calamity-addon-talk

[terse seal]

I'll just try it rn

Ngl

Up till now my best decision has been to take a Cosmolight from my other world

[obsidian vine]

honsetly, i'd tank the hit just to get the cool whip icicle on it and then stay on firecracker, but i used 3 Igneous Exaltation with the rest of the slots on sanguine with spider armor

[terse seal]

Saves soooo much time

[dense eagle]

you can just make it

[terse seal]

I'm using Daedalus armor

[obsidian vine]

^ that to

[dense eagle]

in the beginning of the hm

[obsidian vine]

daedalus should be better so that works

[terse seal]

I thought it was post mechs😭

[dense eagle]

bruh

[terse seal]

And I'm using ancient ice chunk

[dense eagle]

its too good to forget

[terse seal]

Ik it's peak

Ok I'ma go test slag splitter brb

[obsidian vine]

also any other improvements to make for dog?

[obtuse minnow]

im getting abused in that arena

[dense eagle]

Break stuff to have more space

And place platform

It exists so you dont have to mine big hole

[terse seal]

Well I mean it's fine

But not too good

Barely does dmg

[dense eagle]

Then dont use it

[terse seal]

That's what I'm planing to do

[dense eagle]

Get wings from providence

[fading dove]

elysian wings

stardust armour has better offense

also virid vangard

inf dog has pierce resist and cant be outran so stellar torus is noticable worse

[obsidian vine]

alright i'll try with that

[terse seal]

FUCK

FUCK

I had him 8% and my pot was 3 seconds away

I could have won

[obsidian vine]

i was usin the boots cause i land on a platform every now and then and didn't really want my speed full killed but i'll try

[obtuse minnow]

broken armor for 2m? jungle pmo so much

finally 🙏🏻 just needed a proper arena

[terse seal]

FONALY

FINALY

YES

DESTROYER IS DOWN

Cal shade time

[grim swallow]

does the volcano deal more dps than muramasa

[obtuse minnow]

nice

[terse seal]

Bro I'm literally trembling rn never did I expect destroyer of all bosses to be like that

[obtuse minnow]

it took me 2 tries to kill destroyer. It reminded me of fargos destroyer 💀

[terse seal]

Infernum

It took me 22

[obtuse minnow]

ye ik infernum

im saying it took me two tries

[terse seal]

He was easy the last phase is insane tho

[obtuse minnow]

and it reminded me of fargos one

[terse seal]

Fargos was light

Eternity right?

[obtuse minnow]

💀

[terse seal]

Eternity destroyer was light

[obtuse minnow]

this destroyer was even easier

[terse seal]

I melted him with cobalt sword

[terse seal]

Nah

He was essy

[obtuse minnow]

just dodge at the last second

and he will miss

[terse seal]

The last phase wasn't tho

All the fight was a no hit

The last phase was crazy tho

[obtuse minnow]

no?

it was tame

nothing hard to dodge in the last phase

[terse seal]

Bro it had me dodging Lazer on half me screen while also tryna dodge the rams

[obtuse minnow]

he doesnt ram when you enter the dog lazer move

[terse seal]

He does

[obtuse minnow]

🙏🏻 he doesnt

[terse seal]

He does tho

[obtuse minnow]

imma test it out myself rq

[terse seal]

Go ahead

[obtuse minnow]

he does not ram during this move

🙏🏻 or im lucky

[terse seal]

Not during this move

The other one where the Lazers do circles

[obtuse minnow]

ye the fight is tame

thats easy to dodge though

[terse seal]

🤷 idk what to tell you

[obtuse minnow]

fargo destroyer was harder to dodge ngl

the last phase

[terse seal]

Personally he wasnt

Why tf can I not find hallowed ore

[fading dove]

final coil 🤤

[terse seal]

My hallow is in the snow

[obtuse minnow]

hallow biome

its deep

[terse seal]

And I'm in the cavern layer

[obtuse minnow]

i found most of it near hell

[terse seal]

Ok

[fading dove]

mech bags have hallowed bars once all three are downed

[terse seal]

Well I'm not in the mood plus I alr found some

Time to go do cal shade

Ngl she hard

The last phase gets me everytime

Is this fine for cal shade

The bottom is ornate sheild

99 defense

If you can't see

Why tf is my witch doctor banging the nurse😭

[wicked creek]

You could use hallowed to have two dodges

[terse seal]

Yea but I'll lose on dmg by a lot

[wicked creek]

And also upgrade terraspark boots to either angel treads (better flight stats) or fairy boots (Regen and defense)

[terse seal]

Am I wrong?

Won't I lose 1 minion and 10% dmg

[wicked creek]

Well, if anything you should gain one minion

Hallowed gives 3 slots iirc

[terse seal]

Oh

Didn't know

[terse seal]

Should I go the ancient

Or the base

[wicked creek]

Doesn't matter

Literally just aesthetics

[terse seal]

Oh

[wicked creek]

Yeah, ancient cobalt and jungle, Necro and ancient Necro, shadow and ancient shadow, the metal armors and their ancient version, etc, are the same, just different aesthetic

[terse seal]

Good to know

[gloomy wedge]

what should i make my base for this all addons playthrough

[terse seal]

A huge c

The letter c

But huge

[wicked creek]

An actual prison

Not just a shoebox, like a prison with cells and bars and etc

[terse seal]

Bro Istg u can't find hallowed ore again

I found 3 veins and nothing else

[median kiln]

any guide for infernum scal pre exos

[waxen tide]

class?

[wicked creek]

Try teleporting to the underworld, and checking the bottom of the hallowed biome from there

[median kiln]

melee

[waxen tide]

hmm

[terse seal]

Also hallowed ore glows even with spelunker pots right?

[waxen tide]

probs use ataraxia or ark of the cosmos

drage for sepulcher

[wicked creek]

Yes

[median kiln]

ok i just got her to 2nd phase

accessories

[fading dove]

jesus christ

how are you struggling

[wicked creek]

A totally normal amount of accessories

[fading dove]

13

[median kiln]

I have wing slot, boot slot, shield slot, diving gear slot, community slot, necklace slot

[fading dove]

youre supposed to have 7

[median kiln]

i think i just dont know her attack patterns syet

[terse seal]

I mined all the way to the underworld

Didnt find a spec of hallowed ore

[wicked creek]

The hallow biome spawns in the shape of the arm of a V

If you dig down vertically you're not gonna stay in it

[terse seal]

Well

I heart the hallowed biome music

So I'm still there

[wicked creek]

Are there crystal shards around you

[terse seal]

Nah

[wicked creek]

Then you're close to it, not in it.

[terse seal]

I'm littleraly seeing hallowed biome enemys

[wicked creek]

Yes, because you're close enough to the blocks of the hallow, that you're in the general area of the hallow biome

But you're not inside it

[terse seal]

I see crystals now

And pearlstone

Not a single vein

Found 1

1 vein

[median kiln]

next attempt

under 50%

attempt 11 is under 50%

[grim swallow]

what do we think of this for inf perforators (using dark lance as a weapom)

[fading dove]

are those nike

[grim swallow]

yeah im playing ccr

its the SoC

[gloomy wedge]

do you guys like my mod list

[fading dove]

ah

yeah pretty good

[terse seal]

Bro got em forces on

[fading dove]

was zenith copyrighted or smth

[gloomy wedge]

just got a musket

what the fuck is THIS

look at how overhaul massacred my boy

[terse seal]

The moment I fought calamitas shade with on tier loot

She got shreded

[grim swallow]

class?

[terse seal]

Summoner

First time

Ngl it's op

[limber sage]

yes, it is

that's part of the fun

[terse seal]

Lol

[limber sage]

power trips are great

[terse seal]

Ngl I should have played infernum a different class

Cause the only boss that actually got me pumping and stressing

Was skeletron

And destroyer

[terse seal]

Not prime

Guys

Is plantera annoying?

[wicked creek]

Well I'm also around that point, and so far it doesn't really seem like she is

[obtuse minnow]

Fuck yes

mostly cuz of the arena

just make a suitable arena

[cedar ridge]

infernum would actually be hard if their was armor crunch

why isnt there any

[obtuse minnow]

fr

[terse seal]

Wdym

[obtuse minnow]

i had an enemy give me a debuff that halves my armor

[cedar ridge]

i just almost died to giant clam

[obtuse minnow]

for 2m

before plantera

[obtuse minnow]

she does a funny thing and if you dont have a good arena you are done for 🙏🏻

[terse seal]

"Calamity pro" and almost died to clam

[terse seal]

I always use the pre made one

And just put some platforms

[cedar ridge]

fr bro

[obtuse minnow]

may god help you

[terse seal]

Should I be scared?

[obtuse minnow]

i didnt play vanilla for a long time

[terse seal]

I haven't played vanila in 2 years

[obtuse minnow]

same

[wicked creek]

I recommend modifying it a bit

Like destroying the center island

[terse seal]

Like?

[terse seal]

I do that anyway

[wicked creek]

Possibly adding some platforms too

But that's less important

[terse seal]

As I said I do that too

[cedar ridge]

i just i understand it now and almost no hit giant clam

[obtuse minnow]

eye of cthulu ah wannabe

[terse seal]

So easy

Dodging rams is easy af

[obtuse minnow]

she has the spores

that linger

and she cuts you off

just fight her

[terse seal]

I'm in the car rn lol

Just asking for when I get home

[cedar ridge]

do i try to kill the red jewel in king slime fight infernum?

[terse seal]

I killed calshade

And now I'm going to the beach to relax

[terse seal]

No

Its way to tanky and not worth killing

[cedar ridge]

so i just dodge both the jewel and king slime and the actual king slime

[terse seal]

Yea

Trust me

It's easier than it sounds

[cedar ridge]

i beat it

but im summoner

so

idk

[terse seal]

Same

I fought him with the squirrel staff

So it wasn't fun

[cedar ridge]

why would you do that

[terse seal]

Cause I hate my life

[gloomy wedge]

hi there

[terse seal]

It took like 300 attempts

[terse seal]

Hmmmm

New PC ignore Pablo ahhh

Just a cute dog walking

[gloomy wedge]

thats the first -gen down

[cedar ridge]

WHEN DOES EOW STOP SPLITTING WTF

[smoky dock]

infernum eow?

[cedar ridge]

yeah

[smoky dock]

infernum eow splits a total of two times

[obtuse minnow]

"he doesnt"

aw

[smoky dock]

so you need to reduce the health bar to 0 a total of three times

[cedar ridge]

bruh

man

[cedar ridge]

so far infernum just feels like fighting enraged calalmity bosses

[gloomy wedge]

fanny.

fanny how do you know that.

fanny im gonna need to ask you some questions.

[fading dove]

suggestions discussion 😭

[rotund wind]

Fanny is toxic 💔

[limber sage]

yeah, honestly, that shit is borderline creepy

that it essentially has some sort of access to your pc

[fading dove]

psycho mantis if he was cool

[limber sage]

annoying as fuck*

[cedar ridge]

i hate skeletron

[fading dove]

thats no way to speak about your Fan-Tastic Friend!

[limber sage]

sorry but, whenever I see that thing I'm reminded of that fucking paperclip and other desktop 'helpers' from decades ago

[cedar ridge]

if inernum bosses had armor crunch id actually be getting creamed

[limber sage]

and it just fills me with digust and hatred

[fading dove]

clippy was a bro sorry

just watched someone face the full brunt of cal overhaul's bullshit after continuously warning them

[zealous narwhal]

why are there so many bars on the screen what do any of them do tf

[fading dove]

he's running every cal addon

[zealous narwhal]

ew

[fading dove]

its to see if the game is even beatable iirc

[prime summit]

ummm does anybody have an idea why this text is so small since like i wanna read

[uncut ocean]

I BEAT

SCAL DESPERATION PHASE

FIRST TRY

I AM A GAMING DEITY

dude i have never had so much adrenaline in my bloodstream

i am shaking

[limber sage]

could be resolution problem

[river shell]

I forgot astralgeldon unlocks the intergalatic set, is that better than tarragon for ranger class?

[cedar ridge]

i finally beat skeletron infernum

6 attempts

summoner felt bad against it

or hes tanky af idk

[limber sage]

intergelactic is like uh...a middle option between offense and defense for mage and ranger

[uncut ocean]

congrats! :D

[fast nacelle]

what more accessories give summoner damage (using stress pill for easier phases of the fight)

[cedar ridge]

what boss are you even on bro

[fast nacelle]

guardians

[cedar ridge]

replace apprentice scarf for amalgamated brain

and use stardust wings

[fast nacelle]

no

[little steppe]

apprentice scarf is necessary

minionless summoner for context

[fast nacelle]

apprentice scarf is literraly best accessory for my playthrough

[fast nacelle]

also no hit so dodge is useless

[little steppe]

yeah

[cedar ridge]

why

[little steppe]

how many sentries does that armor give again

[little steppe]

read

[fast nacelle]

3

[fast nacelle]

summoner without minions

[cedar ridge]

oh

lol

[fast nacelle]

im using sentries and whips

[cedar ridge]

and no hit

wow

[uncut ocean]

okay uhhh

im a little bit confused

[little steppe]

I think that loadout may be good

[uncut ocean]

are artemis and apollo supposed to only take 1 damage during their energy ball phase?

[little steppe]

idk if statis curse gives more dmg than scroll

[wicked creek]

I believe they just die after that so yeah, you just run away from it

[uncut ocean]

oh i see, how long does the phase last?

[zealous narwhal]

if you mean their desperation attack i think its 20 seconds then they need to crash into each other when dashing

then they die

[fast nacelle]

2% more

wait

statis blessing stacks with statis curse

only in not minions

thats funniii

its also funny that summoner emblem and papyrus scarabe is my best damage options except apprentice scarf until nucleogenesis

[shy quest]

what else does catalyst plan to add

[uncut ocean]

i see, thank you and thank sauron :D

ive beat them now, holy fucking shit the tainted ataraxia DESTROYS them

[cedar ridge]

if I disable and re enable infernum will it break my infernum world

[uncut ocean]

assuming you dont open your world in between disabling and re-enabling, i dont think it should break anything?

[fast nacelle]

got through one cycle of last phase for the first time!!

[fast nacelle]

no

even if you went into the world it would just deload everything

reenabling it would just revert everything

test it if youre too scared to

(which i recommend(

[cedar ridge]

is infernum wof supposed to be easy

or is it cause im summoner or something

[dusky ingot]

Kinda

But also summoner cracked

[grim swallow]

fanny is cool

except the time he covers half my screen when im on low hp

[waxen tide]

yeah

wof is free

[little steppe]

what about star tainted generator

[grim swallow]

what do we think of my build of a worm from another game

[wicked creek]

Is it a noita worm

[grim swallow]

yes

[wicked creek]

Both, but still pretty simple

The lasers from the detached eyes are synchronized to the music! And easy to avoid by just jumping and going in a direction

[wicked creek]

It looks good

But I think doing a darker line with painted walls/ other darker walls could look even better

[grim swallow]

oh yeah I should do that

I can buy some blue paint

[uncut ocean]

may i ask, is this a good loadout for infernum boss rush?

[grim swallow]

seems fire

[uncut ocean]

alrighty, cheers :]

[uncut ocean]

cool build btw :3

[grim swallow]

thx

[obtuse minnow]

golem is such a long fight

[river shell]

im about to do polterghast, is the Voltaic firestorm better than superradiant slaughterer?

[wicked creek]

I don't think so

Superradiant slaughterer is really good

[gloomy wedge]

no

superradiant is best until dog

[jade ocean]

Advice for infernum moonlord? first phanstasmal deathray is so bad

[gloomy wedge]

have you tried watching a nohit

and what are you using rn

[cedar ridge]

is this good for infernum AS

why do i feel like i have 10x gravity

[wicked creek]

Personally I'd use fairy boots

Defense, Regen, etc

[wicked creek]

Probably because deep diver means you can actually move underwater ?

[cedar ridge]

um

[cedar ridge]

no i feel like im literally being pulled down

[wicked creek]

Weird.

[cedar ridge]

doi fight him above or below water

[wicked creek]

Below for phase 1 and 2

[fading dove]

p1-2 is underwater

[wicked creek]

Phase 3 is above water

[fading dove]

also there's no water physics

which ruins the whole point of being underwater

[cedar ridge]

hes kinda hard

[wicked creek]

He's unusual, but not super hard

Still took me a few attempts tho

[cedar ridge]

maybe i should just go warding for once

[wicked creek]

Warding is the strongest modifier

But consider this:
Damage = dopamine

[cedar ridge]

thats what i was thinking bro

am i suposed to make an arena

[wicked creek]

I think a platform or two under water greatly help

[fading dove]

yeah

high end difficulty is usually balanced around having an arena

[wicked creek]

And then I always make an arena over the sulphurous sea for most hardmode bosses

[gloomy wedge]

waho

[wicked creek]

This is incomprehensible to me

[obtuse minnow]

no molten armor? get out

[gloomy wedge]

all the addons

ALL OF THEM

[woven rune]

late but yeah that's peak

could maybe go Radiance or Dark Sun Ring over Chalice depending on what you want but that's damn good fs

[echo sleet]

how many bosses are reworked in masochist?

[dusky ingot]

Did you post the modpack already?

Or did you not get to it ?

[gloomy wedge]

not gotten to it

ill need to disable dragonlens when i do

[uncut ocean]

glad to hear! :D

[gloomy wedge]

all vanilla bosses, all calamity bosses from desert scourge to calclone, plus old duke and exo mechs

all other bosses are their base master death versions

anyways thats #3 for the dog total

[uncut ocean]

i love the tainted iridescent excalibur but i wish that Earth was better because it's really fun

[cedar ridge]

my ancient ice chunk is doiign no damage to as

i cant stay close

damn 13%

[fading dove]

all the ones that get eternity ai

[lofty cloud]

Hey, where do I get calamity infernum?

[cedar ridge]

tmodloader

just ype infernum

[lofty cloud]

thank you!

what addons do u recommened that work in multiplayer?

[gloomy wedge]

is this anyone's first time playing calamity

in your friend group

[lofty cloud]

Just one but he'll be aight

[gloomy wedge]

then just infernum is enough

you can add vanities if you really want to

[grim swallow]

good for inf skeletron (white boots are SoC, red boots are the thing from perfs, the thing in the last slot cant be replaced)

[gloomy wedge]

just DO NOT add wrath of the gods to a multiplayer playthrough

[lofty cloud]

Alright, Thank you

[gloomy wedge]

it is not multiplayer compatible in the slightest

oh and dont use cal overhaul in general because its bad

[lofty cloud]

Yeah i've learned from that mistake 😭

[cedar ridge]

is ths important

[grim swallow]

okay why is skeletron another cryogen variant😭

does skeletron usually take 6 minutes as true melee

[echo sleet]

expect many bosses to take longer times when doing true melee

you're true melee after all

[waxen tide]

no

just vanity

[grim swallow]

yeah but at least I know skeletrons patterns

[fast nacelle]

never thought i would use sanctified spark as mage weapon

[grim swallow]

rn im being obliterated by fucking carcinogen

[fast nacelle]

only a pet

[echo sleet]

i wouldn't recommend doing fargos and infernum

i'm talking from experience

i tried that

[grim swallow]

fargos?

[echo sleet]

my world bugged out

[grim swallow]

I dont have fargos

[echo sleet]

aren't the socks from fargos?

[grim swallow]

its ccr

[echo sleet]

oh

nvm

mb

[wicked creek]

Pet

Also unrelated but how the fuck do i Dodge the plantera seed bullets in the last phase when I'm enclosed in her thorn wall things?

[cedar ridge]

is daedelus armor better than spider

[wicked creek]

No

Same amount of summon damage, 1 less minion slot

[cedar ridge]

does sprime need ram dash in infernum

[radiant cradle]

suffering

[hearty solstice]

Does frgos eternity change all calamity bosses

[radiant cradle]

you just have to make sure you will have enough space

[fading dove]

every boss is rebalanced

[waxen tide]

no

[fading dove]

bosses up to and including calclone, along with old duke and exos have eternity mode ai

[hearty solstice]

scal ?

[gloomy wedge]

why does overhaul add POWER GENERATION bro

did they just look at whatever minecraft mods they pulled out of a hat and go "alr, do that"

[radiant cradle]

this is the kind of stuff i'm supposed to fight inf guardians, am i not?

[gloomy wedge]

youre using full warding right

[radiant cradle]

tried both full menacing and full warding

[gloomy wedge]

warding is almost always better, if youre not using that then go use that

aside from that, build looks pretty good

id drop hote for smth like ampoule but

other than that youve got all the things you really want for the fight

[radiant cradle]

i have like 110 attemts where i went full menacing and rn i'm almost 140 attempts in and i have full warding

[gloomy wedge]

oh wait youre not whipstacking

go get a morning star and whipstack with kscope

[radiant cradle]

whats kscope

[fading dove]

kaleidoscope

kscope

[radiant cradle]

oh

[terse seal]

Plantera is rearranging my guts rn I can no hit her but the last phase is so fucking hard

Any tips?

I can't even dodge it

[gloomy wedge]

are you sticking close to plantera?

[terse seal]

Only in the 1rst and 2 phase

[weary notch]

the hook of dissonance:

[terse seal]

I am using it

It's my fav hook

[weary notch]

oh

goober moment

[terse seal]

Also

[weary notch]

what class ur using

[radiant cradle]

how does whipstacking even work, doesn't calamity disable whip tag damage?

[terse seal]

What does hod have to do with her last phase

[terse seal]

Summoner

[weary notch]

changes it from additive flat bonus to additive multiplicative damage bonus

so stacking a whip that does +4% and +6% results in +10% total

[terse seal]

I'm gonna come there with my feller of evergreens and cut you down if you don't answer

[weary notch]

entropy's vigil, vengeful sun staff and dormant brimseekers

[waxen tide]

vigil sucks

[terse seal]

Im using allat except vigil

[gloomy wedge]

its SIGNIFICANTLY buffed

[terse seal]

I'm using queen spider staff

[weary notch]

ew

[gloomy wedge]

kscope + morning star gives you +23% tag damage

[waxen tide]

use cryogenic staff

[radiant cradle]

huh i remember when playing like a year or two ago someone telling that it doesnt work in clamity

[terse seal]

Ok

[radiant cradle]

did they change it or did i misremember that

[terse seal]

Also what does hook of dissonance help me in her last phase

Tree

[radiant cradle]

well you can go to the blocked off areas using it

[weary notch]

just like tp behind her

[terse seal]

Ik that much

[weary notch]

when she dashes

[terse seal]

I don't have trouble when she dadhes

I said last phase

Not 2nd

[gloomy wedge]

yap

[weary notch]

yea thats with the hexa arena block off shit right?

[wicked creek]

Why does plantera hoard gimmicks like a magpie hoards shiny things

Lingering projectiles, arena sectioning, delayed projectiles,

Like holy fuck

[terse seal]

No

[weary notch]

ion reading allat

[terse seal]

It's when she becomes a minigun

[weary notch]

oh

the triple shot spam?

diep.io reference

[terse seal]

At 30%

She starts just spiting

And it ain't bars

[weary notch]

three?

yea a triple shot

just like

run bro

[terse seal]

I do it's all over the screen

The projectiles I mean

[weary notch]

yea i half lost rn

jn lemme pull up the no hit

[terse seal]

I can't use medal to show you

[gloomy wedge]

2 minutes of using overhaul murasama

this weapon feels like its made for someone whos bad at the game but wants to feel like the coolest guy in existence

so they just make themselves a super op flashy sword instead of like, actually getting better

[weary notch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcfmkPWBm68

tell me when

[terse seal]

Around 1:27

But his arena is huge

I ain't building allat

[weary notch]

js city buster bro

💔

[terse seal]

Im too broke to buy dynamite😭 🙏

And I ain't farming cash

[weary notch]

tfym your too broke

[terse seal]

I have 6 silver to my name

Goblin tink be like the irs

[waxen tide]

the peakest nohitter🙏

[weary notch]

https://tenor.com/view/votv-kel-keljoy-keljoyplush-plush-gif-14758875349718760905

[waxen tide]

(33 dqs)

[terse seal]

Wtf are dqs

[waxen tide]

disqulifications

[terse seal]

What are they

Oh

I might be stupid

I'm confused

[wicked creek]

Ok NVM plant dead

[weary notch]

no hit is not valid

[terse seal]

You on plant too?

What class

[terse seal]

Yea ik what disqualification means

I'm asking what are they

I didn't see nun wrong

[waxen tide]

infinite sunflower buff is not allowed

[terse seal]

Oh

Arena buffs exist

I forgot

[grim swallow]

bro how do I dodge chlorine paladin

[waxen tide]

I mean its specifically sunflower since it needs solid blocks

[wicked creek]

Melee

[terse seal]

Chlorine?

Wtf

[wicked creek]

Just got past it now

[terse seal]

Nice

[grim swallow]

blue one from ccr

[terse seal]

Yea im struggling on minigun phase

Might just be cause my arena small af

[wicked creek]

Ok look if you're in a bad part of the 6-way split, rather tank the damage and go to another part than trying to dodge it inside the small space

[wicked creek]

I just used vernal pass with 3 platforms

No other arena

[terse seal]

Same

[cedar ridge]

is calclone still post mech in infernum

[grim swallow]

yes

[cedar ridge]

shes something else

[grim swallow]

yeah

shes cal shadow

[terse seal]

Ngl

Destroyer was harder

[cedar ridge]

destoryer was seasy af

i keep running out of flight time against her

[terse seal]

Cal shade is light

[jade ocean]

Yes
I just have no clue what to do
Three eyes feels like projectile spam
First phase phantasmal deathray's projectiles feels like it blends in

[gloomy wedge]

three eyes have a LOT of projectiles yes

in general my recommendation is to just try and minimize the time you spend in that phase

build up adren on two eyes if you need to

and then just rush it

[grim swallow]

Guys anyone have tips for infernum ccr slime god

[cedar ridge]

you still doing multiplayer?

[terse seal]

Hell nah

I'm realisng it's ass

You can't enjoy bosses

[gloomy wedge]

nice

[radiant cradle]

thanks for telling me that whip stacking works in this mod

[gloomy wedge]

just remember that kscope and morning star are the two best weapons in the entire mod

so feel free to abuse them

[smoky dock]

as long as you’re using any support weapon (such as a whip) then summoner is the best class by far

[grim swallow]

Also whats the best safe option for true melee slime god in infernun

Sausage maker has 0 range

[gloomy wedge]

i wouldnt say by far

rogue gets close and surpasses summoner in a couple stages

[smoky dock]

dank lance

no alternatives exist

[grim swallow]

I aint getting close to them when I have mister chlorine jumping on me

[grim swallow]

Dammit

I am using it already

[smoky dock]

slime gun is very advisable

fwb too

[grim swallow]

Fwb?

[gloomy wedge]

hmm today i will find a cnidrion in ccr

[grim swallow]

Whats that again

[smoky dock]

just bulkmaxx and take it slow
slime gun and dank lance are good enough for offense

Flame Waker Boomts

[grim swallow]

Ohh

But yeah my biggest problem arent even the base paladins

Its the newbie

Chlorine paladin is on crack

[smoky dock]

What the hell are you talking about

[grim swallow]

Ccr

[smoky dock]

Ah

[grim swallow]

Calamity community remix

[smoky dock]

CCR might change things but it probably doesn’t change the fact that phm fat strats are obscenely good

[grim swallow]

Adds a third slime to the fight
It jumps up and teleports either above you or above and next yo you and fall fown

And it deals like 150 damage

[smoky dock]

sounds like a need for knockback immunity

then you can just kinda
get out out the way

[grim swallow]

Wont help with the shit falling on me

Like it constantly jumps

Its just a constant extra pressure

Because im guessing rhat it was balanced for death mode

[smoky dock]

Well i’ll be here in case you need me to say “Use more bulk” again

[grim swallow]

But in infernun you have to be somewhat precise

[river shell]

Which is better for DoG
bloodflare or intergalatic?

[smoky dock]

Bloodflare

[grim swallow]

What class

[river shell]

ranger

[smoky dock]

Intergelactic’s gimmick does not thrive well in the environment DoG creates and the reduced stats does not justify using it over Bloodflare

[grim swallow]

Ranger intergelactic gives more dps

[smoky dock]

Omega Blue 👍

[grim swallow]

Yeah omega blue is the best choice

[radiant cradle]

is there anything i should change before providence? (the only change since then has been the morning star)

[grim swallow]

Also what alcohols do I have available pre slime god

[smoky dock]

I’d highly suggest dropping Heart of the Elements and Papyrus Scarab for The Absorber and Ambrosial Ampoule

[smoky dock]

ale

and sake

and whatever ccr makes available

[radiant cradle]

there already is the absorber in my accs

[smoky dock]

must’ve missed it then…

Drop HotE for Ampoule, theb

[radiant cradle]

alr, thanks

[smoky dock]

You can safely drop Papyrus Scarab for Deific Amulet, Cherished Sealocket, or Amalgamated Brain

If you do not believe a ram would be helpful against Providence then you can drop Asgard’s Valor for uhhhhhh

Statis’ Ninja Belt

(As long as you don’t use Statis’ Ninja Belt at the same time as Amalgamated Brain or Cherished Sealocket)

[grim swallow]

I actually dont think anything becomes available at this point

Also this is my slime god build, I really dont want to go full bulk but maybe I will have to reforge all to warding

[smoky dock]

At LEAST go warding

Warding is like, the #1 item on the list for any build that wants survivability

[radiant cradle]

hmm i kinda like amalgamated brain so ig i'll try it out, thanks!

[dusky ingot]

Do you guys know how a sword is made? They beat it over and over again, and they don't stop until it's hard

The same happened to me - I've spent many hours on Infernum Calamitas getting beaten and taken advantage of

[grim swallow]

The thing is
My brain cant comprehend playing through bulk, I dont want to be basically immortal

[dusky ingot]

Desperation phase was my furnace, and the Supreme Witch was the blacksmith

[smoky dock]

until you get to the REALLY fucked up items like Sponge, a full suite of Warding outperforms any given defensive accessory

[smoky dock]

That’s fine, go Warding and keep the same setup

[dusky ingot]

She and her brothers beat me, and beat me, and beat me until one attempt... I just got hard

[smoky dock]

You won’t lose much power but your margin of error will widen appreciably

[dusky ingot]

I learned a lot about myself that time, and I would love to try that fight again

But I'm too scared

[grim swallow]

Okay I will reforge all to warding tomorrow

I am melee and melee is tank and shit

[smoky dock]

brother what the hell are you talking about

[smoky dock]

nah, not true
tank builds = warding and a zillion defensive accessories

class is irrelevant to whether or not a setup is “tank” or not

[grim swallow]

Yeah

But I am not getting billion defense on any non melee class

[smoky dock]

yeah you can

[grim swallow]

Melee is supposed to be tanky and shit

I can but I refuse to

[wicked creek]

Where are the hero's swords obtained from?

[smoky dock]

okay fair i guess

[smoky dock]

Broken ones are dropped by Mothrons post-Plantera

[grim swallow]

Fighting dog aith 52 defense is funny

[smoky dock]

dont

[wicked creek]

Then I had bad luck , killed 3 of them and no drop

[grim swallow]

And shrooms

[dusky ingot]

I think it's like 25%?

[grim swallow]

Maximum dps builds are extremely funny

[dusky ingot]

Or something like that

[gloomy wedge]

anyone know if cnidrion has reworked spawning mechanics in infernum

or can i just camp the surface desert and find one

[grim swallow]

"nuh uh scal you are not getting to do your second phase attacks it's being skipped"

[grim swallow]

I had seen them there

[dusky ingot]

I think spawns normally

[grim swallow]

Both in base inf and ccr

[dusky ingot]

But you might have other addons that change that I'd guess

If they aren't spawning

Maybe overhaul could change it?

[grim swallow]

They are rare

[dapper breach]

why is the world shaking after defeating devourer of gods? playing infernum wrath of the gods multiplayer

[gloomy wedge]

yabba dee yabba die motherfucker

[gloomy wedge]

wrath of the gods multiplayer
this is probably why anything weird happens

[dusky ingot]

Wait, why you had to unlock gold and platinum?

What addon does that?

[fading dove]

one of them

[gloomy wedge]

ccr

i assume any wacky shit is always ccr

[cedar ridge]

is infernum plantera super tanky or are my brimseekers ass

[dusky ingot]

Yes

[random shell]

my hellavator has gone through this place and it wont allow me to break it, any ideas on what to do

[dusky ingot]

RoD

Also why'd you use an instant hellevator in a place with an important structure?

[random shell]

i forgot infernum added that

its been awhile since iv done it

[vernal night]

so thats how you break those blocks

[dusky ingot]

Also, I think most half-decent mods make it so it doesn't break the blocks of important structures

Though might be wrong

[gloomy wedge]

luiafk doesnt

anyways i probably should avoid touching that

[dusky ingot]

As I said, half-decent

[dusky ingot]

No it seems like great loot

[fading dove]

this is true mutant mod has an overly safe option where shit doesnt even touch underground cabins

[random shell]

cheers that worked

[gloomy wedge]

oh shit ccr has tainted potions?

wait these are actually really cool

i like these what the hell

[obtuse minnow]

any alcohols i should be using for melee infernum?

[dusky ingot]

Fentanyl

[obtuse minnow]

thats not an alcohol gangalang brochacho nerd

[gloomy wedge]

purple haze + moscow mule

[dusky ingot]

Korea

[obtuse minnow]

south or north

[dusky ingot]

Worchestershire

[obtuse minnow]

thx

[obtuse minnow]

and should there be a third?

[dusky ingot]

Middle

[dusky ingot]

I like the one that works during daytime

[wicked creek]

Oh i think that's hydrogen

[gloomy wedge]

indeed it is

post-duke, apparently

[tall musk]

how to use profaned shard

im at the far right of underworld

it does nothing

[smoky dock]

You need to use it in a specific spot

[fading dove]

are you standing on the cliff

[smoky dock]

Specifically on the cliff on the left side of the Profaned Garden

[tall musk]

oh

got it

[elder nebula]

the cliff above where the wayfinder was

[tall musk]

geez

[grim swallow]

Also

Why is warding so broken

Yet its the only reforge to be buffed during the run

If warding gets to 7 defense make menacing get to at least 6

[smoky dock]

Warding works by adding Defense

[night fractal]

because all the others scale naturally

[smoky dock]

Defense is a flat decrease to incoming damage

[gloomy wedge]

remember when warding was considered shit

man times have changed

[smoky dock]

Damage values increase but the efficacy of defense does not

[night fractal]

4% of 10 dmg is +0.4 damage, while 4% of 1000 is +40 damage

[smoky dock]

^

[grim swallow]

Fair ig

But still why is warding so op

[night fractal]

4 defense is always -2 damage taken, whether the attack deals 3 or 3000

[elder nebula]

i'm blaming fabsol

[grim swallow]

I have seen people go full warding and be halfway to immortal

[night fractal]

because it was already OP in vanilla without scaling

[smoky dock]

Decreasing incoming damage means you can take more hits using the same amount of HP, and simultaneously reduces the amount of time it takes to recover from a hit

[night fractal]

Plus Calamity gives way more defense

And Defense becomes more valuable the more you have

[smoky dock]

Warding is like, what, 20 DEF total in pre-hardmode?

[grim swallow]

Yeah

[gloomy wedge]

yeah +20 def

[grim swallow]

24 if on master

[gloomy wedge]

its the majority of your bulk pre-hm

[tepid ruin]

So who in these damn abyss changes drops the herring staff?

[smoky dock]

Damage values tend to be low in pre-hardmode

[grim swallow]

Yeah if I go full warding rn I will have more defense pre slime god than I had on summoner pre dog

[median kiln]

if warding is the best apex modifier, whats the wrost apex modifier

[smoky dock]

Arcane

[elder nebula]

arcane

[median kiln]

arcane doenst cuont

[smoky dock]

technically nothing drops it
You obtain it by catching a Herring using a Bug Net

[tepid ruin]

wow, ain't that something

[grim swallow]

To be fair all modifiers except warding lucky silent and maybe menacing are shit

Show me a build where they use violent

Or the one for speed

[night fractal]

no, violent is also very good

[tepid ruin]

...where the heck does a herring appear

[smoky dock]

Violent
But only like, half the time. The other half it's like, equivalent to Rage. One (1) Violent is Rage

[night fractal]

Violent is actually stronger than Lucky or Menacing

Usually

[grim swallow]

Wow

[night fractal]

It's just so much more niche in what it works on

[tepid ruin]

Also, as for modifiers, silent if you aren't a rogue, and lucky if you are a summoner

[elder nebula]

check pins

[smoky dock]

Violent is great, I love violent

[night fractal]

If I was to rank the reforges

[wicked creek]

H u h

[fading dove]

warding the best best modifier for nohits

trust

[wicked creek]

This would have been nice to know

[grim swallow]

Also is there any way to increase the range of spears

[wicked creek]

The titan glove line

[smoky dock]

melee size

[grim swallow]

In pre hardmode

[tepid ruin]

Althought I guess "crit is worthless for summoner" is no longer even entirely a thing

[night fractal]

Warding
Quick
Menacing
Lucky
Silent
Violent
Arcane

this is what I'd rate them

[grim swallow]

Because I want to do high sausage maker dps but its the size of my brain

[smoky dock]

but due to the way spears work, spears don't do much at the edge of their range

[night fractal]

Menacing is above lucky solely because of summoner and especially summoner multiclass, otherwise lucky would win

[smoky dock]

spears deal more damage the closer you are to the bad guy
Spears do extremely poor damage at the edge of their range

[grim swallow]

Actually the worst modifiers are the 1% ones

[grim swallow]

Really?

Never knew that

[smoky dock]

Spears' damage output increases linearly with how close you are to the bad guy

[wicked creek]

Essentially the closer you are the more times the hitbox hits them

[median kiln]

why does warding specifically get buffed

[night fractal]

This is no longer true of proboscis sorry

[smoky dock]

Spears are basically just a lingering hitbox that slowly moves forwards and back

[night fractal]

in 2.1

[median kiln]

why not the other apex modifiers

[grim swallow]

Ohh yeah

[smoky dock]

yeah I'm referring to the vanilla use style

[wicked creek]

Used to be kinda bad

[night fractal]

All the other ones except Arcane scale naturally with your progression

4% of 10 dmg is less than 4% of 200

[smoky dock]

If the hitbox stays on top of the bad guy for a longer period of time, you can hit more times per stab

[grim swallow]

I thought you meant like spears literally get more damage as the stat not as the more hits

[wicked creek]

In general a long time ago, everyone liked being glass cannons and using very little defensive stuff , so it got warding buffed

[smoky dock]

That's why Gilded Proboscis was so strong in my guardians speedkills. It hit once every four frames despite the weapon VISUALLY taking WAY longer than four frames to conclude the attack animation

[gloomy wedge]

violent is good, its just a headache to figure out

when its like marginally better than lucky/menacing

or you can just use warding instead and be better than all three

[smoky dock]

feral~1

no misinformation

[night fractal]

I know it's good in its niche, but this is an overall ranking

[wicked creek]

Ah but consider

Big numbers/orange numbers/hitting really fast makes dopamine rise

[night fractal]

Violent is useful on like 10% of weapons at best

[smoky dock]

^

[grim swallow]

Also when do true melee weapons start idk exploding thr sun or sum dhit

I do NOT see the good dps

[night fractal]

Quick is the one people are sleeping on

[smoky dock]

approximately when the world finishes generating

[gloomy wedge]

quick is pretty cool

[night fractal]

Quick + angel treads + harpy wings is

So stupid

[gloomy wedge]

i remember when that shit was 8% movement speed

[fading dove]

subshocker and drage are the best examples of tmelee being funny

[smoky dock]

Unfortunately pre-hardmode true melee kinda sux because boss AI is generally unfriendly to true melee

[wicked creek]

Well, it depends

Dark lance is insane , submarine shocker is downright silly, etc

[night fractal]

Move Speed actually double scales in calamity for wings when you are wearing boots

And once it's high enough

[grim swallow]

Well most pre hardmode inf bosses love staying in fucking africa during the fight

[smoky dock]

In hardmode it's a decent bit better because boss AI is generally more friendly to true melee

[night fractal]

I should make a good prehardmode true melee weapon

and by that I mean buff wulfrum Screwdriver

[wicked creek]

Dark lance:

[smoky dock]

not possible unless you make it, like, The Debuff Weapon

[grim swallow]

Yeah because I do not like chasing bosses

[smoky dock]

Unless you make it a Fischer-Price Hellkite

[night fractal]

Gilded Proboscis but scaled down would be great

[grim swallow]

The only bosses that didnt shit in my mouth by making me chase them were deerclops and ccr guys

[smoky dock]

please make this 🥺

either that or make the wulfrum screwdriver's screw comboable

[night fractal]

comboable how

like it bounces off the enemy and can be hit again?

that sounds so cool

[grim swallow]

Like coins from ultrakill

[smoky dock]

imagine like, when you hit the baddie, the screw bounces back and you can hit it again. Then you gotta play fuckin tennis

[grim swallow]

Throw a lot up hit the other ones they go kaboom

[smoky dock]

Make the auto-aim less friendly per successful hit so it's harder to keep working

[night fractal]

You can only get one screw

[wicked creek]

Crabulon and king slime should have been pretty much not different at all from normal fighting NGL

Both encourage careful movement and staying close

In infernum

[grim swallow]

Yeah

[night fractal]

I should just let it ricoshoot off coins

[grim swallow]

King slime was easier than usually tbh

Cuz I love to be far away

[smoky dock]

Alternatively make it keep working the same way, except a successful screw hit will always refund your screw, but this recycled screw will disappear in ~1s

[wicked creek]

Wait what about accessory that makes true melee weapon below a certain speed be able to reflect projectiles

[grim swallow]

But yeah crab was the same except longer

[dusky ingot]

Okay guys, I found the fix for Nekopara vol. 1 stuttering - for me, the game normally ran at single-core on my CPU, which made it lag, but if you go into advanced settings you can change it to multi-core there and it doesn't lag

[grim swallow]

Because crabulon has dr to true melee

[night fractal]

That's a terrible idea for balancing and for cross mod compatibility

[smoky dock]

inf Crabulon's tmelee resist was removed

[grim swallow]

And adrenaline and rage are nerfed for true melee

[night fractal]

and goes against the entire idea of true melee anyway

[grim swallow]

Oh really

Either way crab is a long fight

[smoky dock]

(good fucking riddance. do ravager next pls javz)

[grim swallow]

I never had a quick fight with him

[night fractal]

part of me wants to make Galileo Gladius into submarine shocker 2

[dusky ingot]

Ravager is in the top3 worst calamity bosses imo

It's such a bad boss

[gloomy wedge]

im liking how this is looking so far ngl

[smoky dock]

that would be so funny but the more i think about subshocker the less of a good idea i think it is

for DoG, OD and Polterghast I think it could work

[night fractal]

oh subshocker is a super bad idea

[dusky ingot]

Especially the old versions of basecal ravager which basically just despawned all the time

So you had to chase its jumps

[night fractal]

I still have no idea what I wanna do for Galileo Gladius tbh

[smoky dock]

maybe it could be like... an energy hammer

[night fractal]

But there's already plenty of true melee options on the tier so it'll probably be projectile

[dusky ingot]

Umm some defense debuff?

[grim swallow]

Tho I actually need to watch a slime god true melee no hit

[wicked creek]

Maybe like a long distance slow stab of something

[night fractal]

then it loses the pun for the name

[smoky dock]

maybe it has a slow-ish attack where it grapples a planet from space, pulls it down, and slams it in front

[night fractal]

and also more sprites

[grim swallow]

I dont understand it at all for true melee (tho again the problem is the extra asshole)

[night fractal]

oh wait

[smoky dock]

[night fractal]

chain knife could be cool wait

I can cook with that

[smoky dock]

i know of a true melee nohit slime god for the infernum

[gloomy wedge]

anyone know some blocks thatd fit with the general aesthetic of magic storage

[wicked creek]

I guess like, after they do the synchronized jump attack thing, When they stand still

God help you for the core phase

[wicked creek]

Palm wood

[smoky dock]

uhhhh

[grim swallow]

Lemme actually see if there is an infernum ccr no hit

[night fractal]

I'd just have to make sure it's very distinct from crescent moon

[smoky dock]

i have no earthly idea what the hell chain knife or crescent moon are

OOH you know what could be fun? just for funny? spiritual successor to Cnidarian

[night fractal]

crescent moon is the Stratus solar Eruption ripoff

[smoky dock]

what the hell are you talking about

[gloomy wedge]

flails? i guess?

[night fractal]

which is becoming a real flail

[gloomy wedge]

where are the cal flails anyways

[night fractal]

Instead of lame solar eruption

[gloomy wedge]

there are like 0

[smoky dock]

you gotta manually move the mouse to slam a physics object into the bad guy repeatedly

[grim swallow]

God help me get to the core phase I have a nerfed crimulan slime from goozma in the fight alongside the og slime gods

[smoky dock]

that just sounds funny to fuck with

[wicked creek]

Does CCR even work with infernum

[grim swallow]

So far yes

[gloomy wedge]

ccr doesnt work

[night fractal]

Galileo Gladius but you can throw the knife on a constellation chain to stick into enemies and then pull it back in, launching you towards the enemy

[gloomy wedge]

well, it does, but you'd wish it doesnt

[night fractal]

would be fun

[grim swallow]

Chlorine paladin exists and attacks

[smoky dock]

yeah that sounds cool

[dusky ingot]

Wood?

[grim swallow]

"every 60 seconds an hour in the abyss passes"
Fanny

[night fractal]

oh my goodness what if hooking into enemies was like a mix of Byleth up-b in smash and Ori bash

that would be so peak

[smoky dock]

YEAH

Also makes it a viable mobility tool/support option, even for non-melee

[night fractal]

AND I get another byleth weapon

[smoky dock]

Which is 100% of the time a good idea

[dusky ingot]

AI never fails to amaze

[night fractal]

I'm gonna cook so hard on Galileo Gladius

[smoky dock]

Wow I love AI it's so helpful. I support AI production. I hope it does more amazing things in the future, such as play my video games and do my hobbies so it can save me time to do what I really love doing, like taking out the garbage, washing the dishes, and cleaning my house

[tepid ruin]

Okay, those herrings are definitely red because they don't freaking exist

[smoky dock]

RAEWL

okay so I can offer some advice for spotting them:

[tepid ruin]

Maybe I'll need to settle the abyss to up the critter rate or someshit

[grim swallow]

Also I know what I should try for slime god before getting full warding

Potions and buffs

[tepid ruin]

Okay, caught one

fucking hell

[smoky dock]

1. They are highlighted as green by Hunter potions.
2. They use the same spawning algorithm as enemies and bound NPCs since they're critters. Increasing spawn spawn rates will make them spawn more.
3. They are at the bottom of the abyssal food chain, so most other abyssal creatures will attack and kill them.
4. Research the algorithm to learn how to make spawn attempts succeed more often

oh