calamity-addon-talk

[steep whale]

oh and 3 life regen per second if im doing 0 regen stuff

[fast nacelle]

Pre dog

So not Silva wings

Byeah

[hearty slate]

Still, Elysian is more than enough

[steep whale]

imma keep it real 4% crit is more than enough to justify those stat losses, the movsepeed and flight time is a bonus

[hearty slate]

You can just get 4% crit by reforging for lucky on affliction, it's really not that much

[fast nacelle]

Imo using two accessories for more damage and mobility is better

[steep whale]

people use bravery badge which is a very very mid accessory otherwise just because it gives 10% crit

thats almost half a bravery badge

[fast nacelle]

And damage penetration and damage

[steep whale]

5 damage pen is literally

nothing

[fast nacelle]

Depends on the weapon!!

[hearty slate]

badge of bravery isn't mid

[steep whale]

its less damage though

[fast nacelle]

Im not saying you should use affliction I’m saying that it’s better for the accessory worth

[balmy mason]

Badge of Bravery is very good

[fast nacelle]

Affliction is there if you have no clue what you wanna use

[steep whale]

you can view crit as basically %damage x2, so really community gives like 17% damage

[fast nacelle]

No

It

It really isn’t

[balmy mason]

it's not

[fast nacelle]

You’re just wrong

[steep whale]

am i being trolled

if youre doing double damage 4% of the time, thats the same as doing 8% more damage

if you were doing double damage 100% of the time that would be 200% damage

[fast nacelle]

Crit happens before defense so it does slightly less damage, and it doesn’t double it cuz it only happens 4% more of the time, this is equal to just 4% more damage

[steep whale]

thats... thats how critical strike works

[fast nacelle]

You can max out crit at that stage either way very easily

[fast nacelle]

This only happens with x damage amplification

And also it isn’t 4% x 2

It’s like

What is it

104% x (crit chance x 2)

Or something

I forgor

Crit worse than damage either way

Defense system is so fucjing confusing

[sharp sparrow]

holy moly smiley shiny figured it out

[twin patrol]

lebron

THE GOAT

[little steppe]

if damage exceeds 100% I think crit is better

[fast nacelle]

Yeah true

Maybe

Damage is less and less worth all in all

[little steppe]

but if crit exceeds 100% more crit becomes literally useless

[steep whale]

i just dont see how you could say affliction gives more damage

it

[fast nacelle]

And crit can’t really exceed 100% crit

[steep whale]

it gives less damage

than community

[fast nacelle]

It gives less damage but more defense

[little steppe]

affliction gives more bulk

[fast nacelle]

Case closed

[twin patrol]

THANK YOU WE GOT IT WORKING

[steep whale]

3 def and 1% damage reduction is

nothing

[fast nacelle]

Is very good

[little steppe]

didnt it give regen too

[fast nacelle]

Quite worth it

[steep whale]

its literally nothing, especially at that stage

[fast nacelle]

Yeah

[little steppe]

[fast nacelle]

Better than mobility

And 4% crit

[steep whale]

you know damage reduction has diminishing returns, right?

[fast nacelle]

Yes and if you’re doing infernum dog you probably aren’t using defensive accessories

[steep whale]

yeah so

i wonder what sort of accessory

would give more damage

and less defense for dog

[fast nacelle]

Ok

So

If you got

10% dr

Next dr is like

0.5% dr

[steep whale]

i just dont understand why you wouldnt be using warbanner, community, badge of bravery, amalgamated brain, fire gauntlet, elysian wings, elysian aegis on dog

[hearty slate]

The exact formula is: Effective DR = 1 - 1/(1+ In game DR)

[fast nacelle]

With dog doing like 800 damage

That’s like 4 defense

[hearty slate]

DR is in decimals btw

[little steppe]

beacuse community SUCKS and should be KILLED

[fast nacelle]

I didn’t even recommend affliction I just said it was better than community pre dog

[little steppe]

go my cherished sealocket

[fast nacelle]

Yea

[steep whale]

i like doing more damage

[fast nacelle]

This

[steep whale]

but its better for dog

than affliction

[fast nacelle]

Maybe but it’s still mid

[steep whale]

dog hits me with affliction, im down to 30 hp, im doing 100 dps

dog hits me with community, im down to 29 hp, im doing 105 dps

[fast nacelle]

I really don’t wanna explain defense

@little steppe help me 🥺

[little steppe]

defense is janky

[steep whale]

yeah you know whats better than defense

[little steppe]

I dont wanna

[fast nacelle]

Nothing

[steep whale]

movespeed and flight time so i dont get hit in the first place

[noble summit]

should u fight dragonfoly pre ml

[fast nacelle]

Well you already got enough

[little steppe]

you only need to know that more defense = better defense you get

unlike damage

[fast nacelle]

Not recommended but it’s possible and it’s quite fun

[little steppe]

more damage = get less damage

[fast nacelle]

Do it if you want

[steep whale]

im starting to understand why you mfers took like 200 deaths to kill old duke

[fast nacelle]

I haven’t killed od in a while

Last time it took like 3 attempts or so

[little steppe]

me neither

[steep whale]

im talking about the first time

[fast nacelle]

Summoner minionless is having a chokehold on me

[fast nacelle]

Oh

Yeah about like 20

[little steppe]

I just dont kill od

at all

[steep whale]

why hes easy

if you have good movespeed

[little steppe]

unfun boss that gives me nothing

[fast nacelle]

This was in 2021 and I was fucking 10

[steep whale]

but hes easy and fun

[little steppe]

he is unfun

atleast to me

[steep whale]

also saying community is bad pre dog is wild when it mogs most other accessories as soon as you get it

[nimble wing]

In a regular playthrough I ignore Old Duke purely out of principle

[steep whale]

i like having extra hp actually i think

[little steppe]

extra hp is like the worst defensive stat

its good to have, yes

but I prefer dr, defense or regen

[azure olive]

what do i use against aastrum aureus

[fast nacelle]

Ok so community by principle is good like always good but every stat has something it’s better than, you’re using community as filler and filler accessories are usually for defense

[steep whale]

it gives you like 50 hp, thats 2 permanent upgrades worth

[wicked creek]

That's not true in the slightest

I'm not saying community is "bad" pre DOG but there's just more, better accessories

[fast nacelle]

REGEN MY BELOVED

[fast nacelle]

Yeah I said it’s the epitome of mud

Mid

[azure olive]

also, why when he goes of screen he enrages?

[wicked creek]

What class? Rogue?

[azure olive]

ye

[wicked creek]

Crushsaw crusher should still be good

[little steppe]

at the cost of an accesory slot that could be ursa sergeant, ambrosial ampoule, absorber, amalgamated brain...

[fast nacelle]

Ya

[steep whale]

alright which youtuber made a video essay about community theres no way so many people have the exact same opinion without getting it from a youtuber

[fast nacelle]

Or if you’re summoner just more minion slots

[azure olive]

that just prevents me from dodging

[fast nacelle]

No one

[steep whale]

community over absorber

[little steppe]

no one

[fast nacelle]

It’s common knowledge

[steep whale]

just like

lol

[fast nacelle]

Ask prikki

Or silvaheart

[wicked creek]

Or maybe it's just you having one opinion that's not widely shared because most other people prefer other accessories in their builds

[fast nacelle]

Or gp

[little steppe]

we dont watch calamity sloptube

[fast nacelle]

Or any other good calamity person in here

[little steppe]

there are people who just did a lot of testing

[fast nacelle]

My knowledge has been passed down from them

[balmy mason]

there's always thing to put in instead of Community for minmax

[steep whale]

absorber is awesome i love having less stats and removing debuffs that dont exist in infernum

[wicked creek]

We've had this discussion last night

[little steppe]

what

[steep whale]

yeah and i was right

[wicked creek]

No you weren't

[steep whale]

absorber gives less stats in everything except effective damage reduction

[fast nacelle]

Yeah this and even if you aren’t minmaxing you already use accessories for designated things that community does more of than affliction but less of the stuff you have already

Also

[steep whale]

do we need to go over this again

[fast nacelle]

Defense

And shit

[wicked creek]

And Regen, and defense, and movement speed

[fast nacelle]

Absorber is just broken

[azure olive]

heelp

[fast nacelle]

It like negates the entirety of debuff minmaxing damage with everclear and Moscow mule

[steep whale]

i just think we dont play the game the same way

[wicked creek]

@steep whale remember the message I sent literally yesterday

And this was without an affliction comparison

[fast nacelle]

Yeah it’s a single player game, but we’re talking what’s objectively better

[little steppe]

are you sure its night time

[steep whale]

when i lose to a boss i dont go "okay now let me stack as many defensive accessories and heart statues as i can to make it easier" i go "okay i will learn that attack and dodge it in the future while using damage accessories"

[fast nacelle]

There is still a meta

[wicked creek]

If you wanted to go "damage accessories" you wouldn't use community

There's better stuff for that

[fast nacelle]

Yeah that is still unoptimal

[steep whale]

yeah like affliction

[fast nacelle]

And as we said community just does things worse

[fast nacelle]

Affliction nor community isn’t meant for minmaxing it’s meant to be for rounded out builds

[little steppe]

dude you are still stuck on affliction

[nimble wing]

If anything, I don’t build defense precisely because I know how good defense is

I want to, you know, play the game

[fast nacelle]

Ya

If you want to learn the attacks

No hit

That’s what I’m doing

[steep whale]

but you guys are the ones advocating for defensive accessories?

[fast nacelle]

Yes

Very much so

It’s broken as hell

[nimble wing]

NO

[fast nacelle]

:P

[steep whale]

yeah if i wanted to play the game in easy mode i would just turn on godmode

[fast nacelle]

I was joking

[steep whale]

like

what are we doing here

[azure olive]

it is night time

[little steppe]

uuuuhhh no clue then

[fast nacelle]

Yeah that’s precisely it, you want it to be easier

[little steppe]

it also happened to me a while ago its weird

[nimble wing]

Now if I’m fighting Infernum Polter or something I will absolutely build defense because I can’t stand Infernum Polter

[fast nacelle]

That’s what stuff is for, to make it easier

[steep whale]

"let me play the hard difficulty mod and instead of learning attack patterns i will just stack amalgam, absorber, ambrosial ampuole, sea locket, and chalice"

[fast nacelle]

You still have to dodge you know

You can’t facetank

You have to dodge still

[steep whale]

[wicked creek]

My builds are nonsense because I build using defensive accessories mostly, with 1 or 2 damage accessories usually.....

And then I use lucky reforges because warding is for cowards /j

[nimble wing]

@rare jacinth Reply ping this with your Infernum Moon Lord video please

[fast nacelle]

You can’t facetank WITH PHYSICAL ATTACKS OK?!

[steep whale]

i dont want it to be easier i want to learn the game

[rare jacinth]

it's not mine and it only works because infernum doesn't have much defense damage

[hearty slate]

ok that's just infernum tbf

[fast nacelle]

Yeah and I’m talking objectively

[rare jacinth]

but skelli is right there are very few bosses you can facetank

[nimble wing]

Forgor, sorry

[rare jacinth]

one of the ones I can think of us deus

[steep whale]

if i wanted to play dark souls on easy mode i would level hp only and use a shield, but i dont do that because you are trying to get a simulated sense of accomplishment from doing nothing

[rare jacinth]

body has no defense damage

[fast nacelle]

NOT forgiven

[rare jacinth]

so you can sit inside it and be awesome

[fast nacelle]

Into the stink chamber

[steep whale]

objectively you would use only damage accessories and just dodge every hit

if you wanted to play optimally

[fast nacelle]

Yeah and you would unoptimally take more time cuz you have to die multiple times to learn an attack

[little steppe]

yeah beacuse we all like to skip phases with op weapons and damage accesories that sure makes the game harder

[fast nacelle]

REAL

That’s why I love minmaxing MOVEMENT

[steep whale]

that relies on you knowing all the attacks beforehand though

[fast nacelle]

I go NYOOOOMMM

[little steppe]

TRUE

[fast nacelle]

I can’t decide whether I like regen or jump speed more tbh

[little steppe]

whatever, go my frog leg

[steep whale]

doing nohit because you know every move and use damage accessories to make the fight 30 seconds and playing through the entire game with 6 defensive accessories and wings are the same thing to me, theyre bereft of spirit

[fast nacelle]

Whatever go my overturned pre boss accessory that’s like viable for movement until statis ninja gear

[fast nacelle]

Idk what bereft of spirit is

[steep whale]

idk how to explain this without coming off as rude

[little steppe]

bereft vassal

[fast nacelle]

Real

[fast nacelle]

Yeah sure go for it

[steep whale]

i think its finding enjoyment in the wrong places

[heady ridge]

whast the best weapon for scal

summoner

[little steppe]

who cares

its enjoyment

[steep whale]

yeah but like

[little steppe]

do whatever you want no one really cares

[steep whale]

you didnt really play the game

[little steppe]

[fast nacelle]

No that’s just stupid

[steep whale]

you just subverted the game

[fast nacelle]

The game isn’t only boss fights

[steep whale]

if thats what you wanted to do thats fine, but i think youre robbing yourself of the experience

[little steppe]

yeah everyone knows theres only ONE way to play a sandbox game

[fast nacelle]

You can say defense builds are no skill you can say movement skills are no skill you can say damage builds are no skill

[steep whale]

yeah i agree thats why i think veinminer is also questionable behavior

[waxen tide]

pre or post exos

[heady ridge]

post

[steep whale]

like 90% of infernum players are like "20 qol mods on, 6 defensive accessories, summoner, yep gaming time" like i think youd just find more enjoyment in other games since it seems like you dont actually like terraria

[waxen tide]

ares exoskeleton + lilies of finality rest mechworm

[heady ridge]

no one wnats to dfucking farm potions for hours bro

[wicked creek]

Rude

Me and my like 200 killed dreadnautilus this playthrough disagree

[fast nacelle]

Yeah and so what

[balmy mason]

Veinminer is awesooomme!!!

[wicked creek]

I have 0 QOL mods

[balmy mason]

it gives such great satisfaction sounds

[little steppe]

any way to play the game that you enjoy is the good way to play it

it's just that simple

[hearty slate]

^^^^^^^^

[fast nacelle]

I have 3 usually but I have 7 cuz specific stuff I don’t want to scour the mod browser for

[balmy mason]

Veinminer gives one of the best satisfactory feelings ever

[nimble wing]

These people do not use defensive accessories and you know it

But yeah

[fast nacelle]

I like veinminung planetoid ore

Very satisfying imo

[balmy mason]

TRUE

holy shit that's so good

[steep whale]

yeah some qol is just reasonable because calamity wasnt balanced around base game farming, some is like "okay you can buy every block immediately and also every potion and also you mine everything instantly and also you can craft every accessory"

[fast nacelle]

Yeah so what?

[steep whale]

"and you build every house instantly and every arena instantly"

[heady ridge]

tell me you have enough time and are unemployed without telling me you are

[nimble wing]

Guess how much of what you just said is from Calamity

[heady ridge]

like fuck off dude

[steep whale]

a lot of it is fargos fault

to be fair

[fast nacelle]

I build stuff and make farms too I’m not unemployed

[steep whale]

some fargo recipes are

questionable

[fast nacelle]

Like I am but I have school

[nimble wing]

That too, though we’re working on it

[fast nacelle]

But like 200 hours over 10 months isn’t horrid

[heady ridge]

bro no way

[nimble wing]

Mutant’s gonna get nerfed a lot

[heady ridge]

do i ahve to kill ares last

to ge texo

[little steppe]

seems fait enough

[heady ridge]

or can i buy the bagh

[steep whale]

okay but if youre removing building with qol, and mining, and exploring, and also using 5+ defensive accessories to trivialize bosses, what is there even left in the game?

[heady ridge]

the main point??? bosses

[little steppe]

bosses arent everything but okay

[nimble wing]

The main point of Terraria is whatever you make it out to be

[fast nacelle]

You’re talking about subjective stuff

[little steppe]

true

[heady ridge]

syfm

[nimble wing]

The main point of Fabsol’s Calamity is bosses. That is a problem.

[heady ridge]

its not

[steep whale]

but if youre using the most braindead strategy possible to beat them in the shortest time possible then you arent really fighting them?

[heady ridge]

2D doiesnt allow much building

[fast nacelle]

I like building, mining, exploring and fighting bosses but I’ve done it all for so many hours of my life

Wait can someone calculate 4k hours into days

[little steppe]

thats what you were saying

defense build do not infact get the shortest kt

or atleast not most of the time

[fast nacelle]

I like building cuz of it being 2d

[steep whale]

im talking about shortest completion time for a new ish player

[fast nacelle]

Creative constraints and all that

[heady ridge]

can the treasure bag the alch npc drops contain the loot that ares drops when you kill him, last or not

[steep whale]

getting shortest kill time requires you to know every boss perfectly already

[fast nacelle]

Iirc no

[heady ridge]

fuck sake bro

im not doing all of that again

[steep whale]

if you wanted to beat the game as fast as possible as a player with no experience you would use max defensive accessories and summoner

[little steppe]

or just sit inside the boss hitbox and true melee

I'm just sayin..

[fast nacelle]

REAL

[steep whale]

true,,

but they dont know about heart statues

theyre not ready for that

[little steppe]

who uses heart statues

[heady ridge]

is gem tech better thgan auric

[steep whale]

how it feels to cover every tile in the arena with heart statues on a timer

[nimble wing]

I enjoy true melee when I both don’t have to do that and can’t do it anyway

[fast nacelle]

Me so I can use 5 alcohols

[steep whale]

how it feels to use everclear and community for 25% damage and 3 regen

[little steppe]

if you get hit too much go auric

[waxen tide]

no

[little steppe]

if you get hit you lose a chunk of gemtech's bonus set for like 30 seconds

[steep whale]

how it feels to get 1 shot because you used everclear so the regen doesnt even matter

[hearty slate]

Why would you use community for either of those stats?

[heady ridge]

i cant get ares exo whats the best for scal

[little steppe]

this is true

[wicked creek]

Only if you use multiple classes and/or are a nohitter

[steep whale]

everclear needs a buff its the only alcohol that gives you worse stats than the downside

and it counts as 2

and -5 regen

[steep whale]

multiclass unlocked

just in time for final boss

do nohitters even use everclear

[heady ridge]

is the 3rd alyer of abyss

the one with

scoria

[wicked creek]

I mean, there kinda is fearmonger too

And omega blue also can do with multiclass

And astral before that

[steep whale]

yeah i multiclass

its called summoning 3 brittle stars for +15 def in my melee run

[little steppe]

yeah

sometimes

[worn grove]

Chat is this good enough for goozma

[little steppe]

Scommunity over PSA

[worn grove]

I wish i had a better pc cuz it crashes every time i fight goozma😭😭

Please😭

[steep whale]

what are those first 2 accessories

[nimble wing]

Nucleogenesis (Obligatory Minion Slot Stick) and Profaned Soul Artifact (meh)

[steep whale]

ohhh yeah i see your problem

[nimble wing]

Swap PSA for Rampart and Radiance for Darksun Ring

[steep whale]

yeah you have profaned soul artifact on and not dark sun ring

and radiance which is bad

its okay

[nimble wing]

Radiance is great, but only in base Calamity alone because it depends on everything ever having a mandatory damaging debuff (and that’s not true of addons)

[steep whale]

yeah its bad in infernum specifically imo because like

no debuffs ever

if you were to swap out radiance for another defensive item, i like chalice more

personally

or rampart

[worn grove]

Ok goozma crash my pc great

[nimble wing]

Chalice is also mostly good in base alone because of Radiance synergy

[worn grove]

I have SCommunity is it good?

[night copper]

endo hydra plus mirror of kalandra is the best post DoG right

[teal crag]

best melee weapon for infer king slime

[north bough]

Infernum Yharon was kind of a let down 😭

171 attempts for DoG, 7 attempts for Yharon

[teal crag]

thats how it always is with dog

[north bough]

DoG was the most fun I've ever had with any boss in any video game tbh

[teal crag]

theres a difficulty gap with devourer

[nimble wing]

Based!

[north bough]

Is DoG harder than Exo and Scal then? Revengenace Exo was kinda tricky but Revengeance Scal was first try for me

[nimble wing]

Sure he has no mechanical buildup or training at all, sure he’s overly punishing on top of that, but he’s SO much fun to control once you figure him out

[north bough]

So real

[teal crag]

are you on infernum

[north bough]

yes

[teal crag]

dog is gonna be harder on the first playthrough

is he actually harder than exo or scal? no

[north bough]

DoG always felt so fair, just difficult. Always knowing what you need to do just needing to execute and practicing that over and over

Yeah DoG does feel really learnable

[teal crag]

yes

bro

ngl

[viscid scaffold]

He was always fair

[teal crag]

693 attempts 💔

[north bough]

Kinda like Roaring Knight in Deltarune tbh, I took like 3 hours to beat that mf on my first attempt but now I can beat it like 9 times out of 10 attempts

[viscid scaffold]

Just new players who can’t exactly comprehend 500 damage in a single hit will be turned away

[nimble wing]

DoG becomes kinda easy if you do manage to figure him out, and he’s one of the easiest Infernum nohits

[teal crag]

✅

[viscid scaffold]

Dog is ram spam and mount camping

[north bough]

Yeahhhh DoG made me go from full warding to a 98 defense build lmao, my successful run after 171 attempts was a no hit!

Basically a do or die build lmao

[viscid scaffold]

Portal hops is 5 jumps before a 6th delayed jump

[north bough]

That delayed jump is where I always failed

I got there like 20 times out of those 171 attempts but just could not fuckin get it until I finally did

[viscid scaffold]

I didn’t know it was 6 portal hops for a while but after I learned, I counted how many seconds it takes for the delayed

And I tape a post it to my top right computer

[elder nebula]

lol

[viscid scaffold]

I don’t need to see the mana usage or hp

If I die I die

[nimble wing]

Das crazy

[viscid scaffold]

Anyways as mage you should only be using 50% of your max mana cause it regenerates faster the more you got

[north bough]

Also idk if it's just me or what but up until Guardians Infernum kinda felt easier than revengeance, maybe because the bosses are more fair and less random projectile spam

[grizzled island]

any tips for infernum old duke last phase

[north bough]

Guardians onwards definitely way harder though so far

[grizzled island]

ts pmo

[viscid scaffold]

Phos gauntlet

And omega blue

Just those two things

[grizzled island]

what about for summoner

i aint switching class for 1 bos

do i just gotta get better

[viscid scaffold]

You can literally do old duke with that weapon and armor set hitless, no accessories

[viscid scaffold]

Phos gauntlet is easier for Duke since summons struggle to hit him

Except for the summons with homing attacks or latch onto enemies

[grizzled island]

polterghast summon got good dps

i just keep dying to those cooked dashes

[viscid scaffold]

Phos gauntlet

Makes it irrelevant

[grizzled island]

lol ill try it

[nimble wing]

What about Guidelight?

[viscid scaffold]

You don’t even have to switch classes with its high dmg, but I recommend it

[viscid scaffold]

Never heard of it

Always just used phos gauntlet cause of the damage and iframes

And it’s a dodge weapon

I just realized old duke is gonna have 93,600,000 hp

Phos gauntlet>>>

Also I hope everyone thinks it’s reasonable I reduced banner kill requirements by half so common enemies cost 25 kills and rare enemies cost 12 or 13 I forgot cause if I didn’t epic gamer mowing sessions ™ would take 30 hours

[alpine temple]

So like I'm playing infernum ranger, I'm post polter and I just realized I havent switched the boots accessory out, any suggestions?

[elder nebula]

you only need diving suit when in the abyss😭

anyway uhh get absorber and

idk

[alpine temple]

I know I'm going into abyss now

[elder nebula]

what's there normally

[alpine temple]

uh destroyer emblem

[elder nebula]

[alpine temple]

DONT JUDGE ME

Is daawnlight good?

[elder nebula]

no

[dusty cobalt]

I only know it being good with heavenly gale

[alpine temple]

sadge

[north bough]

Is Lilies of Finality a solid weapon? I wanna add it to Mirror and Yharon Kindle but idk if it is gonna be worse than just using more mech segments

[humble marlin]

mech over kindle

amd yeah

tesla arms are stronger than kindle staff

[north bough]

Oof really? Kindle is so drippy looking lol

Although it looks different to what I remember

[humble marlin]

yeah-

they are just mid sadly

[north bough]

I haven't played since like 2017 lmao

[humble marlin]

not terrible nor outstanding

[night copper]

isnt the fact that u can use non summoner weapons w the fearmonger armour insane?

[humble marlin]

-# (yes but dont tell anyone)

[night copper]

what do u even use

[humble marlin]

mirrors

[night copper]

?

[humble marlin]

mirrors of kalandra

[night copper]

i meant cuz of this

im using mirror and hydra rn

[humble marlin]

thats a good combo yeah

[night copper]

not sure if hydra or mechworm tho

[humble marlin]

usually its 5 mirrors 3 mechworms and the rest of the slots hydras

[night copper]

ohhhh

im just using fearmonger i heard its the best

[humble marlin]

kinda

solid damange and insane defense

[spare summit]

You mainly wanna use it as a hybrid summoner but yeah it’s broken, arguably better than auric

[night copper]

hm icic

well im unsure if ill js keep it whjen i can get auric or not

[teal crag]

what do we get for king slime

[nimble wing]

Warding

Beyond that, this is an acceptable build

What weapons

[grizzled garden]

Which mech should i fight first for summoner? Exo mechs

infernum

[carmine ferry]

Ares imo

[grizzled garden]

For infernum?

[carmine ferry]

That’s what I did to beat them

Ye

Felt the easiest

I tried starting with all 3

I did Ares + Artemis/Apollo

For the attempt I beat them

[grizzled garden]

How am i supposed to dodge artemis

[teal crag]

fury

[noble summit]

dawg empress randomly despawned during the desperation phase

[grim swallow]

he was the only one I actually no hitted

[grizzled garden]

I dont understand artemis and apollo bruh

[grizzled island]

old duke so buns bro ive died like 5 times on 3%

[forest anchor]

i cannot find the mod for this health bar thingy anywhere can you guys help me

[elder nebula]

infernum

[forest anchor]

what

wdym

[elder nebula]

it's from infernum

[forest anchor]

i have infernum

i don't have this

[elder nebula]

change it in settings

in the pause menu

interface i think

[forest anchor]

cool

[night copper]

could somebody help me in a sec and look at my loadout

[grim swallow]

send it here

[night copper]

Idk what to use the last Slot for

[grim swallow]

this for yharon?

[night copper]

Just pre yharon right now yeah

[forest anchor]

-# you don't have to take a picture of your monitor just get snipping tool

[grizzled garden]

Wings?

[night copper]

I couldnt be arsed

I know

[grizzled garden]

My fault didnt see wing slot

[grim swallow]

since you have boot slot get angel treads

[night copper]

Silva wings

[grizzled garden]

Amalgam

[grim swallow]

also from your build it seems like you are monoclassing

[grizzled garden]

Is what im using

[grim swallow]

for monoclass fearmonger is mid

[night copper]

How am i monoclassing

[grizzled garden]

Basically the same spot im just post yharon

but do silva

[grim swallow]

throw the damn tracers away

[alpine temple]

So like what ranger weapon is good for dog?

[night copper]

Oh Wait nvm yeah

[grizzled garden]

Fearmonger is for summoner + any other class

[night copper]

Youre right

[grim swallow]

you have a lot of summoner accesories
if you are gonna do mage+summoner get the post dog mage accesorry

[grizzled garden]

since it gets rid of the penalty for classes

[night copper]

I just wasnt sure what weapon to use cuz i wanted to play mage + summoner

[grizzled garden]

But anyways, Switch to silva if you dont wanna do all that

[night copper]

And if its Even worth it

[night copper]

Yeah true

[grizzled garden]

thats what i did personally just switch to silva

[grim swallow]

silva armor is insanely good tho

[grizzled garden]

Nah

[grim swallow]

[grizzled garden]

Fr especially with wings

[night copper]

Is monoclassing bad?

[grim swallow]

not really

[grizzled garden]

I did catalyst and i got intergalactic armor fr

[night copper]

Is mage and summoner better than just summoner?

Cuz i really Like the fearmonger armour

[grim swallow]

I personally never multiclassed but thats me

[grizzled garden]

I think summoner itself is good enough, but do you like fearmonger cause how it looks or cause of the set bonus

[night copper]

Both

[grizzled garden]

If you multiclass id say look up a good weapon

[night copper]

Dont I also Need accesories from the other class

[night copper]

For monoclass silva is better right

[heady ridge]

fastest way to kill scal as summoner

etherial is good right?

[teal crag]

whats the best king slime weapon

melee

[gloomy wedge]

flamarang

[teal crag]

how am i supposed to mine hellstone to get this

if you need scale/tissue for the pickaxe to mine hellstone

[gloomy wedge]

reaver shark

[reef skiff]

is nameless deity supposed to crash my game after i pass or did i just get extremely unlucky

[teal crag]

💔

[gloomy wedge]

hes supposed to send you back to the title screen, but it should be fine really

you still get the drops

[reef skiff]

it said NET host is not responding

lets hope

[royal jackal]

should i use hydrothermic or plaguebringer armor for astrageldon

[gleaming cairn]

are you a summoner

[royal jackal]

yeah forgot to mention that sorry

[wicked creek]

Valhalla knight has the best defensive setup for summoner at that point, so my recommendation would probably be that

Between hydrothermic and plaguebringer, hydrothermic would do more damage with the vent minion, but because astrageldon has timed damage reduction, I'd use plaguebringer instead because it frees up an accessory slot

[spare summit]

With the eidolon wyrm weapons and fearmonger yes

Eye of madness and illusioner’s reverie are crazy

Idk if you need both nucleogenesis and ethereal talisman, you can use both but if you can swap nucleogenesis for a defensive accessory if you really want

Definitely use dark sun ring tho

Lilies of finality + 5 Kalandra as your minions

[spare summit]

Corinth prime right click

[night copper]

When do u kill the wyrm

[spare summit]

I’d recommend it, it’s really fun

[spare summit]

Post yharon

[night copper]

I feel like summoner and mage is cool

Despite how strong it is

[night copper]

Alright alright

[spare summit]

If this is for yharon then I think galaxia is a weapon that’s both cool and does some of the best damage you can get

[night copper]

Im on yharon right now

[spare summit]

Voltaic climax is fine if you wanna stick to mage

[night copper]

Im using mirror mechworm and the hydra plus this one rogue weapon that u can craft from the cosmolite Bars

Since i wasnt sure what magic weapon

[dawn abyss]

kinda struggling with infernum old duke on mage, is the vitriolic viper even that good for dog or can i just use a different weapon?

[night copper]

Are magic weapons Even Usedom in General against yharon

[spare summit]

Voltaic climax is good, exe blade is decent too

[tardy cedar]

you can use anything else but the weapon from old duke is REALLY good

[spare summit]

It’s probably the best mage weapon for dog unfortunately

[dawn abyss]

i can get him to final stage consistently but from then on its a skill issue 😭

[night copper]

Do you Need Any accesories from mage if I wanna use Both

[spare summit]

Ethereal talisman is a mage accessory

Definitely use it

[night copper]

Alright alright

I have more of a monoclass setup so i was wondering

[tardy cedar]

I meant phosphoscrent gauntlet

[spare summit]

Idk if you wanna do nucleogenesis since that’s the summon accessory

But dark sun ring is basically mandatory on fearmonger builds

[dawn abyss]

my current build

[night copper]

I have one slot free with nucleogenesis equipped

So i suppose it should be Fine

I could send the loadout in idk

[spare summit]

Get omega blue armor

[alpine temple]

Does god slaying slug not work with rubico?

[tardy cedar]

nothing much to improve for od icl but if you're skipping to dog use Omegle blue armor

[spare summit]

Oh if that’s for old duke get prismatic

[dawn abyss]

isnt that melee?

[spare summit]

Mage always has better options than bloodflare

[tardy cedar]

It's really absurd with iframes

I'll show you a demo

[spare summit]

Technically yes but it’s for movement

Not really a weapon

[dawn abyss]

i have prismatic but idk if it will help cause of how insane duke dashes

[spare summit]

It really helps burst him down in his bullshit last phase

When you use the lasers

[tardy cedar]

https://youtu.be/qrfcpIFYPhk?si=14hZF_9izzS7aHj2

[dawn abyss]

oh true

[dawn abyss]

thats insane 😭

[tardy cedar]

yeah it's an awesome weapon

[dawn abyss]

should i use the ghastly visage or the phantasmal fury for the final stage

i saw someone use the second option to spam

[spare summit]

I like phantasmal fury and fate’s reveal

[dawn abyss]

for the whole fight?

[spare summit]

Yeah

[dawn abyss]

fair

ima try again with the armor and see if it helps

god i hate the pre dog stage

post dog is so fun though

[spare summit]

At least it’s not dog and yharon and exos

Scal redeems post polter a little at least

[grim swallow]

Exos are sorta fun

[dawn abyss]

at some stages of the game yoyo only is actually more easier than mage 😭

[dawn abyss]

until you just get touched

[nimble wing]

Exos can be fun or at least close to fun depending on route

[grim swallow]

Yeah

But I can admit exos have bs

[spare summit]

Mods throw him into the abyss with no diving suit

[nimble wing]

I love DoG given I actually know how to control him, and Yharon is something resembling fun if you’re true melee

[dawn abyss]

im using wrath of the machines though so maybe it will be more fun

[wicked creek]

I've had tons of fun with ares 1st, then ares twins as duo phase

[grim swallow]

Im just biased towards exos cuz I love draedon

[dawn abyss]

all fun and games until you run out of flight

[grim swallow]

Oh WotM exos are hella cool

Lucille is really good at making cool looking pc evaporating fights

[dawn abyss]

very true

i played the multiplayer fix for wotg and it was fun

[nimble wing]

And Nameless, who looks cool and works cool and runs cool

[dawn abyss]

have yet to play it solo though

[spare summit]

Yharon is just big old duke
It’s tolerable with galaxia I guess

[wicked creek]

Well they're noticeably more cinematic

But also noticeably easier

[nimble wing]

You’re implying easier is bad

[dawn abyss]

since wotg has to be enabled for world gen i need to make a new playthrough for that after my current

what class should i play?

[grim swallow]

Tmelee

[spare summit]

Classless

[gloomy wedge]

summoner

[nimble wing]

Melee but only pick the cool/fun/suboptimal options (that definitely includes true melee)

[grim swallow]

A fight should be moderate difficulty

[dawn abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/cigar-bet-voices-skeleton-tear-off-skin-gif-25288593

summoner was fun in my infernum playthrough tbf

[royal jackal]

how op are astrageldon's rewards? (like the armor and weapons), will they make progression way easier if i use them or are they balanced? (i'm also playing with the infernum mod and wotg)

[dusty cobalt]

Yharon tolerable with all classes

[grim swallow]

Not "I first tried this with my abyss and mining loadouts" and not "saw my balls off with a chainsaw just dont let me fight ts again)

[grim swallow]

Unbalanced

[elder nebula]

they're as strong as post provi

[grim swallow]

They should be that tier

[royal jackal]

damn

[elder nebula]

just don't use them until then

[spare summit]

They’re viable until post dog lol

[royal jackal]

so i just wait till providence to use them?

[wicked creek]

They're not balanced for when you obtain them compared to normal gear, they're viable until around post providence, by design

[grim swallow]

In actuality they are post polterghast level of insanity (armor)

[wicked creek]

Some even post polter

[dusty cobalt]

Used it to kill yharon balanced🌚

[dawn abyss]

would using fargos souls be too strong for infernum wotg or is it fairly balanced?

[elder nebula]

incompatible

[dawn abyss]

oh fr?

[grim swallow]

They arent compatible and yes fargo would be unbalanced

Even if you somehow make the two work

[dawn abyss]

thats a shame

[royal jackal]

damn, i guess i'll just not use them then lmao

[dawn abyss]

i havent done too much on souls

[royal jackal]

boss fight was fun anyways so i'm not complaining

[grim swallow]

Souls+calamity is fun

(besides masochist death fucking abom)

And probably mutant

Havent gotten to him cuz im genuinely hard stuck on abomination

[dawn abyss]

yeah i dont plan on torturing myself and counting down in 7 from 1000

i just wanna know whats fun to play with infernum

and wotg

[wicked creek]

You could use them for night providence if the idea of them being too powerful annoys you

I assure you, the challenge against night providence will be more than enough to balance them out

[dawn abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-scared-fright-gif-1407771759511089766

[gloomy wedge]

yes

way too strong

[grim swallow]

Anyone got tips for the p2 second attack
That shit either hits me 0 times or 4

[wicked creek]

Oh wait I thought this said catalyst stuff

Nvm Fargo's souls is too strong

[viscid scaffold]

Why isn’t phaseblade shredding clam

Does clam have high DR instead of defense?

[elder nebula]

think so

[viscid scaffold]

Does shark tooth penetrate Dr or defense tho

[night copper]

what do we think

[wicked creek]

Defense

[solar swift]

Where’s the multiplayer Infernum mod? Does anyone know the name of it now?

[wicked creek]

Solid

[viscid scaffold]

Sigh…

[night copper]

do i need anything else for mage?

[wicked creek]

The patch has been included in the main mod

This doesn't mean it's not buggy at times

[viscid scaffold]

So what do I use for clam, my weapon is sunfury

[wicked creek]

Wait fuck I Just realized the mage accessory

Anyways I'd probably replace PSA with radiance (or ambrosial Ampoule if before yharon)

[wicked creek]

Hardmode clam?

[solar swift]

Cool, I’ve heard that it might be buggy, thank you though

[viscid scaffold]

Pre hm

I’ve dealt 50k dmg but it’s pretty slow

10%

[night copper]

and after not or why before yharon

[grim swallow]

I thought sunfury was the solar pillar whip thing

[viscid scaffold]

Flail

[grim swallow]

Yeah ik

[viscid scaffold]

Post skeletron unless you reaver skip

[elder nebula]

ur thinking of solar eruption

sunfury is from hell shadow chests

[wicked creek]

Oh right that challenge

Anyways try using debuffs?

[grim swallow]

Yeah I already understood

[viscid scaffold]

Isn’t clam resistant to all fire Debuffs?

Also um

It’s a single target boss

It’s not gonna be as fast as DScourge with debuffs

[wicked creek]

Yeah but vulnerable to electric and disease debuffs

[viscid scaffold]

I have snapthorn…

And rusty beacon

But that’s about it

I don’t have Tesla potions

[wicked creek]

Could use the voltaic jelly

[night copper]

whats the best pre yharon magic weapon?

[dawn abyss]

guys is it a skill issue that i can get old duke to final phase no hit and then die before hes even below 10%

[wicked creek]

Imo event horizon

[wicked creek]

Technically it is a skill issue

But that's because last phase he goes absurdly fast

[night copper]

can u actually hit yharon with it

my summoner is kicking in so i have to ask

[wicked creek]

That's why it's best to burst it down

[dawn abyss]

it feels like he just has extra defense in that phase

[wicked creek]

Yeah, pretty easily

Event horizon is homing and with a large amount of projectiles

[dawn abyss]

i can never hurt him enough

[night copper]

oh hell yeah, last question if i wanna multiclass do i just keep fearmonger armour the whole game?

[steep whale]

melee

[viscid scaffold]

I tried finding it but idk why it won’t spawn

I have greater luck potions

And garden gnomes

And all lucky buffs

[dawn abyss]

which is better, menacing or lucky

[viscid scaffold]

Lucky

[dense ocean]

Gamblemaxxing is the truth in our hearts.

[elder nebula]

warding

[steep whale]

doesnt lucky give you another stat besides crit strike

[dense ocean]

Yeah, luck.

[viscid scaffold]

Has higher chances to hit better damage, better crit chance, and I’m pretty sure better chances to take less damage

And just luck in general

[steep whale]

is luck uncapped in calamity?

[dense ocean]

You can get 100% crit rate.

[dawn abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

i do love gambling

[steep whale]

yeah but i mean luck

[viscid scaffold]

double damage …

[dense ocean]

Join us.

[wicked creek]

Could use abyss shocker

[steep whale]

luck affects damage too

[viscid scaffold]

join the gamblers

[dawn abyss]

i need damage not health

[dense ocean]

Hey, you're not old enough to gamble.

[wicked creek]

Wait fuck that's post skelly isn't it

[dawn abyss]

who

[dense ocean]

Not you.

Gamble more.

[dawn abyss]

i was gonna say

[viscid scaffold]

Isn’t that post skelly

[dense ocean]

Go to the casino, and bingo places.

[dawn abyss]

i am perfect gamble age

[dense ocean]

Bet on horses, and inflation!

[dawn abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-gif-3317347260163801850

what if i gamble all of my student finance

on red

[viscid scaffold]

You know what they say

99.9% of gamblers quit before they win big

[dense ocean]

What is wrong with kids these days.

[dawn abyss]

not a nice thing to say waterwraithgaming

[viscid scaffold]

I deadass thought your profile was Kermit for the longest time

Now idk what that is

[night copper]

if u wanna multiclass with summoner do u have to play fearmonger the whole time?

[dense ocean]

Do you want me to apologise to the children?

[snow sun]

It’s a water wraith

[elder nebula]

pikmin enemy

[snow sun]

Or water weird, one of those

[dense ocean]

What did I do to you?

[dawn abyss]

hmm idk

[snow sun]

No that’s an actual thing.

http://dndroll.wikidot.com/creatures:water-weird

[dawn abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thinking-baby-thinking-cat-baby-thinking-cat-baby-baby-philosophical-gif-17428742062241334001

[dense ocean]

I haven't bought the D&D guide books yet, don't spoil them!

[dawn abyss]

its a wraith

and its

freaky

[snow sun]

The stat block is from 5e, relax

[dawn abyss]

you dont understand how funny it is to see "a creature is typing"

[dense ocean]

I don't know what a 5e is?

[spare summit]

No wings is crazy but good other than that
Sponge over profaned soul artifact if that slot is greyed out for whatever reason

[night copper]

got wings

[snow sun]

Fifth edition

[night copper]

extra slot

[spare summit]

[snow sun]

Happy to be of service

[dense ocean]

I have heard of that. I heard 2nd Edition had the best spells.

[night copper]

?

[snow sun]

Yes. They’re kind of cracked

[dense ocean]

Like Flesh Dissolve, or something like that.

[spare summit]

Nvm I can’t judge I also used to play with extra slots

[night copper]

i have only wings idk my friend put the mods on

[snow sun]

But second ed also made the weird decision to have it be that the lower number your armor class is, the harder you are to hit, instead of the obvious higher number better

[night copper]

can someone answer this please😕

[spare summit]

Not necessarily

Fearmonger is really good for dog thru exos

[night copper]

doesnt your summoner dmg suffer tho?

[spare summit]

Gem tech is also a good post exos option that provides way more damage but you have to use all classes

[night copper]

thats classless then?

[dawn abyss]

can someone recommend a weapon for old duke? im using the ghastly visage and i do fine until final phase where he activates his boosters

[spare summit]

All classes yeah

[night copper]

classless seems cool

[spare summit]

It is

It’s also really strong

[night copper]

how strong we talking nwo

[dawn abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-swiss-cheese-swiss-cheese-his-ahh-jarvis-swiss-cheese-his-ahh-gif-12457996715520290279

[dense ocean]

Jarvis, upload a clip of him choking to his Twitter.

[dawn abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/lock-on-jarvis-hey-jarvis-iron-man-iron-man-jarvis-gif-3386808663963567031

[spare summit]

I got a 3:15 scal with a purely defensive loadout and the minimum nohit length (so people using all menacing and damage accessories) is 3:05

So not broken but quite good

[night copper]

i see

thats not bad fs

[grim swallow]

There is one bad part of gem tech

[dense ocean]

Jarvis, call my lawyer, I'm about to commit vehicular manslaughter.

[night copper]

id like to keep mage and summoner goin but classless kinda speaking to me

[grim swallow]

Being hit takes away a gem of the class whose weapon you held last

[spare summit]

The worst part of gem tech is keeping track of the ones you’ve lost

[night copper]

hm

[spare summit]

I hust cycle thru them every time I get hit unless void sash or sponge procced

[spare summit]

Oh and if we’re talking pre dog
There’s also the old ones army armor, forbidden set, and you can always use summons with the loadout from another class since it’s just free dps

[night copper]

im pre yharon

[sage oasis]

any tips for grinding demon scythe?

[spare summit]

But just in general

For future playthroughs

[night copper]

seems cool thoufh

to know

[sage oasis]

i only get like 1 demon per 10 minutes

[strong aurora]

i have
a Question
is infernum ceaseless void's last phase a survival one or something
do you have to keep dealing damage or. just. survive. cause its hp ticked down Really Slowly
the phase where it. gains a shield of sorts. the. cyan hp bar.

[spare summit]

Desperation phase where his hp slowly drains
In the bottom right corner of the archives there’s a bookcase
Just stand there and everything will miss you

[strong aurora]

waht even
dawg
okay that works too i guess lmao
thanks

[dawn abyss]

im going to find whoever designed infernum old duke

and do bad things

[grim swallow]

Just do masodeath od

[dawn abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-delete-the-bodycam-footage-jarvis-jarvis-delete-jarvis-delete-the-bodycam-gif-1249739411479985553

im skipping duke i dont need no weapon from him

[dense ocean]

Jarvis, cure their blindness with a subscription fee.

[grim swallow]

Fair

Jarvis, cast manual kidnapping on abominationn

[dawn abyss]

time to slaughter reaper sharks

[spare summit]

Wait we have embed perms now?

Since when

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorpshit-mad-gif-12826934952903770254

[vital mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/wtdg-w-t-d-g-draedon-calamity-calamity-mod-gif-11182857831226727484

surely nothing bad will happen

[nimble wing]

Stop talking

[dawn abyss]

[grim swallow]

Whats the best way to learn to dodge a bs attack

[wicked creek]

https://tenor.com/view/yharon-yharon-plush-calamity-mod-gif-9857463382397447019

[strong aurora]

okay no thats the wrong phase i think
its hp stayed at 65530 after a certain moment and i couldnt Do Anything
what even

[grim swallow]

Did he get unchained

[strong aurora]

yeah

[grim swallow]

Thats p3

He has like 15% left

[strong aurora]

i cant

deal damage though

like it literally doesnt come through

hp doesnt drain over time either

[night copper]

how goods the tesla cannon

[grim swallow]

He just tps a lot

[strong aurora]

yeah it cycled through the pattern like 20 times

died after that

[wicked creek]

It's not particularly great from what I know

[strong aurora]

and its hp still. stayed the same

🤔

[wicked creek]

If you want a magic gun against yharon, use omicron

[night copper]

oh i thought event horizon would be best

[wicked creek]

I said magic GUN specifically

[night copper]

ah mb

sowwy

im good

[wicked creek]

Event horizon is IMO the best mix between DPS and ease of use for a magic weapon against yharon

[grim swallow]

But yeah guys whats the way yall use to learn to not get fully killed by a bullshit attack

[dawn abyss]

bro apologised and forgave himself

[vital mulch]

dragonlens godmode to practice

[night copper]

i said im good to the fact of using a magic weapon

[dawn abyss]

spam dash

[wicked creek]

Which abomination attack was it specifically?

[grim swallow]

P2 scythes and dashes

I can sometimes no hit them but its just prayers

[grim swallow]

That aint gonna help cuz im not even using asgardian aegis

[grim swallow]

The one where he throws 4 waves of scythes

And the one after that

[wicked creek]

By " the One After that" you mean the dashes towards you that have trailing projectiles like the infernum polterghast diagonal dashes?

[grim swallow]

Yes

That abomination of an attack (sorry I had to do that pun)

[wicked creek]

Honestly I was bout to send you the video sent by woke lesbian Jesus for the dashes, but it seems like you've already seen it

[grim swallow]

Yeah its the transition between the two

I use exo box for scythes so I have to quickly get down dodge remaining scythes and immediately start dodging the dashes

[royal jackal]

uh

why is the ominous rift of death and despair here

[dense ocean]

Oh it does that.

:)

[royal jackal]

and can i do anything about it

[dense ocean]

Winter is coming.

[royal jackal]

am i going to die?

[wicked creek]

You will.

[dense ocean]

Oh, no. You won't die. Yet.

[royal jackal]

is god coming? should i be worried?

[dense ocean]

No.

[wicked creek]

A god is cominf

[grim swallow]

Btw im doing a challenge run

[dense ocean]

Someone else is.

[grim swallow]

No fargo accessories

[wicked creek]

But it is not coming unbidden

[royal jackal]

so do i just let it be or do i have to do anything to the ominous rift of death and despair

[grim swallow]

After scal and exos

[dense ocean]

Don't worry, you'll figure it out.

[royal jackal]

oh

alright i gues

[wicked creek]

Just play as you would normally, and keep doing the solyn quests

[royal jackal]

i'll call it carlos

[dense ocean]

Just ask the last person who tried such a trial.

[grim swallow]

Yeah tbh the dashes is just same as p1 just with extra movements to not get comboed
Do you have any tips for the scythe spam tho

[wicked creek]

Not really

[grim swallow]

Okay so I just fly like on crack on exo box

Also a fun fact

I chose an ass time for that challenge

[nimble wing]

The fog is coming.

[nimble wing]

||(Technically yes)||

[grim swallow]

Javyz said that the scythe attack which is my biggest problem and fargo boss stats were gonna get nerfed later to not be absurd without fargo gear

[night copper]

most fun class i wanna do a solo playthrough soon

[grim swallow]

Tmelee and mage

[night copper]

how is tmelee fun

[grim swallow]

You cant just run from a boss and ignore 3 attacks by being far

[night copper]

how tf do u even play tmelee against dog etc

[grim swallow]

Dog is one of the easiest tmelee bosses

[teal crag]

whats the best eye of cthulu melee armor

infer

[molten valley]

Molten

[grim swallow]

This dudes whole gimmick in both inf and basedeath is being in your face

[night copper]

i cant tell if youre ragebaiting

[dusty cobalt]

Why do u think u wouldnt tho

[grim swallow]

Platinum if no tier skips
Molten if tier skips

[night copper]

all i have played is summoner so tmelee seems like

[grim swallow]

I did infernum tmelee

Polterghast and scal are the only long af bosses

[night copper]

hmm

i might have to try that then

[nimble wing]

Against Infernum DoG?

[night copper]

yes

[frank mauve]

tmelee is meta for dog

[nimble wing]

The boss who literally shoves himself in your face most of the time??

[night copper]

okay SORRY

[molten valley]

Infernum dog is literaly designed for true melee

[frank mauve]

even better when u coil dog

[grim swallow]

All worms have 1 similar thing about em

[molten valley]

length