calamity-addon-talk

[nimble wing]

it did 4 years ago and it's called exos

[spare summit]

Real

Simply steal exos and put them in vanilla wotg

[humble marlin]

hecate getting moved to death mode would be extremely funny

[spare summit]

Overhaul moment

[gloomy wedge]

i do wonder how aoe and nameless are gonna change tho, those fights feel pretty fine tuned to cal's mobility options

maybe starboard is just cracked enough to do it anyways?

[white dagger]

man

providence phase 1 impossible xd

I've gotten through it 4/40 times

[spare summit]

Are you using brimstone crescent staff

[white dagger]

It's pain to dodge

[spare summit]

Go in a circle around the boss if you aren’t

[white dagger]

I am

but I don't understand how the AI works

is it like a "meter" where if you aren't circling, the amount of projectiles increase gradually?

[spare summit]

No, the phase ends once the intro to the guardians theme is over
Halfway through she also starts sending out projectiles in addition to sucking them in

[white dagger]

and then immediately after attack 1, it's only a 50% chance I die to the big orb things

they're gigantic

at lowest zoom half my screen is taken up and flashbanged

I watched a video, and all they did was slowly fly up I think??

[spare summit]

I like slowly going in a half circle under the boss to bait the big fireballs and then staying on top of her while they blow up

[white dagger]

but because of how bright those balls are sometimes I can't see the indicator for the projectile, so I end up hitting it

I can't see anything

[dusky ingot]

"AI will take our jobs"
I'd like AI to steal my unemployment

[spare summit]

You can try turning down visuals in the config

I’d like to see ai drink 7 beers before 3pm

[white dagger]

and also, the hitboxes on those big projectiles are awful

I'm pretty sure you can see them

it's a faint bright outline

but because of how bright everything around it is, it's impossible to distinguish that hitbox, so I randomly get hit for 300 and die

[nimble wing]

no they need quite some rebalance to work

[white dagger]

which config

infernum or calamity

[spare summit]

Infernum

[white dagger]

reduced graphics?

[spare summit]

Yes

[nimble wing]

we'll also retool or replace attacks that were unbalanced or just poor design

like avatar's fog memory game attack is probably going to die

[spare summit]

No more avatar jumpscare

That was funny

[white dagger]

gg I got to crystal phase

died to bullshit instant kill deathray spam

but close

yeah I hate disintegration deathrays

both on guardians and providence

it's an awful attack

[spare summit]

Unlike guardians, hers barely move from where the telegraphs start
Just get as far from them as you can while not going in the lava, she gives you like 3 seconds

[prisma jewel]

Scal is so peak bro

[agile agate]

What boss?

[white dagger]

providence

[agile agate]

Oh

[white dagger]

fun

[waxen tide]

oh yeah planetary annahilation aint gonna work for rocks

😕

[white dagger]

yeah I can see

what do I get instead

[waxen tide]

celebration mk2

or like superradiant slaugheter if you want the funny option for provi

[prisma jewel]

Wait your character looks like it's moving so slowly, that's so weird to watch

[white dagger]

lets go gambling!!!

[white dagger]

yeah, I use featherfall for this fight, not exactly sure why I like it more for this specifically

[spare summit]

Super radiant is the best post ml weapon in the game easily and it has a little dash thing which can help

[prisma jewel]

Oh no wonder, fair enough

[white dagger]

I might try it out instead

[prisma jewel]

Idk whether to finish my eternity run first since it's becoming boring with how easy the fights are or to do infernum with a different class 😭

[spare summit]

Play rogue or classless

Infernum

[white dagger]

how do you use it?

[steel thorn]

Is Infernum a solid experience?

[spare summit]

Charge up the left click and release once fully charged
Right click once it comes off cooldown to dash and fire a thing that shoots homing projectiles

[white dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/mgs4-mgs-snake-screaming-liquid-gif-24449463

[spare summit]

It’s really fun until like old duke

[white dagger]

wait until second ring appears and shoot for max damage?

[spare summit]

Second or third? Whatever the max is

[white dagger]

only 2 rings

[spare summit]

Then it’s ass until Scal and becomes peak again

Then yeah 2

[prisma jewel]

Idk I found DoG and exos fun

[spare summit]

Exos depends on the combo I think

Dog is literally just one move and if you mess up 3 times you die

[prisma jewel]

Twins + ares is peak

[prisma jewel]

I mean yeah but it's not even remotely difficult (imo)

[spare summit]

I don’t care, doesn’t make it fun

[prisma jewel]

I don't know why people don't like it

[spare summit]

Because the boss has one move that actually poses a threat

[prisma jewel]

Good theme, very good visuals

[dusky ingot]

Stop the cope 💀

[prisma jewel]

?

I was fighting the boss completely wrong for 34 attempts then almost no hit him on my 3rd real attempt without adrenaline

[spare summit]

Yeah you have to almost nohit him

I also almost nohit him

[prisma jewel]

Not really

[steel thorn]

DoG is a shitass boss in my opinion

[spare summit]

Wait til you play infernum

[steel thorn]

Only Calamity worm I like is Thanatos

[little steppe]

inf dog is mid

[prisma jewel]

This was for R3 right?

I assume

[spare summit]

It’s certainly not fun

Yea

But infernum overall is worth playing

[little steppe]

but the bar for dog is in the center of the earth

[spare summit]

Install wrath of the gods too

They go together really well

[prisma jewel]

Me needs a diff above infernum

Not hard enough

[spare summit]

Play mid mode

[steel thorn]

Shower%

[little steppe]

exactly

[prisma jewel]

Doesn't master break infernum?

I

had bugs with it when I was trying to run it

[spare summit]

There’s a mod that patches it

[steel thorn]

There’s a patch

[prisma jewel]

Like moon lords attacks being invisible

Yeah I had the mod

Some bosses would randomly turn invisible and stop attacking

[spare summit]

There now it’s hard enough

[white dagger]

I'm doing infernum master mode

[prisma jewel]

Tbf I did almost beat him like that, probably could've done it if I could be bothered dealing with it

[white dagger]

I didn't seem to have any bugs

[steel thorn]

Go SL1 every Dark Souls game or something

[white dagger]

but moon lords attacks were hard to see... until I turned omnipresence off

[prisma jewel]

How much does hp and dmg scale from expert to master?

[steel thorn]

The same amount from normal to expert

[prisma jewel]

I mean I've never played normal so 😭

[spare summit]

I’m ngl infernum was probably harder than elden ring sl1 for me
I haven’t played the other souls games though so idk

[dusky ingot]

Just use the stat slider from mutant's mod...

[dusky ingot]

Not nearly as buggy, and you can adjust the stats to be as difficult as you like

[spare summit]

It’s different in clammity

[steel thorn]

I always hear Elden Ring is turbo easy

[dusky ingot]

Since master is just stats anyways

[prisma jewel]

Also has anyone done infernum scal nohit without RoD? I can't find one

[dusky ingot]

I thought the talk was abt infernum?

And on infernum it changes nothing

[waxen tide]

many people

[dusky ingot]

Except stats

[steel thorn]

Currently doing NG+6 SL1 in DS1 myself and OnS are wrecking me

[spare summit]

Because of the existence of broken builds and spirit ashes which you don’t really have access to at level 1

[prisma jewel]

Really? Every vid I'm checking is just using the rod lol. Ig I'm looking in the wrong place

[spare summit]

Actually I lied

[waxen tide]

many of those nohits are non public so byeah

[gloomy wedge]

I wouldn’t say many people

[dusky ingot]

Bro they were destroying my ass even in regular gameplay

[gloomy wedge]

It’s pretty hard and a restriction

[spare summit]

There’s lots of broken rl1 builds

[gloomy wedge]

But def a good amount of people

[dusky ingot]

And I had a pretty overpowered weapon for that fight - Dark Knight Sword

[steel thorn]

Ehhh BKS is decent

[gloomy wedge]

That’s the ons experience

Personally I just used regular ass longsword for my entire ds1 playthrough

[prisma jewel]

Are there any nohits that are very limited? Like little to no people have done. I'm interested not gonna lie

[dusky ingot]

Some people probably did it accidentally aswell cause they just didn't feel the need to use it during the fight

[gloomy wedge]

Because I like straight swords

[steel thorn]

OnS did take the most amount of attempts out of every boss on my first run

[dusky ingot]

Satanist Mutant?

[steel thorn]

That being 10

[waxen tide]

ehhh
technically it is kinda hard but like the more you fight inf scal the more you understand its very very consitent

[dusky ingot]

I think most for me was Bed of Chaos at like 20, I hated that fight

[prisma jewel]

Has anyone even gotten there 😭 I heard the furthest was like deviantt

[gloomy wedge]

In infernum? Wingless scal seems neat

[dusky ingot]

I kept falling into the pit

[dusky ingot]

no one has

[steel thorn]

BoC took me 4 because I would get clipped when trying to jump onto the root

[dusky ingot]

Which means no one has nohit it aswell

[waxen tide]

boss rush nohits

[prisma jewel]

That is a scary thing to hear

[steel thorn]

There’s literally no way around it either

[prisma jewel]

Damn, wonder what it takes to be the first for real

[steel thorn]

Either you get clipped or you don’t

[dusky ingot]

I hated that DS1 had such extremely strong gravity

[gloomy wedge]

BoC is probably the worst boss in any game right

Like is there anything that even comes close to it

[steel thorn]

It’s an absolutely shite boss

[dusky ingot]

Cause when you jump over a gap you're just pulled by the extreme gravity straight down

[dusky ingot]

Though I heard you can cheese it with da bombs

[nimble wing]

i thought bed of chaos was overhated icl

[prisma jewel]

Well I feel if my first infernum run still took me 61 attempts to clear scal then I wouldn't get to nor beat satanist mutant so, probably just gonna stick with infernum nohits if I want to try any

[dusky ingot]

Old Duke: ....

[gloomy wedge]

In terms of bosses I hate in ds1? Bed of chaos isn’t the worst

[steel thorn]

Bed of Chaos deserves the hate because it’s RNG whether you win or not

[nimble wing]

at least compared to Ceaseless Discharge, maybe gwyn too

[gloomy wedge]

Centipede demon is the worst for me

[prisma jewel]

Hot take: Old duke was fun

[little steppe]

in infernum?

[gloomy wedge]

But objectively speaking, I think you literally can’t get worse than bed of chaos

[steel thorn]

If the beard clips you when you try to jump onto the root you’re dying no matter what

[gloomy wedge]

Not that one

[nimble wing]

that's bed of chaos not brain of cthulhu

[little steppe]

which one

[dusky ingot]

Yeah Gwyn is a shit boss cause it's just free once you figure out you can parry him

[little steppe]

oh....

[spare summit]

Old duke was fine I guess
My problem with it is it’s just a tiny shitty yharon

[nimble wing]

(dark souls 1)

[little steppe]

what is bed of chaos

o

okay

[dusky ingot]

Despite you being unable to parry like all the bosses in DS1

[spare summit]

The worst boss

Ever

[prisma jewel]

I was also going to ask lol

[gloomy wedge]

Gwyn has like 7 easy attacks and then there’s that one slash that is quite literally impossible to react to

[waxen tide]

bed of chaos its pretty bad but like its also pretty easy

[steel thorn]

Ceaseless Discharge literally trolled my ass for an hour and a half with the undodgable lava laser

[dusky ingot]

Shit boss, just throws you into the hole during the fight and there isn't even any combat

[prisma jewel]

Are any of the three wotg bosses harder than the base infernum ones?

[steel thorn]

This challenge run has had almost everything go wrong that could go wrong

[gloomy wedge]

Not particularly, no

[little steppe]

tell me thats atleast like a tutorial boss or something

[spare summit]

Wotg bosses are really easy

[gloomy wedge]

They’re scaled to base calamity in terms of difficulty

[dusky ingot]

I dunno, I just killed him first try once I knew I can parry

[nimble wing]

could you narrow that down? infernum has 47 bosses

[gloomy wedge]

I try to play souls games without parries personally

[dusky ingot]

One of the 4 Lord soul guardians, which are the protectors of the final boss basically

[prisma jewel]

What do you mean? Like harder than the hardest of the base infernum mod

[little steppe]

😭

[limber sage]

it's one of the 'final bosses' iirc

[prisma jewel]

Which would be scal imo

Then ML

[little steppe]

I can see why it is bad

[gloomy wedge]

Tbf it’s not like the other three are much better

[steel thorn]

Bed of Chaos is easy yes, but you’ll likely lose to bullshit

[little steppe]

thats subjective

[limber sage]

4 kings is awful

[dusky ingot]

Well most of them are very easy

[spare summit]

Scal took me 70ish attempts
Mars took 1, avatar took 2, nameless took 1

[waxen tide]

I also do that except I cant parry

[dusky ingot]

Actually none are difficult iirc

[prisma jewel]

Most definitely, though I usually see most people agreeing on it being DoG or something

[nimble wing]

oh nah most of infernum post-ml sweeps wotg in difficulty terms

[gloomy wedge]

It’s like they made absolute peak with o&s and then realized “OH FUCK WE HAVE TO MAKE ANOTHER HALF OF THE GAME”

[dusky ingot]

But Nito had a very annoying path to get to him so yeah

[little steppe]

DoG is easy as shit

[prisma jewel]

Oh 😭 boring

[prisma jewel]

Yeah that's what I'm sayin

I found scal way harder

[gloomy wedge]

DoG is easy as shit*
-# after you beat him once

[nimble wing]

post-O&S got rushed by higherups actually

[gloomy wedge]

Once you learn dog, you learn dog forever

[little steppe]

the hardest boss is king slime

[dusky ingot]

I feel like DoG CAN be easy if you know exactly what you're supposed to do and what to use

[little steppe]

youre supposed to ram and thats about it

[gloomy wedge]

Personally dog took me the most attempts, but I found scal harder

[little steppe]

the thing with dog is

[gloomy wedge]

At least the DLC is peak

[little steppe]

most attempts last 2 seconds

[white dagger]

NOOO!!!!!!

MY BEST FUCKING RUN

[dusky ingot]

But I feel like that kinda ruins the fun of infernum (atleast for me) to just watch gameplay to find ways to beat/cheese bosses

[white dagger]

30%

[steel thorn]

Most of my NG+6 SL1 OnS attempts last 2 seconds

[little steppe]

so it just inflates the death count

[gloomy wedge]

Personally I’ve been trying to find a way to cheese inf profaned guardians

[dusky ingot]

It's the best part of difficult games to find your own way of dealing with the boss and learning how to dodge

[gloomy wedge]

Or more accurately, softlock them

[little steppe]

unlike Scal which is one of the longest fights

[gloomy wedge]

See in the phase 3 transition, when the commander throws the defender

[spare summit]

How do you cheese a boss where you can’t build in their arena

[gloomy wedge]

The phase transition doesn’t actually occur until the defender hits a block

So if there was any way to make the defender just not hit a block

[little steppe]

cheese to build in the arena

[gloomy wedge]

You’d have a softlock

[little steppe]

[gloomy wedge]

Because the boss would just not be able to be damaged

Now the issue here is that the defender is thrown straight down

And you can’t destroy the profaned garden

[dusky ingot]

Actually, what was the easiest and hardest lordsoul boss in DS1?

[gloomy wedge]

Easiest is Seeth, hardest is Four Kings?

Four Kings are assholes if you don’t know to just use Havel armor

[dusky ingot]

Cause I feel like Seathe can be pretty problematic because in the first fight you get the clams chasing you

[nimble wing]

the boss being reasonable if you're wearing the heaviest armor in the game does not make the boss reasonable

[dusky ingot]

I heard Four Kings scale a lot in NG+, but in my regular playthrough I honestly just facetanked them

[gloomy wedge]

Yeah they’re not reasonable lol

You either cheese them or endure PAIN AND AGONY

[dusky ingot]

Well I only used Havel's helmet to be fair

[nimble wing]

i black knight halberd-ed them

[gloomy wedge]

Now the theory I’ve got is

[dusky ingot]

Cause I only found Havel's ring and Fap ring right before going into Gwyn, and then I could wear full Havel

[nimble wing]

anyway this was truly a calamity addon talk

[gloomy wedge]

What if you rod to the top of the screen as soon as the guardian’s thrown

And, if you line it up perfectly, you can get them to go out of the profaned garden

[dusky ingot]

What if you use Recall potion somewhere?

[gloomy wedge]

Through hell

[white dagger]

the only cheese I did was portal gun

[gloomy wedge]

Not hit a single block

[nimble wing]

did you know that being able to teleport during infernum guards is a MAGIC STORAGE BUG

[white dagger]

skip first phase

[prisma jewel]

Basically the same here but both took me the exact same number of attempts (technically, if scal didn't crash 4 times during her death animation at least)

[gloomy wedge]

Oh right, rod is disabled normally

And you can’t use teleporters

[white dagger]

portal gun still works

[gloomy wedge]

What else could be done

[dusky ingot]

Potion of return

Debauchery

[white dagger]

portal

gun

[gloomy wedge]

Portal gun and potion of return both seem decent

[spare summit]

That word does not mean what you think it does

[dusky ingot]

Really?

[gloomy wedge]

But for return you’d have to make sure the final guardian doesn’t despawn

Or else the fight just ends

[dusky ingot]

English ain't my first language so I usually assume what words mean based on the context I see them in

[gloomy wedge]

And for portal gun you have to make sure you can actually get the defender to be thrown where you want

Since you can’t adjust the ceiling

[spare summit]

Maybe if the portals of return feels really good

[gloomy wedge]

I bet it does honestly

[dusky ingot]

Well the hole do look kinda...

[spare summit]

[gloomy wedge]

Ykw fuck it it’s cmt’s problem now give me a second

[dusky ingot]

Honestly Illusioner's Reverie isn't that great

[little steppe]

explode

[little steppe]

explode²

[dusky ingot]

Void vortex tends to do more damage to bosses like Ares from what I noticed

[spare summit]

Yeah eye of madness mogs

[dusky ingot]

Though I guess for some bosses it might work better

[little steppe]

illusioners reverie is peam in single targets

[dusky ingot]

Eye of madness also good

[spare summit]

Eye of madness for thanos and ares, reverie for hunters

[little steppe]

ares is, as you can see, not a single target

[dusky ingot]

Well he is one

[little steppe]

with 4 hitboxes other than main body

[dusky ingot]

Damn the twins keep ravaging me

[spare summit]

Sus

[ashen dirge]

is this rare

ive never seen it

i literally just started a new world and i got it

[dusky ingot]

Not really

[spare summit]

1/400 chance

[fading dove]

this is just like george orwellell's book

[white dagger]

holy spears have such bullshit hitboxes

[fading dove]

punctus is rectangle </3

[dusky ingot]

The Amalgam my glorious king

[little steppe]

spongebob better

[dusky ingot]

Amalgam gives 100x less grinding

[spare summit]

SpongeBob is barely any grinding unless you missed the rover drive in prehwrdmode

[dusky ingot]

I mean potion buffs on Amalgam

[night ibex]

whats better to use?
starboard or tracers?

[dusky ingot]

Starboard

[spare summit]

Starboard always

[little steppe]

solar wings

[dusky ingot]

Nuclear bomb vs. Coughing baby

[night ibex]

got it

thanks

[little steppe]

solar or stardust

[night ibex]

im using intergeltic armor
wont do anything

[dusky ingot]

Ye these wings also aren't a bad choice for their respective classes

[little steppe]

idc

solar are good as wings

the effect with armor doesnt really matter at all

[spare summit]

What even is grinding anymore
Grinding to me is like getting biome keys in vanilla
Apparently just playing the game to get easily obtainable accessories and doing anything besides fighting bosses is grinding now?

[night ibex]

you guys grind?
damn

[dusky ingot]

I mean that potion buffs stay on you when you have Amalgam

That's it

[spare summit]

Shimmer alchemy table potion dupe is a vanilla feature

[dusky ingot]

Not a vanilla feature, a tmodloader bug

[little steppe]

not a Tmod one

[dusky ingot]

That was also fixed I believe

[spare summit]

Ehh

Damn

Still blood orb farming is pretty easy

[little steppe]

true

[spare summit]

That’s grinding I guess but like one night (9 minutes) of farming and you’re good

[dusky ingot]

Why'd I do that if some bosses take me like 50 short attempts and I could just use 10x less potions?

[smoky dock]

blorb farming my beloved

3,000 blorbs a night

[spare summit]

Because you can use better accessories and take less attempts

Not that amalgam is bad

[dusky ingot]

But it's an accessory I'd use regardless

[little steppe]

what about all the bosses pre dog

you dont have amalgam there

[dusky ingot]

Yeah, and?

I do have it now

[little steppe]

I never used amalgam

ever

I did abuse amalgamated brain

but I couldnt fit amalgam in my accesories post dog

[ashen dirge]

any tips on first infernum run

i feel like i got a great seed

ton of chests down there

[spare summit]

For getting started it’s just like normal calamity

I fucking love glorious end

Why is it not on the class setups page

[ashen dirge]

it feels like every enemy is irritatingly fast

[limber sage]

do the 100 defense preboss build

[dusky ingot]

But remember that King Slime is quite difficult, and Desert Scourge is probably easier as a first boss

[ashen dirge]

i dont like fishing

[limber sage]

inf KS isn't that hard though?

[dusky ingot]

After first boss it tends to be a breeze until ML besides a couple bosses

[ashen dirge]

i did skeletron once on a server with my friend and that was definitely something

[spare summit]

For where it’s at in progression?
It and giant clam are weirdly hard

[dusky ingot]

I always found it pretty hard, especially compared to Desert Scourge

Which is basically the same as revengeance

[limber sage]

it's only hard if you panic

[ashen dirge]

how many steps up is infernum from calamity on classic mode

[spare summit]

Many

[limber sage]

wait, classic difficulty?

[dusky ingot]

Classic or revengeance?

Or expert?

[ashen dirge]

classic

[spare summit]

I’d recommend you play death if you haven’t

[ashen dirge]

literally classic

[dusky ingot]

Quite a bit

[ashen dirge]

cause i hadnt played it before so i figured it would be easier to learn the progression steps that way

[limber sage]

expert revengeance is the 'intended' calamity experience

[dusky ingot]

I'll tell you this - I am not the best in the world, but am also not that bad, and infernum dog took me 483 attempts

[limber sage]

you should do that before even trying infernum

maybe even expert death after expert rav

[ashen dirge]

big steps

[limber sage]

rev*

(Just don't do master calamity)

[dusky ingot]

I heard it is decently fun

Though dunno if it's true

[limber sage]

it is not

king slime is essentially a mid tier prehm boss

[dusky ingot]

I thought Master Death was decent, especially considering how trash master is in vanilla

[limber sage]

and ds is a horrific pain in the arse

[little steppe]

its decently brain damage inducing

[limber sage]

yup

you can tell the person who did the changes was already brain damaged

[maiden fjord]

/ my 1.5x speed infernum run

oh nah slime god paladin bounce into my ass in hyper speed but why the core is free af 😭

[naive rapids]

Why is Infernum old duke such a dogshit unfun boss

[dusky ingot]

Well isn't that how he normally is?

[spare summit]

That’s just old duke

[maiden fjord]

not gonna eat the aerogel pack until I beat deerclops and slime god recorded

[naive rapids]

Atleast base calamity Old duke atleast doesn't dash towards at light speed while your Dash is still on cooldown

[spare summit]

You’re gonna love yharon and dog
Also infernum halves dash cooldown

[limber sage]

asgard valor + ambergris = easy old duke

[maiden fjord]

not gonna lie some bosses will deadass just dash bait troll

[limber sage]

also

he has a sound queue for dashing

[little steppe]

beacuse its dog

infernum dog is atleast infinitely better than base dog

even if its mid

[dusky ingot]

How do I only learn about this now?

[little steppe]

yeah normal cd is ½ a second I think

inf is ¼ iirc

[limber sage]

https://youtu.be/j_BlqanTl2A
Likely not your setup but, even with me choking a few times I still survive and win easily

ambergris is extremely good for bosses like Old duke

[maiden fjord]

man I'm shivering for what I'm gonna witness later
I wonder what 1.5x speed dog would be. let alone yharon.

[dusky ingot]

Exos are basically same in infernum and revengeance

Pure BS

Hate that fight

[spare summit]

At least in revengeance it’s easy

Ares twins combo isn’t that bad though

[dreamy tide]

DOES multiplayer infenrum work

[spare summit]

Not very well but it can

[dreamy tide]

how so

whats wrong with it

[spare summit]

I’m not sure, never tried it but people keep coming in here and asking how to fix it when it breaks for them

[dreamy tide]

they need a patch for it then

or something

[spare summit]

There is, it got merged into ibfernum already
That’s why it’s possible to begin with

It’s like master infernum patch, for some it works fine and for some it bugs out

[dreamy tide]

so do i need the master infenrum patch?

[worthy solar]

Hello..i need help about the entropy mod,

What is this armor prefix attachment thingy?

[spare summit]

Not unless you’re playing master infernum

[worthy solar]

It says right click on the armor to add a prefix but it did nothing?

[dusky ingot]

1 boss simply does not work

And the bosses simply were designed around singleplayer, so they just won't be as fun in multi

[barren epoch]

how do i fight xg07 mars

nvm figured it out

had to do another solyn conversation which meant first watching her go check out the dungeon for like the 8th time

[naive rapids]

I'm building an arena for dog how high should my platforms be

[tardy cedar]

kind of

2 bosses break

moon lord and profaned guardians

[barren epoch]

how the hell am i supposed to beat the avatar of emptiness

this is wild

[terse sky]

Does the providence temple spawn in Getfixboi seed (using the For the worthy infernum mod)

[thin canyon]

so

guys
should i melee exo mech

no armor ?

with wotm enabled

[thin canyon]

ig spacing around 20-30 tiles if you want to do old style

spacing around 5-6 if you want to do cheese

[spare summit]

i say more

unless you want to cheese like 30-50

[thin canyon]

no need to be that much

cheesing aka coiling basically need minimal arena setup

mine only like

5 platforms
6 tiles spacing

used for all 3 class run and still fine

i might need to build bigger on my summoner run

[thin canyon]

yharon:

and dog 6th portal ram

[maiden fjord]

true

[barren epoch]

oooh i forgot about profaned soul crystal

that will probably be very good against the avatar of emptiness

[lyric kiln]

hmm, this AlchNPC combination potion probably need to be updated

also, it doesn't seem to actually be giving the Purple Haze effect at all, either the defense drop or the damage increase

I assume because it's incorrectly trying to give you a buff that doesn't exist anymore

honestly, I prefer that anyways, it's always been kind of weird that this AlchNPC combination potion insists upon you having an alcohol with a negative effect to it in your combination portion

[drowsy falcon]

angler at sulfuric sea or ocean

[tight fog]

yeah a portion of the alchemistnpc features seem sort of placed in there without much second thought

[dim aurora]

Doesnt matter

[spare summit]

get it at the sulfur sea and feed it to a trasher for a free golden rod

[lyric kiln]

Ocean makes him spawn via floating in on the waves, Sulphur Sea makes him pop out of the first Trasher you kill

so up to you if you want to take the peaceful or violent approach I guess

[crystal trellis]

guys i have to move my painter into corruption to buy the painting for soul but i cant cuz it says house corrupted what do i do

[lyric kiln]

I'm fine with most of the stuff, but it is kind of silly that even the "Lite" version of AlchNPC still inserts a bunch of "non-Calamity buff potions" on the Calamity page

they can be turned off in the config, but why are they there in the first place?

[lyric kiln]

capture him via any NPC capturing method, then drop him off there

probably bug net

alternatively, build a house, move him in, then corrupt the surrounding area

depending on if you have Biome Fountains enabled, that could potentially be as easy as placing down a fountain

or build a house above the corruption, move him in, then remove the floor, thus dropping him into the corruption

or build a house near the corruption, and hope he wanders in

[crystal trellis]

ahh thx

[drowsy falcon]

already did that I just wanted a plyon at either but i made a magic conch with 3 oasis crates

[fiery mango]

See here’s the funny thing

Apparently it’s not

It just happens on first kill

Though I’ve heard all sorts now

I’m pretty sure the first ND kill crashing the game isn’t intentional?

Yerp

It’s just another Wrath-ism

[grim falcon]

whar

[thin canyon]

[grim falcon]

also what fragments from DoG you're implying

[waxen tide]

wrath of the machines were always possible on multiplayer tho

[autumn sluice]

nuh uh

[waxen tide]

?

[autumn sluice]

i checked one source, too lazy to check if it actually does work

[autumn sluice]

ur right chatgpt lied to me

[waxen tide]

chat gpt🥀

[grim falcon]

😭

why did you ask ones and zeros of this

[autumn sluice]

i asked it again and it switched up from "no it is not multiplayer" to "yes it does"

[grim falcon]

rule 1. never ask ai questions

[frigid sail]

the borber

[hearty solstice]

im playing fargos eternity for the first time what class should i play

[grim falcon]

real

[autumn sluice]

none, you should stop now while you atill have your sanity

[grim falcon]

fargos eternity isnt that bad

[hearty solstice]

lol i want thr challenge though

[autumn sluice]

maybe im just bad at the game

[waxen tide]

eternity isnt too hard

[autumn sluice]

melee

[pale mulch]

Why is the Hive Mind so damn difficult.

It's too damn fast to dodge it this early in the game.

[autumn sluice]

terraspark boots are preboss so just get them

[fast nacelle]

Amphibian boots on top

[dim aurora]

Since when is AI a reliable source of info

[fast nacelle]

💯

[autumn sluice]

i now realize that it is never reliable

[wicked creek]

Infernum?

[pale mulch]

Eternity Death Maso

[wicked creek]

Oh rip lol

[dim aurora]

No shits ur struggling

[fast nacelle]

Show gear

And what type of setup do u want

[autumn sluice]

cooked

[fast nacelle]

Guys masochist death isn’t that baf

[pale mulch]

Was starting to do a Melee build, switched to Ranger because I can't reach sh1t if half the bosses I'm fighting pre-hardmode is flying.

[fast nacelle]

I meant like debuff build or something

[fast nacelle]

Yikes

[dim aurora]

How do you mix the difficulties

[autumn sluice]

why you fighting hive mind in platinum armor

[pale mulch]

i am following the boss checklist even though I know I should skip it.

and go straight for an aerospec.

I am that much aware but still, I am limiting myself as if I am following a lore when there is no lore but the story.

[fast nacelle]

Use fossil armor/crimson/shadow/victide, don’t use shield, use rain enchantment, use tin enchantment if you can dodge, and rich mahogany is very good burst of speed

[pale mulch]

Also I can't mine the Aeralite ore.

Locked pre-skele I assume.

[fast nacelle]

Get molten pickaxe

[autumn sluice]

you need to beat hivemind for aereolite

[fast nacelle]

And it’s post evil 2

[pale mulch]

Already have one.

[fast nacelle]

Peak

[pale mulch]

Platinum Armor have served me well up until this damn hive mind boss came along.

[fast nacelle]

(Perforator/hive mind)

[autumn sluice]

molten is 100% power, unenchanted aeralite you need 115%, omce you beat hivemind or perforator it becomes enchanted and only take 65%

[fast nacelle]

Oh thought you were doing eater

[dim aurora]

Its post perfs/ hive

[pale mulch]

I already defeated BoC and EoW.

What's next on the list is the Hive Mind.

[autumn sluice]

have you tried skelington or queen bee?

[fast nacelle]

Use armors I mentioned, use rich mahogany enchantment, (if debuff build) use wulfrum enchantment, abyssal amulet and fire boots (if general build) lava rose skull, jungle enchantment or ancient cobalt and something you can choose

[lyric kiln]

Jungle Enchantment and Crimson Enchantment is what really solved that fight for me

[pale mulch]

Not yet, I'm following the checklist.

[lyric kiln]

Crimson Enchantment because I usually took individual very large hits, rather than a lot of small hits

and Jungle Enchantment just to unify my jump boost and dash items into one slot

[lyric kiln]

giving me an extra accessory

[autumn sluice]

if you cant beat hivemind i recommend trying either skelington or queen bee

[lyric kiln]

Hive Mind is a very difficult boss for where it's placed yeah

[pale mulch]

I already have seven accessory with one dedicated for the boots.

[lyric kiln]

seven?

Six is wing slot extra

how the hell do you have seven

[pale mulch]

Boots.

[lyric kiln]

boot slot?

[echo sleet]

is this skylake enough to give me sky crates on infernnum? i'm on 568 height

[lyric kiln]

wild

[pale mulch]

Yeah, downloaded it from a previous run.

Hey, it's my first time playing modded and I went straight to hell give me some slack.

[dim aurora]

2 extra slots is cheating atp

[pale mulch]

I haven't even tried Master mode in vanilla yet here I am.

It's modded, it's on us what we want to do with our modlist.

[lyric kiln]

are you playing Eternity + Revengeance, Eternity + Death, or just Eternity?

or, uh, just Revengeance?

[pale mulch]

I have Eternity - Death selected and Masochist mode enabled.

[lyric kiln]

oh, that's probably excessive

why

[echo sleet]

anyone knows?

[pale mulch]

I don't know, I was playing Hogwarts Legacy and a week later I am playing a modded Terraria run with pumped - up difficulty setting and I haven't even tried Undertale and DS.

[lyric kiln]

Eternity + Revengeance will get you the same experience without needless stat inflation

[dim aurora]

If it fishes anything it should also fish sky stuff

[echo sleet]

well i haven't been getting any sky crates

are there skylake exclusive fish?

[dim aurora]

Not sure ask wiki

[autumn sluice]

harpy fish

[echo sleet]

isn't harpy fish quest item?

[lyric kiln]

the thing about Masochist Mode in particular is that it doesn't make the enemies any different, just inflates their damage numbers

[autumn sluice]

oh, yeah it is

[lyric kiln]

and health

[pale mulch]

Oh, have you finished a run with it? How was it?

[lyric kiln]

anyways, if you're up against that degree of damage inflation, you want to prioritize two things

1. Damage above all else. At that level of enemy damage, flat defense and even DR barely matters. Your goal is primarily just to burst down enemies as fast as possible.

2. The very few ways to mitigate a large percentage of damage taken, eg: Crimson Enchantment

[pale mulch]

Okay, I'll try again with the set of recommendations from this conversation.

[lyric kiln]

I guess also 3. Never getting hit

so mobility is key

if you've got wing slot and boot slot extra, you have no excuse not to have full mobility equips

[dim aurora]

Like bro i swear whenever i ask something the SIMPLEST advice about my fucking loadout i have to ask 2-3 separate times before anyone answers, or just ignore me

[pale mulch]

It would really help if these mods have a collaborative guide but that is asking too much, (I know Cal has a guide, but Fargo has an outdated one, what I meant was FargoCal collaborative guide for the DLC)

But then again, we can always lower the difficulty.

[lyric kiln]

The main things to remember, if you're doing Soul + Calamity.

1. Soul mod accessories are incredibly busted strong, but also generally don't give just raw stats, instead giving weird minigames and such. As such, Soul mod accessories are usually good options to look at and strongly consider taking, because they're above the average power level of Calamity accessories, but loading up too much on them can leave you with too many weird conditional things and not enough raw stats, so it's a balance.

2. The main exception to this is the class essence that you get after mech bosses, you throw that on and never take it off until you get the class soul

[pale mulch]

It's still fun, and that what matters to be honest. But it does get frustrating when a boss is a bit quirky.

[lyric kiln]

like I said, honestly, masochist in particular barely changes the actual gameplay experience, but just makes damage and health way more inflated

[dim aurora]

Is there a way to make my plant arena as big so that i can safely just get away from attacks instead of being cornered while not enraging her

In infernum

[lyric kiln]

The plantera enrage is based on number of nearby active solid blocks

so

probably not

[dim aurora]

Even the natural arena isnt big enough and i expanded it, the middle isnt jungle

Lile bro im watching a nohit vid and where are they getting these maps from

[lyric kiln]

I think there's a world you can download somewhere

[quasi dock]

um... anyone know why the portal to lost colosseum isn't working?

[dim aurora]

I already downloaded elysium or whatever its called

But yeah no

No biomes except ocean

[lyric kiln]

no idea then, I've never really done the whole nohit or specialized arena thing

[wicked creek]

How about you actuate mud blocks?

To make the middle into jungle too?

(with jungle grass too of course

[dim aurora]

Dunno if they count when "unactive"

[lyric kiln]

I seem to remember at least one of the various mods changed Plantera and Polterghast to be based on number of nearby active blocks specifically, but idk if I'm remembering right. But yeah, actuated jungle blocks is always a classic

[wicked creek]

They do for biome purposes

[lyric kiln]

it's how I made my Aquatic Scourge arena super tall, inactive sulphurous sand

[dim aurora]

Thats alotta work but i dont care planteras my most hated boss

[lyric kiln]

alternatively

Biome Fountains

good old Biome Fountains

[dim aurora]

Welp thanks ill try it

Oh and also should i replace radiant ooze with grand gelatine

[lyric kiln]

still needs to be underground, but an underground arena with Jungle Biome Fountains should honestly work

[dim aurora]

Running melee

[silver loom]

guys are there any upgrades for summoner after defeating 1 mech?

[dim aurora]

Optic staff and durendal

[silver loom]

im on calamity..

[dim aurora]

If on calamity no

[silver loom]

dang

[quasi dock]

ok, yeah, this just seems to be bugged and I can't do vassal

that sucks, but like, we can live with that probably

[silver loom]

did u try to reloading the world?

[quasi dock]

yes

[thin canyon]

jump in and pause game

it was infernum being funny

just jump in and pause the game when you're inside

[quasi dock]

yeah, that worked

thanks

[silver loom]

i just killed another mech is there any upgrades now?

(i have titanium and adamantite)

for summoner

[dim aurora]

I just answered.

Its only optic staff wether or not it needs hallow bars or not

Just beat all the mechs dude

[silver loom]

oh okay

[quasi dock]

post 2 mechs, daedalus staff does get unlocked, but daedalus staff is pretty bad

[pale mulch]

fucking brilliant, died to fall damage instead of dying to the hive mind 40% in

[autumn sluice]

which mech did you beat?

[silver loom]

destroyer and skeletron

[quasi dock]

you can't make the optic staff until post all 3 mechs since it needs hallowed bars, no?

[dim aurora]

Yes

[silver loom]

u dont need hallowed bars for optic staff

[autumn sluice]

it only take souls of sight lenses and one black lens

[silver loom]

yeah

and a mythril anvil

[quasi dock]

oh, does Calamity change the recipe?

[autumn sluice]

also doesnt calamity have a summon that makes a mini destroyer fight for you

[quasi dock]

that's pretty neat, I didn't know that

[silver loom]

i think so

[silver loom]

what.

[dim aurora]

Thats a pet

[silver loom]

chat is this real

[quasi dock]

sorry :3

[quasi dock]

yeah, vanilla recipe needs hallowed bars and I didn't know calamity changed it

[silver loom]

guys should i use a titanium railgun instead of a cool whip?

[dim aurora]

Thats why i said wether or not it needs bars

[quasi dock]

if you want to

up to you shrugs

[dim aurora]

Why.

No

[daring willow]

is there no nohit channel here or anything? i need the rules and mods and such

[autumn sluice]

calamity fargos eternity death masochist hardcore getting hit by anything you need to reset the world and character

[daring willow]

fuck all that

XD

[autumn sluice]

we all believe in you

[daring willow]

i wanna do a proper inf nohit run

inf is too easy when you can get hit

[silver loom]

omfg i wouldve killed twins but i didnt have enough time i had him on 2%

[quasi dock]

nice :D

[silver loom]

1st try twins 🤑

queen slime was lowk the hardest to kill

[solar badger]

hiii, im on my first playthrough, whats the recommended gear and weapon to fight trojan squirrel?

[silver loom]

what mod are u playing?

[solar badger]

fargos + calamity + wotg + hotog

[silver loom]

dang bro gl

[solar badger]

but what do you recommend before fighting it??

[pale mulch]

Still cant defeat the hive mind

[rapid ore]

Is there an addon that merges thorium and calamity throwers?

By which I mean you get to use techniques and stealth strikes using the same weapon

[silver loom]

well i never played that i only played calamity

[wicked creek]

I believe the trojan squirrel is one of the first bosses, if not the absolute first

Indeed, Fargo's souls wiki has it at pre king slime

[pale mulch]

i cant avoid taking damage from the hive mind

its too squirmish

and i can't activate the crimson enchantment

seven seconds is too long

[gloomy wedge]

Anything

It’s a boss intended to be fought with day 1 equipment

[waxen tide]

wand of sparking🤤

[thick acorn]

hey, so i'm looking for stuff kinda similar to wrath of the gods that add a small amout of really fun new bosses and other things. any suggestions? i've heard the name entropy be thrown around

[viscid yoke]

what will happen next when this mist comes?

[gloomy wedge]

The Fog Is Coming.

[thick acorn]

its just to spook you

it'll go eventually

[viscid yoke]

thank you

[gloomy wedge]

Also don’t use cal overhaul

[dim aurora]

Wand of frosting>>>

[viscid yoke]

\

[dim aurora]

Ew calamity overhaul

Dogshit mod

[viscid yoke]

why overhaul bad ?

[gloomy wedge]

pins

[little steppe]

read pins

[gloomy wedge]

Steals code and can brick your world

[little steppe]

just play stars above

it has the weapons overhaul stole

lmao

[viscid yoke]

Oh thank you

This is the first time I play mod

[little steppe]

the first calamity run?

I recommend no addons

[gloomy wedge]

If you’re playing modded for the first time you really shouldn’t be using all these addons just saying

But a bit too far in to remove any of them so

Have fun with that

[viscid yoke]

thank you

[dim aurora]

Whats a crafting grid

[thick acorn]

i'd say Wrath of the gods is fine for a first run

[dim aurora]

No.

[little steppe]

nah

[dim aurora]

Its recommended to finish vanilla before doing addons

[little steppe]

thats for a second run

wotg is a good second run

[gloomy wedge]

Wrath of the gods basically requires you understand regular calamity progression first

[viscid yoke]

yeah, I already done vanilla

[thick acorn]

i did wotg my first time and felt fine without knowing much

[little steppe]

you did calamity alone?

[thick acorn]

apart from books i kinda just ignored everything until i beat Scal, then grabbed the seeds

[viscid yoke]

no, I buy terraria in pack 4 and play with 3 others

[little steppe]

no I mean calamity without addons

not alone as in singleplayer

[viscid yoke]

oh

no

this run is the first modded terraria for me

[little steppe]

I'd say go do that

unless you already progressed a considerable amount in that world

[viscid yoke]

yeah, I think I will do it

[thick acorn]

is W.O.T.G really considered bad for new players? apart from some dialogue i thought it was just post-calamitas content

[little steppe]

its a the-whole-game content

specially most moonlord tho

[cedar ridge]

are t the 3 bosses post scal

[little steppe]

yea

but wotg isnt just bosses

[cedar ridge]

i wonder if dog would eat nameless diety

[little steppe]

example: the big evil rift eating your sun

[cedar ridge]

yeah

[thick acorn]

i think he would be humbled HARD

[little steppe]

dog gets obliterated by being near nd

I doubt dog is THAT stupid tho

to try eating nd

[thick acorn]

he's that prideful

[fading dove]

he would be snapped like a twig

[pastel sphinx]

#1 reason I used wotg in my first ever playthru

[little steppe]

nah I doubt DoG would get in a fight he knows he just loses

[pastel sphinx]

In some altenate universe

Deus killed DoG

[fading dove]

yeah isnt dog's whole thing that he only takes fights he thinks he can clean up easy

[thick acorn]

do you think DoG would try to take on avatar of emptiness?

[pastel sphinx]

Also DoG and gods is still just creation of ND

to keep balance of world

right?

[little steppe]

yeah

[little steppe]

hell nah

[little steppe]

no DoG is from distortion and I dont think wotg lore changes that

[pastel sphinx]

Oh wait yeah

[little steppe]

(do note that wotg isnt canon)

[pastel sphinx]

Then who is deity of distortion...?

[fading dove]

if each universe has its own distortion then nameless did make it considering he's a creator deity

noxus

[little steppe]

none

[fading dove]

possibly

[little steppe]

theres no deity

noxus does rule it

[fading dove]

noxus is something

[little steppe]

but it isnt a deity

[thick acorn]

also i like how before i was saying how wotg isn't bad for beginners while simulatenously shoving both my friends in the deep end with infernum + WOTG + catalyst... i'm a great friend

[little steppe]

noxus is a creature

[pastel sphinx]

...Noxus IS RULER OF DISTORTION??

[fading dove]

shits some kinda weird ass hive mind

[silver loom]

why is plantera on infernum soo easy

all i needed was a rod of discord

[fading dove]

not to be confused with the remnants of a dead god, Hive Mind

[pastel sphinx]

Every boss is easy as hell if you can dodge

[little steppe]

beacuse plant will never escape the circling: the boss allegations

[thick acorn]

was noxus the one who first took a dragon's soul or was that xeroc?

[little steppe]

thats xeroc

[pastel sphinx]

Thats xeroc

[raven vapor]

noxus is a god

xeroc is a monk

[little steppe]

noxus didnt consume a soul

[pastel sphinx]

I believe he's not

[silver loom]

well i think this far i was struggling the most with queen slime for some reason?

[cedar ridge]

what does it even mean to be a god if you can still die

[little steppe]

false

[raven vapor]

xeroc used to be the nameless diety

[thick acorn]

ah, keep getting the names mixed up

[little steppe]

xeroc is a god noxus is something

[fading dove]

that you ate an auric soul

[pastel sphinx]

and exactly xeroc "USED TO BE" monk

[cedar ridge]

yeah so what

what do you get when you eat it

do you get powers

[raven vapor]

yes

[pastel sphinx]

Xeroc absorbed some dragon auric soul, become a ancient god

[cedar ridge]

do you transform

[fading dove]

absurd power and ruling over a domain of the universe

[raven vapor]

and thats why the dragon got their souls ated

[pastel sphinx]

Wait

[little steppe]

yea you usually transform

[pastel sphinx]

ND isn't same with xeroc right

[little steppe]

providence used to be human

[cedar ridge]

did yharim eat one

[fading dove]

for example, providence consumed the soul of the dragon of fire

no

[little steppe]

no

[fading dove]

he's attuned with yharon though

[pastel sphinx]

It's same?

[fading dove]

which is a big thing

[raven vapor]

it used to be

[cedar ridge]

so how is yharim a tyrant

[raven vapor]

like in old lore

[cedar ridge]

and ruling over everyone

[gloomy wedge]

Anyone know a way to cheese inf dog beyond some very intricate teleporter/minecart setups

[cedar ridge]

just kill him

[little steppe]

nd and xeroc are different

[pastel sphinx]

DoG brainwashed them

[thick acorn]

he was supposed to eat yharon's but they became best buds

[thick acorn]

he's just kind of a depressed cunt

[cedar ridge]

yharim or his opps

[fading dove]

fun fact! they tried to do that!

[raven vapor]

DoG is like the sole reason calamity mod world is shitty

[pastel sphinx]

Yharim

[little steppe]

human without powers who just hits hard enough

[raven vapor]

alongside draedon

[cedar ridge]

bro isn't dog a creation

[fading dove]

braelor and statis almost did it!

[cedar ridge]

by draedon

or something

[gloomy wedge]

Oh yeah who is statis and why does he have a belt

[little steppe]

no

[fading dove]

but then the evil space worm came and threw them in the evil dimension

[pastel sphinx]

Not at all

[raven vapor]

that's thanatos

thanatos is based off of dog

[pastel sphinx]

it's just cosmic worm that eats and absorb god's soul to make themself stronger

[fading dove]

dog's armour is made by draedon

[pastel sphinx]

from other world*

[thick acorn]

i think draedon gave him some armour

[little steppe]

false

[raven vapor]

do we even know how old is DoG?

[little steppe]

he does eat souls but not to get stronger

[fading dove]

nope

[gloomy wedge]

At least 14

[pastel sphinx]

I mean yeah

[fading dove]

all we know is that maybe storm weaver's older

[little steppe]

he eats beacuse ??? (probably to provide them to noxus)

[pastel sphinx]

I mean

uh

[raven vapor]

that isnt consistent with the lore item

[fading dove]

lore items are also written by yharim

[gloomy wedge]

I really don’t understand calamity lore in the slightest but I like reading bestiary entries

They’re pretty neat

[little steppe]

also yharim knows shit about biology

[raven vapor]

but now the lore says storm weaver could be a different species

[little steppe]

he thinks weaver and dog are same species

[fading dove]

draedon says that storm weaver is not the same species as dog and is likely older

[little steppe]

however that is yharim being a dumbass

[pastel sphinx]

Yharim is dumb

[little steppe]

and draedon says theyre not the same in drsetalk

[fading dove]

true yharim sees himself as a fallen hero

[pastel sphinx]

confirmed

My grammar wildin tday

[raven vapor]

but there is no way dog is only a few thousand years old

[fading dove]

who knows

[raven vapor]

his age is probably in the millions

[pastel sphinx]

I don't believe dog did live for like that long

[fading dove]

we'll probably get more info when distortion update comes out

[pastel sphinx]

How do you explain how long did yharim live then

I mean

[fading dove]

attuned to the dragon of rebirth

[little steppe]

dragon attunment

[raven vapor]

although for sure AD is in the millions

[pastel sphinx]

Yup

[little steppe]

gives him physical prime despite being ~130 yo

though he will die eventually cuz age

[gloomy wedge]

Ok seriously what’s the deal with all the dragons

[thick acorn]

random side note btw, am i right in saying that yharim seemingly wants the terrarian to beat him? if so imagine we lose and he's just like "well... shit"

[fading dove]

attunement is a big thing

[pastel sphinx]

Just... ask draedon to make yharobot

[raven vapor]

yharon , permafrost and calamitas are also in the thousands

[fading dove]

he likely wants you to take his place and kill the few remaining gods

[thick acorn]

think dark souls where every tiny thing can be traced back to dragons just existing and people taking offense to that

[fading dove]

permafrost is somewhere around 500 iirc

[pastel sphinx]

Did yall know

[fading dove]

and cal is less than 100

[gloomy wedge]

I don’t know dark souls lore either

[raven vapor]

really thats it??

[pastel sphinx]

that old calamity lore sounds stupid as hell

[gloomy wedge]

All I know is that nameless king is a fun fight

[little steppe]

yharim wants you to replace him, he knows theres no time left as he is old as fuck so he want a replacement for "god killer fuck" title

[uncut ocean]

i thought cal was like 30

[raven vapor]

that sounds young as hell

[thick acorn]

well, just explained it in a nutshell there

[little steppe]

she is ~28

[gloomy wedge]

If I had a nickel for every time a boss named nameless something had really intricate lore I didn’t understand but also was just fun to fight so I didn’t care for the lore

[pastel sphinx]

1. DoG has royality to yharim
2. Draedon was alien with some mechanical armour
3. DoG found draedon floating in space

[thick acorn]

yea, so imagine he just beats you. "well... shit... the hell do i do now?"

[fading dove]

one of the few things yharim does regret is grooming calamitas but he's fine with the genocide

[thick acorn]

based

[little steppe]

false, draedon is a robot created by ??? in a thundra

[cedar ridge]

you gotta do what you gotta do sometimes

[pastel sphinx]

It's stupidly old calamity lore

[gloomy wedge]

I can accept murdering millions in cold blood but I draw the line at being Problematic

[pastel sphinx]

like back to 2017

Indeed I know that

[little steppe]

yeah

[pale mulch]

Would you guys recommend Aestheticus against Hive Mind?

[raven vapor]

by grooming you mean mentally manipulating her to be genocidal or???

[thick acorn]

you call it genocide, i call it population management

[fading dove]

wasnt draedon still an armoured alien back in 2017

[pastel sphinx]

Undertale:

[cedar ridge]

what if she was secretly evil and is blaming yharim

[gloomy wedge]

I wouldn’t recommend Aestheticus

[pale mulch]

What would you recommend?

[gloomy wedge]

Snapthorn

[thick acorn]

EXACTLY, sans just couldn't do what needed to be done

[pale mulch]

I can only graze Hive Mind up to 50% of its life.

[uncut ocean]

let me manage the population by deleting the world

[pastel sphinx]

[pale mulch]

Copy, will try again.

[raven vapor]

what about the fargos bosses

[pale mulch]

Hive Mind is pissing me off too much

[raven vapor]

there has to be some lore on those

[gloomy wedge]

Their lore is HOLY SHIT DEVIANTT IS SO GOD DAMN FUN

[fading dove]

[pastel sphinx]

Yharon OST would be great if it had freedom motifs

[thick acorn]

is hivemind much different from perforater? i always go crimson for the brain of confusion