Because usually classes dont have stardust armor until DoG as the best dps option
#calamity-addon-talk
grim swallow
limber sage
intergelactic ranger is a middle grounds for defense and damage
grim swallow
Only vortex with the stealth I think
snow nymph
But I have seen a vid where bro did more dmg than my summoner
cunning folio
I prefer Infernum tbh
at least it doesn't feel like stepping on minefield when in prehardmode
limber sage
calamity gfb is NOT like any other gfb though
yes, it's rough for DS, EoC, and KS, but post EoW it's actually not that hard
grim swallow
Why was a single button activating a boulder a granite golem statue and it dropped a hive on me bro😭
I dont want to play solo gfb
And my friend will not play not infernum
I also dont want to
limber sage
bonus drops from bosses in cal gfb
you can also get plaguenades and witherblossom in prehm
and hallowed armour
smoky dock
either one is okay
nimble wing
perhaps melee with leaning toward true melee whenever it works
smoky dock
dusky ingot
Yeah True Melee seems like it'd do incredibly well against dog
Which is like the main roadblock
smoky dock
it's meta
prisma jewel
Is this with full lucky good for scal? She's pissing me off bro phase 3 twins just hits so hard
dusky ingot
So being a warrior doesn't seem like a bad idea
smoky dock
nothing's stopping you from switching class whenever
smoky dock
Is this with full lucky good for scal? She's pissing me off bro phase 3 twins ju...
Switch to warding
dusky ingot
Is this with full lucky good for scal? She's pissing me off bro phase 3 twins ju...
Do you just have master mode on?
smoky dock
Otherwise it looks pretty standard
imo Dark Sun Ring over Chalice but either one's coolio
grim swallow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893924166925955104/1268262256693612554/tr...
I will do it soon
smoky dock
you can do it waltuh
grim swallow
I will suffer on polterghast
smoky dock
it isn't the worst thing ever but it's just one of the hardest fights
grim swallow
Well its my least favourite
And I have done 4 playthroughs
I enjoyed polterghast 0 times
dusky ingot
Is the DNA weapon considered True Melee?
smoky dock
SCal is still way tougher for true melee but
dusky ingot
Ya know which one, the weird weapon
grim swallow
SCal is still way tougher for true melee but
She is fun at least
Also is exoblade dash attack true melee
smoky dock
Yes
smoky dock
Is the DNA weapon considered True Melee?
No
dusky ingot
Okay, what was that weapon's name again?
smoky dock
Exoblade altfire doesn't have the damage type though
smoky dock
Okay, what was that weapon's name again?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
dusky ingot
Ah, Lucrecia
grim swallow
Exoblade altfire doesn't have the damage type though
But its still TM
Is it same for myrindael right click or does it shoot smth
smoky dock
yeah Myrindael altfire is true melee too
thin canyon
limber sage
stygian is also tmelee
smoky dock
Ah, Lucrecia
i thought it would be a deez nuts joke tbh
dusky ingot
I feel like Lucrecia could be made viable against DoG
grim swallow
Well I'll figure out what to use when I start the run
I still have some stuff to do in other games
However I have a fun challenge idea
I must kill all bosses enraged including prov
Which I will hate
Should I do it
grim swallow
Well those who are immune dont count
grim swallow
Well I mean most then
smoky dock
at least INFERNUM skeletron
dusky ingot
enraged skeletron isn't possible without egregious cheese iirc
Wouldn't it just be a guardian killer or something?
grim swallow
Those who are actually possible
dusky ingot
Ah, right
grim swallow
So yeah skeletron wont be done enraged
smoky dock
frame perfect BLJs and shit
grim swallow
I will attempt most bosses at least
dusky ingot
Enraged Inf Skeletron is like
Well theoretically you could just skip it and fight when you got amazing mobility at post-ml
smoky dock
I'm not sure even that'll save you from its obscene speed
prisma jewel
imo Dark Sun Ring over Chalice but either one's coolio
Ill swap it, sun ring did feel amazing for yharon so
dusky ingot
I'm not sure even that'll save you from its obscene speed
Isn't there the accessory from dungeon guardian/daytime skelly prime that makes you go mach3
prisma jewel
Do you just have master mode on?
Nah expert infernum but they destroying me, like idk I cant dodge their attacks properly
thin canyon
Is this with full lucky good for scal? She's pissing me off bro phase 3 twins ju...
phase 3
don't think too much
phase 3 brothers aren't that hard to dodge
dusky ingot
Phase 6 brothers are a different story doe
thin canyon
especially the ramming attack
thin canyon
Phase 6 brothers are a different story doe
i thought he's playing infer
which only have brothers on phase 3
dusky ingot
i thought he's playing infer
Oh right
prisma jewel
especially the ramming attack
Ramming attack?
thin canyon
phase 4 is she started ramping up attacks
phase 5 is bird and ramped up attack
prisma jewel
There's none of those no?
thin canyon
There's none of those no?
the attack that they tried to ram toward you from both sides
aka their starting attack
their regular attacks basically you just need to focus on the one doing the slashes
smoky dock
Isn't there the accessory from dungeon guardian/daytime skelly prime that makes ...
in souls, maybe
in base there's nothing special beyond the Bone Key
smoky dock
Ill swap it, sun ring did feel amazing for yharon so
Consider fighting SCal during a solar eclipse with Tequila Sunrise and Moonshine
prisma jewel
Consider fighting SCal during a solar eclipse with Tequila Sunrise and Moonshine
I have both of those buffs but why solar eclipse?
prisma jewel
the attack that they tried to ram toward you from both sides
Never seen it
They just shoot projectiles
No ramming to me
dusky ingot
I have both of those buffs but why solar eclipse?
Darksun ring benefits
smoky dock
DSR's bonuses are vasly better at night than during the day
prisma jewel
Darksun ring benefits
Ahh
smoky dock
However Tequila Sunrise does not function during nighttime
So a Solar Eclipse will satisfy Tequila Sunrise but will still let you salvage some of nighttime's defense
humble marlin
the sun that rises
thin canyon
They just shoot projectiles
weird
since brothers infer started ramming toward you 3 times before switching attack
prisma jewel
You're thinking of calclone
It doesn't do that with scal ver
It does like 2 or 3 line attacks then goes to distance attacks (one slashes at me one shoots balls from sky) then back to lines
prisma jewel
They don't ram at me though? They just sit off to the side and attack while going up or down
The ball shooting one sits in the sky while the slash one tracks me vertically while staying the same horizontal distance from me
thin canyon
that's the Sword and Hersey attack
they do Hyperdashes when the first appeared
it is weird when they just skip Hyperdashes phases when they appeared
prisma jewel
Anyway if they do dash I haven't been hit by it lol
https://medal.tv/games/terraria/clips/kKehnvsz83zCyez4P?invite=cr-MSxtd28sMTcyNjQ4NTEy I just suck at doing them
smoky dock
what vocalid is that in the background
fervent nimbus
which weapon would yall say is the best for big single target
prisma jewel
what vocalid is that in the background
?
smoky dock
which weapon would yall say is the best for big single target
is this for Infernum yharon?
prisma jewel
making fun of mic quality
Not my mic, it's my friends
smoky dock
making fun of your friends' mic quality
prisma jewel
and it's cause it's coming through his TV to his mic lol
fervent nimbus
is this for Infernum yharon?
were in that stage ye, but were tryin to kill provinence at night time in hollow
smoky dock
I'd bet on Hypothermia
median kiln
how am i supposed to kill infernum eidolon wyrm
grim swallow
Dont think so
half nest
ccr is perfect
thin canyon
you gonna slice the entire world in half
thin canyon
how am i supposed to kill infernum eidolon wyrm
wdym
just fight him
also
all on defense!!!
spare summit
how am i supposed to kill infernum eidolon wyrm
Spiral attack messing you up?
smoky dock
he keeps one tapping me
thin canyon
he keeps one tapping me
then you're doing something wrong
dusky ingot
how am i supposed to kill infernum eidolon wyrm
Bipolar Disorder and Schizophrenia
thin canyon
median kiln
i get hit and lose my amidias blessing
spare summit
Don’t summon it with the rod of discord
dusky ingot
he keeps one tapping me
Don't summon it with RoD
spare summit
That enrages it
median kiln
Don't summon it with RoD
im fighting a normal eidolon wyrm
dusky ingot
Go to bottom of Abyss and grab Terminus
median kiln
not the primordial one
lucid cypress
im playing masodeath and for some reason anything that makes a woosh sound like a sword or a pickaxe makes all my sound cut out for a bit
thin canyon
eidolon wyrm
dusky ingot
im fighting a normal eidolon wyrm
Ah alright lol
thin canyon
yea no
just try to get the abyss diving gears stuff
you aren't supposed to use the bubble unless you can nohit him
spare summit
If you don’t have the abyssal diving suit you lose like 150 defense or something
median kiln
just try to get the abyss diving gears stuff
like what
thin canyon
post moonlord can craft abyssal diving suit
spare summit
Abyssal Diving Gear
Diving suit
Diving gear is pre ml and doesn’t protect against the debuffs that get you instant killed by reaper sharks and eidolon wyrms
thin canyon
Diving suit
Diving gear is pre ml and doesn’t protect against the debuffs that g...
fair
but yea
just get the diving suit
spare summit
What’s a good gem tech build pre scal? If there is one
Right now I’ve got
Exoblade
Photoviscerator
The wand
Cosmic immaterializer
Supernova
thin canyon
https://www.reddit.com/r/CalamityMod/comments/13dinlj/earlygame_infernum_abyss_guide_new_obtainment/
and you want to check out this if you're on cala infer
humble marlin
"get good"
-gemtech probably
thin canyon
because infer changed the entire abyss
lucid cypress
https://medal.tv/games/terraria/clips/kKfEkgTiMq_Ix_2WP?invite=cr-MSxDVUosNzA2Nj...
can anyone explain this
spare summit
That’s maybe the weirdest bug I’ve seen in recent updates
You’d need to provide your mod list
elder nebula
yeah it's a bug what explaining is there
daring willow
how many phases does eow have on infurnum
spare summit
3
daring willow
bruhhhhh
spare summit
Also if you enable infernum style boss healthbar it shows you
daring willow
after 2 i was like oh cool i win then i see 4 fuckin worms and die
spare summit
Eow is easily one of the worst bosses in the mod it gets better
daring willow
Also if you enable infernum style boss healthbar it shows you
how to do this
daring willow
Eow is easily one of the worst bosses in the mod it gets better
eow is just annoyinh for me
elder nebula
how to do this
pause menu settings
daring willow
i cba to build an arena for it
rare jacinth
its so peam
spare summit
All you need is a platform
daring willow
im really bad pre rocket boots lmao
spare summit
Just get rocket boots then
dusky ingot
Who do you guys think wins a death battle?:
- 4 prime Mike Tysons with Brass Knuckles as equipment
vs. - A gorrila
daring willow
i havnt killed skele yet
rare jacinth
???
dusky ingot
Not Donkey Kong or anything, regular Gorilla
spare summit
Rocket boots are pre boss what are you talking about
rare jacinth
rocket boots are pre boss my mans
rare jacinth
goblin army is pre boss
dusky ingot
rocket boots are pre boss my mans
Well Terrasparks are aswell
spare summit
Yes
limber sage
yes...
daring willow
fuck it im going all out before fighting anything else
rogue gives me like 0 defence
spare summit
Terraspark isn’t worth it pre boss because the lava waders are kinda annoying to get at that point
Just lightning is fine for now
dusky ingot
Doesn't rogue have like second most defense?
spare summit
Ranger does but rogue defense isn’t bad at all
daring willow
Doesn't rogue have like second most defense?
i havnt even fully beat normal calam i just started infurnum i never played rogue
spare summit
If you’re wearing the snow ruffian set then yeah your defense will be shit
rare jacinth
Doesn't rogue have like second most defense?
eh
spare summit
Bruh
daring willow
i have that
spare summit
Play death mode first
rare jacinth
rogue often wants a good few accessories
daring willow
Play death mode first
nah
rare jacinth
which can eat up defensive slots
daring willow
i want the full experience
dusky ingot
rogue often wants a good few accessories
Summoner does aswell
spare summit
rogue often wants a good few accessories
One of them gives you a dodge
daring willow
i want the new dark sould player type learning curve
rare jacinth
and rogue base armor is around tied with rangers
rare jacinth
Summoner does aswell
we arent talking about summoner though
dusky ingot
i want the new dark sould player type learning curve
new dark souls player ain't too bad
daring willow
new dark souls player ain't too bad
new tarkov player
dusky ingot
dark souls games aren't that bad overall
Compared to most modded games
Infernum certainly has harder bosses than dark souls series
fervent nimbus
how does this work
daring willow
Infernum certainly has harder bosses than dark souls series
thats what i want
fervent nimbus
wheres the charge
spare summit
After dying to tree sentinel 30 times I steamrolled Elden ring until malenia
Everything infernum post ml is a lot harder
daring willow
id rather learn through this thaan my time in normal calam
i got to prov and got bored of mage
everything was too easy bar a few bosses
daring willow
thats what i want
spare summit
K have fun then
Maybe brush up on your vanilla knowledge first though
Infernum is a good time if you like that kind of experience
daring willow
i just havnt played t for about 2-3 years so i dont remember alot of the equip progress and rogue is a calam thing so i dont know anything at all
daring willow
K have fun then
Maybe brush up on your vanilla knowledge first though <:XD:93610...
i have like 6k hrs on vanilla i just havnt played in years
mostly on console though
the keybinds on this are pretty easy though
dusky ingot
Did you rebind the dash to a button instead of double tapping direction?
Cause that helps a ton in infernum
daring willow
i did find myself a cool ass drill bot
dusky ingot
So good to get used to it
daring willow
Did you rebind the dash to a button instead of double tapping direction?
i put it on my mouse
spare summit
Good
dusky ingot
i put it on my mouse
Good
spare summit
Bind it to q
dusky ingot
i never binded quick heal though
I have it bound to one of the mouse side buttons, but you can honestly put it wherever fits you
dusky ingot
grapple is kinda dookie
Grapple is good on scroll wheel
A lot of bosses you can dodge better if you can grapple quick
daring willow
so what is better than snow ruff that i can get pre boss?
spare summit
That works too ig
After playing with a bunch of different keybinds I found what works best for me but yea
daring willow
well ive killed eye but that doesnt change anything i dont think
spare summit
so what is better than snow ruff that i can get pre boss?
Pre boss? Nothing
Kill desert scourge though and you can get victide
dusky ingot
so what is better than snow ruff that i can get pre boss?
Did you get Magiluminescence as an accessory?
It's goog
spare summit
If you’re not familiar with calamity you can try installing boss checklist to see what to do next
dusky ingot
Not new armor, but very goog accessory that's easy to miss
daring willow
Did you get Magiluminescence as an accessory?
craft?
daring willow
If you’re not familiar with calamity you can try installing boss checklist to se...
i have it
spare summit
You can find them in the planetoids in the sky
daring willow
time to go space diving
dusky ingot
You could probably find them easily on planetoids
And can also get a lot of demonite/crimtane on the island that's close to one of the edges of the world
spare summit
And can also get a lot of demonite/crimtane on the island that's close to one of...
It’s always on the right side
daring willow
i have already found 4 labs lol
dusky ingot
It’s always on the right side
? I've had it on the left in my current world I think
Maybe it's just on dungeon side?
dusky ingot
Then I dunno
daring willow
ok i have the malg
calm dagger
Do mana potions have a long cooldown because mine are like only a couple seconds
dusky ingot
Do mana potions have a long cooldown because mine are like only a couple seconds
No cooldown
calm dagger
Okay
daring willow
whats best for rogue menecing and flawless or warding flawless
smoky dock
Do mana potions have a long cooldown because mine are like only a couple seconds
They have no cooldown whatsoevre
dusky ingot
whats best for rogue menecing and flawless or warding flawless
Depends what rogue setup you running
smoky dock
Mana Sickness instead is a multiplicitive reduction to your magic damage
smoky dock
whats best for rogue menecing and flawless or warding flawless
warding
menacing on spam rouge is OK
menacing on stealth rogue is not
undone oak
What r the name of mod that return fabsols stuff back? I specifically want fabstaff
elder nebula
sylvestaff better
undone oak
sylvestaff better
Idc
smoky dock
What r the name of mod that return fabsols stuff back? I specifically want fabst...
iirc it's like... Cirrus' Return?
elder nebula
trans rights
limber sage
no more diddling minors or transphobia
daring willow
Depends what rogue setup you running
i think i wanna run stealth crits i think that would be more fun than spaammy stuff
undone oak
iirc it's like... Cirrus' Return?
It only has cirrus as npc and mount, plus all drinks transfered to her shop
smoky dock
Ah, yeah in that case I'm not sure
undone oak
no more diddling minors or transphobia
Yap yap yap
smoky dock
Maybe you can generate your own patch which uses old assets
undone oak
I have my own vision on this situation
elder nebula
Yap yap yap
the fuck
smoky dock
Lets not keep talking about this topic, yea?
undone oak
Maybe you can generate your own patch which uses old assets
Ig ill do that
daring willow
last community i would expect to hear that from lmao
fervent nimbus
HOW DOES THIS WORK
smoky dock
HOW DOES THIS WORK
which part of it
undone oak
Lets not keep talking about this topic, yea?
Sure, not like either side is complaint to change their opinions, all that will be just a pointless slop
smoky dock
all those effects are active at once
spare summit
whats best for rogue menecing and flawless or warding flawless
Warding
fading dove
HOW DOES THIS WORK
post prov and still using celestial tracers </3
dusky ingot
post prov and still using celestial tracers </3
post dog I think
fading dove
even worse
force of life AND flight mastery soul
both are better than the yharon wings
smoky dock
even the chicken wings?
fading dove
yharon wings have 6 seconds of flight, force of life has 16 2/3 and refreshes wing time when you collect one of the flowers it spawns in flight
measured horizontal speed of 117mph while yharon wings are 77mph
force of life also has a hover
daring willow
LMAO INFURNUM BLOOD MOONS ARE INSANE
spare summit
That’s just death mode
daring willow
my screen is full of stuff
dusky ingot
LMAO INFURNUM BLOOD MOONS ARE INSANE
Calamity blood moons in general
smoky dock
Infernum doesn't change blood moons
You're just experiencing a regular death mode bloon
daring willow
free money farm
spare summit
People use alchnpc when blood orb potion crafting exists and you can half a stack of blorbs in a night
smoky dock
half a stack seems excessive
humble marlin
people use alch npc when primas potions exists
rare jacinth
god i havent seen anyone bring prisma's up in a long time
smoky dock
maybe you can get tangibly higher than 3,000 by shimmering the money troughs
spare summit
And crafting the bloody tears
rare jacinth
do the souls champions enrage?
because. i do not want to mkae like 7 arenas
or osmething
rare jacinth
sadge
limber sage
I use alch npc lite for the architect mostly
sells hand of creation stuff after WoF, tinkerer can also be helpful at times
rare jacinth
I use alch npc lite for the architect mostly
whenever people say that i get a bit worried because literally* everyone who uses him just does it for some dumb cheese
these Non Builders...
limber sage
you mean money cheese? cuz that's also a vanilla thing
cheesing money with exploits is just, normal terraria stuff
crystal duping, monolith duping, etc
rare jacinth
i dont think peopole do those nearly as much as the architect
humble marlin
"Its not a bug its a feature"
rare jacinth
but also i think i've seen some people shimmer his stuff for "tierskips"
daring willow
these Non Builders...
i use it solely for building
nimble wing
LMAO INFURNUM BLOOD MOONS ARE INSANE
calamity could really afford to say more of what it does
nimble wing
correct
humble marlin
first blood moon always hits hard
humble marlin
yeah its way too much
fiery mango
Like
*That* high?
Are you?
humble marlin
its insanely funny tho
prisma jewel
Yeah I fucking LOVE steam bro
Friends list popped up TWICE mid run and got me killed
humble marlin
crazy
spare summit
What are you testing it on
spare summit
With the little gruesome eminence thingy that shoots the balls?
prisma jewel
Like how the hell am I meant to dodge half these attacks, they come at you too fast to go through them since the gap is so small, if you back up on yourself to go through the gap when it's wider there're already masses more of those attacks right behind it and if you go up and pogo down or so and so they're too close together to fit through the gaps
prisma jewel
With the little gruesome eminence thingy that shoots the balls?
What??
spare summit
The purple thing
spare summit
Have you not noticed the purple cloud following you around)
prisma jewel
Have you not noticed the purple cloud following you around)
There is none?
Not to my knowledge
I can't see anything
spare summit
Maybe it’s phase 3
Idk if sepulcher counts as phase 1
Does sepulcher even count as a phase?
elder nebula
fly up 
spare summit
Either get to the edge of the arena or stay on top of her
prisma jewel
MYH GAME CRASHED AS I BEAT SCAL
ARE YOU FUCKING JOKING
I LITERALLY BEAT IT AND MY GAME CRASHED
humble marlin
rip
elder nebula
cheat sheet time
fading dove
Bro the exoblade sucks
true, illusioner's reverie is way tastier
rare jacinth
it feels like 70% of the champions love to despawn
smoky dock
she fires big ass fireballs
They do not have a hitbox and cannot hurt you until they explode
snow nymph
They do not have a hitbox and cannot hurt you until they explode
You just need to go to 1 side of the arena and then slowly fly to the other
Side
Because providence spawns them near the player
prisma jewel
Anyone know why my terraria keeps crashing now?
It keeps crashing every 30 seconds after opening it
elder nebula
modlist???
prisma jewel
modlist???
The same as I had an hour ago with no issues for the past 3 weeks
As soon as this steam update came out 40m ago I've been crashing and stuttering nonstop
full on freezing sometimes
rare jacinth
it feels like 70% of the champions love to despawn
how am i supposed to deal with this </3
theres literally nothing i can do about it
oh does it leave outside the desert thats stupid
no other champion has
why is THIS the one that can leave
prisma jewel
It just crashed again
As I beat it
God run and all
What the fuck is wrong with this game
Can someone nuke scal and see if it crashes for them please?
Same time and all
Like on the 3rd explosion at the very end of the fight (where she turns into a fireball or whatever and teleports)
And it's just crashed while I was turning a few mods off to check for issues
white dagger
check your crash logs I guess?
prisma jewel
check your crash logs I guess?
I tried, most recent one that was there was 3 days ago so idk wth it's doing
I might nuke the boss with a cheatsheet on to see if it happens again
Okay and it just didn't happen nice
So idk now, am I meant to just try again normally and just hope??? Or waste a successful attempt for the third time
dusky ingot
Ah, I remember the great days when infernum scal was a joke of a boss
dusky ingot
So idk now, am I meant to just try again normally and just hope??? Or waste a su...
Waste a successful attempt again or no balls
prisma jewel
Yeah ts is weird, my friend just crashed mid fight too
Wtf is this
Did the new steam update just break the game or something
Anyone know how to get to my character and world backups?
I wanna save new backups of them and try redownloading tmodloader to see if this helps at all
night fractal
the folder they're in is actually not removed by a tmodloader uninstallation
But
Have you tried verifying file integrity for tModLoader first?
night fractal
the folder they're in is actually not removed by a tmodloader uninstallation
(Documents > My Games > Terraria > tModLoader)
prisma jewel
Have you tried verifying file integrity for tModLoader first?
No I'll do that now
lavish salmon
Hello fellow gamers anybody know a good RANGER wepon for moon lord Infernam ?
prisma jewel
Thanks for reminding me that's an option, didn't know it could help with terraria specifically used to do it for removing geometry dash texture packs loool
dusky ingot
Hello fellow gamers anybody know a good RANGER wepon for moon lord Infernam ?
Good and ranger don't go in the same sentence
Except death sentence
lavish salmon
😅
prisma jewel
I just want this infernum playthrough over with so I can do masochist souls mod but nope 3 kills on scal all crashed LOL
dusky ingot
Hello fellow gamers anybody know a good RANGER wepon for moon lord Infernam ?
But I think the weapon that dropped from the Great Sand Shark was good and cool
elder nebula
yeah glassmaker is absolute peak
elder nebula
Good and ranger don't go in the same sentence
also fuck you mage is so much worse
dusky ingot
also fuck you mage is so much worse
I am currently doing mage
night fractal
also fuck you mage is so much worse
not for long
dusky ingot
And can confirm isn't as good as used to
night fractal
Shifting sands rework save us
(it literally just homes in now and ignores tiles and doesn't have the weird recasting limit)
elder nebula
fire
dusky ingot
But that's if we compare it to the great days when Purge Guzzler did like 20k dps
Which is a providence weapon
And was viable against Yharon
And currently Mage is probably best class for Astrum Deus
night fractal
you say that like Glorious End is not viable on Moon Lord
dusky ingot
Since you can easily do it like pre-golem with Art Attack
night fractal
especially on infernum glorious end is cracked
(haha infernum murdering defense damage moment)
dusky ingot
especially on infernum glorious end is cracked
Was Glorious end the starboard from Temu?
night fractal
yeah the Kirby star rod
dusky ingot
I like it solely because it can damage NPCs
night fractal
it's currently in top 3 for how strong weapons are
dusky ingot
Not in any meaningful way, but funny way
night fractal
like just in terms of damage, accounting for when it's obtained
genuinely a very strong option or at minimum viable for all of hardmode
night fractal
top 3 is a competition between Hellborn, Slick Cane, and Glorious End
the fact that 2 of the top 3 are slick cane and gend is so funny
dusky ingot
What is Hellborn?
elder nebula
i wouldn't count slick cane bc doesn't it fall off really fast
night fractal
i wouldn't count slick cane bc doesn't it fall off really fast
no it's literally viable for all of hardmode
dusky ingot
Legendary drops are still a thing?
elder nebula
no it's literally viable for all of hardmode
wait seriously
night fractal
yes lemme find the kill times
elder nebula
Legendary drops are still a thing?
sort of
dusky ingot
I thought it was discarded in like 1.3 days
I remember the golem sword was cool back then
Back when tremor was still a mod
night fractal
elder nebula
they're in the regular drop pool but only 10% chance
elder nebula
what the fuck
dusky ingot
Oh okay
night fractal
obviously this testing wasn't super thorough
it missed a lot of bosses
but yeah it's very strong
elder nebula
2 min folly
dusky ingot
obviously this testing wasn't super thorough
Didn't test it on Yharon 💀
elder nebula
post skeletron weapon
dusky ingot
Not even on scal
gloomy wedge
top 3 is a competition between Hellborn, Slick Cane, and Glorious End
why hellborn
i mean i love it and its obviously extremely good
night fractal
gloomy wedge
but why is it top 3 material
prisma jewel
Terraria crashed again bruh 😭
heavy zinc
I love hellborn
heavy zinc
Can we make it yharon viable
gloomy wedge
WAIT IT APPLIES FLASKS
prisma jewel
I'm gonna have to reinstall tmodloader bruhhh
gloomy wedge
WHAT
dusky ingot
Someone did Polter with that?
night fractal
Ichor Flask helps hellborn a good amount
elder nebula
only vanilla flasks for some reason
dusky ingot
Insane
fading dove
accidentally got an even better time
night fractal
Someone did Polter with that?
This was also in testing gear, so a balanced / average on tier loadout
and 3:00 is still on time for polter
fading dove
THEYRE RANKED WITHIN TIERS????????
night fractal
His intended testing time is 3:00
night fractal
THEYRE RANKED WITHIN TIERS????????
Not always
it's pretty loose
but yes loosely
top/mid/bottom of the tier is accurate
gloomy wedge
speaking of broken weapons, necrosteocytes is maybe the funniest shit ever allowed to be in the game
night fractal
This was just re-ordered this week
(this doesn't show vanilla weapons)
(if you count vanilla weapons hellborn is not top 1)
gloomy wedge
im surprised that turbulance is that high tbh
fading dove
i didnt even see superradiant
gloomy wedge
like its def a very good weapon but
fading dove
thats definitely from within the past couple days
dusky ingot
Longest I've ever laster
night fractal
yea
gloomy wedge
from what i used of it, didnt feel significantly better than something like tracking disk
dusky ingot
1:43
gloomy wedge
oh that is weird
dusky ingot
Longest I'd managed to survive against infernum dog
night fractal
But also
fading dove
superradiant being mid SS is kinda surprising but ig that is against basecal and not inf's enclosed spaces
night fractal
from what i used of it, didnt feel significantly better than something like trac...
You haven't seen rogue at those tiers lol
dusky ingot
(if you count vanilla weapons hellborn is not top 1)
If you include vanilla weapons zenith is top1 denifitely
night fractal
lemme find a screenshot
night fractal
If you include vanilla weapons zenith is top1 denifitely
No
It's Kaleidoscope or Morning Star or Firecracker
Those are the 3 contenders
elder nebula
This was just re-ordered this week
where subshocker
fading dove
firecracker's currently mid S in the tierlist
dusky ingot
What tier is the Hellwing staff in?
gloomy wedge
3 summoner weapons I LOVE CALAMITY
dusky ingot
Cause it's very good for a pre-boss weapon
gloomy wedge
What tier is the Hellwing staff in?
C
fading dove
high C
dusky ingot
Damn
gloomy wedge
it's tiered to post evil 1 like every hell weapon
fading dove
^
weapons are rated for their intended tier
like snapthorn is post eoc
(its still big)
night fractal
from what i used of it, didnt feel significantly better than something like trac...
This may be why it doesn't seem THAT broken in comparison
dusky ingot
it's tiered to post evil 1 like every hell weapon
No mage weapon in pre-hm matches its dps honestly, even though it can't aim upwards
From what I'd noticed
elder nebula
This may be why it doesn't seem THAT broken in comparison
e 💀
fading dove
the lack of aiming upward is kinda big
gloomy wedge
This may be why it doesn't seem THAT broken in comparison
yeah im aware that rogue from hive mind to wof is like, the best run a class has ever had
but im just surprised its that significantly above tracking disk
fading dove
considering bosses tend to stay above you
dusky ingot
considering bosses tend to stay above you
King slime and slime god doe sometimes can be below you
night fractal
I think it's funny that the entirety of the true top 3 weapons in cal is vanilla whips
it's probably ordered
Firecracker
Morning Star
Kaleidoscope
gloomy wedge
anyone else love good game design
elder nebula
doze why isn't subshocker in ss
night fractal
but Firecracker might be in third
night fractal
doze why isn't subshocker in ss
The risk of use
fading dove
firecracker's currently listed mid S but yeah i believe it
night fractal
firecracker's currently listed mid S but yeah i believe it
yeah that's just not right
dense comet
sadly plague keeper is going away, I really enjoyed it
elder nebula
The risk of use
and hellborn doesn't have that????
gloomy wedge
i'm surprised dark lance and sunfury are that high up tbh
night fractal
and hellborn doesn't have that????
hellborn has WAY better kill times
Sub shocker falls off past plant
Hellborn is on time on POLTER
fading dove
firecracker gets outclassed by that one unofficial whips stardust one so its Z trust
gloomy wedge
ive heard about that one, what does it do again
dusky ingot
Does the tierlist include some infernum weapons or not?
night fractal
no it's all basecal
gloomy wedge
Does the tierlist include some infernum weapons or not?
nope
fading dove
no
gloomy wedge
its tiered with expert rev as the base iirc
night fractal
And all tests are expert rev
fading dove
its based on expert rev
dusky ingot
Okie
gloomy wedge
three at once damn
night fractal
firecracker needs a full test at some point
gloomy wedge
halibut cannon is dogshit unless you abuse bloodflare bullets on specifically thanatos in which case its SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
night fractal
But I'm too lazy
dusky ingot
Cause I wonder how it'd treat some of infernum weapons, cause theoretically things like Palladium repeater are pre-boss in infernum
And are pretty good for that stage
night fractal
halibut cannon is dogshit unless you abuse bloodflare bullets on specifically th...
Technically it's ranked as an endgame weapon iirc
grim falcon
though illusioner's reverie i bet would be S or SS
low SS
dusky ingot
halibut cannon is dogshit unless you abuse bloodflare bullets on specifically th...
Halibut cannon was good in its glory days when it dropped from normal enemies in abyss
grim falcon
does really well against exo twins & scal and her brothers
night fractal
Cause I wonder how it'd treat some of infernum weapons, cause theoretically thin...
The list is based off intended obtainment
gloomy wedge
Technically it's ranked as an endgame weapon iirc
im saying if inf was considered
dusky ingot
The list is based off intended obtainment
Oh yeah you mentioned that
gloomy wedge
i do not like halibut cannon at all in inf
lag generator supreme and does like no damage
night fractal
if it was ranked based on possible obtainment then Metal Monstrosity would be top 1 probably
fading dove
it benefits a lot more from bloodfire bullets due to the halved base damage
dusky ingot
lag generator supreme and does like no damage
That's just ranger in a nutshell
night fractal
since Metal Monstrosity is pre boss with suicide
gloomy wedge
right, metal monstrosity is technically pre boss if you do the eoc trick
fading dove
just use return pots
night fractal
that would take forever
I'd rather suicide sticky dynamite
also this tier list doesn't count some more obscure strategies
dusky ingot
Well handgun is also surprisingly good for pre-boss
night fractal
Like how Psycho Knife would be SS tier if you count it on providence with solar ram
dusky ingot
I've heard of some people attempting to kill cultist with it on infernum
gloomy wedge
Well handgun is also surprisingly good for pre-boss
i mean i dont think its really surprisingly good
its just good
fading dove
psycho knife is SS for inf dog trust
night fractal
psycho knife is SS for inf dog trust
honestly I'd believe it
night fractal
Psycho + High Ruler will be meta in 2.1 for weaponless
dusky ingot
like its a strong ass gun
Yea I guess, but it's just such a boring weapon I forget it even exists
night fractal
get ready
fading dove
you can clear p1 before a single laser shows up
gloomy wedge
what does psycho do again
fading dove
stealth
gloomy wedge
i just know it as That True Melee Weapon
night fractal
+300% melee dmg in stealth
elder nebula
what does psycho do again
shroomite stealth
night fractal
and some crit chance too
fading dove
but abhorrent movespeed
and it fucks up dashes if you fly up or fall down during them
gloomy wedge
so its unlimited cheese works, got it
night fractal
all I know is that with my psycho loadout for providence I could max out at 7 hits per dash
Which is insane
fading dove
you can't infinite dash with it, so it effective increases the delay between dashes
prov's a giant hitbox that doesn't instakill so she's safe
gloomy wedge
bullying desert scourge with dragoon drizzlefish feels rude at this point
like wow you delayed 6 hours to pull this shit on me
night fractal
you can't infinite dash with it, so it effective increases the delay between das...
does infernum change dash lasting criteria or something
night fractal
because it definitely didn't increase dash delay for me that I noticed, at least
dusky ingot
bullying desert scourge with dragoon drizzlefish feels rude at this point
Well if you can do it, why the heck not?
I always love to overprepare for the first boss
humble marlin
real
fading dove
i can make banana rhyme with orange
dusky ingot
Any recommended buffs/alcohols for a mage battling Infernum DoG?
dusky ingot
And how I get it?
fading dove
dusky ingot
magic power and regen
Yea I got the 3 basic ones and aureus cells, aswell as endurance
fading dove
astral jelly/cola gives a bunch of buffs
astra jelly, magic power, and magic regen
however, with infinite buffs, it only gives the primary buff, which is astra jelly
its just some more magic stats
dusky ingot
astra jelly, magic power, and magic regen
So I can just gulp these down instead of Aureus Cells and just get one more magic buff?
fading dove
yeah
dusky ingot
O, nice
fading dove
the only problem is that theyre a bit harder to get en masse
geldon drops a bunch but
thats geldon
its kinda dangerous to farm a colossal amount of metanova slimes underground too
dusky ingot
Well fighting geldon honestly seems like less of a hassle than going to astral biome to fight aureus
fading dove
since their rocks are actually geldon's rocks and so aren't affected by banners
so theyre gonna be dealing a pretty hefty chunk of health
dusky ingot
Oh wait I have to go to Astral Biome to fight Geldon? I forgor about that
uncut ocean
im kind of stuck rn, im currently post-sentinels and finding it basically impossible to beat polterghast. im trying to beat DoG, and while i feel like i can do it, it's gonna take a while. but idk if that's worth it, because im not sure if im just missing something when it comes to the polterghast fight
dusky ingot
im kind of stuck rn, im currently post-sentinels and finding it basically imposs...
Infernum polter or some other difficulty?
uncut ocean
yep infernum
fading dove
lemme get a vid
nvm its because i wasn't cancelling 😭
dusky ingot
yep infernum
From what I remember just make a big arena and avoid the tentacles, and fly around the place like a magicman
uncut ocean
From what I remember just make a big arena and avoid the tentacles, and fly arou...
ig it's time to bust out the drill containment unit
btw does this advice apply to true melee?
im finding his walls of homing projectiles a pain when trying to hit him
dusky ingot
Oh for true melee good luck
You honestly might have better luck against DoG, but not sure exactly how bad polter is on true melee
humble marlin
(17 minute fight btw)
uncut ocean
(17 minute fight btw)
yeah no i'll just grind dog
i already suffered enough with that dickhead cryogen
uncut ocean
cryogen or polter
humble marlin
polter
uncut ocean
oh fucking hell
humble marlin
cryogen can be done under 3m with the right strats
uncut ocean
oh yeah i know brimlance right
humble marlin
fire debuff stack with hook of dissonance yeah
uncut ocean
i see
humble marlin
fading dove
ig it's time to bust out the drill containment unit
btw does this advice apply ...
for tmelee, polter has 1 phase
humble marlin
strat in question
dusky ingot
for tmelee, polter has 1 phase
The phase in question: Death
prisma jewel
YE$SSSSS
I beat scal without it crashing
FINALLY
4th time killing her
Would've been attempt 59, is attempt 71 😭
Holy cow I insta save and exited to make sure and as soon as it finished saving it crashed
I hope it actually went through
dusky ingot
Does infernum DoG have a phase 3?
spare summit
Yes
uncut ocean
for tmelee, polter has 1 phase
the problem is getting past that first phase
fading dove
exactly
uncut ocean
i swear i spend like 5 minutes dodging the most boring attacks ever and he's at like 95% hp
dusky ingot
like how p2 is at 89.25%
p2 is at 80% doe
dusky ingot
Ye
That means I still got another phase to learn
400 attempts in, lowest I got it to was 30%
fading dove
its pretty much just running in one direction and dashing until he exits the antimatter dashes
spare summit
Yeah
Scal gem tech
What’s the strat
dusky ingot
Is Prismatic armor better than bloodflare for DoG?
prisma jewel
Damn bro goozma is SO laggy
Got him to 20% on my first attempt, not that hard tbh just techy
fading dove
Is Prismatic armor better than bloodflare for DoG?
it'd be meta if omega blue wasn't real
patent girder
im prob gonna use prismatic for my infernum dog nohit
omega blue is kinda too good and i like switching it up
dusky ingot
it'd be meta if omega blue wasn't real
Grinding for Omega Blue is so annoying doe
fading dove
omega blue is kinda too good and i like switching it up
try nebula
fading dove
trust me nebula is actually tasty on inf dog
patent girder
ill keep it in mind ^_^
fading dove
also its more that omega blue is a slight upgrade over prismatic rather than it blowing everything out of the water
because had it not been real , mage would easily be the best class for dog no contest
patent girder
mage peam
nimble wing
Got him to 20% on my first attempt, not that hard tbh just techy
goozma deals oddly low damage and it just will not land an attack if you get lucky enough
patent girder
goozma overhaul when ,,,
fading dove
soon actually
nimble wing
oh yeah how's that progressing
patent girder
oh fucj yeah
fading dove
no idea
patent girder
soon actually
im gonna take your word for it
fading dove
all i know is that the scythe is losing a significant amount of damage
spare summit
Playing addons like hotog and wotg after infernum feels like going back to classic difficulty after gfb
fading dove
like its almost halved
nimble wing
i got to test an early version of a goozma do-over and it was actually fun! the parts that were changed, anyway
fading dove
hell yeah
nimble wing
that was a while back
prisma jewel
Might just remove the goozma mod for now since it's sorta a boring fight feels pointless
I wanna move onto my masochist playthrough now that I beat scal
patent girder
i <3 goozma so in excited for this
nimble wing
no shade to yuh and friends but i'm not sure they could, say, completely replace an attack with a fitting new one
patent girder
just hope it actually releases
nimble wing
its existing attacks mostly set Very High aesthetic and polish standards
that's just me not knowing what they were or are capable of, so my worries might amount to nothing
patent girder
anywhereelse i can keep updated on it or is YuH server the best there is
nimble wing
cult of hypnos, unfortunately
fading dove
when you get to goozma teasers but its hypnoscord
patent girder
isnt hypnoscord private
humble marlin
reminder that relic of ruin is cool as fuck
nimble wing
either private or kinda halfway private
dusky ingot
Okay yeah Omega blue is pretty good for this fight
nimble wing
either private or kinda halfway private
more importantly, i can attest that it sucks
humble marlin
some guy that i know cannot stop talking about ogscules
humble marlin
not you too
dusky ingot
Who cares that the boss can kill me in a minute if I can kill it in two?
Less go, attempt 421, down to 24%
smoky dock
Who cares that the boss can kill me in a minute if I can kill it in two?
is that saying like
"i should neglect defense and glassmaxx"
or is it saying "i should invest more in defense"
dusky ingot
How I get Sunken Sailfish for soaring potions?
dusky ingot
"i should neglect defense and glassmaxx"
This statement
smoky dock
don't 👍
dusky ingot
If I get lucky and survifve the 2 minutes needed to kill it, I win
smoky dock
How I get Sunken Sailfish for soaring potions?
Fishing in the Sunken Sea
smoky dock
They're bad?
Don't neglect defenses
dusky ingot
Ah but it's for DoG
smoky dock
I know.
dusky ingot
Overall I do appreciate defense
smoky dock
At least use Affliction and one of either Amalgamated Brain, Abyssal Mirror, or Cherished Sealocket
They all will set your survivability to a healthy enough point to where you can afford to make several mistakes
All without much opportunity cost
dusky ingot
At *least* use Affliction and one of either Amalgamated Brain, Abyssal Mirror, o...
I use affliction, amalgamated brain and cherished sealocket already
Just overall glassmax regarding armor and reforges currently
smoky dock
Don't use both a dodge and Sealocket since they don't overall play nice together
dusky ingot
Really? What if I just swap it in once my dodge is used up once?
Cause I swap sealocket out when it's on cooldown anyways
fading dove
that works
spare summit
I used both because the dodge lets you keep adrenaline
On my winning attempt I’m pretty sure I blasted it from 80% health to 15% with rage adrenaline and madness
smoky dock
Accessory swaps mid-fight seem like more effort than it's worth imo
dusky ingot
Accessory swaps mid-fight seem like more effort than it's worth imo
Well the sealocket will basically allow me to survive 3 hits
So p good
smoky dock
yeah I know
spare summit
Also affliction is good for infernum dog?
dusky ingot
Also affliction is good for infernum dog?
No clue, but seems like nice stats
I certainly prefer it over community, though both are jack-of-all-trades
spare summit
I think community somehow always ends up getting outclassed
No matter the stage of progression
dusky ingot
I think community somehow always ends up getting outclassed
Well Shattered Community is p good
spare summit
Yeah but that’s different
dusky ingot
How's it different?
spare summit
It’s a completely different accessory
It’s like saying metastasis and staff if the necjworm are the same
fading dove
from 1.35x to 1.6x
and you passively generate rage
and you generate rage when you take damage
dusky ingot
It’s a completely different accessory
It’s like saying metastasis and staff if t...
Okay yeah fair
fading dove
and when rage is active, the cap is raised to 200
dusky ingot
Also, what does the community count as a stat increase
For example, if I beat providence, do I also have to kill the previous bosses to get the boost?
spare summit
It just depends on how many you’ve killed regardless of progression
dusky ingot
So you have to kill all of them for max strength?
spare summit
Yeah
dusky ingot
Oh god
spare summit
You don’t kill all bosses?
Minibosses don’t count btw
Neither do event bosses
I’m not sure if Betsy does
dusky ingot
You don’t kill all bosses?
I usually leave out stuff like the bosses from other world evils, Deerclops
calm dagger
am I good for anahita and the leviathan?
spare summit
I’m gonna assume they’re bat wings and say you’re fine
dusky ingot
They are not bat wings
spare summit
Blizzard staff is good for Levi, get something homing like bat scepter or spectre staff for anahita
spare summit
They are not bat wings
Texture pack maybe
Or some dev wings I have no idea about
They’re not demon wings either
fading dove
drage needs another nerf
fading dove
They’re not demon wings either
its one of the tmod dev wings iirc
lucid patrol
what loadout should i use for true melee fargos + calamity (pre golem)
i can get eternity drops
actually it doesnt even need to be true melee tbh
daring willow
What armor is best for rogue pre skeleton on infurnum
lucid patrol
i get 1-2k less dps with full menacing than my teammates with full warding
dusky ingot
Go full warding, defense goog
spare summit
What armor is best for rogue pre skeleton on infurnum
Aerialite
patent girder
what boss and what are you doing?
patent girder
good luck :D
calm dagger
They’re not demon wings either
mb i went afk their dev wings but theyre better than bat
agile agate
Attempt #444, 17.23%
Are you doing just a regular or a challenge run?
agile agate
I was playing as Melee and it took me 88 attempts, but that was basically me doing Rampage so I had to use Phosphorescent Gauntlet as a replacement. As well as Death's Ascension whenever he stops chasing me
It probably was easier doing that since I can click better than double-tap A and D
Because sometimes it doesn't register as a double-tap, for some reason
dusky ingot
This boss feels like it'd be heaven for a TM player
agile agate
Phosphorescent Gauntlet is a True Melee weapon
dusky ingot
But I usually abstain from switching classes mid-playthru as a kind of rule
dusky ingot
Phosphorescent Gauntlet is a True Melee weapon
Yeah, does sound like that
fading dove
phos gauntlet is extra tasty on yharon
median kiln
i kinda miss dying to infernum providence
dusky ingot
Damn, Attempt #462 only 11.98% HP left
I managed to get thru the part where he just flies out of portals constantly, but didn't expect him to come out normally after that
little steppe
This boss feels like it'd be heaven for a TM player
lion's heart is peam
calm dagger
why is the leviathan so ass
spare summit
This boss feels like it'd be heaven for a TM player
No it’s hell for anyone
Tmelee has the best time besides ranger with Corinth prime though
spare summit
why is the leviathan so ass
What’s getting you?
little steppe
Tmelee has the best time besides ranger with Corinth prime though
debatable imo
daring willow
Has anyone done a full no hit infurnum boss rush?
dusky ingot
Attempt #477 - 10.75% HP left
spare summit
Has anyone done a full no hit infurnum boss rush?
Brutus on YouTube and a few others
Some are old though and bosses got reworked
daring willow
I wonder how hard it would be to do a no death infurnum run
I doubt that's been d9ne right?
median kiln
any tips for making a world arena for infernum devourer
dusky ingot
I wonder how hard it would be to do a no death infurnum run
I think I saw some dude on youtube do it first try
If you mean hardcore
night fractal
yeah
daring willow
If you mean hardcore
Like delete the world if you die
night fractal
yardis did it first try
daring willow
Well he did nohit every boss in the past I think
But every boss in infurnum in 1 run no deaths is insane
I'm gonna farm tf out of infurnum until I can do it 😤
dusky ingot
But every boss in infurnum in 1 run no deaths is insane
Infernum has pretty predictable boss AI tbh
spare summit
And here I am dying to eow
He died 25 times to king slime on his first infernum playthrough
It takes time lol
dusky ingot
Honestly King Slime is quite hard on infernum
Desert Scourge is infinitely easier imo
little steppe
I'm gonna farm tf out of infurnum until I can do it 😤
you could do a wofless low%
idk if anyone did it on infernum
quiet venture
what do you guys think is the funnest class between ranger summoner and mage
little steppe
or evil and fucked up lunatic run
quiet venture
for infernum
spare summit
Chapstixx has done lunatic run
spare summit
I recommend not sticking to a single class
quiet venture
i could do that
tranquil yarrow
for infernum
Summoner and Ranger though that's only because those are the only 2 classes I've played on this difficulty so far.
quiet venture
yeah i've played master death with melee
little steppe
Chapstixx has done lunatic run
false
tranquil yarrow
Definitely wanna redo Mage for Infernum cuz that was pretty fun too.
quiet venture
so i want to try smth diff
little steppe
they only did lunatic
little steppe
as far as I'm aware
jovial flame
Does yharon enrage outside of the jungle in infernum?
spare summit
Oh you mean low%