calamity-addon-talk

[lyric kiln]

I remember because it's a baby Midas Prime

getting good with Crackshot Colt and Midas Prime is so fun btw

you just get really good at plinking all your coins into the air at once and firing at them

and it's basically "homing"

since the coin bounce makes the bullet track really aggressively

even just a single coin rebound gives you perfect tracking and insane damage per shot

only issue is you'd need to somehow acquire a Blood Orb and Stormlion Mandible without a weapon

[pure sand]

Hey so struggling on exo mechs infernum im using perditus kalei and the lunic eye upgrade as weapons. This is my setup how can i improve this guy is hard for me. full menacing rn and using 2 slots for liles, 3 for mechworm, 5 for kalandra mirror and 5 for slime cane from HOTOG mod.

[lyric kiln]

if you're going for a pure version of the restriction

[fading dove]

needs more warding

7 warding to be exact

[lyric kiln]

at a certain point the only real option for Exo Mechs is "don't get hit by the vast majority of the damage"

[vapid blaze]

nah nah

[pure sand]

ok

[vapid blaze]

not warding

or menacing

go LUCKY

[spare summit]

Warding is broken

[little steppe]

ah yes

[pure sand]

are my weapons good

[little steppe]

lucky for the summoner

[lyric kiln]

the weapon selection mainly matters for "are you dealing good enough damage to enemies"

[vapid blaze]

oh ur a summoner

L

[fading dove]

no idea how good slime cane is

[pure sand]

seems good

[little steppe]

I think its one of the op goozma weps

[pure sand]

doesnt feel op

but better than chicken nugget

im using

[little steppe]

compared to other goozma weapons its giga broken

[spare summit]

You can also use metastasis which I think is supposedly really good

Never used it

[little steppe]

not really good me thinks

just good

[pure sand]

not listed on like any guides p sure its kinda buns

[vapid blaze]

try using a Minishark

[spare summit]

Too op

[little steppe]

what guides are u using

[pure sand]

dude i trna have a fair balanced experience chill

[little steppe]

you should be using a guide

[pure sand]

the cal one

on wiki

whats max buff slots for cal

[fading dove]

44

its unchanged from vanilla

[vapid blaze]

u guys use buffs?

[fading dove]

eh

its alright

[spare summit]

But compared to pre scal pre exo weapons?

[pure sand]

one of my qol mods uncaps that should i uhh revert that

[smoky dock]

i'll use flask of acid venom until the day i die

[fading dove]

its not gonna change a ton

[little steppe]

lillies sweep

[pure sand]

fr

mirro too

[spare summit]

Yeah but you only get 2

[vapid blaze]

what is that? how do u get it?

[fading dove]

there's pretty much no possible way to reach 55 without boozemaxxing

[vapid blaze]

i'm down all 3 mechs on infernum, only buff i use is Shine Potion

[smoky dock]

it is a vanilla item that has existed since ancient times

[spare summit]

Venom got renamed to acid venom btw

[smoky dock]

you can craft it using the crafting station and ingredient from the best boy

[vapid blaze]

ancient times?

[pure sand]

i feel cheaty

[spare summit]

1.2

[vapid blaze]

i dont remember that when i was killing Skeletron with a Fiery Greatsword

[vapid blaze]

1.2? thats pretty recent

only like 5 years ago right

[fading dove]

sanae_what

[spare summit]

2012 💀

[vapid blaze]

oh so 6-7 years ago

[pure sand]

yall67

[vapid blaze]

right?

[smoky dock]

It was 16 years ago

[vapid blaze]

._.

i'm old

[spare summit]

I first started playing before 1.1 and it still feels old

[vapid blaze]

same

i remember when Fiery Greatsword was the best weapon in the game

[smoky dock]

i just really like flask of acid venom

[lyric kiln]

After beating the "Very Slow or slower bullet-firing non-shotgun weapons" challenge, I then naturally did its counterpart, the "10 or lower use time guns" challenge

that was the easiest "challenge run" I've ever done

turns out super low use time guns isn't so much a restriction as it is just some of the best guns in the game at every tier

and getting to start with the Minishark is ridiculous

[fading dove]

you've been playing since a month after release?

[pure sand]

is unlimited buff slots cheating

[lyric kiln]

as for age, I remember back when Hardmode didn't exist yet, so that would have been, what? 1.1?

ah, 1.0

[vapid blaze]

fiery greatsword was goated for all of 1.0

[lyric kiln]

since Hardmode was added in 1.1

[fading dove]

night's edge was introduced in 1.0.5 which was slightly more than a month after 1.0 dropped

[vapid blaze]

night's edge was also worse than fiery greatsword

[lyric kiln]

1.0 was back when Terraria was still "2d Minecraft", rather than "boss fight simulator with building/crafting components"

I mean, it's still kind of both

[vapid blaze]

the only weapon that was actually better than Fiery Greatsword was the Star Cannon but like, who was farming stars xD

[smoky dock]

on one hand, yeah it objectively is
on the other hand, like, what the hell are you doing to get more than 44 buffs

[lyric kiln]

I did use unlimited buff slots during my "at most one of each minion" challenge

[pure sand]

..

[lyric kiln]

since otherwise it'd have gotten quickly very broken

[smoky dock]

What the hell

[fading dove]

there's a lot of unneeded buffs there

[lyric kiln]

first off, use Omnistation

[smoky dock]

I guess if you think the gills potion is so necessary then you can keep that

[pure sand]

loll\

[lyric kiln]

second off, this is why I use AlchNPC lite, almost exclusively for the combination potions

[smoky dock]

And besides, you're only seven buffs over 44

[lyric kiln]

kids these days don't understand the days pre-1.4 when it was impossible to expand the buff slots by any means

[pure sand]

yea and theyre ones i dont need

[smoky dock]

Just pick 7 buffs you don't need, disable them, and you're done. No need for more buff slots

[pure sand]

so might as well js keep inf buff

[lyric kiln]

so you just had to work with 22 max buffs ever

[smoky dock]

Infinite buffs make me sad though 🥺

[cedar laurel]

This could blocks some projectiles

[pure sand]

what happens if i get temp buff like silva immunity

[pure sand]

huh

[fading dove]

like dangersense, hunter, gills, mining, shine, spelunker, obsidian skin, warmth, inferno, effigy of decay, thorns, magic power since you're a summoner, sulphurskin, flipper

[lyric kiln]

here's what I've got going on right now

[smoky dock]

I have no clue. I've never hit the buff cap.

[lyric kiln]

honestly that's kind of high

[smoky dock]

me during argus and kinda also rippers

[cedar laurel]

shoutout to whatever hide infinite buffs feature was from

[smoky dock]

and I'm literally cheating

[pure sand]

yea but y not js keep cus im not gonna js enable some depending on scenario thats dumb

[smoky dock]

Look how many pets I have!

[lyric kiln]

but yeah, playing minions with the old 22 buff cap was always kind of silly, because debuffs would push out your removable buffs

[smoky dock]

then go without them FOREVER

[pure sand]

y not keep

[smoky dock]

dangersense, hunter, and and spelunker are all made 100% irrelevant

[fading dove]

sulphurskin doesn't do much since you're just gonna ignore the water anyways

[smoky dock]

It wastes space on your bar

[lyric kiln]

so you had to remove as many unnecessary buffs as possible to prevent enemy debuffs from removing your minions

[smoky dock]

Omniscience combines all three effects in addition to adding more!

Warmth does not apply to all projectiles, and none of them are dangerous at that stage

[pure sand]

i could hide the infinite ones

[vapid blaze]

u could also just not use buffs lol

[smoky dock]

Mining is irrelevant as Calamity's mining speed cap is a thing

[pure sand]

huh

[smoky dock]

Thorns is pretty weak

[lyric kiln]

but yeah, if you really want all the utility buffs at all times, use AlchNPC Lite

[pure sand]

nah prisma pp goat

[smoky dock]

I guess you could do that, the combination potions are a combined one slot

PPP is pretty cool though...

[lyric kiln]

I'll have to check that out at some point

I've never tried it

[pure sand]

just better balanced alch npc

like no unfair shit

[lyric kiln]

to be fair most of the unfair shit in AlchNPC, aka "Non-Calamity Buff Potions", can just be toggled off in the config

[cedar laurel]

Ram dash potion when

[lyric kiln]

dunno why it's true by default, but yeah

[pure sand]

key word most

[smoky dock]

i know that I control the buttons that I press and I can just not use the blurring potion or whatever it's called

But I do not want to look at them

[lyric kiln]

honestly the only thing I can think of that's left is just the Bewitching Potion

which isn't really unfair

[smoky dock]

is Dryad's Blessing there?

Greater Dangersense is a funny one

[lyric kiln]

nah that's a non-calamity buff potion

[smoky dock]

exo mechs greenifier

[night fractal]

chat what's the thought on aero stone

[lyric kiln]

yeah Bewitching is the only one left

[smoky dock]

50 bonus flight time and recover flight time whilst not flying?

[night fractal]

yea

recover it at 25% the rate it's consumed iirc

[smoky dock]

I think the method of obtaining it is dumb and stupid and should be fixed, and I think it needs to be made a little more... interesting I guess

[night fractal]

hear me out

aero stone is broken

[smoky dock]

It just feels redundant. If I want more flight time I have a few other options for that

[lyric kiln]

Aero Stone is fun, gives you some ridiculous amounts of flight time, but the fact that it doesn't do anything else and doesn't have upgrades is unfortunate

[night fractal]

unless you're playing true melee then you fly forever

[cedar laurel]

How many stones accessories are there

[smoky dock]

aero stone... cryo stone...

[night fractal]

aero stone is stronger than any of the other ones even just off 50 flight time

[night fractal]

Aero, Cryo, Chaos, Bloom

[cedar laurel]

Bloom stone

[smoky dock]

I don't care if it's STRONGER

[night fractal]

maybe one more

[smoky dock]

I care that it's BOOOOORING

[night fractal]

it's not boring

Recovering flight time mid air has two sources

[smoky dock]

👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎

[night fractal]

Aero stone and soaring potion

[fading dove]

fun fact: thats actually an intended inf exos thing

https://youtu.be/hWbDKeeJy0k

its an enrage

[lyric kiln]

the thing is, it's not a fast enough recovery to actually give "infinite flight time"

[smoky dock]

that's beautiful

[night fractal]

I think you're just soaring pot privileged smh

[night fractal]

It actually us

With starboard

[lyric kiln]

it's very nice, but restricts your movement in the air if you want to make good use of it

[smoky dock]

exo mechs greenifier <3

[night fractal]

starboard can tap fly forever if you hold UP while doing it

With aero stone

[smoky dock]

submit a defiled nohit with it

[night fractal]

uh

[smoky dock]

because 'celestial starboard isn't wings dumbass'

[night fractal]

so true

[lyric kiln]

I mean, sure I guess, but honestly I'd rather just reset flight by landing briefly

it's not like that's that big of an imposition

[night fractal]

This was my death DoG dashless nohit in dev build

aero stone carried so hard

[smoky dock]

eugch

rtn

[night fractal]

what else would I have used

[smoky dock]

warbanner of the sun if you weren't a COWARD

or like

idk the insignia that empress drops?

[night fractal]

warbanner is reworked in dev and idk how i feel about it

[night fractal]

I had that before I swapped to aero stone and starboard

when I was using elysian wings

[smoky dock]

tell me about it......

[night fractal]

my accel was too high with no decel

so I swapped to starboard

[smoky dock]

oh yeah that's fair i suppose

[night fractal]

And then could drop Insignia for Aero Stone bc I needed more flight time

[vapid blaze]

when should i fight empress on infernum?

[fading dove]

post golem

[vapid blaze]

those infinite flight wings look juice

[fading dove]

same as normal

[smoky dock]

Sometime between Golem and Lunatic Cultist

[smoky dock]

[night fractal]

It was great bc I needed super good accel for dashless dog

but laser walls were so bad

[vapid blaze]

idk what normal is bcuz ive never fought empress b4

[smoky dock]

then it's sometime between Golem and Lunatic Cultist

[night fractal]

but uh

Wanna see another viable nohit build by sunny

it's cursed

[smoky dock]

YEAH

[smoky dock]

i think my nohit builds are pretty cursed too

YEAAAAHHHH

[night fractal]

also if I was being optimal

[vapid blaze]

i wanna see a yeshit build

[lyric kiln]

I gotta say, I feel like small consistent heals like Chlorophyte Armour get a bad rap. Like yeah, it's only like 5-10 hp per heal, that's not a huge amount, but you get it every 5 seconds. 10 hp every 5 seconds is functionally 2 hp/sec healing, that's what the Palladium Healing buff gives. And it's unaffected by Rev+ healing scaling.

[night fractal]

I would have swapped Affliction for Eye of the Golem

I totally forgot EotG existed

[cedar laurel]

Is that storm weaver

[smoky dock]

I'm so down with this build hell ueah

[fading dove]

scaling is getting removed yknow

[lyric kiln]

is it?

[night fractal]

Yea

[lyric kiln]

Well, I'm playing in the world I'm currently in

[night fractal]

but chloro has to compete with hallowed armor

And uh

[smoky dock]

It's getting removed but it's not removed yet

[lyric kiln]

but also, even then 2 hp/sec is very nice

[night fractal]

That's just not a fair fight

[smoky dock]

chlorophyte has to compete with molsk

[night fractal]

Hallowed Armor is so stupid

[smoky dock]

and frost

[lyric kiln]

Hallowed is very strong yeah

[smoky dock]

and adamantite... and squire and monk

[lyric kiln]

but I'm playing a Regen Build 💪

[night fractal]

Hallowed is part of a viable build on exos

[lyric kiln]

no wait

[night fractal]

It's that crazy

[lyric kiln]

Regen Build 🫀

[vapid blaze]

is hallowed good for a mage? i just killed my last mech

[night fractal]

Hallowed is always good

[smoky dock]

hallowed armor is like, fine

[cedar laurel]

Gng does it work with fathom swarmer

[lyric kiln]

Hallowed gives a dodge

[smoky dock]

i don't like it because it has the opportunity cost of not using mollusk

[night fractal]

Free dodge ever 30 seconds that stacks with other dodges

[lyric kiln]

that's its thing

it lets you not get hit

[vapid blaze]

brain of cthlulu dodge?

[lyric kiln]

when you would have gotten hit

[smoky dock]

if I don't use mollusk then how else can i assert dominance over people who are allergic to shellfish

[smoky dock]

it functions a bit differently but yeah

Since they're legally NOT the same mechanic, they stack with each other and don't share a cooldown

[lyric kiln]

anyways Chlorophyte works well with Palladium Enchantment

so clearly that's why I'm using it smh

[cedar laurel]

Reaver enchantment soon

[lyric kiln]

oh hey, yeah, I hadn't looked ahead at that yet but that's definitely in my build

actually how much regen does it actually give

[cedar laurel]

15 with wizard enchantment boosting it I heard

[lyric kiln]

15/sec?

wild

[pale pivot]

does anyone know a class tier list for infernum and all the other calamity mod?

[cedar laurel]

Summoner

[smoky dock]

the answer is that summoner is on top and everything else is subjective

[pale pivot]

a friend of mine is doing summoner so i dont want to have a duplicate class

[lyric kiln]

I've been told multiple times that Mage is the worst, but it's still good

[pale pivot]

but its just one friend playing with me

[lyric kiln]

it just has, like, identity issues

[cedar laurel]

mage is great on DoG I remember

[vapid blaze]

Melee > Mage > Rogue > Ranger > Summoner

[pale pivot]

imo i dont like mage in any games

[smoky dock]

Classes are so... i guess diverse in and of themselves that just trying to quantify the entire class and categorize it among others is hard

[vapid blaze]

tier list for style & flashiness

[pale pivot]

oh

[smoky dock]

It's not fair to say X is good or bad and leave it at that

[vapid blaze]

which is clearly the most important factor

[lyric kiln]

Rogue is notable for having the least weapons in the game though

[smoky dock]

Just pick what you think is neat. Or, even better, don't pick a class at all and just roll with whatever you find

[pale pivot]

people say ranger does no dmage is that true?

[lyric kiln]

so that's something to note at least

Ranger is busted strong

very good

and very easy to play as well

[smoky dock]

I hate rang*r but that's for personal reasons

[vapid blaze]

ranger is kinda boring

[pale pivot]

aight i will do melee again

[vapid blaze]

most your weapons are bows or guns that shoot the same way

[smoky dock]

It's perfectly serviceable just like everything else

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893924166925955104/1268262256693612554/trueMeleeLocket.gif

[pale pivot]

hell nah thats too hard for me lol

[lyric kiln]

as far as how easy they are to play, I'd go:
Summoner (played poorly)
Ranger
Summoner (played well)
Melee
Mage
Rogue
Melee (True)

[pale pivot]

alr ty

[lyric kiln]

though I guess Rogue is pretty easy if you're not using stealth strikes

[smoky dock]

Rogue and true melee I'd totally agree are the more complicated classes to play

[vapid blaze]

rogue is pretty easy if you ignore stealth :D

[smoky dock]

Rogue imo is really unintuitive. On paper it WORKS. In practice it WORKS. It's fantastic if you know what you're doing. But the process of LEARNING what to do is tougher than usual, and playing rogue wrong HURTS. More than usual.

[lyric kiln]

if I had to split up Rogue (Stealth) vs Rogue (Spam), I'd probably put Rogue Spam right below melee

[pale pivot]

should i play with fargos souls mod infernum?

[smoky dock]

No, they're not compatible

[pale pivot]

not even with the crossover dlc thingy

[lyric kiln]

since Rogue (spam) has less homing options

[vapid blaze]

i kinda wanna make a 2nd infernum playthrough with melee because there's so many sick melee weapons

[lyric kiln]

but yeah, Fargo's Soul Mod DLC grants compatibility specifically with base Calamity and Wrath of the Gods

it explicitly does not work when combined with Infernum

[pale pivot]

ohhhh

ok

[cedar laurel]

Every single Infernum boss when precision seal walk in

[gloomy wedge]

On the bright side spam rogue is absolutely brainless

I love that shit for hardcore

You just go like

Tracking disk Kelvin catalyst

[smoky dock]

also note that infernum bosses in souls are like, dramatically weaker than they should

[pale pivot]

is the modpack thingy out now for terraria?

[cold jacinth]

is there a way in calamity to get like a quick hallowed key?

[pale pivot]

also do i play with calamity overhaul mod?

[cedar laurel]

No

[pale pivot]

ok

[smoky dock]

No

[lyric kiln]

yeah, the Wrath of the Gods "compatibility" is purely just a balance pass to make the WotG bosses have the way higher stats needed to be competitive with endgame Calamity + Souls gear

[smoky dock]

No

[pale pivot]

alright

[lyric kiln]

Calamity + Souls gets nutty towards the end

[smoky dock]

Not to my knowledge. Best you can do is the classic method with calamity items

[gloomy wedge]

Souls is insane post ml in general

I love how [BALANCED] and [FAIR] forces are

[lyric kiln]

since Calamity has some ridiculously powerful weapons and armour, but more restrained accessories, while Souls has ridiculously overpowered accessories, but like no weapons or armour

[gloomy wedge]

I love the heart of the master having quite literally every good accessory ever conceived

[cedar laurel]

Can’t believe they didn’t nerf nature champion hp in dlc

[lyric kiln]

I gotta be honest, I have no respect for the champions

craft the enchantments yourself coward

you're not getting the full experience if you're not crafting every single component by hand

[lyric kiln]

I did that back in 1.3, when the DLC included, like

5 mods?

[gloomy wedge]

I like them because it means we’ll be getting more pre-ml fargos fights

I really hope we get a fun version of shadow champ next

[lyric kiln]

Calamity, Thorium, Dragon Ball Terraria, uh...

some mod with, like, purple shit

Shadows of Abaddon, that's the one

[pale pivot]

should i play infernum with the master mode patch>

[cedar laurel]

Nah

[pale pivot]

alr

[lyric kiln]

I think there was a fifth one

but I forget what it was

[pale pivot]

later ill send the collection if you want to see what mods ima play with cause i dont really know whats good or not

[obtuse minnow]

I refuse Im going to kill the champions

[smoky dock]

No

The master mode patch doesn't actually do anything

[pale pivot]

oh

[smoky dock]

It just lifts the restriction which normally stops you

[lyric kiln]

The Master Mode patch purely enables the ability to toggle Master Mode, but does nothing whatsoever to solve all the myriad issues it causes

[smoky dock]

^

[lyric kiln]

so it's less a patch and more of a bypass

[smoky dock]

It's like painting over a DO NOT ENTER sign

[pale pivot]

lol

[lyric kiln]

it's like breaking into the old shut down steel mill

you can do it, but it's nobodies fault but your own if you fall into a pile of rusty metal scraps and get stabbed through the cheek

[wispy topaz]

do i have to fight prov in here??

or does it come out

[pale pivot]

i wond do that next

[cedar laurel]

go deeper

There’s a ladder

[pale pivot]

i have never seen calamity entropy do i add it?

[smoky dock]

No, keep going further inside

That's just decorative. Neat, right?

[wispy topaz]

i see

[fading dove]

styx armour is a very significant source of damage during mutant and nekomi's axe is pretty much banned in ceg and smg because it skips phases

[pale pivot]

and Calamity: Community Remix

[lyric kiln]

oh hey, nvm, I was wrong

I assumed the Angel Treads and Celestial Tracers were more of sidegrades to the Souls Mod boots, despite being included in the crafting tree

[cedar laurel]

That’s a meme mod

[daring willow]

oedjsbaasbdeosgdabjsagdeo

https://medal.tv/games/terraria/clips/kLZm6pkSU8OpqWFM5?invite=cr-MSxGTU8sMjEzMDc1MTE3

[pale pivot]

o

[fading dove]

how much do you like the fandom wiki

[pale pivot]

i love it

[daring willow]

WHY TF ARE THE PLATFORMS GOING INVIS LIKE THAT

THEY PHASE OUT OF EXISTENCE

[lyric kiln]

but turns out Souls Mod does, in fact, incorporate the Zephyr boot mechanics into Angel Treads

despite not being listed on the item

[cedar laurel]

there’s no fairy boot effect in my aeulos boot…,

[lyric kiln]

it doesn't seem to include the fairy boosts yeah

just the flower growing

none of the Fairy Boot upgrades do

probably because that mechanic was added in Calamity

[pale pivot]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3535534370

should i change anything also its just me and my friend playing im melee and hes ranger

[fading dove]

ranger expansion gives preboss auric bars

[pale pivot]

isnt that kinda cheating?

[fading dove]

flamethrowers is redundant because you have catalyst

[fading dove]

yeah

[pale pivot]

ok so i remove ranger

and flamthrowers

anything else?

also is wrath of the gods multiplayer added?

[fading dove]

unofficial cal whips for the same reason as flamethrowers

[pale pivot]

gotcha

[gloomy wedge]

Wait how

Actually can preboss auric bars even do anything

You’d need a cosmic anvil no

[pale pivot]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3499210528&searchtext=wrath+of does this work?

[humble marlin]

from what ive heard it fixes most of the issues

[pale pivot]

ok so its playable?

[humble marlin]

its partially works so def a must have

if multiplayer

[pale pivot]

bet

yea

[pale pivot]

anything else i should do?

[grim falcon]

doesnt solve all issues

[pale pivot]

oh

[grim falcon]

only some of them

[pale pivot]

i keep tho still right?

[grim falcon]

not all

you can try to use it

[pale pivot]

alr

ill keep

[spare holly]

any tips for dodging infernum dog

[smoky dock]

You're in full control at all times, even if it doesn't seem like it. Try to pay attention to the cause and effect between your movement and his movement

[urban roost]

try and kite him

also i prefer wings over boots

[spare holly]

i'm using wings

[urban roost]

can you nail phase 1 dodges?

[spare holly]

yes

[lyric kiln]

Ah, I see I've reached approximately the point at which Fargo's Soul DLC stops having content

or rather, where the bosses stop being reworked, and no more Calamity-specific enchantments exist

at least until I reach Old Duke + Exo Mechs

that point being Plantera

[gloomy wedge]

I do like how old duke is the only pre-exos post-calclone boss that got reworked

Like this is our #1 priority

[lyric kiln]

I mean, to be honest it's a good priority

Old Duke kind of sucks in base Calamity tbh

[pale pivot]

had to remove star born and sloome mod

[daring willow]

Im trying to nohit hive without pressing a or d this shit is so fun

[lyric kiln]

Anahita and Leviathan is good, Astrum Aureus and Astrum Deus are good, PBG is alright, Ravager is... I mean it's Ravager

[daring willow]

ive gotten close so many times

[cedar laurel]

It’s an apology for the infernum version

[lyric kiln]

and then after that, Providence is already kind of the Eternity style of boss fight, Dragonfolly... exists, Ceaseless Void, Storm Weaver, Signus, even Polterghast, all perfectly fine bosses

and of course DoG, Yharon, and SCal are probably much larger projects to rework

and also decent bosses in themselves

[cedar laurel]

I say champion of death is like a better signus

[lyric kiln]

Old Duke is easily the worst boss after CalClone

so I'm glad it got reworked for Eternity + Death

[cedar laurel]

Also I heard they’re giving aureus a legs like perforator

In both base and eternity

[lyric kiln]

it already has legs though

just non-moving ones I guess

but yeah I get what you mean

clearly they should also give Deus legs

like a centipede

[elder nebula]

that would legitimately be awesome

centipede worm boss

[cedar laurel]

DoG

(He use crawltipede ai)

[plain lintel]

YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

242 attempts

[gloomy wedge]

Great stuff

Now its scal time

[plain lintel]

i am not ready for infernum scal

[lapis spruce]

how the hell do i use bookmarks

from cal entropy

[plain lintel]

i am going blind btw

[lapis spruce]

gl gang

[plain lintel]

thanks

[lyric kiln]

wait a minute, Reaver Armour gives 10% lifesteal, up to 1000 damage per hit?

wild

[spare summit]

Yeah reaver tank is broken

[lyric kiln]

I'm used to numbers like 0.4% lifesteal

I'll have to make a second set of Reaver armour to wear myself

I'm not even tank, I'm full Menacing

I guess this is what you call "Leech Tank"

[gloomy wedge]

If you go full warding it’ll get exponentially better

Since defense gets stronger the more of it you have

[lyric kiln]

eh, I know DR does, but defense doesn't

well, the more defense you have the more of a percentage of enemy damage each additional point of defense prevents

but those numbers are pretty similar until you get to really low enemy damage values

[gloomy wedge]

Yeah, the more defense you have the better it’ll be

Esp since you’re using reaver tank

You’ve already got stupid high defense

[lyric kiln]

side note, I gotta figure out which enchantment to put my Wizard Enchantment on

Reaver for the way higher regen

or Palladium for the increased payoff for healing

then again Wizard Enchantment Palladium is only 100 base damage, rather than 50

this is why I can't go full warding, though, clearly

so that I take more damage, so that I can heal more damage

so that I can get more Palladium Enchantment procs

[wispy topaz]

is infernum prov in 7 attempts good

[cedar laurel]

Yeah

[mortal patio]

insane, Prov nearly made me quit

anyways recently started a infernum summoner playthrough, any tips on the best summon for WoF and for mech bosses?

It took me 60hrs to beat infernum ranger and I would prefer speeding things up.

[lyric kiln]

quick, what do I take off for Palladium?

the only one that seems "replacable" is the Barbarian Essence, but there's no way that's right

[dim aurora]

#help-advice-read-pins pins

[lyric kiln]

I guess I could take off the Bionomic Cluster, but then I'd lose the "attacks occasionally spawn hearts on hit"

which gives absolutely ridiculous amounts of effective healing if picked up

then again I guess it's less necessary if I'm healing enormous amounts of hp/sec through just regen

[mortal patio]

no herring staff, and dank staff feels meh, guess ill try the others. Forgot these existed ngl, thx

[lyric kiln]

taking off Bionomic Cluster seems incorrect, given how many accessories it is

but I guess it's probably the right option

[gloomy wedge]

None

Palladium is not a very good enchant

Also upgrade to aeolus boots

[dim aurora]

Necrosteocytes

[lyric kiln]

I literally just beat Plantera, so I haven't had a chance to upgrade my boots yet

but now that I look at it, I might be able to go without boots?

Aureate Booster does have really good horizontal speed

[mortal patio]

Alr tysm!

[lyric kiln]

but that doesn't seem right at all

[lyric kiln]

Palladium is my payoff for regen

free damage per healing

is it good damage? Probably not

but it's the entire point of the "build"

[gloomy wedge]

Or you could just use something like lump of flesh and get way better free damage

Plus a parry to go along with it

Parries synergize very well with bullky builds since you can afford to make mistakes

And dread shell can deal absolutely ABSURD damage

[lyric kiln]

oh yeah I guess that is accessible now

but Palladium is literally the point of the regen tank thing

I strongly considered putting Wizard Enchant on Palladium instead to double its base damage

[gloomy wedge]

If you really have to drop something for palladium, its the essence

[lyric kiln]

tbh I'm not actually sure what all Bionomic Cluster is doing for me

other than the "enemies drop hearts"

and I guess giving me infinite flight

[gloomy wedge]

A lot of niche stuff you don’t notice but it helps a lot

[lyric kiln]

I have the Shadowflame Charge and Tiki Boost turned off because I didn't like how it looked visually

[fading dove]

hallowed armour on inf exos is insane

[lyric kiln]

especially Tiki Boost, which I'm sure is good

but makes my character look like ass

[gloomy wedge]

Tribal charm sounds a lot better than it is

[lyric kiln]

is it really worth it?

[fading dove]

what the fuck

[lyric kiln]

actually you can't see how ass it is in this screenshot

[fading dove]

pink unit

[gloomy wedge]

Yeah shimmer interface

[lyric kiln]

Aether unit yeah

[gloomy wedge]

Learned it existed on my current stars abov playthrough

[plain lintel]

i was wearing auric, the blurring thing is most likely a potion buff

[fading dove]

ah

so cheating

[gloomy wedge]

Lets you skip having that whole underground pylon taken up by the shimmer

[plain lintel]

let me check

[plain lintel]

wdym

[fading dove]

you need hallowed armour for the hallowed armour set bonus

[lyric kiln]

but yeah I guess Lump of Flesh is accessible to me now also

[plain lintel]

its ninja potion, brewer from alchemist npc sells it

[lyric kiln]

just gotta kill the Dreadnautilus

[gloomy wedge]

Yeah but that’s not a calamity buff potion

[lyric kiln]

AlchNPC randomly includes a bunch of "Non-Calamity Buff Potions" on the Calamity page

for some reason

and most of them are busted

[spare summit]

Geldon is so peak holy moly

[elder nebula]

indubitably

[gloomy wedge]

Yeah it’s a pretty good fight

[lyric kiln]

Oh huh, I guess Reaver Armour is a lot less busted than I thought

since the "lifesteal" has a cooldown

so you don't just instantly heal up from any damage dealt

I'm sure it's still very strong, but it having a cooldown means that it's less likely to be used for the entire rest of the game

[wispy topaz]

why wouldnt it that would be busted

[lyric kiln]

it would be yeah, that's why I was so surprised to see the line "All attacks heal the player for 10% of the damage dealt, at 100 HP maximum."

listed on the wiki

and again in the patch notes, it claims that "Tank set bonus now always lifesteals on hit instead of having a 10% chance, and now bypasses lifesteal immunity, but it now heals for 10% of damage dealt instead of 20%."

so I guess when it says "all attacks heal" it means "all attacks, but on a cooldown"?

[fading dove]

it follows lifesteal cooldown

[lyric kiln]

ah, wasn't aware that lifesteal cooldown was a thing

[plain lintel]

i didnt really think one potion would have that much of an impact

it really didnt, i re tried them without it to see the difference and each attempt was pretty much the same as when i had it on

i also noticed the blur went away when the sponge's shield absorbed a hit so its the same thing

[spare summit]

Very serious important question
What music box should I use in my towns now that the rift is here

I already have astral underground

[elder nebula]

hmmm

[restive vale]

im playing infernum and im on the mechs but whenever im fighting prime halfway through the fight the destroyer just spawns idk if its apart of the mod or if its a glitch or smth im just confused bc it seems so out of place

[elder nebula]

master?

[restive vale]

yeah

[elder nebula]

mhm

[restive vale]

thats crazy

[spare summit]

It’s getting removed next Patch

Idk what fabsol was thinking

[restive vale]

ohhhh so it is a glitch?

or an accident

[elder nebula]

nope

[spare summit]

No it’s a shitty design choice lol

[restive vale]

lmao

[elder nebula]

just fabsolian boss design

[restive vale]

it literally feels so dumb like theres no lead up i was so confsued when i was first fighting prime bc it just said destroyer has awoken

i like checked to see if it gave the message that pops up when night starts

[plain lintel]

infernum can be played on master now?

or is it an addon

[restive vale]

am i not supposed to play infernum on master?

i just thought it would be harder but is it like bugged

[fading dove]

all the patch does it remove the restriction

it doesnt try to make the game work

[restive vale]

oh fuckkkk i might be playing infernum wrong then

[plain lintel]

oh jeez

[restive vale]

made it up to the mechs in master

god damn it

[plain lintel]

damn

im sorry about that bro

[restive vale]

i think i can change the world difficulty with an item

to expert

[plain lintel]

maybe

[restive vale]

yeah first infernum playthrough i wanted it to be a challenge so i just put master

thats so stupid

[spare summit]

You can use dragonlens or Fargos mutant to change it

But atp id start fresh

You’re not too far in but you missed all of prehardmode infernum

[plain lintel]

how were the pre hardmode bosses for you

were they buggy or smth

[daring willow]

NO FUCKING WAY

[restive vale]

nah they werent too difficult either i only struggled w wof and skeletron

but slime god was EXTREMELY buggy

[daring willow]

I just ddid my hive nohit after 100 attempts and it didnt redcdord

[restive vale]

it just died like without me hitting it

[daring willow]

kms kms kms kms]

[restive vale]

ts took me like 2 days vro idk if i can restart i might just change it and keep going bc im still having fun

okay what does normal infernum look like im confused bc i just changed it to expert and fought some random bosses and they were the exact same as before i changed it

ive havent played it in like a year or two and it was in multiplayer so i think it was bugged out anyway

[pale pivot]

is this how it suppose to look in infernum?

[cedar laurel]

Yeah

[pale pivot]

gotcha

[restive vale]

literally the dumbest human alive i didnt have infernum on in my mod checklist this entire playthrough

[dim aurora]

Fragos mutant sells it

[restive vale]

yeah i already did that

[fading dove]

also crafted with 5 iron/lead bars

[dim aurora]

Fargos

[dim aurora]

Watch some nohits idk

[restive vale]

i just watched some yt vids my infernum looks literally nothing like it

[dim aurora]

Lmao

[restive vale]

im literally so fucking stupid i didnt select infernum in the mode selection thing because i didnt even have the mod turned on

put 12 hrs into an infernum playthrough and i was playing normal revengence the entire time😲

[dim aurora]

Maybe thats master death or master rev

[elder nebula]

[dim aurora]

How tf didnt you notice

[restive vale]

bro ive never played it before🙏

i havent played modded in like 2 yrs let alone calamity

especially infernum

[dim aurora]

That means you should finish vanilla calam first

[restive vale]

i did before i just wanted a challenge

ive done like 5-10 playthroughs just a long tiem ago

[obtuse minnow]

well make it 11

with this one

too late to switch to infernum

[lyric kiln]

you know, now that I'm about halfway through Eternity + Death, I have to wonder

with the sheer amount of damaging effects attached to Souls mod accessories, I wonder if Weaponless is possible

or, not just possible, but "viable"

[river shell]

Idk if Im bad or not but the brain of cthulu does a lot of damage in infernum. Is there a recommended set of accessories or armor I should use?

[lapis tusk]

It is

[lyric kiln]

like, it'd definitely be a challenge, but probably not quite as overwhelming of one as in base Calamity

[lapis tusk]

Accessories giving 30-40% contribution is bossfights is common in souls

[lyric kiln]

the main thing is I probably don't want to just be playing "functionally Summoner" with purely just summoner accessories

but yeah, it sounds like a fun challenge

[spare summit]

Probably like
Sandstorm horseshoe balloon
Lightning boots or their upgrades
Shield of Cthulhu
Damage accessory that depends on your class
Rover drive
All reforged to warding

[lyric kiln]

side note, one of the weirdest "challenge playthroughs" I've done was one I called the "Hobo Challenge"

the rule: No base

no chests, and by extension no piggy bank/safe/defender's forge

also no placed arena stations

though of course in order to make it function at all, I had to enable "inventory crafting stations" with the QoL mod

it wasn't really so much a "challenge run" in the sense of restricting my weapons or gear, but more in the sense of inventory management

oh yeah, and I guess I also placed the Codebreaker

[topaz panther]

is the wotg lag issue fixed yet

[lyric kiln]

Honestly, while the early game is definitely doable, the main concern I have is whether Weaponless has enough damage in it to beat the final bosses of the mod, Calamitas, Exo Mechs, Mutant, and whatever WotG enemies

[crystal trellis]

when rogue starts to be one of the fastest class for boss killing?

[river shell]

do meteors still spawn in infernum when you kill brain of cthulu

[molten shale]

Yes

[waxen tide]

at the start of the game then it tooks a lil break and after evils 2 its killer machine

[spare summit]

How good is punctus?
I never see it being talked about

But infernum stuff is usually busted

[waxen tide]

pretty good for signus

and its mostly fit for only signus

[maiden fjord]

punctus?

[spare summit]

Infernum weapon from profaned guardians

[maiden fjord]

oh

[dim aurora]

Is there a single addon mod without underpowered or busted weapons

[lapis tusk]

It has an SS tier weapon pre boss

[glad swift]

is this good for death mode scourge & crabulon?
i have old god, calamity vanity and catalyst installed

[daring willow]

Crystalline?

[waxen tide]

nasty cholla

crystalline isnt even that good

[glad swift]

and what weapons are reccomended for eow?

[daring willow]

Swap baloon you don't need it for them bosses

[daring willow]

Fugi

Fumigator

Somthing like that

Blue mushroom gun thing

Or vilethorn

[glad swift]

double jump though

[daring willow]

Fungcide

[daring willow]

You have spectre boots

Also you should make the spectres into terra you can do it preboss

Also get volcano and oathsword for crab

[thin canyon]

[echo sleet]

which armor should i go for pre boss hardmode?

which one from the hardmode ores?

as mage

[terse seal]

Is there any potion upgrade I can get at hivemind

Cause lesser pots don't cut it

[silver loom]

chat i had 20% polter on 3rd try am i cooking?

[echo sleet]

yeah, normal healing potions

you use 2 lesser, 1 glowing mushroom

and it heals for 100

its not even post any boss

just go to the caves, get mushrooms, get a bottle and bam

[terse seal]

Well I don't think it's 3rd try

I remember you since yesterday

[terse seal]

Yea I found it

I just shredded ds a bit for lesser pots

[silver loom]

well i just woke up

[terse seal]

Still not 3rd try🤷

[silver loom]

i mean in like today

[terse seal]

Well yea

Show loadout

[lucid sleet]

do you guys know what mod is the weapon forged lash

[terse seal]

Yea you good

What difficulty

Oh it's unfernum

You're fighting the annoying stick monster

[silver loom]

yeahh

im getting clapped on the attack where he shoots these red balls

[dusky ingot]

Are you from Polandia?

[silver loom]

nie powiem

[dusky ingot]

damn

[silver loom]

i got him now on 22% but died cuz of a stupid attack

[dense eagle]

when he doesnt shoot those

[terse seal]

And I'm getting actually annoyed with hive mind

He is an actual asshole in infernum

[silver loom]

yeah

[terse seal]

Don't question my grammar

[dense eagle]

i heard hes easy but annoying

[terse seal]

Exactly

[dense eagle]

i always go for crimson cuz i prefer its bosses more than corruption ones

[silver loom]

CHAT I HAVE ALMOST ADRENALINE

[dense eagle]

damn

[silver loom]

nvm

[dense eagle]

nice

[silver loom]

i got hit by these red balls

[terse seal]

Same but I accidentally went random this time

[dense eagle]

i recommend using hook when hes standing and shooting those

[dusky ingot]

I always go for crimson aswell, mostly because I prefer the items and looks

[terse seal]

I prefer brain over scarf

And I prefer the perforators

Over hive mind

[silver loom]

432 damage 🥀

[dusky ingot]

Oh yeah for sure

[silver loom]

i died from fucking 432 damage

[terse seal]

I have brain of Cthulhu tho

I prefer eow

[dusky ingot]

Brain is just better honestly

[terse seal]

Except in infernum

Eow in infernum is annoying af

[dusky ingot]

Brain fight is designed much better imo

[silver loom]

the red balls are actually so hard for me to dodge

[terse seal]

Yea but eow is free

[dim aurora]

Why are you texting mid fight focus

[terse seal]

He isnt

He died

[dense eagle]

they are hard but you gotta find a way

[dim aurora]

He said he got adrenalije

Read man read

[terse seal]

Yea and died

Like damn

I love using the bike feeder

The sound is so crunchy

And satisfying

[silver loom]

idk man

[terse seal]

Wait

[terse seal]

You where actually texting mid fight?

[silver loom]

well

kinda

[terse seal]

Oh why am I dying

Meanwhile you are texting

[silver loom]

i almost had adren

but again thesde red balls

[dusky ingot]

How do you get the candles that boost stats?

The ones that improve mobility, damage or defense?

[silver loom]

wizard

[tall musk]

why i cannot hit aquatic scourge, he seems immune

[dusky ingot]

I think you gotta go under?

[dense eagle]

underwater

[tall musk]

ahhh

thanks

[silver loom]

yo i lowk will get some heart statues

[terse seal]

Nice

I got hive mind 37%

I'ma go get a sentry ngl

It'll make the fight easier

[dense eagle]

ye

[terse seal]

What sentry should I use

I could go get some campfires and stuff too

But Lowkey fuck it

I'm too lazy

[dense eagle]

maybe from olds one army

[dense eagle]

you dont have wood and torches in your eq?

[terse seal]

Explosive trap rod?

[terse seal]

I just don't wanna place em

Cause my arena is half the map

[dense eagle]

i never used those sentries beside balista so idk which will be the best

[dusky ingot]

Damn scal desperation phase got me

[brazen timber]

cant beat the twins 💔

[silver loom]

guys

[brazen timber]

any tips

[silver loom]

im on desperation phase

[dusky ingot]

Well they are the most difficult mech

[terse seal]

What weapon

[dusky ingot]

Did you do the other ones first?

[terse seal]

*easiest

Sprime is harder

[dusky ingot]

Not at all

Prime is easiest one on infernum

[terse seal]

He Lowkey is

[brazen timber]

Firecracker

[silver loom]

i died

[terse seal]

Well he took me 186 attempts while twins took me 60smt

[silver loom]

bruda ew

he took me 7

[terse seal]

Bruh I was doing a challenge run

I've never done a normal playthrough

I was playing armorless

[brazen timber]

Pretty sure u can kill prime without getting killed with the cart methid

[terse seal]

I don't use cheese

I wanna actually kill the boss

[silver loom]

ok im sorry master

[terse seal]

💀

[silver loom]

do u want me to twerk for u

[terse seal]

Bro why is a goblin army not invading

[silver loom]

did you try restarting ur pc?

[spare summit]

Surely you’ve smashed a shadow orb by now right?

[silver loom]

bro polter is so hard

[terse seal]

I've killed eow

So yea I've smashed a shadow orb

Istg if nycros is causing a problem again

[dense eagle]

force it

[terse seal]

Cause it has caused so many problems

[dense eagle]

by using summoning item

goblin battle standard

[terse seal]

Aren't goblin scouts post skeletron

[dense eagle]

no

lemme check

[slim sphinx]

they arent

[dense eagle]

no

just be around dungeon

behind somewhere

in the forest

[terse seal]

Here?

[dense eagle]

ye

[silver loom]

wtf

[dense eagle]

they always spawns for me around there

[silver loom]

whats wrong

why is ur world like that

[terse seal]

It's a setting

[dense eagle]

it didnt load yet

[terse seal]

Opacity is low

For lag

[terse seal]

No

Opacity is low

For lag

[dense eagle]

why not screenshot ?

[terse seal]

If I dare open discord my laptop will implode

I'm barely hanging on to 20 fps rn

[dense eagle]

i can understand

[silver loom]

normality relocator has to be the goat

[terse seal]

Yea goblin scouts aren't spawning

[silver loom]

ngl

[slim sphinx]

they are uncommon just wait a bit

[terse seal]

I have a water candle and 2 potions that increase spawn rate

Like damn

[dense eagle]

move around

[slim sphinx]

go a bit further than the dungeon

right before the ocean

[terse seal]

U mean sulphuric sea

[dense eagle]

its also a ocean

[slim sphinx]

thats an ocean

[terse seal]

🤷

[terse seal]

Right before my ocean is corruption

Do I wait there

[slim sphinx]

go to the other side then

they wont spawn there

[terse seal]

The other side downs have the dungeon

Don't they only spawn on the dungeon side

[slim sphinx]

their spawns have nothing to do with the dungeon

its the outer edges of your world

[dense eagle]

near ocean

in forest

[slim sphinx]

doesnt have to be forest they can spawn in the ocean too

just less commonly because spawns are being taken up more

[silver loom]

im doin dog i think ima skip polter

[dense eagle]

dog can be easier cuz you mainly must know where to start raming

[silver loom]

well im trying to learn the circle

thingy

[terse seal]

Well

I'm tired of waiting for em

Should I grab the cloth from a different world?

[dim aurora]

If you want

[silver loom]

yup

[terse seal]

I only had 2 cloth in my main

Anyway less grind

[silver loom]

chat i got dog to like 30%

but i died

im on attempt 63

i died cuz his fucking tail

[terse seal]

Any tips to find goblin tink faster?

[silver loom]

spawned litteraly on me

[silver loom]

drink a zerg

[terse seal]

Wtf is a zerg

Oh the potion

But doesn't that increase enemy spawn rate

[silver loom]

yup

[terse seal]

Does that count to friendly npcs?

Also I can't drink a zerg

[fading dove]

yeah

[silver loom]

i think it count also

[terse seal]

I need an alchemy table

[silver loom]

do u have alchemist npc mod?

[fading dove]

critters, rescuable npcs, and enemies all follow the same spawnrate functions

[terse seal]

Yea

[silver loom]

than go to alchemist

and she sells them

im talking abt her

[terse seal]

That's the brewer

Also she sells em after you kill slime god

Not yet

[silver loom]

oh

[terse seal]

I'll just pop a battle pot

And pray

[silver loom]

guys whats the mod that lets me fall down platfroms

fast

?

[dense eagle]

same name?

[silver loom]

oh lol

[dense eagle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2992213994

[silver loom]

i litteraly prob wouldve killed dog

but i didnt

cuz i didnt have the mod

[dense eagle]

damn

[silver loom]

i had rage and adren at 90%

[fading dove]

you can flash certain mounts

like witch's broom

[dense eagle]

or hammer the platforms

but that would be too much work

[silver loom]

yeah ;-;

lowk

dog is more fun than polter

and i think easier

[dense eagle]

ye

[silver loom]

i was actually so scared

for dog

[dense eagle]

for polter you need precise movement

and dog timing the ram dashes and knowing where to stand

[silver loom]

i know the ram dashes

bro this mf

just boosted to me

and i died

its my 1st interaction like that

[dense eagle]

i think that happens when you are trying to outrun him

[silver loom]

oh

[dense eagle]

he can boost so much

but still you can outrun him with certain weapon

[silver loom]

idk what to do after the laser attacks

cuz then hes above me

and im not on the same level as him so i cant ram

any tips for that?

[worn grove]

Hi

Is my wotg glitching

Cuz i got almost all collectable books but no other books is found

Like the ones that solyn collect

[silver loom]

yeah well what book do u not have

?

[terse seal]

Is there any mod that lights up caves

And stuff

Cause it's annoying that I can't see shit

[brazen timber]

is there a mod to remove the fire ring around me

[floral holly]

really fucking hate you infernum lunatic custist like i litteraly cannot dodge the fireball attack no matter what

[dim aurora]

Not use the potion

[brazen timber]

is it bad or decent

[weary whale]

Oh my goodness Infernum is nasty
playing rogue and my equipment literally did not matter. The only reason I beat Scourge and Eye is because of sandstorm in a bottle. The way they move and turn is so nonsense lol

mobility is king