fading dove]

like iirc its really strong even for shadowspec

not RPC strong

but still huge

[night fractal]

Yeah it's insanely strong

[fossil saffron]

Really cool weapon . Unfortunately i have my accessory that lets me be providence

[night fractal]

It's worse than Scarlet Devil and Rainbow Party Cannon

and Profaned Soul Crystal

but PSC requires no other minions

[fading dove]

its not gonna be out dpsing kevin or storm maiden's retribution if you're running inf, and its gonna be worse than styx gazer and the penetrator if you're running souls dlc

the penetrator is just the best weapon in modded terraria

hands down nothing else comes close

god eater lets it pierce every bit of bulk anything has, it deals incredibly high damage, and also gives you infinite iframes

[celest ruin]

Is this the post DoG summoner build? I like that I have much less options but I still want to make sure

[fading dove]

where sponge

[celest ruin]

oh yeah, Im making it, that good?

[night fractal]

switch Nebulous Core to Dark Sun Ring

And Affliction to Sponge

wait

[fading dove]

best defensive accessory behind draedon's heart

[night fractal]

switch papyrus Scarab instead of neb core probably

But the 3 primary summon accesories are

Nucleogenesis
Dark Sun Ring
Profaned Soul Artifact

[fossil saffron]

spong

[celest ruin]

Any way for me to farm the Rover Drive for the Sponge? I threw away all of my old ones

[fossil saffron]

Welcome to Hell

[night fractal]

make a new world

[scarlet shadow]

forgetting The Amalgam

[night fractal]

they're insanely rare post WoF

[fading dove]

if you dont wanna do that, max spawn rates on the surface

[night fractal]

Amalgam is mid

especially on summoner

[fading dove]

shouldnt take more than a couple hours

[fossil saffron]

I like amalgam because I’m a stupid fucking idiot

Not irony this is literally why I run it

[scarlet shadow]

15% summon dmg and a dodge?

[night fractal]

summoner gets the least out of damage % boost out of any class

Plus summoner has the most valuable alternative accesories

[fossil saffron]

watch any of my DoG attempts and you’ll probably understand why I needed it so bad

[night fractal]

Except stealth rogue*

stealth rogue gets even less from damage %

[fading dove]

watching people run menacing on stealth rogue is so funny but so sad

[night fractal]

can't wait to make stealth make sense

[fossil saffron]

28% damage surely

so let me collect my thoughts on next infernum playthrough

infernum
catalyst - ?
wotg - no

what else?

idk if i wanna do astrageldon again cuz of the giant fucking progression break #lmfao

[smoky dock]

you can do geldon if you feel like it

[fading dove]

you can just not use geldon gear until post prov

[smoky dock]

just don't use intergelactic

or use rogue

[fossil saffron]

i have a really hard time stopping myself from using stuff if i have access to it

booted up terraria instead of tmodloader award

[fossil saffron]

thats the idea, its a rogue playthrough

[smoky dock]

use intergelactic rogue then

[fossil saffron]

im just trying to think if i want to add any other mods

[smoky dock]

it's okay it's totally not a completely dysfunctional armor set

[fading dove]

metanova rogue is a nice stepping stone between hydrothermic and empyrean

[fossil saffron]

surely

[fading dove]

it used to be

[fossil saffron]

let me see this

[fading dove]

quite a bit worse

[fossil saffron]

Intergelactic Headgear:

+20% rogue stealth.
Stealth strikes cause the asteroid belts to gain homing capabilities and launch towards enemies. The belts then need to regenerate before being able to be thrown again. Each rock deals 20% damage.

[fading dove]

interstellar volution is very strong though

[fossil saffron]

[fading dove]

it overcompensates for the lack of modifiers by just being obscenely strong

[fossil saffron]

i remember really liking astrageldons summon

eh fuck it ill add it in

lmfao

[smoky dock]

the issue with intergelactic rogue isn't obvious at first glance

[fossil saffron]

let me load my modpack

and then take stuff out

[smoky dock]

the asteroid belt is strong, but upon stealth striking you lose it

[fossil saffron]

yeah

20% damage seems

off

[smoky dock]

It doesn't recover in time for the next stealth strike, so you have more downtime where the asteroids aren't being ejected

Additionally the asteroids when shot are slow, short ranged, and have a short lifespan

[fossil saffron]

incredible

comparing that to my memory of the

summoner bonus: WTF

okay removed daybreak and wotg

ill add hunt of the old god too #fuckit

[fading dove]

it ranges from next to nothing to very good for dog

it needs aggressive summons like elemental axes, dazzling stabbers, or corvids to work

[fossil saffron]

Really liked it on virid when I was using it against..I think Polter

polter was the first boss to actually just wound my ego severely and then DoG stuffed me into a locker for like a week

[celest ruin]

Thanks for the tips before yall, is this the build for summoners? (post dog)

[night fractal]

looks like a pretty good option

I'd personally run Ambrosial Ampoule over affliction to reduce Dragonfire

[fossil saffron]

god forbid LMFAO

[fading dove]

insane ceaseless attempt count

[fossil saffron]

headache boss

unfortunately

[fading dove]

ah

[fossil saffron]

camera thing nuked me

[fading dove]

well there's a config option to get a normal camera

[fossil saffron]

no, the fucked camera works for the boss

it's just headache inducing

[fading dove]

ah

[fossil saffron]

i tank it

i actually od not remember taking

140+ attempts

[fading dove]

i quite like the camera

[fossil saffron]

but i guess it did

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/781842054828916736/1344022172380827718/pastapilled_-_1894166130320634257.gif

[night fractal]

How does the CV camera even work

Never seen it

[fossil saffron]

Locked camera until 3rd phase

Centered on CV

[night fractal]

Have independently from infernum had the thought of having CV locked to the archives and the camera stuck on CV, but idk what infernum does

Oh lol

[fossil saffron]

3rd phase he throws a fit

[fading dove]

focuses the camera between you and ceaseless

[fossil saffron]

and camera unlocks and you just fly around ther oom until he throws up and dies

good boss award

[night fractal]

next thing you'll tell me is that CV has moving platforms or something

[fading dove]

no

but golem does

[fossil saffron]

nope!

golem : D

[night fractal]

oh good my CV idea is still unique

[fossil saffron]

for now..

[celest ruin]

Whats the best Post Dog Sentry? The Ice Hydra evolution?

[night fractal]

It would not be the first time I made an Infernum boss by accident

[smoky dock]

cadaverous carrion

[night fractal]

That's a minion, not a sentry

Cadaverous Carrion is the only option until post exo mechs

[celest ruin]

Oh okay, I'lll keep using that then

[fading dove]

iirc carrion is still better than atlas

[night fractal]

atlas is cooler so shut

[fading dove]

true true

[celest ruin]

Is Sponge really good? I dont see whats so good when compared to the other sustain equips

[fading dove]

180 more hp that regenerates independently, along with 30 defence and 10% dr while its active

i think its 30 defence

either 20 or 30

[tranquil yarrow]

Pretty sure it's 60.

[night fractal]

You can think of it as reducing one hit by 200+ damage every 15 seconds

[fading dove]

alright its 30

[celest ruin]

i see

[night fractal]

Or as 180 life regenerated every 15 seconds after being hit

[tranquil yarrow]

Nope it's 30.

[night fractal]

plus 30 defense

And 10% dr

[tranquil yarrow]

Okay but anyway think of sponge as essentially a free pass for any hit you take with it active.

[night fractal]

that would be The Amalgam

[fading dove]

though in inf, most hits are gonna break a full sponge

[tranquil yarrow]

Only gripe is that the rover drive is just, god why is it so hard to get it?

[night fractal]

In basecal you'll basically always break full sponge

[night fractal]

It's not really hard if you just get it when it's meant to be used (pre boss)

Or prehardmode in general

[fading dove]

true i find my magic storage filled with like 12 by the time i end prehm

[tranquil yarrow]

In general yeah but still you can get like 7 batteries before getting a rover drive.

[fading dove]

thats probably because more things can drop batteries

[night fractal]

yeah

[tranquil yarrow]

At least farming at the beach or astral exists.

[celest ruin]

Mirror of Kalandra better than Possession?

[tranquil yarrow]

I dunno why wulfrum spawns are cracked in the astral biome using zergs lmao

[fading dove]

mirror of kalandra is the best post dog summon

[night fractal]

yes

mirror of kalandra is the only post dog summon that is notably stronger than the otherz

[celest ruin]

Everything else in interchangeable?

[night fractal]

Close enough to it

Mechworm is the other notable one, but only at low slot counts

Going all Mechworm is identical to the others, but adding 3-5 Mechworm to anything else changes a lot

[fading dove]

iirc hydras are very very very slightly better than other things but its a couple seconds at best and no difference at worst

[tranquil yarrow]

Cosmic Viper Engine is my favorite of the post DoG summons.

[fading dove]

everything but mirror and a few mechworms is all very well balanced

[night fractal]

Hydra is best because it's better on exos

on yharon it's like identical to CVE and Corvid

[tranquil yarrow]

What summon do y'all use for exos?

[fading dove]

i usually run 5 mirror, lilies, 4 mechworm

iirc lilies and 4 mechworm is better than kindle and 1 mechworm

[tranquil yarrow]

Ooh cool.

[fading dove]

proud fearmonger user

[tranquil yarrow]

Been vibing with the midnight sun beacon. Really love how fast it is.

[fading dove]

too bad its

[night fractal]

Metastasis + Lillies of Finality + Kalandra + Mechworm

[tranquil yarrow]

Ik lmao

[night fractal]

If I haven't done scal then swap metastasis for Endo hydra

personally

[tranquil yarrow]

I'm surprised it's that low like to me it feels underseeded like, I think it should be C but that's just me.

[night fractal]

Exos are meant to take 6:00 and Scal 5:00

[fading dove]

it might be slightly better on inf? but probably not enough to justify running over The Setup™

[night fractal]

the way it works I don't see it making a difference

[tranquil yarrow]

It definitely felt faster on infernum for sure.

[fading dove]

wait i just realised

[night fractal]

It might be faster but I don't think it'll be faster compared to other options

[fading dove]

this is the first time ive ever actually seen the minion

[tranquil yarrow]

Oh likely yeah.

Y'all got the strats down to a science I just picked the first thing I saw and happened to really enjoy how it played.

[celest ruin]

I forgot, how do I access the last slot of my equipment? I thought it was revengeance

[night fractal]

that's the best way to play tbh

[dense ocean]

Beat Moon Lord.

[night fractal]

7th slot is from Celestial Onion dropped by moon lord

[fading dove]

celestial onion is 7th slot

[celest ruin]

This last one, I already beat Moon Lord

[tranquil yarrow]

Yeah at the end of the day Terraria is a game where I feel you should be encouraged to play how you want :>

[buoyant drum]

Wise words

[night fractal]

That last one isn't a real slot

[dense ocean]

Are you sure the difficulty didn't get changed?

[night fractal]

You probably had Celestial Onion before 2.0.5 dropped

2.0.5 changed Celestial Onion slot and caused that

[fading dove]

most of everything is at the very least usable which should be the goal
there are a few stinkers here and there

[night fractal]

but you should only have 7

[celest ruin]

Oh....

[fading dove]

cough cough excalibur

[celest ruin]

what do I do now?

[fading dove]

cough cough phaseslayer

[buoyant drum]

damn

[buoyant drum]

ok thats valid

[tranquil yarrow]

Yeah for sure. That does make me wonder why is the phaseslayer so turbo ass?

[celest ruin]

its totally this...is there any fix for it?

[buoyant drum]

it looks cool too, but its absolutely cheeks. its sad

[fading dove]

that it gets its damage reduced the closer your cursor is to the terrarian

[tranquil yarrow]

Ain't that a weird caviat.

[prisma jewel]

Guys should I no-hit infernum bosses in order or just the cooler ones first?

[buoyant drum]

do it in order

[fading dove]

try out some easier ones to get familiar with the rules

[prisma jewel]

That makes sense actually

[fading dove]

dont wanna waste 1600 attempts on scal and then have it be invalid

[buoyant drum]

personally i would love no hitting golem, even without trying that hes just so fun

[prisma jewel]

Yeah that'd suck 😭

[celest ruin]

Anyone know how to fix this celestial onion bug?

[prisma jewel]

Scal is so peak too

[fading dove]

eat another i think

[buoyant drum]

we love onions

Profaned Guards #1 infernum fight no contest

[prisma jewel]

Ewww

By default, shadowcal and scal are both peak fights

And empress

[buoyant drum]

true

also true

but we can ALL agree infernum old duke is terrible

cmon

[night fractal]

Just take the dye out and it'll disappear

You already have the slots you're supposed to

[tranquil yarrow]

Unfortunately I am a contrarian. I love dashslop <3

[celest ruin]

Oh I see

thanks

[buoyant drum]

yharon is right there

[fossil saffron]

I like Old Duke

[prisma jewel]

Yk in my og run he was chill, but after fighting old duke on 2xhp 2xdmg, he sucks ASS

[buoyant drum]

at least yharon is good

old duke is just dash central but the bad version

[tranquil yarrow]

That's why I like it lol

It's so ass it wraps around to being good for me.

[buoyant drum]

but Toxic Wisdom

man his theme goes crazy

but hes just so ass

[tranquil yarrow]

Like literally all you have to do is not overextend the moment duke dashes and he ain't shit.

[celest ruin]

What are the best non-summoner weapons to use with Fearmonger armor?

[fossil saffron]

I really really liked Old Duke and then the next two bosses were just ramslop repeats of the exact same thing I already did

[prisma jewel]

Is dog doable without dashes? (No coil strat)

[fading dove]

yeah

[prisma jewel]

Havent seen anyone do it so

[buoyant drum]

i think so

[fading dove]

you've got phos gauntlet

[tranquil yarrow]

Parry, unless you mean full on nothing.

[buoyant drum]

the green one?

[fading dove]

dog in your way? just punch it

[prisma jewel]

Yeah i mean full on just moving to dodge

[buoyant drum]

oh yeah that thing is goated

[fading dove]

and also get a sub minute time while you're at it

[fossil saffron]

it is green for a very special reason

[tranquil yarrow]

Not sure then.

[fading dove]

its green because it wants to punch

[prisma jewel]

I assume bobbit hook can also be used to fight dog with no dash

[tranquil yarrow]

Could also see HoD being used.

[gloomy wedge]

bobbit hook lowkey one of the most broken items in calamity atm

its so stupid

[fossil saffron]

Ok got 5 mins into my infernum playthrough#2 and booted up warframe because pre-boss made my brain melt

[gloomy wedge]

it feels like i have rich mahogany permanently equipped

[prisma jewel]

Bobbit is so fun with the accel

[fossil saffron]

#whoops

[buoyant drum]

wait what is that i forgot

[fading dove]

hook of dissonance

[tranquil yarrow]

Hook Of Dissonance. Queen Slime hook.

[fading dove]

probably not worth

[gloomy wedge]

ok can i be so honest for a second

[buoyant drum]

oh shit

[gloomy wedge]

why does anyone think hook of dissonance is good

i have tried for years to make this thing work

[prisma jewel]

Is that just the astrageldon hook?

[buoyant drum]

wait no that thing is kinda ass

[gloomy wedge]

i think its one of the worst hooks in the game

[prisma jewel]

Like same effect I assume

[buoyant drum]

wait no thats pushing it

its mid

[fading dove]

dissonance is situational

[gloomy wedge]

it removes the thing you use hooks for

yk, the hook cancels

[fading dove]

its very good when it works but it sucks otherwise

for example

lifelight

[tranquil yarrow]

Favorite application of HoD is tping away from the infernum golem laser that traps you in the spike phase.

[gloomy wedge]

i dont have much lifelight experience so no comment on that

[prisma jewel]

Lifelight is a cool boss

[fading dove]

lets you easily counter her phase transition and sweeping beams without having to run something like monk ench

[tranquil yarrow]

But don't trust me this is the woman who has the static hook perma glued on me because I forget to take it off when I do bosses lmao

[buoyant drum]

yeah i like lifelight

[gloomy wedge]

ok tbf

static hook is kind of insane

if you use it right

[prisma jewel]

The champion ver of ll though is cheeks

[fading dove]

static hook i'd say is also situational

[tranquil yarrow]

I love flight resetting with static <3

[fading dove]

a bit less polarising than dissonance

[prisma jewel]

Reminds me of the disgusting kind of people who use the hook for that one providence attack

[celest ruin]

Statis Void Sash or Shield?

[prisma jewel]

Which is free alr without a hook

[tranquil yarrow]

For the crosses?

[gloomy wedge]

which boss

[prisma jewel]

Yeah

[buoyant drum]

which boss u on

[prisma jewel]

Is that the one people call dogma?

[tranquil yarrow]

Yeah it's definitely harder than it looks.

[fading dove]

dogma is the one that looks like dogma tboi

[celest ruin]

Going into Yharom

[tranquil yarrow]

Dogma is the lasers after I think.

[fading dove]

the one with this sound

[prisma jewel]

Ah

[buoyant drum]

if its infernum then the shield

[prisma jewel]

Ohh this attack hit me the most on provi

[buoyant drum]

yharon is ram dash central all day

[prisma jewel]

I dont think I've ever been hit by the cross attack

[gloomy wedge]

if youre goated you know that ramming into yharon means youre playing yharon wrong

[prisma jewel]

Havent done night provi yet tho so

[gloomy wedge]

the best way to fight yharon is to run like a little bitch boy

[fading dove]

fun fact: prov night dogma is the strongest attack in inf

[buoyant drum]

thats crazy cuz i always win when i do that

[tranquil yarrow]

This one attack is probably the one that's ended a majority of my provi runs because sometimes you just get unlucky enough for the lasers to adjust right where you happen to be standing.

[gloomy wedge]

i tried ramming into yharon and died instantly

[buoyant drum]

i like the sound it makes when you hit him

[gloomy wedge]

just ran away for like 6 minutes the attempt after

won immediately

play lame win game

[fading dove]

i like how dogma also blinds you

as seen here

https://youtu.be/hvJwGZhKNoY

[prisma jewel]

I'm a little worried for exos and scal in my run 😭 i dont wanna use draedon heart for scal especially this time so I thunk im cooked

[gloomy wedge]

oh its this attack?

this one kinda free icl

[fading dove]

scal can be made easy if you use the go go gadget kill everything loadout

don't use the go go gadget kill everything loadout

[gloomy wedge]

like if you struggled on guardians which, you did, you played infernum

[buoyant drum]

this the only attack i kinda sucked at dodging the first time around

[gloomy wedge]

you know that one phase 3 attack from guardians

[buoyant drum]

wait you talking about everybody or just him

[fading dove]

idk boss 12 attempts on my first run and 9 on a redo

[buoyant drum]

cuz guardians were easy asf

[gloomy wedge]

wtf

[prisma jewel]

I mean I'm alr playing mage so it'll prolly be similar KT to my initial melee run but I'll die in like 1 or 2 hits

[gloomy wedge]

everyone ive seen struggles on guardians first time through infernum

took me like 30 attempts

[fading dove]

im just kinda good

[tranquil yarrow]

Yeah for sure.

[buoyant drum]

polter is the only one that genuinely pissed me off, and i dont hate him in any other difficulty

[fading dove]

(i struggled on yharon somehow)

[prisma jewel]

And at that point I might as well just no hit scal

[tranquil yarrow]

DoG taking 201 attempts was expected tho.

[gloomy wedge]

...kulve taroth?

[buoyant drum]

as i always say, infernum polter can fuck off

[prisma jewel]

I did, took me somewhere between 21 and 35

[prisma jewel]

Huh 😭

[fading dove]

dog iirc was 50 something

[gloomy wedge]

fuck it im posting it again

[fading dove]

exos were the hardest on my first go around but now i can semi consistently do them

[fading dove]

its all about practise

[buoyant drum]

its funny staring at all the people yell about how dog is "impossible"

[gloomy wedge]

oh yeah and this template has wotg + hotog + catalyst fsr

idk why

[buoyant drum]

polterghast that low is great

[fading dove]

ive gotta keep working on my dog nohit before the fuckin

[tranquil yarrow]

Same. I was struggling so bad it sparked an inside joke to myself that every time I enter post ML I immediately body storm weaver first.

[gloomy wedge]

but i included wotg and catalyst in my palythrough anyways so

[buoyant drum]

i DESPISE HIM

[fading dove]

dash equaliser

[buoyant drum]

not feral amalgamation tho

[gloomy wedge]

feral amalgamation is like

i mean its good

not that good but

[fading dove]

polter's not bad if you make a decently sized arena

[gloomy wedge]

polters not bad if you superradiant

[fading dove]

that too

[buoyant drum]

fr

[fading dove]

2 attempts on a second clear

i think my first polter was also 12?

[buoyant drum]

wait i just realized

why the hell is golem so low

what did he do

[tranquil yarrow]

My first was 7 I think.

[buoyant drum]

my goat

[gloomy wedge]

i fought him with reaver tank and it took like 5 minutes

i was never in any danger of dying

i dont care enough to refight him

[buoyant drum]

nah switch that

[fading dove]

yeah golem is

[gloomy wedge]

he looked like emode golem but kinda different i guess

[buoyant drum]

golem is a great fight

[fading dove]

too tanky and isn't dangerous enough

its a slow fight where nothing happens

[prisma jewel]

Why does provi do so little damage though

[buoyant drum]

ok the too tanky part i get

but other than that golem is fun

[fading dove]

there's one mildly menacing attack and its exclusive to p3

[night fractal]

polter's not bad

end of statement

just win

[fading dove]

everything else is free

especially moonlight ray

[gloomy wedge]

the true melee player fears no infernum polterghast

[buoyant drum]

oh youre such a goofy goober

[night fractal]

true melee players will be eating well against infernum polterghast next patch probably

[gloomy wedge]

cryogen is down there because he just pisses me off

[night fractal]

idk I haven't played infernum polter

[gloomy wedge]

like have you SEEN what fargos dlc guys did to cryogen

god damn i love that shit

[fading dove]

this prison?

[gloomy wedge]

phase 1 alone

[buoyant drum]

FUCK fargos cryogen

[gloomy wedge]

and then infernum is like

[buoyant drum]

nah that one fucking SUCKS

[gloomy wedge]

yup

cryogen

[tranquil yarrow]

I need whatever music they gave permafrost in there. It's so good.

[gloomy wedge]

if you move 2 pixels to the right he goes HABUBDBDABADBUADBAJHDADB and zooms around at mach 12

[buoyant drum]

real, but at the same time the fight SUCKS

[fading dove]

few seconds

[warped canopy]

Someone knows something about this?

[tranquil yarrow]

I like that about him. Encorages the whole stay still thing like ice haha get it until phase 3 where cryo starts dashing at you.

[buoyant drum]

see first i was hating on deerclops, but then i look at cryogen and its just completely different

[gloomy wedge]

could just disable autoreforge and see if it fixes it

[gloomy wedge]

emode deerclops is goated tho

[tranquil yarrow]

Wait this hasn't been uploaded anywhere yet?

[fading dove]

https://youtu.be/lyUkxzQDmfQ

[tranquil yarrow]

Ohhh.

I may be stupid.

[night fractal]

I have peak addon music that hasn't been uploaded to YouTube yet

[fading dove]

there's also irondust as another dlc exclusive track

[gloomy wedge]

which one is that for

[fading dove]

p1 mutant

[gloomy wedge]

oh

didnt get that far in dlc

[fading dove]

i think

[gloomy wedge]

my furthest run died to calclone

[fading dove]

its what the comment says

[fading dove]

not sure what irondustreprologue is

[gloomy wedge]

ive thought about charting this in rotnd a couple times

but unfortunately im dogshit

[night fractal]

chart it in beat saber

I hope someone makes one of those geo dash levels for stargod

[dense ocean]

Miku Hatsune?

[fading dove]

pretty sure its teto

[dense ocean]

Red Miku Hatsune.

[night fractal]

all I know is it popped off idk

allowed for peak to exist

oh goodness the sprite looks so much better now that I figured out how to get an original quality one

kinda yucky in this video

[warped canopy]

I still can't regorge somehow

[grizzled onyx]

what's the music in the background

[gloomy wedge]

.

[wet sparrow]

what yall think are good qol mods for calamity and stuff

[dense ocean]

Magic Storage.

[wet sparrow]

ye i know but like

there are some others that are like day and night and stuff like dat

[dense ocean]

What?

[wet sparrow]

like i saw some mods that skip thru the night

[dense ocean]

Calamity lets you do that.

[wet sparrow]

oh

[dense ocean]

Hell, Terraria lets you do that to a lesser extent.

Calamity's version is getting nerfed in the next update, but again, you can do that already.

[night fractal]

I linked it right before that video

[wraith tapir]

god this providence crystal phase is frying me

im getting fired by the crystal

[still ruin]

Adding thorium might be too much

Damn

Nah

[wraith tapir]

yea im just gonna like analyze how to do this third phase

oh fuck

i accidently killed her wit kevin

FUCK

im just gonna keep fighting her normally

BRO

i hate ts spear phase too

i keep getting wooped

[still ruin]

Just saying

This might be too much

[wraith tapir]

Dude

WHY CANT I BEAT PROVIIII

I GOT 10%

[still ruin]

Oh I love providence

[wraith tapir]

THEN 5

THEN 3

SHE SO EASY YET HARDDD

HER FIRST PHASE AND SECOND ARE EASY

THEN THE DUMBASS CRYSTAL

AND I GET FUCKEDDDD

MY DAMAGE

IS JUST TOO BUNS

[surreal blaze]

came up with a really funny challenge for my next infernum run
i call it
the dnd party challenge (name in progress)
basically
you play summoner
but you cant have duplicate summons, you can only have 1 of each summon at a time (multi-slot summons are aloud)

[silver ore]

https://tenor.com/view/jump-hanging-gif-20498305 h

how it feels fighting wof

[surreal blaze]

nah wof aint that bad

[silver ore]

not even on that high an attempt count

[surreal blaze]

slime god worse ong

[silver ore]

only like 8

[surreal blaze]

just a not great fight cant lie

sm better fights

[silver ore]

but holy shit i hate having to mine out like 500 ash blocks to not make my arena incredibly small

[night fractal]

You'd be surprised how meta this can be at a lot of the game

Now comes the question

Since Kalandra summons 5 different things can you use it multiple times

Or can you use dragon or Mechworm multiple times since they still keep only one being

[silver ore]

it might be because i fought them 10 times to get eldritch tome but slime god is my least favourite infernum boss so far

its really easy for some reason

[surreal blaze]

each summon gets one "use"
so you can summon with each staff once.
so upgradable summons stay in their base form
and u only get 1 kalanda summon

[surreal blaze]

yeah i think post prov its like, meta
but i think like, pre plant ur kinda cooked

and esp pre HM

[night fractal]

nah actually

pre hardmode is where it's most meta

[surreal blaze]

really?

[night fractal]

the more slots you get the worse that'll become

post provi will kinda suck because lol you need to fill 12 slots

[elder nebula]

mfw single vanguard

[night fractal]

6 to Dragonblood Disgorger still leaves you with 6 more to fill

but early game you can abuse the minions with static iframes on top of not needing as many

like, until you kill Queen Bee you only need 3 minions

[surreal blaze]

you got the one with the twin dragons
stellar torus
theres plenty post prov

[fossil saffron]

postprov 12 slot is..

[night fractal]

Torus is kinda super enemy specific

but yeah Tenryu once you're post... Signus?

that plus Dragonblood gets 10 decent slots filled

[elder nebula]

post signut yeah

[surreal blaze]

icl i think the most cooked spot may be super endgame

like post polt and esp post DOG

[elder nebula]

you mean postgame?

[night fractal]

post yharon you'd have what, 16 slots?

Lillies (2)
Kalandra (3)
Mechworm (4)
Draconid (9)
Hydra (10)
MSB

[elder nebula]

oh

[night fractal]

post dog has a lot of minions that are equally good

[elder nebula]

there's saros possession also

[fossil saffron]

postdog

[night fractal]

Kalandra, Saros, Mechworm, Corvid, Hydra, CVE is 13 slots already

[surreal blaze]

honestly overall sounds like a fun challenge run tho
not insanely difficult, but harder than normal
so itll be a fun challenge

[night fractal]

pre dog might be rough

I guess uhh

[elder nebula]

the real challenge is inventory management with 10 fucking weapons

[fossil saffron]

sirius is also there

[night fractal]

Mutated Truffle, Tenryu, Vanguard, Torus, Stabber, Subjugator, Calamari

[fossil saffron]

hi sirius!

[night fractal]

Sirius is REALLY bad

[fossil saffron]

LOL

yeah i know

[night fractal]

but not for long

2.1 Sirius my beloved

[fossil saffron]

“bro do something” the weapon

[night fractal]

restoring you to your former slot scaling glory <3

[surreal blaze]

running the double class setup frfr

[night fractal]

Sirius was actually meta for a little bit and then they changed it from variable slot like Desert Tiger to fixed 6 slots and killed it

[night fractal]

why not just use a loadout for easier swapping

since then you can just push F1 / F2

[surreal blaze]

then i gotta get a second absorber and bla bla bla

[night fractal]

ah fair

[fossil saffron]

getting a second set was so fucking worth it

actually unreal that second loadout saved my ass twice

[surreal blaze]

i just realised ive been carrying feller and tin hammer since day 1 of this run

[fossil saffron]

polter and then scal desperation

[surreal blaze]

my OGs

[gleaming cairn]

oh?

what'd the desp set look like

[surreal blaze]

full tank im guessing

0 damage

like highest def armour, best wings, best tank accessories

full tank

might be worth setting that up icl
just for the funnies

[gleaming cairn]

i mean

you're in auric at that point

[surreal blaze]

i wanna facetank inf provi on teir

[night fractal]

hallowed armor + dodge + scarf clearly

[fossil saffron]

i don’t even remember half of the accessories but yes it was a full defensive loadout

[night fractal]

infernum makes it pretty easy to facetank tbh

[surreal blaze]

guys should i face tank profaned guardians

im so bad at the third phase

[fossil saffron]

[fossil saffron]

If you want to then sure no one is stopping you

[fossil saffron]

It’s funny cuz I went from omega blue on dog to facetanking last phase desperation on scal

ahh the differencesnin the shit i can tank

[surreal blaze]

facetank melee

i just realised

highruler isnt a ram dash

highruler sucks wtf

[grim swallow]

Surely a thing crafted from SoC will become a ram

[elder nebula]

lol

[surreal blaze]

i was doing the exact same timing n it just wasnt working properly

[night fractal]

Hugh ruler is peak

[grim swallow]

You have a 100 defense for 3 hits and 60% dr for 3 hits buttons

[night fractal]

With a bonk you have to use it a little different

you need to hold away from the enemy as soon as you bonk to get max distance for max safety

it also probably is extremely difficult to use on some infernum bosses (dog)

[grim swallow]

High ruler is also probably npt affected by infernum dash reducing

[night fractal]

It should be

but the half cooldown on successful bonk probably isnt

[grim swallow]

I can see high rules being better than rams on od and yhar

[night fractal]

2.1 will finally bring high ruler justice it deserves

[surreal blaze]

what do we rate the stats

[elder nebula]

stat meter 💀

[grim swallow]

Get more regen

[night fractal]

crit is a little low

[surreal blaze]

icl the face tank build might be it

damn i guess face tank melee is goated

i been sleeping on warding so hard

[grim swallow]

Wish infernum had some form to counter absurd defense

Like idk every bods having some defense damage

[night fractal]

yeah Infernum guts the two things calamity has for anti facetank

debuffs and defense damage

[granite bough]

What the FUCK

[surreal blaze]

isnt that like an undertale character or smth it looks like an undertale character(never played undertale)

[granite bough]

okay i need

post ml speed for this fucker

i see

and my yharim™ tier firepower

[snow heart]

how to get reaper tooth in infernum abyss

[granite bough]

I'm going to fucking KILL him

[elder nebula]

suffer

[snow heart]

im just asking a question

[maiden fjord]

kill the reaper shark

[elder nebula]

and i answered

you suffer

that's how to get them

[snow heart]

ok buddy

[wraith tapir]

BRO

IM DONE WITH THIS CRYSTAL

THE LITTLE CROSSES ATTACK

IS IMPOSSIBLE

IM GETTING HIT BY NOTHING

[maiden fjord]

what crystal?
profaned guardians?

[surreal blaze]

stay low to the lava n move up and down while moving across the arena

[wraith tapir]

no

provi

i just got her so freaking low

i just hate how long attempts take

and the fact that im only on 46 is kinda litty

[maiden fjord]

ohh

[surreal blaze]

yeah thats advice for the provi attack

i learnt how to nohit provi last time i tried infernum after so many tries (and a youtube video)
so i kinda remember some of the strats

im able to consistently get to third phase with like, 3 total hits maybe atm n its half 3 in the morning

[wraith tapir]

same

[surreal blaze]

i genuinely think i couldve won the attempt i just did if it didnt turn to night time

[wraith tapir]

i never get hit first phaze

SAMEE

i was gonna beat her

boom

night

one shot death beam

[surreal blaze]

get cosmolight n set it to 4:30 at the start of every attempt

[wraith tapir]

i do

im selling

so hard

i just died to her laser beams

IASDAS"DASKLDJ ASLKd

[surreal blaze]

SAME LMAOO

stop stalking me

icl i might switch to summoner for this fight (except crystal phase)

just cos im confident in dodging her attacks

[wraith tapir]

bro

i might just go full menacing

i just need to lock in on that crystal phaze

then im just locked

[lofty marsh]

infernum pre hard mode is beat ggs

[surreal blaze]

one more attempt and then im off to bed

[wraith tapir]

yay

another lobotomization

by the stupid spear fire attack

[surreal blaze]

where she shoots the spears into the lava n then makes the geysers?

[wraith tapir]

yea

those things

i just get hit by the second spear she throws right after

i just wanna be done with herrr