calamity-addon-talk

[fading dove]

saucers function similarly to wof and ml

they spawn as one entity that then summons others

[lilac scarab]

Alright I’ll try it out when I get home

[fading dove]

please do not use ampoule and omega blue together

[lilac scarab]

Also wouldn’t reaper tooth necklace be better than badge of bravery?

[dense ocean]

Reaper tooth isn't all that amazing usually.

[fading dove]

imo ascendant over bravery

[idle wraith]

im stuck on infernum DoG, im using stellar torus staff and king of constellations tenryu, should i use something else?

thats my armor and accesories

[waxen tide]

use elysian wings

[waxen tide]

try virid vanguard or calamari lament instead of tenryu

[idle wraith]

my peak DPS with stellar and tenryu is like 30k, will i have more with virid vanguard or calamari lament?

[waxen tide]

dps is not a perfect metric to check whats good or bad
but virid vanguard and calamari should be better and more consistent than torus
I think torus is better when you coil dog though

[idle wraith]

alright im going to try it out

[unique meteor]

did infernum get nerfed

[fading dove]

nah

[unique meteor]

ty

[fading dove]

you've just gotten better

[unique meteor]

guess fargos trained us too well

[fading dove]

last change to infernum ai i think was like

late 2023

[lethal oxide]

I noticed this, does anyone know if its a dlc thing

[unique meteor]

damn

[fading dove]

outside of the one bugfix to night prov last year

[unique meteor]

still sad about the cryogen rework

[light prism]

My best attempt against Dash Simulator, with only Abigail, honestly i'm not dealing any damage through abigail.

[fading dove]

its in base souls

[fading dove]

her ai speed used to scale twice at night, leading to her being significantly faster than she shouldve been

[lethal oxide]

oh, I found it. I didnt realize there was a toggle for the doomsayer mask minion stuff

[idle wraith]

i got 13 summoner slots how many virid vanguards and how many calamari should i use?

[waxen tide]

virid vanguard OR calamari lament

[fading dove]

what boss

[waxen tide]

dough

[idle wraith]

alright so torsu and vanguard OR calamari

how many tho

[waxen tide]

tenryu + vanguard

[nimble wing]

pretty much all souls accessory effects can be messed with in here

[median kiln]

is it better to get gaels greatsword and fight exos or exoblade and do scal

or could i just use

something else instead

[lethal oxide]

I noticed a lot has changed, I han't played souls in maybe a year

[median kiln]

infernum

[waxen tide]

exos for exoblade imo

post yharon melee is more than good enough for exos

[nimble wing]

souls 1.7, which made a bunch of pretty big changes and added cursed coffin, released in november 2024
souls 1.7.2, which made a handful of big changes, released ~early 2025

[lethal oxide]

I played the cursed coffin update, just to see the boss and maybe 2 times between that and banished baron

[nimble wing]

and now we're getting decently close to releasing a bigger update

(by "we" i mean i'm a fargo's tester)

[fading dove]

"a bigger update"

[lethal oxide]

[nimble wing]

i probably did understate it yes

i'd actually talk about what it does, but i don't remotely remember what of it is public

[fading dove]

deflation

abom attack getting replaced

[fiery mango]

removed Deviantt 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[fading dove]

you're getting executed

[waxen tide]

crazy stuff

[light prism]

New PB with only Abigail, ima win before 60 attempts no doubt

I might switch out Heart of the elements

[dense ocean]

Makes sense.

[light prism]

i wonder why Abigail gets such crazy dps when an adrenaline is popped, 50k dps when you just had barely 2000

[waxen tide]

guh

[nimble wing]

what the barnacles

[nimble wing]

is this really only abigail or is it elysian aegis?

[light prism]

i did use old duke sentry but that was out of range at the time and the only other accessory that summons minions that i have is Profaned Soul

[light prism]

wait elysian aegis is buffed by adrenaline?

[fading dove]

its buffed by melee damage and highest class

[nimble wing]

elysian aegis does so much damage on its own that infernum dog dies to it alone in less than the base dog killtime

since you ram him constantly and all

[fading dove]

based on my estimates its possible to get below inf dog mnl with all damage coming from elysian aegis

[nimble wing]

mnl is like 1:20 for context

[fading dove]

1:40

[nimble wing]

forgor

[fading dove]

no omega blue tentacles, no slagsplitter, no ambergris

[light prism]

oh my god

[fading dove]

it requires

very good movement

[light prism]

moonlord took me forever to defeat with only Abigail 😭

[fading dove]

and perfect play

[nimble wing]

what if i do infernum dog true melee nohit except it's actually elysian aegis only

[fading dove]

i will power creep you

[light prism]

DoG no weapon

[nimble wing]

could contribute to what my plan is/was for that nohit

[fading dove]

because im already working on that, but with a bonus piece

lava chicken broth 🤤

[wicked creek]

Well idk if it was nohit but yardis did a copper shortsword DOG only.... With elysian aegis

He said it in the video too but of course he'd name it copper shortsword only

[nimble wing]

the plan is to style on him like there's no tomorrow, executing every ram method i can think of plus the occasional gauntlet bonk, and make the music Divine Beast Dancing Lion

i should pick up the journey again but i've had other occupations since AD

[fading dove]

this has given me motivation to hurry up on actually beating this nightmare

havent seen p3 after 947 attempts

[light prism]

I dread to fight the Exo Mechs and Yharon

[wicked creek]

What difficulty

[light prism]

infernum, Abigail and Elysian Aegis only

[wicked creek]

God help you

I'd worry more about sepulcher tho

[fading dove]

sepulcher is easily the hardest part of inf scal normally but here

i think it'd be the easiest

[light prism]

with the help of accessory summons ig and now sentries because i couldn't kill Profane Goddess in time without it

[fading dove]

sentries for time limited bosses

prov is the last time limited boss

[light prism]

I'm gonna use Blue Omega Armor for the first time ever

[waxen tide]

overkill smh

[vernal bloom]

I never felt I needed it

I get it's more damage but eh

I did DoG fine without it

[light prism]

I don't get any real damage besides using the Aegis just because i'm playing Abigail only

[waxen tide]

abyssal madness though🤤

setbonus better than any on tier yoyo smh

[light prism]

YEAH SO Blue Omega armor is truly overkill bro, jesus christ, i got hooked up on peak, i gotta use this for the rest of my playthroughs

[nimble wing]

wait what the barnacles are you doing

[light prism]

I ran into my area wall right after the rapid dash and teleport phase

[waxen tide]

the armor did cut the killtime in half

[light prism]

The time difference between Blood Flare and Omega Blue armor is CRAZY

[brisk geyser]

can sand elemental spawn in corrupt desert?

[waxen tide]

yeah

while sandstorm

[wicked creek]

Yeah omega blue has better offensive stats than any armor except demonshade. Unless you're stealth rogue or summoner then it kinda sucks

And the tentacles are really nice too

[solemn ice]

hes finally dead 😭

[normal anvil]

my summons and whip keep being despawned because the game is probably hitting its projectile limit, can i increase that somehow?

[hearty slate]

Your minions might be going outside the world border, that causes them to despawn

[normal anvil]

considering im fighting infernum dog, that might actually be the case lmao, thanks

[night fractal]

yeah that's probably it

Projectile limit is 1000

and it cannot be raised

[light prism]

i'm summoner but becase of only using Abigail as my summon, I actually benefit from the armor set

[haughty herald]

how am i looking for DOG infernum

[grizzled onyx]

especially if you have a nuke option like supernova or dragon rage

[fading dove]

not enough omega blue

or miracle fruit

or elderberry

[faint arrow]

I love how janky some of Infernum's enrage mechanics are

[fading dove]

i like the hunters enrage

green mode 🥰

[faint arrow]

like Primordial Wyrm doesn't enrage outside the abyss, Plantera doesn't enrage outside the jungle, and Aquatic Scourge doesn't enrage outside the sulfur sea

some of these are super fun to tinker with, in arena construction haha

cuz my new favorite Plantera arena is to summon her then just fight her in the underworld.... Aquatic Scourge, as long as you have a mini-sulfur biome (I would need to check how possible that is) you can fight it without sulfur poisoning being an issue at all, and Jared you can summon and then just fight anywhere in the world as well, as long as you don't go so far as to despawn him

[light prism]

what should i place in my last 2 slots, i don't have any need for summon accessories because Abigail cannot keep up with DoG

[fading dove]

time to get back to the grind

second attempt back

[smoky dock]

what's this for? abigail only DoG nohit?

[light prism]

uhhh i don't plan on no hitting but if i happens hey that means i got lucky

it's just abigail only run lol

on infernum ofc

can't make it too easy

[smoky dock]

then imo drop everything barrnig the elysian accessories and go omega blue fat strats

PSA is okay

[fading dove]

fucked up on number 9 again fuck

[smoky dock]

i'd go for Absorber, Bloodflare Core, Amalgamated Brain, Cherished Sealocket, and Affliction

become morbidly a beast

[fading dove]

pre dog bulk lookin pretty good

[smoky dock]

[light prism]

looking great

[fading dove]

liver lookin just as hot

[smoky dock]

do u have old fasdhioned

[light prism]

Wait why bloodflare core?

[smoky dock]

bfc is considered 'direct healing' and thus bypasses Omega Blue's regen lock

Its use case is to improve recovery from well spaced hits at the cost of your ability to survive chain hits

But chain hits are already lethal on DoG and every other hit is well spaced, so

[outer path]

Why do lots of people really not like infernum exos, sure they are far from perfect and some of their attacks suck but it's still mostly good imo.

[night fractal]

Maybe Slagsplitter Pauldron and Reaper Tooth Necklace?

if you're willing, try holding Psycho Knife (but not swinging it) for the insane melee dmg boost. Make sure to, while holding Psycho in full stealth, right click on and off one piece of omega blue any time you respawn so the tentacles spawn with full psycho dmg

[light prism]

nah too much work lowkey

[night fractal]

It will make you deal like 3x the damage

[wicked creek]

Imo it's a really good fight tbh, but they're polarizing mostly because of how long they are, I believe?

Like some people think they got too many phases and shit

[fading dove]

if i had the real estate im sure that the dash override would be useful

[solemn ice]

umm

i dont have the profaned garden in my world

time to make another world to kill it...

[light prism]

I was hoping for the fight to be under 60 attempts but tbh this isn't bad

[maiden fjord]

Astrageldon - Attempt 199 - nohit [start from phase 1]
1:49 - 80.12%

Astral Armor set
Entropic Claymore + 1 Terraprisma + 3 Stardust Cells

Bloody Worm Scarf
Empress Wings
Asgard's Valor
Destroyer Emblem
Fire Gauntlet
Celestial Shell

[smoky dock]

nohit with bws?

[maiden fjord]

ye

what should I swap to then?

[light prism]

wtf should i do, against yharon???

it's just a endurance fight if anything

[maiden fjord]

someone asked me to ditch both angel treads and insignia. so they're telling me that even if I start from phase 1?

nova slimes and blight stone still gives me trouble

[smoky dock]

A mobility accessory (like soaring insignia) or offensive accessory better suited to what you're doing (like avenger emblem)

If you're specifically going for the scythe, then you can use Amalgamated Brain

The scythe considers a 'flawless kill' as beating the bad guy without your HP ever dropping below 100%

[maiden fjord]

okay

[pure coral]

(ragnarok) The borian strider will not drop fangs

i have seriously fought him 100+ times that is not an exaggeration

[noble summit]

When does bloodstone drop

[fading dove]

post prov

[gloomy wedge]

correct

your most optimal strat against yharon is to play like a little bitch

run as far as you can

do not engage

if he gets close to you get as far away as you can in any direction

worked amazing for me

[smoky dock]

wha

if you run away too hard, you might get unfairly hit

[loud ibex]

how do i enter bereft vassal portal in multiplayer

i remember the pause tech but obvisouly taht wouldnt work in multi

[elder nebula]

you literally just can't

[loud ibex]

is ml even playable in multiplayer infernum lol

[modest walrus]

me any my freind have been struggling on infernum yharon, are there any tips that could help, we are melee and ranger

[torpid axle]

where do i go from planting the antiseed?
(calamity wrath of the gods)

[elder nebula]

try talking to solyn

[torpid axle]

just about the rain

ok now shes reminiscing about her life before

and how things aren't the same anymore

also does the rift get bigger over progression? because i swear it's bigger than when it first showed up in the skybox

[torpid axle]

i noticed theres something about draedon, i'll try to get to the exo mech fight

[prisma berry]

infernum defiled is going well

[grim swallow]

Unless infernum got even buggier he is we did a run this summer

[grim swallow]

✅

[torpid axle]

ok thanks waltuh

[grim swallow]

Tbh just progress for now
You will find out when smth is available

[prisma berry]

beat exo mechs get endgame gear then summon draedon

[torpid axle]

ok should i go along boss checklist order?

ooooooooooh ok it makes sense now

[prisma berry]

scal/exo mechs are doable in either order but yes

[torpid axle]

the XG-07 Mars description explains it

[modest walrus]

me any my freind have been struggling on infernum yharon, are there any tips that could help, we are melee and ranger

[grim swallow]

Okay first thing about yharon: combo dashes

In p1 he does double dashes

Use sound cues to ram the second

Next thing send build and ask the other person for their build

[modest walrus]

k

i cant get a screenshot atm

godslayer armor

blood chalice, aegis, tracers, gauntlet, nebulous core

amalgm

[elder wind]

switch out tracers for silva wings

[modest walrus]

reaper tooth necklace

k

all warding

[elder wind]

based

[grim swallow]

Can you text it then

[elder wind]

he just did 😭

[modest walrus]

no i cant get a screenshot at the moment

[grim swallow]

Sorry lags

[deep blaze]

are you using the absorber?

[grim swallow]

Nebulous core is an interesting choice
Does it clear debuffs?

[deep blaze]

if you are and get hit by the true eyes of cthulu you get softlocked im pretty sure

[deep blaze]

rebind dash key

[modest walrus]

Nebulous core seems great to me

A revive every 90 seconds

Clears rebuffs and bleed

[deep blaze]

please rebind dash key

[modest walrus]

And plus 10 percent damage

[deep blaze]

makes the fight 3x easier once you get accustomed to it

[grim swallow]

If it doesnt clear debuffs its ass

Because you will die from dragonfire

[grim swallow]

What about your bros build
Is it the same but with ranger stuff

[modest walrus]

Is it? I haven’t noticed that

Similar

His accessories need a bit more upgrading

But I’ve been practicing on my own and haven’t got anywhere

[grim swallow]

Also I know that reaper shark necklace is unlikely to be the best thing

[deep blaze]

you can try affliction instead of reaper shark

[elder wind]

reaper shark necklace is pretty good

[grim swallow]

Well rebind dash key and get ready for old duke prime

[modest walrus]

Did

[grim swallow]

Last yharon phase is deadass last od phase

[deep blaze]

idk if infernum is really meant for multiplayer

[grim swallow]

Well it works somewhat well for us

[elder wind]

not meant for it, but still kinda works

[deep blaze]

a lot of ais become a lot more unpredictable

[grim swallow]

True

[deep blaze]

like for DOG it literally just kills everyone in less than a quarter of a second after killing 1 person

[grim swallow]

We were fighting guardians and for some unspeakable reasons after being aggroed to my melee bro they suddenly threw the sun into my face

[deep blaze]

yeah

infernum is meant to be solo

[grim swallow]

Meant but not required

[deep blaze]

also for some reason in yharon fight i had two other friends

i was just invicible half the fight

[grim swallow]

Also isnt affiction cracked in multiplayer

[deep blaze]

yes

very

im pretty sure its the only accesory based around multi

and even solo its pretty good

[deep blaze]

oh yeahh for melee use the orderbringer if you arent

trust me

its the best for yharon melee

atleast was for me

[grim swallow]

If you are torturing yourself by doing tmelee use murasama

[deep blaze]

is rogue just meant to be the worst class

😭

im playing through ranger rn on infernum and with all other classes i havent struggled as much as i have in my rogue run yet

[grim swallow]

Rogue is 2nd most op at times imo

What stage are you at

[deep blaze]

i beat the game as rougue

[grim swallow]

Oh sorry can't read

[deep blaze]

yeah for like providence and pre ml it was good

but asides from that

uh

💩

[grim swallow]

But imo rogue shines in pre boss post ml and post yharon

[deep blaze]

pre hardmode rogue is a complete joke at times

post yharon?

[grim swallow]

Well post exos

Not post yhar

[deep blaze]

dreamstastic is sorta cracked

so i guess

[grim swallow]

True but never used it

Cuz I did stealth only

[deep blaze]

oh

[grim swallow]

Post exos rogue is absurd

[deep blaze]

atom splitter?

[grim swallow]

Yeah

[deep blaze]

or supernova

[grim swallow]

And supernova

Both

[deep blaze]

supernova was crazy for brothers and soul seekers

[grim swallow]

True

[deep blaze]

legit just skipped those

[grim swallow]

But yeah for me the worst class is ranger

[deep blaze]

i just think summoner and melee are more well rounded

[grim swallow]

Fuck ranger

[deep blaze]

tbf summoner is insanely broken for no reason

ranger is sorta ass rn

im pre prov

[grim swallow]

The humble multiplicative damagr on kaleido and MS

Well now ranger has the saw thing

Superradiant

[deep blaze]

clockwork bow is NOT cutting it lol

[grim swallow]

When I was doing ranger it was even worse

[deep blaze]

also why do the guns do like no damage

[grim swallow]

I heard someone say that superradiant works on polterghast

[deep blaze]

hmm ill try it

myabe it willl work

ranger pre ml is trash tho

[grim swallow]

True

[deep blaze]

every other class can shred through ml

star of destruction for rogue

[grim swallow]

And ranger after superradiant falls off is ass

[deep blaze]

summoner is just uh crazy

melee astral blade

[grim swallow]

Ranger is the only class rhat I didnt kill inf scal with

[deep blaze]

mage idk what it was

[grim swallow]

Because of ass dps

[grim swallow]

Arch amaryllis or smth is really good

[deep blaze]

thats why i saved ranger for last lol

[grim swallow]

Doesnt rogue also have astral thing or whatever

Astral crystalline

[deep blaze]

uh i think

[grim swallow]

I never had a good rogue ml fight

[deep blaze]

i didnt use though since star of destructon shredded moonlords top eye

[grim swallow]

I always use stupif shit

First infernum with my friend it was the star from aureus

[deep blaze]

that was good

ish

did little damage though

[grim swallow]

Second run solo it were talismans

[deep blaze]

talismans are trash im sorry

😭

atleast they were for me

[grim swallow]

Well they were good for aureus and leviathan

Why was I using them for cultist golem and etc is a good question

[deep blaze]

they were the best for rogue for those two

but still they were kinda trash

[grim swallow]

I liked em

[deep blaze]

no homing kinda ruined it for me

ranger is worse now that i think about it

at no point is ranger the best or even second best class

asides from pre hm

[grim swallow]

Ranger hate🔥

[deep blaze]

and early hm

meowthrower is crazy for no reason

maybe i dont use enough bows

🤔

[grim swallow]

Ranher is only good during minishark Luxor's gift time

[deep blaze]

maybe the guns are just ass

[grim swallow]

No it just sucks

[deep blaze]

oh

lol

[grim swallow]

Blossom flux is good tho

[deep blaze]

blossom flux is good

for the easiest portions of the game

golem and cultist are jokes

[grim swallow]

One of the only insane bows next to phantasm line and maybe fishron/eol bows?

There is also a bow that weaver drops

[deep blaze]

i guess ill try celebration mk2

[grim swallow]

Which eats your fps with elysian arrows

[deep blaze]

for providence

😭

[grim swallow]

Actually ranger has one more good spot

Hellborn

Drop from brim elemental that gets a moderate kill time on prov

[deep blaze]

oh

providence is easy anyway though

after the first run

just is a sort of long fight

[grim swallow]

Ranger was the only class to get to second p2 cycle

Usually she dies during lava rises even more

Or dogna

[deep blaze]

oh thats bad lol

[gleaming cairn]

portal gun

[grim swallow]

Huh

[gleaming cairn]

portal gun helps a surprising amount with provi

[deep blaze]

just the sides of both arena walls?

[gleaming cairn]

ye

[deep blaze]

that could work

but its kinda pointless

[grim swallow]

I never thought about rhat buf for what attack do you use that

[deep blaze]

providence isnt all to hard after you look at the patterns

[grim swallow]

Lava rises even more?

[deep blaze]

hell crosses maybe

[grim swallow]

Tbh if dogma didnt kast until heat death of the universe prov would have been much easier

[deep blaze]

since if u keep distances they are easy to dodge

[gleaming cairn]

i find it helps most with the phase transition with the fireballs rising from below (basically becomes a freebie), helps a good bit with the crosses, and it gives you a last-ditch move if you end up in a bad dogma spot

[deep blaze]

oh

that makes more sense

[grim swallow]

Phase starter is really easy imo

[gleaming cairn]

it is, but it makes it even easier

[deep blaze]

ranger scal looks

trash

[grim swallow]

You hug the wall on attack 1 and slowly glide across the arena on attack 2

[deep blaze]

maybe i shouldnt do this

😭

[grim swallow]

Im not sure on how good heavenly gale is but every other weapon is garbage

3 minutes to GET to brothers

[broken sedge]

guys what can i do when i accidentally broke solys tent and shes in a cave below my base

[grim swallow]

Rogue gets to desp in that time

[deep blaze]

gotta finish the whole dm dokuro ost before the fight ends huh

😭

14 minutes

imagine fighting scal for 14 minutes tho actually

[elder nebula]

i used magnomaly cannon and it was pretty good

[grim swallow]

Well that run would probably have lasted for the entire scars of calamity

[elder nebula]

surprisingly

[deep blaze]

it would have but im talking about stained brutal calamity

[grim swallow]

I used it and it wasnt good as the 3 minutes is with it

Maybe the reason was that I was bad and didn't get adrens

Because on rogue I just skipped phase 2 and 4

With p3 being bros

Which also got semi skipped

[deep blaze]

calamity should make ranger have like traits to their bullets or something

because some bullets not being homing is really bad at some stages

pretty much every class has good homing weapons while as ranger you need to use lower dps bullets if you want that

[grim swallow]

True

[deep blaze]

like make ranger emblem or an upgrade to it have homing bullets

post lunatic if you dont want chlorophyte bullets to be useless

[grim swallow]

And add its effect into post dog cool accessory

[night fractal]

or pick something that's not a gun that homes in

[night rapids]

bow

[wind oak]

Ranged has extremely powerful weapons to pair with homing however. It's not that big of a drawback for them. Plus ranged has the highest velocity projectiles.

[noble summit]

Just mod in more bullets

[wind oak]

Plus it's fine if a class isn't as good at certain things

They deserve some kind of identity after all

[smoky dock]

Good take 👍

[chilly bay]

how many dashes does dog do in the last part

a god doesnt fear death

how many dashes before he pops out

[fluid flax]

million

[smoky dock]

He does exactly five

He will make five portals, comes out with fireballs and disappears, yadda yadda

Then the sixth portal he makes will be a smooth transition into the standard dashing behavior

[chilly bay]

just got his ahh 🙏 this is so much better than the250 i did last time

fear monger armor or silva? is it again js fearmonger is more dmg and silva is more tanky

[smoky dock]

Other way around but also more complicated

[chilly bay]

also after mirror and staff which ones do i do?

[smoky dock]

Silva is the gold standard. For summoner, it is extremely strong and relatively very bulky

[chilly bay]

okay cool

[smoky dock]

Fearmonger is a classless alternative. In all cases, its damage output is particularly poor but its survivability is second to none, even in endgame

I cannot stress how morbidly a beast Fearmonger is

you can play like you have a concussion and you'll still win it's so funny

[chilly bay]

morbidly a beast... what a goated set

[faint arrow]

btw, is it weird that I no longer make jungle arenas much, if at all

[smoky dock]

yes

[chilly bay]

what for plantera?

[faint arrow]

I think Plague Goliath is the only notable boss to make a jungle arena for, because of needing vertical movement, but even then there are good workarounds

[smoky dock]

i am the paragon of normalcy and i exclusively make jungle arenas

[faint arrow]

fight her in hell, she doesn't enrage

[smoky dock]

Experiment with them and see what you like the most

[chilly bay]

oh theres none thats like insanely better than the rest?

[smoky dock]

Not really

[shrewd fjord]

AI Programming and Memory Chip, spawns an operator is that an npc? I don't see them when I used that item

[smoky dock]

Mirrors are noticeably better but you're limited to five

[smoky dock]

Yes Operator is an NPC

[smoky dock]

The only things worth mentioning is that Cosmic Viper Engines will shoot whatever bullets you give them, so ammunition matters for them

And that mechworms scale just like stardust dragons so they're weird

They don't scale linearly

[chilly bay]

oh ok

[shrewd fjord]

do they just move into the house after i clicked on a AI Programming and Memory Chip I found

[smoky dock]

No, they're basically spawn eggs from Minecraft

You place the item within your building range and, wherever you chose, the NPC will spawn and the item consumed

You can retrieve the item by murdering the Operator (good!) or catching her with a bug net (tolerable!)

[shrewd fjord]

oh so I just put the item somewhere in the house

[smoky dock]

you can put the item literally anywhere

inside a house is acceptable

NPCs will claim a house anywhere in the world if they don't have one already, and will teleport to them when you're sufficiently far away AND if it's raining or nighttime

[shrewd fjord]

like inside a chest or something, doesn't seem to want to be placed anywehre

[smoky dock]

Does Operator already exist somewhere

And are you attempting to use the item sufficiently close to you

[shrewd fjord]

probably i had 2 of them and 1 got used like i summoned a boss,

[smoky dock]

Sounds like you spawned her

[shrewd fjord]

i didn't even know what it was then seen a announcement an operator has appeared

but i can't see anyone

[smoky dock]

But I wouldn't be surprised if AlchNPC had spaghetti code

[chilly bay]

any tips for fighting yharon in infernum?

is it just memorize the timings on his dashes

[smoky dock]

Play aggressively, or at least aggressively enough to ensure he's always within one dash's range from you

If you're too far away, his dash will conclude before reaching you which can be tricky. It'll give off the impression he's faking you out

Keep track of his position to adjust your ram timing according to however far away he is from you

Additionally, keep track of his HP. He has various subphases which will trigger at certain HP thresholds, and will cycle his behavior consistently within subphases

[wicked creek]

In my experience, phase 1 dashes can mostly be avoided by staying away and only ramming through one of the two he chains consecutively. Although knowing the dash pattern helps a lot with that.

The fire-trail dashes he unlocks in phase 1 subphase 2 are simply to be avoided, don't risk ramming through those

Phase 1 subphase 3 he starts doing teleports before dashes, and these teleports are an amazing opportunity to deal damage

Phase 2, he gets a lot more aggressive with those dashes. Phase 2 subphase 1, can still be treated like phase 1 dashes in that you can avoid most of them and not have to ram through them necessarily, just it has a pretty long and varied dash combo there. From phase 2 subphase 2, he starts doing REALLY fast dashes which you need to get a timing for, because you need to be able to ram dash through essentially all of them

[maiden fjord]

I'll go back for the scythe, buddy. [hopefully]

[maiden fjord]

also I found something funny after that
like how did this generate in surface?

[grim swallow]

After yharon reaches 80%(?) in p2 he despawns and buffed old duke spawns

I understand that infdevs were running out of ideas but they made the same boss twice

Dog gets a pass cuz he is a worm

So the fight is also worm manipulations

[north monolith]

yo im playing rn and i need to kill giant clam

and since i killed wall of flesh is not spawning anymore

[grim swallow]

Infernum?

If so sparkling can of tuna

Or smth

[lethal folio]

is lunic corps armor any good for moon lord

[smoky dock]

Yes

Lunic Corps is a very bulky armor set, although naturally its damage output suffers

It's very effective and remains usable post-ML

[wicked creek]

I wonder though, at that point is it worth using over astral armor? Since that also offers a lot of bulk

[smoky dock]

It's personal preference

Astral armor has really big numbers so it's pretty much impossible to compete with

Lunic Corps has a niche for the fat shield making slow, methodical play more suitable

[wicked creek]

Honestly looking at the stats I think astral is probably just better

Lunic corps gives 50 shield health essentially , while astral armor gives more defense, even more defense if you use brittle star staff, extra health, etc

And that's not going into the offensive boons

[smoky dock]

Yeah Astral is generally better

That does not discount Lunic Corps' merits and does not somehow make Lunic Corps fail to function

[fast nacelle]

I like Lunic corps cuz it looks cool

[wicked creek]

Vanity slots are just for that

[fast nacelle]

True

Three shield also looks cool

[smoky dock]

Then use Lunic Corps

It's a totally serviceable and acceptable set

[fast nacelle]

Ya

Lunic corps is better defense if you do balanced set imo as well

[wicked creek]

Doesn't Rover drive painted white give you that

[fast nacelle]

It does but I have a lot of things in vanity

Rainbow cursor, summon dye, wing vanity and any other vanity

[wicked creek]

Astral armor has 11 more base defense, and the three minion slots can be 15 more defense via brittle star staff

Alongside 20 extra health from the armor

[fast nacelle]

I meant as in using offensive minions and and dodging

But

Fair

[wicked creek]

I'm not saying that you shouldn't use it, because it's still good enough

[fast nacelle]

Yea

I’m not saying astral is worse either

I love both

Prob some of my favorite armors

[wicked creek]

But I am saying that I don't see a reason to use it over astral except personal preference

[fast nacelle]

Fair

Only armor I might like more is wulfrum armor and all secret of the shadows armors

[wicked creek]

Wulfrum armor is peak and I wish we had more armors like that, I hope the arsenal armors will work like that

[fast nacelle]

Yah

But istg everything about secret of the shadows is peak

[wicked creek]

Armor damage only runs when

[fast nacelle]

So underrated

[fast nacelle]

I’ll do you one better I’ll no hit with it

[wicked creek]

Well, let's hope the arsenal armors actually do work like wulfrum armors then

[fast nacelle]

It seems like they will

[maiden fjord]

k I was reached post-moon lord and I already collected all early moon lord melee weapons 🤭
now I'm gonna build the collection room for all hardmode melee weapons and hardmode boss relic room. and I think I'm gonna use brimstone slab for that.

[fast nacelle]

I used pink dungeon tiles

But fair

[indigo gale]

Can you refight mars?

in wotg?

[maiden fjord]

previously for the pre-hardmode melee weapons and boss relics, I use smooth marble

[fast nacelle]

Ohhh

Nice

I also used dungeon tiles

(Cuz skeletron and dungeon)

[maiden fjord]

then for post moon lord and postgame melee weapons collection room, I'm gonna use exo plating

[fast nacelle]

Ooooo

Nice

[indigo gale]

Should I use eternity or Rainbow Party Cannon for AoE and ND?

[grim swallow]

I think cannon?
Any mage weapon is usable I think

I personally used dance of light

[elder nebula]

cannon has the highest dps of anything in the mod

[grim swallow]

Oh really?

[indigo gale]

I checked and eternity is higher

[elder nebula]

then you're using cannon wrong

are you dummy testing

[indigo gale]

yes

[elder nebula]

[wild imp]

Wooden sword vs the old duke

[elder nebula]

dummies are almost as unreliable as just reading the base damage

[indigo gale]

Im using super dummies though

[ancient path]

need tips on old duke's 3rd phase, he dashes faster than I can ram dash

[fast nacelle]

There is literally no diffwrence

[indigo gale]

There is

One counts as an enemy and the other doesnt

[nimble oracle]

not a meaningful difference

thing with dummies is that they're tiny, don't move, and have no defense or dr

all of which usually are Not True for bosses

[wicked creek]

I believe Flamsteed ring and empowered PSC still have it higher iirc, but close enough

Either that, or I'm mistaking between DPS and boss rush clear times

[nimble oracle]

and all of which therefore don't give an accurate show of how weapons will perform on actual bosses

[indigo gale]

I feel like eternity and party are better than eachother for different situations

[elder nebula]

probably the latter, i've seen at least 3 other people confirm rpc is the highest

[grim swallow]

Get asgards valor+leviathan ambergis combo

And rebind dash

[indigo gale]

Asgard's valor is outclassed post prov

[grim swallow]

Its needed for a good od dash spam build

[indigo gale]

kill providence in underworld to get the shield

[grim swallow]

Aegis has too much range

You will suffer from too much range with ambergis

Thats why a downgrade to valor is needed for an easier od

And yes I have tried that

[wicked creek]

Option one: learn how to dodge some of his dashes without having to ram through all of them .

Two: use a shield with shorter dash distance (deep diver would be the best technically), however that does mean you gotta stick to even tighter timings because of less dash duration

[indigo gale]

The dance of light is solid too.

a good magic weapon

(not talking about the duke situation

[round zealot]

what do you guys recommend

as last accessory

in this setup

i had asgards valor but the armor already gives me a dash

[ancient path]

damn this one actually worked like a charm

did it in like 5 attempts using leviathan ambergis/asgards

tysm

[round zealot]

i figured out that papyrus scarab stacks with statis blessing, thats what im putting there

[fast nacelle]

Use radiant jewel over community

[round zealot]

you mean infected jewel?

theres no such thing as radiant jewel i believe

[fast nacelle]

h yeah

Community isn’t good

[round zealot]

only gives defensive stats tho, community gives movement and damage aswell

is it really not that good?

[tranquil yarrow]

Compared to what you could be running from the outside looking in, seems like the main draw is that the increase is minimal to where you'd rather run something else in its place.

I could see argument for community if the stats throughout progression were jacked up a bit.

[fast nacelle]

Yeah

Precisely this

[tranquil yarrow]

Also while you're at it might as well retire treads for another accessory slot since you having fishron wings clues me into the point where your primary way of movement will be flying anyway so you can have something else entirely.

[wicked creek]

Amalgamated brain would be an excellent option, IMO

Radiant ooze or life dew over community or even angel treads would also work, given how fast fishron wings are

[round zealot]

okay cool thanks guys for all the advice

[tranquil yarrow]

Best of luck in your endeavors :>

[round zealot]

i got amalgamated brain and infected jewel

now i wont even have to dodge lmao

so much defensive items

also, stardust dragon or terraprisma?

[wicked creek]

1 terraprisma, the rest stardust cells

But wait, if you're at post cultist, I'd recommend ambrosial Ampoule and/or absorber over infected jewel

Amazing accessories, both of them

[tranquil yarrow]

^

[round zealot]

yea just beat cultist as i asked that

will upgrade

[tranquil yarrow]

Don't forget Statis Curse while you're at it.

Always forget that one when playing summoner lol

[round zealot]

haha thanks for reminding me

i might be a bit too overgeared lmao

i first tried astrum aureus

[wicked creek]

That is a post plant boss

You are post cultist

Astrum deus is the post cultist boss

[round zealot]

ah mb i first tried deus then

mixed it up

the space worm

[round zealot]

wait stardust CELLS? not dragon?

[wicked creek]

Correct

Well, dragon is better for deus, but for ML cells is better

[round zealot]

ah okay thanks

i made the dragon staff after deus, couldnt be bothered with pillars

[grim swallow]

Yeah I used it on 2x hp 1.5x damage OD

[round zealot]

is heart of the elements worth using? seems cool

[grim swallow]

I think it os

[wicked creek]

Yes, up till around providence it's worth using

[round zealot]

okay ill get it

[wicked creek]

Just as long as you're fine with the screen clutter

[round zealot]

i have friendly projectiles on 20% opacity

i can turn it lower if it bothers me haha

[lethal folio]

Infernum ML might be the worst boss in the entire mod

[round zealot]

worst as in difficult or unfun?

[lethal folio]

both

[round zealot]

haha wait till you get to dog

[lethal folio]

ive beat infernum twice before i just suck at this fight

[round zealot]

ah, understandable

[dense eagle]

Personally i wouldnt consider him the worst

[wicked creek]

OD and polterghast exist so I have to disagree

[dense eagle]

I liked the fight

I less liked polterghast

[lethal folio]

im def overexaggerating but im just bad at the last phase

[tranquil yarrow]

I will not take this old duke slander but I know I'm in the minority lmao

[lethal folio]

ur right that fight sucks

[lethal folio]

nah i like the dashslop tbh

[dense eagle]

Obviously there will be a part where somebody will have problem even if in theory its isnt that hard

[round zealot]

i dislike old duke the most aswell

[dense eagle]

For me it happens pretty frequently

[round zealot]

tbh i enjoyed polter but that was like 2 years ago, not sure if they reworked him

[dense eagle]

Iirc changed a bit but not much

[wicked creek]

Bro has one attack (dashing) and three "attacks" that barely even exist and don't do shit

[dense eagle]

Does he still have his desperation attack?

Cuz i played on multiplayer and he didnt had

But that might be multiplayer issue

[wicked creek]

I dislike polterghast because I hate how often he goes invincible or nearly invincible, the lingering projectile spam he does, and how obnoxious he is for true melee

[wicked creek]

He does

[dense eagle]

Damn

[round zealot]

thats valid, i beat him when i was playing mage

[tranquil yarrow]

Okay fair enough on that part.

[wicked creek]

I beat him with terratomere which made the shitty true melee experience option not impactful at all, but it still has to be mentioned when criticizing polterghast

[lethal folio]

this part specifically

[wicked creek]

I understand the attack, but I didn't find that one to be too hard, I found the fireball one to be less intuitive

However that attack does make it more likely to be hit by a stray projectile

[lethal folio]

i dodge one attack just to run into another

[round zealot]

anyone know why moon lords attacks are so hard to see? they are like dark red

not all attacks, but the eyes especially

is that supposed to be like that?

also statis ninja belt or asgards valor?

[wicked creek]

Omniscience potion most likely

[wicked creek]

You can't get Statis' ninja belt pre Moonlord, only master ninja gear. But that's more useful than Asgard's valor for Moonlord as long as you got KB immunity from like, the absorber

[round zealot]

ok thanks ill turn it off

[round zealot]

i just beat him

so for providence

[wicked creek]

Worry about profaned guardians first, for which I'd use Asgard's valor

Statis ninja belt for providence tho

[round zealot]

okay, thanks

[round zealot]

no way kaleidoscope is still best post providence whip

also what summon/sentry for post providence as summoner?

dazzling stabber staff seems alright

[wicked creek]

Well infernum adds perditus

Which is even better

[lethal folio]

took me 28 att and lunic armor but i beat moon lord

[wicked creek]

Dazzling stabber is good enough, so is virid vanguard
Sentry wise, it depends on the specific boss, for worms, you'd go lunar portal staff, for other bosses..... Probably energized spark?

[elder wind]

calamity doesn't add any new whips sadly :(

infernum adds one tho

[round zealot]

Well time to get perditus

[round zealot]

Okay thanks a lot for all this

[grim swallow]

Kaleido gives multi damage

Perditus will result in less dps I think by itself

It will add a lot with whip stacking

[lethal folio]

for guardians/providence what do i use now that the elemental blaster isnt a thing

[grim swallow]

Superradiant

Which is what ele blaster got turned to

I never used it but I can see why it's good and I heard people use it after prov

But I dont need to say why a wealon that is basically tmelee with extra steps is good against no contact damage prov

[dark kindle]

I'm using a ranger build on Infernum (with master mod fix addon) & how do I deal with Supreme Calamitas dot

I get too 400 hp in one hit from the effect not contact damage

[grim swallow]

Well you signed up for master

But send build

For dot ig radiance can be good

[dark kindle]

ya one sec, I also have a mod with extra access slots added 2/3? as ik how much harder it was gonna be

[glass quest]

Hello. I've been trying to beat moon lord for quite a long time now, I'm on infernum and I want some tips about maybe dodging (im really struggling with his later phases) and loadout? I would appreciate any kind of help now since I have over 50 attempts on this already, thanks

been using this (I want to do mage only)

[dense eagle]

with a mod which adds more access slot, it will be much more easier

[dark kindle]

one is taken up by an access for ki as I have a rebalance DB mod (I might like DB)

[elder wind]

blood pact to ambrosial ampoule and I personally would change arcane flower to permafrost's concoction (the revive can be insanely clutch), hydrothermic mage armor can also be nice for survivability

[lethal folio]

go to the voice chat 4 channel and look at that vid

[elder wind]

also grab some warding holy crap

[grim swallow]

What does blood pact do again?
Also valor is better to be swapped for master ninja gear and change abrain to smth else

[elder wind]

like even if it's not all warding, even one or two helps a lot

[elder wind]

25% more max hp and 25% more health from healing pots

[dark kindle]

yes, after watching a SorbetCafe vid explaining warding I realized how good it rlly was

[fading dove]

void monolith effect sucks i agree

[dark kindle]

warding will give u more leg room to make a mistake, b/c even if sure you'll not take much less damage 1hp vs dead can be the diff b/t winning & losing

[fading dove]

aint that the person who despises reading

yeah it is

[dark kindle]

He's the one that did 16 ppl each class

[elder wind]

especially in calamity, considering that you get +5 defense instead of +4 defense in hardmode per warding

[dark kindle]

& hates how mage is setup

[elder wind]

what'd they do 😭

[fading dove]

also didn't make a single ench in eternity mode and was wondering why he was struggling

[dark kindle]

yes & at the point I'm at 7+

[fading dove]

he also immediately dismissed all enchantments because "too much reading"

[dark kindle]

maybe?

[fading dove]

we literally had to fucking beg him to make meteor ench

[elder wind]

giving me vibes of someone I saw that didn't want to make the valhalla knight enchant because "mounts have too little acceleration"

[fading dove]

the 1.5x accel and dash in question

had they ever used empowered cute fishron

[elder wind]

no idea

[dark kindle]

maybe it is, I watched mostly his explaining vids then his 16ppl each class

[fading dove]

it is

[dark kindle]

never been on a stream but interesting he did that

[fading dove]

he took 16 minutes on eow

[dark kindle]

of no reading for a mod all about special skills & stuff

[dark kindle]

ok so I did get the name right

[fading dove]

during the streams he also revealed that he wants the community's (the cal accessory) tooltip to be something like "increases stats"

[grim swallow]

What does blood pact do again?
Also valor is better to be swapped for master ninja gear and change abrain to smth else

[grim swallow]

Also what weapon are you using
And main tip for ml is kill top eye first

As if you kill non top eye first it may do a long ass attack while all eyes are closed

I dismissed all enchants because too much of a choice

Whats harder
Reading or counting

[dense ocean]

The Ultimate Calamity fan...

[elder wind]

holy lag spike

[fading dove]

internet floodgates

[elder wind]

all of the messages came in at once 😭

[dark kindle]

increases hp & potion potency by 25%

[grim swallow]

Yeah I already got answered

Smth for regen is probs better

[fading dove]

blood pact is technically regen

[dark kindle]

I use it still at endgame

[fading dove]

regen is dependent on max hp

its why you regen so slow early on

[grim swallow]

Well I mean smth like actual regen like ampoule

[dark kindle]

it has gotten me thro norm infernum instead of the hell of Master Infernum

[fading dove]

glory to regen accessories

[dark kindle]

yes

[dark kindle]

my fav kind

[grim swallow]

Glory to photosynthesis potion

[dark kindle]

all we do is read with the overexplained abilites

😭

[wicked creek]

Why would you do that when chalice of the blood god exists and is better in every way

[fading dove]

i should get back to the dog grind

[grim swallow]

Photosynthetis potion is so damn good
Got me enough hp for like 1 extra rod use on masodeatg abon which saved me

[dark kindle]

I got upgraded ver I don't remember names very well I thought that was the upgraded ver

myb

[grim swallow]

And it helped on mutant edeath too

[dark kindle]

got me to endphase Sup Cal regen is everything on her

holy

[elder wind]

funny thing is, he also did a blind calamity playthrough, and proceeded to fight aquatic scourge prehardmode, somehow beat it, and (going off of the comments of the vid here, it's like 30 minutes) complained that the weapon was strong 😭

[dark kindle]

oh ya, he's crazy good

but he's also kinda stupid

it's great

[elder wind]

didn't use any calamity accessories or stuff either

[grim swallow]

Genuinely how do you play calamity first time without a friend with 7k hours

[glass quest]

guys after all those changes yall told me to do I got insanely close now I think I can do it

[dense ocean]

Clearly, he is the target demographic for Calamity.

[glass quest]

thank you so much omg

[fading dove]

ah

right

[wicked creek]

...with this discord and the wiki

[grim swallow]

Well I mean if someone wants to do it without help

[elder wind]

yeah that's my main problem with calamity

[dense ocean]

Be me a few years ago.

[grim swallow]

With only in game things

[elder wind]

it's a seriously wiki based mod

[dark kindle]

ya only issue I have with it

[dense ocean]

I mean, so is Terraria unless you really like The Guide.

[elder wind]

there are a lot of things you just... won't find without the wiki

like, at all

[dark kindle]

when I 1st played I gave up early & came back later after I found the wiki

now I find revengance too easy 💀

[grim swallow]

Actually does calamity have its npc for help
Vanilla has guide fargo has deviantt

[elder wind]

at least the guide exists

[elder wind]

nope, nothing to help at all

bro what's with the new spacing in between messages

[dark kindle]

I'm both a guide hater & appreciator (mf let zombies in wayyy to much)

[dense ocean]

You could listen to Amidias, who tells you what to do... but people forget he exists.

[dark kindle]

honestly I understand why tho, cause he doesn't seem important

guide has well GUIDE in his description

[grim swallow]

And hes unlocked from a miniboss post ds

[elder wind]

it's completely off topic but the new discord update added more spacing between messages and where you type messages

[grim swallow]

At least fargo straight up throws deviantt at you

[elder wind]

yeah, you might not even find the sunken sea

[dark kindle]

which someone could easily miss until they alr have better gear

[elder wind]

it's one of the most niche biomes in the mod

[dark kindle]

than what Amidas sells

[dark kindle]

until you realize u need mollusk shells for certain upgrades & sunken sea for parts of decryption to summon EXO Mechs

which is way late

for his gear

[grim swallow]

Sunken sea is needed at 2 points

[fading dove]

sunken sea's existence is as obvious as the post plant dungeon's

you kill a boss and there's a status message in chat

[dense ocean]

Sunken Sea is mandatory to visit to fight Draedon.

It's literally where the questline starts.

[grim swallow]

Tbh id say that sky planetoid should have been first

[dense ocean]

Not unreasonable.

[elder wind]

ok to be fair on me forgetting that it gives the status message

[dark kindle]

which at that point, do u need Amidas to tell u what to do? He rlly is only important if u can no hit in abyss with his breathing buff

[elder wind]

I'm sleep deprived rn and it's 7 am lol (I went to sleep at midnight)

[dense ocean]

Amidias tells you Calamity progression things.

[dark kindle]

I never knew that

[elder wind]

yeah, no one looks at his dialogue

[dark kindle]

& I have hundreds of hours I'm suprised I never noticed

[elder wind]

I didn't really know either ngl

[grim swallow]

I discovered it once when I was getting him before oxygen fight and he said smth about ravager? Or smth dont remember

[dark kindle]

ah

[dense ocean]

"Profaned creatures now lurk in the Hallow and in Hell. If you destroy enough and gather their essence together you shall be able to capture the attention of the Profaned Guardians."
Here's one of Amidias' help messages.

He's how you're meant to learn the bulk of Calamity's progression.

[fading dove]

The Abyss has become far more active than before. You might be able to mine some of the volcanic rubble contained within.
post golem help message

[dense ocean]

Guide only has a couple, like he mentions Uelibloom and Ceaseless, but not much else.

[dark kindle]

Calamity players can't read dialogue, only weapon/accessory info

😭

[dense ocean]

So that's where Yharim's called the Golden Heretic.

I was looking for that.

"The Golden Heretic, Yharim, possesses strength that may just surpass all of the Gods. When you face him, be well prepared for the battle of your life."

[fading dove]

The Abyss holds many secrets revealed with time. Checking it out again may not be a bad idea.

Ah...I can sense a powerful change in the weather. You may want to venture to the Sulphurous Seas once more during the rain to experience it.
the post polter messages

[wicked creek]

Calamity players can't read dialogue, only weapon/accessory info

[dark kindle]

it may be cope but Yharim is getting added one day right 😔

[dense ocean]

Yes.

[wicked creek]

Yeah, but it's literally the last thing they're gonna add in development

Except maybe noxus and xeroc depending on how much they wanna do those

[dark kindle]

huh what'd u say?

[grim swallow]

Amidias also hints at like every accessory having an upgrade post dog

[dense ocean]

👍︎♋︎●︎♋︎❍︎♓︎⧫︎⍓︎ ♐︎♋︎■︎⬧︎ ♍︎♋︎■︎ॐ︎⧫︎ ❒︎♏︎♋︎♎︎📬︎

[dark kindle]

Hopefully, I wanna kill Xeroc for making Boss Rush

[dense ocean]

You won't kill him.

[grim swallow]

Oh no its wind doer gastricher

[dark kindle]

nah I'd win (I'd get one shot)

[dark kindle]

Thank you, I understand it now

[wicked creek]

Ah it'll be more like a sparring match

We're not killing the sun

[dark kindle]

Nah man trust 🙏😔

[dense ocean]

Trust me, killing the guy who is in charge of making the sun work would probably end badly.

[dark kindle]

good point, then I can't throw the Tinkerer in the sun

[nimble oracle]

Xeroc is part of the dream blunt rotation

[dense ocean]

You would think that guy would want Yharim.

[dense ocean]

What the hell are you fighting?

[wicked creek]

That's a geometry dash level

[dense ocean]

Shouldn't that go in general talk?

[nimble oracle]

Looks kinda like a wip AoE in gd?

I think?

[wicked creek]

It has one clearly AOE inspired attack but the rest seem unique, even if clearly WOTG inspired

[wicked creek]

Do you accept?

[dark kindle]

I forgot, but this is my build and the item I'm looking at is from Secrets of the Shadows

[dark kindle]

Nvm I take it back, Boss Rush isn't even that bad

[dense ocean]

Devs, add Double Trouble Boss Rush for this user.

[dark kindle]

NOOOO

[wicked creek]

12 accessories?

[elder wind]

is... is that five extra accessory slots

[dark kindle]

I added some b/c I couldn't get thro Master Infernum Calamitas

[dense ocean]

That's your problem.

Master Infernum isn't real.

[dark kindle]

& I still can't, Revengance & norm I can't

[dense ocean]

Stop playing on fictional difficulties.

[wicked creek]

How you gonna have 12 accessories and not a single offensive one

[dark kindle]

honestly 1st time trying the mastermode addon & expert infernum I don't need the xtra

[elder wind]

technically you can play it with an addon, but there's no real ai changes and it's just stat bloat

[dense ocean]

Don't use that addon.

Ever.

[dark kindle]

with projectiles being faster too I believe as Timing as been wonky

[dense ocean]

No, the patch only breaks things.

Doesn't add compatability.

[dark kindle]

should I just do a new pt tbh?

[dense ocean]

Yeah.

Master mode sucks in Calamity in general.

[dark kindle]

Sup Cal has projectiles were so fast I went full healing cause it was a I'm getting hit, knowing the addon breaks it ya I'll jus make a new tbh that'll make it functional

[wicked creek]

The faster something dies, the less time it has to shoot projectiles at you

While defensive setups are the best in calamity, having some offense is still a good part of them

[dark kindle]

ok, I thought ppl had beaten the addon & I was jus bad for adding xtra. But knowing it's broken that makes sense

[dark kindle]

Ya I had the elemental quiver & the one that summons dark portals with 75% increase to arrow damage for Exo Mechs

unless I'm high & u make that after

thx for the helpful info of it's broken tho, I was lowkey going insane 😭

new q, what class should I do next?

[median kiln]

on attempt 70, i got him to 3rd phase

infernum devourer of gods, no omega blue, only void edge

[modest walrus]

is screwdriver good for yharon

[fading dove]

wulfrum screwdriver is not a viable weapon for postml

[round zealot]

can i fight polter in the ceaseless void arena

[fading dove]

yeah

[modest walrus]

i mean the alchohol

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Screwdriver

[plucky mantle]

3 life regen is brutal

[north bough]

I just tier skipped Duke Fishron right after Prime, Infernum Fishron was so hard for me on my first playthrough so I am shocked

Demon Wings to Fishron Wings is quite the wing upgrade

[modest walrus]

? three life regen

is scredriver good for yharon

it seems decent but idk

[fading dove]

weapon dependent

[plucky mantle]

Its minus 3 life regen

Wait no

[fading dove]

?

[plucky mantle]

I read it wrong

As fuck

[fading dove]

yeah thats -1

[plucky mantle]

I thought the 3 from the 3 alcohols part was where it said thr minus life regrn

😭😭😭

[modest walrus]

minus 0.5

most of the weapons im using have some pierce

[fading dove]

life regen is an integer

[modest walrus]

but idk what counts as peirce

pierce

[plucky mantle]

Anything that pierces

[modest walrus]

like does the galaxia circle swing thingy count as pierce?

[fading dove]

good question

[plucky mantle]

i think so

[fading dove]

test to find out

[plucky mantle]

Probably

[night fractal]

Yea

Any projectile that can hit more than one enemy is piercing

and almost every attack is a projectile

except for like, the sword part of the vanilla swings like Enchanted Sword

[modest walrus]

k

it seems good bc its a multiplier

and only half a health regen

[night fractal]

Yeah

Screwdriver is good

[modest walrus]

should i use cosmic discharge

[wicked creek]

Cosmic discharge has insanely good DPS but it really needs you to stick close to the enemy

It's good for infernum yharon 2nd phase when he stands still to summon the fire rings around you , but Galaxia is better overall if you wanna just use one weapon

[night fractal]

Cosmic Discharge is insanely strong

[modest walrus]

i can never his the boss with it tho

also would it be a decent idea to use darksun ring with brittle star staff

bc each brittle star minion gives an extra 5 defense

[night fractal]

yeah

DSR with brittle star is a lot of defense

[fading dove]

its 1 regen

[wicked creek]

Exactly, which is why I said galaxia is better for most of the fight, with cosmic discharge being best when he stands still in phase 2 to summon fire rings and shit

[night fractal]

Or to use once every 30 seconds for the boss stun

since it does have a boss stun

[modest walrus]

it has a bosss stun?

i havent seen it stun in infernum

[wicked creek]

Unironically I think trying to land it on the meth-addled being that is infernum yharon is less worth than the benefit you get from the stun

[round zealot]

cant i farm bereft vassal

[wicked creek]

Yes you can

But why

[round zealot]

no but i killed him and now i need to go out of that dimension and back in?

i need light/dark shard

[wicked creek]

He drops an item that lets you teleport to the portal

[median kiln]

I GOT HIM TO 2

WHAT

[night fractal]

Yeah,. it's only 1-2 seconds but it exists

[round zealot]

best setup for infernum dog? im on attempt 3 already and this is getting annoying :/

[fading dove]

what class

[round zealot]

summoner

[fading dove]

mmmmmm

[round zealot]

currently i have this

but deific amulet is useless right?

[fading dove]

no its quite good for lasers

this is a pretty standard dog loadout

[round zealot]

also full warding could be a problem right

[fading dove]

?