calamity-addon-talk

[dusky ingot]

Tuff man

[smoky dock]

That's way more than necessary

[fading dove]

i dont think ive ever reached 40% in either direction in my platformless arena

[wicked oar]

is it a way to spawn biome mimics easily with a qol mod or something'

[fading dove]

put a key of light or night in an empty chest and close it

[dusky ingot]

You can put a key of light/night in a chest\

And it turns into a biome mimic

[smoky dock]

yeah there's a really cool qol mod which lets you spawn about two per second

[wicked oar]

yeh i know, but if a npc sold the key or sum

[fading dove]

doesnt go underground because thats not needed 🤤

[dusky ingot]

But I think Deviant from Fargo's mutant sells some summons for mimics, but not sure if not just for the regular ones

[smoky dock]

it's called terraria but idk how to find it in the mod browser

[wicked oar]

sells soul of light after mechanical boss

wanna try the celestial claymore, anyone know if its any good?

[smoky dock]

queen slime dropps a healthy sum of souls of light

[dusky ingot]

Very good

[smoky dock]

If you use a crazy overpowered weapon you can stomp QS

[dusky ingot]

If it's the weapon I'm thinking of

[smoky dock]

I've never used it it's false meleee

[wicked oar]

doing queen slime rn, using the caustic edge, kinda hard to get good hits on her with that

[smoky dock]

I like Bladetongue, consider that

I got 1:03 with that

[dusky ingot]

I mean, not sure if it'll be the best for queen slime, but it is good for a lot of bosses

[dusky ingot]

Bro didn't even use fractured Ark for 99% of the game

💀

[smoky dock]

wha

[wicked oar]

fishing............

[smoky dock]

What the hell is fractured Ark

[dusky ingot]

The weapon that can parry

But if you don't parry it's basically true melee

[smoky dock]

I have never heard of that wtf?

Whatever if it's false melee I don't want it. Evil.

[gloomy wedge]

what

[fading dove]

take the challenge

[gloomy wedge]

hardcore, no

[fading dove]

three early bird bosses

[dusky ingot]

It has the option to be true melee, cause if you parry it starts shooting projectiles, but without that it can be a cool true melee weapon

[fading dove]

plantera, duke, and empress

[smoky dock]

I do not WANT IT

[fading dove]

empress' early bird is a bit more esoteric

[smoky dock]

I've never seen footage of it, I've never used it, I've never seen its recipe or how it's obtained, I don't care

Bad weapon

[fading dove]

requiring celebrationmk10 and waiting for grass to stretch down to the surface

though she's also post wof through tree treasures and iirc pixie drops

[gloomy wedge]

i dont LIKE true melee, i LOVE true melee

and if it has a projectile, i dont use it

[smoky dock]

True melee is my bebby

I love her

[wicked oar]

is it just by fishing

[smoky dock]

yeah just by fishing

[dusky ingot]

In crimson

[smoky dock]

if you're in a corruption world you gotta either make an artificial crimson or shimmer a Toxicarp

[dusky ingot]

Toxicrap*

[smoky dock]

srty i don't use it i never saw it used i never considered using it i never will use it

[dusky ingot]

yeah it's a r*nger weapon

One of the worst there are, even among that trash

[frail brook]

is legendary masochist death too easy for a co op world

[dusky ingot]

Yeah

Get Satanist

[fading dove]

oh thats fucked up

godslayer dash doesn't function properly when holding a portal gun

[dusky ingot]

Why not? Do you just fall fast?

[fading dove]

it lasts for one frame

[dusky ingot]

AH

[fading dove]

well

when aiming it down

[neon dew]

hmmm what mage weapon should I use against infernum DoG?

[dusky ingot]

The one that drops from polter

It's very good

[fading dove]

vitriolic viper if you want meta, nebula arcanum if you're fucked up

[neon dew]

fate's reveal?

[dusky ingot]

Yeah

[fading dove]

fate's reveal isn't great due to dog having a body

[dusky ingot]

And use Omega blue

And all menacing

[neon dew]

aight

[dusky ingot]

Ehh, good enough for me

[neon dew]

is slagsplitter pauldron good

for him

[dusky ingot]

You can also try the viper

[fading dove]

weaponless yeah its good

[neon dew]

also should I use boots or wings?

[wicked oar]

damn i HATE fishing

[dusky ingot]

I'd probably rather use the accessory from Leviathan that makes your dash longer and faster I think

[fading dove]

i want you to try and outrun dog

[dusky ingot]

Wings

[wicked oar]

hope the Bladetongue is worth it

[neon dew]

oooh ambergris?

[dusky ingot]

I can tell this for certain: When using Fate's Reveal, when DoG went into phase 2 I just activated Rage, Adrenaline and set bonus, and nuked him from 80% to 20% instantly, so I'd say that setup is good enough

[neon dew]

I'm intending to go pretty much entirely offense

[dusky ingot]

I liked it

[neon dew]

aight

[dusky ingot]

Not sure if it's great, but feels slightly more consistent to me

[fading dove]

i like my fucked up nohit

wait

i still have to actually do it

[dusky ingot]

Though something like a Cherished Sealocket or Amalgamated brain are also accessories to consider, since they let you survive a hit or 2

[fading dove]

sealocket lets you comfortably tank head with no life fruit

[daring willow]

https://medal.tv/games/terraria/clips/kL4gYgp5rLsjF5E_9?invite=cr-MSxNcTEsMjEzMDc1MTE3 th is the most comforting thing to do after getting dev stuff ong

[fading dove]

i love my horribly fucked up loadout

[daring willow]

somehow it counted as a nohit but like this is too fun

dog can fuck off

[smoky dock]

hell yeah

[daring willow]

why dont you have an armor set 😭

[silver loom]

so ur like pre dog with solar armor lol?

[gloomy wedge]

personally i found ambergris to be

pretty pointless on dog lol

[daring willow]

i love my normal ass loadout 😭

[gloomy wedge]

like it kinda helps but only barely

i'd say you get a lot more value out of stuff like sealocket

[dusky ingot]

Well honestly, I don't know about others, but that little bit was all I needed to dodge DoG pretty consistently

[daring willow]

name a better weapon

[neon dew]

where does vitriolic viper come from?

[dusky ingot]

Though I guess it depends on how many non-essential accessory slots a person has

[fading dove]

old duke

[fading dove]

because this gives the highest damage

[dusky ingot]

Kaleidoscope

[daring willow]

no😭

[neon dew]

got it oki

[daring willow]

my summoner loadout just finished today

should i go mele or ranger next?

[dusky ingot]

That's a summoner build?

[daring willow]

it got me through so yeah ig 😭

[fading dove]

thats all rogue accessories

and the rogue helmet

[daring willow]

og

thats myrogue lmao

hold up

thats my summoner

[dusky ingot]

Makes more sense

[daring willow]

is ranger or mele more fun for inf? im gonna start another world maybe tomorrow

[dusky ingot]

I thought I missed some new summoner meta

[daring willow]

wulfram armor glitch with splitter 😭

[smoky dock]

I would rather pull teeth than use rang*r

[gloomy wedge]

hardcore prepping because im paranoid

[spare summit]

Storm maiden’s retribution

[daring willow]

but ranger hass some cool ass endgame stuff

[spare summit]

Also stealth rogue

[daring willow]

wat in the fucky

[smoky dock]

i would rather. pull. teeth than use. rang. *r.

[dusky ingot]

No not really

All ranger weapons are pretty lame honestly

[daring willow]

so go mele?

[spare summit]

Ranger to make lihzahrd mad

[daring willow]

i dont really remember the base game things even for mele

i havnt touched mele class for like 6 years lmao

[spare summit]

You can’t really go wrong with either

[daring willow]

which is better for nohit

[spare summit]

Aside from like pre boss melee

[dusky ingot]

Melee

[daring willow]

i think im gonna do a nohit run before trying to speedrun it again

[dusky ingot]

Cause you can true melee things

And that's funi

And kills quickly

[spare summit]

Also don’t try to true melee nohit unless you hate yourself

[daring willow]

but can it do what my rogue did to dog lmao

[daring willow]

thaats the point

[spare summit]

Whatever you did to dog Corinth prime can do it better

[daring willow]

https://medal.tv/games/terraria/clips/kL4gYgp5rLsjF5E_9?invite=cr-MSxiZmUsMjEzMDc1MTE3

[spare summit]

On tier

[daring willow]

92k ddmg in 1 hit?

[rare jacinth]

does this weapon have a rare drop rate or is there a prerequisite

[spare summit]

Of course endgame weapons will kill dog in seconds

[daring willow]

i mean endgame

for bossrush

[spare summit]

Then no nothing surpasses storm maiden’s retribution

Which is also rogue

Stealth

[rare jacinth]

i dont think corinth is good against infernum dog

[spare summit]

You gotta aim away

[daring willow]

nah my storm does like 76k dmg

[rare jacinth]

just what i've heard though

[spare summit]

Killed it faster than holy collider

[daring willow]

scar does 92k

[rare jacinth]

damn

[spare summit]

My storm does over 400k

[gloomy wedge]

1/20 drop from ml

[rare jacinth]

thanky

[spare summit]

Oneshot everything in boss rush besides post prov bosses

[daring willow]

is mele prehm meta going for oathbreaker straight away?

[spare summit]

That’s not valid for nohit rules

But if you’re not following those then yeah

[daring willow]

nah im not doing a challenge run just somthing fun for practice so i can do proper nohits down the line

[spare summit]

Then sure

[daring willow]

this will be my 3rd full calam char

[rare jacinth]

do you know if it drops from the bag or ml itself?

[daring willow]

i only started calam 4 or so days ago

[rare jacinth]

the bag has so many items it eats my inventory space

[tall musk]

What's best way to farm gold pre hm

[dusky ingot]

Blood moon probably

[spare summit]

Killing bosses i think

Blood moon is fine

[tall musk]

Any bosses?

[daring willow]

has anyone done infurnum getlitboi nohit? lmao

[spare summit]

Depends where you are in progression and what you can kill fast

[spare summit]

Infernum doesn’t work with legendary mode

Even with the patch

[tall musk]

Im stuck at skeletron 😭

[daring willow]

im pretty sure i watched someone on yt do it without nohit stuff

jusst inf getlit

[spare summit]

Idk you can try farming eater of worlds or something, it drops 2 bags and the demonite should be worth a lot
If you want to afk farm it’d be pretty simple to do blood moons too

[daring willow]

what class

[tall musk]

Thanks 👏

[tall musk]

Melee

[daring willow]

oh idk

thats what i just started rn

[daring willow]

go get oathsword ig

[tall musk]

But I did it potless so tryna farm potions is the best move I think

[tall musk]

Is it better than broken biome blade?

[daring willow]

for skele probably idk

it shoots stuff

[dusky ingot]

Meanwhile mage which has a total of 0 usable weapons against skeletron:

[grizzled garden]

Do yall know if calamity fables is fully out yet or is it still in beta

[dusky ingot]

Depends on what you count as beta

[grizzled garden]

Like every single boss done

[dusky ingot]

Cause calamity itself can also be considered to be in beta

[dusky ingot]

Has like 2 or 3 iirc

So not at all

[grizzled garden]

Yea it’ll be a bit lol

I might wait till they at least make it to like post moon lord stuff

[hearty solstice]

Is infernum, wrath of gods and fargos masochist /eternity compatible for one world

[dusky ingot]

10 years maybe

Maybe more

[dusky ingot]

Not at all

Infernum and eternity do not combine

[wispy topaz]

what does this forcefield thing around my character mean

[dusky ingot]

Read the buffs man

[hearty solstice]

what about wrath of gods and fargos eternity / masochist death does thst work

[wispy topaz]

mid fight im good

[dusky ingot]

I know it sucks, but you gotta read that somehow

[grizzled garden]

Wrath of Gods is basically just another story added on essentially and some super bosses at the end so probably? I wouldn’t take my word 100% though

It’ll just be really really long fights

[dusky ingot]

That's the advice I got, I honestly do not remember what they do, it has a couple effects

[gloomy wedge]

the astral infection somehow always manages to snipe the exact point where my hardmore V sould be

[gloomy wedge]

yes

if you do, then you'll need wotg stuff for soul of eternity

[hearty solstice]

ok thanks just wondering bc never played fargos

[gloomy wedge]

if youve never played fargos, dont do dlc

do a regular run of eternity mode first and then play dlc

[dusky ingot]

But essentially one makes the attacks undodgably fast, other makes them homing, and there are some others that don't really matter I think?

[hearty solstice]

so just fsrgos no calamity?

[gloomy wedge]

yeah

[hearty solstice]

why

[gloomy wedge]

because it's better to experience the vanilla bosses without all the insane shit calamity adds

plus it'll give you experience with the enchants and forces and all that

[hearty solstice]

Ok

[rare jacinth]

got the summoner sword yayy

[spare summit]

Goldplume spear

Oh wait this is ages old nvm

[urban patrol]

I forgot to fight the astrageldon boss in hard mode lol.

[elder nebula]

oof

[spare summit]

You can install dragonlens and uncheck “moonlord downed”

[smoky dock]

true melee? <3?

[fiery mango]

I like how pretty much everyone who isn’t a Catalyst dev unanimously agrees that locking Astrageldon to pre Moon Lord is a bad design choice

[smoky dock]

👍

[fiery mango]

Too bad catalyst died rlly

[dusky ingot]

I mean, is it?

[fiery mango]

Pour one out

[urban patrol]

I’ll just create a new master world and fight it there for the drops

[fiery mango]

Yes

[dusky ingot]

It wouldn't be a superboss if you could just shred it after moonlord and get gear on par with providence drops

[gloomy wedge]

death

[fiery mango]

For a few reasons

Well Terraria
Is a sandbox game

You should let the player do as they damn well please

[spare summit]

Wait it’s a design choice and not some kind of weird workaround to a problem?
That’s strange

[fiery mango]

And Astra’s weapons being post Providence tier is another issue entirely

[dusky ingot]

Terraria doesn't let me fight moonlord pre-hardmode 😢

[fiery mango]

Don’t get me wrong I love the boss

But there’s a reason I never use her drops

[spare summit]

You can beat scal pre hardmode technically

[fiery mango]

They’re an affront to balancing

[dusky ingot]

That is true

[fiery mango]

The way I like to play Terraria is

Playing Terraria

[dusky ingot]

Though there has to be an incentive to fight a superboss, that's probably why they made the drops OP

[fiery mango]

There’s better ways to go about it.

[spare summit]

The incentive to fight the boss is to enjoy fighting the boss

[dusky ingot]

Cause Superbosses are just supposed to be harder than other bosses at that point in progression

[fiery mango]

Kinda yeah

[fading dove]

geldon is funny because its free

[rough loom]

gimme an calamity addon modlist with WOTG 🔥 (plssss)

[fiery mango]

Though discussing this at all is kinda pointless

[dusky ingot]

Yeah, I do agree, but there have to be some cool drops aswell, though they don't gotta be this strong

[fiery mango]

It’s not gonna change

[fading dove]

souls dlc

[rough loom]

dark souls?

[spare summit]

Infernum
Maybe hunt of the old god
That’s about it

[fading dove]

hotog 🤢

goozmid

[dusky ingot]

hot dog 💀

[spare summit]

I have it installed but haven’t gotten to the boss yet

I honestly have no idea if its goood

[rough loom]

these all? i just installed ALL of the hard mods i could find

[fiery mango]

Don’t worry, Goozma update eventually™️!!

[fading dove]

true

to both

[dusky ingot]

You want all the hard mods? Get Satanist aswell just for fun

[spare summit]

Fargos is so ass

[fading dove]

just know that souls dlc and inf are incompatible

[spare summit]

Try infernum

[fading dove]

we're all allowed to be objectively wrong sometimes

[rough loom]

satanist is overrated

[fiery mango]

Goozma was alright until Blockaroz forced them to push out an unfinished update and dipped

[dusky ingot]

It is a hard mod doe

[rough loom]

infernum is overrated aswell

[fading dove]

did you beat trojan squirrel

[rough loom]

i beat duke fishron in satanist btw

[urban patrol]

Gonna play it In the future lol

[fiery mango]

satanist 🤢

[fading dove]

on uhc?

[rough loom]

12.7k deaths

[dusky ingot]

The point of infernum is to be fun, and challenging, not jump impossibly difficult

[fiery mango]

Actual slop mode

[fading dove]

cuz uhhhhhhh

[dusky ingot]

On godmode?

[fading dove]

it'd be in the playlist

[rough loom]

yeah

[spare summit]

Bosses that look like they were made by an 8 year old
“QoL” that’s just cheating
Stupid broken accessories that’s just old accessories combined into one
Bosses balanced around said accessories
Unnecessary and ugly boss resprites
What am I missing?

[fiery mango]

Satanist mode is straight gunk

[rough loom]

also m,oon lord

[fading dove]

nobody's gotten past deviantt before lil bro

[fading dove]

have you not seen forces

[fiery mango]

he’s kinda true y’know….

[dusky ingot]

It's just ragebait anyways

[rough loom]

WHO is deviantt 🤣 😭
i eat deviantt for breakfast kiddo!!

[fading dove]

how much hp does she have on uhc

[rough loom]

HOW IS SAYING ''YEAH'' RAGEBAIT

[fiery mango]

I’m planning on replaying Eternity mode soon with the DLC just to confirm to myself how ass it is

[rough loom]

60 o me bloh'

[fading dove]

❌

155k

where is deviantt in progression?

[spare summit]

No I quit eternity at skeletron because I felt like I was playing tremor mod

[hasty estuary]

how d i find herrings? Infernum

[rough loom]

<@&1378159737635602562> get ts nerd outta here

[dusky ingot]

Tremor mod mentioned

[fading dove]

abyssal trenches

[dusky ingot]

Man of culture detected

[hasty estuary]

Ik but like is it mad rare or smthn

[dusky ingot]

Pins

Ah

You know how to get it, just can't find them

Aight

[fading dove]

tremor fans

[spare summit]

Yeah actually
Catch it with bug net

[fading dove]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-arbuckle-nermal-trash-can-the-garfield-show-gif-9365086984229579073

[hasty estuary]

yes ;-;

[fiery mango]

Herrings are legit not worth your time in Infernum

The mod makes a lot of the Abyss content actual cancer

Herrings are the worst of it

[fading dove]

??????????

[hasty estuary]

imma go throw myself and my tiny skeletons at the WOF until it dies then

[fiery mango]

Infernum Abyss just serves to waste your time tbh

[spare summit]

Herrings are the only bad part

[fiery mango]

It is so much worse

[spare summit]

The rest is nice

[fiery mango]

Not really

[spare summit]

Lionfish are like a hundred times more common for some reason

[fading dove]

back to the grind 🤑

[fiery mango]

The miniboss summoning is the very definition of wasting your time

Squid is free but the Shark and Wyrm is so awful

[fading dove]

they show up plenty quick

only takes like 10 seconds

[spare summit]

I’ve never had problems with them

[fiery mango]

Weong

[rough loom]

what mods

[spare summit]

The only bad part is getting the one you want but that’s also a thing in base cal

[dusky ingot]

Agreed

[fiery mango]

I mean I’m never replaying Infernum again so I guess it doesn’t matter

[fiery mango]

In Infernum they spawn independent of spawn rate boosts and it can only be one at a time

[rough loom]

i dont see satanist, btw is there a limit of how many mods can be on at the same time?

[fading dove]

im not playing satanist because im doing an inf dog nohit

[spare summit]

That’s fine

[hasty estuary]

how unenjoyable will infernum WOF with eye of night be?

[rough loom]

alr, but is there a limit for how many mods??/ my pc always crashes when i got like 20 mods

[fiery mango]

The fact that a human being designed satanist mode baffles me

[rough loom]

satanist mode cant be that hard right

[fiery mango]

I’m not even talking about difficulty

[spare summit]

It just discourages you from playing it

[fading dove]

the only limit is game stability

[spare summit]

If someone actually wanted to beat satanist they could

[rough loom]

so its how good the pc is?

[fiery mango]

I’m usually not talking about difficulty when I don’t like something

[fading dove]

no, its tmod itself

[fiery mango]

Normally it’s for game design reasojs

[rough loom]

but i am

[fiery mango]

And satanist is somehow a bigger affront to game design than emode

No thats not fair

[rough loom]

YOO READ NME LIKE A BOOK

[fiery mango]

Masochist

[spare summit]

Respawning with the stoned debuff making the game unplayable I feel like is all that needs to be said about satanist

[rough loom]

''how can i remove ts''

[fading dove]

nobody has reached wof since it released

[fading dove]

just relog

[spare summit]

Yes

Fun

[rough loom]

cz they be uhhh sikll issue

[fading dove]

it gives you time to think about your actions

[spare summit]

Yeah, like contemplating why you decided to play that horseshit

[dusky ingot]

I hate that notification, it sucks, no one ever got any info from that

[fiery mango]

Terraria modders really can’t seem to make difficulty mods without violating the laws of game design in an extremely graphic manner

even Infernum does it at times

[spare summit]

Satanist is meant to be a shitpost anyway so I don’t really care

[fiery mango]

Here’s the thing about making awful game design as a “joke”

As an observer it might be funny

But if you play it

[fading dove]

its very much a serious difficulty

[fiery mango]

The joke is not gonna land

[rough loom]

why is my UI gone???

[fading dove]

it's a punishment for the hubris of man

[spare summit]

That’s effort that could have gone towards making Fargos actually good too

[fading dove]

those that continue striving for greater and greater heights will be left empty

this seeks to stop them before they reach that point

[dusky ingot]

Not at all, it probably is how it was intended to be

[fiery mango]

Never Happening

[dusky ingot]

The dev just likes making shitpost mods, and that's fine

[spare summit]

Considering nobody is playing this aside to check it out for a few hours I don’t think we have to worry about it

[fading dove]

there's also a reward for beating it legit

[rough loom]

i have spent 200 hours on the same geometry dash level

[fading dove]

cluebed

[rough loom]

so ts is cook for me

like guys, im gonna beat it rn

[fading dove]

people are genuinely playing it

[rough loom]

1 month and w ewil see whos the best hmm??? h,,m???

[dusky ingot]

Do it in one sitting

[fiery mango]

Satanist was made for youtube slop content

[dusky ingot]

Gl

[fiery mango]

That’s the short of it

It exists so people can make videos about BEATING TERRARIA’S NEW HARDEST DIFFICULTY MOD!,!

[spare summit]

Minecraft has shitty horror mods and terraria has shitty difficulty mods
I can believe it honestly

[fiery mango]

Absolutely shameless

[dusky ingot]

There are like 4 popular shitty difficulty mods for terraria, not that many

[spare summit]

Satanist, what’s the others?

I know there’s that one empress of light mod

[fiery mango]

Fargo’s Souls and Infernum probably

[open shadow]

whats the best weapon in calamityy

for meele

[fiery mango]

I’d say Infernum isn’t shitty

[rough loom]

those are easy

[fiery mango]

But it gets horrific at times

[open shadow]

.

[waxen tide]

for?

[fiery mango]

It’s a passable mod with really low lows

[spare summit]

Fargos souls and infernum don’t qualify
As much as I don’t like Fargos eternity it’s not as bad as satanist
Infernum is actually good for the most part and I’d consider it more reworks than just adding difficulty

[rough loom]

for melee

[spare summit]

What don’t you like about infernum

I think it’s pretty good until old duke

[fiery mango]

Polterghast

[waxen tide]

but like overall or what

[dusky ingot]

Yeah, these were the ones I remembered, but gave 4 for some leeway, in case there's something I don't know

[open shadow]

beating up the dungeon boss

not skeletron

the other one

thats blue and annoying

[rough loom]

best weapon

[open shadow]

we lost multiple times due tto lag

[waxen tide]

terratomere

[spare summit]

I kinda like polter too

[dusky ingot]

I kinda dislike how it's usually just platform building simulator

[fiery mango]

you’re too far gone…

[spare summit]

That’s all of modded terraria ever

[fiery mango]

Truth Nuke

[dusky ingot]

And how it's kinda not immersive when some bosses have attacks where when you walk away from them, they just kill you, like they couldn't do that when you're close to them

[spare summit]

Even vanilla

[fiery mango]

Though it peters out in PML usually

[spare summit]

Providence and guardians are actually my favorite bosses in the mod

Scal is nice too

[dusky ingot]

Vanilla you are fine with like 3 platforms 200 blocks long

[spare summit]

True

I don’t even use wings or dashes in vanilla

[rough loom]

cuz u dont play vanilla right

[spare summit]

Gfb was free with full tank and just mounts and bob for mobility

[fading dove]

👀

[dusky ingot]

Yeah there was the dude that beat expert mode on vanilla on a dance pad

[fading dove]

he can't be bothered to read more than 2 words btw

[spare summit]

Hexxed branch + Bob is better than any combo of wings boots or dashes in vanilla fight me

[fading dove]

starboard

[spare summit]

Ok true

But that’s postgame

[dusky ingot]

Who is Bob?

[spare summit]

Bundle of balloons

[fading dove]

bundle of balloons

also

horseshoe bundle

checkmate

[spare summit]

Damn you got me

[dusky ingot]

Witch's broom is the better choice cause you don't have to walk like a peasant

[spare summit]

Vanilla boss fights are just running simulator

Faster run = more better

[fiery mango]

I remember Road Of Asphalt is how i beat Moon Lord the first time

just don’t engage with the boss and spam Nurse lmfao

Ultra scum strats

Though in regards to Moon Lord he doesn’t deserve the engagement

[dusky ingot]

I just beat it on 1.3

[spare summit]

I miss being a noob in terraria

[dusky ingot]

So just went inside a shoebox

[spare summit]

I did the same thing

[fiery mango]

Duke Fishron deserved the real battle but I also Asphalt’d him to death

Cause back then he didn’t enrage outside the ocean

[spare summit]

Now you can golf cart him to death

[fiery mango]

Duke’s my favourite vanilla boss though I’d never do that to him nowadays

It’s a shame how many modded bosses copy Duke cause none of them mange to actually be as good as him

[spare summit]

Yharon

[fiery mango]

Yharon is Good.

[spare summit]

But to be fair he hasn’t changed since he was added aside from the running away thing

[fiery mango]

But not unique enough.

And his bullet spams are Strange

I still prefer Duke

[spare summit]

Oh wait I somehow forgot old duke

[dusky ingot]

Duke is just a poor copy of Yharon

[spare summit]

The most blatant copy paste

[fiery mango]

https://tenor.com/view/unique-ai-terraria-calamity-mod-gif-25170572

[dusky ingot]

"I'm not like the other bosses!"

By the way, why tf is primordial wyrm a worm boss if it's not even a worm boss?

[compact hedge]

anyone know that mod that gives you the thing that auto hammers platforms

[spare summit]

Platform hammerizer from prisma’s pristine potions

[compact hedge]

thank you🙏

[fading dove]

learning psycho knife for p2 opener is worth

[bitter lynx]

herring or hornet staff for slime god on infernum

[spare summit]

Staff of neceosteocytes is best but between the two herring

[bitter lynx]

but i tried and the hornet staff has way higher dps but is herring better overall

also i have staff of neceosteocytes so ill prolly use it

[fading dove]

necrosteocytes is easily the strongest but thats only the case if you put the work in to make it work

[spare summit]

For wof yeah
Slime god usually stays on the ground enough for necrosteocytes to do their thing

[fading dove]

for any boss

[spare summit]

Both herring and hornet are good though

[bitter lynx]

i usually dont like minions that stay on the ground bc it feels like they cant hit anything but for slime god could be good

[spare summit]

That’s usually the case yeah

[bitter lynx]

is my setup good i will send a screenshot

[spare summit]

I would upgrade to lightning boots or better and swap wings for bundle of horseshoe balloons

[bitter lynx]

wings are easier to use but might try

[dusky ingot]

Skyline wings are piss slow

So baloons much better

[spare summit]

They’re bugged

[dusky ingot]

If you really want wings better to use Fledgling

[spare summit]

Prehardmode wings are doodoo in general though

[dusky ingot]

Okay, but they weren't fixed for like half a year, so idc if it's a bug, feels like an annoying feature now

Or longer

[gloomy wedge]

found a use for holy water

[bitter lynx]

should i reforge everything menacing or warding or like half menacing half warding

[gloomy wedge]

go full warding

[dusky ingot]

Warding

100x better

[bitter lynx]

will do

also changed the wings for bundle

[spare summit]

When did 2.0.4 come out?

2.0.5 was just fabsol deletion

[fading dove]

shoutout to defence during dog

[fervent nimbus]

is there a mod to make this easier to track?

the crosshair

[fading dove]

i wouldnt call superradiant fabsol deletion

[spare summit]

Oh yeah it did that too

Idk how I forgot

[gloomy wedge]

#changelogs message all this was The Defabsolification
#changelogs message all this was regular update stuff

[spare summit]

Oh there were a lot of bug fixes, guess I was wrong

I thought it was just an emergency patch, idk where I got that from

[gloomy wedge]

altho i will say ending the first changelog with

23 - Readded Coldheart Icicle.

biggest power move of the century

[quasi dock]

hey, sorry to disrupt discussion, but like, I'm feeling a little stuck on pg in Infernum - in phase 4, the prardians have an attack which involves the summoning of a circle, which is then thrown towards the player, after which several lasers begin spinning around the circle, some clockwise and some anticlockwise, before, at some point, they gain a hitbox that deals ~350 damage through my armour

is there like, any telegraph for this attack? I'm sure I'm missing something and this isn't just straight rng, but like, I genuinely cannot see a telegraph, and I really need help here :P

[gloomy wedge]

the best explanation i can give for dodging that attacks is to just find a spot where it seems like the beams will take a while to get there

if you haven't already, reforge all your accessories to warding and try a bulkier build

[fiery mango]

I just saw footage of Fargo’s Queen Slime and maybe Infernum spoiled me a little too much but YIKES…

[dusky ingot]

Ngl this looks like something ChatGPT made up

[gloomy wedge]

i mean they dont have any fancy visual effects but frankly i like fargos queen slime way more than infernum queen slime

[dusky ingot]

Maybe cause I don't know what boss pg is

[gloomy wedge]

profaned guardians

[quasi dock]

profaned guardians

[neon dew]

okay so infernum dog is hard and I am going to practice in god mode

[spare summit]

People when they realize ChatGPT is trained on human writing

[dusky ingot]

ohh, makes sense

[quasi dock]

yeah, sorry, I just kinda talk like that :P

[gloomy wedge]

if you havent already, try watching some nohits and see how others did it

you def wont be nohitting but getting a general idea of how to dodge the attacks is valuable

[quasi dock]

yeah, ig - that's what I've been trying to do, but it's like, not working consistently, and 350 damage is a lot

[spare summit]

You kinda have to keep track in your mind of where the lasers will be when the hitbox comes out

The one thing to not do is move a lot

[quasi dock]

yeah, it seems slightly arcane though? like, they just kinda... know where the lasers are going to gain a hitbox - so it's definitely a learnable thing, but it's not that easy to intuit how they know that based on the nohits

[gloomy wedge]

what class are you on anyways

[quasi dock]

mage

[gloomy wedge]

oh, no experience with it

[spare summit]

Is treasure magnet to pick up the nebula fragments easier actual tech or am I making this up

[quasi dock]

I mean, picking up the fragments isn't an issue really

[gloomy wedge]

i do have this loadout for guardians tho

[quasi dock]

it's mostly just me being bad at dodging

[gloomy wedge]

can just swap vortex booster and recon scope for celestial starboard and calamitas sigil

[spare summit]

Also yes starboard if you aren’t

Send loadout?

[quasi dock]

lemme load up the game again

[gloomy wedge]

i'd recommend swapping tracers for starboard, destroyer emblem for sealocket, and concoction for absorber

[spare summit]

Is there anything you have to ram in this fight?

[gloomy wedge]

for the orb, the lasers come out about 2 and a half seconds after their telegraph shows up

[spare summit]

I think statis belt might be better

[gloomy wedge]

it can be pretty helpful for phase 3

[dusky ingot]

I mean, can help for the warrior dashing I guess?

[gloomy wedge]

but i think it comes down to personal preference

[quasi dock]

yeah, I dash a lot as part of dodging, separate from ramming

it's entirely part of the playstyle I use

[quasi dock]

I'll try this out

[neon dew]

where did he go

[gloomy wedge]

btw sealocket is genuinely absurd

i dont think i took it off until i beat yharon

[spare summit]

It’s good until sponge

Which is crazy considering it’s from pre moonlord

[quasi dock]

what's the actual name of this item? I'm not familiar with this name and can't find it

[gloomy wedge]

cherished sealocket

[spare summit]

It’s infernum exclusive

[gloomy wedge]

from bereft vassal

[neon dew]

should I use it on DoG?

[gloomy wedge]

if you havent already beaten him, go do that real quick, hes scaled to post cultist so should be pretty easy

[neon dew]

Cus like

[quasi dock]

oh, right, that makes sense, was on vanilla wiki

[neon dew]

he oneshots me anyways

[quasi dock]

or, vanilla calamity

not vanilla terraria

[gloomy wedge]

its one of the best accessories for the fight

[spare summit]

It’s maybe the best accessory for dog in the game besides aegis

[gloomy wedge]

60% dr means you get to live a head hit

[neon dew]

really?

oh true

what do I swap

[dusky ingot]

It's good unless you use Chalice

[gloomy wedge]

ambergris probably

[neon dew]

really?

[spare summit]

Community

[gloomy wedge]

in general theres a lot that can be swapped here

[neon dew]

for infernum dog?

[quasi dock]

oh, so it is

[spare summit]

I liked ambergris

[quasi dock]

this is a very insane item :P

[neon dew]

honestly community is mostly there for flight time

[waxen tide]

you have insignia already

[neon dew]

and ambergris is for dash

I mean true

[gloomy wedge]

this is what i used for dog

full menacing

[spare summit]

What’s blazing core do

[gloomy wedge]

its a parry

i swapped it and amalgamated brain a lot throughout the fight

[dusky ingot]

I thought blazing core spawned a sun when you get hit

[quasi dock]

yeah, I just never found the underground desert shrine this playthrough so thought I wouldn't bother, but yeah, this is 100% worth doing

(I did it on a previous summoner playthrough that I gave up on at deus, and didn't really feel a need to redo the fight, but yeah, I can do it)

[spare summit]

If you have boss checklist enabled take it off

Breaks stuff

[neon dew]

I have 2 lucky accessories and the rest are menacing, should I keep them as such or what?

[quasi dock]

how so?

[neon dew]

(mage)

[gloomy wedge]

yeah boss checklist HATES subworlds

[gloomy wedge]

it makes the game think you havent beaten any modded bosses

only the vanilla ones

experienced this myself

[neon dew]

oh how so?

[spare summit]

Entering a subworld makes all modded boss count as not defeated
So you can’t mine astral ore bc deus etc

[neon dew]

OH

ew

weird

[quasi dock]

that's awesome

I'll disable it then

[gloomy wedge]

also nerfs your community

[spare summit]

Idk how tf that happens

[gloomy wedge]

jank machine?

[neon dew]

did notice that

I just assumed it was subworlds themselves being janky

[gloomy wedge]

boss checklist is a very funny mod because 95% of the time itll be perfectly normal

[spare summit]

The bug is on boss checklist’s side and they haven’t fixed it for years

[dusky ingot]

Terraria mods simply have to be coded in a jumbled mess

[gloomy wedge]

and 5% of the time itll do the most fucked up things imaginable

[neon dew]

wild

[quasi dock]

Infernum's had a subworld for a while and is an immensely popular mod that's often assumed to be compatible with it so it's slightly odd that they never addressed this

[spare summit]

For some reason fighting avatar of emptiness didn’t do this

[gloomy wedge]

i mean im pretty sure boss checklist can brick your world under certain circumstances

[dusky ingot]

Also Primordial Wyrm isn't on the checklist (I think)

[spare summit]

I have no fucking clue how this works

[quasi dock]

this is true

[gloomy wedge]

just use boss checklist lite

that little log thing is whats causing all the problems from what i can tell

[dusky ingot]

Journal doe ;c

I never use the normal checklist

[spare summit]

Lite has the same issue

[gloomy wedge]

it does?

[spare summit]

From what I’ve been told

I use the full version

[gloomy wedge]

ngl i only upgraded to lite during this playthrough but i would assume lite fixes the subworld jank

[quasi dock]

I mean, I don't really need boss checklist, like, there is a wiki page with a list of bosses in a reasonable order, so I probably just won't bother with lite either

[waxen tide]

lite doesnt have any jank

if anything its infernum issue

or subworlds

[spare summit]

How else will I be able to tell I died 400 times to dog without the journal

[quasi dock]

I mean, I think calling it either is reasonable

[gloomy wedge]

anyways i love mildly cursed armor

[waxen tide]

nycros nohit efficiency

[spare summit]

Isn’t that just a chat message that goes away when you exit the world?

[quasi dock]

like, it's an issue with all of boss checklist, subworlds, and infernum to different and overlapping degrees

but yeah, it's odd that boss checklist hasn't fixed this

[waxen tide]

its not like it just removes itself forever
just refight and you see your attempts

[spare summit]

Oh true

[dusky ingot]

I'd like a mod that removes itself when I exit a world

Would incentivize beating the game in one sitting

[quasi dock]

death stats are kind of funny

it's all like, 2-5 (with hive mind and dragonfolly as outliers at 1) and then deus on 43, moon lord on 12, and pg currently on ~30 I think?

[dusky ingot]

Would be funi if they added that to calamity on April Fools

[spare summit]

Post moon lord difficulty spike is huge

Folly is stupid easy and the rest of post ml are guardian difficulty and upwards

[waxen tide]

43 on deus???

[spare summit]

Aside from sentinels and old duke

[quasi dock]

infernum deus is kinda absurd

[spare summit]

Star of destruction gaming

[dusky ingot]

For me highest thus far are:
3 - Primordial wyrm - 39
2 - Guardians - 45
1 - DoG - 483
0 - Ceaseless Void - 2000+ due to some infernum+wotg+boss checklist debauchery

[quasi dock]

mage :(

[spare summit]

Uhh

Atlantis gaming

[dusky ingot]

Freak, why discord gotta format my messages when I want to count from higher to lower?

[quasi dock]

(I mean, to be clear, I did also kind of bring poor performance against the post golem bosses on myself by deciding "wouldn't it be funny to use dark artist armour and play with sentries for the part where I gave up on as summoner?")

[waxen tide]

dark artist is goated even without sentries

raw stats🤤

[dusky ingot]

Did a braindead discord dev decide I can't use numbers the way I want?

[gloomy wedge]

i think dog took the most attempts, but scal gave me the most trouble

then it was guardians

[quasi dock]

(not that dark artist armour has low damage, it is higher stats than spectre mask, I just think it's generally worse than calamity armour sets available around that point iirc?)

[gloomy wedge]

and then. genuinely i think it was king slime

[spare summit]

I feel like Scal was kinda easy compared to exos

At least with solo ares

[gloomy wedge]

scal beat my ass but GOD was it fun

[spare summit]

Fucking solo ares

[gloomy wedge]

exos beat my ass and made me hate myself

i went with solo ares just so i could kill him first

genuinely ares ruins the fight

[dusky ingot]

King Slime is difficult on infernum, but Desert Scourge is very easy, so no point doing KS first

[quasi dock]

yeah, no like, it's definitely my favourite armour for ml in vanilla, I was just under the impression that post golem mage armour from calamity was kinda insane

[spare summit]

The trick to king slime is just jump or drop down before the crown shoots its blast

That’s it

[dusky ingot]

I always had trouble with the ninja attacks

[quasi dock]

(sorry for being an ooa fan 😔)

[spare summit]

The ninja won’t even attack you unless you’re too far away

[dusky ingot]

That bullethell just feels out of place

[gloomy wedge]

Post golem armor is insane, but OOA is more broken

Literally every item from the event is good except for like

Sleepy Octopod

[quasi dock]

true

[dusky ingot]

Didn't know that tbh

[neon dew]

I accidentally'd with quit outs how do I undo

[gloomy wedge]

You don’t

[neon dew]

was practicing with god mode

fuck

[quasi dock]

in which case I'm just REALLY bad against astrum deus

[gloomy wedge]

I get it, everyone has those fights

For me it was old duke

[spare summit]

Everyone struggles on different bosses

[waxen tide]

it always attacks regardless of what
it just shoot less projectiles on closer distance

[spare summit]

I struggled with dog even on death mode so imagine when I got to infernum dog

[quasi dock]

I'm also really bad against AS and Destroyer, so I might just be bad at worm fights - this does not bode well for devourer if I get there

[neon dew]

deus was hard as fuck fsr for me in infernum

[gloomy wedge]

Dog is way less of a worm boss

If anything he’s more of a fishron to me

[quasi dock]

also storm weaver

[neon dew]

tbf it's not like boss being considered dead actually matters now

[spare summit]

At least fighting dog 400 times made thanos feel like child’s play

[dusky ingot]

I was a mage so didn't have issues

[neon dew]

I'm also a mage

[quasi dock]

I'm also a mage

[neon dew]

idk I just had a hard time with him

[dusky ingot]

Art Attack exists for Deus

It literally kills him in like 50 seconds or less

[humble marlin]

nya

[gloomy wedge]

I struggled on deus, not because of the fight itself, but because I was determined to use vortexpopper + hyperius bullets

[quasi dock]

damn, I should have looked harder for weapons (I tried a few and ended up using arcanum, was the only thing that consistently hit ~6000dps)

[spare summit]

Cool thing check it out https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10bgBHu7apfftITBOQVJrtYCiakZVGC4reJcvfJqMBEM/edit#gid=775627746

[dusky ingot]

Yeah art attack sucks for basically everything but goog for worms

[spare summit]

A lot of good weapons aren’t even on the class setups wiki page

[quasi dock]

nano purge in B tier is weird - that weapon was like, genuinely one of the worst performing things I tested against both ml and deus (I might just suck at using it? idrk) :P

[gloomy wedge]

This list is for expert rev, not infernum

[dusky ingot]

Art Attack in F-tier? How dare they?

[gloomy wedge]

Certain weapons will be a lot better or worse in infernum rather than in basecal

[dusky ingot]

My lovely weapon with 1 niche

[quasi dock]

ah, that makes sense

[spare summit]

It’s generally useful but some weapons are wildly different

[gloomy wedge]

Corinth Prime and Fetid Emisis are easy example

[spare summit]

Glorious end + mollusk armor is still the funniest fucking thing ever

[gloomy wedge]

Corinth Prime is insane in basecal but pretty mid in infernum

Fetid Emisis is mid in basecal but really good in infernum

[spare summit]

Absolutely not
It killed dog for me faster than holy collider and lion heart managed to do

You just have to aim away from it so you can get the big explosions

[gloomy wedge]

I just don’t like it compared to other ranged options

[quasi dock]

(I might just have a dispreference for that kind of "constant mana potion spam" weapon, which is probably making my response much worse)

[spare summit]

Rage + adrenaline + madness took off 70% of dog’s health in 4 seconds and I skipped the entire laser phase

Shit is still busted

[neon dew]

I think I just need more vertical space for dog tbh

[spare summit]

Is it weird that I do dog diagonally

People always either do vertical or horizontal

[fading dove]

psycho knife strats 🤤

[quasi dock]

cryophobia in E is interesting tbh

like, for its performance on bosses, yeah, it's bad, but it's like, one of the best utility weapons for just how quickly it can clear out an area - it's kinda goated for events or digging a plantera arena because the infernum flower thingy spawned on top of the azure pass

[prisma jewel]

Man I got told to try eternity mode before masochist but eternity mode is so easy after playing infernum like I'm still only in pre-moon lord but I don't think I've took more than 3 attempts for a boss yet 😭

[spare summit]

Play satanist

[prisma jewel]

haha

yeah

[neon dew]

not bad

[fading dove]

inf dog minimum kt is 1:30 right

[waxen tide]

1:40

[neon dew]

oh huh interesting

[fading dove]

mmmmm

i wonder if im actually gonna get close to that

elysian aegis damage only

[prisma jewel]

Bosses have minimum kill times?

[fading dove]

for nohitting yeah

that way you can't just make an uberglass loadout and slaughter the boss before they do anything

[neon dew]

ye

otherwise I'd have a significantly shorter deus nohit from like 2 years ago when the lazhar melted him a new asshole

(tbf it still elt me use pure mobility but regardless)

slight problem

I run out of flight time right before the last few dashes in phase 2

maybe I should try speed candle

[cold jacinth]

is there anything to instantly spawn skeletron with?

that potentionally turns night time too

[rare jacinth]

are you in infernum

[cold jacinth]

yee

[rare jacinth]

what tbe thing called? dungeon's curse?

it summons skeletron and makes it night if it's day

[half nest]

why is solyn a fanny now

[cold jacinth]

ty

[cedar kayak]

Lies, I made it to make a joke about how seeking hard challenges in modded terraria will lead you to nowhere

[humble marlin]

based as fuck

[half nest]

is wrath of the gods supposed to crash after you kill the deity

[spare summit]

Yeah

[neon dew]

incredible

[spare summit]

Don’t worry you still get your stuff

[half nest]

like getting stuck on a static screen

[spare summit]

Yeah just log back in

[half nest]

oar

wish wrath of the god had more bosses really

[neon dew]

what exactly is wrath of the gods

besides a miracle in dark souls

[spare summit]

It adds a quest line with a special NPC and 3 postgame bosses

And some cosmic horror

[half nest]

yea i know

wait 3?

[neon dew]

I see

neat

[cedar kayak]

[spare summit]

||Mars, avatar of emptiness, nameless deity||

[gloomy wedge]

The Fog Is Coming.

and also the funny haha roh rant guy

[neon dew]

dam

[grim falcon]

youre playing community remix.

[neon dew]

anyways so far infernum has been rly fun

even the bosses that are shitting on my ass

generally just been fun

except king slime fuck infernum king slime

[neon dew]

overtuned piece of shit

[half nest]

woohoo

[neon dew]

my one true complaint and the one boss I truly think is overtuned is king slime

[half nest]

CAT TAIL PLACED!!

[neon dew]

just due to how early it is

needs more preparation than I think should be necessary that early

[spare summit]

The point of king slime being as hard as it is is to show you what kind of experience you’re in for I think

[prisma jewel]

I needa speed through this crappy eternity run so I can actually do wotg this time

[neon dew]

I mean I guess

it's not even him being that hard

[prisma jewel]

Dunno what class to run next tho, did melee on my first infernum run

[half nest]

imagine if the "final test" was just a max test

[neon dew]

because like

he's easy if you prepare enough

[half nest]

they should make it that in get fixed boi at the end

[spare summit]

Do people not get max life and the best accessories before doing bosses?

I thought everyone did that

[neon dew]

I mean in base cal I don't usually need thaaaat much

fledgling wings, spectre+ boots
some other stuff

multiple long platforms

just a biiit too much for a first boss

it's not the difficulty is the preperation expected

if the crystal shot like 15% slower or the boss was like 10% smaller and/or slower it'd literally be a non issue

[prisma jewel]

What do you guys think the most fun class in infernum is?

[neon dew]

it's just SO much

[spare summit]

You can do king slime with just like
Max life
Sandstorm in a bottle
Boots
Hook
A good weapon
Whatever random accessories you find

[spare summit]

Not sticking to a class
But rogue if you want a real answer

[neon dew]

I mean yeah but idk I think it jsut needs a BIT too much for just HOW early it is

[half nest]

SOLYN FUCKING DIES???

[spare summit]

Spoilers

But yeah ||find all the books for a secret ending||

The books are so ass

[half nest]

dumbledore dies

[prisma jewel]

Alr thanks, I figured just doing whatever you felt like at that stage would be fun ofc but grinding all that gear is not my style honest

[spare summit]

Just cheat them in honestly

The grind isn’t that bad

Especially with shimmer

[neon dew]

good

[spare summit]

I like doing something between just killing bosses but that’s just me

[half nest]

also for some reason her spirit is invisible for me

[nimble wing]

i still think KS does a terrible job at that because it does not fit infernum design trends at all

[half nest]

what now

[nimble wing]

infernum design trends being at least major and obvious changes from base, unless the boss is like old duke or something

[spare summit]

That’s a good point, is mostly just death mode king slime but with the ninja

It’s not the most offensive thing ever unlike some post moon lord guys so I don’t see a huge problem with it though

[nimble wing]

KS itself literally has a single attack, the jewel isn't much different from calamity, all the ninja does is add a simple spread of projectiles sometimes, and none of these three things are really coordinated with each other

DS is a really good "welcome to infernum" boss tho

[spare summit]

I would say crab does it better but yeah ds too

No

Giant clam unironically is the perfect welcome to infernum

[nimble wing]

crab isn't super dramatically different although the changes are still obvious

and while i enjoy it now that i know how to make it work, it's kind of a mess if you don't figure out the somewhat unintuitive way to make it work

[gloomy wedge]

shit took 5 minutes for zero

[gloomy wedge]

i really like the books honestly

it gave me a ton of fun side objectives to do

[dry stirrup]

[gloomy wedge]

i think the only one im not a fan of are the exo mechs related books

[fading dove]

1/33 chance 👀

hope you like farming the same boss 👀

[spare summit]

They’re good in concept but the rng needed to get some of them is horrid

I just wish they’d up the drop chance for apple thesis, twenty tome, some others

And the 1/33 exos book yea

This time I got lucky enough to get ominous storybook as soon as I entered hardmode but in my last playthrough I never got it in 60 hours

[nimble wing]

i have no idea why we let that exos book be that

there are already two others anyway

[spare summit]

Then you have the unfinished colouring book which you’ll end up with a hundred of

I think the drop rates could use some fine tuning all around

[nimble wing]

i'm not sure if most of us have any interest left in fixing wotg1's problems

we can do it better from the ground up in wotg2, on which we also want to focus because it's not stuck with being a calamity addon

[spare summit]

I had no idea there was a wotg2 and I thought 1 was still being worked on
Can I read more somewhere?

[gloomy wedge]

wotg2 is basically wotg but disconnected from calamity iirc

[elder nebula]

yeah

[nimble wing]

1 will still be maintained as far as i know

probably tweaked a little here and there as well, like how endless deity no longer gets the gun

[nimble wing]

ok let's see if this works

[spare summit]

How does that work with permafrost, ceaseless void, draedon all being important

[nimble wing]

oops

[spare summit]

Moon lord straight to avatar seems like a weird jump

[nimble wing]

https://discord.gg/SWeTNNKwzw

it did work

[spare summit]

Yay

[nimble wing]

no insult, but is there a reason for that other than you're used to it

[nimble wing]

it doesn't. that's why we're moving every step of the questline somewhere else

genesis seed obtainment has a concept pretty fleshed out but that's currently about it

antiseed doesn't seem too hard to retool and blazing bud is already an afterthought, but we have no idea what to do with synthetic seed

[cold jacinth]

Why is there no Carnage's Ray?

[spare summit]

I guess because the wotg bosses have so many crazy visual effects and subworlds and all that
Moon lord is kinda just a regular guy by comparison and the best it can do is a big laser
At least in infernum the intensity and craziness ramped up slowly
Maybe it’s just me

What about mars

[cold jacinth]

does anyone know?

i see the night's ray

but i dont see the carnages ray

[plucky egret]

Weapon bloat

[cold jacinth]

What does that mean?

[nimble wing]

"in infernum" sure the visual progression feels natural there, but it's still going from 0 to 100 when you're playing base calamity

[plucky egret]

Too many weapons with little to zero purpose

So some of them were deleted

Including Carnage's Ray

[cold jacinth]

But night's ray stayed

[elder nebula]

yes

[cold jacinth]

Is it just better?

[plucky egret]

They're pretty much identical, iirc

[nimble wing]

it's not wotg's fault that fabsol never made proper visuals, nor is it wotg's fault that moon lord sucks

[plucky egret]

So one was left and the other was trashed

[nimble wing]

no mars

[plucky egret]

No more time stopping shenanigans, sad

[spare summit]

Yeah I never thought about that really
Dog to Exos and Scal help the progression feel a little more natural but that makes sense

[cold jacinth]

The night's ray seems VERY mid, am i wrong?

[spare summit]

No it’s mid

[cold jacinth]

what would be the best mage weapon for WOF?

i got like a black frog

[elder nebula]

that's pretty good

maybe also get the water bolt

[cold jacinth]

this is what i got right now

[spare summit]

Black anurian, water bolt, aqua scepter, even demon scythe is decent

[cold jacinth]

How do i get a water bolt?

[spare summit]

The same as in vanilla

Mine the books in the dungeon

[plucky egret]

Pulse Pistol is a great option in base Calamity too

[cold jacinth]

ah

[plucky egret]

Not sure for Infernum, but probably works nicely too

[granite bough]

she fucking FELL on me

and HIT ME

for TEN DAMAGE

I feel like she was aiming directly at me

[spare summit]

Mechdusa

[nimble wing]

speentbubble

[halcyon mortar]

what flask should I use as melee post plantera

[spare summit]

Ichor until like post golem

Swap to crumbling then

[smoky dock]

Your flask isn’t impactful enough to really think too hard about imo

[plucky egret]

Flask of Crumbling, go!

[smoky dock]

If you’re doing things so difficult in which an unoptimal flask choice becomes a major issue, then you’re probably knowledgeable enough with the game to pick accurately yourself

[plucky egret]

And Lunic Eye, because I'm a Summoner / support masochist!

[spare summit]

Flask of shattering readded when

[gloomy wedge]

mecha mayhem?

[nimble wing]

remind me not to ask this channel for ideas

[spare summit]

Unless wotg reworks the entire fight mecha mayhem is just miserable

[halcyon mortar]

is crumbling just a direct upgrade to ichor

[gloomy wedge]

listen what else are you supposed to do for synthetic besides make a new seedling

it's more fun than mechdusa

[plucky egret]

Not an actual upgrade, but technically

[spare summit]

No, ichor is defense and crumbling is % based damage reduction
Eventually the percentage becomes more important than the flat value

[nimble wing]

well you're right, it doesn't have to be the same thematically

[halcyon mortar]

oh ok, tysm

[nimble wing]

we have plans around where mars was anyway

[spare summit]

I wasn’t being serious
I hope mechdusa never becomes a thing outside of gfb ever

[humble marlin]

teue

[gloomy wedge]

i hope it becomes a thing, but its a 1% chance whenever you summon a mech boss