calamity-addon-talk

[small flower]

Guys, how do you get station buffs (heart lanterns, campfires) in the profaned garden?

[median kiln]

anything i gotta do before fighting a hardmode boss

[smoky dock]

You cannot, it isn’t possible

[small flower]

Not shield of cthulhu 😭

[median kiln]

this does nothing to help btw 🥰

[small flower]

Ok, use evasion scarf

Or counter scarf/deep diver if you are pre mech boss 1

@median kiln

[cedar laurel]

dread shell instead of rover drive trust

[fading dove]

what the fuck is this

[small flower]

Dunno what dread shell is but i recommend charm of myths or emblem

[fading dove]

terraspark boots 😭

[fading dove]

neither of those are good here

charm of myths is an alright early prehm option

[small flower]

They are good wym?

[fading dove]

emblem is genuinely just throwing

[cedar laurel]

Fargo accessories on it way to destroy vanilla and cal accessories

[small flower]

O alr

[smoky dock]

In Fargo’s Souls the power level is generally higher, so options that are good or decent in vanilla may become weak in comparison

[cedar laurel]

Force of life right next to tarragon wing 🙏

[median kiln]

would it be advisable to use an enchantment

[cedar laurel]

Yeah

Get wizard ench now it’s real fun

[indigo spire]

my lazy ass won't read allat and follow cal guide instead

is there like a guide for Fargo or

[fading dove]

you would get your ass kicked by mutant

nope

don't need one

[cedar laurel]

They got accessories tierlist

[indigo spire]

I mean you already combine almost all of accessory at that progression

[smoky dock]

You still don’t have enough slots to use all of them

[median kiln]

replace meteor with it?

or is meteor fine

rover should be replaced/

[cedar laurel]

Nah it’s used to upgrade other enchantments

[smoky dock]

Just use stuff as you get them. You’ll need it all eventually. If you don’t like what you’re using, then just swap it

[cedar laurel]

Example it make meteor ench faster

I think

But you gotta equip both

[smoky dock]

wiz enchant is just a Balatro blueprint

[indigo spire]

where is it

[cedar laurel]

Wiki

Hurriedly put together accessories tierlist or something

[fading dove]

good items include zephyr boots (direct upgrade over terraspark and also prehm), supreme deathbringer fairy (1.3x dash velocity and +50% fall speed is pretty tasty), ancient shadow enchantment, cobalt enchantment, wizard boosted meteor enchantment, spider enchantment (summoner focus but its just eye of the golem for every other class ), cobalt enchantment, wizard boosted palm wood enchantment, rich mahogany enchantment (its so fucking good trust me), wizard boosted obsidian enchantment (requires a high base damage weapon and some specialised arena prep), wizard boosted copper enchantment (destroyer murderer), wizard boosted gladiator enchantment (very good on destroyer), titan heart enchantment (if you're comfortable not leaving the ground too much), wizard boosted molten enchantment, wizard boosted pumpkin enchantment, fossil enchantment, pungent eyeball (if you're good at tracking with your cursor)

[fading dove]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1obh1n7TIxufvph4KQy1rv7rO4bL1au0XJNESTQptLZ4/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.qz8l2nyjukur

[cedar laurel]

yap

[smoky dock]

shut the fuck up

[cedar laurel]

ok

[fading dove]

i just listed a bunch of random pretty good shit off the top of my head for post wof

oh yeah dread shell is really tasty

hit the parry and watch the bossbar empty

[indigo spire]

what's wizard boosted

[fading dove]

when you boost an enchantment with wizard powers

we love casting spells

[median kiln]

new setup

[fading dove]

wiz boosted giant tortoise shell

shit is doing nothing for you rn

swap meteor and wiz

[stray badger]

i have 5 open summon slots for inf scal what should i use them on?

[fading dove]

mirror

[stray badger]

alr ty

[brazen wasp]

is GSS no longer post planterra in infernum?

[stray badger]

i think its a bit later because its pretty difficult but you can beat it immediately after

its after lunatic cultist

its now called the bereft vassal

[brazen wasp]

so the desert tiger staff ism now post pillars?

[indigo spire]

it's post plant I think

like other biome chest do

[brazen wasp]

i cant get the desert chest key without killing GSS unless theres another way i dont know of lol

[fading dove]

???????????????

have you never gotten a biome key in vanilla?

[brazen wasp]

i havent played in a long ass time lol, im a lil slow to

i just go off of recipe browser

[elder nebula]

keys have a 1/2500 chance to drop from any enemy if you're in the biome

in hardmode obv

[gloomy wedge]

A GOD DOES NOT FEAR DEATH!
look inside
fears death

[fading dove]

A GOD DOES NOT FEAR DEATH!
look inside
no divinity

wire

[gloomy wedge]

anyways dread shell might be the most baller accessory ever designed

Just Hit The Parry Lmao

and you deal 7 trillion damage for no reason

[indigo spire]

eater of god

[uncut ocean]

having played infernum 1 and 9/10th times, here is my infernum boss tier list

[spare summit]

Hell nah what did cryogen do

[uncut ocean]

you wanna know how long he took to kill

on my first playthrough

TWENTY EIGHT FUCKING MINUTES

[indigo spire]

little too mobile for early hm

[spare summit]

Don’t use true melee then

[indigo spire]

except for summoner

[fading dove]

what the fuck

[indigo spire]

most ranged weapons are short range

[fading dove]

did you like fall asleep

[spare summit]

I’m right you’re wrong bye bye

[uncut ocean]

even without true melee i have residual bad will against him

[uncut ocean]

no i was awake the whole time

[uncut ocean]

WHY IS DOG IN BOTTOM TIER ☹️

[spare summit]

He has one move

[night fractal]

incorrect

He has two moves

[uncut ocean]

but it's a really fun move...

[spare summit]

One move that you’ll actually get hit by unless you’ve inhaled a lethal dose of carbon monoxide

[indigo spire]

how is polterghast hard in inf

[uncut ocean]

his rhythm is engaging and challenged the player to position themselves well at every second or else theyre dead

[indigo spire]

I find it relatively easy

[heavy void]

Why is cryogen so low

[uncut ocean]

he isnt he's just boring

[uncut ocean]

.

[heavy void]

Bro what

28 minutes in one attempt or total

[uncut ocean]

one attempt

[spare summit]

It’s the same motion for a minute and a half, it’s just boring especially when you mess up twice and you’re dead

[heavy void]

What the hell gear r u using

[uncut ocean]

regular gear for that stage of the game

[heavy void]

Fight took like 4-5 min for me

What class

[indigo spire]

what class

[uncut ocean]

true melee 🥲

[heavy void]

Alright bruh

[indigo spire]

ofc

[heavy void]

Coulda lead with that

[uncut ocean]

i know brimlance makes it easier but i didnt know that at the time

[spare summit]

Would it have killed you to get sub shocker first

[uncut ocean]

but even with brimlance it wouldve still been miserable

[uncut ocean]

SUBMARINE SHOCKER IS USELESS AGAINST CRYOGEN

it's too fuckin short

[heavy void]

I feel like the game isn’t balanced around true melee

[rustic eagle]

Is goozma multiplayer compatible

[spare summit]

You were using afershock

[uncut ocean]

yes

well that and breaker blade 😭

[indigo spire]

goozma balls

[spare summit]

Even dark lance would be better

[heavy void]

Why not use the dark lance at that point

Lmao we both had the same idea

[rustic eagle]

Sybau

[uncut ocean]

i might be stupid...

but even without true melee or without the 28 minute fight

it's still tedious and annoying

and permafrost is a lazy asshole for not using his magic to at least TRY to get himself out of there

[heavy void]

I liked cryogen in infernum

He felt like he’s actually supposed to be fought at the start of hm

[indigo spire]

it probably have something that paralyze him

[heavy void]

I remember fighting him in death a long time ago and couldn’t hit him with anything besides the prismalline

[uncut ocean]

the one redeeming quality is antarctic reinforcement is a banger

[indigo spire]

fargo cryogen boss fight is literally just fighting the permafrost himself

[spare summit]

I killed it in maybe 2 minutes with dao of pow and equanimity

[heavy void]

Uzi is a cheat code

[indigo spire]

I kinda don't get where he attacks you after you freed him

[bitter jacinth]

man

[indigo spire]

isn't there cobalt rogue weapon that homes on enemy

[bitter jacinth]

i was struggling against BoC with a Boomstick

at some point i went to hell to get money and got a Bladecrest Oathsword

decided to make an attempt against the brain today and somehow won

i made crimtane armor, changed an accesory with the brai and instantly went for the perforators
i won again on the first attempt

i love you so much Bladecrest Oathsword

[heavy void]

I think this was before that was a thing

It was a long long time ago like 2-3 years ago

[heavy void]

Get an old lord oathsword you’ll love it even more

It’s my favorite phm weapon

[humble marlin]

old lord claymore or bladecrest oathsword

[indigo spire]

atleast old lord projectile hits something

bladecrest is still carries tho

[median kiln]

Bladecrest carries hard

[fading dove]

unless its a boss that moves

[verbal hedge]

bosses move?

[worldly fulcrum]

hey it doesn't work

oh wait wrong channel

[spare summit]

what the hell happened to my leviathan

[crimson trail]

yes what am i doing wrong

[faint arrow]

honestly idk

[crimson trail]

i keep getting the scourge to 49%

[faint arrow]

give me a sec

I can try to do a quick demo-like fight

or something

[crimson trail]

whats that supposed to mean

[night fractal]

You don't have any mobility

That's the issue

[crimson trail]

fleeting lucky horshoe :

[night fractal]

get sandstorm bottle and Hermes boots

or their upgrades would be even better

[crimson trail]

heheh thats the neat part, i have the sandstorm bottle and i need one more swiftness potion for hermes

[worldly fulcrum]

does anyone here know how to recreate the cosmic shiv bug?

I wanna try it

[night fractal]

play in multiplayer

that's about it

[crimson trail]

hermes boots is useless for desert scourge if ur gonna have to constantly jump

[night fractal]

Not true

It also helps your max air speed

[crimson trail]

how do i get swiftness potion since i only need 1 more for it

[night fractal]

craft it

or go loot chests for one

[crimson trail]

i dont have an alchemy table

[night fractal]

it uses a bottle

[crimson trail]

oh ive been doing that for like an hour

[night fractal]

blood orbs needs alchemy table

[worldly fulcrum]

I did that and it does not work

[night fractal]

the normal recipe doesn't

[crimson trail]

is uhh that all?

[worldly fulcrum]

anything else?

[obtuse minnow]

You dont have molten armor thats why

[night fractal]

The normal swiftness recipe is just some herbs and a water bottle @ a placed bottle

I think

Just use recipe browser and look at the one that uses a bottle for the crafting station

[crimson trail]

i have you know i am not fishing

[night fractal]

technically you don't have to if you find Roxcalibur and shimmer it

But like

good luck with that lol

[crimson trail]

after scourge im getting victide armor and urchin mace and seashine sword

after that idk what else to get

[night fractal]

have you played calamity before at all

[crimson trail]

in multiplayer yeah

[night fractal]

ok cool

Then just explore the general progression and find stuff

[crimson trail]

but in solo

...

[worldly fulcrum]

it didn't work btw, I'm in multi and it did not one shot yharon

do I perhaps first need to go to my single player world, get the cosmic shiv and a summoning item and then go to multi?

[night fractal]

if you're struggling go use the wiki class setups page

[night fractal]

I don't know tbh

[crimson trail]

k ill check it rn

[night fractal]

All I know is it happens in multiplayer

[stray badger]

why does inf scal keep giving me bat banners?

[worldly fulcrum]

it still does not one shot

wtf is happening

[crimson trail]

btw which mech boss and post mech 1 boss do i fight first

[night fractal]

up to you tbh

I don't really know

[chilly wolf]

Does anyone know the damage calculation formula of Infernum?

[crimson trail]

i will try to defeat DScourge tmrw

[obtuse minnow]

fishing is fun

[limber sage]

too bad it's essentially getting crippled in SSO

[fast magnet]

I was gonna asksomething about geldon nohit but i forgot

[night fractal]

?

Fishing is just getting improved in sso

[fast magnet]

Oh right

Do i have to nohit both phases of geldon for the scythe

Or only second phase

[limber sage]

are y'all not doing those changes from that post? about removing all cal modded items from crates?

[elder nebula]

only second iirc

[fast magnet]

Like if i get through first phase and die

Then resummon

[limber sage]

and nerfing a lot of fishing power bonuses?

[fast magnet]

Sick

Ok

Idk what class i should do for it then

Maybe like melee

Entropic claymore and flairon

100% the safest options i have

I could do summoner

Uh

[night fractal]

We're removing them from vanilla crates

but like that's not that many things lost

[crimson trail]

btw do u enjoy being a developer of calamity'

[night fractal]

yes

I wouldn't do it if I didn't

it's not like I have any reason to do it besides enjoying it

[crimson trail]

what stuff have you worked on?

[night fractal]

The only thing you'll see in the current version I worked on at all is Tenryu

Because it was based off some code I wrote for worm minions before I became a calamity dev

next update I've worked on a lot of stuff though

[crimson trail]

btw how do u know such good advice for cal and infernum

[night fractal]

I have a good memory

[crimson trail]

oh

[crimson trail]

do you do multiplayer

[night fractal]

No

[crimson trail]

oh i was gonna see if u wanted to do one

[crimson trail]

btw what will be the most fun inf boss for me

[night fractal]

Idk

I haven't played most of infernum bc I didn't like the parts I tied very much

Except DoG I liked

[opal wagon]

Does the Fargos world generation and extra loot mods work with Calamity?

[heavy void]

astralgeldon might be the hardest boss ive ever fought in this game

[opal wagon]

High key Astralgeldon wouldn't be nearly as hard if it's weird special dimension didn't reduce your game to 10 fps.

[fast magnet]

The nova slimers are what nuke my fps

[fast magnet]

hes pretty easy once u get to know his patterns

[fading dove]

this is true geldon is free

[fast magnet]

the trick is to not move TOO much

idk how to explain it but its like

[fading dove]

https://youtu.be/gRhbLD3k-KY

some attacks require very slight movement once you get late

[heavy void]

ive never fought him before so this is the first time im learning a new boss

i havent learned a boss in ages

[fast magnet]

yeah thats a really good video

dont get greedy for the absorber field like he did tho

[fading dove]

the loadout for that vid was reaver tank, empress wings, absorber

thats it

and ofc tainted ataraxia to clean it up once it got to a point where the majority of fights are over

[fast magnet]

if its outside of the arena just dont bother

[fading dove]

yeah a lot of my hits were from greed

[fast magnet]

oh thats your video

thats sick

[fading dove]

interstellar corruption is a nothing debuff if you dont play near the edge

[fast magnet]

wait is it your video

[fading dove]

yeah

[opal wagon]

Yeah but every time you don't get greedy and take unnessecary damage, an angel loses its wings.

[fast magnet]

Ok

[fading dove]

trueline

[opal wagon]

Honestly, Geldon's a pretty fair fight all things considered, it just causes my frames to crash.

[fast magnet]

same lol

[fading dove]

ive gotten a 1:33:xx geldon time before

[opal wagon]

I think it's arena zone is pretty generous, at least compared to SCal or something like that.

[fast magnet]

especially the nova slimer cross attack

[fading dove]

once you learn the fight its not that hard

[fast magnet]

scal’s is a giant solid box

[opal wagon]

Nova slimer attacks from hell :///

[fading dove]

nova slimers are the most menacing part for the earlier times

[fast magnet]

geldon’s isnt and it will deal damage

[fading dove]

but the homing stars directly after start to be a lot worse the further you get

[fast magnet]

it moves around a bit during the fight

[opal wagon]

Yeah but SCal's attacks are also a lot more numerous, so it ends up giving you the illusion of free space.

[fading dove]

they do 8 revolutions before the trail disappears

[opal wagon]

At least in my experience, Astrageldon's arena zone gives the feeling of free space better.

[fading dove]

which yes does happen

[opal wagon]

But ofc that's subjective.

[fast magnet]

alternatively what i do against the dashing is i ram through to the other side of the arena and keep doing that until the attack is over

[fading dove]

i should do a long ass geldon fight to practise for 12 Heures de Geldon

[heavy void]

astrageldon does so much damage that my usual tank builds dont work at all

no matter what he trucks you for 200+ damage

[fast magnet]

well yeah its a superboss

and its stuff replaces tarragon

u essentially have tarragon armor pre ml after u kill geldon

which is supposed to be a post provi armor set

for defensive accessories ur best options are probably ampoule and absorber

Amalbrain as well bc it gives a dodge

and 10% free dmg which is always nice

[heavy void]

i been using astral armor for this fight

might switch back to hallowed for the dodge

i just got it down to 39% on my 6th attempt

[fast magnet]

what class are u

[heavy void]

ranger

i was using mage for that run cuz i saw a vid with a swarmer

but i didnt realize the swarmer got nerfed

[fast magnet]

swarmer is still good

use hive pack with it

mage’s lack of accessories pre ml makes it a pretty free addition

u can do specter armor with butterfly wings for mage substats or fishron/empress wings for better movement during the fight

then arcane flower, sigil of calamitas, and hive pck for offensive

and angel treads and ampoule or absorber for the last 2 slots

[heavy void]

only reason why i would go mage is because the swarmer has good homing

but the vortex popper with chlorophyte bullets is also decent for that

[fast magnet]

yeah

[heavy void]

i dont see a reason to use angel treads or aegis

[fast magnet]

swarmer applies acid venom and poison as well i think

[heavy void]

the dash is kind of annoying and youre flying 90% of the time anyway

[fast magnet]

from the wasps and bees

[heavy void]

yeah but the dot prob wont matter much

im gonna max out survivability and regen

[fast magnet]

ok

u could go summoner as well

Or melee

probably the easiest options for the fight

1 terraprisma rest stardust cell for summoner

entropic claymore and flairon for melee

both with hydrothermic armor

[heavy void]

does astrageldon give any debuffs

so i can use infected jewel

[elder nebula]

yes

[fast magnet]

Astral blight

[heavy void]

ok bet

heres my full loadout

might switch to astral for the extra defense but i also feel like the dodge from hallow is better

[fast magnet]

is everything reforged to warding

u can also use brittle star rightclick with summoning potion and bewitching table for an extra free 15 defense

[heavy void]

gg boys

just beat it with that loadout

[heavy void]

yea i always use that

my life regen was insane

bro i had shaky nerves at the end ive never felt that before with a terraria boss

[fast magnet]

w

[heavy void]

is metanova the same tier as terragon

[spice pike]

Hallowed is an interesting play.

Not bad just never see anyone use it that far in the game.

[elder nebula]

the dodge is separate from accessory dodges

for some reason

[heavy void]

Honestly it was a really fun fight

I like it

[heavy void]

Best hm armor set imo

[spice pike]

Worth trying?

[fast magnet]

yeah

[heavy void]

Yes

Hallowed armor + amalgamated brain + star veil

2 dodges + extra iframes

[opal wagon]

Infernum Exo mechs

[heavy void]

If you can dodge decently half the times you get hit you don’t even get hurt

[opal wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-lebron-james-starting-5-shouting-yelling-gif-13955809540164079004

Very fun

[fading dove]

oh thats funny

hallowed reflect eats up the geldon seal hitbox

[heavy void]

What’s seal

[fading dove]

damn it was that short?

[lofty mist]

What’s the best melee weapon and gear setup for maso death eoc

I’ve beaten the other three pre-evil bosses, haven’t tried enchantments or whatever they’re called yet

[smoky dock]

true melee probably

[lofty mist]

True melee isn’t a weapon lol

[smoky dock]

it’s a way of life

[lofty mist]

I totally forgot you need aerialite for bundle of balloons so now I’m just stuck with three different balloons lmao

[smoky dock]

makes it easier to get BoHB once you beat evil2

[lofty mist]

I’m liking maso death so far, waiting to get to hm and post ml though cuz that’s where cal shines the most

I wanna compare maso to infernum now that I’ve beaten infernum

I also have wotm and wotg installed

Bc exos are favorite boss

[lofty mist]

I’m on eoc

[smoky dock]

Yeah

It makes it easier

For when you

[lofty mist]

Desert scourge threw me off bc my last run was infernum and I was taken so off guard by the attacks

[smoky dock]

Beat Evil2

Souls really rewards you for getting stuff early btw

If you get an enchantment, use it for a while, and then hate it you’ll still be happy you made it later on

[lofty mist]

I’ve never played fargos so I’m trynna go for normal cal setups

Which is probably a terrible idea but

Ummmmmm

I still get the crown jewel right

From KS

Maybe that’s a stupid question

[smoky dock]

Yes you’ll be rewarded for getting pretty much anything

[lofty mist]

The vanilla mob reworks are throwing me off

[smoky dock]

So it doesn’t really matter whether or not it’ll be immediately useful

Crown Jewel is still a component for the very competent Infected Jewel and VERY competent Radiance

[night galleon]

check the fargos wiki

mainly the enchantment availability and hurriedly put together accessory guide

[lofty mist]

Question about it actually

Is victide armor still viable for eoc

In fargos I mean

[night galleon]

i mean pretty much any armor is, since eoc isnt really TOO difficult

what class are u

[lofty mist]

Melee, I always run melee unless I’m bored

I did infernum and my base cal run on it so it’s what I’m used to

[night galleon]

it should work fine

i recommend bladecrest oathsword

[lofty mist]

I’ve been running that yeah

Found one in a chest in azafure

[night galleon]

and if ur crazy u can grind for ancient shadow armor

but victide should work well enuff

oh and btw once u get to post skeletron

the combat wrench is surprisingly powerful

[trail yew]

infernum perforator is the most unfun boss I've fought lol. I've beat vanilla, and death master mode calamity and he takes the cake.

[smoky dock]

perfs are funny

if only the ichor blob hitboxes were uh

smaller

[trail yew]

it's just unplayable on infernum lol

[smoky dock]

idk i think I just have like, stockholm syndrome over them

[trail yew]

hive mind is no where NEAR as difficult

which makes no sense lol

[smoky dock]

I kinda liked them despite it being hard

https://youtu.be/I0rpGvrItVw

i’ll have to redo them

[fading dove]

for the unknowing in here

that box is what hurts you

[smoky dock]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-disintegrate-half-life2-hl2-gif-23941439

[trail yew]

?

are you joking ?

[fading dove]

nope

[trail yew]

xd

such a trash boss

hard but in no way thats fun

[heavy moat]

Oops!

[fading dove]

imo inf perf hive is pretty fun overall

doesn't stand out much besides the basecal projectile hitbox but it doesn't have to

[smoky dock]

I liked perfs in a fucked up kinda way

[trail yew]

I am no-hitting the boss

[fading dove]

ah

[trail yew]

and its just not fun to fight lol

[smoky dock]

Oh

[fading dove]

my apologies

[trail yew]

the first like 1.5 minutes is a waste of time

[smoky dock]

Yeah perfs nohit is rough

[trail yew]

the first 2 phases you can beat without touching a or d

[smoky dock]

What weapon are you using

[trail yew]

trash summoner

[smoky dock]

have you tried Volcano

[trail yew]

I'm doing summoner no-hits rn

:[

[fading dove]

you have vile feeder im not sure how that can be considered trash

[smoky dock]

have you considered

reconsidering

and doing true melee nohits instead

[trail yew]

💀

ive considered not considering that

[fading dove]

oh yeah i pushed maso exos below 1:40 thanks to tmelee

[smoky dock]

please reconsider

[fading dove]

the one piece i needed was swapping out sponge for dsa

[trail yew]

idk melee and ranger both feel boring to me

[fading dove]

true melee is very much not boring

[lofty mist]

I may or may do that on vanilla runs sometimes

[smoky dock]

true melee nohitting drove me so insane that I experienced an integer underflow and became divine.

[lofty mist]

I remember doing it on my 3ds one time too lmao

[smoky dock]

Argus is my magnum opus

Check this shit

[trail yew]

honestly perf is making me rethink wanting to play infernum

[smoky dock]

https://youtu.be/exSi_s2C9PM

skip perfs if you want

[trail yew]

I might just have to skip to the last like 5 bosses and no-hit those and call it good

[smoky dock]

you can always return later

[smoky dock]

this and empress

[trail yew]

then you have to match the gear

[smoky dock]

Oh are you just doing a regular run with Instant Death on all the time

omg sameeee

[trail yew]

yes

every worm boss is miserable for me lol

[smoky dock]

samesiesssss <3

[trail yew]

I have literally failed every single worm bosws

[smoky dock]

have you considered true melee <3

[trail yew]

on the class that shreds worms

[smoky dock]

I had to redo Desert Scourge like, four times because I beat it too fast

[trail yew]

me too

that took me from 60 attempts to 443.

I had to use 1/3 summons.

[fading dove]

iirc the only completely unremovable upgrade that isnt regen is aegis fruit and it doesn't matter for nohits because

defence

[smoky dock]

reforge to Broken

[trail yew]

pills.

[smoky dock]

arcane crystal?

[trail yew]

eat the pills.

[smoky dock]

oh yeah rippers

[fading dove]

hey at least desert scourge dies a little slower than trojan squirrel

aren't rippers banned in most nohits

or just like

[smoky dock]

No

[fading dove]

can be considered skipping

[smoky dock]

Rippers are 100% okay

[trail yew]

I might have to go buy 1000 treasurebags from my amazing QoL npc until I get them.

[smoky dock]

Using them is just uncommon because it’s too easy to accidentally skipp something using rippers

[fading dove]

the rev accessories shimmer into each other

[trail yew]

that would require me finding the shimmer.. thats alot more work...

[smoky dock]

oh qol

[fading dove]

not with this handy guide

[smoky dock]

nvm based privileges revoked

[trail yew]

what the flip man

what the flip.

[smoky dock]

sorry i dont make the rules

[trail yew]

I dont understand scab ripper tbh

sometimes they kill the enemies, sometimes they stand around and do nothing

and yes I have it targetted

[smoky dock]

a few minions are like that

[trail yew]

should I fill my arena with walls

theyre like little spider guys

[smoky dock]

I never used summoner so idk how scab rippers specifically work

[trail yew]

they might function better with it

[smoky dock]

First test it with target dummies or something underground or in your home

[trail yew]

you must use summoner.

[smoky dock]

why’d that

[trail yew]

the power of summoner compels you.

[carmine ferry]

is my sun/moon just perma a void with wotg post moon lord?

[smoky dock]

yeah well I have the power of a Picksaw and anger issues

[trail yew]

after 6 hours fighting perforator should I give up

[smoky dock]

Take a break and come back later

[trail yew]

if I take a break I will never come back.

ever.

that will be the end of my infernum journey.

[smoky dock]

Are you doing a nohit journey to get into the lounge or smthin’

[trail yew]

not explicitly no

[tardy cedar]

are you redoing argus

[smoky dock]

why the fuck would I redo argus

[trail yew]

I'm doing it by their rules but its not really my main goal.

[smoky dock]

no I’m not redoing argus

I got twelve thousand goddamn Buggies for Argus

[tardy cedar]

why are you still using picksaw are you using it till guards

[smoky dock]

And I’m not gonna get a single buggy more

[carmine ferry]

not a fan of the fact my world almost always looks dark now 😕

[smoky dock]

no I’m gonna upgrade

moon lord either gets Gravedigger’s Shovel or True Biome Blade

[tardy cedar]

finna gonna upgrade to solar pick post ml

[smoky dock]

I doubt True Biome Blade can perform better than The Shovel

[trail yew]

just kill me

[tardy cedar]

what is the shovel

[tardy cedar]

take a break

100%

[smoky dock]

Gravedigger’s Shovel

[trail yew]

No.

[smoky dock]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Gravedigger's_Shovel

[trail yew]

if I didn't take a break in 400 attempts of scourge I'm not taking a break in this useless boss

[tardy cedar]

brute forcing won't really get you anywhere tho

[trail yew]

It has before.

[tardy cedar]

interesting

[smoky dock]

Fighting while mentally exhausted means you will not learn anything new as you fight

[tardy cedar]

✅✅✅

[fading dove]

taking a break will improve your performance drastically when you return

for example

[tardy cedar]

lowk you're just not in that glow state when you brute force

[fading dove]

i was struggling to nohit dog

took a week break

[tardy cedar]

I've nohit MANY bosses after sleeping

[smoky dock]

like when I was doing Queen Bee

[fading dove]

beat him first try

[smoky dock]

150 attempts, ended for the night

[trail yew]

I'm also playing in a 57w x 87h box because I hate this boss

[smoky dock]

Came back tomorrow morning violently ill and beat her first try

[trail yew]

Funny of you to assume I ever am in taht state

[smoky dock]

omg saaaame!!!!!

are you also a lihzahrd

do you also fight in the underground jungle

[tardy cedar]

[trail yew]

I hate the jungle...

[smoky dock]

WHAT

[trail yew]

have you ever gone to the jungle

on 1hp?

[smoky dock]

brother

my good man

my delightful poor sweet summer child

[carmine ferry]

@smoky dock if i cheat in the eclipse toggler item will it mess up wotg progression or not? i really hate the sun being blotted out and the constant wind noise instead of music

[nimble oracle]

no no they're right the jungle sucks ass

[smoky dock]

I don’t know, I don’t know much of anything about WotG

I’ve done an entire run up to moon lord on Instant Death

[fading dove]

old maso jungle with instakill parrots that fly through walls 🥰

or instakill man eaters

[tardy cedar]

I actually hated that so much

[trail yew]

vines are my worst enemy

[carmine ferry]

all good just thought you might cause of the reaction on my first message. sorry for the ping

[fading dove]

you got to choose between parrots and man eaters

[tardy cedar]

the times of start mining for spores and they came out of nowhere

[smoky dock]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLS7BsbUnSJuRUYWKyhypAASZdQRNvrUoi

[nimble oracle]

do maso parrots still instakill you if your character is female

[fading dove]

nah

got removed

[nimble oracle]

damn.

[smoky dock]

You can see the world change as each video passes

[nimble oracle]

the trans affirming misogynist parrot is dead......

[fading dove]

the trans affirming misogynist parrot has been pushed to ftw </3

[smoky dock]

Like KS being mid-Purification

[nimble oracle]

ok nvm i can live with that

the trans affirming misogynist parrot lives on

[trail yew]

misery

[smoky dock]

euphoria

once you beat skeletron it becomes MUCH easier

wait you’re doing 1 HP

Not Instant Death

Just use Brain of Confusion

[trail yew]

can't

against the rules

[tardy cedar]

they probably meant while you're not in a boss fight

[fading dove]

since youre doing 1hp are you gonna be able to get goblin

[trail yew]

whats that

[fading dove]

oh yeah the princess isnt available either because no nurse

[smoky dock]

yeah don’t do 1 HP it’s either unnecessarily difficult or dramatically easier

no blorbs because no bloon

[trail yew]

no blorbs because no bloon?

what does this mean

[smoky dock]

Yeah you can’t get blorbs

[trail yew]

what are blorbs

[nimble oracle]

blood orbs and blood moons

[smoky dock]

To trigger a bloon you need 200 HP

[tardy cedar]

blood orbs

[trail yew]

oh

[trail yew]

nah nah nah I can

[smoky dock]

yeah, blorbs

[trail yew]

I can use heart crystals

they just dont do anything

[smoky dock]

:/

so is it 1 HP????

[smoky dock]

or like

Ah

[trail yew]

yardis mod

[fading dove]

oh righ that thing

[smoky dock]

Sounds complicated, why not just use Instant Death?

[trail yew]

I am using both

[smoky dock]

???

Why?

[trail yew]

because I like seeing 1 heart container

it looks fun idk

[fading dove]

that removes the unique challenge of 1hp

[smoky dock]

But then you can’t use Toxic Heart strats

[lofty mist]

Where do I find class setups on there?

I can’t seem to find it

[trail yew]

I see.

[tardy cedar]

what's the toxic heart strat

[fading dove]

there arent any

[trail yew]

it's just no-hit instant death but with 1 heart container instead of 20

[fading dove]

mianly because its vanilla weapons

[tardy cedar]

prikki are you the only one using these

[smoky dock]

yes

[trail yew]

I'm not REALLY playing 1hp 1hp I'm playing instant-death

[fading dove]

sometimes souls weapons if youre feeling spicy

[lofty mist]

Nvm I found it

[night galleon]

not class setups

bc i dont think they have one

[smoky dock]

bweh

anyways uhhhh if you’re hcing a hard time i guess you can ask me

I already did all that kinda studf

[fading dove]

what do you mean you found it

[night galleon]

check the guides page

[smoky dock]

Once you beat Skeletron you unlock WIRING which solves all your problems

[night galleon]

https://fargosmods.wiki.gg/wiki/Guides

[smoky dock]

Game becomes much easier once you’re wired up

[trail yew]

r u talking to me

[smoky dock]

Yeah

[trail yew]

what are you doing with wires

💀

[smoky dock]

I played the entire game with instant death on

[night galleon]

the first 2 guides are the most useful ones

[spice pike]

Games becomes more fun geeked.

[smoky dock]

Disabling all enemy spawns permanently

Using a machine known as a “Mob switch”

[trail yew]

sigh..

[night galleon]

even tho the second one is hurriedly put together, its still pretty great

[fading dove]

ench availability is useless imo

[trail yew]

my mob switch.

[smoky dock]

But that’s an external mod

[fading dove]

because all enchs are available when their armour is with a single exception

ancient shadow

[smoky dock]

Why use that when I can do that with Terraria

[fading dove]

thats it

[night galleon]

yeah but i like it when its neatly organized

so ill like

remember

[smoky dock]

I also used the wires to automate the growth and capture of NPCs to turn them into meat products

[trail yew]

meat products.

[smoky dock]

I have over a stack of BBQ Ribs

[trail yew]

you are a psychopath.

[smoky dock]

I have enough Flesh to make more than 10,000

[fading dove]

ive gotta have ribs again

its been so long

[smoky dock]

my guy, like

[trail yew]

playing this challenge without QoL mods is just complete socio

I can't even play the game normally without qol

[night galleon]

since i last have seen my son

lost to this monster

the man behind the slaughter

[smoky dock]

ten minutes ago i sent a video of me beating a post-cultist boss to death with the picksaw, cobalt sword, Buggies, and The Camper and you’re only now noticing i’m a psychopath?

[tardy cedar]

ml when 😢

[trail yew]

my brain is not functioning at any capacity rn

\

[smoky dock]

when i get home

I’ll do geldon first but it’ll probably be cane

[fading dove]

and thats why you should take a break

[smoky dock]

It’ll not be a nohit, it’ll be Flawless

[tardy cedar]

[smoky dock]

And since it’s Flawless I’ll just use VK and warding fat strats

[fading dove]

that typo gave me an idea

[smoky dock]

Reaver helm nohit meta

[night galleon]

what is said idea?

[tardy cedar]

static hook nohit meta 🤑🤑

[smoky dock]

oh god it’s peam… it’s genois…

[fading dove]

slick cane for geldon

[trail yew]

yeah I'm uninstalling

[smoky dock]

reaver helm nohit

[tardy cedar]

did perferators kidnap your family

[night galleon]

all shackle build nohit 🔥 🔥

[trail yew]

worse

[night galleon]

so the hive mind?

[trail yew]

I think perforator might be the most unfun thing I've ever played. and I've played league of legends.

[smoky dock]

sure i can do that

that sounds incredibly funny

[tardy cedar]

valid tho perferators was a huge spike in attempt counts for my snack nohits

[night galleon]

someone give shackle like the shortsword attack animation and 1 attack

[trail yew]

I will never play crimson agian.

hive mind is but a speck compared to this boss

same for brain vs EoW

corruption is objectively subjectively 10x easier in infernum

[tardy cedar]

eow is fun with no accessories

[smoky dock]

eow true melee…

[tardy cedar]

❌

[night galleon]

the only thing reason i play crimson is bc i hate corruption holes

[smoky dock]

if saharas get fixed it’ll genuinely just be unplayable

[night galleon]

not bc i fall into them but they look ugly

and i like ichor more

[smoky dock]

honestly true

[night galleon]

even tho i can easily change cursed flame into ichor

[trail yew]

ok I got off and uninstalled tmodloader. It's over. I made it through every boss including hive mind up until perforator

[tardy cedar]

I like corruption because it's purple

[night galleon]

good argument

and the music is much better

hmmm

[trail yew]

very good point

[carmine ferry]

what yall think i should do with these slots? more damage or some defense/survive

[trail yew]

and crimson is gross

[smoky dock]

i like corruption because it’s what i gor the first time

[trail yew]

its fleshy and weird

[fading dove]

absorber 🤤

[night galleon]

shackle

[tardy cedar]

the corruption music actually got me grooving bro

[night galleon]

and royal gel

[trail yew]

more summons.

[smoky dock]

More defensive items. Absorber and ampoule are huge. Optionally Deific amulet and amalgamated brain. Also blood pact to trash slot

[night galleon]

SHACKLE

DONT IGNORE ME

SHACKLE

[tardy cedar]

Ambrosia ampoule and cherished sealocket imo

[night galleon]

ok blood pact isn’t that good but u need it for chalice later on

[carmine ferry]

no more blood pact?

[smoky dock]

Blood pact is a bannable offense

[night galleon]

so put it in magic storage

[tardy cedar]

put it in storage you'll probably end up upgrading late game

[trail yew]

Have you ever played the game normally

[smoky dock]

Yeah put it in storage

[carmine ferry]

aight

[smoky dock]

define normally

[trail yew]

not no-hit or some other challenge

[smoky dock]

(the answer is probably no)

[night galleon]

there isnt a normal for a single player experience

so lets change the question

have you ever played the game in an enjoyable manner?

[smoky dock]

Oh yeah I’ve done that a few times I played true melee four or five times

[trail yew]

Not once.

[trail yew]

What is it like not being killed in 1 hit

is it nice

[tardy cedar]

why play then lol

[night galleon]

it must feel horrible

[smoky dock]

Euphoric. My damage output is through the roof.

Sub-40 guards

[night galleon]

the damage you take isnt the bad part

its the shame of being hit

[smoky dock]

🙏

[night galleon]

and surviving to see the next day

[smoky dock]

HP is a resource to be spent

[trail yew]

Never that. Never on summoner.

[smoky dock]

The only hitpoint that matters is the last one

[night galleon]

you may have bested the devourer, but its filthy saliva still made contact with your graceful soul

[trail yew]

lowkey DoG is overrated in difficulty

[smoky dock]

Also summoner is like

Fat

There is no difference between classes

[trail yew]

I have seen DoG been fought in infernum, and fought it in master death mode and it is so easy compared to so many other bosses

[smoky dock]

Fearmonger <3

[trail yew]

pov mage.

[carmine ferry]

is there a better damage/minion item than papyrus scarab if im adding those and taking out blood pact cause ill have one extra slot

[smoky dock]

https://youtu.be/0UAY_duVm00

[smoky dock]

No, offensively nothing beats papyrus scarab

[trail yew]

funny iframes device

[smoky dock]

imo it’s a bit unnecessary since your damage output is superlative with just Star-Tainted Generator and Statis’ Curse

[tardy cedar]

can you use shrooms 😢

[smoky dock]

what are shrooms

[trail yew]

shrooms

[tardy cedar]

odd mushroom 🤤

[smoky dock]

i have never heard of this

[night rapids]

Easy

[carmine ferry]

also is blood pact actually just bad post moon lord so i know for future runs

[smoky dock]

is this a mod

[smoky dock]

blood pact is just bad

[tardy cedar]

do you not know what shrooms are

[trail yew]

Obama Gaming on youtube.

[tardy cedar]

50% damage increase

[carmine ferry]

oh lmao just in general thanks

[smoky dock]

Max HP is the LEAST useful defensive stat imo

And +25% healing on potions doesn’t mean much when you get a potion every 60s

It has a niche for a silly potionmaxxing build with Grand Gelatin/Absorber and Charm of Myffs but it’s far from the best build out there

[carmine ferry]

yeah i lowkey thought that was nice but now that i think about it like that it seems trash

[night rapids]

I'm just weird and like number go up

[smoky dock]

which is fine

i’m not a cop

use whatever you feel like

[trail yew]

I am a cop. NEVER use that item 😡

[smoky dock]

oh ok

[night rapids]

At least you don't get critically hit for 2,000 damage

from a blue slime

[trail yew]

just kidding now I'm just a felon for impersonating an officer of the law

[smoky dock]

true 😔

[night rapids]

what the fuck even was the critical damage formula

like it felt like it just arbitrarily added more damage

[carmine ferry]

thx for this and all the other info btw

[night galleon]

acab then

[trail yew]

Lihzahrd man how many hours have you put into terraria

[smoky dock]

Anytime

[smoky dock]

a quick guess would be… 2,300?

[trail yew]

Scheisse

[night rapids]

I have like

[night galleon]

i got 1500

[night rapids]

3,500 hours

[night galleon]

and im not even good

[trail yew]

Chat I'm at like 300.

[smoky dock]

2,500

[tardy cedar]

I was expecting 3000 icl

[trail yew]

Its over.

[smoky dock]

no i just learn quickly

i decided to make my first experience less of a difficulty curve and more of a difficulty wall

and the rest is history

[trail yew]

Wait me too

Are we twinning

[smoky dock]

legendary infernum…

[carmine ferry]

btw it didnt seem to mess anything up using the wotg eclipse disabler but ill have to see down the road. seems like i can just turn it back on and itll be fine tho

[smoky dock]

(dont do that)

[trail yew]

okay well not quite the same but

[night galleon]

itll be fine

[trail yew]

This no hit run is my first infernum run

[smoky dock]

(legendary infernum is miserable for no reason)

[night galleon]

maybe just turn it back on right before you know who

[smoky dock]

oh dear

[night galleon]

for the immeeeerrrrssssiiioooooonnnn

[trail yew]

[trail yew]

Ive seen this. This looks miserable.

[smoky dock]

legendary infernum doesn’t even exist

it’s just infernum again

except yharon has like, 1,200 contact damage

[trail yew]

Legendary masochist mode perhaps is what I may be thinking about

[tardy cedar]

It's just stat bloat and stupid bugs like unpoppable duke fishron bubbles

[trail yew]

Which is a different mod entirely

[tardy cedar]

💀

[smoky dock]

no the unpoppable bubbles aren’t a bug

they’re standard master mode behavior

[fading dove]

masoleg 🤤

[smoky dock]

fishron’s bubbles are unpoppable on master mode

[tardy cedar]

oh wait really I never knew

[tardy cedar]

u sure

[carmine ferry]

that sounds awful bruh im on regular infernum and took 30+ deaths to my last two bosses ive fought 😭

[tardy cedar]

me when vanilla probe ai for destroyer

[smoky dock]

30 for two bosses combined is pretty good

[carmine ferry]

not combined lol

[smoky dock]

Still

[trail yew]

I probably have more attempts on a single boss than your entire like prehardmode or hardmode boss list

Lock in!

Gotta put in the hours!

[night galleon]

satanist malice master ballkicker mode when

[smoky dock]

i wonder what slime god will do to you

[night galleon]

slime god aint allat bad

[trail yew]

Slime god will be very nice to me.

[carmine ferry]

moon lord was easier but less fair than astrageldon to me

[night galleon]

maybe the core could fuck u up

[fading dove]

the addition of malice makes this significantly easier and master satanist doesn;t exist

[smoky dock]

lynel true melee noshit slime god in twelve attempts

it took me almost one hundred times more

[trail yew]

wait but im never getting to slime god because I uninstalled

[smoky dock]

lol

[trail yew]

Also when you say 100 times more

[night rapids]

I saw someone play that mode

[trail yew]

Do you mean 1200

[carmine ferry]

true

[night galleon]

yeah its so hard that it can only be imagined

[smoky dock]

uhhhhh

[night galleon]

scary right

[fading dove]

sata forces legendary gfb 🤤

[smoky dock]

okay no not 1,200

it took me 1,018 iirc

[trail yew]

Amazing

[night rapids]

What is this abomination of game design

[night galleon]

heaven

[tardy cedar]

can you disable gfb in config

[trail yew]

Why is slime god difficult what did he do to you

[tardy cedar]

I forgot

[fading dove]

yeah

[smoky dock]

I have no fucking idea what the hell made slime god so hard to me

It isn’t rocket science

[fading dove]

but you're meant to play uhc with gfb on

[carmine ferry]

is infernum dog as rough as ppl say?

[fading dove]

depends

[tardy cedar]

icic alr

[trail yew]

I think not

[night galleon]

maybe you yourself are a slime and hes fucking up ur inputs via mind control

[fading dove]

if youre good with keeping up a rhythm then he's fine

[night galleon]

yeah

[smoky dock]

For the first time you play, yeah inf DoG is really tough. But once you get into the swing o’ things it gets much easier. Future runs have him much easier

[tardy cedar]

I wouldn't say so people tend to exaggerate it as the hardest thing modded has to offer

[night galleon]

quick tip tho, dont ever JUST dash

[fading dove]

he definitely suffers the most from first clear attempt bloat imo

[tardy cedar]

✅

[night galleon]

you gotta also move a bit away from him as ur keeping ur rhythm or ur iframes will run out while ur inside its body segments

[fading dove]

once youve killed him and gotten the muscle memory he should go down in 20 attempts or less after

[trail yew]

Coil him!

[fading dove]

but that first clear can hit 500+

[night galleon]

ngl

[smoky dock]

my first DoG win took me like, three times as many attempts as Supreme Calamitas

[night galleon]

until i fought infernum dog

[trail yew]

For no hit?

[night galleon]

i never used any ram dash

[smoky dock]

Now I beat him using fuckin toxic heart and picksaw

[night galleon]

just the evasion scarf 😭

[fading dove]

just normal playing

[carmine ferry]

😭

[trail yew]

gg.

[tardy cedar]

for nohit you're probably gonna get lower tbh

[fading dove]

you usually see 100 to 300 though

[smoky dock]

if you’re nohitting DoG you probably know what you’re doing so you’re probably gonna do it faster

[tardy cedar]

it's literally a 2 hit boss from regular standards nohitting changes like barely anything

[smoky dock]

2 hit boss?

[trail yew]

Thats what I wanted you to think.

[fading dove]

death fire would like a word

[tardy cedar]

with mostly builds I've seen 2-3 hits yeah unless they run sealocket

[night galleon]

yeah thats why a glass cannon build with like one movement accessory besides the elysian shield is really good for dog

[carmine ferry]

so on summoner am i gonna wanna just go full damage modifiers cause hes already gonna nuke me?

[smoky dock]

i got hit like

a zillion tomes

so many times

[tardy cedar]

still free tbh

[night galleon]

pretty much

[trail yew]

summoner life

[smoky dock]

i need to count but it’s probably 25 times

[fading dove]

summoner's got the most choices for armour on dog of any class

at 2

[smoky dock]

👍

[fading dove]

stardust and bloodflare

[night galleon]

what abt omega blue

isnt that all class

ive never used it but ive heard its decent

[fading dove]

not enough slots to justify usually

[carmine ferry]

is stardust really relevant for that long?

[smoky dock]

omega blue doesn’t work well on summoner since the damage% it grants is too low and it doesn’t grant enough slots to justify it

[fading dove]

stardust has batshit insane damage and minion slots

[smoky dock]

Yes, it has the best offensive stats

[night galleon]

yeah the lunar sets are surprisingly good

[trail yew]

[carmine ferry]

💯