calamity-addon-talk

[twilit parcel]

i just need mollusk brah

[jovial sedge]

zerg pot

[grim swallow]

tbh that was only sorta the case for ml

[jovial sedge]

• beware cuz giant clam is harder than exo mechs

[grim swallow]

90 fucking tries

[wicked creek]

Giant clam drops enough shells

No need for small clams

[twilit parcel]

like hell im fighting that thing

it got roided up in hm

40k hp

mf is gonna eat me

[jovial sedge]

deadass took more tries on clam than skeletron

[twilit parcel]

i never beat clam

[elder nebula]

skill issues

[jovial sedge]

[grim swallow]

so would smth like the phantomic soul artifact be good here

[twilit parcel]

like hell im fighting that fuckass clam

[jovial sedge]

i mean

clam phm is easy

clam hm tho

you need to like, try

[twilit parcel]

i never had a reason pre hm to fight it 💔

[jovial sedge]

like really try

[twilit parcel]

infernum legendary mode

btw

[jovial sedge]

amidas the sea king

[twilit parcel]

that guy can enjoy his time inside that clam

[dim aurora]

Everyone

[grim swallow]

I didnt do survival on infernum

[dim aurora]

I would rather suffocate inside it and die a miserable death than fight inf yharon

[grim swallow]

what will make me go survival on masodeath except for maybe mutant and abom

[dim aurora]

Well ur summoner and its so broken it shouldnt matter

[grizzled garden]

Anything I should swap for infernum Providence?

Hero shield just for defense cause i dont know what else to use

[twilit parcel]

im melee

[dim aurora]

Never mentioned you

I said that to waltuh

[twilit parcel]

sorry pal

whats yalls dash button

[grim swallow]

rmb

[dim aurora]

Q

[twilit parcel]

i was using double tap till now

didnt know i could change it lol

[dim aurora]

[twilit parcel]

how do i get corruption in my crimson

i wanna fight hive mind

[dim aurora]

Why isnt there a mod that does it like in calam

[twilit parcel]

ah shit

so she wont sell me corruption stuff

[dim aurora]

There should be a floating island with an opposite evil biome

Idk where tho

[twilit parcel]

are pre hm bosses harder in hm?

[deep tulip]

i believe right side if you started corruption and left if crimson

[dim aurora]

Thats subjective

Probably not

[deep tulip]

only clam i think

unless infernum changed

[dim aurora]

Oh i misred

No

They aint

That'd be stupid

[deep tulip]

also doing queen slime and was not expecting shit to start going crazy lmao

[twilit parcel]

hive mind kicked my ass so hard

jesus

perforator was the easiest shit of all time

[deep tulip]

i had opposite experience lol

[twilit parcel]

maybe its cuz hes soerratic

and i dont have a homing weapon

[grizzled garden]

I CANT SSEEEE😭

[grim swallow]

holy fuck

OD is cracked

[limpid raptor]

as far as i know there is a whole section of new bosses past moonlord right?

[dense ocean]

Man, you're in addon talk.

But yes, a bunch.

[elder nebula]

there's like 13

[twilit parcel]

bro

its the second day

fym theres vibrations from below

[limpid raptor]

shit my fualt yo

[limpid raptor]

preciate it tho ✌️

[twilit parcel]

dude

no entry animation

[deep tulip]

when queen slime is going to teleporting phase how the heck am i supposed to dodge the shots lmao

[twilit parcel]

no nuthin

[deep tulip]

theres so little room

[twilit parcel]

he spawns and oneshots my ass 😭

[grim swallow]

okay I need tips for masodeath OD

im doing a summoner no fargo accesorries run

[twilit parcel]

does cloud elemental follow you down to earth

or do i have to fight her in space

[dense ocean]

I mean, if you're slow enough maybe.

Not sure why you would do that.

[twilit parcel]

i dont wanna make an arena in space 😔

and i suck at the game

[dusty cobalt]

just seen nameless deity fight fir the first time and wow

certainly a boss

[dense ocean]

Time to ask Lore chat if it's canon.

[faint arrow]

might start another "idiot playthrough", if anyone has thoughts on that

like things I can do stupid for the sake of the playthrough

[dense ocean]

Play on Master mode?

[dim aurora]

Every playthrough for me

[deep tulip]

QUEEN SLIME DOOOOWN

[dense ocean]

Just killed a woman, feeling good!

[faint arrow]

true, maybe

[dusty cobalt]

not something u wanna be seen saying

[faint arrow]

and... I mean yeah, but I want to do some different idiot stuff than my last run

[dusty cobalt]

me personally

[dense ocean]

Use mage gear while using true melee.

[twilit parcel]

HOW RARE IS THE DAMN CLOUD ELEMENTAL

[faint arrow]

huh? Who.. cares, it means Anahita or SCal or some boss along those lines, within context I don't see the issue

[dim aurora]

Use summoner gear with mage armor

[twilit parcel]

IM DOWN A WHOLE ZERG POT AND IVE ONLY SEEN ONE

[faint arrow]

okay I've done that before

[dim aurora]

Congrats ig

[faint arrow]

like playing summoner with a non-summoner weapon carries dps in accless

[snow sun]

Weapons that convert ammo into cool things, but only the ones that do it will wood arrows/musket balls(and tungsten bullets). And you can’t use wood arrows/musket balls(and tungsten bullets)

[faint arrow]

among other weird things

[dim aurora]

Uhh use only spears

With summoner

Idk

[faint arrow]

maybe

[grim swallow]

Do a playthrough with several content mods but dont use gear from one of them

For example do fargos+calamity without gear from either fargo or calamity

[dim aurora]

Do a fully vanilla gear playthrough

[dense ocean]

That's how the average player here does it.

[faint arrow]

I do already have an idiot-run going kinda, but moonlord is a shit fight that I don't wanna do, and the run is on a computer I can't use rn anyways

[dim aurora]

No ram heheheha

[faint arrow]

that.. actually sounds really funny

[dense ocean]

Do minimum bosses.

[snow sun]

It does actually

[faint arrow]

only a problem for DoG, and Yharon if you aren't using Phos Gauntlet

hell, Yharon is probably the only boss where I'd legitimately consider SoC as viable, weirdly

[dim aurora]

Well yharons beatable without dashes

After all you can just dash away from them

[faint arrow]

I mean inf yharon but yeah

[dim aurora]

Oh then

Uh

Torture

Inf yharon in general

[faint arrow]

Inf Yharon is fine, the attacks are consistent

and the only one that demands iframes or a dash is the teleport attack in subphases 3 and 4

otherwise the fight is entirely doable without

[faint arrow]

fought Plantera in underworld with Terraspark boots as my only mobility... actually worked way better than I expected

like boots are way overrated in pre-hm, but then you get into hardmode and they're a decent replacement for wings?? idk is weird

[dim aurora]

For me it isnt literally anywhere

Had to switch to death

[faint arrow]

I've done it accless with phos gauntlet, hell I may skip to it for nohitting since is fun, but the attack patterns are consistent

[dim aurora]

Gotta be top 3 worst inf bosses

Objectively

[faint arrow]

the argument I always hear is that he can dash without warning and it's just luck, but... Everything has an audio cue and the attack pattern is extremely predictable once you know it

[gloomy wedge]

ive got a really stupid run depending on how good your pc is

[faint arrow]

honestly if subphase 5 was more interesting it'd probably be my favorite, still in top 5 for me

[twin patrol]

what do i use for plantera rogue infernum?

[grim swallow]

Also if you are not photosensitive do infernum shroomed fully

[dim aurora]

The weapon one of the calclone twins drops

Is prolly the best

[elder nebula]

crushaw crasher

[dim aurora]

Yep

[twin patrol]

alr

[grim swallow]

Idk I used the anges spear with stealth
Its cool looking

[dim aurora]

Feel like my rogue runs gonna be much easier

[faint arrow]

but hell no, Yharon is def not in the worst inf bosses, may I divert your attention to.. Moonlord, Eater Of Worlds, Signus, Old Duke, Plague Goliath, Ravager, Destroyer, and Aquatic Scourge real quick

[dim aurora]

First of all i hate melee 2nd of all this is my first ever inf playthrough

[grim swallow]

Yharon has some consistency and patterns

[faint arrow]

if you're learning Yharon just equip Sponge and some tanky stuff

[grim swallow]

Signus is just a gamble

[dim aurora]

None of these are bullshit as yharon is (except old duke hes top 3 too)

[faint arrow]

yeah, it's.. very consistent

[grim swallow]

"will I get 4 slashes in a row"

[faint arrow]

okay Signus slashes are pretty bs, and.. what's bs about yharon

[vital mulch]

plaguebringer and aquatic scourge are awesome fights

[grim swallow]

Hey pbg is not as bad as these

And AS

[faint arrow]

yeah fair, I have a personal bias on those two to be fair

PBG I find.. just annoying to dodge, and too punishing for what it is

[grim swallow]

Moonlord is bad but not the worst imo

[dim aurora]

Tornados that appear out of nowhere, the off screen attacks with "audio cues" that are all similiar, the inconsistent dash direction, the weird yharons rams where he damages you mid iframes or the ram doesnt even count

[faint arrow]

and AS.... idk the underwater flight thing is so stupid, the fight itself is fine but like... at least let flipper potions function during the fight I swear to fuck

[dim aurora]

My experience

[faint arrow]

the tornadoes appear as part of the attack cycle and are thus fairly predictable (and have a visual cue iirc as well), I've never had the iframes be buggy, and... the audio cues say "he dashing" but you still have to learn the attack pattern

[grim swallow]

Id say the worst 5 inf fights are
5) ravager
4) weaver (genuinely what does he do he dies too fast)
3) signus
2) destroyer (man I love a random 225 damage bomb)

1. old shit

[faint arrow]

it's infernum, learning how the boss works is a big part of it

[dense ocean]

Providence sucks.

[faint arrow]

I've fought weaver twice and it didn't die too fast for me, but I wasn't doing proper gear either time either so yeah

[grim swallow]

Hm: sprime and hive mind

[dim aurora]

He doesnt work, its a lazily made, unfun, bs dashslop

[faint arrow]

and Destroyer would be fine if the bombs were more fair

[grim swallow]

Well thats tour opinion

[dim aurora]

Destroyer has bombs?

[grim swallow]

Even though I do want to cast apotheosis at your house for that opinion

[dim aurora]

Oh the ones from above

Yeah

My top 5 is old duke, yharon, crabulon, plantera and astrum worm

No particular order

[faint arrow]

you say it's dashslop when DoG, Destroyer (when ram isn't even as notable), both Fishron bosses, and Dragonfolly exist

like Yharon yes has a lot of dashing, but that's.. kinda because it's an agressive boss, and still the only attack that really needs a dash is the teleport in subphases 3 and 4

[faint arrow]

wild list

[dim aurora]

Never noticed any dashslop with destroyer

Dog has non dash attacks and the fight is atleast well made

Dragonfolly is just pathetic

[vital mulch]

dashslop 🤔 🤢
dashgem 💎 🥰

[dim aurora]

Normal fishron is a fun but short fight

Odduke yeah no one argues abt it

[grim swallow]

For me my top 5 best infernum fighrs would be
5) BoC (I will die thinking its the best pre hm boss in infernum and a top 3 pre hm boss oat)
4) EoL (another fire fight, would be higher if not the peak concentration higher)
3) cal clone (a very fun and difficult fight)
2) scal (same as with cal clone)

1. prov

[dim aurora]

Some bosses i just 1 tried and xould just forget so excuse me

[grim swallow]

Normal fishron isnt dashlop wdym

[dim aurora]

Yeah

Most of his attacks are projectiles

Fishnados and stuff

[faint arrow]

I haven't yet fought old duke on-tier yet so it may replace, but my least favorites (in order) are Moonlord, Destroyer, Eater, Signus, and AS

[faint arrow]

he's.. still dashing at you for 2/3 of the fight

[dim aurora]

No?

[grim swallow]

Well fishron has some good attacks besides dashing

[dim aurora]

That isnt dash slop

[faint arrow]

he spawns a projectile then dashes while the projectile exists, then summons a projectile and dashes while it exists

[dim aurora]

Yharon dashes the entire fight

[faint arrow]

that's... kinda the whole fishron fight

[dim aurora]

Thats dashslop

[grim swallow]

Dashslop is only a viable term for od dog and yharon

[faint arrow]

it's a good fight, fishron is good, but it's similar dashing to the other dash-heavy ones

[wicked creek]

Old duke is not a good boss sadly in infernum

The projectiles are entirely useless, so all that remains is dashes
Normal dashes are fine, but then the final phase speeds up to absurd degrees

[vital mulch]

when the vanilla boss which primarily attacks by dashing attacks by dashing in infernum as well 😲

[faint arrow]

od I still haven't fought, DoG is the dashslop one even if it's kinda fun, Yharon.. is a dash-heavy boss but is really well made

[dim aurora]

Imo for vanilal bosses its fair since its the original design

For cal its just lazy design

[wicked creek]

(believe me, the post ML dash trio will REALLY put into perspective just how much dashes is "dash-heavy"

[dim aurora]

For such a big mod too

I mean inf

Vanillas just very easy and boring imo

[faint arrow]

I've beaten Infernum. 5 times. One without using accessories at all.

I know how the endgame plays lmao

[vital mulch]

surely when reworking a boss you should completely change its core identity

[faint arrow]

but when an 8 minute yharon fight is way easier than a 3 minute destroyer fight, or the moonlord fight....

yharon aint bad

[dim aurora]

It is dude

[grim swallow]

Still
Saying a lot of dashes= dashslop isnt true imo
A lot of dashes but some other attacks=dash heavy, like fishron EoC and etc

[faint arrow]

honestly once I get into the pattern mindset for yharon, it's fun as hell so I don't mind it taking a while, is just fun

[dim aurora]

You havent brought up a good argument against that

[vital mulch]

dashslop is such a stupid term

[faint arrow]

that's fair, then I... wouldn't consider yharon dashslop

[grim swallow]

P1 yharon isnt imo

P2

[faint arrow]

it's dash-heavy, but it's fun

[grim swallow]

Absolutely

[faint arrow]

that is fair

[grim swallow]

Out of the three dashslops dog is the best one imo

[dim aurora]

Love when running for my life from the boss i run i to tornados

Or i get cornered

[faint arrow]

subphases 1-4 are amazing, subphases 5 and 6 needed to be more interesting, but I like subphase 7 being rapid dashes as a sense of desperation

[dim aurora]

With 0 warning btw

[faint arrow]

it just.. had to start later, is my only criticism for the boss

[dim aurora]

It starts off with the homing lil tornados where

Theres 2 for some reason

Then they just spawn randomly

Its absurd

[grim swallow]

Also the only boss I dont just dislike but genuinely hate is polterghast

[dim aurora]

2 is way too much for a boss that requires you use your entire arena space

[faint arrow]

if subphase 5 (and maybe 6) was reworked to be more of a middle ground between subphases 4 and 7... yharon would be a legendary fight imo

[faint arrow]

I haven't had to nohit polter quite yet but ik that's coming eventually... but from normal playthroughs I haven't minded polter any

[grim swallow]

Yeah but for me no fight will beat infernum provi

[dim aurora]

Yharon has way too much hp

[faint arrow]

like the accelleration is weird but... just stop running like a chicken who lost its head?

[grim swallow]

Polter has a lot of attacks yet for half the fight he uses 1

[faint arrow]

not if you use proper weapons

[grim swallow]

And polters desp 1 attack is arguably a bottom 3 attacks in thr mod

[faint arrow]

also DoG has almost double Yharon's total health

[dim aurora]

4m is way too much considering the dps increase from dog is small

[faint arrow]

Yharon is just annoying to hit

[grim swallow]

Dog is a worm

Worm hp is different from normal bosses

[faint arrow]

my fights are generally closer to 8m, because summoner without a proper support weapon is bad, and I've.. still never minded

[faint arrow]

true

give me a moment then

okay so... Providence has 900k health

Yharon has (just under) 970k total

[grim swallow]

Huh

[faint arrow]

according to infernum wiki

[grim swallow]

I could have swore yharon had 1 mil in each phase not total

[faint arrow]

Yharon has never been particularly tanky, the long fight is just weird builds and/or boss being rough to hit

[faint arrow]

it might be per-phase, if I'm reading "total" wrong

but I can check rq

[grim swallow]

Its per phase

So yharon has around 1.9 mil hp

So basically 2x provs hp

So that is more than inf dog

[dim aurora]

Support weapon?

Huh

Like the eye?

Damn isnt summoners dps ridicilous

[faint arrow]

or a whip, or literally any other class weapon

[spare summit]

A lot of that is owed to whips, sentries, and lunic eye/eye of Magnus

[faint arrow]

when I say support weapon for summoner, I mean in the sense that I've played summoner armor while using melee/magic/rogue weapons a ton of times

in accless you don't get as many summons, so they actually end up outpacing normal supports

against Yharon.. I had phosphorescent gauntlet, which not only is a bad weapon but also inflicts summon damage penalty (still had better damage with Silva than Fearmonger armor)

[faint arrow]

ah alr, dunno why the wiki puts "total" by it then

since it doesn't for other bosses

[grim swallow]

The wiki isnt fully made I believe

[faint arrow]

that's fair, my bad then

[grim swallow]

But yeah

Yharon has a little more hp than dog

And thats including dog being a worm

Yharon isnt the worst boss but he is annoying to damage

Especially as melee

[wicked creek]

Does that include BOTH phases together

[faint arrow]

damn, huh alright then

[faint arrow]

yes

[grim swallow]

Yes

[wicked creek]

Oh ok

[grim swallow]

He has around 2 mil but both phases have 100k hp that arent a part of the fight

So he has like 1.8 mil

[grim swallow]

(I do not want to do tmelee yharon aith lion heart again)

[twin patrol]

why isnt mothron spawning i am on plantera and it isnt spawning i am on infernum

[grim swallow]

On plant or post plant

And they are rare

[teal crag]

how did i die

https://medal.tv/games/terraria/clips/kXmwPk1DJK2b3d4vw?invite=cr-MSxPekMsMjExNTUxMDM4

[wicked creek]

Why did you use lion heart for it

[grim swallow]

Because I wanted a fair fight and that isnt the case with ccr murasama

[wicked creek]

Enforcer? Was that worse than lionheart?

[onyx basin]

im i good for dog? as im struggling im playing catalyst, ftw, mp, infernum

[grim swallow]

Yeah

[grim swallow]

Why do you have 2 shielda

And get the wings from prov

[dense eagle]

normality relocator if you want rod of discord on keybind

[onyx basin]

is it not better for the boots to have it as it frees up a slot?

[grim swallow]

You dont need boots

At all

[wicked creek]

Get elysian wings instead of tracers, and replace the absorber with cherished sealocket, and Asgard's valor with whatever offensive accessory you prefer. I recommend profaned soul artifact.

Weapon wise, just use virid vanguard and tenryu/mutated truffle

[dense eagle]

boots dont give you anything

[onyx basin]

really damm ok im pretty sure i have them

[onyx basin]

the tracers?

[dense eagle]

yea, cuz you can just fly

and

wings from provi are stronger

[crystal trellis]

is fargos summons not infinite after u beat a boss?

[gloomy wedge]

no

[crystal trellis]

but i consume them and they disappear

[onyx basin]

is this better? also is the ethereal subjugator not better than the virid as its the summon from polter

[fading dove]

little polters shoot a projectile that has travel time

virid vangard always hits the head

[elder nebula]

replace brain with absorber

[onyx basin]

ohh ok thanks

[fading dove]

dog's head has a higher damage mult on inf (2x) than in basecal (1.1x)

[gloomy wedge]

then its a dlc thing

[grizzled garden]

Bro how do i dodge this if i cant see

[gloomy wedge]

move slowly

[fading dove]

the nonconsumable part of summons is a dlc thing

[onyx basin]

i went close to him as you can see better or the far sides

[grizzled garden]

Ok ill try it

[faint arrow]

welp imma do another idiot run ig

just gotta pick crimson or corruption as always

[alpine temple]

do you use terror talons as spam or stealth?

[faint arrow]

oh yeah those exist, that would be a good rogue weapon to try for plantera sometime

I always used Excorcism (stealth weapon) lmao

or whatever the hallow-based cross was called

[alpine temple]

So is it spam or stealth lol

[onyx basin]

is this the best setup i can get for dog?

[dense ocean]

Man I think you don't have enough healing potions.

[faint arrow]

test them and find out

[onyx basin]

you sure i mean i think i got like 4 or like 5

[faint arrow]

I was wondering how I got the achievement for a gnome, this is... interesting

no complaints, but weird

[dense ocean]

Why are you urple?

[faint arrow]

ourple!!

[dense ocean]

What on earth is that thing?

[onyx basin]

where could one acquire such a image

for research

[faint arrow]

ourple cat :3

[fading dove]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-why-are-you-blue-why-are-you-purple-gif-8831271285347108756

[faint arrow]

find artist to comm

[granite bough]

I wonder how hard it would be to theoretically implement an entity i made for a minecraft mod
resprite it for terraria

and then implement it as a custom race

for mrplague's races mod

[onyx basin]

is it a oc?

[faint arrow]

yeah that.. is basically how convos with a friend go, they threaten to dunk in yellow paint for "too ourple" (and then that has spiraled a lot farther)

[dense ocean]

How much time do you have?

[faint arrow]

the char is mine/me ye

[granite bough]

me with my ourple suit:

[granite bough]

either all of it or none at all

depends on the day

[dense ocean]

Then not too hard or impossible, depends on the day.

[granite bough]

Usually, though, i have all of it

awesome

[normal slate]

its mine bro

[granite bough]

I should post the entity for reference

[dense ocean]

It also wouldn't be respriting, it would be making a sprite.

Is it a bee?

[granite bough]

uh check #general-media

so thats what the entity looks like in minecraft

i didnt post it here because this isnt a minecraft server

[dense ocean]

Well, I'm sure the race mod has documentation to make custom races.

[faint arrow]

no

[granite bough]

yeah my bad

[light gulch]

I'm not sure if this is Fargo's Souls waiting to really go ham on the difficulty of if Intergelactic armor is just that OP but I'm scared either way

[dense ocean]

Just make sprites, which I'd assume you know how to do.

[normal slate]

i think you'll find it is

[granite bough]

I meant using the original texture to base the sprite off

[dim aurora]

what exo do i do first as melee

[granite bough]

well i know how to make minecraft textures

cant be that different tbh

[grizzled garden]

Isnt elysian wings only from night time or is that changed in infernum?

[faint arrow]

how come

[granite bough]

I mean, I even implemented a custom resource pack into my personal server

[dim aurora]

always thought of whips as the primary weapon

[granite bough]

that adds an actual jumpscare

without mods

[dense ocean]

Why the urple furry robbing the Cat in the Hat?

[granite bough]

LMAO

[normal slate]

i colonised it

promised 3000 years ago

[wicked creek]

Ok so in base calamity, wings are from hallow providence, and aegis from hell providence. NEVER only from night providence.

In infernum, there's only one place you can fight her at, so they drop both there

[dim aurora]

no?

where did you get that

[faint arrow]

cuz

mine :3

[dim aurora]

inf just drops both cuz you can only summon her in her garden

[grizzled garden]

Ohh i thought it was from night providence, what does night drop?

[dense ocean]

American.

[grizzled garden]

I thought night dropped something

[vital mulch]

🇨🇱

[grizzled garden]

brother im allowed to be wrong sometimes chill😭

[wicked creek]

Both + dye

In infernum, the dye drops on daytime too, but night time drops an item you can craft into an accessory that disables critical hits, but increases damage and speed of the items

[dim aurora]

ur not

[grizzled garden]

Ohh cool 👍 thanks for the information kind sir

or maam

[dim aurora]

when you are in a being passive aggressive useless piece of crap competition and im the opponent

[grizzled onyx]

in infernum it drops from provi in daytime

[granite bough]

sorry i tabbed out

[grizzled onyx]

it drops from her if you kill her in the hallow or a t nighttime in normal cal

[granite bough]

:fuck:

[grizzled garden]

😭 Fr though what did i do

MY FAULT for being wrong😔

[wicked creek]

Ok anyways, I've been doing a bit of infenrum exo mechs, starting with ares, furthest I got was ares+ Thanatos phase

The patterns he does are mostly fine.... Except the phaseslayer attacks, those are hard as balls

And the fact that it's RNG based attack order is very weird, infernum is usually not like that

[faint arrow]

okay so.. seriously though, why does moonlord have to be such a bad fighttt

like I know it still has to be moonlord, but surely there was another way to keep its identity

[dim aurora]

how is ml a bad fight to you yet yharon is somehow fun

[faint arrow]

yeah it's weird, which part are you mentioning it rng though?

[faint arrow]

how is yharon so easy to beat, while moonlord is still a minimum of 20 deaths in a casual playthrough

[wicked creek]

The very first part, it always starts with laser + pulse blasts, and follows up with laser+ Tesla, but after that the attack order is non existent

Sometimes it does blender beam, sometimes it does phaseslayer, sometimes it just continues shooting with the other arms

[faint arrow]

like pretty sure ml is the sole reason I give up on so many infernum runs

[dim aurora]

took me 26 attempts first playthrough

[fading dove]

elysian wings are her hallow drop in basecal, and it should be obvious why she drops them in hell in inf

[faint arrow]

the sword/blender attacks... it does one of them but which one is random.. and which attack pattern comes after I think depends on which of those attacks ares does, but not sure

the pattern still somewhat exists, just isn't fully consistent y'know

[faint arrow]

which one, yharon or ml

[dim aurora]

ml

yharon i technically didnt even beat

[wicked creek]

Yeah, but sometimes it does neither

Weird

[faint arrow]

ah

yeah I... still generally take around 50

like I can do everything pre-ml pretty easy

[wicked creek]

Anyways still learning ares, and even when I do get past first phase, ares + Thanatos phaseslayer combo wrecks me because I don't understand it fully yet

[faint arrow]

I hit ml, die several times and finally visit the tinkerer to reforge stuff, and then still the fight is like minimum 5 minutes and super punishing

like ML is just.. so stupid I swear

[dim aurora]

idk once you learn it it should be a simple fight

[granite bough]

Infernum drops both but at the cost of your soul and FPS

[dim aurora]

maybe ur dodges are wrong

[faint arrow]

I.. again I've beaten infernum 5 times

[fading dove]

ml can be afkd

[faint arrow]

maybe? idfk

[fading dove]

aauuhh

[grizzled garden]

Should i use terragon or keep using stardust?

[dim aurora]

idk what you are implaying by saying that

[faint arrow]

woulda thought I'm dodging ml right, and the fight is pretty easy until all the eyes are out (even if tedious asf because it still takes forever)

[fading dove]

he has no attacks that inflict defence damage so you can just stand still and do nothing and win

[faint arrow]

as in I've learned basically every other fight, idk why Moonlord is the only one that feels particularly unfair

[fading dove]

the only mildly menacing thing is when you have to eat the entire black hole

[faint arrow]

like yeah there's also destroyer, but it's at least skippable

if I'm suffering too much

[covert estuary]

Scal is too hard i might use anti social , this the first boss i ever use anti social on (and the last)

infernum

[fading dove]

not exos?

[covert estuary]

hold on

[fading dove]

just turn on go go gadget murder goku

[covert estuary]

if theres a cheese for Scal

[faint arrow]

hang on I'm just trying to find flinxes, why did I find this

like I've been in the world under 30 minutes

[grim swallow]

Okay guys
What summons do I use for OD

Masodeath

[fading dove]

virid vangard i think

[faint arrow]

SCal isn't bad, it's a fight that takes a lot of deaths on a first playthrough to learn the patterns, by the third run she shouldn't take long

she's just one where you have to really learn her patterns, making her.. a pretty good final boss for Infernum, actually

[covert estuary]

idk i dont want my friends to watch a guy die for 5 hours

[grim swallow]

The more I play infernum thr more I enjoy scal

[grim swallow]

Is it better than dazzling stavbers and tenryu

[grizzled garden]

The more I play infernum the more i realize normal calamity is easy as flip

[fading dove]

not sure

[grizzled garden]

whats OD

[fading dove]

but i do know that they have perfect tracking

old duke

[grizzled garden]

Ohh

[faint arrow]

then... do it out of vc?

[grizzled garden]

I have never fought old duke

[steep whale]

old duke is really easy if you know how to ram dash

[fading dove]

not true

[alpine temple]

Lol I got really lucky I got cal shadow to 2% died found out I got crushers from her brothers, and the weapon just destroyed her lol

[steep whale]

it took me like 2 tries

[fading dove]

you still take damage

[grim swallow]

I am doing masodeath

[faint arrow]

that or just let them enjoy watching you suffer

[steep whale]

brothers are more of a threat than cal is herself ngl

[wicked creek]

I mean that's kinda the point of playing a challenging difficulty mod

The bosses are fun but hard, and you have a challenge to beat

I'd understand if you're not having fun and wanted to skip ahead, but Calamitas IS the final challenge so at that point like why even bother , if you're not having fun?

[steep whale]

that stupid projectile attack they do hits me at least once every time

[dense ocean]

Why is the urple here?

[grim swallow]

Masodeath od got turned into absolute peak

Its no longer just dash

He has a flamethrower for some ungodly reason

[faint arrow]

hard disagree, the hexes rng can be stupid and the final phase is a lot harder than the brothers

[grizzled garden]

Nothing has changed from normal calamity, I still hate Ceaseless void lol

[covert estuary]

yea ur right , idk why im rushing actually i took this run pretty slowly

[steep whale]

you need to kill all eyes at about the same time

[covert estuary]

its like i just wanna get the new gear

[steep whale]

if you let 2 eyes out and don't kill the third, they will do a super long attack that is really hard to dodge and the third eye will be closed the entire time

[faint arrow]

yeah I get that, but killing the eyes takes around 3 minutes

[steep whale]

what class are you?

[faint arrow]

I've had that happen, but it's always where the hand is low enough I can kill it after just 1 attack cycle, so I've never minded

[faint arrow]

that's talking my experience as... mage, summoner, archer, melee, rogue, and multiclassing

[steep whale]

for melee imo its pretty easy to kill the eyes fast

[wicked creek]

If it was another boss, I'd understand

But new gear for what, exactly? There's nothing left after Calamitas

[grim swallow]

The thing I always hated about any iteration of ml is the top eye being closed for half the fight

[dense ocean]

Unless.... no, you wouldn't!

[grim swallow]

That happens in vanilla infernum and fargo

[covert estuary]

what? i thought theres a new material for new weapons , mage upgrades, kevin

[faint arrow]

I've.. I'm used to 4min ML being fash

[steep whale]

if its taking you a long time to kill a boss, you need more offensive accessories. too many defensive accessories can actually make a boss fight less safe because the boss has more opportunities to use hard to dodge attacks

[faint arrow]

and with how easy it whittles me down over time, I take hits occasionally and end up dying

[steep whale]

let me see how long my ml kill was

[limber sage]

without wotg, there's only boss rush post supreme calamitas and exos, and shadowspec tier gear

[wicked creek]

Yeah but that's post-game

They're silly, and there's nothing really to use them on

[grim swallow]

I think my ml kills are always around 3 minutes

[faint arrow]

I generally bring like.. a pair of wings, 1 or 2 defensive accs (Hero Shield and Mabrosial Ampoule) and then the other 3 offensive

[snow heart]

any mods i can download that hopefully wont break my world? im thinking of catalyst

[dense ocean]

You could fight Adult Eidoling Wyrm, I guess.

[dense ocean]

Mid-playthrough?

[gloomy wedge]

I’d say you could flip that and get better results tbh

[snow heart]

post dog

[grim swallow]

There are 2 good mid playthrough cal addons

[steep whale]

for some bosses, especially ML heart, the safest way to kill it is usually to nuke it as fast as possible before it does anything

[gloomy wedge]

Mostly defensive accessories with offensive boosts thrown in there

[dense ocean]

I wouldn't recommend it.

[gloomy wedge]

Yk unless you’re summoner

[grim swallow]

HotOG and catalyst

[twilit parcel]

i feel like im missing something

why is cloud elemental not spawning

[faint arrow]

flip it to where

[snow heart]

aight

[steep whale]

it has to be raining

[faint arrow]

also that's... 3 offensive accs for still a 5-7 minute killtime

[gloomy wedge]

3 or 4 defensive accessories with 1 or 2 offensive ones

[grim swallow]

My builds are always wings-dash-dodge and remaining accessories are dps

[faint arrow]

depending on class and how well I aim

[dense ocean]

Is it raining?

[faint arrow]

I.. brought terraspark boots to Plantera, instead of wings

[twilit parcel]

yearp, and im in space right?

[gloomy wedge]

It works great for melee, ranger, and mage since they don’t rely on accessories very much

[twilit parcel]

the music is spacey

[steep whale]

hold on im logging on to see my ML kill time

[dense ocean]

It's a rare spawn.

[twilit parcel]

ive sat here for half an hour

and seen 2

with zerg pots

[faint arrow]

like I kinda never use more than 2 movement accs, especially since default dash exists

[grim swallow]

Ehh

Works I guess

[gloomy wedge]

Rogue is a little harder to do it with but its still perfectly fine

[steep whale]

2 min 15 seconds

[gloomy wedge]

But its way harder for summoner

[grim swallow]

I only have a lot of mobility accessories early game

[gloomy wedge]

Since you kinda need at minimum 2 or 3 accessories just for slots

[faint arrow]

it.. worked plenty fine

[grim swallow]

Magilumiscence double jump boots

[gloomy wedge]

Personally once I can the only mobility I use is fishron wings

[faint arrow]

terraspark, featherfall, and a platform in the underworld and she was dead attempt 2

[steep whale]

if you have fargos make the horn

[faint arrow]

I've never used them thus far, tbh

[steep whale]

battle cry

[gloomy wedge]

Featherfall genuinely might be the best potion in the game

That skill ceiling is astronomical

[faint arrow]

ikrrr

[steep whale]

for moon lord my setup was amalgamated brain, community, angel treads, beetle wings, fire gauntlet, and i think hide of astrum deus

[faint arrow]

hell I've played so much accless I can't use normal wings without featherfall, like

issue with featherfall is now I struggle without lol

[gloomy wedge]

I haven’t done much that needs featherfall but I really want to learn how to use it someday

I know how much absurd shit it can do

[steep whale]

weapons were exalted oathblade and grand guardian im pretty sure, and beetle armor

[faint arrow]

play accessoriless, featherfall hard carries that challenge lmao

at least, after you start hardmode

[gloomy wedge]

I might try accless after I beat edeath hc and maso hc

That or just continue doing hc runs because they’re super fun

[steep whale]

accless infernum doesnt seem possible ngl

[gloomy wedge]

It def is

[faint arrow]

also clarification on ML, never minded it in challenge runs (like accless), the game is already hard so another hard boss isn't bad

[steep whale]

i dont really get how you would beat some of the later bosses without ram dash

[gloomy wedge]

Myrindael abuse is most of your movement iirc

[faint arrow]

then I do a casual run and it still rocks my shit, and that's why I don't like ml

[faint arrow]

eh about a third to half yeah

[steep whale]

oh yeah i forgot about movement weapons

basically what im trying to say is put on amalgamated brain as soon as you get it and never take it off until like yharon

[faint arrow]

you beat profaned bosses with a lot of improv, DoG with Plaguebringer armor for the dash, and Yharon generally with Phosphorescent Gauntlet and summons

[faint arrow]

yeah I do

hell I've gotten it pre-hm cuz I stumbled upon roxcalibur in one run

[steep whale]

also on infernum the egg sword is really really good

call upon the eggs

the other good infernum weapon is the one from profaned guardians

the spear that throws rocks

[faint arrow]

but yeah accless inf is possible, hell I'm 29/47 nohits for it so far

[grim swallow]

Once used it for after dog

[wicked creek]

Having the dreadnautilus be a summonable boss is probably the most impactful infernum change for my playthrough NGL

[faint arrow]

with Empress, Cultist, Deus, and Argus being the only bosses left pre-ml

[grim swallow]

Because calamity community remix does an insufferable change to amalgam

[dense ocean]

If you're just good at the game you don't get hit, so you don't need accessories.

[grim swallow]

It had the effect of sulphuric scales

[faint arrow]

and Empress would be easy as hell if it wasn't for the moon attack

[steep whale]

theres an argument to be made that amalgam is better than sponge if you only get hit infrequently, since it wont take away adrenaline

[dense ocean]

Argus? You mean Ravager?

[dim aurora]

is the burning sky good

[faint arrow]

yeah, except accs also give movement so

[wicked creek]

Not particularly

[faint arrow]

no I mean argus, bereft vassal

[grim swallow]

I always agree with a dodge being over a sponge

[dense ocean]

Oh, that makes sense.

[faint arrow]

Ravager was the first boss I did after Golem, was easy as hell tbh

[grim swallow]

But I meant that I used amalgamated brain

[dim aurora]

just say yes or no

[granite bough]

I'm going to rant like a nerd for a moment, but lowkey if I turn my entity (one of like 7 so far) into a custom race I'll also have to do some other difficult shit lol
some of the abilities the entity (will have) in the mod (after it is implemented) include fucking with the 4th wall, some entities can darken your screen and freeze it temporarily
I'd have to add a custom ability with a HUGE cooldown, that gradually darkens your screen to almost blackness, and then deals like 8% maximum HP damage to everything on screen (except worm segments)

[steep whale]

its outclassed by dragon rage

[wicked creek]

That is a no

It's not optimal for any boss or boss phase I can think of

[faint arrow]

Aquatic Scourge was annoying, had to have an entire platform arena underwater, in sulfur sea of all places

[dim aurora]

ok

i thought maybe its usable for exos

[faint arrow]

plus AS just.. excpects high mobility I didn't have

[wicked creek]

It IS usable

But outclassed

[steep whale]

aquatic peak

[dense ocean]

Why on earth do you have so many reaction images.

[grim swallow]

AS when I bring deep diver

[dense ocean]

There's another?!?

[faint arrow]

ah, yess but it's accessoriless

also isn't half of deep diver buffs when underwater

[tranquil yarrow]

Damn I just did circles around AS the entire time and the boss couldn't hit me at all.

[steep whale]

for exos use dragon rage for worm, zenith for eyes when they split off from worm, and dragon pow for ares

[faint arrow]

it.. took me about 700 deaths to nohit

[steep whale]

pick bosses 1 and 3 to get worm first

[fading dove]

does deep diver even work on aquatic scourge and jared

[grim swallow]

Ohh sorry

[granite bough]

I'd also have to add a night only ability that adds another moon

dont ask

theres a lot of fucking story

[faint arrow]

lemme check this rq

[dim aurora]

what in the hell is the 2nd one

[grim swallow]

Felt like it

[granite bough]

once-a-night ability

[tranquil yarrow]

Damn I don't blame you for that. Any nohit would be hard.

[steep whale]

zenith is the sword from base terraria

[dense ocean]

Someone hates the tide.

[faint arrow]

yeah so.. the "improved water mobility" of deep diver does nothing against AS

[dim aurora]

i mean eyes splitting off from worm

[granite bough]

real, lmao

[grim swallow]

Interesting

[granite bough]

it actually uh

[tranquil yarrow]

It's more like infinite flight than water physics down there.

[grim swallow]

Could have swore it did have more range on the dash

[faint arrow]

it wasn't even just the nohit, I died like 50 times making a platform arena through the entire sulfur sea, so that sucked to do

[granite bough]

the second "moon" would actually corrupt over progression stages

[dim aurora]

i technically need to craft 2 goddamn zeniths

[granite bough]

maybe it'd be once per playthrough

[faint arrow]

yeah, disables water collision entirely, then gives infinite flight

[granite bough]

can onyl be activated in hardmode

brb

[dim aurora]

pow is kinda one for flails

[steep whale]

the boss has "dual attacks", the eyes will attach into the worm for the dual attack and chase you like dog, they split off to do their solo attack where theyre far away from you

[faint arrow]

which I know because I tried using flipper potions against the boss. They do nothing

[dim aurora]

ok this is weird i gotta watch nohit

[grim swallow]

I have done one no hit in my playthroughs

Inf dog

[faint arrow]

yeah, there is no more water during AS, the only collision is to check for enrage

[steep whale]

also theres a way to get the worm to kinda circle around you and be unable to charge you but its kinda hard to explain

[faint arrow]

can I send you what the nohit ended up looking like, perhaps

[tranquil yarrow]

Oh sure I'd be interested.

[faint arrow]

cuz like yeah it was easier than Destroyer or CalShadow (dodging Destroyer Dashes with CA was a pain, also bombs... and Shadow hexes can be stupid)

[tranquil yarrow]

Might gotta pick up the art of nohitting for fun.

[wicked creek]

Once you bring the first one to 50% HP, the second choice comes in and they do combo attacks

Once they're both at 50%, the third comes in and you kill them solo, then the two come back again, once you kill one of the two, the final one goes in desperation phase

[faint arrow]

but it ended up being fun by the end of it

[steep whale]

yeah i no hit king slime im pretty good

[faint arrow]

AS did, I mean

[faint arrow]

yeah I abused that for my AS nohit

[dim aurora]

oh

is worms the easiest?

[faint arrow]

trying to hook fling in circles was super inconsistent so eventually I just gave up and got AS coiled instead

[wicked creek]

Thanatos is the easiest to bring down with dragon rage yes , and in general is the easiest

[dim aurora]

ok

[wicked creek]

Ares I hear is the hardest? And twins are middle of the pack

[faint arrow]

not really?

it.. entirely depends on how you interact with them

[steep whale]

you want the worm to be with the eyes imo, they have the easiest combined attacks

[faint arrow]

I've always found Ares pretty easy to dodge, same for Thana, and Twins a bit annoying

[faint arrow]

I can't stand that one

[steep whale]

ares combining with the other bosses makes it way harder

[dim aurora]

im confused

ts hard

[faint arrow]

I'm not gonna get in a "this is better!!" argument, point is

[steep whale]

the eyes dont even do anything in that version they like literally cant hit you with any attacks

[faint arrow]

spend several deaths trying different combinations, then pick a route to avoid the phases you dislike

[faint arrow]

it just is an annoying one for me

I always do ares -> twins

[steep whale]

i think ares is easiest by itself especially so you can get adrenaline and rage and nuke it before it does anything

[faint arrow]

but yeah, try different phases, the two you pick will never combine with the third mech so plan your route accordingly

[faint arrow]

yeah, I find solo ares pretty easy, then ares+hunters also pretty easy

and same for solo Thana

then I generally kill Ares to do the hunters desp

[steep whale]

ares combining with thana makes the fight like impossible

[faint arrow]

I wanna do it now lmao

[steep whale]

because during the rotating lasers thana also shoots you with lasers

[fading dove]

blenderbeam is easy

[granite bough]

back

[faint arrow]

but again, point is don't ask "what's the easiest mech combo", it's... very very subjective

[steep whale]

twins and thana are so much easier they dont even do an attack

[fading dove]

phaseslayer slams is impossible accessoryless though i think

[steep whale]

its literally dog charge attack with 2 eyes stuck to the front

[faint arrow]

people new to exos, just test all the attacks yourself until you find the set you feel is most reasonable

[gloomy wedge]

This

[fading dove]

due to requiring rubberbanding and long dashes

[gloomy wedge]

Personally I think hunters thana is easiest since you get ares out of the way immediately

[dense ocean]

How many of those do you even have!?

[faint arrow]

the gas the twins send out has annoying hitboxes in my experience, hence why I don't do it, but I may be remembering wrong

[gloomy wedge]

And Thanatos is VERY easy to cheese

[sleek bramble]

the 3rd guardian was on 3%...

[gloomy wedge]

(And twins desp is free)

[faint arrow]

too many

[dense ocean]

What situation even calls for that one?

[faint arrow]

I think ares+hunters is the easiest duo, very consistent in my experience

[steep whale]

yeah summon thana first, get him to half, do thana + twins which is easy and build up rage + adrenaline, when ares is summoned nuke him immediately, then when twins and thana come back kill thana first, do twins final phase

[faint arrow]

it was one I got initially thinking there would be more use cases... but is a fun Inscryption reference so ah well

[steep whale]

thats easiest pattern imo

[gloomy wedge]

I tried this a couple times but the blender just demolished my fps lol

[steep whale]

you dont get the chainsaw that way but the chainsaw sucks so who cares

[wicked creek]

Yeah

Trying to understand the twins solo pattern a bit at least

(I can't aim so I'm trying ataraxia for twins? I hear that works too even if it's not as good as zenith)

[faint arrow]

that's fair lol

[fading dove]

ataraxia requires more aiming

zenith has homing

[faint arrow]

yeah fair

[steep whale]

zenith is easier i dont think ataraxia has homing

plus zenith can hit both eyes

[fading dove]

locks on to a valid target within like 20 tiles of the cursor

[faint arrow]

but yeah just try the exos until you figure something out

[fading dove]

or was that first fractal

[steep whale]

no zenith doesnt have homing but its hitbox is huge so it doesnt need it

[steep whale]

its really not even a melee weapon its more like a "put your cursor on the boss and they take damage" weapon

[twilit parcel]

i got the rarest drop twice

before getting storm saber

[wicked creek]

Ok I need to learn these twins

[faint arrow]

that tracks yeah

[faint arrow]

not necessarily

[steep whale]

twins solo attack can be difficult, twins when combined with thana are genuinely pathetic

[faint arrow]

again, try all 3 exos and figure out what combos you are/aren't willing to do, and plan your own route accordingly

[steep whale]

they literally cant hit you with a single attack, the laser always misses

[fading dove]

im watching it home right now

[faint arrow]

the amount of conflicting "this is easier" "this is easier" everyone throws out the moment exo mech order comes into play is.. yeah not worth paying attention to

[wicked creek]

Huh I guess I could leave them for second and then just kill ares solo

That's true

[faint arrow]

it's a fun debate to have once you know the fight, but not the best advice to give to people who don't know it

[fading dove]

ive heard horror stories of solo ares

[faint arrow]

the 2 you pick you do as a duo phase

and the other you do 100% to 0% at once

so plan accordingly, hah

[grim swallow]

Solo ares is the terror of all

[steep whale]

wrong reply

its over

[faint arrow]

I find it easier than solo hunters, and I don't like the duo phases with Thana, at least in accless

[steep whale]

basically ares is the actual boss and the other 2 exos are just there

[grim swallow]

For me I choose exos combinations based on what O need

[fading dove]

alright yeah i get not doing thana + ares in accless

considering its

impossible

[faint arrow]

yeah exactly lmao

[fading dove]

phaseslayer slams 🤤

[wicked creek]

Well ares is more comprehensible than twins for me

[steep whale]

benefit of ares third solo is you can get rage and adrenaline for him

[faint arrow]

yeah that's where I'm at with the fight

[wicked creek]

Probably because I'm a beginner

[faint arrow]

eh, but I don't really find ares hard enough to be worth melting

[grim swallow]

If I dont need shit from exos I do thana ares

[steep whale]

really? i feel like twins you just circle around them

ares you have to dodge a hundred predictive projectiles

[faint arrow]

I generally do Ares first and end up with adrenaline for Twins+Ares, then Thana I fight and get adren to melt through the other duo phase

then have an adren to help tank the hunters desp

[steep whale]

hunters desp is the easiest one though

[faint arrow]

I mean, they're pretty easy to fake out though, none of them move fast at all

[twilit parcel]

boutta go insane

[steep whale]

you just circle around them

[grim swallow]

Thana

[faint arrow]

yeah, I just generally make some mistakes

[steep whale]

thana is literally dog, if it hits you once with mouth its like 700 damage

[faint arrow]

fair

gl

[steep whale]

im not risking thana desperation clipping me with a dash after a literal like 6m fight

[grim swallow]

Well and after playthrough number 1 dog isnt a problem like at all

[wicked creek]

Yeah but those projectiles are pretty easy to bait

Twins I can't get the circle right

[faint arrow]

yeah but it's slower, so Phos Gauntlet actually works for it

or I can just swap to Plaguebringer armor and resummon stuff after, idk

[wicked creek]

Ok but consider: you can essentially skip it with Drage

[steep whale]

circle when theyre doing the rapid fire laser

[faint arrow]

depends whether I get comfortable with my dash

can we.. abandon the exo mech convo for now though

each one has things easier or harder depending on skillset and what the player is better at doing, soo

[steep whale]

i died like 5 times on thana desperation so i did twins instead and first tried it

[grim swallow]

True

[faint arrow]

like I've seen the exact convo go in better circles than playing against ares blender makes you do, because different skillsets find different parts of the fight tough

[lilac torrent]

anyone got a dodging tip for infernum twins? i keep getting clipped by spazmatisms fireballs during the double attack in phase 2 (when retinazer shoots a giant beam at the ground and spaz shoots a fireball spin

[fading dove]

iirc thana head has a base damage of 820

[grim swallow]

Like for me even though solo ares is insane I find thana twins the easiest

[solar badger]

I think I lost Solyn

[faint arrow]

which also makes giving advice of "this is easiest" kinda dumb for someone new to the fight, the only advice I'd say is worth giving is "I'm struggling with this specific attack, how do I dodge" responses

[fading dove]

or was it 960

[faint arrow]

and not "do a different combo"

[dense ocean]

Try to get far away.

[faint arrow]

no, that.. doesn't work

[steep whale]

if you see a projectile coming move your character out of the way of it i think

[faint arrow]

Inf Twins basically lock around your position

[grim swallow]

Well "attempt a different combo" tip can help

[lilac torrent]

thats what i do, but i go too far or too short and get clipped by the fireballs

[fading dove]

oh thana head takes 5/3 damage

[dense ocean]

You need to space yourself between the fireballs.

[faint arrow]

basically just move horizontal, and fit in a gap, and it generally works pretty well

[covert estuary]

lmao , i just replaced my hp regen item with the sponge , and won first try infernum Scal

[fading dove]

im guessing thats why the halibut bloodflare works like that

[faint arrow]

in my experience you can go between the projectiles from Retinazer's attack pretty easy, they have a good gap, then dodge Spaz's fireballs, if that helps

[steep whale]

i still dont get why people think the ares laser is easy, they say "go close so its slower" but you just get hit by the homing orbs if that happens?

[lilac torrent]

its the specific attack, where ret shoots the giant beam downward and spaz makes the fireball circle
i have it mostly down but i always end up getting clipped by a fireball, and i cant fit cobalt shield in so i get comboed a little </3

[grim swallow]

Strongernormalshot is fire

[fading dove]

not to be confused with PowerfulShot

[grim swallow]

Tf is powerful shot

[steep whale]

yeah you want to try to get farther away when he does that since the farther you are the more time you have to position

[grim swallow]

Is it the name for blenderbeam

[steep whale]

so when he does laser at the ground move diagonally away from it

[fading dove]

no idea

[wicked creek]

Wait a fucking second

You can ram through ares phaseslayer?

[fading dove]

yeah

[dim aurora]

do sulphur scales need the acid rain

[fading dove]

thats how youre meant to dodge it

yeah

[wicked creek]

.....that explains so much

[dim aurora]

fuck

[steep whale]

yeah genuinely a bad design choice

[fading dove]

you're meant to rubberband ares

[steep whale]

its one of the only non charge attacks in the game you can ram through and theres like 0 indication you can do that

[wicked creek]

Which is a shame because so far exo mechs seem fun, but I really do need to wrap my head around them better

And actually building a proper arena

[steep whale]

hot take, exo mechs fight is just like 1-2 phases too long to be enjoyable

i think they shouldve removed the third mech entirely so you just fight first half of 1, then 1+2 until one dies, then desperation of last

and you pick the 2 you want to fight

[grim swallow]

Tbh if we ever get yharim I wish his whole fight would be something like that but more interesting

Like there are constant slashes but you need to think what to dodge and what to ram

[twilit parcel]

WHY DID THE TWINS AND SKELETRON JUST RANDOMLY SPAWN???

WTF

[dim aurora]

for some reason i cant use murasama in the new inf structure in desert

[steep whale]

the fight just goes on way too long and the exo mechs are too tanky, and theres so many attacks you have 0 chance of dodging unless youve seen them multiple times before like phaseslayer blades which youre supposed to dodge through except how would you know that because no other attack in the game could be dodged through until this point?

[fading dove]

modlist?

[twilit parcel]

i thought "the air is getting colder around you" was skeletron only 😭

[wicked creek]

I think 2 mechs only would have been too fast, especially if one of them is Thanatos

[twilit parcel]

calamity overhaul and infernum i believe

[grim swallow]

Masterdeath

[steep whale]

2 mechs but you have to fight all 3 combinations to pass maybe?

[twilit parcel]

ah

[fading dove]

its cal overhaul

[steep whale]

so you kinda get "checkpoints"

[twilit parcel]

ah

[fading dove]

cal overhaul fucking sucks

[twilit parcel]

idek what cal overhaul does

[fading dove]

it corrupts your files 🥰

[twilit parcel]

oh

like wrath of the gods?

it also did that :D

[fading dove]

wotg doesn't corrupt files

[wicked creek]

I understand the goal you're aiming for but idk about that tbh

[fading dove]

i know boss checklist does

[twilit parcel]

it made me insta crash whenever i went to the abyss or hell or jungle

which was weird

[fading dove]

cal overhaul is guaranteed to corrupt your world if you dare disable it with any item from it in your world

[steep whale]

idk i think the fight is just genuinely too long and the desperation phase isnt even cool it really feels like an extra "fuck you" attached to the end of an already 5-6 min long boss fight where one hit does half your hp

[twilit parcel]

oh god

[fading dove]

this is consistent among everyone btw

[twilit parcel]

uhhhhhh

[fading dove]

so it can only be assumed that its an intended feature

[steep whale]

ngl its ares, 90% of the problems with the fight are just ares

[twilit parcel]

i guess i just keep it enabled then???

it forced my hand

[fading dove]

you can delete every item from it to safely disable it

[steep whale]

ares is waaaaaaaaaayy too tanky for no reason, even with dragon pow hitting bugged dps numbers he takes forever to die

[twilit parcel]

how do i figure that out

im not boutta check every item

[fading dove]

is the item from calamity overhaul? if so, put it in your trash slot

[steep whale]

does cal overhaul even add any items

[fading dove]

yeah

they got a whole wiki

[dim aurora]

i gotta craft 2 terrablades

aughhhhhhhhhhh

[twilit parcel]

im not boutta check my entire magic storage

for cal overhaul stuffs

ill just keep it on and pray i dont forget

[spare summit]

There’s an option to sort by mod

[twilit parcel]

maybe write a sticky note or somethin

[fading dove]

you can just do @modname

[grim swallow]

Is there a mod like cal overhauls ranger thing that doesnt include cal overhaul

[steep whale]

im sad infernum will never get a balance update because i do think a lot of the post dog content needs a balance pass

[twilit parcel]

?!

[spare summit]

Infernum is gonna be killed soon
This might be the last update it’s playable for even, idk

[fading dove]

replace modname with the internal name of the mod

[steep whale]

dont make me play death mode please

[fading dove]

for example, @fargowiltassouls for souls

[twilit parcel]

oh so its overhaul that adds those fuckass grabby guys underground

[spare summit]

Just click where it says “all mods” to cycle through it

[steep whale]

death mode be like "what if the bosses werent fun"

[fading dove]

or @fargowiltascrossmod for souls dlc

its funny how cal overhaul adds weapons like it doesn't make murasama objectively better than literally fucking everything

[spare summit]

Felt that
Boss reworks are in progress but not anywhere soon enough

[steep whale]

yeah but murasama is really fun and cool

only good part of that mod

and im pretty sure its stolen

[fading dove]

play the stars above if you want cal overhaul murasama

[twilit parcel]

ok maybe calamity overhaul isnt too bad

[steep whale]

master death mode 9429848942% hp boss

[steep whale]

thats only at one progression tier

thats already the problem with original murasama, its cool but you only get to use it for like 1 boss

[fading dove]

we have women elsewhere

[twilit parcel]

i know im just joking

what does calamity overhaul even add 💀

[mystic oasis]

Is there anywhere I can find good collections/mod packs. I'm trying to find a good collection of mods for calamity playthrough but there are so many mods. The workshop is so cluttered with different collections as well.

[twilit parcel]

i just downloaded every calamity mod i could find and removed them until i stopped crashing

[spare summit]

If you want anime girls and better murasama you might like stars above

[steep whale]

also ngl infernum weapons kinda clear most of the other modded weapons ive used

[fading dove]

these weapons at least

[steep whale]

the spear that throws rocks is amazing

thinking about switching to rogue post scal just to use the awesome rogue weapon they added

dont even know what it does but the sprite is amazing so it must be good

[spare summit]

It’s broken

That’s infernum tho

[steep whale]

good :3

thats my reward for beating every boss on infernum

[fading dove]

it 1 frames scal

[steep whale]

1 shotting nameless diety with broken rogue weapon

[spare summit]

Very good for farming exos for that stupid wotg book

[fading dove]

nameless has rdr iirc

[spare summit]

It won’t one shot nd but it will one shot Thanatos

[steep whale]

jk ill prob use regular weapon for end of wotg because i want to experience the fight

and goozma..

[fading dove]

goozma dies fast with just basecal gear

[spare summit]

I’ve used storm maiden’s against nd and avatar and it lasted a pretty average amount of time

[steep whale]

then ill use pre yharon gear

[fading dove]

this was with exclusively basecal

the loadout

[spare summit]

If I were you I’d want to get goozma done with asap

[steep whale]

tfw all the endgame weapons have been sealed by goozmas curse

[spare summit]

Cool loooking boss but wtf is the gameplay

[fading dove]

the fight sucks outside of 2 attacks that i kinda enjoy

hallowed itty bitty sun dances
astral constellations

[dim aurora]

does anyone know why my saucer is...

[fading dove]

didn't have enough slots to spawn

[grim swallow]

I always do goozma pre exos and scal

[twilit parcel]

is calamity overhaul a bad mod in general

[fading dove]

yeah

[spare summit]

Check pins

[fading dove]

check pisns

[twilit parcel]

oh ok

should i change my modlist mid run though?

will that explode everything

[spare summit]

If it involves uninstalling overhaul yes

To both exploding and should you do it

[sleek bramble]

orange

[spare summit]

Just get rid of all the overhaul stuff and backup your world

[grim swallow]

I hate the crimulan slams and third of the blue slime

And p2 starter

[twilit parcel]

isnt the world automatically backed up

theres 2 files for my world in the thing

the folder of folders

[spare summit]

Should be but for some people the automatic backup is corrupted too

[twilit parcel]

alrighty

maybe wrath of the gods didnt break my game

maybe it was wrath of the gods + overhaul that wasnt the best combo

[spare summit]

Wotg is really laggy but shouldn’t break anything

[twilit parcel]

crashed my game everytime i went to the abyss/hell

is that a common thing?

[steep whale]

probably overhauls fault

[spare summit]

It’s not a wotg thing

[twilit parcel]

holy shit the celestial claymore SHOOTS THE STARS AWAY???