calamity-addon-talk

[fringe ether]

i only last 9 seconds 🔥

melee

[wicked creek]

Ram dash when he tries eating you

[silver loom]

nohit 1st phase and charge addren

[fringe ether]

I AM

[silver loom]

than skip 2nd phase entirely

chat im in desp phase

on cultist

[wicked creek]

Ok, there's a safe spot for that every time

[silver loom]

ok that shit was easy

[wicked creek]

Bottom right corner iirc

[silver loom]

lolll cultist post mechs

[wicked creek]

Or well, around that area

[silver loom]

vortex beater will BEAT the shit out of them

hopefully yall get this shitass joke

also cultist is lowk one of the easiest boss

3 attempts

all it took lol

[fresh magnet]

is there anything left to do after nameless deity and boss rush

[silver loom]

dev wishes

and deaht wishes

personnaly for me they were fun

[terse seal]

How many on golem?

[wicked creek]

They skipped from mechs to golem

Sorry meant cultist

Not golem

[terse seal]

Damn

Golem is annoying as shit

That's why I'm askig

[silver loom]

yeah golem is straight up sans

[terse seal]

He literally takes the floor away

[silver loom]

yeah

[wicked creek]

He makes platforms

[terse seal]

So annoying

[silver loom]

bro hm will be so easy now loll

[terse seal]

Yea I can't catch those I usually just hook to a wall

[wicked creek]

Also works

Regardless, I've been away from my laptop all day, when I finally get home I'll probably make houses for the npcs I haven't housed yet, then I'll go do leviathan

[terse seal]

Is there any non consumable summon for golem?

[terse seal]

What class

Also infernum right?

[leaden fractal]

whips

[wicked creek]

Melee

[leaden fractal]

i dont think i have any other whips

[wicked creek]

Yes

[leaden fractal]

that i can get

i have actual summons

[wicked creek]

Because tag damage

[silver loom]

cultist was lowk easier than skeletron

[fresh magnet]

base calamity has no whips as far as i know. catalyst does

[silver loom]

way easier

[wicked creek]

Yeah I don't doubt it

So far (I'm post plant) skeletron has by far been the hardest boss

[terse seal]

Yea you're right I thought there were more whips

[wicked creek]

Infernum adds one

[fresh magnet]

are they going to add whips to calamity in the next update?

[terse seal]

Which one

[wicked creek]

Still pre moonlord

[fresh magnet]

i hope they do

[wicked creek]

Perditus

[terse seal]

Hope they do

[wicked creek]

Drop from argus

[wicked creek]

They're gonna wait for 1.4.5 first

[fresh magnet]

makes sense

[wicked creek]

Don't want to accidentally double up with the vanilla whips

[fresh magnet]

when is that coming out even

[wicked creek]

Nobody knows

[fresh magnet]

it's probably pretty close, since it's been quite a while now

[terse seal]

Yea true

Is there any whip expansion mod like the ranger one?

[silver loom]

yeah

[fresh magnet]

unofficial calamity whips

or you can use catalyst

[terse seal]

Is it good or trash?

[silver loom]

both

[terse seal]

My laptop will implode if I do

[silver loom]

cuz sometimes the whips are very good

[terse seal]

Soooo

[fresh magnet]

it's kind of hard to actually find how to get or make the whips though

because not all of them have whip in their name

[terse seal]

Do I download it?

[terse seal]

Generaly most whips don't have whip in their name

[wicked creek]

Unbalanced

[terse seal]

Also is it a problem if I download it post world gen

[terse seal]

Wdym

[wicked creek]

There's some absurdly powerful ones

And summoner is the last class that needs absurdly powerful stuff

[terse seal]

Are they pre scal or smt

[wicked creek]

Yes

There's a few pre scal whips in catalyst/unofficial calamity whips

[terse seal]

True but it's boring af to stay with the same whip from pre cultist all the way to end game

Also I can't install catalyst I heard it add world gen too

So I cant

[fresh magnet]

i somehow managed to get 300 defense pre-scal

as a summoner

[terse seal]

Crazy

[silver loom]

wtf

[wicked creek]

Fearmonger?

[terse seal]

So do I download it?

Or nah

[smoky dock]

Doesn't sound unusual

[silver loom]

fearmonger is litteraly post dog

[fresh magnet]

auric tesla+ armor

[wicked creek]

The fuck Is auric tesla+

[fresh magnet]

oh a mod that adds astrelgeldon

[silver loom]

OHHH ITS PRE SCAL

I THOUGHT IT WAS PRE SKELTETRON

[terse seal]

💀

Scaletron goes crazy

[wicked creek]

Skeletetron

[terse seal]

So tell me

Do I download the whips

Or nah

[fresh magnet]

yeah

[wicked creek]

Do you want balance

Like, how many times have you played infernum now

[terse seal]

Idgaf about balance lowky

[fresh magnet]

if you want more options for whips after moonlord, download it

[terse seal]

First time rn

Lol

Ive done maso death before tho

[wicked creek]

Personally I'd recommend not doing it rn, but like, on a following run or something

[terse seal]

I finished it

[terse seal]

Yea but it's boring

Same whip

For like 10+ bosses

[wicked creek]

You can use tools if you want to

Respiteblock, butcher's chainsaw, photon ripper, grax, etc

And fearmonger can let you use other weapons altogether

[terse seal]

Wdym

[wicked creek]

Anything that counts as a tool doesn't proc the summoner penalty

So like, chainsaw-like weapons can be used

They're probably not gonna be as strong as whips

[terse seal]

Bruh

[wicked creek]

But if you want unique studf

[terse seal]

I just want new cool whips

[wicked creek]

(for your minions I mean, tag damage is insane)

[terse seal]

I already have my 1900s cosplay

[grim swallow]

catalyst doesnt add that much wordlged

[terse seal]

I just wanna change whips

[grim swallow]

astral becomes bigger thats it

[terse seal]

Anyway I won't be able to handle it

[grim swallow]

but the whips from it are somewhat balanced

[terse seal]

My laptop will implode

[grim swallow]

is it that laggy?

you dont have to fight geldon

[terse seal]

Im standing still in infernum and I have 15 fps

[wicked creek]

Well in the end, it's your choice

I'd just recommend not using it for your first playthrough because I imagine you downloaded infernum for the boss design and/or challenge, which the whip mod would probably go ahead and mess up

[fresh magnet]

tbh the game also lagged for me a LOT but i know my pc can handle it

[wicked creek]

How are you playing

[terse seal]

Ive had worse

So I can

[wicked creek]

15 fps

[fresh magnet]

sometimes when the framerate drops, the game becomes easier, since everything is slower

[terse seal]

https://medal.tv/games/terraria/clips/kGvuacwey-Q24mblx/spok?invite=cr-MSxWSzIsNDIwMDM5OTA2LA

[wicked creek]

15 fps standing still sounds like hell NGL

I've had my spots of lag too but not that bad

[terse seal]

It doesnt

It just becomes a power point

[wicked creek]

What the fuck

[terse seal]

This is an attempt I had on storm weaver

I killed him 17 attempts later

[wicked creek]

I thought my laptop was shit and was worried about post ML infernum because I hear it's laggier than the stuff beforehand

But holy shit

[terse seal]

It indeed is

[fresh magnet]

oh nvm i don't have THIS

[terse seal]

I can say from experience post ml is laggy

[fresh magnet]

for me the game just slows down

it doesn't become choppy

[terse seal]

Turn frame skip on

And it'll fix that

[wicked creek]

I think I'd rather it slow down than being a PowerPoint presentation

[terse seal]

Wait

Since you said that

Look at polter ghast

[leaden fractal]

best summon for DoG?

[terse seal]

https://medal.tv/games/terraria/clips/kGyhGdM0gRtTS70f9/spok?invite=cr-MSxnWEosNDIwMDM5OTA2LA

[leaden fractal]

im on infernum

[terse seal]

https://medal.tv/games/terraria/clips/kGMLsCcG4toGVknzI/spok?invite=cr-MSx4bVUsNDIwMDM5OTA2LA

@wicked creek

[fresh magnet]

all of the buffs in the world

[terse seal]

Lol

I do like to have my buffs

[fresh magnet]

i just have alchemist npc downloaded so i can buy combined potions

way easier than holding onto 40 potions

[terse seal]

I too have alch npc to fill up my screens with buffs

[terse seal]

I have em in my piggy bank

[terse seal]

Also look at my fps in the 2nd clip

[fresh magnet]

i would put em in a safe

[wicked creek]

Lag so bad the colossal squid followed you home

[terse seal]

Exactly

That's the whole reason I clipped it

The squid had magic mirror too

So do you see the reason I won't download catalyst now?

[jade ocean]

How do I make Moon Lord's projectiles easier to see?
My entropic claymore's projectlies blend in a lot so it makes dodging a lot harder

[terse seal]

Dangersense pot

[fresh magnet]

this is how i experience lag usually

[terse seal]

That due to framskip

Turn it on

[wicked creek]

I think the slowdown is better than PowerPoint presentation where it skips parts NGL

[terse seal]

No

Cause the slowmotion makes you deaf

You literally go deaf

Well

[real nymph]

how can you tell which way signus goes when he does the shadow slash blue and purple thing

[cedar ridge]

just make the game 2x speed

[jade ocean]

Didn't change anything
Anything else?

[terse seal]

Do you have alch npc?

[jade ocean]

Ye

Also what's that mod that puts buffs on top of your character and how do I disable ot

[terse seal]

Idk

But

Use potion of omniscience

[jade ocean]

It made projectiles darker and harder to see

[gusty crystal]

Anyone wanna join my wrath of the gods playthrough I just started

[terse seal]

#multiplayer-looking-to-play

Fuck out here

Go there

[gusty crystal]

Dead channel

[terse seal]

Also

Wotg is wayyy to buggy in multiplayer

[terse seal]

Idgaf

Fuck off

Go there

[gusty crystal]

What’s ur problem

[jade ocean]

Crashout 😭

[terse seal]

🤷 Just fuck off go there

[gusty crystal]

@urban ibex

[urban ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/full-metal-jacket-who-pinged-me-gunnery-sergeant-hartman-chat-ping-pong-gif-11748348

ah

@terse seal yea, please don't be aggressive thank you

[urban ibex]

regardless of it being dead, its still the correct spot to ask

not other channels

[terse seal]

ok

Just venting on randoms cause why not

[urban ibex]

cause theres no reason to?

[terse seal]

I found a slight reason that he was in the wrong channel and decided fuck it

🤷

[urban ibex]

regardless, don't do it because it could escalate if its repeated behavior

[terse seal]

Well ok

[loud musk]

any tips for infernum moonlord's phantasmal deathray

[gusty crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/good-boy-gif-17851117609613957307

[terse seal]

That kinda rage bait don't work on me

Try again

[terse seal]

Use rod of discord

[gusty crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/alpha-gif-17882209849537708463

[gusty crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/giga-gigacat-cat-mewing-mogging-gif-12429734670640119345

[mortal patio]

he doesnt have one?

you meant the section one which rotates?

[gloomy wedge]

Which one

[mortal patio]

just try to be sideways from him, not up and down. and move far away. Sideways gives you more space to dodge and back up

if its the initial barrage one, just move slowly vertically/diagonally as soon as he fires. I preferred using a slowfall pot, as it makes it easier to maneuver

[loud musk]

yeah the rotating one

[hardy dirge]

calamitas and solyn doomed yuri

[nimble wing]

It’s “doomed” because I’d give it a death sentence if I could

[viscid canopy]

calamitas is aroace

[flint wagon]

Any tips on killing Skeletron in Calamity Infernum with the "for the worthy" seed?

[marble steeple]

Got to the end of it and it definitely doesnt work in multiplayer

Infernum works for the most part, but wotg mp doesnt pretty much at all

[nimble wing]

Wrath of the Gods absolutely does not work in multiplayer whatsoever and we might not bother to fix that in 1

We should be testing multiplayer thoroughly for 2 though

[jade ocean]

Yass ez moon lord

dut

Thanks to all that helped

[obsidian vine]

fearmonger or silva armor for infernum summoner?

[nimble wing]

Fearmonger is very bulky, Silva is generalist

[wild tusk]

I think dodging it works

[obsidian vine]

should i replace anything with anything else

[obsidian vine]

also thank you

[wild tusk]

Nah but fr ml doesnt really have a deathray in infernum afaik

[nimble wing]

He has it in the form of what I like to call an unplugged blender

The spoke of rotating telegraphs that stop when they fire

[vapid pendant]

Swap phantomic with the sponge, otherwise its good imo

[grim swallow]

what do we think of this (the top didnt fit into the screenshot)

[obsidian vine]

alr thanks

[grim swallow]

here is the top by itself

[obsidian vine]

as for weapons is this good? using 5 on mirror, 3 on worm, and rest on raven

total of 11 slots atm

[grim swallow]

whip speed aint that useful tbh

morning star would be better than dark harvest

and are you going dps or survival

[obsidian vine]

im ngl the whips are there to be there but i am not whip stacking under pressure

[obsidian vine]

idk currently what i have goin

[grim swallow]

seems like a lean to survival

seems good overall

[echo sleet]

chalice of the blood god makes your health burn

if you didn't know

when you get hit

[obsidian vine]

ye i read

but it doesn't interupt life regen no

[echo sleet]

idk

but i doubt you can outregen its damage

[obsidian vine]

its the same dmg being dealt

also healing potion can take 50% of it off before just healing me with the rest

i don't see too much of a negative, and i guess if it seems like its hurting me then i'll replace it

[echo sleet]

me personally, not a fan of it

[obsidian vine]

thats fair

idk what else to place

[echo sleet]

equipped it once and never again

cause it just burned my health on yharon

[obsidian vine]

i like the 25% reduced cd of healing

[echo sleet]

the bleeding stacked and i died

[echo sleet]

draedons heart:

but i see you got omega blue armor

so you're not at that stage yet

[winged field]

how tot spawn reaper shark? ive been sitting here for 20 minutes no roar or anything

[echo sleet]

abyss shark?

[winged field]

reaper shark yeah

[echo sleet]

he spawns in the last layer

4th one

[winged field]

its not spawning tho

im here for like 20 minutes

[echo sleet]

zen potions?

calming potions?

[gloomy wedge]

This build seems pretty great

I wouldn’t really adjust anything here

Chalice is an INSANE accessory btw, be sure to use it

[echo sleet]

if you don't get hit every 2 seconds then yeah

and if you're not fighting inf scal

[gloomy wedge]

Chalice was my main carry against inf scal

[echo sleet]

there was no other way for me to beat scal than outheal her damage

[winged field]

yeah i got it

even battle cry

[echo sleet]

don't use zen potions bro

they reduce the spawnrates

[winged field]

not that

i got all the increase spawn rates

[echo sleet]

anything that reduces detection rate of abyss monsters?

[winged field]

how do i know that

[obsidian vine]

im using fearmonger im post dog

[echo sleet]

there is something that does that

let me see

[winged field]

abyyy suit

i just read

myaybe that

[dense eagle]

dodge?

[echo sleet]

i mean it does do that

but it shouldn't affect the abyss that much

[echo sleet]

there's no dodging a boss thats just shitting bullets out her bum

[dense eagle]

its literally patterns

[echo sleet]

like mutant is spammy but still has some kind of patterns

[dense eagle]

just experiment where to stand

[echo sleet]

scal just shits out bombs

[dense eagle]

how to move

and do the same

[dense eagle]

they fly the same way

[echo sleet]

do you have anechoic coating?

[dense eagle]

and they dont do dmg

till

they explode

[echo sleet]

yeah home into me and explode in front of my face

[dense eagle]

nothing homes??

[winged field]

whats tjat

[dense eagle]

you mean desperetion phase?

[echo sleet]

i mean in general

she just spams these fucking big fireballs no matter what

[dense eagle]

the big bombs with the circle outline dont home

[echo sleet]

every phase

every attack

[dense eagle]

they are the easiest to dodge

[echo sleet]

well then i had some bootleg infernum mod

[dense eagle]

just fly into it

[echo sleet]

idfk

i had this argument earlier

and i won't repeat it

[dense eagle]

maybe you stand in the way

everytime

and it looks like it home

[echo sleet]

or maybe i've already beaten the boss and i'm never doing infernum ever again

why are you even tryna argue

rage bait much?

[dense eagle]

???

[echo sleet]

a potion

spawning abyss mobs isn't that hard

idk why it doesn't spawn

[dense eagle]

im just saying that tanking everything and saying that there is random shit everywhere is just wrong in general

[echo sleet]

👍

cool

[dense eagle]

infernum isnt for you then ok dont play it again but i just dont like when someone says smth illogical

nothing against you

[echo sleet]

.

[winged field]

its multiplayer

is it coz of that

[echo sleet]

shouldn't be an issue

unless its infernum multiplayer

then it can be an issue

[winged field]

yeah it is

[echo sleet]

prolly cause of that then

not sure

infernum is buggy a lot in multiplayer

i heard it is at least

i've never done any mods in multiplayer except eternity death

and that went poorly too

[winged field]

tryinng it in singleplayer rn

still no luck

do i need to be in and mode

[jovial sedge]

guys if i do a 7 player multiplayer calamity fargo thorium secret of the shadow playtrough will the game break

serious question even if i half know the answer

[dense eagle]

use fargos souls with fargos dlc when playing with cal

idk about secret of the shadow

cal fargo and thorium should work

[gloomy wedge]

It probably won’t break, but you’ll wish it did

[jovial sedge]

im getting pressure from everyone to add them

[gloomy wedge]

All of these mods individually are multiplayer compatible, but just make sure you don’t have any addons enabled

[fading dove]

thorium and sots will break balance

[jovial sedge]

at first i just wanted cal lol

[gloomy wedge]

Wrath of the gods especially is infamous for how badly it performs in multiplayer

[jovial sedge]

like the bosses will be useless right

[jovial sedge]

yeah i know that

[obsidian vine]

nah theres no way yharon was that much easier than dog 😭

[nimble wing]

For how it doesn’t perform in multiplayer at all*

There is genuinely no stability

[jovial sedge]

quick question tho

i know catalyst is fine MP but what about hunt of the old god

[gloomy wedge]

You can open the world, so it has some level of performance

[jovial sedge]

well idk if catalyst is fine with 7 players 💀

tbf nothing is fine with 7 players

[nimble wing]

We were going to test and fix multiplayer for 1.2, but we did it in a full playthrough format (not ideal) and it didn’t last long

Like I think the only thing we successfully tested was Solyn falling

[jovial sedge]

is ranger expansion a good mod

[nimble wing]

It looks to be incredibly unbalanced

[gloomy wedge]

i'll let you know i have two different ones in my playthrough rn

[nimble wing]

I can’t speak for quality but I’ve seen some, say, accessory effects like “Gives literally every ranger projectile powerful homing”

[jovial sedge]

7 players calamity thorium fargo playtrough
i dont think it can get as messy and unbalanced as that

without killing the game

[viscid canopy]

its mid

[gloomy wedge]

also missed this

[viscid canopy]

calamity addon slop

[gloomy wedge]

yeah yharon is like

im not mad, im just disappointed

[nimble wing]

Secrets of the Shadows is a lag machine btw

[jovial sedge]

im not adding it

[obsidian vine]

i haven't played calamity in like years so i don't remember tooo much of regular yharon but i think i do like this fight more its just that it felt like i didn't take dmg sometimes

[nimble wing]

👍

[tepid ruin]

Hm, anyone else had a weird issue with liquid physics just...Refusing to function?

[gloomy wedge]

thats usually because theres a lot of liquids trying to update in your world

like a LOT of liquids

[tepid ruin]

Well, I don't think I have much of that going on, but liquids just...Don't move

I am in the middle of expanding the sulphorous sea a bit for the scourge fight, but last time water definitely didn't move as sluggishly

I am thinking dynamic lighting is to blame...Somehow

Maybe it's causing water to constantly update even though it doesn't actually move, idk

And on a small sidenote, I don't like the deep diver

[gloomy wedge]

dude my worldgen is so fucked up

i dont have like

a single regular forest

its all like

boxed in by corruption

deserts

closest jungle ive ever seen

lakes fuckin everywhere

whats a guy gotta do to farm zombies in this economy

[little steppe]

simply use scarf then

[tepid ruin]

Yeah, I do just that

The dash distance just sucks

[molten venture]

w vvvvvvvvvv

[fast nacelle]

True

[sharp kernel]

what weapon shoud i use for suprem calamitas infernum (melee)

[tepid ruin]

Probably exoblade

[gloomy wedge]

i used nadir

exo isnt as good imo

dragon rage to kill the sepulcher

[tepid ruin]

Exoblade actually oneshots the sepulcher if you land the rightclick

[obsidian vine]

is there even anything to replace for accessories post yharon? maybe radience for absorber or smth

[sharp kernel]

i didnt do exo mec

i like to start with calamitas

[obsidian vine]

also whats recommended to do first exo mechs or scal

[tepid ruin]

I usually do mechs, but STUPID INFERNUM ROBS ME OF THE CHAIR

[gloomy wedge]

radiance over affliction

[tepid ruin]

So might as well do scal first, doesn't matter

[gloomy wedge]

if youre doing scal first, use statis' instead of aegis

you basically never use the dash on either one and the dodge is very helpful

[grim swallow]

ccr is stupid

[sharp kernel]

okay ty i try this

[grim swallow]

at half hp wof turns into a flesh mullet

and also my game crashed

[sharp kernel]

yeah i use this one for him

[obsidian vine]

alright, thanks

[gloomy wedge]

you basically always do exos first imo

esp on summoner

exoskeleton is BROKEN

[obsidian vine]

w, fighting the one boss i've never beaten first then

even in normal calamity anyway

[tepid ruin]

Exomechs aren't too bad, it's mostly just a matter of knowing which direction to move in during which attack. Also hope you remember DoG

[spare summit]

Exos because gem tech is the goat
Especially if multiclassing

[night fractal]

Deep diver dash distance is so peak

but infernum guts deep diver

[tepid ruin]

Yeah, maybe it's purely an infernum thing, but there is no dash distance

[night fractal]

iirc it buffs all ram cooldown significantly, but deep diver missed the memo and so now has higher cooldown

[tepid ruin]

It literally felt like innate dash

[night fractal]

no that's normal, but that's a good thing

shorter dash means you can dash again sooner

Since cooldown only ends when the dash ends

[tepid ruin]

I dunno, wavedashing worked as intended when I tried it

[night fractal]

It makes deep diver a very very good movement tool

[grim swallow]

THERE IS TWO OF THEM

[night fractal]

however

[gloomy wedge]

anyone know some easy foods

[grim swallow]

I BARELY LIVED WITH 1 FANNY

NOW THERE IS 2

[gloomy wedge]

i need to manage hunger and thirst and if both reach 0 i die instantly

[tepid ruin]

So charge cd never bothered me ever since I learned how to wavedash

[night fractal]

Infernum making all dashes take literally half as long to cooldown murdered deep diver

bc in base Calamity rams have 30 frames of cooldown

[spare summit]

Pumpkin pie and fishing

[night fractal]

On top of the shorter distance, Diver has both a higher speed and only 23 frames of cooldown

making it very very spammable in comparison

[tepid ruin]

Funnily enough, this playthrough I got lucky and got ominous tales on like the very first night

Boom, 300 cinnamon rollyns

[night fractal]

However, infernum changing rams to 15 frames of cooldown instead of 30 didn't work on deep diver, meaning instead of having 7 frames less cooldown than any other dash, Diver now has 8 frames MORE cooldown iirc

absolutely murdering it

[tepid ruin]

Well I still do the funny dash tech ever since I learned it specifically to beat Yharon

[fast nacelle]

It’s still very good cuz

Infernum gets butchered of rams

[tepid ruin]

But anyway, I don't like the short distance dash, maybe I'm just used to longer distances

[night fractal]

Dash cancelling doesn't change the innate cooldown but it does make the cooldown start sooner yeah

[fast nacelle]

I’m almost surprised I did folly no hit ramless

[nimble wing]

does it not work due to manual oversight or due to an actual breakage

[night fractal]

I think oversight

Deep Diver hard sets cooldown to 23 frames

unless that got fixed by now

[tepid ruin]

So basically, someone can mod in a fix

[night fractal]

yup

[nimble wing]

usually when infernum makes a mistake it's because calamity added the thing after infernum finished

[fast nacelle]

It does indirectly nerf pauldron

Which is

Good?

[nimble wing]

like how some bosses have gained debuffs after infernum killed them all

[fast nacelle]

Maybe?

[night fractal]

It is possible infernum fixed the deep diver oversight, I just remember hearing it was an issue a while back

[tepid ruin]

But anyway, imma go kill aquatic scourge

[night fractal]

And never heard it was fixed

[fast nacelle]

Peam

[night fractal]

I can go check the GitHub ig

[fast nacelle]

Good luck

[spare summit]

Oh, no wonder it felt terrible to use

[nimble wing]

@silver cedar any word on deep diver cooldown oversight?

[fast nacelle]

No way it’s habble from Fargos mods

I think

[night fractal]

clearly deep diver should still reduce cooldown by 7 frames

15 to 8 frames cooldown:)

[fast nacelle]

Real

What’s default dash cooldown?

Like

5 frames or sum?

[night fractal]

20 or 30

Idr

[nimble wing]

also this isn't what infernum does afaik, it reduces all dash cooldowns by 15 frames

[night fractal]

Definitely not 5

[fast nacelle]

That’s way more than I thought

[gloomy wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/tekken-wavedash-kazuya-gif-26669268

[nimble wing]

or did i read the code wrong

[night fractal]

I'll check rn

[silver cedar]

I know about it, I just don't really care

[nimble wing]

[silver cedar]

It doesn't need anything

[night fractal]

does infernum do public prs

[silver cedar]

Yes

[night fractal]

Cool

[tepid ruin]

Huh, something appears to have severely improved my fps

...to the point the fight got a bit faster and I ate shit at the final phase lmao

I did, however, forget my sentries so skill issue

[silver cedar]

Keep in mind I don't think this may even pass given the buffs were not meant for such a short ram and that could have consequences, one of the reasons I didn't bother at all is because I didn't wanna explore that possibility

[night fractal]

I would just make it match other rams

instead of being objectively nerfed

Although doing an IL edit sounds kinda ugh

[gloomy wedge]

which addon do i make a room for next

[night fractal]

So maybe I won't bother

[silver cedar]

Wdym nerfed

[gloomy wedge]

im torn between DSO addon or fargos dlc

[night fractal]

deep diver overrides the universal dash cooldown

30 -> 23

the issue is the infernum change doesn't touch diver at all

It's nerfed compared to other rams now

15 -> 23

[silver cedar]

That's not what a nerf is

It's just not buffed

Probably

[grim swallow]

guys what true melees do I have at the start of hardmode so I would know what to get tomorrow

because I need a break after 2 fannies

[night fractal]

if only deep diver had just removed 7 frames from the dash cooldown instead of hard setting to 23

[grim swallow]

also my crimson spawned in astral biome and below my snow biome

wonderful

[night fractal]

if sso releases before 1.4.5 I'll probably change that

[silver cedar]

That might just make more work for us

[gloomy wedge]

anyone know a way to get granite/marble without finding a granite/marble biome

no clue where any of those could be

[silver cedar]

Preferably if you don't need to do anything then don't do anything, there really is no problems the way it is now

Unless deep diver makes it so other dash cooldown reductions in cal don't work, then do whatever Ig

[tepid ruin]

But in fairness, I also don't feel much need for a ram dash until DoG

[night fractal]

I'm planning to make it into a multiplier specifically, that way it accounts for all crossmod cases of dash cooldown being changed + any cases we have of dash cooldown being changed

0.75x (rounded up) dash cooldown

This will also probably be how the Cinnamon Roll alcohol works

[wicked creek]

The pikes , for example

[night fractal]

but we'll see

[wicked creek]

The breaker blade is fine for trash enemies

[echo sleet]

should i do masochist and wrath of the gods?

or is it gonna be buggy as hell

[dense wasp]

any tips for avatar of emptiness?

[night galleon]

im doing fargos and wotg as well

im only on eternity buuuuttttt

it should work

since fargos dlc does its thing yknow

[river shell]

I just got the plasmilegion from catalyst, is it better than photoeviserator for scal?

[shy quest]

YO WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT

[whole quartz]

How good is coral crusher?

(catalyst)

[smoky dock]

It’s nice, I think

I really like the gimmick. I didn’t really care whether or not it was good nor did I pay attention

It was just fun enough to use

[wicked creek]

Levi and anahita are dead, pretty easy fight

[fading dove]

sun's gone

[lost night]

why for infernum is my guide saying to use stardust armour instead of tarragon for summoner pre sentinels

[dense wasp]

does the sun appear after avatar of emptiness is killed?\

[fading dove]

well its gone for now

[fading dove]

way better damage

[elder nebula]

yuh

[lost night]

big difference in survivability at all?

[fading dove]

yeahj

3 minions is better than like 2% damage

[dense wasp]

aight any tips for emptiness im using melee

[fading dove]

but yeah you lose a lot of bulk running stardust

[lost night]

is bulk really that important for sentinels

/ polter

[wicked creek]

Well, that depends on you now does it

[lost night]

like am i gonna be actively hurting myself if im not the best at the game and im using stardust

[tepid ruin]

I now also realised all this stuff about shorter dashes being good not really applying for dash cancelling

Since if the dash isn't long enough, you simply won't have it back up by the time it's over since the cooldown is still there, it just starts while you are still halfway through your dash

Maybe earlier, idk I'm not looking at frame data for fucking Terraria

[lost night]

is profaned soul artifact or ambrosia ampoule better

[white dagger]

huh?

I think I found a bug

if you beat DoG, then while he's at 1 hp, disconnect from the game

when you reconnect, you get the rampage badge

even with ram dashes

(elysian)

[grim swallow]

Hey guys
Whats the best OFFENSIVE melee reforge, menacing or violent somehow? Because I refuse to be tanky

[fading dove]

violent can either be absurd or do jack shit

[grim swallow]

Blade tongue

And avalanche

For these 2

[gloomy wedge]

The Fog Is Coming.

[white dagger]

WRONG. Plantern.

[grim swallow]

I read this as the frog is coming

[gloomy wedge]

cant find a granite biome with quality of terraria bc i made the world before installing it

at least i found shimmer

[fading dove]

giant ass frog ate the sun

[white dagger]

why is my infernum phase boss bar gone?

I remember it existed at the start of the game

for king slime and others

and now I just don't see it anymore at all

[grim swallow]

Check the settings

In interface

You may have it switched to calamity or vanilla

[obsidian vine]

im having lag issues with exo mechs fight, is there anything that can improve preformance?
Also worm and twins are fine to dodge but wtf is ares doing i just get nuked and i don't know by what

[white dagger]

oh i set it to vanilla

[grim swallow]

Infernum? If so ares Is the hardest solo

[obsidian vine]

yeah infernum

[gloomy wedge]

god damn qot has a LOT of wands huh

[grim swallow]

Well for the main attacks I love going sideways (right preferably) and down when needed

[obsidian vine]

i'd do worm solo but he has too many lasers that makes my game lag to the point of unplayability

[grim swallow]

Dashing back and forth also helps make him miss

[white dagger]

mannn

did a bad dodge

[tepid ruin]

You'll get there, DoG pretty much requires perfection unless you're absurdly tanky

And even then, that just lets you make a mistake or two

[fading dove]

3:15 is insane

[tepid ruin]

Goddamn catalyst whips are kinda nuts

% tag damage goes hard

[fading dove]

not as strong as kscope or morning star

[tepid ruin]

Yeah, but I'm like, post scal

I'm talking underbite atm

[white dagger]

how so?

[fading dove]

i got 3:04 with elysian aegis only

[white dagger]

my setup is daemons flame + elysian arrow +

[fading dove]

ah

elysian wings

omega blue armour

[still merlin]

^

[white dagger]

?

[still merlin]

I agree with wings

Armor is probably good but I’ve never used it

[tepid ruin]

Omega blue is not necessary, but yeah, tracers kinda suck

[fading dove]

omega blue i'm confident will take a minute off your time

[grim swallow]

Armor gives a shitton of dps

[white dagger]

if I don't use the tracers my walkspeed is like 2ms

[tepid ruin]

Don't walk

[fading dove]

you're also not walking

[tepid ruin]

Simple as

[still merlin]

But you’re always flying

[white dagger]

and its torture to play unless im in the air

[still merlin]

I thought the same thing a month ago

[grim swallow]

Also guys

[tepid ruin]

The floor is lava

[grim swallow]

Which 2 post ml class wings are good

[still merlin]

But then I was using Drew’s wings instead of the boot counterpart

[obsidian vine]

^ im ngl, having no boots did not chagne a thing

[still merlin]

And it was so much better

[obsidian vine]

its only for when you are not fighting bosses and just roaming around the world you feel it

[grim swallow]

Melee amd summon?

[still merlin]

The flight time I definitely noticed

But that could just be me and how I play

[obsidian vine]

my arena fixed that

clueless~1

[tepid ruin]

Yeah, the best part of boots is usually flight time increase tbh, but lategame wings have more than enough flight time

[still merlin]

I don’t love having a bunch of platforms

[gloomy wedge]

quality weapons

[tepid ruin]

Kid named Fargo's instabridges:

[obsidian vine]

well idk i needed the space for dog

[fading dove]

the best case i can think of for boots on dog is when he's lunging vertically

[white dagger]

I need to kill a reaper shark though

[fading dove]

you can fish for them

[obsidian vine]

cause i skill issue

[still merlin]

Fair enough

[fading dove]

hydrothermic crates drop 1-3 teeth 10% of the time post polter and old duke

[tepid ruin]

You can fish for crates in sulphur sea instead of shark hunting, yeah

[still merlin]

I just don’t like the slowdown from platforms

[tepid ruin]

Doesn't old duke ||just get instagibbed by the rift or something||

[still merlin]

And I don’t wanna hammer all of them or get another qol mod

[obsidian vine]

when falling diagonally down i go from 90mph to 89mph when i hit a platform

and get my flight time reset

idk

[still merlin]

You pause though

It messes me up

[fading dove]

even then, https://youtu.be/RM5eNuV0yls?t=75

[obsidian vine]

thats fair, i can notice the pause but its just barely short enough for me to not hate it

[tepid ruin]

Basically, boots are still usable, but hardly meta, people usually only settle with wings+shield

[smoky dock]

Yep

[tepid ruin]

Don't forget soaring potion

[fading dove]

plus, tracers are slower than starboard hover

[white dagger]

that screen feels absurdly zoomed out, I might be hallucinating??

might not be

[smoky dock]

If anything, if you’d like more mobility, you can use Soaring Insignia

[fading dove]

2560x1800

[white dagger]

2560x1440

[smoky dock]

er, Ascendant Insignia?

[still merlin]

Yeah it’s kind of right in the middle of horrible and able to deal with it

[grim swallow]

Oh man I just remmebered
Cryogen is gonna be a pain for true melee isnt it

[still merlin]

So I just lessen it by having less platforms

[still merlin]

Just off the top of my head yes

[fading dove]

ascendant insignia is pretty damn good for dog imo

[smoky dock]

not terribly

Cryogen true melee is a puzzle to solve, not a challenge to win

[white dagger]

it doesn't say they can be fished?

[fading dove]

lets you abuse dog's horizontal lunges a lot more consistent since you don't have to fear running out of flight time

[white dagger]

ph

old duke

nvm

[smoky dock]

Without a solution to the Cryogen Problem, it’ll take a long, long time

[fading dove]

old duke is good training for dashslop bosses

[grim swallow]

Well dont worry im patient

8 minutes for slime god

[fading dove]

because you've got old duke v2 right after dog

[grim swallow]

Cuz I was playing carefully

[grim swallow]

Yeah I am guessing that all -gens will be hard as fuck this run

[smoky dock]

Sounds like you’re not interested in finding a solution

[grim swallow]

Well let me guess

Hook propel yourself

Or hook of dissonance next to him

[tepid ruin]

I HATE THE WORD SLOP I HATE THE WORD SLOP

Ahem anyway

[smoky dock]

Not necessarily

That’s a solution. Not the only solution

[still merlin]

One could say

…it’s slop

[tepid ruin]

AAAAAA

[still merlin]

[tepid ruin]

Anyway, onto plantera

[grim swallow]

Well the only 2 options to deal consistent damage that I see are hook of dissonance and slagspotter pauldron with deep diver

But yeah skeletron so far was the most annoying boss to fight

Because of him constantly locking above you

[smoky dock]

You can find more optiobs

[still merlin]

When in doubt

Try a bunch of random shit

[grim swallow]

Well hook sounds good

My whole skeletron fight was hook and attempt to get some hits on the skull rain

[tepid ruin]

Now my setup is sun staff+black hawk (ichor bullets)+entropy's vigil on the rest

And cryogenic staff as sentries

[white dagger]

GGGG

FUCKASS WORM

[still merlin]

Nice

[tepid ruin]

Hey, well done

[white dagger]

infernum master mode ranger

[grim swallow]

I tried to do the same for slime god but that resulted in a lot of hits

[tepid ruin]

Oh, that was master mode too

[still merlin]

Very nice

I did mage

[tepid ruin]

I don't even touch master mode ngl

[still merlin]

How’s ranger going

[white dagger]

decent

[tepid ruin]

I just don't care for inflated numbers, especially since I can always tune up the fight by upping boss hp in the config

[white dagger]

I never did ranger before

[still merlin]

I never did mage before

[fading dove]

cal's doesn't work

[still merlin]

Not even on base terraria

[fading dove]

mutant mod's sliders do

[white dagger]

back in my days you could favorite boss lore for special effects

[tepid ruin]

Huh

Well, the more you know

Master mode is x2 on everything right?

[tepid ruin]

I remember that too, cryogen lore my beloved

[white dagger]

I love inventory-slop

[grim swallow]

Χ1.5 I think

[still merlin]

Oh no

[tepid ruin]

That was way before void bag too

[still merlin]

The word

[grim swallow]

But hey guys

What infernum bosses will actually let me fight them as a true melee

And not stay at the ceiling of my arena

[still merlin]

DoG

[tepid ruin]

From my experience, almost all of them tbh

Exos are still kinda ass though, but not impossible

[exotic ferry]

guys

[grim swallow]

In hardmode

[exotic ferry]

i have wrath of the gods and my entire surface is white now, i need to somehow grind mushrooms for regen potions, how do i do that

[tepid ruin]

in hardmode, the only one who doesn't work is cryogen

[wicked creek]

Ok, aureus was kinda tough NGL. Those arc shaped patterns hit me quite a bit ngl

But he's gone

And I'm not

[grim swallow]

Dont twins work not well

[tepid ruin]

Kinda, but they also do charges in all phases

[grim swallow]

Oh wait

Time to use slagspitter pauldron for the first time

[tepid ruin]

Huh, only the first use of entropy's vigil spawns the brothers?

Oh, nvm, it probably just bugged out a bit, resummoning worked

[smoky dock]

like, all of them

[smoky dock]

all of them minus like

taurus

aureus isn’t safe

[grim swallow]

Aureus is mr dead

[smoky dock]

cryogen requires brain thinking

[grim swallow]

Ans taurus is always a pain in the ass to fight

[smoky dock]

eol needs a little bit of thought maybe

[grim swallow]

I have never had a quick taurus fight

[smoky dock]

ravager sux unless you use a specific weapon

[grim swallow]

Okay

So no bosses in hardmode will lock themself above me like skeletron

[gloomy wedge]

thats the first room of my base completely done, the room for dso expansion

(yes i cheated in the dsos but idc at this point im not crafting 6 of them to shimmer)

[nimble wing]

infernum exos, if you're talking about them, are actually one of the more true melee-friendly bosses in the game

if you're talking about base exos then Yeah

[tepid ruin]

Well, idk about that still, mostly because this time, it's artemis and apollo who suck to find as true melee

[nimble wing]

artpollo primary is genuinely free true melee uptime so long as you actively stay close

[smoky dock]

it’s still a surprisingly interactive and technical aspect of thr fight

[nimble wing]

and actively staying close is the most reliable way to do primary

[fast nacelle]

I NO HIT GUARDIANS

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

[nimble wing]

banger??

[tepid ruin]

Ares folds to dragon rage in like 5 seconds flat though, it's kinda funny

[fast nacelle]

surprisingly under 400 attempts

[still merlin]

Which is how you survive sooo

Yes

[nimble wing]

exactly

[tepid ruin]

And with exo twins it's more like they actively flee me very, very fast

[fast nacelle]

would using sanctified spark as a mage weapon be better than occasionally using whips

for providence

imma use this for the time being

and no angel tread

[grim swallow]

Whats the armor

[fast nacelle]

but stardust armor might actually be better

[fast nacelle]

tier 3 ooa armor

i use sentries

mostly

so yeah

[grim swallow]

I actually dont know if sanctified spark is better than the crystal from ml

Both shred prov

Wait what does sanctified spark do

But id say that whips would be better cuz crits and extra 1.24x damage

[fast nacelle]

1.12x damage

[grim swallow]

?

Are they nerfed in your pack?

[fast nacelle]

very short range but high damage

[fast nacelle]

thats what kaleidoscope does

[gloomy wedge]

use morning star too

[grim swallow]

I am pretty sure kaleido does 1.23x

[fast nacelle]

and im NOT using five weapons at the same time

[fast nacelle]

no

[grim swallow]

Lemme clarify

[gloomy wedge]

kscope is 1.12x

morning star is 1.11x

[fast nacelle]

ya

[gloomy wedge]

but with both their crit rates it goes up to 1.51x

[fast nacelle]

and perditius is 23 tag damage

[gloomy wedge]

in other words YOU GET +50% DAMAGE FOR FREE

[fast nacelle]

true

but i dont think providence

will

last long enough

especially if i use eye of magnus

ok im using ALL of these as active weapons

(probably)

[grim swallow]

I personally stuck to just whios and still shredded prov

On 2x hp

A couple good adren+rahes and its done

[fast nacelle]

yeah but im no hitting

so

iidk

[grim swallow]

Ohh

[gloomy wedge]

note to self, dont kill piggy

[fast nacelle]

i honestly quite like providence first attack

its good its only used once tho

cuz its pretty hard

[still merlin]

More than once if you’re slow

[grim swallow]

I never had providence go into 2nd cycle on p1

I had her once do the p2 opener twice once

Because ranger is ass

[limber sage]

???

uhm, that sounds like your ranger setup was ass

like, horrifically ass

[grim swallow]

Yeah maybe

That was my first infernum tho

And it was before superradiant slaughterer existed which is op afaik

[lost night]

how do i dodge inf signus bs attack where slashes come from nowhere

[still merlin]

Reaction time

That’s it

[smoky dock]

They always move at the same speed once they spawn

However, you can manipulate where they spawn

[still merlin]

You need to watch for the screen darkening

Dash into the opposite direction you’re facing when they spawn

[smoky dock]

They’ll attempt to appear ahead of you in whichever direction you’re moving, just like any other predictive attack

[fast magnet]

ok

just got back home

i still need a good ranger weapon for first mech prime

[grim swallow]

Predict signuses prediction

[tepid ruin]

Funny how easy plantera became once I just...built a bigger arena

[grim swallow]

Yeah thats plant

[still merlin]

Classic plantera

[grim swallow]

You either say fuck it we ball and use the pre built one or you make it the size of 5 AoEs

[lost night]

what summon weapon is best for polter / plantera

[tepid ruin]

once you walk away from the stupid farts, it just kinda isn't a threat

[grim swallow]

Wdym polter/plantsra bro

[still merlin]

I mine out the center floating island of the spawned arena

[tepid ruin]

Entropy's vigil

[fast magnet]

polter or plantera bro

what

[lost night]

i read the earlier message and typed the wrong thing, polter / dog

[cedar ridge]

virid vanguard

[lost night]

😭

[fast magnet]

dazzling stabber for polter virid vanguard for dog

[lost night]

kk ty

[tepid ruin]

Oh, that

[grim swallow]

Virid vanguards for dog stabby stabbers (with tenruy if you want to) for polterfuck

[fast magnet]

?

[white dagger]

is the pulse rifle any good

[fast magnet]

no idea

i think it is

[gloomy wedge]

i genuinely did not move during this fight

i love pre boss necrosteocytes

[fast nacelle]

im done editing my video

yay

any tips for providence

[lost night]

does polterghast enrage at all in infernum?

[spice pike]

can you fly kite with solyn?

[spice pike]

i think at surface.

[radiant cradle]

i wanna kill it for the dash thingy, how do i enter the bereft vassal's portal?

[grim swallow]

Open srttings in the portal

[radiant cradle]

k thanks

[weary dirge]

where bro? infernum mod

[radiant cradle]

where what?

[elder nebula]

is the mode enabled

[weary dirge]

i cant kill ceaseless void

[weary dirge]

ep

[proven blaze]

so im trying to play with the unofficial Bard and Healer class, are there any guides/recommendations for new gear/accessories/ etc. out there?

[white dagger]

how do I leave???

I have the token

but it doesnt seem to do anything

[tepid ruin]

Yeah, the portals are fucky

[white dagger]

oh I teleported out

for 3 seconds

[tepid ruin]

I had to straight up alt-tab for them to work

[white dagger]

and then got teleported back in

yeah

alt tabbing makes it work???

[tepid ruin]

I know right

[white dagger]

oh it doesn't even count?

in the boss checklist

I won

?

[fading dove]

its because of boss checklist

[spare summit]

Boss checklist will also mark every modded boss as undefeated after entering the subworld

Youll want to install dragonlens to fix that

Very annoying

[tepid ruin]

Or remove checklist before doing that boss

I'm pretty sure it's only the vassal fight that does this shit too

[grim swallow]

Yeah

Other subworlds dont do that

Also who was the first cal addon boss in a subworld
ND?

[spare summit]

The funny thing is I did this and upon re-enabling it everything was still screwed up

[tepid wagon]

how hard is skeletron on infernum

[wicked creek]

I've beaten golem now, and I've yet to find a harder boss than it before learning it

But once you learn it, he's not that bad, and he's really fun to learn