calamity-addon-talk

[wicked creek]

Well this is gonna fuck up the primordial wyrm fight probably

Hope you're not mage or ranger

[faint tangle]

It won’t

The abyss will fill itself back up eventually

[thin canyon]

i still surprised is that

you decimated the whole world

for just infernum dog

[wicked creek]

It only fills itself up if you got abyss walls iirc

Because that's what spawns eater

[faint tangle]

Okay so never mind the abyss is broken

Accidental reply FUCK

anyways that’s a problem for future me

[thin canyon]

but still

why world level of arena

[gleaming cairn]

tbh dog doesn't require that much space

you just need a good bit of vertical space, bit less if you do the horizontal strat

[faint tangle]

Okay tbh I don’t even know why

Except because it was funny

[thin canyon]

😭

[thin canyon]

or basically almost none when you can abuse its limited turning speed

but tbf

i am surprised that many build like

extreme size of arena to fight dog

[gleaming cairn]

i just use my skybridges

heaven knows you'll be using your skybridge for 500 other fights anyway

[thin canyon]

i just build the arena

in the astral infection

being small as f for post moonlord

but effectively helped me to well

finish the entire run

[faint tangle]

I also did it because it would only take like

Five minutes

[thin canyon]

iirc my original world has like

[faint tangle]

Thanks fargos

[thin canyon]

5 arenas

1 on the ocean
1 in the underworld
1 in the underground jungle
1 on the desert
and 1 on astral

on my subsequence play

it came down to 3...

[atomic star]

well

my infernum hardcore run

uhh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136515442077335643/1414747859580092508/dotnet.exe_2025.09.09_-_00.57.42.05.DVR_-_Trim.mp4?ex=68c0b21e&is=68bf609e&hm=79857c86fd4d215084c3fc462514161e09ff79ab270cfac7b540f369055debc9&

holy dodging bro

imma kms

[thin canyon]

i can already see the issue

you're being paniced and kept moving to his body

it happens to alot of new infernum player

[atomic star]

yeah i was tryna dash away but i forgot about his ai

i was dasshing in the EXACT direction this guy was going

[thin canyon]

you don't really need to dash

Deus has its own weakness like the major of worm bosses

limited turning speed on normal attacks

[atomic star]

yes i know my plan was to slam into his body to get the ram dash and get out of the border because i was close to it

[thin canyon]

i don't recommend it with asgard valor

[atomic star]

so the bordrer made me scared and i dashed

and well he went exactly into me so i tried again

and well at that point i didnt know what to do

[thin canyon]

at most using it to escape anytime that he tried to wrap you around

[atomic star]

i mean i tried going for it without any practice which was abig fucking mistake

i definetly forgot how the boss works

[thin canyon]

it takes time

try to stay calm a bit before fighting

and try not to overthink

try again
but this time, don't spam dash key

and try to use movement key to dodge

[atomic star]

try.. again...

right..

well

thats gonna take some time

[thin canyon]

since dashing uncontrollably very much makes you get hit by projectiles

or getting contact damage

[atomic star]

this was hardcore theres no again 😭

[thin canyon]

your character is gone

not the world

[atomic star]

dude

the point of hardcore is to...

not die

[thin canyon]

atp

do a classic first

[atomic star]

i cant just resume where i left off bro 😭

[thin canyon]

i would not recommend doing HC infernum without any proper walkthrough

[atomic star]

how do i tell you this.

ive beaten ifnenrum as every class including true melee so like

[thin canyon]

then
do no death on classic

[atomic star]

i was kinda ready and the reason why i even got to astrum deus i know my dodging looks shit on that clip but i forgot what to fucking do alright 😭

[gloomy wedge]

damn thats pretty rough

never lost a hc run that late in

what were you running there, valhalla knight?

[atomic star]

no

the palguebrimg

i got such a stroke bro

hgoly shit

rewatching this HURTS me

[gloomy wedge]

oh you were going plaguebringer

yeah if you're going summoner i 100% go valhalla knight there every time

[atomic star]

i was doing multiclass cause

[gloomy wedge]

you get most of your slots from accessories anyways

[atomic star]

yk some classes are better in certain stages

[gloomy wedge]

yeah ofc

standard hardcore stuff

i multiclass myself all the time

[atomic star]

and on hardcore i do want to make sure i fucking do as much as i can 😭

[gloomy wedge]

i think farthest i ever got on hc was calclone on eternideath hardcore

[atomic star]

this was my second attempt where i got past any boss so it wasnt that bad

[gloomy wedge]

where i died because i forgot to equip abaddon

[atomic star]

but damn i wish i coudlve at least died to moonlord

thats a reasonable death

astrum deus just looks like im ass at the game

[gloomy wedge]

hence why you go beat his ass and beat scal next attempt

[atomic star]

i really wanted the devastation but actually that was the onyl thing i wouldve gotten

i shoudlve skipped him

his attacks are unpredictable for me cause the projectiles are so fucking small

[gloomy wedge]

i forgot what i did for him in my regular inf run but pretty sure i fought argus first

for sealocket

in general what ive learned is that your damage literally does not matter

your only win condition is the boss dies before day time, which can be done with zero offensive bonuses

[atomic star]

really...?

it doesnt feel like it

higher dps looks like he dies faster

i know astrageldon has a damage reduction that becomes higher if you deal too much damage but i dont think its the same for astrum deus

[gloomy wedge]

no i dont mean for deus specifically

just hardcore

in general

[atomic star]

well

to be fair yeah that makes sense

but sometimes i want to get done with bosses quicker

because im afraid im gonna mess up 😭

but at the same time that removes defensive accesories

which makes me more prone to damage

well at least i know the exact class layout i have till moonlord

maybe the second hardcore run will take a bit less than 20 hours to get to deus 😭

[grizzled onyx]

a major thing for hardcore is to be as tanky as physically possible

there's a reason why many hardcore players usually use melee armor

[gloomy wedge]

personally i like going for mostly defense with a little bit of offense in there if i can afford it

like i used 2 pieces of molten + obsidian helmet since it still gave 4 def and let me throw in an extra vile feeder

[grizzled onyx]

a calamity players worst nightmare
armor mixing

[gloomy wedge]

people hate on armor mixing until they use 2 piece mollusk

2 piece mollusk is actual fucking crack

[grizzled onyx]

how so

[gloomy wedge]

you basically dont have a movement speed penalty

i mean its there but its really small

[grizzled onyx]

and what do you get

what armor pieces are best for this purpose

[tulip steeple]

chat I just beat cryogen and queen slime

[gloomy wedge]

i like slotting in titan heart helm

you only lose 2 defense in exchange for getting astral debuff on all rogue weapons

[grizzled onyx]

buuut you dont get stealth

[night fractal]

In general the helmet for whatever class you use

[gloomy wedge]

yeah but if you use like cursed dagger

[night fractal]

just use a spam rogue weapon

[gloomy wedge]

you dont need stealth

[grizzled onyx]

fair

[night fractal]

Ik Orichalcum Melee js cracked with Mollusks

[grizzled onyx]

how is that

[night fractal]

it has like 14% crit or something

on the helmet

[grizzled onyx]

lets see here
stats:
11% increased melee damage and melee speed
7% increased movement speed
19 defense
(OC helm)
10% increased damage and 6% increased critical strike chance
15% decreased movement speed
22 defense
(Mollusk plate)
12% increased damage and 4% increased critical strike chance
7% decreased movement speed
15 defense
(mollusk pants)

[smoky dock]

What're the Statigel Helm's stats

[grizzled onyx]

overall you get:
46 defense
15% decreased movement speed
22% increased overall damage and 11% increased melee damage
11% melee speed
10% crit chance

yeah that's cracked

[smoky dock]

10% melee damage, 10% melee speed, 7% melee crit

[grizzled onyx]

thats crazy

for pre HM

[smoky dock]

I think Statigel would perform better than Orichalcum when molsk mixin'

[grizzled onyx]

1% less melee damage and speed for 7% more melee crit

but what about its defesne

[smoky dock]

well the other pieces of the set suck because it's a 'classless' set

[smoky dock]

9

[grizzled onyx]

you loose 10 defense with statgel

[smoky dock]

5% crit chance, 5% damage, 5% movement speed

[grizzled onyx]

for the leggings?

[smoky dock]

for both combnined

[grizzled onyx]

jesus christ that sucks

[smoky dock]

All the 'classless but interchangeable helmet' sets are like that

[grizzled onyx]

at least the statgel set bonus is nice

im watching a video of a modded radiance fight
they just made her attack faster and added fucking Markoth to the fight

[smoky dock]

Either the helmet itself is disproportionately strong compared to the rest of the set (E.x. Statigel) or the offensive power is frontloaded in the set bonus (E.x. Tarragon)

[tribal notch]

anyone knows if calamity overhaul is compatible with fargo souls?

[grizzled onyx]

i dont know
its weapons are really overpowered though, so i'd say no

[haughty herald]

where get this?

[smoky dock]

calamity overhaul is not compatible

with, like

anything

ever

[grizzled onyx]

thats only on Zenith seed

[smoky dock]

That's dropped by enemies in the Pumpkin Moon post-DoG

[haughty herald]

how crafty terratomere

[grizzled onyx]

but nightmare fuel is used later for a lot of delicious upgrades post dog

[haughty herald]

im pre polter and this vid says terratormere

[smoky dock]

Use the Wiki

[haughty herald]

terratomere is recomendced

but i need materials that are post dog

[grizzled onyx]

that hellkite recipe is ONLY for the Zenith worldseed

[haughty herald]

ah

[grizzled onyx]

the normal recipe is like a volcano and perennial bars

[smoky dock]

maybe there's a second recipe somewhere for Hellkite

which might be easier

[grizzled onyx]

you're the true melee guy
how do you not know this things recipe

[smoky dock]

It's potentially because I'm sarcastically feigning ignorance of simple things

[elder nebula]

real

[grizzled onyx]

like how you're feining ignorance of true melee being kinda mid

[smoky dock]

I'm not ignorant of it at all, I'm totally aware that it's not meta by any stretch of the imagination

[grizzled onyx]

fair enough

it has some high highs and some really fing low lows

[elder nebula]

oh i thought you were serious

[smoky dock]

I know that the meta is summoner, but it's not actually summoner it's secretly actually true melee sometimes, but it's secretly actually not true melee sometimes

[grizzled onyx]

there's amazing stuff like omniblade

dragon rage

murasama

etc

[elder nebula]

subshocker 🔥

[grizzled onyx]

and then theres times it feels like complete s**t to play

[smoky dock]

I am enlightened of the fact that weapons and equipment are red herrings and are never going to outperform the true meta, that being Nothing

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1276624386304118794/1387564758953234563/ultimate_boulder_hoik.gif

[elder nebula]

you can swear here

this ain't tiktok

[smoky dock]

the only profanity you cannot use is rang*r

[grizzled onyx]

like seriously
my friend gave up on true melee thanks to WoF being complete dogshit

[elder nebula]

what

what is that

[thin canyon]

particle accelerator

[grizzled onyx]

WoF feels TERRIBLE to fight with true melee

its an enormous issue with the subclass

[smoky dock]

The future of Terraria gameplay

What, do you think this game should be 'fun' and 'diverse' and we should 'enjoy it how we please' like some kinda unoptimized psychopath?

[grizzled onyx]

the only decent weapon that doesnt force you to basically hug WoF to deal damage is Nights Edge

[smoky dock]

There's worse out there
Infernum is generally friendlier to true melee than base Calamity though, which is a blessing

inf WoF is still kinda eh but that's because it's always kinda eh

[grizzled onyx]

yes
i personally think optimizing something in games is boring and takes away from the fun

[smoky dock]

Basecal WoF sux

[grizzled onyx]

base Cal WoF is TERRIBLE

[smoky dock]

But I'm not aware of anything worse than basecal Exos

[grizzled onyx]

even with DR?

[smoky dock]

Lets do an experiment

[nimble wing]

i would argue the only reason true melee ever struggles with any wof is whether the wof in question has vanilla hungries

[smoky dock]

Fight basecal Exos with Dragon Rage

[faint tangle]

True melee is like the potential man of terraria

[smoky dock]

REAL

[nimble wing]

vanilla hungries are detestable

[grizzled onyx]

yeah dear god the hungries are a make or break for true melee

[smoky dock]

there's a secret cheat code to removing them from the game actually

[faint tangle]

Thank you I spent a long time coming up with that

[smoky dock]

i don't remember the inputs for the cheat code but I know it has something to do with walking to an alchemy table and crafting tesla potions

[grizzled onyx]

trying to use any up close weapon against those hungry bastards is a death sentence

[nimble wing]

reminder that fabsol balanced every boss minion with tesla potion

[smoky dock]

oh deadass

[nimble wing]

yes!

[grizzled onyx]

w-why??!??!

[smoky dock]

WhereIsMySalad

[elder nebula]

certified fabsol moment

[smoky dock]

wall of flesh is the literal coolest thing ever in theory but I can't fathom a way to make it fun in practice

[grizzled onyx]

there's certainly attempts (fargos is one of my favorites)

[gloomy wedge]

fargos

[grizzled onyx]

infernum wof is certainly interesting (it isnt the most fun but its decent)

[smoky dock]

oh yeah no doubt Fargo's souls gets as close to peam as I think WoF will ever get

[gloomy wedge]

infernum wof is one of the worst bosses ive fought in modded terraria

at least with tremor you can laugh at the bosses

[elder nebula]

TRUE

[grizzled onyx]

its seriously super mediocre

[elder nebula]

you literally just jump once every couple seconds and automatically win

[grizzled onyx]

after the god tier bosses of SG and Skeletron

[gloomy wedge]

what am i supposed to do with a boss that is so aggressively meh in every single way

ok skeletron was not that good im gonna be honest

[grizzled onyx]

you face that dissapointment

[gloomy wedge]

actually fuck it im gonna post the tier list

[smoky dock]

inf WoF is a lot better if you don't alter the underworld in any significant way

[gloomy wedge]

i didnt and he still sucked

i always just use crags for my arena

[grizzled onyx]

if you make a halfdecent arena for it its really damn easy

[smoky dock]

The extra obstacles of having to deal with the terrain is much more exciting

[gloomy wedge]

anyways

[grizzled onyx]

what did yharon do to you

[smoky dock]

be nice to yharon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 and draghdon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[grizzled onyx]

i personally like exos

[smoky dock]

i like them!

[nimble wing]

this might sound weird

[elder wind]

is this a tier list of infernum fights

[elder nebula]

easy

[gloomy wedge]

i genuinely cant even despise this fight

it just makes me sad

[elder wind]

or just calamity fights

[nimble wing]

i'm surprised you're not mad at exos

[grizzled onyx]

and what happened to golem
that fight's peak

[gloomy wedge]

infernum fights but they included catalyst and wotg for some reason

[smoky dock]

why did you fucking fight golem what the hell

[gloomy wedge]

on teh template

[gloomy wedge]

im mad at ares

specifically ares

i said wof was one of the worst fights in modded terraria

ares is the worst

just straight up

[elder wind]

why is old duke not below WoF

[vital mulch]

golem E is a war crime

[gloomy wedge]

i cannot think of a more frustrating concept for a boss than infernum ares

[grizzled onyx]

also
i do agree with most of your high tiers (i have the #1 deerclops enjoyer tag on Reddit)

[nimble wing]

infernum ares is not blushiemagic or master-death golem now is it

[elder nebula]

at least old duke makes you feel something

[gloomy wedge]

i considered it

[grizzled onyx]

infernum old duke is a mess

[elder wind]

also why is yharon in that tier

it's genuinely a decently fun fight imo

[gloomy wedge]

never fought blushie and legdeath golem is better than inf ares

[gloomy wedge]

all you do is run

[grizzled onyx]

eternity duke is soo much better

[gloomy wedge]

the only way i found to fight him is to simply not engage with the fight

keep running as far as you possibly can

never actually engage with him because if you do you explode instantly

its like evil dog

[grizzled onyx]

why is cal in its own tier

[elder wind]

I'm weird ig bcuz I actually stayed decently close to him

[nimble wing]

you can engage freely with infernum yharon by memorizing all of his phases down to the frame!

[faint tangle]

Because she is pretty and they value her greatly

[gloomy wedge]

im gonna be real i only fought him once and when i did it was with reaver tank and i took 6 minutes

i dont care enough to get an accurate opinion on him

the fight looks ok i guess

[vital mulch]

😡

[faint tangle]

Golem is in my s tier because it’s actually a fun fight

[gloomy wedge]

favorite boss in the mod by a significant margin

also would be my favorite boss in modded terraria if not for the meowsynth girl from fargos

[grizzled onyx]

can you link me the tier list you used

[nimble wing]

man, when's the last time i did an infernum tierlist

[gloomy wedge]

https://tiermaker.com/create/fg4weg4ewgfte3rwgr543wegr3eghr-15633791

[grizzled onyx]

of yeah deviant's peak

[gloomy wedge]

idk why thats the cover dont ask me

[nimble wing]

i am going to blow up this thumbnail

[bold pelican]

guys, solyn (wrath of the gods) doenst appear. i beated wall of flesh and skeletron

[gloomy wedge]

honestly might be my favorite boss in any game ever

[elder nebula]

why

[gloomy wedge]

its either her or like, artorias

[elder nebula]

it's cool

[nimble wing]

PLAY SILKSONG ALREADY

[gloomy wedge]

i am

[nimble wing]

ah

[faint tangle]

I need to play fargos

[gloomy wedge]

im losing to ||widow||

[elder wind]

also I have a hot take, infernum providence does NOT deserve S tier. I found the fight unfun and some of the attacks just didn't feel fun to dodge (looking at you, dogma laser)

[gloomy wedge]

its a VERY good game but none of the bosses are any of my absolute favorites

does remind me a lot of old souls games tho

[nimble wing]

spoiler tag...

[gloomy wedge]

shit right sorry

[faint tangle]

All I know about the deviant is that they have a giant “fuck off” axe

[vital mulch]

evil and malicious rng lasers

[bold pelican]

guys, solyn (wrath of the gods) doenst appear. i beated wall of flesh and skeletron

[elder wind]

this

[gloomy wedge]

did you create the world with wrath of the gods

[bold pelican]

yes

[elder wind]

I legit was able to dodge most of the attacks, but the dogma laser is just bs

[vital mulch]

in my opinion somebody should port consort radahn into terraria

[night galleon]

Shes never been a super hard challenge for me but like at the same time all of her moves are like

Perfectly designed

Like theres ZERO bullshit

[gloomy wedge]

i NEED to play masoleg devi at some point

or satanist

either one works

not uhc satanist just regular satanist

[vital mulch]

what does devi do on satanist

[night galleon]

She appears in real life and does your mother

[nimble wing]

in my opinion somebody should make a terraria mod that enables an ice pick to come out of your monitor and stab you through the head

roughly equivalent experience

[vital mulch]

indeed

[elder wind]

also chat

what do you guys think would make sense as yoyo bag upgrades for a calamity yoyo addon

I'm trying to think of some in between the obvious cosmilite one

[gloomy wedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAAzYHHl7GQ

[nimble wing]

i think i would wait for calamity to make its yoyos more interesting before doing that

then you can see what mechanics the yoyos have and build around them

[smoky dock]

I think the yoyo bag is fine in and of itself

[grizzled onyx]

i have a feeling some of you will most likely disagree with this one

[night galleon]

Yoyos need like yoyo tricks in order to be interesting

[smoky dock]

I really like counterweights as a principle

[grizzled onyx]

(btw Noxus is AoE)

[elder wind]

yeah but I'm adding my own yoyos as well

[smoky dock]

i need to remake my pettability list

[night galleon]

Im too fucking angry at life to deal with this

[smoky dock]

the ones i will want to pet

the most

[night galleon]

Ugh

[grizzled onyx]

why
whats wrong with it

[grizzled onyx]

what do you think of my tier list

[vital mulch]

pretty good list the only one I really disagree with is dog

[night galleon]

I cant say its wrong since its all opinion

I think dog is like top 3 lmao

[vital mulch]

and maybe moon lord

[grizzled onyx]

i really dont like dog, but i see your point

[elder wind]

my problem with it is that you upgrade to it right after you get into hardmode, then use it for the entire game

it's just... boring

[vital mulch]

dog is just a silly guy

[smoky dock]

amalgamated brain

[grizzled onyx]

moon lord is peak in infernum though

[elder wind]

...ok that's an exception

[grizzled onyx]

that things just too busted

[elder wind]

BUT AT LEAST YOU EVENTUALLY UPGRADE IT

[smoky dock]

I get it

[nimble wing]

okay back up a minute how does one rank infernum deerclops above avatar

[smoky dock]

entranced by the hands

[grizzled onyx]

infernum deerclops is the best boss

[elder wind]

yoshikage kira wrote this

[grizzled onyx]

although AoE is my second favorite boss

[smoky dock]

🦎 👍

[grizzled onyx]

thats why its that close to the peak of Infernum

they turned a really bad vanilla boss nobody liked into a gorgeous boss fight

[nimble wing]

you can make deerclops good by playing classic mode! hope this helps

[smoky dock]

i want to make an infernum mod that's as close to malware as possible

for example

[gloomy wedge]

deerclops is fundamentally really cool

[grizzled onyx]

but i annihilate it too fast

[gloomy wedge]

just shadow hands ruin everything

[grizzled onyx]

the shadow hands just fumbled hard

[gloomy wedge]

emode deerclops is even better imo

[smoky dock]

deerclops has a 1/1000 chance of not being the infernum varaint but instead the vanilla legendary mode variant

[gloomy wedge]

what does vanilla leg clops do again

[grizzled onyx]

and that thing is one of the worst bosses known to modded terraria

[smoky dock]

nothing

it just hurts more

and eats boolets

[gloomy wedge]

oh

thats lame

[nimble wing]

according to you

[grizzled onyx]

a lot of people think that emode deerclops is pretty bad

[smoky dock]

there are modded terraria bosses that're certified CIA torture techniques

[nimble wing]

i really shouldn't be confused about people having opinions why am i doing that

[grizzled onyx]

what bosses

[gloomy wedge]

every tremor fight

[nimble wing]

i'm supposed to be playing silksong anyway

[grizzled onyx]

tremor?

[grizzled onyx]

go skong

[gloomy wedge]

man its been so long people dont know about tremor anymore

[smoky dock]

i dunno I never played Timmy'sFirstMod.tmod before

[gloomy wedge]

tremor was an absolutely terrible mod back in 1.3 that stole literally half its sprites iirc

it was a completely cobbled together mess and i have no idea why it got popular

[grizzled onyx]

what bullcrap did its bosses pull off

[gloomy wedge]

pretty sure there were these steampunk mechs that were harder than ml

and they were like post plant

[grizzled onyx]

was it as bad as cal overhaul

[gloomy wedge]

no because it wasnt active malware

[grizzled onyx]

ah

great

[grizzled onyx]

well thats not very creative

fight mechs

beat plant

fight EVEN MORE MECHS

[gloomy wedge]

ok i found the actual boss

cog lord, post-golem

[grizzled onyx]

what are its stats

[indigo gale]

Cinnamon Rollyn

[gloomy wedge]

unfortunately the wiki doesnt give any numbers beyond the head

because it had multiple parts

[grizzled onyx]

i see

[gloomy wedge]

i can prob find an old youtube video with it hold on

this wiki is so old its still using default fandom format

[grizzled onyx]

dear god

screw fandom

[gloomy wedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x87nVbJtQI

yes this person is using post ml weapons on this post golem boss

this was very common

[grizzled onyx]

how is that fair

[gloomy wedge]

it wasnt

[grizzled onyx]

what in gods name is that laser attack

[gloomy wedge]

tremor also had the hero shield

[grizzled onyx]

dear god

thats brokwn

[indigo gale]

Chat is this a wrath of the gods reference

[dense ocean]

Nameless Pastry.

[gloomy wedge]

why am i actually nostalgic for old ass shitty ass 1.3 modding lmao

it was so weird back then man

[indigo gale]

Anyone else remember ancients awakened?

[gloomy wedge]

we had ultraconyx

[dense ocean]

What?

[gloomy wedge]

it had this as its final boss

i love ultraconyx

[dense ocean]

Certainly a choice.

[gloomy wedge]

i remember elements unleashed

[neon geyser]

night providence

anything i should change

(infernum)

[tribal pendant]

question about Wrath Of the Gods
i just defeated moon lord with my partners and scalene telescope disappeared shortly after talking with her is that meant to happen? last time it got removed/bugged out i had to start a new world and re fight all the bosses and i dont wanna do that again 😭

[grim swallow]

I dont think the solyn telescope is needed after you use it for the first time

[grim swallow]

Seems good

[neon geyser]

3rd try

[grim swallow]

Maybe change deadshoot or smth but idk for what

[elder nebula]

no it's fine there

[grim swallow]

I actually never killed inf night prov
Should I try to do it pre basic prov

[neon geyser]

anti-matereil rifle + norfleet does so much damage

[grim swallow]

My only experience with night prov infernum that wasnt "oh fuck its nighttime" was bossrush

Bossrush providence is so fucking painful

[bold pelican]

guys, solyn doesnt spawn and the bosses are marked as defeated in boss list

what can i do

[grim swallow]

Have the world been made with wotg or no

[bold pelican]

she wont spawn. skeletron and wof are defeated

[bold pelican]

sure. had no problems with my last playthrough

[grim swallow]

Idk then

Bugs of the gods

[bold pelican]

i tried to summon her via heros mod but i cant

i dont know how those debug items work

[maiden fjord]

Astrageldon - Attempt 66 [start from phase 1] - nohit
2:02 - 83.24% [my current best]

Astral Armor Set

Entropic Claymore

Angel Treads
Empress Wings
Asgard's Valor
Destroyer Emblem
Fire Gauntlet
Celestial Shell

I need to get good at nova lance attack ngl
also the nova slime part on phase 1 is kinda gives me trouble

revengeance mode btw

[smoky dock]

You could probably get away with dropping celshell

I've grown to like Soaring Insignia

Also, it's important to specify, uhhhh

Are you going for an Astrageldon nohit or are you going for a flawless Astrageldon with the special scythe thing or whatever

[light prism]

Had me swimming in sweat bruh, i hate infernum old duke, probably the least enjoyable infernum boss ever.

I switched between cooldowns for Brain and Blazing Core

[maiden fjord]

yea I think a scythe would be neat

[chilly bay]

how do i break these walls?

hitting with hammer seems to just change em a lil bit

[maiden fjord]

that's actuated block I think

[worldly roost]

yea ^ @chilly bay use a pickaxe

[chilly bay]

the polterghast desperation phase does things to me

[chilly bay]

yeah its not a hammerable block i thought it was a background

...

😭

[worldly roost]

dw I've been there

[elder nebula]

wall is in the air? wrong. actuator

[chilly bay]

dude polterghast fight makes me feel things that i shouldnt feel against a game

and its not even unfair im js getting skill gapped 💔

any adjustments?

[elder nebula]

what are you struggling with specifically

[chilly bay]

mainly the dash that leaves behind red dots

as well as the first part of the desperation phase

second part is easy peasy but the first part...

also the attack early on where theres a bunch of like petals around you and he dashes at you

i swear idek how you perfect dodge it

[fluid flax]

flowey?

[chilly bay]

not funny when hes beating my ass for the past hour

😔

[fluid flax]

reminds me of silksong

and how this one boss got me tweakin

[chilly bay]

i swear this guy is hitting me with bs

and those pink things he leaves behind when he dashes

not even the ones that auto track

the ones that dont

1 hr later its finally fallen...

[stable notch]

this thing is gonna end up spawning a boss or something, isn't it?

[chilly bay]

prolly

i was wondering the same thing

is tenryu and virid still the best post polt? i need to fight dog now so

and is bloodflare worth getting over stardust?

[fading dove]

When the fourth flower blooms under the carmine yonder, it shall be brought down.

[fading dove]

all virid vangard on inf dog, tenryuu is too slow

bloodflare has worse damage than stardust but a bit more bulk

[stable notch]

okay now I cant wait for this thing to grow

[chilly bay]

suggestion between that and tarragon for dog? im still ab it scared after last time took me like 200 atmpts

[stable notch]

this mod is so fucking good oh my god

[fading dove]

i forget if tarragon is worth anything on summoner

but ive never seen anyone suggest it for inf dog outside of stealth rogue for its own set bonus

so its probably not worth running

[chilly bay]

okay cool thanks.
do you know when you get ||more of the seeds for the plant? im at predog and i only have 1 other seed there||

[fading dove]

||one from the portal left behind by ceaseless, one from scal, one from mars (post exos), and ofc the one from permafrost's keep which you already have||

[stable notch]

is this enough room for it? It was the best place for it

[fading dove]

uhhh

looks pretty good

[stable notch]

just slapped it on a floating island lmao

or should I have it closer to my base

[chilly bay]

all menacing for dog?

[wicked creek]

Lucky, unless you're summoner, in which case menacing works yeah

Some people still swear by warding tho, and it CAN help you survive one head hit , but only if you're fully healthy, and you do already have cherished sealocket which can help you survive

[chilly bay]

im summoner

[chilly bay]

i do not have cherished sea locket

i just resigned myself to, if i get hit by the head i die

[wicked creek]

I'd really recommend getting it

[chilly bay]

what is this cherished sea locket

[wicked creek]

Wait I forgot to ask, you're in Infernum right?

[chilly bay]

yes

ok bet cherished sea locket

[wicked creek]

Anyways it's a drop from argus, the boss in the lost colosseum

For 2 hits, it reduces damage taken by like 60%

[chilly bay]

whats a melee weapon for DOG?

im also using amalg

[wicked creek]

Death's ascension and lionheart

[worldly roost]

or Terror Blade

[wicked creek]

Not as good for infernum DOG as those two I mentioned tbh

[fading dove]

i like how i called them the right thing even though this is the first time im seeing this

[worldly roost]

ah I forgot I clicked addon-chat

[fading dove]

terror blade to my knowledge is not good on inf dog

[wicked creek]

Same for banshee hook, good for basecal DOG, bad for infernum DOG

[fading dove]

banshee hook is good when you can line up dog

which you can do a grand total of once during the inf fight

and also its way less effective because inf dog has pierce resist

[smoky dock]

Holy Collider is a reasonable option too

It's like baby's first Lion Heart. Lower floor and ceiling

[thorn cedar]

What is this face

[light prism]

What should I place in that empty slot, I'm fighting DoG rn and tbh i don't need more summon slots since Abigail doesn't really benefit from them that much

[wicked creek]

Do you have any add-ons? Or was this chat an accident

[light prism]

I do

it's infernum

[wicked creek]

Have you considered cherished sealocket

[light prism]

yep Abigail only on infernum

[light prism]

i could use that

[molten valley]

is there wiki for infernum for the worthy patch?

or is it same as death mode

[fading dove]

why would there be

its an unsupported difficulty that barely functions if you force it

[dense eagle]

patch only makes it not explode

infernum should only be played on expert normal seed

[molten valley]

Yeah but like does ftw change anything if infernum is enabled

Because they both change ai I think

[dense eagle]

infernum is meant to be played in expert mode

[molten valley]

Yeah I know

[dense eagle]

if you play on smth which change the boss ai like master mode

it will break

[molten valley]

Isn't master mode just stat boost

I played mm and everything was fine

It Only broke when I added eternity

[dense eagle]

in calamity it also changes ai

and devs didnt wanna deal with master so it breaks

[molten valley]

Oh

[dense eagle]

same with getfixedboi and legendary mode

and also fortheworthy

some bosses wont work or be easier

[next trench]

really anything that changes ai outside of expert mode i imagine

[molten valley]

Would be inconvenient to expect bosses not to be harder in ftw

[dense eagle]

mainly cuz they will have less hp but normal ai

[dense eagle]

yes

[molten valley]

so is it even worth trying

just for the fun of it

[next trench]

id go for it

just dont go in with high hopes lolol

[molten valley]

I mean yeah lol

I also wanted to try tmelee on this

[next trench]

you got that 🙏

[molten valley]

happy people believe in me (I will give up after scourge)

[dense eagle]

you wont if he dont spawn

[molten valley]

[grim swallow]

They should add mutants desperation beam properties to nameless beam

[maiden fjord]

ok
Astrageldon - Attempt 130 - nohit
2:13 - 74.21%

Astral armor set
Entropic Claymore + 4 Terraprismas

Angel treads
Empress wings
Asgard's valor
Destroyer emblem
Fire gauntlet
Soaring Insignia [I use miku empress texture pack so it was renamed to 01 Tattoo]

[wicked creek]

If you're using empress wings iirc you don't particularly need angel treads?

Also isn't soaring insignia bad too? Since no more infinite flight

[round zealot]

statis blessing and papyrus scarab stack?

[cedar crystal]

what weapon should i use for astrageldon

nvm swarmer has me

i wonder if i should use hive pack

[round zealot]

is this pre-golem setup correct? i dont think statis blessing and papyrus scarab should be used together no?

[fading dove]

dont use youtube guides

[grim swallow]

Im not sure about scarab stacking with blessing

I know that it stacks with statis curse

[faint tangle]

Nine times out of ten they are outdated

At least it’s better than using the wiki guides

[grim swallow]

Ditch both treads and insignia
Its geldon aka infinite flight man

[fading dove]

valor is :(

[grim swallow]

Valor is not a necessity on geldon

But its not useless

[vocal basalt]

what is wrong with my game?

why is the text so small

[grim swallow]

UI size and shit I think

But why are your rippers and flight time below your minimap😭

[static chasm]

how to fix this problem? after upd few end game weapons just disappeared

[fading dove]

read the description

[dense eagle]

tmod users cant read

[grim swallow]

Tmod users vs a book

[round zealot]

that makes sense, problem is i dont have enough game knowledge to know what is good to use

[dense eagle]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Guide:Class_setups

look at the weapons/armors/accessories on this site on your stage

and experiment with them

[round zealot]

okay cool thanks

[vocal basalt]

what mod settings?

[thin canyon]

wait

is it me

or pbg always enraged on infernum?

[dense eagle]

no?

i always fought him underground

and he didnt enraged

[fading dove]

iirc she enrages outside of the underground

[dense eagle]

might be

[fading dove]

i made a very not jungle underground arena and she didnt enrage

[thin canyon]

yea she didn't enrage underground

and infernum didn't tell anything about enraged on jungle surface

[fading dove]

check the summon description

[thin canyon]

right

im dumb

wait

no

it said enraged outside jungle

[dense eagle]

Can you send screenshot?

[dense eagle]

Damn

[thin canyon]

yea infernum didn't say anything about enrage on the jungle

[fading dove]

the description is changed in inf

[thin canyon]

it does change

what the hell

anyway got her down

[rare horizon]

@fallow wagon just would have been nice for people to just take a chill pill i guess xd

[dense eagle]

Why you pinging here

Just stop

[rare horizon]

bro i wanted to tell him my thought i was told to move here by an admin chill xd

i litteraly clicked where he said if we wanna talk about it and he had this channel

sorry that i might not be liked because i play the game diffrent than what you aprove friend wasnt meant as a disapproval

[honest shadow]

yeah no idea why you got such a response wow

[wicked creek]

Check the pins of this channel to know why calamity overhaul is so hated

[honest shadow]

i know, it still doesnt warrant it

[thin canyon]

i should install wrath of empress

[wicked creek]

Most people aren't heated towards the player, rather they were heated towards the mod itself, and trying to convince the person not to play it because of the known issues

[dense eagle]

We told him what he wanted at the beginning but

We also wanted to try convince him to smth better

[weak spade]

The way they’re describing it is just not true

[pastel hearth]

is grand guardian is post moonlord item now?

[plucky briar]

i am so scared for my life what is happening

[dense ocean]

The fog.

[pliant vortex]

should i get yhon and DronMod

also I heard Plaguebringer Goliath actually enrages outside of underground jungle

[wicked creek]

I heard that Infernum yharon bugs out with yhon

[pliant vortex]

i mean it is stated in the yhon description

[thin canyon]

what

"May kill you" 😭

[thin canyon]

the fog
is coming

(anyway it just an event of wrath of the gods)

[dense ocean]

It's Nuclear Lemonade, of course it may kill you. It may even make a devil cry!

[thin canyon]

Devil what-

imagine

dmc in terraria

[dense ocean]

That will by Yharim 2077.

[fading dove]

i still dont know why goozma mod tries to mask its items origins

[faint tangle]

Finally got to the first laser hell on infernum dog

And I immediately died from lag

[faint tangle]

Second time getting to laser hell

Actually survived this time

[solemn ice]

omniblade is such an s tier weapon for its stage of the game

[wicked creek]

Not particularly? It's easy to use, and it's not a bad weapon, but for true melee at that stage there's even higher DPS options

It does certainly have its uses tho

[round zealot]

how do i get aberration soulstone

[solemn ice]

what is the best true damage option pre plaguebringer because with his drones that make the box shape i get like 10 seconds ish of straight hitting i could use a better weapon it would help

[wicked creek]

Butcher's chainsaw has got really high DPS that could work

[fading dove]

drones are funny because you just tank them and pbg dies before the third ring hits

0:30 killtime with butcher's chainsaw 🥰

[solemn ice]

i just melted his last 50% really quickly

the chainsaw was good

[night rain]

game is punishing me for using brewer bro

5th time today

[forest anchor]

(infernum) how do i go in

sand shark thingy

[dense ocean]

Pause the game.

[forest anchor]

?

oh

[solemn ice]

empress of light 40x harder than any other boss up to this point 😭

[fading dove]

she's pretty tough but nothing too horrible

its really just two attacks

once you master em then she's a piece of cake

[solemn ice]

the one she does the lasers from 40 different directions feels undodgeable

[fading dove]

?

[grim swallow]

The starter?

[solemn ice]

this one

[fading dove]

oh yeah opener

thats 2 directions

sources are: the side of the screen, empress herself (slight delay)

[grim swallow]

The one that I call the gay force

For that you go in a direction non stop and slowly ascend

[solemn ice]

i had a decent attempt there, i got here to 35%

[fading dove]

imo inf empress p1 is the hardest due to having the two of the hardest attacks twice per cycle

[solemn ice]

ahhh i see

she evaporated my entire house of npcs 😭

and we're no where near

from this distance 😭

SHE DID IT AGAIN 😭

[dense ocean]

Your townsfolk are miserable.

[solemn ice]

ok that last moon attack is annoying 😭

[prisma jewel]

Which ones?

[fading dove]

opener and

[prisma jewel]

Huh really? Damn okay

[solemn ice]

i think that one is fine honestly

[fast nacelle]

Is this accessoryless

[fading dove]

it sucks because its damn hard to burst out of getting combod

[fading dove]

preboss

done a while ago

accessoryless would probably be way easier due to lack of 30 minute fight time

[prisma jewel]

The ones I got hit by the most originally were the two sword attacks, fixed it up mostly, I beat infernum 2x hp empress while only taking 1 hit so I think I could no-hit expert infernum empress if I tried hard enough 😭

Infernum empress is thankfully so much nicer to fight than masochist empress

[waxen tide]

daytime terraprisma attack is pretty hard ngl

[solemn ice]

SHES DEAD

flairon my goat

[grim swallow]

Im gonna download every single calamity addon I could find and see how badly I will get shocked in 2 months

[dense ocean]

You will have every bad experience at once.

[grim swallow]

Nvm like every nod after first page when I search calamity is a translation of another shit

[warm rock]

How bad of an idea is it to skip death mode? just finished my first calamity playthrough, did revengeance as melee and found it mostly not too bad except DoG and exomechs took me a handful of attemps (8-10 maybe). I really wanna play infernum but I don't know how extreme the difficulty difference is and if I can try it for the challenge or if I really should do death first

[grim swallow]

I mean
Death wont give you extra knowledge for infernum just mechanical skill

And either way infernum isnt easy

[grim swallow]

Okay im back at the peak part

Yharim worm

[warm rock]

yeah ig my question is can I learn that skill in infernum or is the difficulty so bad that I'll die before even gaining any skill

[grim swallow]

You will learn it

[warm rock]

then off to infernum I shall go I suppose

[grim swallow]

The only similarity between basecal cal clone and infernum cal clone is the ost

Not even the name

Just the music

Okay so I got some addons for my next run
The ones that I have rn are:
WotG
HotOG
CCR
Catalyst
Sloome
Clamity
Calamity entropy
Calamity infinity volume 2
Calamity vanity
The run will also have infernum or fargo dlc

What should I add to this mess

(WotM will be there if im doing infernum)

[solar saddle]

masodeath prime kills me in 2 hits i need help

[grim swallow]

What mechs have you killed

[night fractal]

Storm Weaver Mod and Doze Calamity Weapon Overhaul where

[solar saddle]

destroyer+ twins

[grim swallow]

I also found some storm additions mod that has cross compat with cal

I'll get it

[carmine ferry]

Are there any summoner weapon reworks?

[night fractal]

Cosmic Immaterializer

[carmine ferry]

Oh that’s fire does it make it better or just have cooler effects

[night fractal]

it completely changes it

although I'm not in love with the idea I gave it anymore

[carmine ferry]

Imma have to check it out anyway

Can I add it mid run?

And does it work fine with the typical calamity addons

[grim swallow]

Okay I added those two qnd the other storm mod thingy

I have no idea what the fuck I will see

[night fractal]

OH

I forgot the most important one

Lore accurate devourer of gods

[grim swallow]

I already got it

Anything else you suggest to add

That run must be pn crack

I will do like 1.5x hp because of how much op stuff I will have

Maybe 2x

[steep whale]

doesnt calamity overhaul fix entropic claymore

[nimble wing]

Fix?

[dense ocean]

Calamity Overhaul fixes nothing.

[nimble wing]

I mean maybe it does idk

[dense ocean]

I highly doubt it.

[nimble wing]

But it certainly breaks or sours more than it fixes

[steep whale]

oh yeah it makes entropic claymore super cool and good

[dense ocean]

I doubt that.

[steep whale]

why be hyperbolic

its a big mod

just because it uses stolen code and has had security issues doesnt mean it cant have some good ideas

[dense ocean]

Name one.

[steep whale]

you have to admit this is leagues better than the base entropic claymore

[nimble wing]

CO’s Dragon Rage looks pretty good iirc?

[steep whale]

say what you will about CO but their spritework and weapon vfx/sfx/mechanic reworks are actually pretty good

[nimble wing]

Sure is nice visually

[steep whale]

i did a run with calamity overhaul and it made the claymore actually really good

i was confused when i turned it off and i was like "Wait why does entropic claymore suck now"

[nimble wing]

I mean the projectile is just the DSW projectile but the slash afterimage is really crisp

[wicked creek]

They untrue melee'd it

[grim swallow]

Is there a cal overhaul without stolen code packaged into it

[nimble wing]

Never mind, then!

[steep whale]

yeah THAT i dont like

[wicked creek]

I mean it depends on weapons, there's some really mid ones

[steep whale]

you shouldnt add projectiles to true melee weapons

[nimble wing]

What was I remembering about it anyway

[steep whale]

i like the neutron weapons from calamity overhaul theyre pretty cool

[grim swallow]

Because I wanna fight the new boss but I don't want cal overhaul

[wicked creek]

They did the same for so many weapons? Holy collider? Gone. Grand guardian? True melee no more. Sausage maker? Neither. And I could probably go on but idk the full list

[steep whale]

idk why this sprite is just very nice

this is the attack

[nimble wing]

You can be tasteful about it

Calamity Overhaul Phospho Gauntlet is NOT tasteful about it

[steep whale]

im ngl i think calamity overhaul gets waaay more hate than it deserves, normally when a mod has security issues people are willing to overlook it when it gets fixed but suddenly now its a problem

i wonder what the difference is

[smoky dock]

no it sucks

[steep whale]

yeah its just difficult because there are a lot of bad ideas but some of this artwork and weapon design is genuinely inspired

[nimble wing]

Maybe because some CO features are actually just bad or questionable?

[steep whale]

yeah the quality isnt consistent

they make some weapons incredible and then completely ruin other ones at random

[smoky dock]

this was in reference to entropic claymore btw…

[nimble wing]

Falsified melee weapons, adding reloading to every gun for no reason, Skeletron Prime

[steep whale]

and the whole stolen code thing

[wicked creek]

One, they outright categorically refuse to fix their problems, even huge ones like corrupting files and shit, they said they're not gonna bother

Two, a lot of their stuff is stolen

Three, they're not balanced in the slightest . Some classes get murasama, some other get the ranger treatment where every single gun is heavily nerfed

[steep whale]

have you seen the calamity entropic claymore

its literally unusable

[smoky dock]

i know

That’s good

[steep whale]

whar

[smoky dock]

It’s a true melee weapon which tricks you into thinking it’s fake melee

[wicked creek]

They're the true melee lizard person

[steep whale]

yeah i think thats the main issue is the inconsistency

[smoky dock]

The projetiles it fires are actually bugged they don’t deal damage

[steep whale]

but its not even the best true melee option at tier

[smoky dock]

correct

[wicked creek]

No it's not, the literal gamebreaking issues that they refuse to even attempt to fix is the main issue

The stolen code part is another issue I'd say is bigger than the inconsistency part of it

[nimble wing]

Garfield are you srs or j

[smoky dock]

it’s a genius plot to trick people into playing true melee for life

[steep whale]

idk the stolen code is whatever to me

but thats just me

if someone stole my code for a project neither of us make money on i really don't care tbh, i probably stole half the code from github anyways

[wicked creek]

There's a dime a dozen unbalanced add-ons, and I have no issue with them as to hate them. Just look at entropy, that shit is not balanced in the slightest. But I don't really care about it, because it's not outright malicious

[smoky dock]

/srs

[steep whale]

art is theft

[steep whale]

yeah

thats fair

[nimble wing]

Plenty of modders agree on this if the reused works are credited

[steep whale]

basically what it comes down is that terraria mod space is very precious since you can only add a handful of content mods before the client crashes, so why waste it on a mod thats inconsistant, unbalanced and potentially dangerous when you could just download something epic like calamity vanities

[nimble wing]

Does CO credit what all it uses?

[steep whale]

no

and its difficult because the line between inspiration and theft isnt clear, but i think they cross the inspiration line

into theft

i dont think the mod is good but i do think it has some good ideas

[nimble wing]

I think you’d call that plagiarism but yeah

[steep whale]

the ranger rework is actually really good conceptually its just unbalanced and makes ranger suck

[smoky dock]

which is also good

[steep whale]

wdym

[smoky dock]

anything which funnels players out of using rang*r

[wicked creek]

They're the true melee lizard person, for them if you go further than 10 blocks from an enemy you should do no damage

[steep whale]

its the worst class i dont think it needs any more nerfs

[wicked creek]

No it is not the worst class

[steep whale]

low def, low damage

weapons are hard to use

[night copper]

best setup against goozma on summoner?

[smoky dock]

its armors have the second highest defense values compared to equivalent

And besides, defense in terraria is a binary yes/no system you have to willingly opt out of

[wicked creek]

"low def" -> second highest defense class

"Low damage"-> has hellborn, superradiant slaughterer, and that's not even going into the plenty of other great options it has

"Weapons are hard to use" -> consistently has extremely simple options that either aim directly straight or home in, with some exceptions

[steep whale]

yeah if you have to aim a weapon thats generally considered hard to use imo

i mean we can look at average kill times ranger is consistently the lowest besides mage sometimes

[wicked creek]

No it's not

[wicked creek]

Nah, hard to use IMO is often slow projectiles and/or limited range that ALSO don't home in

Straight, fast projectiles are easy to use

And that's not mentioning that ranger does often have AOE and/or homing options

[fading dove]

aiming a weapon is like bare minimum what

[steep whale]

3 out of 5 classes dont have to aim

[smoky dock]

weapons with homing capabilities tend to be weaker to compensate for the ease of use

[steep whale]

mage weapons generally all having homing, summoner weapons aim for you, and melee is melee

[smoky dock]

Chlorophyte rounds are equal in damage to musket balls, for example

Homing is SUPPOSED to hurt your killtimes because it’s easier to use, y’know?

[steep whale]

yeah but thats only relevant to people who know the boss inside and out and are speed clearing

for the average player homing does more damage

[wicked creek]

Mage weapons do often have homing but there's also ones that are much harder to aim than ranger weapons , especially because the ones that don't home in usually have decently long travel times

And some of the best mage weapons DONT have homing

[steep whale]

yeah we just dont use those

[wicked creek]

That hurts kill times even more

And ranger also has plenty of homing options

[steep whale]

well im not a speed clearer so it doesnt matter

homing does more damage unless youre optimizing and know the fight already

[wicked creek]

Then use the homing ranged options, and/or chlorophyte bullets

Boom, no aim needed

[steep whale]

i could just use mage which also gets homing but does more damage

[wicked creek]

Most of the time it doesn't do more damage than ranger

[fading dove]

omicron is pretty tasty and it doesnt have homing

[wicked creek]

Asteroid staff too for example

[steep whale]

i mean it has hitscan which is close to homing

[wicked creek]

....no it's not hitscan

[steep whale]

its not as good but its miles better than anything with travel time

[fading dove]

omicron is a shotgun

[steep whale]

the laser is hitscan

[smoky dock]

I don’t think hitscan exists in this game

[fading dove]

i also wouldnt call hitscan anywhere near homing

[smoky dock]

It’s just real fast

[steep whale]

plus i could just use light gods brilliance at that tier

because it has homing

[smoky dock]

you could have made up that weapon right now and I would believe you

[fading dove]

isnt light god's brilliance just dust spam

[steep whale]

yeah

or recitation of the beast

what im saying is if you have a weapon that does 100 damage but it has no homing so youre missing half of your shots, and one that does 75 damage but it does have homing so almost all your shots land, the homing one will do more damage

[wicked creek]

You know, pulse rifle is properly hitscan

And it's an A tiered post DOG weapon

[solemn ice]

moonlord beating me up bad rn 😭

[grizzled onyx]

yeah it sucks

[solemn ice]

the tiny eyes they release in the swirl is so annoying 😭

i feel my accessories are a bit washed but im not sure what to swap off

[elder nebula]

what stage

[solemn ice]

just before moonlord

[elder nebula]

swap ursa for the absorber

[wicked creek]

You could probably swap out tracers, fishron wings are fast enough

[elder nebula]

that too

[wicked creek]

And Ursa yeah

Absorber and ambrosial Ampoule would be great to have there defensively

Bloody worm scarf or amalgamated brain for a more balanced approach

[elder nebula]

^

[smoky dock]

That setup is fine

Absorber over celshell or angel treads would be a decent idea

[brisk geyser]

when vsing aquatic scourge is there any accessory that removes the sulphric water poison?

[wicked creek]

Nope, not in infernum

[elder nebula]

i thought shell was good for moonlord

[smoky dock]

Yeah, it is good

Absorber is just good-er

Just because something isn't in the six slots doesn't mean it isn't good, my User

[nimble wing]

Infernum AS forces the acid meter to exist, but sulphurskin potion might work

The fight is specifically designed around the acid meter

[elder nebula]

effigies still disable it though

[tranquil yarrow]

Throw in an effigy of decay.

[night copper]

is temporal umbrella and endogenesis the best endgame loadout ?

[nimble wing]

Wait what happened to true melee

Or are you talking about a different run

[smoky dock]

temporal umbrella, absolutely

endogenesis I'm not so sure about

[wicked creek]

Part of it, yes

Endogenesis, temporal umbrella, lillies, rest of the slots go in mirror iirc?

With Flamsteed ring and universe splitter

[night copper]

thats just mp im still doing tmelee

[nimble wing]

Ah

[night copper]

alright thanks

[heady ridge]

What’s the best mage weapon for scourge

[wicked creek]

Which scourge

[elder nebula]

the scourge scourge

duh

[heady ridge]

Desert

[south karma]

Can someone help me remove this colorful effect after killing the avatar of emptiness?

[wicked creek]

Vilethorn probably kills it really good

[elder nebula]

true

[wicked creek]

Veering wind does for sure too

[dense ocean]

Colourful effect? Did you drink Nilk?

[south karma]

True, I think so, thank you!

Are you talking about the milk that the avatar drops?

[dense ocean]

Yes, that's Nilk.

[solemn ice]

alr ty

[heady ridge]

What do I do if I didn’t get it from the orb

[wicked creek]

Either veering wind or break more

[round zealot]

can someone tell my why martian saucer wont spawn

hes just doing this

[solemn ice]

man the moonlord fireballs are hard to dodge

[lilac scarab]

Best melee setup for infernum DoG?

[wicked creek]

Omega blue armor
Elysian aegis
Elysian wings
Cherished sealocket
Fire gauntlet
Badge of bravery
Warbanner of the sun (can substitute badge of bravery, in that case, put ambrosial Ampoule or one of the items below instead)
Affliciton/amalgamated brain

Weapon wise, lionheart or death's ascension (right click)

[fading dove]

didn't have enough open slots