calamity-addon-talk

[grim swallow]

True melee with booms on hit

And bigger booms when low hp

[lapis hemlock]

There's no such weapon

Oh

Anarchy blade? @grim swallow

[grim swallow]

Yeah

[hearty slate]

That's post plant

[grim swallow]

Oh didn't know

[lapis hemlock]

@hearty slate what else do I use

For shadow clamaitas

[hearty slate]

uhhh

I haven't done melee infernum before

[grim swallow]

There is biome blade

[hearty slate]

Maybe Darklight, I feel like it might be easy to hit her with it, idk

[lapis hemlock]

Ok I'll try

[lapis hemlock]

She moves too fast for the darklight projectiles to take up speed and go hit her

[hearty slate]

nvm then

[raven vapor]

i spent 9 minuites tryna kill anahita and leviathan as the first HM boss

[wicked creek]

Darklight Greatsword is a great option yeah

Pwnagehammer if you can aim it properly is very good too

Personally I used biome blade with the purity attunement as it has homing on its projectiles after you do a true melee hit on her, and it worked fine, but it's not the best option, necessarily

[prisma jewel]

For shadow of cal I used brimlash or darklight, forgot which

[wicked creek]

If you were to go for true melee, subshocker has probably plenty of damage, but true Excalibur would have much better range instead

[wicked creek]

Well brimlash is post calclone

So it'd be pretty difficult to use it for calclone

[prisma jewel]

Oh, must'v e been darklight then

[lapis hemlock]

Isn't the dark light projectiles too slow?

[prisma jewel]

I think I used brimlash for plantera then

[lapis hemlock]

I mean it soeds up over time

[wicked creek]

Nah, only the initial delay is slow but when it speeds up it's fast enough

But, I did give you other options if you would prefer those instead

Biome blade worked fine by me even if it wasn't the best damage wise

[lapis hemlock]

I am horrid at aiming pwnagehammer

[wicked creek]

The homing helped

[lapis hemlock]

I'm gonna try it

Which attubement

[wicked creek]

The purity one, the normal projectiles

They have a property where when you hit something with its true melee, it marks the target and makes the projectiles home in for a while

If you don't wanna bother with true melee or aiming ever, storm saber is still an option too

Its damage is even worse than biome blade but it always homes in really strongly

[lapis hemlock]

Dang alright

[fickle delta]

Need help with infernum multiplayer, heard there was a file i need to throw in my fold er. cant find it

[grim swallow]

Dont think so

Infernum multiplayer works as good as multiplayer terraria can

There are occasional bugs

Usually either guardians not spawning or worms being just a head

I should do infernum but I cant use tmelee weapons

Because on some bosses I dont see a point in not tmeleeing

It also means no drage for thana

And no lion heart for dog

[fading dove]

wondering what other people think of caribbean rum's downside

[grim swallow]

What is it

[fading dove]

warped

well an identical effect

[grim swallow]

Sounds like hell

[fading dove]

personally it makes me dodge better

somehow

[wicked creek]

I mean, that still leaves death's ascension

[dark kindle]

Adrian dodging DoG better after taking the shrooms

[wicked creek]

And exoblade right click stuff for sepulcher

[sullen totem]

empress of light...

[open flower]

@alpine fog

[alpine fog]

Hi

[thin canyon]

i should try

[patent girder]

kett!

[solar saddle]

how to defeat masodeath ml

the curse of the moon debuff is so bad

[fading dove]

curse of the moon's the least important part of the fight imo

[solar saddle]

he deals 30 dmg with my current setup

and the debuff deals 200

[night fractal]

that's probably why it exists

to counteract hyper tankiness

[fading dove]

the worst debuff is the burning from the solar flares

though you should have immunity to it

[solar saddle]

how to make the debuff not that bad

?

like

are there any accesories for that?

[fading dove]

lead ench lowers dot but the slot isnt worth it

[solar saddle]

what here to change?

[fading dove]

valor for verdant doomsayer mask

fishron wings for empress wings

[night fractal]

steampunk wings might be better than fishron or empress

[patent girder]

fr ?!

[night fractal]

depending on your preferences

[solar saddle]

why?

[fading dove]

imo pumpking's cape over aeolus boots for the raw bulk it gives

[night fractal]

if you don't use boots then steampunk would fall off hard though and you'd want Fishron or Empress

[night fractal]

a decent stat spread

They have worse accel but higher top speed (when used with boots)

and just the random stats they give are nice

[solar saddle]

my only problem is the debuff rn

[fading dove]

antibodies is a pretty good all class damage

dubious is some pretty good bulk and is likely better than precision seal

seal really only shines once you get to abom and mutant

[solar saddle]

okay so what to change

[night fractal]

One option would be to swap your healing potions for Hadal Stew or even Mushrooms to get Absorber's debuff purge more often

I assume it works on Fargo's debuffs

[fading dove]

pumpking's cape makes healing potions a bit less impactful due to just how much healing it can give

if you use mushrooms, shroomite enchantment

[solar saddle]

what weapons should i use

[fading dove]

for dlc ml, i usually run grand guardian, phantasm, the swarmer, and the standard 1 terraprisma rest cells

[solar saddle]

ty

this is what the loadout is supposed to look like?

[faint tangle]

I accidentally recorded nine and a half hours of gameplay through steam before I forgot to stop the recording after eulogy for the ego stopped playing

Oops

It just so happened that it also recorded my winning attempts against yharon and exo mechs

[round zealot]

whats the best summoner weapon for yharon?

for me it took 2mins for phase 1 i dont think thats good

[fading dove]

mirror of kalandra

[round zealot]

yes, and second weapons?

[fluid flax]

allat recording software and still took a photo of the monitor

[round zealot]

i used mirror+mechworm last attempt and it felt awful

gotta be something better than mechworm

[nimble wing]

Endo hydra iirc

[round zealot]

okay i will try it out

[night fractal]

Mechworm is definitely better

it's like not even close, but you only really want to spend like 3-5 slots on it

Mirror, Hydra, Mechworm trio is probably the best

[solar saddle]

ts the first attemt i damaged the core 💔💔

[round zealot]

nah endo is WAYYY BETTER

this is mirror+endo

mechworm had 2 minutes for phase 1

endo had 2minutes for full boss

[nimble wing]

WHAT

[round zealot]

i also used cadaverous carrion

[nimble wing]

Infernum Yharon minimum nohit length is like 2:50 btw

This is ridiculous

[fading dove]

were you using like

[round zealot]

im not nohiting lol

[fading dove]

hyper glass

[round zealot]

yea

thats my playstyle

i like skipping hard phases 😄

[nimble wing]

Just giving some context

[round zealot]

yea ofc

3 damage alcohols, flask of holy flames

all the damage buffs

menancing

[fading dove]

yeah inf minimum killtime is 2:40 which is already really fucking fast

[round zealot]

endo is op i guess

[fading dove]

like all the minimum killtimes are really damn fast

like scal's is 3:20

[nimble wing]

Is that really fast or are Calamity killtimes really long?

[fading dove]

the only one i'd say isnt obscenely fast is dog's at 1:40

[nimble wing]

Ofc it’s different with Infernum Scal’s extremely complex structure, but still

[round zealot]

mine took 2:16 with full damage build

how is 1:40 not fast

[fading dove]

yeah thats because summoner sucks for inf dog

[round zealot]

ah valid lol

[fading dove]

standard loadout gets 1:30

[round zealot]

thats crazy

mirror still good post yharon?

[fading dove]

yeah

its the best summon and should have max priority

[round zealot]

alr cool thanks

[fading dove]

well best outside of exoskeleton and postgame

[nimble wing]

How did I take until just now to realize what a stupid joke “Exoskeleton” is

[round zealot]

what wings post yharon? im watching a summoner loadout guide and it says seraph tracers, are they good?

[fading dove]

seraph tracers are used for rungodding ares desp

thats their sole benefit

[round zealot]

also exo mechs or scal first

[nimble wing]

Try them and find out

[fading dove]

up to choice

scal gives scom but exos give exoskeleton and draedon's heart

[round zealot]

i think ill try exo

actually nah ill go scal, i always go scal first

[nimble wing]

Scal also gives enchantments, Calamity, and Sacrifice

[round zealot]

so tracers or wings for scal?

[fading dove]

wings

wings of rebirth have better flight and you're not gonna wanna be on the ground for anything other than resetting flight time or streaming an attack or two

[round zealot]

alr ty

[nimble wing]

To reset flight time you can just grapple anyway

[dense ocean]

Insanity.

[round zealot]

wym

[fading dove]

scal's a bit easier than exos imo

[round zealot]

you think i should exos first?

[dense ocean]

For the culture.

[round zealot]

im not a infernum pro i only beat it once

[nimble wing]

✨ Experiment and Find Out ✨

[round zealot]

okay scal it is

rampart of deitis or sponge

(i cant dodge scal)

[fading dove]

both are good

but if youve only got two slots then radiance and sponge

[round zealot]

alright thanks

[solar saddle]

FUCKAS EYES OF CTHULHU

THE SHOOT SO MANY UNDODGEABLE LASERS

LIKE THE ML ONE AND ONE FROM THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION

[round zealot]

ngl for me king slime was 10x harder than eoc

summons hitting the crystal prolly didnt help tho

[sullen totem]

bawlsi 😇

[patent girder]

NOT my name !

[white needle]

does the world evil matter in infernum

[patent girder]

kinda

crimson better

[white needle]

word up

[nimble wing]

I would have Best of Both Worlds and pick Crimson as main

[white needle]

is that a secret seed w both?

[patent girder]

its a mod

[solar saddle]

FUCKKKKKK RAHHHHH FUCKKKKAKKKAKKKAK

[patent girder]

yeah tbh but still crimson better fr

been there haha

[nimble wing]

What’s making you take this long?

[solar saddle]

the hardness of the boss

its masodeath

im doing good dmg

its just that the boss has half a million health

[gloomy wedge]

Pretty sure you aren’t if it’s taking 5 minutes

You are swapping weapons right

[solar saddle]

yes

[gloomy wedge]

Well that explains why your damage is low, phantasm

Go for blight spewer or spectralstorm instead

Phantasm takes quite a while to charge up

And you need to constantly swap weapons

[solar saddle]

when the class is ranged im dealing the most dmg

so it must be the other weapons

[cedar laurel]

There’s no dragon breath

[faint tangle]

Deerclops just spawned right on top of me because it was midnight and I yelped like a fucking child

Deerclops jumpscare

[fluid flax]

more like queerclops

[faint tangle]

Lesbian Deerclops

What the hell sure

[fading dove]

well one of them probably is

[grim swallow]

Does anyone have the silky solyn jumping gif

[spice pike]

This?

[spice pike]

https://tenor.com/view/solyn-solyn-jump-gif-13752429040086974377

[grim swallow]

Thx

[pastel hearth]

am i tweaking ,is there no arena for providence

[grim swallow]

Have the world been made with infernum

[pastel hearth]

i do

[grim swallow]

And are you confusing left and right

Rightmost side of hell

[pastel hearth]

none

can i copy my world and add the thing

[grim swallow]

Probably

But it is an uncommon bug

Never heard about providence moving her home

[pastel hearth]

hm

[white needle]

she couldnt make rent last month

tax collector is really cracking down

[grim swallow]

Wete other infenrum shits therr

Like as pet pedestal

[pastel hearth]

what?

[thin canyon]

alright

ok what

[grim swallow]

What

[pastel hearth]

uh

[thin canyon]

uhhhhh

[pastel hearth]

uh

[thin canyon]

uhhh

anyway

[waxen tide]

[grim swallow]

Providence came back from vacation

[thin canyon]

farming sand elemental is pain

[heady ridge]

What’s the best mage weapon for water of worlds

Eater

[grim swallow]

Water

[round zealot]

Anyone have tips to dodge tantanos after killing the other two

[grim swallow]

Kill it it can be killed in its desperation

[round zealot]

I know its like dog but he just kills me before i get to the rythm

[grim swallow]

I think its the veering wind?

[grim swallow]

Try to coil him ig

What class are you

[round zealot]

Summoner

[grim swallow]

Okay first question

Are you doing the all draedon combos achievement

[round zealot]

Nah

[grim swallow]

Then why are you doing thana last

The only rhing you get thats useful is draeheart

[round zealot]

Idk seemed easy

What do you recommend?

[grim swallow]

Getting ared last fkr exoskeleton

[round zealot]

I don't even know how the exo mechs work im just tryna complete infernum

[round zealot]

Oh okay

Whats ur recommended order then for first 2

[grim swallow]

Id guess thana ares to melt thana

[round zealot]

Alr ty

[grim swallow]

Also what minion combo are you using

[thin canyon]

guys

pillar

[fading dove]

why is your kscope named after tenshi's sword

[thin canyon]

no clue

ryan gosling

[fading dove]

like it'd make more sense if the sword of hisou was rainbow

but uhhhh

[crystal trellis]

Where do i farm money in fargos in pre hadrmode?

[uncut ocean]

i beat scal second try with summoner... what the actual hell is this class

[fading dove]

gold slimes

[crystal trellis]

Where do i find them?

[fading dove]

you can spawn em

[thin canyon]

throw slime into liquid gold

[crystal trellis]

Ohhh

[fading dove]

they can spawn naturally, albeit rarely in eternity mode

[crystal trellis]

Thx

[modest walrus]

how should i prepare for infernum mechs as summoner and melee multiplayer

[uncut ocean]

make the sky somewhat clear because you'll need to run from Apollo and Artemis' energy ball

actually, if it's multiplayer... hypothetically could one of you run away while the other stays behind as backup?

[modest walrus]

wdym

[fading dove]

mechs are early hardmode

[uncut ocean]

like when they start charging their energy ball, i assume it only targets one of you

[modest walrus]

i mean exo sorry

[uncut ocean]

OH WAIT

[modest walrus]

he was right

[uncut ocean]

OH

oh

[modest walrus]

he was wrong and was right

[modest walrus]

they were right

[uncut ocean]

thanks

[fading dove]

best bit of advice i can give is that fearmonger is absurd

[smoky dock]

fearmongerrrr <3

[uncut ocean]

oh i beat the exos with summoner auric tesla

[fading dove]

classless armour set with slight bias to summoner and mage

[uncut ocean]

i still beat it on first try o_0

mainly cause the silva armour set bonus saved my life

[smoky dock]

don’t mention its bias or else people will think it’s a Forbidden clone

[fossil garden]

why have I only now learnt about this armour set

[smoky dock]

Because it’s pretty obscure

and it isn’t “herhoo big daminch” set so people naturally ignore it

[uncut ocean]

it's p good, i used it against yharon

[grim swallow]

True

[uncut ocean]

given that it's an upgrade to the spooky armour, i always assumed it was just another summoner set

[grim swallow]

Fearmonger has better offensive stats if you multiclass

If you dont like multiclassing its not worth it

Especially when silva exists

[fading dove]

if it was a summoner set then why would it remove the minion damage penalty

[grim swallow]

Silva

[smoky dock]

It’s not

[uncut ocean]

true...

[smoky dock]

It gives allclass damage, allclass crits, and gives minion slots

[thin canyon]

right

[grim swallow]

And some mage stats

[smoky dock]

Just like Mollusk, and Demonshade

[smoky dock]

nobody cares about the mage stats

[fading dove]

walterheisenbergwhite~1

[wicked creek]

[grim swallow]

Actual question
Why is there no extra use for ammo conservation

Its so ass

[thin canyon]

bud has 1.5 mil but someone he has 3.8mil in the image

[fading dove]

because rang*r deserves nothing

[grim swallow]

Fair enough

[smoky dock]

Because resource gathering is not very hard in this game

[grim swallow]

Exactly

Why does ammo conservation exist without any extra benefits

Idk make every 10% have extra crit and damage

Would make it better

[wicked creek]

I think most people are too QOL-rotted to understand just how comfortable it is to not have to replenish their resources mid way through boss attempts

It's not TOO hard for some bullets but for some others it can be quite annoying

[grim swallow]

True but again
Its falls off HEAVILY after mid hardmode

I can understand it in pre hm and early hm

[thin canyon]

i think infernum totally f-ed my server

[grim swallow]

Where getting shit is actually difficult

[thin canyon]

even after having it disabled

[smoky dock]

did you disable the mod after generating the world with it enabled

[thin canyon]

disable after world gen

but the issue is mostly boss

[smoky dock]

WhereIsMySalad

[thin canyon]

how the hell deus spawned with 3.8mil health

and instantly bugged out on rev mode

oh...

i forgot my calamity config was set at 900% hp boost

no wonder it bugged out

😭

yea it was cal config

[smoky dock]

LOL

yeah the calamity config doesn’t work on Infernum for some reason

mystery solved

[fading dove]

my theory is that infernum overrides all calamity hp

[smoky dock]

Most likely

[thin canyon]

tbh

[smoky dock]

It does have some pretty aggressive code for overriding things

[thin canyon]

infernum bosses HP still normal

since they uses their own HP

why she looks stupid

[smoky dock]

omg hatsune miki

[thin canyon]

also

wrath of empress made EoL post ML?

[smoky dock]

What makes you think that

[thin canyon]

this (don't mind the music)

[grim swallow]

Actually is wrath of the empress compatible with infernum/fargo dlc

[thin canyon]

and this

[smoky dock]

probably not

[thin canyon]

i was talking about wrath empress progression, not compatibility

[grim swallow]

Yeah ik

But im asking about its compat

Because hey thats 1 more addon

[thin canyon]

and the extra EoL spawning item is post ML

[smoky dock]

mmmmmmmm

[grim swallow]

I think daytimr eol is post nl

[thin canyon]

i just basically can't spawn EoL with normal items after having wrath empress installed

[grim swallow]

Sounds like its not compatible with infernum or dlc

[thin canyon]

i don't think infernum was the issue

since im not even on infernum diff

and it still happen even without infernum

why the f

[round zealot]

4x mirror of kalandra and 3x yharons kindle staff

[grim swallow]

Best for exos is 1 lilies of finality 1 kindle 5 kalandra remaining with mechworm

Smth along thede lines

Lilies spawn in brimstone crag after yharon

As a block

[round zealot]

okay tyvm

should i use any sentries

[fading dove]

eh

theyre not worth the effort it takes to resummon them

[round zealot]

alr cool

[grim swallow]

I mean you can place od sentries at the bottom

Maybe they will hit 2 shots

But exos are ass for sentry value

[round zealot]

idk how to dodge tantanos w hen theres the twins

[wicked creek]

Infernum?

The phase where they stay attached to him, literally ignore them and dodge Thanatos as you'd do normally

The attack where they do projectiles, you can just ignore thanatos, and the projectiles miss a lot of the time, especially the laser

Which only does 180 degrees

[round zealot]

okay tysm

just beat them but then ares destroyed me since im not used to him as 3rd boss

[wicked creek]

Yeah solo ares is tough

[smoky dock]

ares solo 👎

[grim swallow]

Dont do thana twins as summoner

Not because of difficulty but because you will then have to refight them

With only draeheart as new gear

[round zealot]

wait what

didnt you tell me to do thana twins?

[wicked creek]

Exo box:

[round zealot]

what am i supposed to do then

[grim swallow]

I personally like thana ares combo

[round zealot]

.

[grim swallow]

Yeah

Last as in killed last

Not last choice

[round zealot]

ohhh

so thana ares?

[wicked creek]

Try doing ares twins

Solo Thanatos is the easiest of the trio IMO, and ares twins is just doing circles with just a bit more care

[grim swallow]

True but again

Minions really love to attack ares so you can risk having to refight them for ares desp

Whcih is the only point in thana ares ans thana gets melted

[round zealot]

i just right click twins and im chilling

ill try thana ares

okay thana ares is easy but i gotta learn twins after i beat first two

[wicked creek]

Yeah I suck as solo twins too lol

[grim swallow]

Yeah half the time exo mechs difficulty is solo phase 1 and last mech remaining solo phase before desp

[grim swallow]

Still better than twins last

What the fuck are they doing

[wicked creek]

Nah twins last are easy IMO

[grim swallow]

No not the desp with the energy shit

The part where theg spin like hell

[wicked creek]

The attack beforehand is like, just a modified version of their normal attacks?

[grim swallow]

Yeah

[wicked creek]

They do it twice

And then immediately go to desp

[grim swallow]

Even quicker laser barrage

[round zealot]

okay idk how tf to dodge ares 2 swords

[grim swallow]

Ramming

Or smth

[round zealot]

okay

[wicked creek]

You mean the ones where he does a series of slashes with energy waves, or the slam with like rays of lasers that come afterwards?

[round zealot]

slashes

[grim swallow]

Id guess its series of slashes as that attack doesnt appear on ares solo

[round zealot]

i dodged it this time but dashed into tantanos and died

[wicked creek]

Ah that one is counter intuitive

You can also ram through his swords

[round zealot]

okay cool

thanatos being in the way doesnt help that much tho

[wicked creek]

Mainly just going downwards and trying to dash through his swords, so he kinda tries to rubber band when going towards you, and then dodging to the other side

[round zealot]

alr ty

nah i almost nohit the twins last then i died

at 5%

[heady ridge]

What’s the easiest mage weapon for eater of worlds

[vale heart]

Demon scythe 🥺

[wicked creek]

Grey zapinator technically should work great if you're lucky

Demon scythe is a bit of tier skipping but that will work fine too

[silver ore]

how it feels knowing theres no perferators summon before they're defeated

https://tenor.com/view/brushing-petting-sleeping-feels-good-dog-gif-4550189006046085409

[heady ridge]

How do I get zapinator

[wicked creek]

Traveling merchant

[heady ridge]

Menacing or warding

[wicked creek]

Warding is the strongest overall, but if you want offensive reforges, go for lucky

[dense eagle]

Cysts:

[silver ore]

how it feels knowing theres no on demand perferators summon before they're defeated

https://tenor.com/view/brushing-petting-sleeping-feels-good-dog-gif-4550189006046085409

[heady ridge]

What’s the best mage weapon for hive mind

[wicked creek]

Demon scythe still works

Hellwing staff I found to be good enough for dealing with the minions

Cauldron is also good if you can aim it properly, but it's slow and the projectile arches a lot

[silver ore]

why is demon scythe a tier above eow

[wicked creek]

Because all hell equipment is balanced around being obtained post eater of worlds

[silver ore]

it wasnt really hard to farm with only eye weapons and the hellwing staff cause im a dirty cheater with my reaver shark

oh

[wicked creek]

Or brain

Yeah, it's not hard to get hell gear before those

But it's mostly balanced around being obtained then

[silver ore]

well

makes sense

[heady ridge]

When does the meteor land

[wicked creek]

At midnight after you beat the eater it should land

I don't remember whether or not it's guaranteed the first night to happen, or if it just has a really high chance each night until it happens the first time

[indigo gale]

Nah I ain’t playing on laptop

[normal anvil]

me neither

[warm rock]

am I crazy or is infernum literally easier than revengeance early game

maybe I'm crazy but I find the telegraphed attacks so much better than base calamity that I'm strugglign way less

[normal anvil]

the fights are better choreographed

[warm rock]

yeah

like I was so worried abt the difficulty bc revengeance was def a struggle

and so far I'm through hive mind with no potions

compared to my revengeance run when I had to absolutely minmax everything I could to progress

[normal anvil]

I've beat infernum multiple times by now and still couldnt beat master death for example

anyways

people who don't lag playing wotg please show me your ways

the addon is cool af but it's unplayable after a certain point

[dense ocean]

Get better computer I guess.

[night fractal]

depends mostly on if you're on expert or master

master calamity is in a horrific state rn

[warm rock]

nah I was on expert

finding expert infernum easier than expert revengeance so far

[normal anvil]

brother it is not a hardware issue lmao

as I said a couple of times before it wasn't a thing before solyn

[dense ocean]

Expert Infernum is redundant, since Master Infernum isn't real.
(The patch doesn't make it real, it's an override and shouldn't be counted.)

[thin canyon]

many infernum bosses got their HP tuned down

but their attack is well
harder

take deus for an example

1.1mil on rev total because it splits

infernum throw the spliting out of the windows and only make it has 287k HP but the attacks
hell

[night fractal]

I think Infernum deus also is less susceptible to melting to piercing weapons or something

[thin canyon]

ig so since

you can hit 2-4 on normal deus at once

and also multiple segments

while infer deus there's only 1+multiple segments

[blazing hazel]

can u just fight plantera before mechs?

like whats stopping me from crafting a portabulb walking down to the jungle and beating the plant

[dense ocean]

Nothing.

[blazing hazel]

hmm

interesting'

[dense ocean]

Also not really an addon question.

[blazing hazel]

i was just in this chat already and im not sure what infernum changes

[dense ocean]

Doesn't change progression, only the bosses, except one is moved.

[elder nebula]

wrong

eidolists spawn preboss

[dense ocean]

Oh, there was also that.

But good luck killing them.

It's possible, but come on.

[blazing hazel]

doesnt giant clam become a boss in infernum or am i misrepresenting what someone said

[dense ocean]

It's still a miniboss.

[elder nebula]

it's still a miniboss, just really hard

dreadnautilus might be a boss though but there's no way to confirm

[blazing hazel]

not as bad as infernum king slime imo

[dense ocean]

Oh, yeah, they did make that one a boss of some kind.

[halcyon mortar]

how big is infernum moonlord's arena

[dense ocean]

Pretty big.

[halcyon mortar]

I need dimensions

[dense ocean]

For what purpose?

[halcyon mortar]

arena

[dense ocean]

It makes the arena.

[halcyon mortar]

making it look good

and proper spacing between platforms

[dense ocean]

Platforms?

[halcyon mortar]

platforms

[dense ocean]

For Moon Lord?

[halcyon mortar]

yes?

I can hammer them

or instead of platforms use minecart rails

in any case

platforms

[dense ocean]

Are you sure you need to?

[halcyon mortar]

it would make the fight better

I'm nohitting

[dense ocean]

Ohhhh...

Does Infernum wiki not list it?

[light prism]

good god, i'm going to hate this

infernum Supreme Witch

with only Abigail taking up summoning slots

I hate Sepulcher, it usually takes all of my revives and i basically have to lock in for the rest of the fight

it's either the exo mechs or Scal 🥀

[fading dove]

another soul claimed by "sepulcher is the hardest part of scal" idea

[light prism]

Nah nah Sepulcher is easy WHEN YOU AREN'T USING ABIGAIL

Why did i decide to do this to myself

using Omega Blue armor is so dangerous tbh

[lilac scarab]

Struggling with dealing with infernum Ares, is there a way to reliably dodge his projectiles?

[patent girder]

fmcl

[night rain]

gg ez

tried eternity death, never again.

[scarlet shadow]

i forgor bout the actual last phase 😭

[eternal thunder]

hello i have a question about the calamity overhaul mod with the trials for the murasama has anyone done it recently it seems to have changed

[surreal blaze]

since plant till ML ive been doin super good on attempts, my highest in that period has been 14

i feel like ML will undoubtedly break this streak (infernum)

[patent girder]

idk but most people here dont like calamity overhaul

[gloomy wedge]

dont play cal overhaul

[eternal thunder]

why not

[gloomy wedge]

pins

not only can it destroy your game

[patent girder]

stolen code, buggy mod, other things

[gloomy wedge]

not only is it active malware

not only does it steal everything from other mods

it also just sucks

like all that and you cant even be a 6/10 experience cmon

[eternal thunder]

what do you mean active malware

[gloomy wedge]

if you uninstall overhaul while items from it are in your world, it will corrupt your world guaranteed

[elder nebula]

corrupts yo files

[gloomy wedge]

this is known and has not been fixed by the devs

this means it is intentional

no other mod does this btw

[patent girder]

bit of a stretch but

point stands

[gloomy wedge]

actually no thats an understatement, they REFUSE to fix it

[eternal thunder]

if you make a world with a mod and remove it they all do that

[gloomy wedge]

like they just said no

no they dont

[elder nebula]

no

[gloomy wedge]

they unload the item

[eternal thunder]

thats why they have the missing textures

[elder nebula]

overhaul is worse

it bricks your world

[gloomy wedge]

inventories and stuff are removed but the world itself is totally fine

[eternal thunder]

if i have an item and remove the mod that gives me the item how would the item be there

[gloomy wedge]

overhaul literally destroys your entire world if you uninstall it

[blazing hazel]

who is solyn

[gloomy wedge]

did you install wotg on world creation

[blazing hazel]

ye

[elder nebula]

regular unloaded items and tiles still keep a data code so they can reload if you enable the mod again

[gloomy wedge]

then you shouldve seen her after beating skeletron

[elder nebula]

overhaul does not do this

[cedar laurel]

Missing out on abominationn

[blazing hazel]

ohhh yeaa

[eternal thunder]

why would you ever remove a mod and then add it back later

what would be the point

[gloomy wedge]

a few reasons

like learning that a mod is stealing code from other mods

[elder nebula]

troubleshooting

[eternal thunder]

aint going to lie it aint that deep

[gloomy wedge]

yeah it is

[elder nebula]

it is

[surreal blaze]

or if youve got 2 playthroughs going at the same time..
pretty simple answer there?

[eternal thunder]

its a free mod that anyone could access

[gloomy wedge]

mods are art whether you like it or not

you dont just steal peoples art

thats not how it works

[surreal blaze]

the issue is when you steal it n claim it as ur own

[eternal thunder]

idk its a free mod id get it if it was a paid for thing

[elder nebula]

it's still a shitty thing to do

like

[eternal thunder]

they arent charging £10 for you to play it

[elder nebula]

objectively

[gloomy wedge]

could always ask the stars above team how they feel about their mod getting ripped off for the murasama rework

or how lucille felt about wotg and infernum stuff getting ripped off for various overhaul reworks

[elder nebula]

overhaul is also just very low quality and poorly balanced

[lilac scarab]

If it helps answer my accessories are chalice/aegis/amalgam/purity/wings of rebirth/gauntlet/sponge (all warding) and I’m choosing Thanatos and twins as my first mechs

[gloomy wedge]

yeah like its just a bad mod lol

[elder nebula]

it makes the gameplay experience worse

[gloomy wedge]

i had to play it and it was so bad

it murders every gun in the game for no reason

it REALLY fucking hates true melee

it adds a power generation system for some reason

it adds an avaritia crafting table

its just confusing

btw the power generation works for like 2 things that also accept power cells anyways

[elder nebula]

replace amalgam with uhhhhhh
idk just replace it

[gloomy wedge]

replace amalgam with absorber tbh

[elder nebula]

it nerfs the sponge

[gloomy wedge]

or dark sun ring

[eternal thunder]

it sounds more like you just dont really get the mod so you dont like it

[elder nebula]

are you shitting me

[surreal blaze]

dude

[eternal thunder]

i have played calmity like 15 times already and wanted something added to it

[surreal blaze]

the mod
ACTIVELY CORRUPTS UR FILES.
ITS MALWARE.

[patent girder]

infernum

fargos dlc

[elder nebula]

add a good mod like catalyst or wotg

not overslop

[eternal thunder]

got both of them

[gloomy wedge]

no, i dont like the mod because its actively stealing shit and also relies way too much on luminance and also is malware and also why would you use it over any of the 7 trillion other cal addons

[surreal blaze]

infernum
Wotg
catalyst
fargos DLC

SO MANY OPTIONS THAT DONT BUG UR COMPUTER OR STEAL COD

[gloomy wedge]

or just like, dont play calamity?

other mods exist?

[eternal thunder]

just delete them after and reinstall it

[surreal blaze]

this guyy

[elder nebula]

there's a much easier solution

it's called don't install calamity overhaul

[surreal blaze]

REALLL

[lilac scarab]

Kinda doubt it but is the sea locket worth using? I used it for DoG

[patent girder]

you can play the mod just know nobody here likes it so probhably go somewhere else with it

[gloomy wedge]

not post-dog i would say

you get more value out of other accessories

[eternal thunder]

my question is is it illegal to play calamity overhaul or is this just a matter of crying over something you have tried already

[surreal blaze]

if u like cal overhaul
half the code is stolen from stars above
go play that instead, its an actively cool asf mod

[elder nebula]

it's immoral

[surreal blaze]

and best part !
it doesnt corrupt your PC !

win win situation if u ask me

[cedar laurel]

Doze’s calamity melee overhaul best

[elder nebula]

true

[gloomy wedge]

if you want to support mods that steal all their cool shit from other better mods that have teams that actually care about making good mods, go keep playing overhaul

[gloomy wedge]

-# its a lot better but honestly i still wouldnt play stars above lmao

[lilac scarab]

I also have access to splendor jam from Goozma mod but I’d kinda prefer not to use it so I could get a more standard infernum experience

[surreal blaze]

i played it with friends n its p fun
it doesnt work great in multiplayer but its still a cool mod imo :D

[gloomy wedge]

personally i just think all the weapons are way too complicated

there are no simple weapons in the mod

[surreal blaze]

idk if id do it again but its atleast worth a playthrough

[gloomy wedge]

everything has like two cooldowns

[surreal blaze]

yeahh

[gloomy wedge]

and a right click effect

[elder nebula]

genshin impact combat system

[lilac scarab]

I haven’t played SA in a bit

[eternal thunder]

to me the stars above looks like some rpg slop imo

[elder nebula]

don't abbreviate it like that

[gloomy wedge]

ah yes the mod with years of effort behind it is slop while the mod that steals everything from that mod is not slop

[surreal blaze]

yeah it deffo is a mod of all time
definately feels like those indie game passion projects that the devs put wayyy too much into cos they loved devving it

[surreal blaze]

abbreviating stars above is like abbreviating cyberpunk

DONT DO IT

[lilac scarab]

Hahaha

[elder nebula]

hypixel skyblock has the "shadow assassin chest plate"
that people abbreviate constantly

it's bad

[surreal blaze]

hypixel skyblock player spotted
therapist called

[elder nebula]

thank you

please help

[eternal thunder]

its just my opinion dont shoot the messenge

[elder nebula]

your opinion is shit

ngl

[surreal blaze]

yeah

[gloomy wedge]

truth

[surreal blaze]

some opinions dont deserve to exist

that is one of them

[lilac scarab]

I don’t think people would be upset if the mod didn’t steal from others and just be a mess

[gloomy wedge]

yeah if it was just a bad mod

couldnt care less

entropy exists and its kinda dogshit from what i can tell

but it seems to be all original

[surreal blaze]

but it steals, and breaks ur pc (intentionally)

[gloomy wedge]

so like i dont really care

[eternal thunder]

yeah but it has no downsides if i just redo the files when im done with it

[lilac scarab]

I know it breaks worlds/characters but how does it break your pc?

[viscid badger]

"the malware that stole code isn't malware if I just restore my computer!"

[gloomy wedge]

exaggeration

[viscid badger]

this MIGHT be ragebait chat

[surreal blaze]

that you know of.

a mod that actively corrupts files (that is known and actively not patched)

i personally wouldnt trust it. just me

[gloomy wedge]

to my knowledge overhaul doesnt actually affect anything outside of terraria

though at this point i wouldnt be surprised if it did

[surreal blaze]

yeah

[eternal thunder]

this just sounds like mod racism

[fading dove]

its contained but it still does intentionally damage files

[surreal blaze]

WHAT

mods

ban this guy

like actually

idc

[lilac scarab]

I feel kinda bad I did a playthrough with it for the Murasama rework and it was actually fun but holy shit does it get op

[fading dove]

this is true

[lilac scarab]

This was a while ago before I knew about stolen code and whatnot

[eternal thunder]

this guy gets it people can like different things

[gloomy wedge]

murasama rework to me feels like a cheat weapon put in the game so devs can blaze their way through every boss as fast as possible

like the old zapinator

[cedar laurel]

Unofficial cal whip be more balanced than cal overhaul

[surreal blaze]

i mean you didnt know, and im guessing after you found out it was like
"yeah nah fuck this" type shi

[eternal thunder]

ngl isnt that the same thing witht the razorblade typhoon in the offical game

[surreal blaze]

unironically tho

[viscid badger]

the mod wouldn't even be bad if it didn't STEAL CODE 😭

[fading dove]

???????????????

[lilac scarab]

Yeah I got rid of it

[gloomy wedge]

no its not even the best mage weapon for any fight

bubble gun and nebula blaze are both better iirc

[fading dove]

razorblade typhoon is decently strong but 1.0 zapinator was genuinely like preml in power back when skeletron was last

[surreal blaze]

razorblade is just easy to use

[viscid badger]

nono see chat homing weapons are too op

[eternal thunder]

yeah but the razorblade typhoon requires no brain cells to use has homing no settup and can get it right at the start of hardmode

[gloomy wedge]

do you beat fishron at the start of hardmode regularly

[fading dove]

its intended post golem

[gloomy wedge]

i dont and ive played this game for a decade

[cedar laurel]

Killing Duke pre much requires brain cells gng

[fading dove]

its balanced around post golem

[eternal thunder]

yeah normally ill do a crimson world and do mage

[surreal blaze]

i mean yeah if you do fishron early
but that requires being good at the game

in which case you can probably use bubble gun much better at that point

[fading dove]

also yeah bubble gun is way stronger

[eternal thunder]

if its master mode ill get the black spot mount

[surreal blaze]

icl ive not rlly played mage
like at all

[grizzled onyx]

although there was a time you could use murasama as soon as you started the game

[surreal blaze]

prob played cal rogue more than mage

not even probably
i just have

[grizzled onyx]

if you named yourself a certain name

[gloomy wedge]

yeah but that was an easter egg and shouldnt be counted

[grizzled onyx]

fair enough

still ridiculous

[lilac scarab]

Yeah I did it with infernum too and I remember being able to deflect the Twins charges and then when you unlock that screen nuke thing it shits all over exo mechs

[vital mulch]

Jetscream Bam

[surreal blaze]

idk why they removed that

like ik its a whole "stupud unbalanced mega brr"
but its a silly easter egg

[fading dove]

no real reason to have it

[grizzled onyx]

no reason to have it besides funny

[elder nebula]

for the funny

sometimes you just need a funny

[surreal blaze]

infernum twins is unironically one of my favourite boss fights

[lilac scarab]

Omg same

[surreal blaze]

yeah i guess
big mod, minimising code n stuff is a not bad idea
but like
funni

[elder nebula]

i like infernum hivemind don't send me to the gulag pls

[surreal blaze]

ur going to siberia

infernum hive mind is weirddd

[eternal thunder]

i got sent for liking overhaul youll be next

[gloomy wedge]

dw man i do too

[surreal blaze]

its not that you "like" it thats the issue
the issue is that youve been told numerous issues with it and proceed to ignore us is the issue
it isnt your opinions
its your attitude

[lilac scarab]

Yessir

[eternal thunder]

yeah but if its going to DEMOLISH my whole save their aint much i can do about that been playing for over a month

[surreal blaze]

based teirlist

except Ceasless void
put that shit in F- teir RIGHT NOW.

its cool
dont get me wrong

i just HATE itt

[gloomy wedge]

cv's a very experimental fight and i appreciate that

[elder nebula]

what do you have against weeber

[surreal blaze]

were not saying "stop playing immediately or u die"
granted, its prob not the worst idea, but you do you

were explaining why the mod as a whole is a project that DOESNT deserve support, and recomending to you to avoid it in the future, due to many issues with it.

[gloomy wedge]

BECAUSE DOZE KILLED MY GRANDMA OK

(i just feel nothing towards him)

[elder nebula]

fair

[surreal blaze]

fair enough
it trips me out beyond beleif tho

[elder nebula]

i like the bullet patterns

they're unique

[elder nebula]

you can enable normal camera in the config

[surreal blaze]

wall and cryo do NOT deserve to be below EOW btw

[gloomy wedge]

wall definitely does

thats one of the worst fights out there

[elder nebula]

infernum wall is the worst boss i've fought in my entire life

[gloomy wedge]

its not as actively painful as something like polter or old duke

i just feel nothing

[elder nebula]

i could LITERALLY beat it with my eyes closed

[surreal blaze]

i may do that

but honestly as much as it trips me out
i like playing the intended way

[gloomy wedge]

ill take a boss that makes me aggressively angry over a boss that makes me feel quite literally nothing

and this is the final boss of pre hardmode

[eternal thunder]

yeah tbh i probably wont play it again i usually swap mods around every playthrough just wanted a rouge like based playthrough where i only use 1 weapon as it slowly upgrades meaning i can do building and decoration at the same time and not have to get 5 new weapons after every boss

[gloomy wedge]

and when i see how amazing fargo's wof is

and how bad infernum wof is by comparison

it juat makes me sad

[surreal blaze]

i mean yeah it is super easy icl

but id rather wall over eater
i feel the way yall do abt wall abt eater

its not difficult
its upsetting
and so poorly designed as a fight

[elder nebula]

eater fucking destroyed me bro

[gloomy wedge]

also i should note

brain is only above E because of the music

my god that theme is so fucking good in infernum

[surreal blaze]

id put my bottom 3 as like

wall
destroyer
EOW

i DONT LIKE WORMS

so many worm bosses are so boring

[gloomy wedge]

although i will say

wall could be a lot worse

WALL COULD BE INFERNUM ARES

[eternal thunder]

wormhater42 over here

[surreal blaze]

bruh

[gloomy wedge]

the only reason inf ares isnt the worst boss ive ever fought in a video game is because ive played ds1

and bed of chaos is worse

but holy shit this guy makes exos go from a decent but underwhelming fight

into an agonizing torture chamber of despair

[glass quest]

opinions on infernum prof guardians?

[gloomy wedge]

very good fight

[surreal blaze]

infernum scourge (both of them tbf) are the exception
those fights

mwah, magnifique !
not insanely difficult or bullshit, but not super easy, and super interesting

[gloomy wedge]

very very good

[elder nebula]

flappy bird

[glass quest]

been struggling a lot on this now

such a huge jump of difficulty

[gloomy wedge]

class?

[glass quest]

mage

[gloomy wedge]

dw everyone struggles on them a LOT

[surreal blaze]

cool asf fight
makes me wanna punch my monitor

but COOL ASF FIGHT

same with prov, both of those fights SUCKK but are SO FUCKIN COOL

[gloomy wedge]

ah shit i forgot what mage used for that point

[glass quest]

honestly the first flappy bird shi is making me want to destroy my desk

[gloomy wedge]

i think asteroid staff?

[surreal blaze]

the worst part is thats by far the easiest part of th fight

[glass quest]

been using effervescence

[glass quest]

yes but this gets in my mind lmao I get so pissed off when I die that I mess this up then I get even more pissed

damn my anger issues kicking in this boss rn I dont think I can do ts under 100 att

[grizzled onyx]

i think its alright

[surreal blaze]

baring in mind havent fought the WOTG bosses
or the final 3 base cal bosses in infernum

my top 3 is like

twins
providence
skeletron

EOW sucks wdym "alright"

[grizzled onyx]

i like the splitting concept

the fight itself is rather mid

[surreal blaze]

are we still talking infernum fights or base cal

[grizzled onyx]

infernum

the tier list is for infernum

thats why i ranked deerclops where it is

[grim falcon]

dissing my boy draedon like that

[surreal blaze]

EOW in infernum barely has "splitting" wdym

it removes all the soul from the original concept
its just mid

its such a boring fight

[grizzled onyx]

no sane person would rank deerclops anywhere near that high if it was anything but infernum

[tiny patio]

Well trying to figure out how exactly you’re supposed to fight the aquatic scourge in get fixed boi.

[grizzled onyx]

hug him

[surreal blaze]

can i get the link for this btw

[grim falcon]

also goozma shouldnt be that high up imo

goozma isnt great atm

[gloomy wedge]

literally if ares wasnt there he would be like high B

ares alone makes the fight the worst fight in all of modern modded terraria

[tiny patio]

Time for operation, hug a giant worm

Problem.

Worm is too fast

Can’t hug worm if worm is zooming.

[surreal blaze]

anyone got any tips for infernum ML?
any classes/loadouts or whatever idm grinding

[grizzled onyx]

he's running away from warm hugs

[grizzled onyx]

swarmer is pretty good

[surreal blaze]

alchemist NPC mod makes grinding sm easier so
(ik some people have.. opinions on QOL mods but idcc im not here for that i wanna fight big boss n shi)

[surreal blaze]

mage IS the only class i havent beat a boss with yet

[gloomy wedge]

very unoptimal

[glass quest]

tbh Ive been using so many QoL that I felt guilty in this playthrough. Maybe if I manage to finish this infernum playthrough I will try to atleast remove AlchemistNPC

[surreal blaze]

i have like
alchemist NPC and magic storage

then ofc like recipie browser blablabla

the only other mods im running that might change the way the game is played is ranger expansion and whip addon (both of which icl ive barely used)

[fading dove]

maso deer is quite tasty

[glass quest]

I will try to remove alchemistNPC so I can make fishing useful

otherwise I would only do it for tier skipping which is kinda sad

[grizzled onyx]

how so

[fading dove]

fast

[grizzled onyx]

oh god

let me guess if you go in the air it camps your landing

[glass quest]

never heard of those mods

[surreal blaze]

i never imagined tanking in infernum to be that viable
i always go max damage
(might be why i struggle sm lmao)

all menacing

[glass quest]

btw can yall tell me what to change here

pre profaned guardians**

[surreal blaze]

using solar weapons + exaulted oathblade

[elder nebula]

starboard over mantle

you can upgrade to statis ninja belt i think

[gloomy wedge]

thats why youre losing, probably

always go for defense

[surreal blaze]

ya see
i could
or i could just not get hit

[elder nebula]

yeah damage builds are generally much worse than defense builds

[surreal blaze]

if i dont get hit defense doesnt matter

[gloomy wedge]

lets be honest youre getting hit

[surreal blaze]

true.

ill try switch to warding rq n see if that helps much

[glass quest]

should I go full warding on mage?

[gloomy wedge]

yes

[glass quest]

(im losing my mind already)

[gloomy wedge]

theres no class where full warding isnt the best option

the only time you would want damage reforges is against dog, where your defense couldnt matter less

[elder nebula]

stealth rogue

but that's it

[gloomy wedge]

doesnt stealth rogue still generally prefer warding

[surreal blaze]

stealth rogue my beloved

[gloomy wedge]

or is silent THAT much better

3 silent 4 lucky i should say

obv full silent is suboptimal

[surreal blaze]

is lucky better than menacing?

[glass quest]

yo thx i didnt notice that

[elder nebula]

yes

[surreal blaze]

noted

[elder nebula]

but still worse than warding

[surreal blaze]

gonna do stealth rogue cos i love it sm fr

[fading dove]

https://youtu.be/3h3Q33HM05w?t=68

only tanked head because of warding

warding is still huge even on inf dog

[gloomy wedge]

personally i way prefer dr or weirder forms of reducing head damage

i still have high def builds to swap to during laser web/grid tho

thank you 1.4.4 i love loadouts

[gloomy wedge]

like sealocket, amalg brain, blazing core

[surreal blaze]

stealth roqgue time :D

[scarlet shadow]

rogue can have about 2 dodges post-Polter and a better RoD

unironically best class for inf dog

[night rain]

oh well isnt maco death wonderful

[surreal blaze]

i gave in and switched to warding

[elder nebula]

can i give some recommendations

[surreal blaze]

sure

[smoky dock]

is it about the special inventory slot

[elder nebula]

no?

[elder nebula]

first: are you post cultist

[surreal blaze]

special inventory slot?

[surreal blaze]

yes, doing ML (havent done deus)

[elder nebula]

get fishron wings and replace treads with absorber

replace blood pact with ambrosial ampoule

[surreal blaze]

ok

[smoky dock]

There's a special, dedicated inventory slot for Blood Pact

[elder nebula]

oh yes i nearly forgot

the trash slot

anyway you should also replace charm of myths with something

perhaps celestial shell

[night rain]

booooooooo🍅 🍅 🍅

[smoky dock]

perish

[night fractal]

blood pact pops off ngl

... but mostly just when paired with Chalice

blood pact and chalice is an incredibly strong synergy

[balmy vale]

where is the storm maiden spear after beating exo and supreme calamitas i cant find it around spawn

[surreal blaze]

whats the best melee weapon to use for infernum ML? atm ive got exalted oathblade + solar weapons

[grim swallow]

Its during rain

[balmy vale]

thank you

[surreal blaze]

might break another thing i never do and do yoyo

[wraith tapir]

im infernum do i fight twins first or another mech b oss

im maghe

[surreal blaze]

twins is easiest imo

[wraith tapir]

i cannot beat them for some reason

like idk why

[surreal blaze]

try prime

destroyer sucks first

[wraith tapir]

i get them to final phase

then just get fucked

because they get 5k hp

should i be using the weapon cryogen drops?

[surreal blaze]

which one
he drops many

but probably yes

[wraith tapir]

the mage one

[surreal blaze]

theyre all good

[wraith tapir]

ok

[surreal blaze]

i think

never played mage but id assume its good

[gaunt igloo]

as a mage should I be wearing 2nd tier hardmode armor or mollusk armor against aquatic scourge

[surreal blaze]

prob orichalcum

[gaunt igloo]

what mage weapon should I use too? Ive been using the cryogen mage one

[gaunt igloo]

as annoying as it is to get, I got the best results with the orange zapinator

[surreal blaze]

deus is cool asf damn

[median kiln]

OK I DID IT??????????????

[surreal blaze]

mann those lasers spin wayy to fast tho

[surreal blaze]

ggs

[median kiln]

loadout was a void edge and bloodflare armor

i have to say

[surreal blaze]

noice

[surreal blaze]

wait i just remembered basic geometry

[smoky dock]

!!!

[surreal blaze]

basic geometry beat astrum deus !!

[smoky dock]

rare instance of self awareness

good work!