calamity-addon-talk

[neon dew]

definitely easier to react to like

getting to a safe area

than trying to get to a wall

[frail saffron]

easier to do, and much safer

[neon dew]

ceiling is faster

yea

[frail saffron]

no risk really

[neon dew]

how about the other attack though

[dusky ingot]

Ngl Infernum Exos seem quite tough

[smoky dock]

Being close means you’re inside the ouchie ring

[dusky ingot]

Especially Thanos

[neon dew]

as that's honestly the biggest one

I just have no clue how to dodge it very consistently

[frail saffron]

Thanatos is easier than DoG infernum so there's that

[neon dew]

I've been starting at one upper corner and going to the other side

and then back

[dusky ingot]

Completely different AI

And a lot of weird attacks

[frail saffron]

Yeah, still easier

[dusky ingot]

And I don't even know what I take damage from

[frail saffron]

What class you using for it

cause it's very cheesable

[dusky ingot]

Mage, so I should be good

[frail saffron]

kill primordial wyrm or whatever at bottom of abyss

[glad skiff]

Late but Hellborn provides overall much better killtimes than Slick Cane. The only time where Slick Cane is the relatively better of the 2 is for SG and WoF, after which most of its killtimes struggle to stay in SS Tier or even S. Hellborn just blitzes through most of HM and gets a sub 1 exrev Aureus. Glorious End is a better candidate to dethrone Hellborn than Cane due to it being viable or better throughout most of the game

[dusky ingot]

Did

[frail saffron]

use the book from it

[neon dew]

I'm gonna watch a nohit tbh

probably a good idea

[frail saffron]

it annihilates every boss after obtaining it

[neon dew]

oh wow I was dodging the intro attack completely wrong jesus christ

[dusky ingot]

It doesn't annihilate exos ;c

Only really works well for the exo twins from what I'd noticed

[frail saffron]

Worked for me, dunno whats going on then

[dusky ingot]

Though maybe I just don't know how to use it

But does like 20k dps only

[frail saffron]

Click and hold forever

[dusky ingot]

And usually even less on Thanatos

[frail saffron]

Be near boss

[dusky ingot]

Wait, which one?

Cause there are 2 weapons

[frail saffron]

reverie

the book

[glad skiff]

I'm pretty sure the only other weapon stronger for Aureus is Blast Barrel

[dusky ingot]

Tentacle or ball one?

I can't really tell how they look cause my UI scale kinda fucked

[frail saffron]

book

it's a book

I swear it's not that hard to figure out

[dusky ingot]

I almost cannot see these squares with items

[little steppe]

isnt tentacles and ball the same one

[glad skiff]

@edgy patrol I forgot to ping reply

[neon dew]

oh right the dogma lasers too those keep getting my ass

but that's ENTIRELY skill issue

[dusky ingot]

On 4k and the GUI scale I used before it is just impossible to tell these items apart

[frail saffron]

make sure you have mana pots tho

[dusky ingot]

Dogma? Isn't that an Isaac boss?

[frail saffron]

increase ui size

if its not enough get a mod that uncaps it

[neon dew]

yes and she has an attack nearly identical to the lasers it uses

[smoky dock]

👍

[neon dew]

guardians do too and it's even more obviously the exact same attack

I know how to dodge that sort of thing I'm just skill issue

I should grab myrindael

[frail saffron]

I dont remember much of prov fight other than killing it in like 2 mins

[neon dew]

jesus christ

tbf I'm using warding and defensive stuff to cover skill issue

so

[frail saffron]

melee has some very abusable weapons

[smoky dock]

i’m aware of at least three instances of an attack being internally named after and completely copied from another game

[neon dew]

based

[smoky dock]

warding isn’t skill issue

[frail saffron]

I used half warding and half lucky

[neon dew]

oh I know

[frail saffron]

worked amazing

[smoky dock]

Warding is like, good and stuff

[neon dew]

warding is based as fuck tbh

ye

nah I wasn't dissing it

[smoky dock]

Okay good

[neon dew]

I was saying it helps cover if I have a skill issue to keep from dying

allows many more mistakes

whhich helps

my current setup is this

[smoky dock]

It grinds my gears to no end when people just completely write it off as bad because ‘damage good’ or whatever

[neon dew]

and some combination of these

[dusky ingot]

Damage is good

[frail saffron]

use the trident from argus does way too much dmg up until basically polter

[neon dew]

yeah nah I used to be that person like 2019 and then I realised I was stupid

[glad skiff]

Moreover, Kaleidoscope is the third contender for best weapon in ths game

[frail saffron]

can even be used until DoG in some cases

[neon dew]

mhage

[smoky dock]

add in Ambrosial Ampoule, the regen helps a ton in a very drawn out fight like Providence, and shortens the duration of very ouchy uhhhh

[dusky ingot]

But not as good as 200 defense pre-ml

[smoky dock]

Holy Flames

[frail saffron]

mage uhhh 1s lemme figure it out

[neon dew]

did you
look
at the second from the bottom

[limber sage]

I was about to say

[smoky dock]

evidently not

[limber sage]

[neon dew]

it's very good though yes

the entire ampoule line is good

[smoky dock]

okay look the sun lamp is in my eyes

[neon dew]

I figured absorber + ninja belt is better for dash and KBI than like

shield

since I already wanted the defensive stuff from absorber

and it's way better mobility

[smoky dock]

asgard’s valor is incredible since ram

But provi has nothing to ram

[neon dew]

and the green circle buff is nice

ye exactly

on provi specifically*

p sure community is maxed so far too

should be atleast

[smoky dock]

I’m not a fan of community anyways

[neon dew]

honestly same

but it's like

fine

[smoky dock]

It’s not unusable by any means

Just isn’t like

Absorber level good

[neon dew]

I might drop it tho since the biggest boon is flight time

which

uhhh

it's providence in infernum

[frail saffron]

augur of elements does stupud dps to prov tbh

[neon dew]

oh wait what is that

[smoky dock]

Consider Deific Amulet

[neon dew]

oh I see

[frail saffron]

hex doll clone for post-ML

but also stupidly fast

and crazy dmg

[smoky dock]

I used to be a hater but then I used it on Yharon

[neon dew]

I was considering it

[smoky dock]

It’s so funny

[frail saffron]

deific is honestly great idk why ppl think its bad

[smoky dock]

You get hit and the i-frames last ages. You avoid hits from completely unrelated attacks it’s SO funny

[neon dew]

based

does it stack with purple haze

[frail saffron]

I personally try to use other accessories but I do use it sometimes for some later fights

yes it stacks

it adds iframes

[neon dew]

based as fuck

[smoky dock]

uhhhh it’s complicated
short answer is Yeah

[neon dew]

oh also my alchohol setup is currently like

the mage drinks + haze

I figured that's solid

[frail saffron]

iframe buff math equation is fucked so easier to say yes

[smoky dock]

yeah

[neon dew]

I figured it's probably stupid but yeah

[edgy patrol]

Right yeah

Although G.end to me I wouldn't make the argument for being better then hellborn just due to the nature of needing a pretty specific build for some stages of the game to make full use of it

[neon dew]

the short answer being yes with like ************** makes sense

[smoky dock]

the alcohols are pretty well balanced imo so as long as it isn’t OBVIOUSLY useless it’s probably fine

[frail saffron]

oh also if you've ever used the subsuming vortex then you've at least made augur of elements

[neon dew]

I have never done a full mhage pt

[frail saffron]

still great to use up until post prov

oh

gl then

[neon dew]

yeaa

ty!

[frail saffron]

nearly done

[neon dew]

it's been alright

ye

it seems to have had a nice power spike in this tier tbh

[edgy patrol]

Purple Haze/Moonshine + Rum + Carribian Rum is the best alcohol combination

Fight me

[frail saffron]

after killing primordial wyrm the mage run is basically a matter of learning boss attacks cause ur dps is at it's peak

[smoky dock]

anyways deific + purple haze can hit the i frame cap iirc

[neon dew]

is sand tooth necklace better or worse than destroyer emblem

what do u think

with these stats

[edgy patrol]

No
Iframe cap is 150 frames
That's 90 frames

[smoky dock]

typically i use moonshine, tequila sunrise, and then like, whatever

[neon dew]

I assume worse but yea

[smoky dock]

yeah you’re probably a credible source for that

[dusky ingot]

People using the actual Boss checklist in boss checklist should be sent to some Asylum

[neon dew]

what does moonshine actually do again

[dusky ingot]

We all know the only way to enjoy Boss checklist is to use the journal

[neon dew]

oh defense

[frail saffron]

cause it doesnt take half the screen

[smoky dock]

SSTN is really not something you should consider without knowing exactly what it does
+10 armor pen means all your attacks deal 5 flat extra damage

[edgy patrol]

Gives a bunch of defensive stats at the cost of a bit of life Regen

[neon dew]

honestly

might try that

[dusky ingot]

I think closer to 70%

[neon dew]

10 defense and 3 DR sounds solid

[edgy patrol]

(SSTN is only good on exactly Blossom Flux)

[smoky dock]

Moonshine is +10 DEF, +3% DR, and -0.5 HP/s

[frail saffron]

personally if I can choose between 10 defense or 3 hp regen I'm always choosing regen

[smoky dock]

It’s completely free and splashable onto any setup

[neon dew]

the more defense you have the more worth every subsequent point of defense is

yea

which one would I replace if so

white wine?

[smoky dock]

Moonshine is the best alcohol in the game imo just with how universally helpful it is

[dusky ingot]

What if boss or armor disables life regen?

[smoky dock]

shruggies idk
I never used mage

[frail saffron]

if armor does then who cares what you use

[edgy patrol]

I personally go Moonshine and then double rum

Ever since I started using both rums I've had a blast

The extra mobility is SO GOOD

[smoky dock]

I never used five of the classes

[neon dew]

I feel like white wine makes sense

[frail saffron]

bosses dont disable it, but debuffs and rev/death do

[fervent nimbus]

SHOULD THE ABOMINATION HAVE 12M HP??? WITH 3 PEOPLE IN ETERNITY DEATH MODE????

[dusky ingot]

Only True Melee?

[smoky dock]

yeah

[frail saffron]

mobility is top tier for any build tbh

[dusky ingot]

Yup

[edgy patrol]

Sounds right
Base edeath abom is like 6.8mil iirc

[dusky ingot]

Not really, if you have enough defense who cares if you're a rock

[frail saffron]

I legit use magi until post ml or almost there in just about all runs

[dusky ingot]

You won't die anyway

[frail saffron]

in base calamity ye

on master death or infernum thats less the case

[edgy patrol]

Another reason the rums are great
Cancels out movement penalties for mollusk mixing and or the astral fishing drop

[frail saffron]

or better yet my fav challenge, master infernum

[dusky ingot]

Even in infernum you can basically kill everything with just defense and almost no mobility pre-ml

[smoky dock]

master infernum mentioned
killing this user

[waxen tide]

day ruined

[dusky ingot]

Master infernum sucks

Just use the stat slider from Mutant mod

Less buggy

[frail saffron]

yeah but that habit gets you kills post ml as a consequence

[edgy patrol]

URSA SERGANT
Took me a sec to remember the name

[dusky ingot]

Ursa Sergeant my goat

[edgy patrol]

I'm also a Weightless Candle type of guy

Sure the Regen or defense candle would probably fit my name sake a bit better

But I love weightless

[smoky dock]

Yeah, the master infernum patch doesn’t really do anything besides lift the restriction. It doesn’t make any effort in trying to make it function properly. Whatever happens next is between God and your machine

[frail saffron]

too lazy and currently building habits to not use major qol mods

[neon dew]

Which candle should I use?

[smoky dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112873622562947104/1323372407733489715/makesweet-bvmi24.gif

[edgy patrol]

LMAO

[frail saffron]

mobility

[smoky dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465195069406707722/1258796027469627454/ursaSergeantPet.gif

[neon dew]

for providence??????????

[dusky ingot]

Honestly permafrost concoction is also very underrated

[arctic wren]

Stupid question, I've killed Calamitas' Forgotten Shadow on Infernum like 8 times and haven't received Havoc's Breath. I'm assuming I'm just uber unlucky?

[neon dew]

mobility isn't really an issue

[frail saffron]

amen

[neon dew]

brothers drop iirc

[waxen tide]

it drops from brothers so yeah unlucky ig

[gloomy wedge]

ursa sergeant is bad because anything that reduces dash mobility is bad. hope this helps

[smoky dock]

Just like alcohols, as long as one isn’t OBVIOUSLY useless, it’s a safe bet

[dusky ingot]

Cause it can revive you and you will often survive pre-ml and has a couple mage buffs, HP regen

Very good accessory

[neon dew]

honestl;y I'd just go down a few difficulties and kill brothers and repeat

[smoky dock]

just dash again :5head:

[neon dew]

fair

[gloomy wedge]

this is also why ambergris is the best accessory to ever be conceived

[arctic wren]

nah its okay LOL

ive been clearing them really easily

[dusky ingot]

It's great man, you've never used it I'd guess

[arctic wren]

i just didnt wanna grind them without like

[smoky dock]

Amvergris hrtd me

[dusky ingot]

This I can agree with

[arctic wren]

knowing i was just unlucky

appreciate the response

[dusky ingot]

Helped me a lot with infernum dog

[smoky dock]

Also please don’t use gifs like this

[arctic wren]

My fault king

[smoky dock]

nw nw

[dusky ingot]

He deleted it cat_laugh

[gloomy wedge]

any guess on how i got this much def pre-plant

[waxen tide]

gravistar sabaton better smh smh smh

[smoky dock]

first question is if there's souls or not

er, fargo's souls? or no

[gloomy wedge]

yes

[smoky dock]

yeah that's the answer

[dusky ingot]

Ooo, I thought if you hated on it you must've not used it

[gloomy wedge]

no i LOVE ursa sergeant

[fervent nimbus]

FUCK YOU MEAN

LMAO

[gloomy wedge]

that shit is so busted

[smoky dock]

Ursa Sergeant is the best

It's so funny I love him

[gloomy wedge]

i just like meming on the "downside"

like who tf cares about dash speed be so honest

[dusky ingot]

No downside

[smoky dock]

-15% movement speed is completely irrelevant of a downside

[gloomy wedge]

oh right its movement speed

whatever lmao

[dusky ingot]

The Giant Clam armor + Ursa Sergeant best combo for mechs

[smoky dock]

dash velocity does have one use i thinky

[dusky ingot]

Yeah you gonna fly anyways

[smoky dock]

that being to increase dash length

[dusky ingot]

Oh no, using Ursa Sergeant against DoG won't be effective

[smoky dock]

Since dashes can cover more distance you can cross up a dashing boss with less precise timing which helps on fights like Duke Fishron and The Destroyer just to make the window to input a ram wider

[neon dew]

jesus christ this weapon is fucked against her holy shit

WAY more consistent DPS

[fading dove]

considering exos have ~12.5m on singleplayer eternity and are also a lot of targets yeah that sounds reasonable

[gloomy wedge]

which one

[humble marlin]

dont regular ex death exos have like 4m hp

[neon dew]

augur

[humble marlin]

ugh augur

[fervent nimbus]

💀

[gloomy wedge]

if you want a free win against provi just switch to ranger rq and use superradiant

[fervent nimbus]

i died like 50-70 times

and were still failing

[gloomy wedge]

do we have an acronym for that yet btw

srs?

[fervent nimbus]

we can barely get into phase 2

once we get it to like 7m hp

we die

[dusky ingot]

Use SupeRRadiant - USRR

[gloomy wedge]

wrong one, but close

[fervent nimbus]

how bad would calamity be if US person was trying to play this on Eu servers

[gloomy wedge]

pretty

[dusky ingot]

It'd probably be even worse than people from Australia playing on Hypixel

[humble marlin]

js call it superradiant

[arctic wren]

Got it after another like 5 tries ;-; 25% chance is NOT treating me well. had the same thing happen to me with bees knees

[humble marlin]

rip

[waxen tide]

they have 5.5mln on normal expert guh guh

[dusky ingot]

Lol I think I got like 2 before I killed Calclone on my run

[arctic wren]

im sobbing

[fervent nimbus]

dont get this refference

[dusky ingot]

It's a minecraft server, and its servers are in the US

And people from Australia have awful ping there

That's about it

[fervent nimbus]

so its unplayable

[dusky ingot]

I'd assume

[wispy topaz]

is there a place to like report bugs for infernum or something

[neon dew]

probably the infernum server

if anywhere

[elder nebula]

yeah

[wispy topaz]

fair enough

[arctic wren]

infernum has its own server but like its discontinued for the most part

from my understanding

they stopped working on it

[wispy topaz]

on the mod or the server

[dusky ingot]

I think no new content, but there will be bug fixes

[wispy topaz]

my game crashes when i send skeletron into space during his death animation

[arctic wren]

the mod

[wispy topaz]

ic

[arctic wren]

idr off the top of my head

[wispy topaz]

i did it on purpose but its definitely possible for someone to do this by accident

[arctic wren]

doesnt hurt to try bug reporting tho

[oblique pawn]

Hot take but i really like and dislike the avatar of emptiness

Same goes for the entire wotg mod

[fervent nimbus]

BRO THIS IS FUCKED

[oblique pawn]

I hate mods that include jumpscares for no reason

[fervent nimbus]

42H

SO FAR

ETERNITY DEATH CALAMITY X FARGO

as a trio

and were at the abomination

[oblique pawn]

Especially when you're focused you can't be prepared for jumpscares in a jumpscareless game

[fervent nimbus]

500 deaths

[dusky ingot]

I love the mod that gives a 1/10000 chance to get jumpscares every second

[oblique pawn]

That's what you signed up for

[fading dove]

just tested drage on abom and yeah its pretty good

[oblique pawn]

I didn't sign up for flashing lights and jumpecare ever 3 seconds mod

[fading dove]

requires aggressive play because its fucking drage

[oblique pawn]

I signed up for calamity 2.0

[fading dove]

but yeah it deals good damage

[fervent nimbus]

abomination is fucked

also what do u reccon in calamity x fargo etenrnity death is the best and worst dps

[oblique pawn]

Can there be a mod to turn off wotg jumpscares

[fervent nimbus]

@fading dove

[oblique pawn]

It would just

Be so much better

[fading dove]

drage is absolutely insane right now

[oblique pawn]

Noxus jumpscares wasn't even fair bro

🥀

[wispy topaz]

what mod is this from

[fading dove]

nycro's

[oblique pawn]

I kinda regret doing wotg

But im too far into it to quit

[limber sage]

noxus isn't in WotG anymore though?

and there isn't any jumpscares either, unless you count what happens with old duke a jumpscare

[dusky ingot]

Old Duke appearing from the tornado gave me a heart attack

[fervent nimbus]

also what do u reccon in calamity x fargo etenrnity death is the best and worst dps

like classes

[limber sage]

if talking dps and not kill times, when I was trying to beat mutant and almost regressed to my LoL toxicity, tainted iridescent excal got him down 20% hp during the arena wide nuke attack

which isn't very long for that much hp drain

but there's not many windows to true melee mutant so

[cedar laurel]

Melee because

[dusky ingot]

Go classless or no balls

[limber sage]

but my best attempts were all summoner, due to constant and consistent dps (I also used catharsis for the whip)

[fading dove]

this was off tier my bad

here's an on tier loadout

[limber sage]

oh, tsukarin, you often say that stellar novas and the stellar array from stars above are extremely busted yeah?

because while yes they are, the weapons are also hilariously strong. (especially a summon you get post evil 1, and a summoner weapon post skeletron)

[fading dove]

i didnt have much experience with the weapons so i couldnt give much info

[limber sage]

well

there's a summon that's basically the chibi/mini form of a hololive myth member

and it scales with world progression

and it is absurd

I'm talking like, tens of thousands of dps easily if used right

and then there's the 'true melee' apalisk summon weapon.

the ones that 'scale' are overtuned

as all hell

[fading dove]

amazing

[neon dew]

thinking on it

the community would still probably just be better than destroyer emblem for me, no?
slightly lower damage stats sure, but I only lose like 4% crit and 2.2% damage

and I gain movement speed, DR, defense, and life regen

[fading dove]

how far in are you

[neon dew]

providence lol

it's at 83% for context

[fading dove]

ehhhh

[dusky ingot]

Aren't there some good survivability accessories you could use instead?

[fading dove]

neither are worth

[neon dew]

honestly fair

what other survivability options would be solid

[dusky ingot]

Depends on what you're currently using

[neon dew]

mage, augur of the elements, infernum

[limber sage]

so, I know it's storm weaver but...this shouldn't be possible regardless
https://youtu.be/HELPxtHOkFc

[pale mulch]

I noticed that when I was fighting Crabulon, I can't land on platforms is that normal? I have Fargo's DLC installed too.

[limber sage]

stardust armour

[pale mulch]

I still defeated Crabulon, but I found it weird.

[dusky ingot]

I'd use the Cherished Sealocket from Bereft Vassal

[fading dove]

look at your debuffs

[neon dew]

I wasn't sure if that was actually any good or not

but got it

[fading dove]

jesus christ

[pale mulch]

i'll certainly try doing that mid-fight

[limber sage]

are you using fargos?

[pale mulch]

Yes,

[fading dove]

tbf they show above your head

[neon dew]

if those icons are because of fargos youc an config them off

[limber sage]

yep, you can disable the permabuff icons

[neon dew]

helps reduce visual clutter

[dusky ingot]

I really like it, and if you have a bit of time during the fight you can swap it out for another accessory while it's on cooldown

[pale mulch]

Thanks for the tip, this has been bugging me for a week lmao

[dusky ingot]

Like for Amalgamated brain

[neon dew]

I see I see okay!
any other suggestions for other options

brain wouldn't really matter

because of ninja belt

and universal dodge CD

it's just a worse destroyer emblem with my current setup

[dusky ingot]

Oh yeah, didn't notice the belt tbh

[fading dove]

crabulon, perf hive, deerclops, and golem inflict low ground

[dusky ingot]

Then yeah

I'd probably use the Sealocket and otherwise you're probably fine, though for most fights wings will probably be good to use

[neon dew]

I usually use proper wings but I needed the speed

[dusky ingot]

You could even try something like Nebula Wings just for the stat boosts

[dusky ingot]

Fair

[neon dew]

most post-ML fights the boots are hnestly just worse

but provi I feel like, even though I'm in the air the entire time, I don't have the acceleration without tracers

it's a 2.6 accel multiplier

vs 1.5 on nebula wings

[gloomy wedge]

i remember playing 1.3 stars above and using this one post-skele weapon well into post-plant

[dusky ingot]

Yup, but just wanted to say in case you were trying to fight everything with boots on

[gloomy wedge]

because it was just better than everything else

[neon dew]

yea nah

[dusky ingot]

Starboard can be pretty fast especially with Hover

[gloomy wedge]

maybe i should give stars above a 2nd shot after i lose this hardcore run

[neon dew]

oh true

[limber sage]

honestly, it's still a fun mod, and the bosses (especially the last boss) can be quite challenging

[dusky ingot]

When you last played was there the cool sword Bury the Light?

[limber sage]

Bury the Light is hilariously busted

[gloomy wedge]

yeah it was the final boss weapon iirc

[gloomy wedge]

i remember being thoroughly disappointed personally

[neon dew]

oh and starboard has the funny presss up to boost feature

[gloomy wedge]

because the bosses were all like

[dusky ingot]

It's pretty easy, so master might be a good choice

[gloomy wedge]

if your boss has to show what attack its about to use in a bar on the bottom of the screen

im immediately disinterested

[dusky ingot]

But the final boss is pretty fun

The space lady or something

[gloomy wedge]

i do not remember her

[limber sage]

tsukiyomi

and her fucking camera lock bs

[gloomy wedge]

oh its a camera lock fight

[dusky ingot]

Maybe she got added after you last played?

[gloomy wedge]

sounds fun but

[pale mulch]

do you guys still use afk farmers for cal + fargo's? i'm thinking of building one like the vanilla.

[gloomy wedge]

a bit strange for a final boss

[gloomy wedge]

theres no real reason to honestly

[limber sage]

it's way more than that

[gloomy wedge]

fargos lets you farm basically everything way more effectively than any vanilla methods beyond super optimized mob farms

[limber sage]

but I won't go into detail

[dusky ingot]

What you gonna farm?

Potatoes?

[pale mulch]

RoD tbh, I was thinking of building one pre-hardmode before I reach hardmode.

Because enemies are more tame.

[limber sage]

buy it from wizard

[dusky ingot]

Buy from wizard

[limber sage]

put him in hallow and buy it

[dusky ingot]

Fabsol did not remove it I think

Though he was planning to, luckily he got so much backlash for that he was kicked from the mod

[limber sage]

it's gonna be craftable in SSO and not purchasable

[pale mulch]

I see, got it, thanks, glad I asked because I could've been wasting so much time lmao

[limber sage]

a huge majority of items are craftable

[pale mulch]

woah, just for suggesting to remove it?

[limber sage]

like the ankh components

[limber sage]

that's not why he was removed

at all

[elder nebula]

twas a joke

[wispy topaz]

the fuck ???

[gloomy wedge]

good thing thats the only reason he left the team

[neon dew]

he got removed for being a transphobe and creep and that's about all I think should be said to not devolve

[gloomy wedge]

and absolutely nothing else happened

[dusky ingot]

Storm Weaver is ghosting you

[wispy topaz]

im pre-mechs why did he spawn in the first place

[limber sage]

hardmode

that's why

[dusky ingot]

He does that on infernum

In the sky

[wispy topaz]

just spawns naturally ?

[pale mulch]

I see, I'm new to the modding community of this game so I don't know what happens behind the scenes, yt doesn't really talk about these lmao.

[dusky ingot]

Sometimes eats some harpies and wyverns

Or maybe a cloud elemental

[elder nebula]

yep

[limber sage]

mostly wyverns

[daring willow]

i thought this was a terraria community lmao

[neon dew]

do you think bad people don't worm their way into normal communities

[elder nebula]

it is...?

[limber sage]

calamity is not as unhinged as vanilla terraria community

[neon dew]

because if not I have some information about the internet

[elder nebula]

those aren't mutually exclusive

[daring willow]

just the last place i thought id see that lol

[elder nebula]

anyway talk about fab in #general-talk lest you incur the wrath of the mods

[dusky ingot]

Aight, it's almost 4 AM, kebab stand gonna open in 5 hours, gotta wait just 5 more hours

And then kebab will illuminate the darkness

[neon dew]

bad people will end up in positions of power in normal communities sometimes

it sucks but it happens
tldr get rid of them and continue on as normal

that's all I'll say

[dusky ingot]

It isn't? I feel like it's more unhinged

But maybe because I don't really know anything from vanilla community

[daring willow]

is summoner fun in infurnum?

[pale mulch]

is calamity a complete mod? and what is fables?

[dusky ingot]

Everyone is great until they reach a position of power

[limber sage]

I'm not sure if it's changed since I poked my head in, but last time people were being hated and banned for modding the game

[neon dew]

not true but again, moving on

[dusky ingot]

Still ongoing, Fables is basically a Reinterpretation of Calamity, separate mods doe

[gloomy wedge]

calamtiy is not technically complete, but it might as well be honestly

[dusky ingot]

It's like Fnaf and Fnaf: Remake

[gloomy wedge]

there's more content than basically any other mod out there atm

[dusky ingot]

Very busted

[gloomy wedge]

fables is a much newer mod with a lot less content but it is VERY high quality stuff

[dusky ingot]

If fun? Maybe

[pale mulch]

i see, i'm enjoying it so much, basically playing it all day when i can lmao

[limber sage]

summoner is fun in terms of "Haha watch that hp bar fuckin MELT"

ranger is fun in terms of actively killing shit

[dusky ingot]

Fables or Calamity?

[pale mulch]

Calamity, I haven't finished Calamity.

[dusky ingot]

Ranger is fun cause it has a total of like 3 viable weapons across the game

And is boring AF

[dusky ingot]

Oh yeah gl, calamity is very fun

And very big

[neon dew]

I like calamity a lot

there's a reason it's my second most played game

[pale mulch]

i can see that, it's kinda difficult with fargo's though.

[dusky ingot]

What is most played?

[cosmic kettle]

XEROX

[neon dew]

final fantasy 14

[dusky ingot]

You using Fargo's with it? Fargo's souls?

[neon dew]

I can not recommend XIV do not play it

[dusky ingot]

Aren't final fantasy short games?

[neon dew]

LOL no

[limber sage]

to be fair I mostly play gfb so, i get fun stuff like this

[neon dew]

JRPGs are usually pretty damn long and FF is no exception

14 is an MMO though

[pale mulch]

Yeah, I first played Cal standalone though up until Hardmode with a friend, but the world's generation afterwards was destructive crimson went through the bases my friend and I built.

We were playing in the constant and in that, I gave up and started a new run alone, with the community addons such as fargo's and i am now suffering each day in maso mode with amped up difficulty in master.

[limber sage]

I hope you have fargo souls dlc as well

[pale mulch]

I do.

[limber sage]

ok, good

[neon dew]

like FF7 for instance is like 30-40 hours or so

[dusky ingot]

I would not recommend maso mode for a first playthrough, but as long as you have fun

[daring willow]

how many phases does twins have

[neon dew]

not remake, the original, they are 2 entirely different videogames*

[daring willow]

on infurnum]

[dusky ingot]

I thought they were like 40 hours max honestly

[daring willow]

is it easier than skele?

[pale mulch]

Members from the Fargo discord also told me that, I was too stubborn to listen lmao.

[neon dew]

depends but usually they're pretty dang long

[limber sage]

og ff7 took me a long ass time to beat as a kid, and I never killed the two secret bosses

[dusky ingot]

Normal Skeletron or skelly prime?

[limber sage]

emerald and ruby weapon

[daring willow]

prime

infurnum

[neon dew]

and that's ignoring side content

[dusky ingot]

Prime is easiest mech on infernum

In my opinion

[elder nebula]

mhm

[daring willow]

i did destroyer i wanna fight my 2nd mech

idk which to do

[calm dagger]

why was plague bringer lowk easy asl

[dusky ingot]

Twins I believe are most difficult

[calm dagger]

fs

[limber sage]

it's essentially a buffed queen bee so

🤷

[dusky ingot]

But it has very fun attacks in infernum

The one where you destroy the drones is very unique

[limber sage]

even in the lore, pbg is just an augmented queen bee

queen bee in infernum also has some interesting and unique attacks

although the 'nuke building' for pbg is outta left field

[dusky ingot]

Though let's be fair, 99% of infernum devs' attention went to Aquatic Scourge and Great Sand Shark

[oblique pawn]

WAIT THEY GOT RID OF HIM?!

[dusky ingot]

And after that they put a bit into scal

And wyrm

[limber sage]

yes, like, 5 months ago

[gloomy wedge]

Kinda

[daring willow]

i think my most fun in infurnum up to this point has been queen slime the fight felt like darksouls dance type fight with the lasers it was great i nearly nohit it first try

very cool fight

[neon dew]

PBG is so funny the shoved a queen bee into armor and gave her super aids and nukes and said "go my child, do a crime"

[gloomy wedge]

Nameless Deity and Avatar of Emptiness are entirely disconnected from Xeroc and Noxus now

[oblique pawn]

I just got back into wotg and the stupid fuck avatar of emptiness gave me a jumpscare for no reason

[gloomy wedge]

They’re just kinda their own thing

[dusky ingot]

I love astrum deus cause it's SO DAMN COOL

Easy, but cool AF

[neon dew]

deus is neat

[daring willow]

i havnt fought him yet

[radiant cradle]

how does one not recieve a shitton of damage right before empress moon attack? (when she teleports and shoots out huge seemingly unavoidable stars)

infernum empress

[dusky ingot]

Some people think Nameless Deity is Xeroc 💀

[gloomy wedge]

I think my favorite infernum fight pre-ml was probably calclone

Or aquatic scourge

[dusky ingot]

What class are you?

[daring willow]

rogue

[gloomy wedge]

I did until I got clarification, but I also really don’t understand cal lore, so

[elder nebula]

i can tell you

[gloomy wedge]

Nah I’m trying to learn via bestiary

I’ll read the lore docs when I give up on that

[elder nebula]

👍

[dusky ingot]

Ooo, okay, cause if you were mage you can absolutely destroy deus right after plantera from what I remember

[dusky ingot]

Well it is pretty obvious - Nameless Deity can't be Xeroc, cause Xeroc has a freakin name

[daring willow]

i feel like a mage rn im using kelvin and it feels like a slower razor typhoon

[dusky ingot]

Does good damage doe

[daring willow]

mines at 314

[dusky ingot]

Unlike Razorblade

[pale mulch]

i never tried this in vanilla but if I use a truffle worm pre-hardmode will the duke spawn?

[dusky ingot]

Yes

[pale mulch]

oh shit.

[dusky ingot]

You can do Fishron pre-boss

Theoretically

in calamity

[daring willow]

im using daed armor

[pale mulch]

I am way too curious, I have to try if I can beat it pre-hardmode.

[shy quest]

where do you find death wishes

[neon dew]

fuck this was my best attempt so far

god dammit

she left

[dusky ingot]

Nighttime? Try doing her daytime

[neon dew]

9.09% is good though

no

[dusky ingot]

Much easier

[neon dew]

look at the time

at the top right

[dusky ingot]

Oh yeah

[neon dew]

she LEFT

it WAS daytime

[dusky ingot]

The invaders have left

[pale mulch]

i died in one hit from duke fishron

[dusky ingot]

Btw. the weapon that fires typhoons in 8 directions is very good for provi

Aswell as the bubbles

[neon dew]

GOD

[dusky ingot]

But I prefer the typhoons honestly

[neon dew]

Augur is doing more damage

[limber sage]

effervescence is stupidly broken

[neon dew]

typhoons are nice but augur is doing more

[limber sage]

vs provi

[neon dew]

same with effervescence

[dusky ingot]

Really? I don't think I even had Augur

[neon dew]

it's rly solid

[dusky ingot]

How it work?

[neon dew]

shadowflame hex doll

[dusky ingot]

Ah

[neon dew]

but for this tier

does a gorrillion damage

big target so it hits her with all of them

etc

nuclear fury is good but the other 2 I'm using have been better

effervescence if I can't aim or something

augur otherwise

usually effer is during crystal phase

since she goes tiny

and it's elss visual clutter

so I can dodge

[fading dove]

iirc nuclear fury uses static

which makes it pretty damn bad for prov

[daring willow]

what should i do before 3rd mech

probably gold hearts but like

gear wise

[dusky ingot]

I love how basically everyone has a completely different opinion on weapons, and for everyone the weapon that works best seems to be different

[fading dove]

you also dont really need homing on the giant ass hitbox that constantly stays above you

[dusky ingot]

Except for the couple busted weapons

[dusky ingot]

I cannot aim and dodge at the same time, okay

[daring willow]

suprisingly i havnt needed gold hearts i havnt even went for them i havnt felt the need for them yet

[neon dew]

^^^

[waxen tide]

cryogen wings or whatever name -> starlight wings/angel wings/harpy wings/ jetpack
corrosive spine sucks -> mirage mirror
counter scarf -> ornate shield /evasion scarf (depending on the boss tbh)
rogue emblem -> ursa sergeant/ giant tortoise shell

[neon dew]

uses what

[dusky ingot]

Static immunity frames

[pale mulch]

I'm going to take on BoC now, is there any recommended accessory/armor I should use?

[daring willow]

wait the tortoise shells dash thing does that mean you can do the i frame dash constantly without the cooldown

[prisma jewel]

Curious for a friend, what melee weapon is best for wof infernum?

[daring willow]

idk id use the oathsword it looks cool

[humble marlin]

nights edge/dark lance/that one sword made from slimegods drops

[daring willow]

or just use the turbulance for rogue even with mele it probably still destroys wof

[gloomy wedge]

gelitic blade

[humble marlin]

yeah gelitic

[gloomy wedge]

it def wont work as well when youre not using stealth iirc

[lucid cypress]

does the fargos souls dlc mod with calamity difficulties have any conflicts with wrath of the machines

like does wrath of the machines ai just fully replace it or is it some buggy amalgamation

[daring willow]

bruh i had twins to 900hp and died to the fuckin laser charge shit#

[fading dove]

there's no reason to run wotm

its a standalone version of eternity exos

[lucid cypress]

doesnt it also change mechs

[fading dove]

im sure it would absolutely fuck it up because its trying to run the same ai twice

nope

just exos

[lucid cypress]

oh

[daring willow]

lmao wtf is that cutscene after the twins fight

[fading dove]

infernum?

[lucid cypress]

draedon in the cuck chair

[daring willow]

yeah

[daring willow]

^

[fading dove]

someone's taken notice of you

[humble marlin]

they might want to test you later on

[lucid cypress]

any clue whats causing this
https://medal.tv/games/terraria/clips/kKfEkgTiMq_Ix_2WP?invite=cr-MSx3TTYsNzA2Njg5MzE

[daring willow]

is that a boss in only infurnum or sum?

[lucid cypress]

never happens right after opening the world it takes some time before it starts

[fading dove]

what the fuck

i have no idea

[daring willow]

is there extra bosses in infurnum?

[lucid cypress]

happens with shortswords and broadswords too

just the woosh noise

[fading dove]

great sand shark is converted from a miniboss to a boss and is retiered

[lucid cypress]

it cuts out calamity music but not vanilla music

[fading dove]

thats pretty much it

[daring willow]

do you have a animation mod#

[lucid cypress]

bereft vassal my behated

fucking resetting my calamity boss checks

[lucid cypress]

just the eternity mode swing rework for swords

[pale mulch]

BoC is so damn difficult

[daring willow]

my giant clam will never check in my boss check ive killed that mf so many times trying to get it to turn green

[lucid cypress]

the bereft vassal portal can just delete all your calamity boss checks

not a visual bug either

the community will be weakened

until you kill them again

[dusky ingot]

I think no

[lucid cypress]

yes

i looked

[dusky ingot]

I think that's just a Boss Checklist bug

[lucid cypress]

it dropped from like 70% to 40ish

and it went back up after refighting them

[dusky ingot]

I heard Boss Checklist Lite doesn't have bosses removed from Berfet Vasal

[lucid cypress]

this happened 3 times

on 3 separate playthroughs

i ALWAYS use the community

i usually get it first thing post plant

[dusky ingot]

Community is almost always outclassed doe

At almost all stages of the game

[lucid cypress]

dmg boost, crit boost, movement boost, dr boost and flight time boost

its kinda cracked

as long as you power it up

especially with how broken defense builds are in calamity

the extra dr goes a long way

[dusky ingot]

I'd honestly just rather spend that slot on some good defensive accessory

[humble marlin]

[pale mulch]

How did you guys defeat BoC with Fargo's? Once it gets past 50% it just goes haywire.

[lucid cypress]

i didnt

i fought eow

took 260 tries but way easier

[pale mulch]

The confusion debuff is crazy.

[radiant cradle]

ok this feels so wrong 😭 i accidentally killed her before the moon attack but i guess a win is a win (i died to the moon attack over 10 times)

[dusky ingot]

EoW harder than infernum dog confirmed

[lucid cypress]

get spiky balls and a bunch of dot enchantments

[humble marlin]

dw 90% of people skip the moon phase

and its valid cuz it sucks

[dusky ingot]

What is that russian boss?

[radiant cradle]

Ukrainian

[lucid cypress]

tbf it was getfixedboi maso mode

[radiant cradle]

thats empress of light

[lucid cypress]

and yes it was harder than infernum dog

[dusky ingot]

ah okay

[humble marlin]

anything is harder than inf DoG

[dusky ingot]

Don't these countries use same language?

[radiant cradle]

nope

[dusky ingot]

Sure buddy, now take your meds

[radiant cradle]

russian is not even one of the two most similar languages to Ukrainian

[dusky ingot]

What are the two?

[lucid cypress]

im finally gonna get to experience a third mutant fight

ive seen eternity mode mutant and masogfb mutant

[radiant cradle]

Polish and Belarus'

[lucid cypress]

working towards masodeath now

[dusky ingot]

The letters are just similar, so I confuse them usually

[pale mulch]

Wait, does BoC gets enraged if I fight it in the surface of the crimson?

[lucid cypress]

no

[lucid cypress]

youre on eternity right

[pale mulch]

Yes

[lucid cypress]

then nearby biome doesnt matter

its always crimson as long as boc is alive

[humble marlin]

I aint wrong

[lyric kiln]

wack, I'm using MoreZenithItems (which is honestly very fun, adds lots of new weapons to every subclass, and seems to be pretty balanced from what I've seen, arguably even a bit weak compared to Calamity weapons), and also Colored Damage Numbers. And for some reason the Night's Shortsword is popping up blue damage numbers, aka magic damage

but it still seems to be scaling with my melee damage

so I guess it's dealing magic damage that scales with melee damage bonuses?

[dusky ingot]

1.2 King Slime would like to disagree

[lucid cypress]

man i was so confused when i got back to calamity after a huge break and my terra shortsword didnt exist anymore

[dusky ingot]

Yeah it sucks that they removed these, but it'd be too broken now that you can aim with shortswords

[lucid cypress]

no fucking way

[lyric kiln]

but yeah, the removal of the shortsword weapons from Calamity was truly a very sad day

[lucid cypress]

my calamity experience was weird

i first did an expert playthrough cus i was too skill issue for revengeance back before 1.4 was ported to tmodloader

and like a few months ago i jumped right into master mode infernum

i havent even seen normal death mode

[lyric kiln]

I do appreciate that the MoreZenithItems are actually balanced for Calamity, because all the Night's Edge tier items require Purified Gel, all the Terra tier items require Living Shards, and all the Zenith tier items require Auric Bars

well, I say balanced

[lucid cypress]

man i remember trying the zenith for thanatos

[dusky ingot]

No one who hasn't experienced Calamity + Tremor can't remember the great days

[lyric kiln]

I think the new weapons from MoreZenithItems are as a whole generally weaker than Calamity weapons

[lucid cypress]

i laughed my ass off seeing how low the dps did

what did they do to zenith bro

its so ass

instantly outclassed

[lyric kiln]

but they're fun to use

[dusky ingot]

Zenith is very good in calamity

[lyric kiln]

MoreZenithItems does also add some cool weapons to patch some holes for some subclasses

[dusky ingot]

For Ares and for Scal

[lyric kiln]

like the Wooden Flamethrower

[lucid cypress]

cosmic shiv had better dps

[lyric kiln]

I mean, most of the weapons in Calamity aren't top tier DPS

if you only look at what has the highest DPS in each tier then most weapons get skipped over entirely

that doesn't mean the other weapons don't have reasons to be used nonetheless

[pulsar terrace]

Just got to him, beat it first try. I don't see what's so hard about him.

[lucid cypress]

providence ranged weapons

had me bawling bro

[dusky ingot]

It's very difficult imo

[lucid cypress]

everything was ass except planetary annihilation

which just decimated everything

[pulsar terrace]

Maybe melee is just good for him, idk.

[dusky ingot]

Also, the boss is pretty glitchy in infernum and it counted me 2000 attempts even though I did like 30

[pulsar terrace]

😭

[lucid cypress]

solyn quest

she force despawns it but infernum wants him there

every frame it spawns and despawns

and each one counts as an attempt

[dusky ingot]

Maybe, I dunno

But it is currently my most fought boss according to boss checklist

Even more than DoG, which took 483

[lucid cypress]

dog was like 180 my first playthrough

around 20 for all the others

[pale mulch]

i did it i beat boc holy shit that was so confusing

[pulsar terrace]

Gg

[pale mulch]

And I just learned that the story the boss drops are memoirs of the player and not simple stories of what the environment or boss was.

[daring willow]

im too weak for ast dues what do i upgrade next

[pale mulch]

why are your relics colored?

[dusky ingot]

Diid yoyu kill plantera/

[dusky ingot]

Infernum gives black relics

[daring willow]

not yet

just killed 3rd mech

[dusky ingot]

Probably next thing you should do then

[daring willow]

infurnum

[dusky ingot]

After that I think you can get new armor from solar eclipse

[pale mulch]

Oh, I was planning to play CalFargo with Infernum but it was discouraged.

[dusky ingot]

But for plantera you need to prepare a big arena

[dusky ingot]

Infernum and eternity do not mix

They'd just break

[daring willow]

i hate that cragmaw doesnt have an infurnum relic

[pale mulch]

In your opinion which is harder? Is it Infernum or Eternity?

[dusky ingot]

Eternity probably more unpredictable

[daring willow]

i havnt tried eternity but infurnum is somewhat hard

[dusky ingot]

So harder

[daring willow]

ive done most of my bosses in under 20 attempts though

[pale mulch]

I see, after I'm done with CalFargo I'll give Infernum a shot.

[dusky ingot]

Infernum has set boss patterns, so if you learn them once you can basically beat them quite consistently

[daring willow]

eow was my hardest boss lmao it took me like 40 tries

[pale mulch]

Took me 106 for one boss in Fargo called Cursed Coffin, hated that.

[dusky ingot]

I do prefer infernum doe, feels more polished imo

[daring willow]

infurnum feels like darksouls in my mind the boss battles are more like dances instead of mixed up bs attacks that 1 shot

[pale mulch]

It may be because I just suck and that I haven't even lasted a month since I played Terraria.

[daring willow]

you can learn and move with them better for nohits

[pulsar terrace]

wait why is signus so hard in infernum

😭

[dusky ingot]

Yeah, a lot like darksouls 1 - most bosses you can just become a brick and facetank them

[daring willow]

not with rogue 😭

[dusky ingot]

Wdym? It's very easy

[dusky ingot]

Rogue is very tanky

[daring willow]

i have to learn to almost nohit bosses

[dusky ingot]

Like #2 or #3 in terms of defenses

[daring willow]

i run full silent though

i like my stealth hits

and i only have daed armor

[pulsar terrace]

my perception of difficulty is skewed, ceaseless = free, signus = pain

[dusky ingot]

I'd get Ursa Sergeant if I were you btw., instead of tortoise shell probably

[daring willow]

wait i can get ecliupse armor pre plantera cant i?

[lucid cypress]

you have to do cal clone first

but yes

[dusky ingot]

Not exactly sure, I thought it was post plant

[daring willow]

i have it i just havnt used it

[dusky ingot]

It's goog defensive

[daring willow]

no you can go into temple with hoik no?

[lucid cypress]

thats to spawn eclipse

[daring willow]

oh the drop is post

[lucid cypress]

eclipse enemies dont drop veils until post calclone

[daring willow]

damnit

[dusky ingot]

Eclipse has different stages of progression

[daring willow]

i forgot how to even spawn calclone

[lucid cypress]

eye of desolation

[dusky ingot]

Eye of Desolation

[lucid cypress]

easy to craft

[dusky ingot]

Calclone is very hard on infernum doe

[lucid cypress]

i dont even remember what it takes i just always have the items in magic storage

[dusky ingot]

Fun, but hard

[lucid cypress]

FUCK those passive debuffs dude

[dusky ingot]

I think it may be the Unholy Cores and some essence of chaos?

[daring willow]

yeah i already have ursa sergent

that over tortoise shell?

[dusky ingot]

I'd pick it over Tortoise shell

Though if you don't feel good using it you can swap it out

[daring willow]

ill try it

[dusky ingot]

But imo very good accessory

[young herald]

anyone have tips for nohit hive mind? im using flamrang atm but idk if there's better options

[pulsar terrace]

okay how do you dodge the signus attack where the screen goes dark and he does the slashing things

[dusky ingot]

Run

[young herald]

idk what im dying to it feels like everything except the balls

[pulsar terrace]

that actually explains my issue, i use wings without boots

[daring willow]

alrightt time to first attempt calclone

[dusky ingot]

I mean, run with wings or whatever

I don't think boots are needed, run as in get the hell out of there as fast as you can

And you can probably outpace it

And the providence arena is nice since it's just a big space for the fight

[pulsar terrace]

I DIDNT EVEN THINK ABOUT USING THAT

😭

[dusky ingot]

Wings are probably faster than boots anyways

[young herald]

it's the wall of eaters that i think is the biggest issue but i haven't made it past that

[daring willow]

wait that was fun af

calclone is such a cool fight

1st try

but like that looked cool af the attacks are very nice

[dusky ingot]

Bro is cracked

[daring willow]

i thought itd have another phase though

[dusky ingot]

Took me like 30 attempts tbh

[daring willow]

this is my first time on infurn i havnt even fully done calam on rev before

[dusky ingot]

Calclone is nice because it's actually like Scal

[pulsar terrace]

yep the moment i started using that arena the boss was free
(for your sanity don't ask what i was using before 😭)

[daring willow]

ive been playing this world for like 2 days now

[dusky ingot]

Nice, you are goog

Who knows, maybe you'll even do DoG below 100 attempts

[young herald]

im using flamarang molten armor and these are my accessories

[daring willow]

my arena lmao

[dusky ingot]

Maybe bundle of balloons?

Might help?

[young herald]

isnt bundle of balloons post hive mind

[dusky ingot]

Damn, how much time it took you to build this?

[dusky ingot]

Oh yeah maybe that's right

[daring willow]

never seen it before i only got to prov in normal calam

[dusky ingot]

I might've remembered it wrong

[daring willow]

i used instabridges

[dusky ingot]

Oh, still must've took quite a bit

[daring willow]

theyre like 10 dynamite 1000 wood platforms and 5 fallen stars each i used 18 of them

so alot of wood

[young herald]

im using imps too as my summon (got 2)

[daring willow]

18000 platforms 9000 wood

i got the drill from the lab so it was somewhat fast to get the wood

fallen stars took the most time

[smoky dock]

eugh

[fading dove]

does dragon rage's twirler count as a piercing projectile for screwdriver

wait i can just turn damage variance off and check on a dummy

yo

hello more mult damage

[calm dagger]

whats the best mage weapon for astrum worm

[night ibex]

anyone know an easy way to dodge astrageldon's nova lances?
like the only problem im having with the boss

[dusky ingot]

Astrum Deus?

Art Attack I believe

[fading dove]

art attack when it literally fucking eats worms alive

[dusky ingot]

20k dps go brrr

[fading dove]

ngl i can't really give any tips beyond learning what order they fire in

yes its consistent

[night ibex]

i thought these were at least random

[dusky ingot]

How does that attack look?

[fading dove]

its the nova slimers during geldon's rapid dashes

[night ibex]

tracking spears on your position

[fading dove]

the ones that make an attack that looks like exalted horizon

[calm dagger]

woah how do i use ts

[dusky ingot]

There were spears?

[calm dagger]

i js made it

[fading dove]

theyre called nova lances iirc but theyre more just spikes

[dusky ingot]

More or less draw a circle for like 3 seconds or so

[night ibex]

yeah

i saw one guy circle them

it sometimes works

[dusky ingot]

And everything inside it takes damage

[night ibex]

somtimes doesnt

[dusky ingot]

3 seconds is around the level where the damage is max since the damage scales with time spent to draw

[dusky ingot]

It always works great

[night ibex]

not for me

[dusky ingot]

Just gotta learn it

But it can easily destroy Astrum Deus pre-golem

[lyric kiln]

oh heh, I do find it kind of funny that Fargo's integration into Calamity places the Fargo's boot upgrades (Zephyr Boots, Aeolus Boots) in between the Calamity boot upgrades, so it goes Terraspark -> Zephyr -> Angel -> Aeolus -> Celestial instead of Terraspark -> Angel -> Celestial. But since Zephyr includes a horseshoe balloon in its recipe but Angel Treads doesn't, that means Zephyr Boots give a jump height increase, then Angel Treads loses that, then Aeolus Boots get the jump height increase back, then Celestial Tracers lose that again

though granted by Celestial Tracers it's mostly the wing speed that matters anyways

[dusky ingot]

Well tbh who uses boots anyways?

[fading dove]

the wing speed thats worse than starboard

by a significant margin

[lyric kiln]

actually, now that I look at it, Aeolus Boots also don't include the Harpy Ring stats either

so Aeolus Boots are Terraspark plus Horseshoe Balloon, Eurus Socks, Amphibian Boots, Fairy Boots, and Dunerider Boots

while Celestial Tracers is Terraspark plus Harpy Ring, and integrated wings

so really they're more like two completely different sets of boots than anything, so putting them in a single upgrade path is just confusing and weird

[daring willow]

lmao solar eclipse i stand still with spent fuel and net 5 platinum

its way too easy to make plat on this mod

[lyric kiln]

well yeah, money isn't really meant to be a real concern

[dusky ingot]

Yet some people still feel the need to use mod for infinite platinum coins

[daring willow]

bruh

[lyric kiln]

it's really easy to make enormous amounts of plat with basically zero effort

[daring willow]

i have 273 plat by justt progressing

[lyric kiln]

but genuinely infinite plat is a bit of an issue

because of the coin gun/sevens striker/other coin spending weapons

[dusky ingot]

Coin gun go brrr

[daring willow]

once i hit 1k plat im gonna build a box and just fill it with plat