calamity-addon-talk

[grim swallow]

I was referring to deatg mode scal bullet hells

[covert estuary]

Oh yeah in that case yes

[fading dove]

also yeah in basecal you barely actually damage scal

5 invuln sections, 2 sepulchers, and brothers

this is not elemental unleash

[covert estuary]

I'm kinda upset that I didn't get xeroc feet pics after finishing boss rush

[grim swallow]

No hit gfb ND

[fading dove]

does xeroc even have feet

[covert estuary]

I kinda deserved it ya know (spammed kevin and won)

[covert estuary]

Pre ascension concept art says yes

Also he was a monk so another yes

[fading dove]

alright but this is post ascension

[grim swallow]

Actually

Would kevin be stronger than penetrator

(the reward for no hit mutant)

[fading dove]

no

[covert estuary]

You're telling me he didn't have feet pics back in his mortal times?

[fading dove]

probably not

[fading dove]

keep in mind that the penetrator has an infinite iframes button

[grim swallow]

What about the abomination no hit weapom

[grim swallow]

Cool

[covert estuary]

I'm still not fighting that shit

[fading dove]

broken shaft also drops from maso mutant unconditionally

[covert estuary]

I cant even beat Scal properly mind no hitting mutant

[cedar laurel]

just do maso

[fading dove]

so you can just styx gazer him to death and then

deal with desp

the one that does double damage

on top of the maso attack increase

so its more like triple damage compared to eternity

[grim swallow]

Is maso mutant a no hit or how much can you survive tbere

[covert estuary]

Who even enjoys fargos masochist like what type of sick fuck are you? A tohou fan?

[grim swallow]

And does silva revive work on masodeath mutant

[fading dove]

it does work

even lets you stay inside final spark

[vivid iris]

will the fargo souls dlc conflict with calamity gfb changes

[cedar laurel]

I remember dashing the wrong way on maso mutant desp deathray at like 5% hp

[grim swallow]

Its in the name

[vivid iris]

very cool, thank you for reading on my behalf

[fading dove]

the game functions alright i guess minus duke being unfightable which means you don't get soul of the master for mutant

which is a pretty important item to have

[cedar laurel]

doesn’t the Duke have like 300m hp

[fading dove]

nah

i think on masoleg with the cal scaling it might be like

370k including all heals

[vivid iris]

i mean i guess you could like. use a fall damage machine or something? or is it literally unsummonable

idk if it gives more bosses the moonlord iframe property, i guess it probably would huh

[fading dove]

he straight up just doesn spawn

[grim swallow]

What if with cheats

[faint arrow]

are Crabulon and his little shrooms immune to lava or something

[fast nacelle]

should i use palladium, meteor or cobalt armor for king slime

[frank widget]

Seems a bit late for king slime

Do you mean queen slime or something

[lilac torrent]

will high fps support break anything in calamity/infernum/wotg

[fast nacelle]

im doing for the worthy

[viscid scaffold]

Would that even be possible without no hitting

hmmm…

[fast nacelle]

oh yeah forgot i can use aerialite as well

[idle wraith]

xeno staff or gastic belcher for infernum goliath/EoL/Duke Fishron/Ravager

[frank widget]

Oh fun

[fading dove]

absolutely

you just gotta go in a square

wait you said without

[viscid scaffold]

Do ravager first and then touch the rest of them

[fading dove]

yeah you can just kinda tank shit

[viscid scaffold]

Get fathom swarmer armor or smth

[fading dove]

gfb is just another damage mult iirc

[viscid scaffold]

I like that set

[fast nacelle]

EoL and ravager is best for summoner

[fading dove]

spooky is the best for damage iirc

[viscid scaffold]

I miss playing infernum

I might just switch off death master supernova components only to play infernum mode

This shit is too projectile spammy

I like the concentration of infernum

Infernum is less bullet hell and more enjoyable

Anyways good mornight

[idle wraith]

which weapons should i use

[idle wraith]

which weapons?

[viscid scaffold]

Idk I just use any on tier gear and call it a day

What’s the point in using the best weapons

No terraria run has to be the same with the best weapons

Enjoy the game

[reef shore]

What is up with infernum skeletron 😭

[viscid scaffold]

Brain of confusion + 4 closely spaced platforms:

Alright real good mornight this time

[wicked creek]

Yes, unless you get to use the hydrothermal vent minion of the hydrothermic armor, in which case it surpasses spooky in DPS

[wicked creek]

He's here to teach you how to dodge bullet hells with small movements

And to not panic and run away

[fast nacelle]

Xeno staff for EoL raven first phase ravager second phase xeno

[idle wraith]

is fuel cell bundle good for EoL?

[alpine temple]

Should I switch to tarragon armor? playing rogue in infernum

[half lagoon]

Rogue tarragon is pretty good yes

[vivid iris]

when AoE does the glass-breaking lunge attack, how do you tell if it's coming from the right or the left
the ring of dots that pulse six times seem to have two different pitches but I can't find any way they correspond to the actual attack

[thin canyon]

tar
fish
zoologist
gemstone

[fast nacelle]

Tat so cute

I wanna pet them

[thin canyon]

gemstone
calamitas
miku

[wicked creek]

Iirc one of those dots is different and that's the direction the attack is coming from?

[fast nacelle]

I meant tar

[old wasp]

how to open this gate

[fading dove]

kill its protector

[thin canyon]

kill profaned guardians

[fading dove]

its the temple to the profaned goddess

[feral trellis]

the side that the blink comes from is the side it will rush at you from
i recommend saying left and right out loud to help you remember the pattern

[old wasp]

oh ok

ty

[old wasp]

bro i been seeing you here every time i chat for years

[fading dove]

insane

[feral trellis]

its cuz theyre always awake

get it

cuz theyre

woke

[old wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/minion-rain-sofela-gif-884905725896610874

[fading dove]

i only started talking here i think in like

april 2024?

[feral trellis]

im literally symboli rudolf

[old wasp]

i have a german joke

i better not say it

[fading dove]

nvm it was november 2023

[nimble oracle]

probably for the best that you don't yes

[feral trellis]

i looked up engineering majors today and one of the majors listed was german

[old wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/isagi-yoichi-michael-kaiser-blue-lock-isagi-neo-egoist-league-gif-10420394194641227268

[fading dove]

which wasnt too long after my original account got fucking slaughtered without warning or reason

[nimble oracle]

i don't know what this means

[fading dove]

i dont mean banned from the server, i mean the account itself just got deleted

[old wasp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1404794472834797640/1407652845410324611/saiba.gif

[feral trellis]

he thinks making jokes about german history is "tuff"

six seven mango mustard

[old wasp]

breaking discord TOS

[nimble oracle]

did you joke about being 12 years old or something

[fading dove]

nah

[old wasp]

i dont think

it is tuff

bluddd mangos while playing blox fruits

[fading dove]

i was logged out of the account, couldnt log back in, and it got deleted after a month

[old wasp]

u got hacked

[fading dove]

though i doubt i had more than a hundred messages here on that one

i think im decently active

[fast nacelle]

I don’t even wanna look at my amount of messages

It’s gonna he absolutely horrid

[nimble oracle]

about what i expected

[fading dove]

it may or may not be more, less than, or equal to me

[wicked creek]

Let's ignore I've been here for like a year more than you

[fast nacelle]

I can’t even look at my total on mobile

[wicked creek]

Yes you can, you just need to change a setting

I'm on mobile too

[nimble oracle]

for less than a year that's definitely a number

[fast nacelle]

Yeah I’m average discord mod secretly

Nya

[wicked creek]

Go in "appearance" and turn on the "exact message search count" setting or whatever

It's the lowest one

[wicked creek]

More than double my message count in half the time

[nimble oracle]

gell yeah

[smoky dock]

significantly more than 1% of my messages refer to true melee

gell yeah

[fading dove]

shoutout to this sick ass movement

[bleak gull]

should i change anything for exo mechs?

[wicked creek]

Yes, change the community out

What for depends on you. Profaned soul artifact, chalice of the blood god, rampart of deities

[bleak gull]

alright, ill change it for the soul artifact

anything else?

[wicked creek]

I'd change out the midnight sun beacon with ONE kindle staff and the rest of the slots being mechworm

[bleak gull]

no lilies or mirror of kalandra?

and if i use kindle staff what should i replace the auric artifact for

[wicked creek]

Keep those

Just remove the midnight sun beacon

[bleak gull]

alright thanks

[hearty solstice]

other than wrath of gods, catalyst and hunt of the gods is there another calamity add on which adds more bosses?

[elder nebula]

infernum adds one (1)

[wicked creek]

Technically 2 if you count dreadnautilus rework as a full boss

[elder nebula]

no

[wicked creek]

I mean, both dreadnautilus and sand shark are reworked minibosses into actual bosses

Just one is way more extensive than the other

[twin yarrow]

why is inf yharon 2nd phase genuinely easier than phase 1

i was 1 shot when i got into phase 2 and i shit you not i nohit that mf down to like 40%

[wicked creek]

He just has less health, but I wouldn't call it easier

[twin yarrow]

i mean up until now it was just a ring of fire followed by mashing your dash bind as fast as possible

unless he goes batshit crazy at like 30% then its pretty straightforward

[covert estuary]

anyone know what this is?

[nimble oracle]

related to one of the dev wishes

something about AS

[fading dove]

yeah its for unsullied

[elder wind]

if you beat aquatic scourge without your bar going above 50%, you get an item you can use there that gives you a pet

[twin yarrow]

what bar?

[elder wind]

in infernum, you gotta fight aquatic scourge underwater for most of the fight

and it's got the sulphurous poisoning bar

there's giant bubbles that pop up that you can enter to get lower it tho

[mighty summit]

Is Infernum still getting updated?

Wanna start a playthrough with calamity but not sure how to do it, want some addons

[dim aurora]

how do i dodge artemises spin laser in solo phase

its inconsistent

and i mean where he stays slightly above you

[cedar laurel]

nah they finished it

[mighty summit]

oh

[covert estuary]

and its a masterpiece

[mighty summit]

yall got any other recommendations?

[covert estuary]

not that comes to mind

probably the addons

wotg and wotm

[cedar laurel]

Catalyst is a safe one to add

[covert estuary]

goozma

[mighty summit]

wotm?

never heard of that

[covert estuary]

wrath of the machine

a draedon rework

[mighty summit]

oh I see

[elder nebula]

eternity exos ai but by itself

[mighty summit]

Is there a way I can figure out incompatibilities ?

[subtle niche]

does anyone have cal test helpers for 1.4.3

[cedar laurel]

see if it break the game or ask here

[mighty summit]

Is there some that I need to avoid better question

[cedar laurel]

Calamity overhaul

[elder nebula]

entropy (not evil but just very low quality)

[mighty summit]

wasn't calamity whips really bad?

[dim aurora]

its very unbalanced

theres one whip that just demolishes everything

[cedar laurel]

stardust whip and it’s x4 damage potential

[dim aurora]

but it doesnt cause incompatibilities i think

[cedar laurel]

tho I like the whip glove it added

[elder nebula]

catalyst adds the whips but they're slightly different stats

[cedar laurel]

Catalyst sandshark whip spawn 3 small sand sharks (100+ damage each) with 1 seconds cooldown
unofficial whip version on the other hand spawn one but it does the same damage as your summons and have no cooldown or limit on how many sandshark can be there

[mighty summit]

Wish someone made like a doc for it

hmm

Does wotg and wotm work with infernum?

[elder nebula]

wotg mostly does, wotm doesn't

[mighty summit]

I see

[cedar laurel]

Wotm kinda just override infernum exo mech with spacial codes

[dim aurora]

any tips for solo thanatos?

cant get past him

dont suggest coiling im asking for actual advice

[mighty summit]

I see, I guess I'll go with HotOG,WotM,WotG and Catalyst?

[elder nebula]

should be alright maybe

[mighty summit]

aight

[wicked creek]

He's like DOG in a way

As in, when he tries ramming you, he behaves very similarly to DOG

The refraction rotor attack is mainly dodged by just going the fuck away and hoping you don't get hit

And the big laser prism attack is the easiest IMO, just stick close to him and you can dodge it by going close to his head

The opposite is the.... Astrum deus-like star attack, where you want to go as far as you can from it

Remember he only has contact damage when he tries to ram you

[dim aurora]

i just get

hit

[chrome moth]

by what

[wicked creek]

Yeah it happens to me as well, especially when he gains contact damage suddenly

[dim aurora]

by his bites unexpectedly, and he just coils in a strange way so i get contact

idk its awkward

and his dashes arent as consistent as dog

[chrome moth]

the rythm should be a bit different but the same idea to deal with it

[dim aurora]

twins solo is also

dogshit

[oak zenith]

yo should I fight exomechs or scal first

[dim aurora]

sometimes i nohit sometimes i die

[oak zenith]

I have wrath of the machine

somebody please?

[wicked creek]

See, the point is to NOT let him coil around you

When you get him to behave like DOG, he's more consistent

The problem is he does it suddenly so you gotta be prepared and remember that before any attack, even during the last moments of the previous one, there is a sound that tells you he's about to change attac

[wicked creek]

I cannot really comprehend it so I always have them second for now

Like I know the general idea of what I SHOULD do

But I find ares solo first to be more consistent

[dim aurora]

him also just biting my ass off mid godslayer dash

brih

[wicked creek]

Even then sometimes I get fucked

[dim aurora]

its fine, easiest for me is twins

cuz i didnt learn how to dodge the purple plasma

[wicked creek]

Weird for me they're the hardest

Thanatos is easiest (which is why I keep him for solo phase ) then ares , then twins

[wicked creek]

Exo mechs give you more stuff

Draedon's heart, Celestus supernova are all really good

And outside of infernum, exo box is super good for scal

[dim aurora]

i fucking hate it WHEN IM PRESSING ALL THE BUTTONS IN THE WORLD

AND I CANT UNHOOK

AND I DONT EVEN REMEMBER PRESSING E

my pc is lowkey slow bruh

[dusky ingot]

Would WoTM work in a world created without it?

[dim aurora]

holy hell melee is so good for exos

[dusky ingot]

Can I just add it mid-playthrough?

[dim aurora]

isnt it just the boss rework?

so it should

[dusky ingot]

Yeah, but some mods tend to be kinda stupid

[dim aurora]

lemme see mod desc

[dusky ingot]

Like WoTG, which has 1 worldgen thing, yet requires you to create the world with it to fight the bosses, which I find kinda dum

[dim aurora]

but its still something

[dusky ingot]

Since the change to worldgen shouldn't even exist imo, it's just Permafrost's house or something

[dim aurora]

wotm is just the boss rework

im assuming it should be good

[dusky ingot]

Yeah, prefered to ask here, since some addons like Overhaul tend to fuck you over sideways no matter when you install it, but probably especially mid-playthru]

[dim aurora]

why does thanatos contact damage

do so much

oh my god

I WAS ABOUT TO KILL IT

[night galleon]

how long is the leash of cthulhu viable for?

[wicked creek]

I got past solo Thanatos once and died after that when ares was at like 20%

[night galleon]

ig post providence it might fall off but like it looks SICK AS FUCK

[dim aurora]

solo twins

ARE STUPID

[night galleon]

same for slime slinging slasher

[dim aurora]

and my hook not fucking working properly

makes it worse

[wicked creek]

Well hey post mutant there's an upgrade to it

[dim aurora]

thanks game

im just stuck on the platform

pressing space 5 times

[night galleon]

who tf am i gonna fight post mutant?

[fading dove]

boss rush

[night galleon]

oh wait aoe and nd lmao

[wicked creek]

Idk boss rush probably

Primordial wyrm

[night galleon]

forgot i had wotg

[cedar laurel]

just for Providence and below I imagine

terratomere be destroying stuffs

[night galleon]

[frank widget]

Yourself

[night galleon]

im scared

[night galleon]

is my character gonna get so strong that the mf teleports to real life

[frank widget]

Already has

[dim aurora]

is ares laser beam directionr random?

WAIT

I KILLED THANA

YESS

died right after

aughhhhhhh

ares just had to stay on 1 hp

[wicked creek]

Yes

I think so at least

[dim aurora]

like, MAN

WHY DOES THE FUCKING LASER SPEED UP RANDOMLY

i cant with this boss

[wicked creek]

You mean the twin + ares duo phase, or blender beam like in ares solo phase or ares+ Thanatos phase?

[dim aurora]

ares twin

[wicked creek]

Huh, I haven't experienced it speeding up

[dim aurora]

its literally so fast i cant even avoid it

also when it spins from right to left im just dead

[worn grove]

Guys

Somehow after months without terraria

I beat inf yharon on fucking first try

Also

Help me make a summon build post yharon please

[wicked creek]

5 mirror of kalandra
Lillies of finality
1 yharon's kindle staff
Rest mechworm

Cadaverous carrion as sentry

[dim aurora]

also the stupid homing white things that thanatos makes after his angled laser

[wicked creek]

Yeah they're the same sparks that happen in the ares laser when it's solo

But I find them easier to dodge than the ones in the blender beam

[worn grove]

Ow and i died right after upgrading

Funny

[worn grove]

What abt accessories

Kinda have a lot going on

[wicked creek]

Nucleogenesis, wings of rebirth, Asgardian aegis , radiance, the sponge, dark sun ring, and then either chalice of the blood god, profaned soul artifact or rampart of deities depending on taste

[dim aurora]

how thanatos feels after making un undodgeable combo of the big red thing that you are supposed to run away from and then the white laser right away:

[worn grove]

Are you doing infernum exos

[dim aurora]

yes

[worn grove]

Ty

Now i fight exos or goozma

[wicked creek]

I always wanted to try iframing the big laser with godslayer dash but so far it hasn't worked

[worn grove]

Well your name totally contradicts me

Bcs i beat inf yharon first try today

Dont ask me how

I spamed the ram dash

[dim aurora]

and i gave up on it

[dim aurora]

the iframes only come up after the dash

when you are flashing

[worn grove]

Well its hard so you can come back at anytime

[dim aurora]

cuz otherwise idk how thanatos managed to bite me inside it

[dim aurora]

i switched to death and continued

[wicked creek]

Well, not that I know of?

[worn grove]

Anyway im beating exos now

[dim aurora]

and the mouth hitbox

[wicked creek]

Have fun! I'm there too

[dim aurora]

is so HUMONGOUSLY BIG

[violet hill]

Oh man thats pain

[dim aurora]

ares laser is sometimes

literally faster than my movement speed

is it because of me being far?

[wicked creek]

Yeah sometimes you gotta dash too

[dim aurora]

i also dash but its still faster

[wicked creek]

And/or using the slime-like mounts

[wicked creek]

Probably this doesn't help

[violet hill]

what class r u using

[worn grove]

Chat how did i reach the last phase on my second try chat

How

Wtf is wrong with me chat

[dim aurora]

melee

i really recommend using rampart here because of you defense being taken away from you after 1 hit

[worn grove]

You go towards thana when it does the lazer

During that move around to dodge the white things

Also i need a fucking world arena for exo got dammit

[lofty scaffold]

THE WORM IS DEAD

THE FUCKING WORM IS DEAD

GALILEO GLADIUS IS FUCKING META

[grim falcon]

gg

[twilit parcel]

does amulet of many minions let you control the minions of other mods

like cal minions

also by what magnitude does summoner curbstomp the entire game

[wicked creek]

GG but I'm surprised at Galileo Gladius

Death's ascension worked better for me

[wicked creek]

You really don't

[twilit parcel]

how much should i increase enemy health by to make the fight fair

[wicked creek]

I'm fighting them on 4 2000 block long platforms, and the space below it until the surface

I very much could add more platforms but I'm lazy

[worn grove]

I mean im doing twins and ares so i need vertical

[wicked creek]

Yeah even then

You really don't need a world arena

[worn grove]

Holy shit its the goat

[wicked creek]

I'm also doing twins and ares

[lofty scaffold]

sub 2 minutes with galileo gladius (using rippers as well)

[worn grove]

CD music be cooking both in music and calamity

[mighty summit]

does infernum do balance changes to calamity's weapons?

[gloomy wedge]

No except for great sand shark weapons iirc

And halibut cannon

[mighty summit]

so the calamity class guides should still work?

or no

[wicked creek]

For the most part yes

It does change boss behavior so some may not be as comfortable or may be more comfortable than what you may think

[mighty summit]

hm alright

[grim swallow]

yay masodeath od down

[hearty slate]

How viable would it be to go for Infernum Distortion Trio and Polterghast before providence?

[elder nebula]

definitely doable

[gloomy wedge]

You absolutely could, just not really sure why

[hearty slate]

Providence honestly doesn't seem doable right now (probably is tho), plus inf Storm Weaver seems possible

Is Seven Striker any better than Slaughterer?

[gloomy wedge]

No

[hearty slate]

fuck

[elder nebula]

slaughterer #1 most unbalanced weapon in the mod rn

[gloomy wedge]

If you’re losing to provi with slaughterer, the weapon isn’t the problem

Either you’ve got really bad accessories or you frankly just suck

[hearty slate]

probably the latter tbh

[dim aurora]

Yk what

If im not good at solo thanatos, ill just do ares and thana first cuz it seems the easiest

[dusty cobalt]

🌚

[dim aurora]

No idea what twins thana is ngl

[elder nebula]

infernum?

or wotm

[dim aurora]

Inf

[sleek bramble]

I DIED TO POLTERGHASTS DESPERATION STAGE SECOND TIME

FOR THE SECOND TIME

GOD DAMNIT

[elder nebula]

it's the one where the hunters fly around to the sides of thana's head

[dim aurora]

Oh right

I forgot

[twin yarrow]

whats the best melee weapon against inf yharon

i fucking hate this boss btw

[dim aurora]

Yeah that one is piss easy

[twin yarrow]

im using orderbringer rn

[elder nebula]

murasama is good i think

[twin yarrow]

i can NOT be getting that close to him

[elder nebula]

ain't orderbringer tmelee

[twin yarrow]

nope

homing projectiles

[elder nebula]

right i get it confused with the guardian one

[dim aurora]

Deaths ascencin probably

No.

DEATHS ASCENCION

MY INTERNET AGHHH

[elder nebula]

majestic guard was it

[sleek bramble]

FINALLY

GOD DAMNIT

[twin yarrow]

someone told me to use orderbringer over deaths ascension

so idek anymore lmao

and should i be using warding or menacing

cuz im currently running warding but im really starting to lean into menacing

but then again thats 49 less defense

[elder nebula]

warding

[dim aurora]

Ur getting only 1 swing per dash

And only dashes

Thats not worth it even when mura has so much damage

[twin yarrow]

i guess u can kinda shred in 2nd phase during the ring attacks

[dim aurora]

Death homes so

[twin yarrow]

but thats risky

so

[elder nebula]

right i forgot inf yharon was tweaked out like that

[twin yarrow]

order does too

[dim aurora]

What suits you

[dim aurora]

Menacing isnt worth it

Over warding basically everywhere

[twin yarrow]

does menacing get buffed too

[dim aurora]

Nothing is tbh

[twin yarrow]

cuz warding is 7 defense

[twin yarrow]

in cak

cal

[dim aurora]

No

7% damage would be insane

Anyways i have to make up a strat for exos

I really dont wanna do thanatos solo when he isnt chosen first

Nor ares (any time)

Idk how much harder twins are solo non first entry

Cuz i just die at thanatos when i choose twins ares lol

[dusty cobalt]

i mean it seems u already have twins and ares down for the 2/3 of the fight

thanatos is just dog but not onshotting you

[dim aurora]

I mean, i can already beat twins and ares consistently

Its just thanatos attacks get me

Most of the times its due to homing sparks or contact damage

[dusty cobalt]

just go to his head when u know hes doing lazer

[dim aurora]

I think coling him is where i should use rage

For a chance of killing him in 1 cycle

[dim aurora]

Im be running away from the sparks and then im suddenly too far away to dodge it

[dusty cobalt]

doesnt he make the sparks after he shoots the lazer

[night fractal]

It has a very long telegraph I thought

[dusty cobalt]

u just gotta chase him down

[night fractal]

as soon as you see it start dash towards him and just get over there

Rod of Discord if you must

Although that might make other stuff harder idk

[dim aurora]

I mean 2nd laser+

[dim aurora]

Seems shorter when he isnt the first 2

[dusty cobalt]

also wait uh

this is like, the last phase of the fight right?

[wicked creek]

Remember you also have tarragon set bonus

Which can halve contact damage for 10 seconds

[dim aurora]

What

[wicked creek]

Nope

[dim aurora]

And blooflare for some damage

[wicked creek]

After solo mech, there's the two Mecha you haven't killed again

[dusty cobalt]

the whole time i thought this was thanatos solo

[wicked creek]

Yeah but the bloodflare one can't be triggered on command, it's after every 15 true melee strikes

[dusty cobalt]

the 3rd section of the fight

[wicked creek]

Yes, that is it

But there's more in infernum

After you do solo, you fight the other two Mechs again

[dusty cobalt]

yea

[wicked creek]

And after you kill one of those, there's the desperation phase

[dim aurora]

Oh

Welp

I gotta learn solo thana again

Twins thana is the easiest but i dont wanna fight solo ares at all

[dusty cobalt]

wouldnt thantos ares b easier since u dont want to do solo ares

[dim aurora]

Yep

Solo twins seem to be the most doable

I know how their attacks work already

[dusty cobalt]

do it then ez

[dim aurora]

[wicked creek]

Honestly I do ares first phase, then duo with twins, then solo Thanatos

I cannot comprehend twins solo

Or rather, I can theoretically, can't in practice

Probably the practice I got with the others helped

[sonic rover]

can anyone tell me where this book is i looked it up and it said the abyss chest but that doesnt exist anymore no?

[dim aurora]

Ngl it just comes down to being inside artemis

Hook up and fly and judt dash

[elder hawk]

terminus chest

[sonic rover]

where is that?

[elder hawk]

jsut in the chest

just*

[dim aurora]

Ez dodge

[fading dove]

im guessing there's a specific bit of code that lets jared drop it if inf is enabled

[dim aurora]

For other attacks just drop down

[fading dove]

i can try and check

[elder hawk]

it generates there but cant spawn on infernum abyss

[sonic rover]

so with infernum im guessing i have to cheat it in?

[elder hawk]

yes

also

[fading dove]

not necessarily

let me check

[elder hawk]

am i missing smth or reaver sharks cant spawn before a certian boss?

i killed polterghast pre providence to get last mourning and no abyss miniboss spawning

[sonic rover]

i made it spawn premoonlord so idk before that

[elder hawk]

infernum abyss doest support the terrain that spawn abyss minibosses? and also bobbit worms are spawning out of abyss

[sonic rover]

it doesnt? i had reaver shark and the wyrm spawn in multiple times

by just hanging out at the bottom of the abyss

[elder hawk]

howwhat u used

zerg pot?

[sonic rover]

that doesnt do anything i think i have luiafk battler thing on that didnt do anything either

so i just stood there until i heard the noises

[elder hawk]

ok

ok

imma try to make the abyss look like base calamity and see if they spawn

[sonic rover]

just went to tge abyss now as well btw something is spawning

[elder hawk]

or just they dont spawn if infernum is off?

imma try everything i find

[fading dove]

the infernum abyss only works in infernum

[sonic rover]

probably that if u generated world with infernum

[sonic rover]

can you get the book without cheating it in? did you check?

if not ima justmcheat it in rq

[elder hawk]

a bobbit worm just went ape shit the sec i enable infernum

[sonic rover]

they spawn in for me if i go up a bit from the bottom

otherwise they dont spawn

[worn grove]

Chat how do you do exo twins without flying too high

[fading dove]

alright yeah

jared drops it

[sonic rover]

aight thanks

then i still havr a while to go for that

[fading dove]

i did NOT think it was gonna be in GlobalNPCEventHandlers though

i thought it was gonna be in the infernum section

[sonic rover]

idek what that means since im not a coder 😂

btw one more question

i wanted to add calalmity wrath of gods into a world that was already generated and couldnt make it work

so no solyn and no permafrost etc and cheating solyn in is a bit bugged

[fading dove]

yeah it requires permafrost's keep

though there are some cheat items

[sonic rover]

i saw u can use quest skipper

but interacting with solyn was bugged so i didnt even get to that

she didnt talk and it was just blank

[dim aurora]

Can someone say wether or not the boss is harder if you dont fight him first? For example thanatos solo after twins and ares are low enough

Or its the same and im tweaking

[lean grove]

is astrageldon a battle of attrition?

[fading dove]

eh

you can bust it down in 3:30

but its hard to get faster than that

[alpine temple]

infernum rogue using, old reaper going to go against DOG soon, what accessory should I switch so I can deal more damage to it

[dim aurora]

Cherished sealocket

[fast nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-calamity-calamity-mod-moonstone-crown-angry-birds-dice-gif-3271103520363468844

[alpine temple]

What dat do

[fast nacelle]

Dodge but half as good and also twice

All in all a better dodge

[alpine temple]

I want more damage not survivability

I want to kill the fucker fast :)

[fast nacelle]

Cherished sealocket is worth it

Best accessory for dog

[dim aurora]

Instead of idk what

[dim aurora]

You dont

Sealocket is too good for dog

[alpine temple]

Ok what do I replace with it

[dim aurora]

Also amal brain

[fast nacelle]

Dodges doesn’t work with sealocket

Unfortunately

[dim aurora]

Still helps

[alpine temple]

What other rogue weapon is good for DOG?

[fading dove]

jaws of oblivion

also tarragon armour for stealth

[alpine temple]

Tarragon armor gets stealth faster?

[fading dove]

it has a batshit insane set bonus

(150 frames of perfect invincibility)

[alpine temple]

sheesh

[fading dove]

(two and a half seconds)

[civic iris]

anyone have a list of other mods that work well for Calamity multiplayer?

[elder nebula]

basically just catalyst

[alpine temple]

Yeah that's kinda op, should I wait for my new pc to fight dog, he kinda lags out my poor laptop, I'll be able to build it by saturday (if delievery doest screw me over

[waxen tide]

abyssal mirror is already there anyways

[fast nacelle]

True

[sleek bramble]

should i use death's ascension for dog?

[fast nacelle]

It’s one of the better weapons

Hook of banshee is better

[night fractal]

Well

[fast nacelle]

Same with lions heart

[night fractal]

Sealocket would cut the dodge cooldown

[fast nacelle]

Yeah

But not worth imo

[fading dove]

lion heart is one of the best weapons for inf dog if you're willing to play into his game

[night fractal]

I don't think banshee is better than death's last I checked but idk

I think it's between lion heart and deaths

[fading dove]

banshee requires lining dog up

[night fractal]

I've heard Galileo Gladius is also pretty good?

[fading dove]

which is noticably very difficult when dog easily outspeeds you in a matter of a couple seconds

[fast nacelle]

I was thinking about Basecal my bad

[fading dove]

galileo is about as good as holy collider i think

[wicked creek]

Honestly, CDmusic used it to beat DOG today but the time wasn't too stellar , still decent enough tho

[fading dove]

corinth prime can get a lion heart tier time but is inconsistent

[wicked creek]

Not unusable

[night fractal]

yeah

[waxen tide]

abyssal madness best weapon

[wicked creek]

Truth and real

[fading dove]

superradiant sounds like it'd be pretty good but its actually abysmal dogshit

[fast nacelle]

Not missing fucking eradicates all damage

[night fractal]

Mirror Blade best weapon

(if we go back in time)

mirror blade on infernum dog was so fun I'm so unhappy that they gutted it as hard as they did

[fast nacelle]

What r buzzkill and super radiant ranked at currently?

[night fractal]

superradiant is an SS tier

[fast nacelle]

You got the power,,,

[fading dove]

buzzkill is A and superradiant is SS

[night fractal]

Buzzkill was S or A

[wicked creek]

I wonder, submarine shocker is a well known worm killer for like up till deus

Just for the meme, I wonder how it would stack up to DOG

[fast nacelle]

Ah

[night fractal]

well not exactly

Mirror Blade is being reworked

[fading dove]

i think it'd be very similar to weaponless

[wicked creek]

Damn, fr?

[waxen tide]

buzzkill is cool but hellborn though🤤

[wicked creek]

What if you coiled him?

[fading dove]

considering dog's pierce resist and 50 defence and 92.5% dr on body

[night fractal]

DoG has one segment that takes most of the damage

[fast nacelle]

Buzzkill is added so you can more easily do tmelee ranger

[night fractal]

Subshocker probably sucks

[grim swallow]

good for yhar and eridanus

[waxen tide]

sponge

[grim swallow]

no

im not bulk

[waxen tide]

dsa

[grim swallow]

oh true forgot about the goat

how could I

over the scroll or profaned thing

[waxen tide]

either

[humble marlin]

mreow

[sleek bramble]

i dont even know how i will kill dog

[azure olive]

alright, it's abbyss time

[fossil pilot]

by getting him to 0 hp

[azure olive]

okay, now how does this work, i lose air faster than i gain it (im using the hardy saddle)

[fossil pilot]

wear a diving suit, the best one u can get in ur progression, and also gills potions n stuff like flipper pots r good to

and if ur post golem u can use a celestial shell for better movement there

[azure olive]

im pre hardmode

[fossil pilot]

u can craft artic diving gear, or u can find it in a ice snow lab i think aswell

actually i just checked the wiki all diving helmets give u same water breathing capability it seems like, just grants u more stuff

what are you even trying to get? are u on infernum

[azure olive]

oh, i just realised that i wont get cinamon rollys from this

[fossil pilot]

the alcohol? yeah to mine scoria you need atleast a picksaw

[dim aurora]

how does thana desp phase look like?

[fossil pilot]

i think he just dashes at you aggresively

like dog

[azure olive]

no, i mean the food frow the whath of the gods mod

[dim aurora]

alr

[fossil pilot]

oh

[azure olive]

i see good food, i want good food

[gritty aurora]

guys what other mods should i download with infernum, i want the cool boss health bar

[gloomy wedge]

That’s part of infernum

[gritty aurora]

is it?

[worn grove]

Chat

[fossil pilot]

yes, click esc and i think is in interface and where it says vanilla/calamity click it until is on infernum

[indigo spire]

no

[worn grove]

Guys

I need a post exo summoner build please

[gritty aurora]

tsysm

[fossil pilot]

np

[indigo spire]

they make it that if you have infernum and wotg on

[gritty aurora]

the game is finished post exo mechs

[indigo spire]

you get that book thing from killing primordial wyrm

[worn grove]

What abt calamitas

[elder nebula]

finished after both

unless you wanna do primordial wyrm or boss rush

[gloomy wedge]

I think you go kalandra with 4 tesla cannon exoskeleton

And then kscope morningstar ofc

[worn grove]

Im using cosmic materializer

Since im on infernum and i cant for the heck of it beat exo mech without it being the twins

[gloomy wedge]

Well you def should go for Ares last because exoskeleton is VERY good

[worn grove]

Ik but that bih hard😭

[dim aurora]

how do i avoid the ares's arm projectiles

do i fall or move less

[worn grove]

Dash on time

You know it predicts so change direction rapidly helps

Or fly very fast that ares cant keep up

[dim aurora]

im getting my shit rocked by this boss unfixably

[severe cedar]

my opinion on every infernum boss (i finally finished it)

Also astrageldon because he’s an honorary infernum boss

[dusky ingot]

Bro didn't fight Great Sand Shark 💀

And plaguebringer, and brimmy :c

[severe cedar]

yea the shark wasnt working for me

i put the sandstorm core in the structure and nothing happened

[dusky ingot]

Cause you gotta alt+tab while on the portal

Or something like that

Cause it weird

I think

[sleek bramble]

23 attempts on dog and furthest i got was the second phase is that good?

[dusty cobalt]

Duke placement is based

[severe cedar]

normal duke or boomer duke

i hate boomer duke

[dusty cobalt]

Normal

Old duke is fun too

[severe cedar]

Me when I lie

[dusty cobalt]

✌️ no lie twin

[severe cedar]

old duke is bs on infernum, he charges 20 times a second and half his attacks feel random

hes yharon but worse

[dim aurora]

i dont even know what the fuck is happening on screen

and how to dodge that

[dim aurora]

yharon needs his own tier at the bottom

[severe cedar]

infernum peaks at providence and its downhill from there

[severe cedar]

eh he’s fine
after old duke yharon doesnt feel that bad, he’s still a “charge 20 times a second” type of boss that infernum loves to throw at you in the endgame, but the patterns that arent the charge and the teleport feel fine

[dim aurora]

is there something homing i could use for twins on ares twins to hit them consistently

as melee

[dusty cobalt]

Nadir

Is what i used at least. I dunno sum bettywr

No nvrmind dawg I never did that combination

[dim aurora]

i still cant choose a combination

they are all incosnsistent as fuck

[severe cedar]

Infernum exo mechs fucking sucks

The fight takes way too long

[dusty cobalt]

Thana ares is free as melee

[severe cedar]

And it’s super punishing, so you’d expect a fast pace like DoG

[dim aurora]

i DESPISE ares spinning laser

[severe cedar]

But nope, it lasts for 7 minutes or so

[dim aurora]

ofc

but the lag

ruins everything

[sleek bramble]

dog is fucking stupid

[severe cedar]

not as bad as exos

[dusty cobalt]

Im surprised you could lag more than me

[dim aurora]

WHY IS THE BEAM SO FUCKING FAST BRO

[sleek bramble]

its worse

[severe cedar]

True

[dim aurora]

god i hate ares

fuck aressss

[severe cedar]

inf thanatos is just dog 2

[dim aurora]

burn in hell

stupid junk

[sleek bramble]

calamity has too many worms

[dusty cobalt]

Do u use slime mount at all btw

[dim aurora]

i dont even understand this boss

he adds homing projectiles to his beam, ok

[wicked creek]

Well I haven't beaten em yet but I'm having tons of fun

Tons of attempts too tho lol

[dim aurora]

then he can also change the direction???

who the fuck designed that

and it just speeds up randomly

everything past dog has been so shit

[dusty cobalt]

One of the only attacks I think is complete bs in the game

[severe cedar]

welcome to infernum exo mechs! we have: dog 2, bullshit beam attack, bullshit sword attack, bullshit homing nearly invisible green shits, enrage if you get too far, fight that lasts for ten fucking minutes

[dim aurora]

all of your defense being stripped off after 1 attack

and the next ones gonna be like a dog bite

[dusty cobalt]

I should try the other combination again for once

I only ever did 1

[severe cedar]

Do worm + eyes, it’s the easiest

only problem is that you have to fight ares

[dusty cobalt]

That was the shittest one for me

When i was a wee lad

[wicked creek]

I have 2 combinations I can understand

Ares twins, and Thanatos twins

And solo ares is a bit of a bastard so I do him first so I get to deal with him less

[dusty cobalt]

I had too much lag so maybe its better now

[wicked creek]

I cannot understand twins at all

So I always do them in a combo phase

[dusty cobalt]

I will try it later

[wicked creek]

Way easier

[dusty cobalt]

Actually by later I mean now

[dusky ingot]

Hunters + Ares easiest for me

Thanos + Ares isn't the worst either

[sleek bramble]

im so fucking done with calamity

[severe cedar]

There’s this one attack that I didn’t know how to dodge at first, the attack where the yellow one shoots an instantly firing laser. the thing is that he turns slowly, so you have to kind of go around him in a circle

If that helps

[dim aurora]

genuinely what am i supposed to do

and i dont mean the end

[dusty cobalt]

you need to find a homing weapon anyway

[dusky ingot]

I usually dash through him

Also works

[dusty cobalt]

i should do this with seared pan again to destroy my sanity

[dim aurora]

i try ramming the swords and still take damage?

[dusky ingot]

The greatest sniper that's ever lived

[wicked creek]

You got the general gist of it right , but the problem is that the execution needs to account for projectiles each time

Like, if you'd dropped down for the missiles, for example, or changed direction slightly for the plasma

At least, that's what I think. I also often get clipped by that lol

[dim aurora]

how more bullshit unfair does his boss get?

[dusty cobalt]

hey btw, howd you get this world

[dim aurora]

i wanna beat scal and get gaels greatsword otherwise this is impossible lol

[severe cedar]

True…

That’s why I hate this boss

[dim aurora]

i downloaded it

[severe cedar]

Like half the attacks feel so bs

[dim aurora]

its called alysium

[fading dove]

going underground for above ground bosses...............

[dim aurora]

what?

[dusty cobalt]

from where

[dusky ingot]

I'd recommend doing a couple practice attempts without the chalice so you can actually see which attacks hit you, at least for me I never really noticed when I got hit when wearing chalice

[wicked creek]

Oh god the ares sword attacks are the main ones I'd call "bullshit"

The part I like the least about this fight

I CAN survive them usually but it feels so annoying and random. For the multiple slashes I just try falling downward or going in a circle-ish motion, but for the slam + wheels of lasers it's just dash away and hope I positioned myself right

[dim aurora]

i did

i was doing it without chalice before

same things

[severe cedar]

True reaction

[dusky ingot]

Maybe try different combination of the exos?

[jovial sedge]

alright chat

[dim aurora]

i tried everything

just die to ares

always

[jovial sedge]

how do i use efficiently the superradiant slaughter

on like, guardians

[wicked creek]

Speaking of chalice I've seen better results by changing it out for rampart of deities but idk if it's it actually being better or me slowly getting more skilled

[dim aurora]

beam that beam this

change direction

homing projectiles

[wicked creek]

I believe you want to charge your shots

[severe cedar]

Surprised nobody has mentioned those little green shits that like to spawn randomly, are nearly invisible and always break ur adrenaline at the worst possible moment

[dim aurora]

bs swords

im dead

[jovial sedge]

to the max ?

[wicked creek]

The plasma shots?

[dim aurora]

1000 random projectiles on screen that are only dodgeable by FALLING

or flying up

[gritty aurora]

should i download infernum music with infernum

[jovial sedge]

also is the right click useful

[dim aurora]

not good design.

[jovial sedge]

yesn't

half is good half is bad

[gritty aurora]

does it change the songs

[jovial sedge]

but the good ones are rly good

[wicked creek]

I really liked it but it's up to you

Just remember if you have Vanilla Calamity mod music too you need to go into the config settings for it

[jovial sedge]

only the vanilla bosses and the exo mechs

[wicked creek]

And allow infernum music

[jovial sedge]

it changes scal aswell

[wicked creek]

And scal yeag

[severe cedar]

According to the wiki they’re called “exoburst explosions”

[dusky ingot]

What you talkin abt?

Never noticed these

[jovial sedge]

i never used vanilla calamity mod music i rly dislike the themes

[severe cedar]

You know, during Thanatos’s Big Laser Attack tm

[jovial sedge]

i prefer the old ennways ones (cal extra)

the EoC one is so good

[wicked creek]

Those are called exoburst sparks iirc? Anyways those are hell to dodge during ares' blender beam, but during the thanatos prismatic explosion I find decently easy to dodge

[dusty cobalt]

where tf did i put my zenith

[jovial sedge]

i ate it sry

[dusky ingot]

I think you just run around the place and they don't hit you usually

[dim aurora]

Ofc

Because you arent being restricted in space

During the beam its STUPID

What was the point of that

[wicked creek]

Exoburst sparks + ares laser reversing direction is probably one of the circles of hell

[dim aurora]

The lasers are hard enough by themselves and also change direction

You have to remove 1 of those

[wicked creek]

Especially if it reverses direction when I need to FALL especially because that means I gotta micromanage slime mount or get hit

Usually

[jovial sedge]

should i change anything before the dragonfolly and guardians fight, i don't know if infernum changes anything or if something will be useful specifically on the guardians

i heard the guardians are hard as balls

[severe cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/malice-mode-calamity-mod-catalyst-mod-tormented-mind-of-malice-infernum-gif-3002826838598886463

[dim aurora]

I still havent decided what option im commiting to

But yk i even killed thana once

I was sad when i died

[severe cedar]

Guardians are harder than providence herself ngl

[jovial sedge]

i kinda added brain back since i missed a slot

so

[wicked creek]

Personally I don't really like sealocket on bosses that aren't DOG, id probably use absorber over it

[dusky ingot]

I think using both the Amalgamated brain and sealocket at the same time is kinda bad

Since they will both use up their ability at the first hit

[jovial sedge]

didnt put much thought into it, i filled the new slot with anything i had before

[dusky ingot]

I think Dragonfolly gives some decent Ranger accessory so I'd do that and maybe swap it for the brain, and once sealocket is on cooldown just swap to brain?

[wicked creek]

ATP I think I'm pretty committed to ares twins

Because solo ares is TOUGH if you do it as third mech

[jovial sedge]

i was about to say that yeah

[dusky ingot]

Also I think the Daawnlight accessory was decent, but not sure

The ring with anime girl

[wicked creek]

Meh, I don't like micromanaging accessories in fight so personally I'd recommend taking sealocket out and just using another accessory

[jovial sedge]

ngl i dont know how the sealocket works so i didnt know for sure if brain worked well with it at first

[dusky ingot]

It was ranger for sure, but not sure if good

[jovial sedge]

well, now i know

[dim aurora]

Yep, ares thana kinda bs

[jovial sedge]

mostly with snipers

[dim aurora]

Sometimes feels like u cant dodge thanatos projectiles

[jovial sedge]

iirc

[dim aurora]

But the pattern there is the easiest

[jovial sedge]

and slow firing weapons

[dusky ingot]

Well if you go all in you could get 2 sets of every accessory and armor and just press F1/F2 to swap loadouts when something is on cooldown

[dim aurora]

Its just that im having trouble doing damage to twins once ares is down to half hp

[wicked creek]

I wanted to go with this at first because I wanted the melee drops but I made an executive decision of not doing that because solo twins

[dusky ingot]

Maybe maybe, but I'd check it out regardless cause atleast looks cool

And won't hurt to check it out

[jovial sedge]

also

for providence i suppose i should go for a belt for the dodge and mobility

[wicked creek]

Yeah that is the issue

Personally I use nadir for twins, the damage ain't all that good but it has pretty good homing

[jovial sedge]

but like, do i need a ram for guardians

[wicked creek]

And it's not GARBAGE damage either

[humble marlin]

Nadirs homing??
whar

[jovial sedge]

what should i expect

[wicked creek]

Very much so

[wicked creek]

Yes? The spirits home in

[humble marlin]

omfg.

if i noticed that my life wouldve been so much easier

crying rn

[heady ridge]

no chetss in my abyss,why

[wicked creek]

Unironically nadir is a great option for SCAL

[azure olive]

is this optimal for slime god

[wicked creek]

Infernum changes the way you obtain the abyss chest items

Some are crafted, some are enemy drops, some are just present in the world

One is obtained by catching critters

[dusky ingot]

Yeah everything is in a pinned message

[heady ridge]

hjow do i get iron boots

[elder nebula]

mine the skeleton near the top

[wicked creek]

Personally I prefer a dodge over worm scarf

And bundle of balloons over wings

[elder nebula]

there's a guide in pins iirc

[severe cedar]

brain is actually a lifesaver in infernum

[dusky ingot]

Yeah Brain is insane

[wicked creek]

There's a skeleton with blue eyes in the top layer of the abyss, mine it for iron boots

[dusky ingot]

Especially when you upgrade to amalgamated brain

It's one of the most cracked accessories in the entire mod honestly

[azure olive]

i also use the shinobi blade and i use the tracking disc at the end

[dusky ingot]

Almost as cracked as Ursa Sergeant

[wicked creek]

If only dodges weren't shit when combined with sponge....

[dusky ingot]

I think the Turbulance was also nice?

[gritty aurora]

is infernum multiplayer too buggy or is it playable

[wicked creek]

It's buggy but playable

[dusky ingot]

Playable, but wouldn't recommend tbh

[severe cedar]

the fact you can get the (second) best acc in the game after like your third boss is crazy

[severe cedar]

Not built for multiplayer but go ahead

[azure olive]

i think turbulance does less damage then tracking disc

[severe cedar]

Some bosses just don’t synergize well with it

[wicked creek]

Personally I'd recommend using any of the bandit weapons, they're really nice

But tracking disk for final phase sounds good

[severe cedar]

Bc the bosses will target stuff weirdly

[dusky ingot]

Maybe, but I think more range for Phase 1 if you need distance?

[heady ridge]

where about is it

[elder nebula]

guide in pins

[dusky ingot]

Well theoretically you can get like the most powerful mage weapon in the game after your first boss

(If you kill Primordial Wyrm as your first boss)

[azure olive]

i use the tracking disk only for the final phase

[dim aurora]

You cant, but im willing to use a diff class weapon

[wicked creek]

Well, could use either of the mage primordial wyrm drops, they're both really powerful

Idk which is better for twins

They'd be a bit less powerful because no mage armor but

[dim aurora]

This is more bs than polter prof guardians combined

[dusky ingot]

Oh aight

[severe cedar]

how long would that take theoretically

[azure olive]

ye, hes to fast

[severe cedar]

if you dodged perfectly

somehow

[dusky ingot]

I remember killing the Slime Gods as a mage by just using a homing weapon (Magic missile) and running away the entire fight

[wicked creek]

A long while especially because primordial wyrm LOVES to go invincible

[dusky ingot]

No clue, I don't even know if it's humanly possible, but theoretically probs could be done

[humble marlin]

its def humanly possible
its just a 20+ minute fight

[wicked creek]

Yeah the attacks are pretty easy to dodge themselves especially because I believe you have infinite flight for the entire fight, but one shot and you'd die, and it'd be agony

[wicked creek]

Probably more than 1 hour

[heady ridge]

where is thios skeleton bro

[severe cedar]

20 hours of bashing your face into the fat worm 🔥

[wicked creek]

Very probably

[dim aurora]

Exos are the final circle of hell

[severe cedar]

Because of his defense, he’ll take like 1 damage from all attacks

[dusky ingot]

Depends on weapon

[wicked creek]

I'm enjoying my time with them most of the time NGL

I AM taking a lot of attempts tho, lmao

[severe cedar]

assuming the set is like minishark + sharktooth necklace it won’t take AS long

But still incredibly long

[dusky ingot]

You could probably use Rogue or Ranger, they have decent pre-boss damage per hit

[dim aurora]

Im already at 100s

[humble marlin]

Melee would be my pick

[wicked creek]

I'm already over 200 I believe

[humble marlin]

oathsword is pretty goog

[dusky ingot]

You could use something like Handgun (I think the name was) and party bullets and probs do some damage

[wicked creek]

Not really? Especially with the high af defense

[wicked creek]

Minishark with flash rounds maybe?

[dusky ingot]

I think that may be the best pre-boss weapon

[humble marlin]

ykw im gonna try

[dusky ingot]

You could also theoretically get Palladium armor

[severe cedar]

second question is how you get to the bottom of the abyss with preboss gear in the first place

[dusky ingot]

Oh yeah, you can get Palladium repeater

[wicked creek]

It has 1 270k health

[dusky ingot]

Probably best weapon

[wicked creek]

Wayfinder spam probably?

[humble marlin]

you mine into it