calamity-addon-talk

[fading dove]

if you can shimmer the destroyer summon

[leaden gate]

the wrath of gods blood moon ambience is fucking cool tho... sooo

maybe I wanna fish

[fading dove]

mutant mod also has the blood sushi platter

[clear quail]

i would say it's skeletron

[fading dove]

which is noticably more expensive

[wispy scaffold]

I don't like that mod's summons because they're consumable even if you have calamity

[vapid blaze]

oh ty

[gloomy wedge]

Skeletron you can afford to play pretty wacky against him

[fading dove]

i like it because theyre consumable

[dusky ingot]

Fair

[clear quail]

yeah but many skeletron attack require extremely tight movement

[fading dove]

refunding until downed is a good way to handle consumable summons

[gloomy wedge]

If you move 2 pixels to the right cryogen goes BUHADABUBFHAHUDBAHUB and shakes wildly for 20 seconds

[clear quail]

yeah that's

fucking relatable

[wispy scaffold]

Is it? In infernum, I found cryogen significantly easier than skeletron.

In fact, I defeated cryogen first try.

[clear quail]

but cryogen dont punish you that much

[gloomy wedge]

Cryogen isn’t hard imo

He just does punish unnecessary movement

[clear quail]

(by moving unnecessary, you help cryogen dodge your attack)

[gloomy wedge]

Skeletron also isn’t hard but you guys aren’t ready for that one

[fading dove]

TRUUUUUEEEEEEEEEE

its an exam with a single question

[wispy scaffold]

I feel this so much. I'm starting to get the feeling that stealth rogue is genuinely bad in infernum.

[vapid blaze]

yeah, i couldnt stand still for a long period so he was just moving constantly

he moved so fast my homing weapon could hardly hit him

[clear quail]

[vapid blaze]

(Bee Gun)

[prisma jewel]

Gem tech armour or auric tesla?

[fading dove]

depends

auric tesla for survivability and monoclassing

[gloomy wedge]

Whether stealth or spam rogue is better depends entirely on the weapon and stage of progression

[dim aurora]

Bee gun for cryogen?

[fading dove]

gem tech for if you really wanna kill what's in front of you

[gloomy wedge]

By the time you reach post ml I think they’re pretty evenly matched with stealth being slightly better overall

[prisma jewel]

Alright, I don't really use the bonuses from tesla so might swap if Scal is hard

[gloomy wedge]

For early hm you def value spam more thanks to broken ass weapons like kelvin catalyst and cursed dagger

[fading dove]

there's two main bonuses from gem tech

[clear quail]

(stealth) rogue is, to me, the only class help me progression skip straight from post 3 mechs to deus

[dim aurora]

Should you fight scal or exos first in infernum

[clear quail]

[wispy scaffold]

I feel like there's two difficulties we have to consider here: how hard it is to learn, and how hard it is for an experienced player. Because infernum skeletron is really hard to learn, but isn't that bad after you've learned it.

[fading dove]

removal of the summon damage penalty

and spending hits for massive burst damage

[vapid blaze]

it was either bee gun, crystal storm, or i think meteor staff

[gloomy wedge]

Exos

[fading dove]

each one of those gems can do like 500k with rippers

[dim aurora]

I lowkey hate vanilla deus and ceaseless so goddamn much

[prisma jewel]

Damn alright

[ashen pier]

idk but fighting exos first is more aura

[fading dove]

"really hard to learn" and its just some simple micrododging

[dim aurora]

Ill try wotm

[fading dove]

eternity exos 🤤

[gloomy wedge]

Honestly I’d say Skeletron isn’t hard for either one, but admittedly I have also played a good amount of emode so I’m more used to that style of fight

[clear quail]

i love you cursed dagger, 1.2k dps (small fraction) not counting debuff is insane for deus

[fading dove]

maso time <3

[wispy scaffold]

In base calamity, I agree. Not in infernum. Because in infernum, the bosses are very, very good at dodging your attacks. Half the time, it feels like most of the difficulty in a bossfight is literally just dealing even a single point of damage to it.

[vapid blaze]

skeletron wasnt bad, took me 36~ attempts for someone who didnt beat cala death

[ashen pier]

i believe in this

[dim aurora]

It really isnt that hard compared to rev ngl

I barely noticed any differences

Except plantera fucked me over

[smoky dock]

i think stealth is better because spam is CRINGE and i dont like ot

[dim aurora]

And skeletron prime i just tanked through with pall armor cuz i dunno how you dodge the skulls

Its bs

[smoky dock]

I do not care if stealth or spam is ‘better’ given a weapon or boss I will use stealth without fail

[dim aurora]

The dog rogue weapon drop seems to me to be like unusable for single target

[wispy scaffold]

For the skulls, just circle around it. The best pre mech wings have sufficient flight stats to enable this.

[ashen pier]

providence stealth dps doesn't exist

[gloomy wedge]

I like spam because stealth forces me to not armor mix

[ashen pier]

10 minute long fight

[fading dove]

i fucking love optimisation

[smoky dock]

I have no idea what you’re talking about

[dim aurora]

In my ranger playthrough he also shot lasers from his head so it was unavoidable damage

[gloomy wedge]

The only time I’ll use stealth is when the stealth strike is REALLY fucking satisfying

[dim aurora]

In mage he didnt

[gloomy wedge]

See supernova, ichor spear, seared pan

[fading dove]

thank you dragon rage for not giving a shit about a 30% nerf

[wispy scaffold]

I hate armor mixing. It is such a dumb concept.

[pale mulch]

Is there a good weapon from the Giant Clam or anything I could craft after it's defeated?

[smoky dock]

Armor mixing rocks

[dim aurora]

Exec blade

[gloomy wedge]

If you play monster hunter you get the appeal of armor mixing

[wispy scaffold]

I don't care if armor mixing is strong. I hate it and I refuse to do it.

[smoky dock]

In hardmode, Deep Diver, Mollusk armor, and Supreme Bait and Tackle Armor Mixing

[smoky dock]

it’s not
calamity makes it so much harder to make it work

[wispy scaffold]

As it should

[pale mulch]

So I guess I'll still stick from the set I used to defeat it

[fading dove]

i think niche optimisations are good

[dim aurora]

Flask of ichor or crumbling

Early hm rn

[fading dove]

depends on the target

ichor i think

except destroyer

then its party

[dim aurora]

Crumbling should be better later on as enemies get more def

[smoky dock]

depends on opponent

[dim aurora]

Iirc crumbling is percentage?

[fading dove]

yeah

0.92x dr

[smoky dock]

Ichor is never 100% outclassed

[dim aurora]

I thought these are vanity

[smoky dock]

Your weapon matters more. Like a few weapons on Yharon want Ichor

[dim aurora]

Well uh what do i use for destr infernum melee

[fading dove]

which is a lot more impactful on something like cocooned providence than on something like cltist

[smoky dock]

flask of party

[fading dove]

oh destroyer is party

[dim aurora]

Weapon

[fading dove]

subshocker 🤤

[dim aurora]

Right

[smoky dock]

subshocker if you don’t want to play the game

[dim aurora]

That thing shreds worms

[fading dove]

if you don't want a sub minute time, probably weaponless with deep diver slagsplitter

[gloomy wedge]

Wait what does party actually do

[dim aurora]

Me when my weapon is a ram dash

[gloomy wedge]

Besides look funny

[fading dove]

every hit generates a bunch of particles

[gloomy wedge]

So it’s a lag generator

[fading dove]

sometimes

[dim aurora]

Acc i wanna get storm saber

Its homing

[fading dove]

like my computer is pretty damn strong and i still get a solid 40 frames of lag when i ohko sepulcher

[smoky dock]

I used Flask of Party on DoG once and genuinely had to disable it because it made it too easy

85% fight time -> 75% fight time due to partymaxxing alone

[tribal mortar]

Does cal change flask of party

[pale mulch]

Is Storm Surge better than the Minishark?

[fading dove]

makes it all class

that's it though

[tribal mortar]

Why is it good then

It’s a vanity effect

[clear quail]

slow down time

[leaden gate]

why is the bereft vassal so buggy

like its subworld fucks progression

[fading dove]

boss checklist does that

[leaden gate]

ah

fuck boss checklist

why does it do tha

have we data mined it?

[fading dove]

iirc its source code is on github

but all we have is that

yeah it just kinda does that

[leaden gate]

does this button only appear when it bugs? I dont think ive ever seen it

[prisma jewel]

How do I replace this SHIT scal theme with the other one bro

[clear quail]

infernum music, right?

[prisma jewel]

I have it installed yeah

[queen isle]

there's a config option isnt there

[clear quail]

there is a setting in infernum music config

[prisma jewel]

Thank you

[queen isle]

wait which one is the shit one

[clear quail]

definitely infernum music one

[queen isle]

id hope so

[clear quail]

he didnt know there is a config ~ he didnt touched the thing ~ he heard the infernum scal theme

[prisma jewel]

The one with the stupid moaning lady with a crappy filter on it

[queen isle]

idk if it's on or off by default

[leaden gate]

I lowkey dont remember which one that is

[clear quail]

on by default i recall

[queen isle]

ah

yeah ngl infernum scal theme kind of sucks

at least in my opinion

stained brutal calamity is way bettee

[leaden gate]

I dont think ive ever noticed a difference lol

too locked in

[prisma jewel]

Bro why is phase 2 of scal so needlessly difficult 😭

[leaden gate]

wait wait so theres no actual way to tick off sand shark, nor bereft vassal on boss checklist then

unless I were to switch to boss checklist lite

cuz it also fucked with my community progress

[smoky dock]

Afaik it flips the boss bools so it would indeed fuck with Community

[prisma jewel]

NO bro

[leaden gate]

thats actually so weird

[prisma jewel]

I got her down to 40% I made it so much further than time

I got hit and died RIGHT as my draedon heart and healing pot just refreshed 😭

[leaden gate]

you reckon it would be safe to switch to lite mid playthrough?

[smoky dock]

Yep, it’s safe

[lost night]

on infernum (just the mod not the mode) im not sure when i should go to the abyss, im pre plantera rn and havnt even been there. when i do what gear should i have

[lyric kiln]

man, Silver Enchantment seems like it should be really good for this Hive Mind fight, since it's currently doing less than 100 damage to me, so parrying an attack fully blocks in

but in practice it's not exactly the hits that I see coming that are getting me

[gloomy wedge]

that's the tricky thing with silver ench

most pre hm bosses dont really have many telegraphed attacks to actually use the parry against

imo it's most useful as a buff to other parries like pumpking's cape

[lyric kiln]

on the other hand, Crimson Enchantment is great

unsurprisingly, an enchantment that's functionally 50% damage reduction as long as you get hit less than once every 7 seconds is pretty good

unfortunately I'm having some trouble with the final phase of the fight, where it's just all fast dashes

so I might have to do a hotswap for the final phase

[gloomy wedge]

i think one of the big enchants that helped me on hive mind was lead ench

[prisma jewel]

https://medal.tv/games/terraria/clips/kK7qyeUL9B4nMijUy?invite=cr-MSxFbDksMTcyNjQ4NTEy honestly, my phase 2 sucks bro, phase 3 is expected cause it was a sightread and my first time being there 😭

[lyric kiln]

Lead seems good, but I don't really have the space for it, since I only really have one "free" accessory slot

though I guess theoretically I could replace both sandstorm balloon and shield of cthulhu with Jungle Enchantment

but that seems... like a bad idea

[humble marlin]

good idea

enchants are really goog

[lyric kiln]

yeah but Jungle Enchant is kind of a shitty double jump and kind of a shitty dash

[gloomy wedge]

you just dont need a dash tbh

base dash is more than good enough for every pre-hm fight

[lyric kiln]

I dunno, having the fast turnaround is helping a lot on this Hive Mind fight

since I need to do a lot of fast precise movement

and it's also faster than me during the chase phase, but just has bad tracking

[floral bridge]

what does this rift do

[gloomy wedge]

again, the base dash

[prisma jewel]

Land of sigmas

[gloomy wedge]

if you want a fast turnaround without using a dash, meteor enchant is also very good

[floral bridge]

sadly im not one so it doesnt work

[gloomy wedge]

or you can just practice a bit of hook movement

[fading dove]

styx is likely better than auric tesla

but

im not gonna smg exos just for a speedkill

[prisma jewel]

Okay and phase 3 of scal just jumpscares me with lines everywhere, supernovas in my bum and flying suns

passed 40% hp this time tho, getting better

[smoky dock]

Instant Turnaround Glitch

legendary movement tech

[queen isle]

is this just default dash or is this something else

[leaden gate]

surely give us a tutorial

[smoky dock]

go into your settings menu

in the calamity configs enable Double Tap Dash Override and Base Dash

Set the hotkey to whatever you please (default is F)

input a direction and hit the hotkey you set

This is the Instant Acceleration Glitch

[cedar laurel]

Is destroyer supposed to take that little damages

[smoky dock]

now if you input the opposite direction you’re currently going

That’s the Instant Turnaround Glitch

it’s spammable with a cooldown of like, ten frames in Infernum

I think it’s 15…

[dim aurora]

https://youtu.be/bfZTyEWuKeU?si=RLyzGjMx8pMmJY9j 32:22 wheres the water😭

[fading dove]

wait until the 33 minute mark

[dim aurora]

how do you move like tha underwater

i have flipper and still floaty when falling

[lost night]

what gear should i have for post plantera abyss (infernum)

[smoky dock]

Abyssal Diving Gear iirc

you need to beat leviana first to make the abyss generate better rewards but once it does then Abyssal Diving Gear is available

[lost night]

yeah ive never been in the abyss before so idk what to expect, i downloaded infernum but not using the mode just because i like the structures

so yeah

[leaden gate]

what do these 2 stats mean?

[smoky dock]

Infernum doesn’t change Infernum progression

[smoky dock]

A parsec is a cosmological unit of distance

[dim aurora]

what the hell

[leaden gate]

so im very very very fucking far away lmao

[lost night]

so is the abyss still reworked

[leaden gate]

wotg stuff

[fading dove]

aquatic scourge

and jared

both of them disable water physics which kinda ruins the whole point

[dim aurora]

wha

[noble spruce]

Is it normal that I was able to get the obsidian armor without defeating the eater of worlds in infernum?

[fading dove]

no

tissue samples and shadow scales are post boc and eow respectively

[dim aurora]

reaver shark?

[gloomy wedge]

1 parsec is 3.26 lightyears

or 19.2 trillion miles

[leaden gate]

ah, so yeah, im definitely very very far away

[fading dove]

how do you mine shadow scales

[gloomy wedge]

not that far away, just the next universe over

[fading dove]

last time i checked there's no shadow scale ore

[noble spruce]

Ye, but on infernum if you reach phase 3 sometimes it drops a couple of shadow scales, even if you don't defeat it at the end

[leaden gate]

a walking distance

[dim aurora]

i cant read

[noble spruce]

So I just attempted the fight some times and got enough scales for an armor

[gloomy wedge]

anyways, first boss down

[dire hare]

after I beat the WoF in infernum, my whole sunken sea dried up. Is this an intentional feature? or a bug?

[smoky dock]

Yes

[dusky ingot]

Maybe you made a hole in the bottom of the abyss

[lost night]

so kill leviathan then i can go down?

[dusky ingot]

I mean, the sunken sea

[smoky dock]

Sounds like a bug. Not intentional

[dusky ingot]

Or something

[smoky dock]

Yep!

[lost night]

thanks

[dire hare]

oh interesting, that's probably true, thanks!

[lyric kiln]

welp, clearly this is just as god intended for Hive Mind to be fought

[smoky dock]

Did you notice liquids floating or flowing slowly?

[dusky ingot]

I mean, I know that if you make a hole in the abyss it can dry up, so I assume the same can go for sunken sea

[acoustic hawk]

what are some good add on mods for calamity aside from infernum

[lyric kiln]

fully ethical Calamity Hive Mind loadout lmao

[dusky ingot]

So just plug up the holes probably

And the liquid will respawn

[smoky dock]

the only i’d advise are catalyst and vanites, but they’re optional

[acoustic hawk]

what does catalyst change/add?

[dire hare]

wait that wild
my character's been laggy for so long recently, I've been falling so slowly in the air

I guess I have my answer then

[leaden gate]

is there a compatibility mod for fargos and cal?

[fading dove]

its a ng+ addon that adds whips, flamethrowers, and a preml superboss with high end gear

[fading dove]

yeah

souls dlc

[leaden gate]

oh nice, maybe I do one more playthrough after this then :3

[dusky ingot]

Well depends on if you mean fargo's souls or some other fargo's

[acoustic hawk]

more whips? sounds like a plan to me

[dim aurora]

Which is busted from what i heard

[acoustic hawk]

catalized inferno is for compatabilty right?

[heavy void]

Is calamity overhaul still chopped

[fading dove]

its just stat bloat

[fading dove]

yeah

[dusky ingot]

Wdym by chopped?

[heavy void]

I saw Adrian made a video using it

[heavy void]

Not good

[dusky ingot]

Well I doubt it will ever be good

[acoustic hawk]

would wrath of the gods be a worth while addition or not?

[heavy void]

Yes

Always

[cedar laurel]

It’s cool

But laggy and

[heavy void]

What does it change really

[dusky ingot]

But might be funny to play with,kinda like Calamity Community Remix

[dusky ingot]

Well there's a whole paragraph about it on pins

[lyric kiln]

There is yeah, used to be that it just added Calamity items to the Soul of Eternity, but now there's full-on Eternity Mode integration

so I'm playing Eternity + Death

[fading dove]

except for when it refuses to be uninstalled

yes this has happened

[lyric kiln]

since you can now mix and match Eternity with Calamity's difficulties

[cedar laurel]

Early hardmode eternity summoner is killing me

[acoustic hawk]

Wrath of the gods and infernum are compatible right

[lyric kiln]

and I gotta say, the Eternity mode versions of the Calamity bosses are ridiculously good

like, the boss design is impeccable

[heavy void]

Are you playing maso or eternity

[worn lintel]

Guys

[lyric kiln]

both gameplay and aesthetically

[worn lintel]

I need help

[cedar laurel]

These minions doesn’t even aggro on aquatic scourge

[lyric kiln]

Eternity

[worn lintel]

I put wrath of gods after defeating moon lord hpw do i get the npc from skeletron??

[heavy void]

Have you fought the deviant yet

[cedar laurel]

make a new world I think

[dusky ingot]

Save them (You can't)

[lyric kiln]

I've fought Deviantt in a solo Eternity playthrough, but not Eternity + Death no

[sour blade]

A few gods get added nothing much

[lyric kiln]

I just beat Hive Mind

[worn lintel]

Huh

[heavy void]

The eternity changes are all really cool

[lyric kiln]

turns out all it took was replacing my entire loadout

[heavy void]

None of them are nearly as hard as the deviant group

Tho

[cedar laurel]

Have you seen eternity perforators yet

[heavy void]

Bro it blew my mind first time I fought it

[lyric kiln]

I haven't, but given how great Hive Mind is I'm sure it'll be just as if not more cool

[cedar laurel]

even crazier looking

[lyric kiln]

but that'll have to wait until I have a chance to set up an underground crimson

[heavy void]

You don’t need to

Just make the summon cuz Fargo lets u and summon it anywhere

[cedar laurel]

this why Fargo best of both worlds is awesome

[lyric kiln]

that technically works, but idk I feel like if I don't fight it in an underground box I'm not getting the full experience

but I guess I could fight it in my Corruption arena

[heavy void]

I don’t think you’d want to fight it underground

[cedar laurel]

It’s supposed to be fought on surface

[lyric kiln]

it enrages on the surface though, at least theoretically

[fading dove]

no

[lyric kiln]

when not using the Fargo's version

[fading dove]

oh yeah

when not playing on eternity

[worn lintel]

How do i get the npc from skeletron??

[fading dove]

all but 8 eternity (mini)bosses are intended surface
the ones that aren't are queen bee, wof, plantera, golem, champion of terra, champion of earth, champion of nature, and champion of spirit

cursed coffin goes in his own special room

[dusky ingot]

I think you need WoTG worldgen for it to work

[worn lintel]

What is that

[dusky ingot]

Wrath of the Gods

I think you'd need to create the world with the mod

[worn lintel]

And what do i do now

[lyric kiln]

cheat I guess

use one of the cheat mods to just force enable Solyn spawn trigger

or something

[worn lintel]

Isnt there a doll u can get and it spawns skeletron?

[elder nebula]

from the dungeon yeah

[smoky dock]

Uhhh I know Clothier Voodoo Doll is a thing

[elder nebula]

it's unbelievably rare tho

[smoky dock]

Infernum has the Dungeon’s Curse

[dusky ingot]

But Skeletron isn't the problem doe

It's everything else that won't cause Solyn to spawn (probably)

[smoky dock]

Oh is this a ‘where solyn’ issue

[dusky ingot]

Yeah, WoTG added after beating ML in the world

[smoky dock]

oh classic

Yeah I have no clue

[worn lintel]

Damn

im cooked?

How do i use the voodo doll

Clothier

[cedar laurel]

Equip and kill him

[worn lintel]

I killed him

No skeletron

Just a book

[dusky ingot]

Just antipsychotic medication

[worn lintel]

How do i fix ittt

[calm dagger]

Does summoner stay boring the whole time

[dusky ingot]

Depends on what you count as boring?

I wouldn't say so

[calm dagger]

Cus rn my summons are all the same

[dusky ingot]

But if by boring you mean that it annihilates everything and makes the fights boring then yea

[calm dagger]

Nah it's just that they are all the same

[dusky ingot]

Yeah, you'll have to mix summons later and some of them are quite unique

I mean, not have to, but optimal

[worn lintel]

What do i do bro hellppp

[calm dagger]

Okay cuz I'm at plantera rn and it's been kinda annoying just getting the same summon with a different look

But I will persevere

[calm dagger]

What r u doing

[worn lintel]

I put wotg after ML

[calm dagger]

Download cheat sheet

And summon Solyn

[worn lintel]

Know any cheat sheets?

[calm dagger]

It's called cheat sheet

[dusky ingot]

cheat sheet

[fading dove]

dragonlens is my preferred testing and debugging mod

[dusky ingot]

cheat sheet I feel is more intuitive for people that just want it for a couple missing items/NPCs

[worn lintel]

How do i spawn her now

[leaden gate]

am I going crazy, I dont ever remember signus being this fast paced

[dusky ingot]

I don't think he is

[humble marlin]

well what you have to do with late WoTG addition is debugging

[worn lintel]

I have the cheat sheet how do i spawn her

[leaden gate]

it feels like when you play an old game at higher than 60 fps

[worn lintel]

How

[leaden gate]

and every animation is like 2x speed

[humble marlin]

idfk i never have done late addition

[dusky ingot]

Probably go into NPC spawner and search for Solyn

And spawn her

Something like that

[humble marlin]

read the wiki or something

[worn lintel]

I spawned her she says talk later

[lyric kiln]

I think you need the flag

since that's the thing that makes Solyn "move in"

[leaden gate]

^

[gloomy wedge]

money

[fading dove]

gold slime genocide 🤤

[unique sage]

does anyone know what this text is supposed to mean? this is from the calamity overhaul mod

the one at the bottom

for the trial

not sure exactly what they want me to do to upgrade the marusama

[gloomy wedge]

first of all, dont use calamity overhaul

if you want to know why then go check pins

[unique sage]

dang really? alr, the pins in here?

[fading dove]

yeah

[leaden gate]

^^^

I replied to the message in question

oh sorry

didnt mean to reply ping lol

[pearl shoal]

[leaden gate]

I DIDNT MEAN IT, FORGIVE ME

[fading dove]

pinged dev youre getting publicly executed sorry

[gloomy wedge]

death to your bloodline

[leaden gate]

its over for me

[dusky ingot]

Thou shalt not be forgiven

[unique sage]

dang.. didnt know it was buggy

well its kinda too late now tho, no?

[dusky ingot]

Ye, probably

[leaden gate]

a lil bit lol

[dusky ingot]

Well atleast try to have fun

[unique sage]

what exactly about the character does it brick..?

oh wait thats if u disable it, nvm

[dusky ingot]

Yea, so better not to remove it mid-playthru

Might corrupt world/character I heard

Doe supposedly also does that sometimes randomly, but not sure

[unique sage]

[worn lintel]

Solyn is here but i hear the sound of the chat and dont see it

Anyone?

Bruh

[pearl shoal]

impatient brat

[pearl shoal]

probably best to ask or report that in the WotG discord

[unique sage]

right, speaking of solyn, me and my friend have her in our world. but when we first placed the pole down, her tent just didnt appear. she was able to sleep inside of it. but we couldnt see it or enter it. we got that one mod that supposedly fixes the mod in multiplayer but ye... not working. perhaps calamity overhaul is affecting it? we've tried to use a solyn quest resetter to get her pole back cuz my friend broke it and it disappeared, we got it back but now she just wont place a tent or anything

[pearl shoal]

Cal overhaul is likely breaking stuff

it always does

[dusky ingot]

You using WoTG on multiplayer?

[worn lintel]

Ye

[unique sage]

mhm

[dusky ingot]

Good luck lol

[unique sage]

there was a mod that appeared that supposedly fixes the mod in mutliplayer that we downloaded

but yah :v

[dusky ingot]

Maybe it could work, but from what I know WoTG is based heavily off subworlds, so I'm not sure if anything can fix it

[unique sage]

ye i heard dat aswell..

[night fractal]

I just use like 5 of them

[rare jacinth]

i just beat moon lord what the Firck!!!!!!!!!!!! should i grab

[fading dove]

heart of the master

[rare jacinth]

BET

god fuck

i guess the moons wont be too bad now

but the first time i did them i got to wave 15 with one minute left and got basically nothing </3

btw thanks for being so helpful through my playthrough

uve done a lot for me

[gloomy wedge]

wait, chalice still exists?

[fading dove]

uhhhh

chalice is the ml drop

[gloomy wedge]

oh its the ml drop now

yeah just get heart of the master

it has literally every good accessory ever

[fading dove]

galactic globe is dead </3

[leaden gate]

he looms...

[fading dove]

true heart of the master is pretty much an auto equip

[light gulch]

help
Moonlord's intergalactic deathray is ruining my day constantly and my gear is just not handling it at all

[fading dove]

unless you're going for something in particular

[dusky ingot]

Ursa Sergeant or no balls

[elder nebula]

true

[fading dove]

true ursa is delicious

[gloomy wedge]

dont use blood pact

absorber's better

[rare jacinth]

ursa is my bb

[gloomy wedge]

also use top 1 most broken accessory of all time

amalgamated brain

[dusky ingot]

Yea it's very good

[snow sun]

Bobibobibobobibo

[dusky ingot]

I still use it against DoG

[light gulch]

the phantasmal bolts keep coming out at weird angles and the deathrays that go straight down just seem to be glued to me on account of ML's movement behavior

[elder nebula]

mmmmm free dodges shlrpshlrpshlrp

[eternal escarp]

I guess it wasnt as bad as i expected (infernum)

[lost night]

when is great sandshark meant to be fought in infernum

[odd kraken]

Infernum Polterghast is just plain unfair

[eternal escarp]

rigth before moonlord

[gloomy wedge]

post cultist

[dusky ingot]

That's pretty good

[gloomy wedge]

same tier as deus

[lost night]

kk ty

[dusky ingot]

I think it took me like 25 tries to kill polter

[odd kraken]

if you have catalyst its right before astrageladon
otherwise post cultist

[eternal escarp]

that final desperation attack caugth is so bs

its fun, but its bs

[dusky ingot]

Oh yeah fight him when you get post-cultist, the accessory he gives is absolutely busted

[gloomy wedge]

fun?

on polter?

a bit questionable but ok

[eternal escarp]

the whip is so good too

[dusky ingot]

It isn't really, it's just a regular simple bullethell

[gloomy wedge]

and the flamethrower

[dusky ingot]

Doesn't even come close to the accessory doe

[eternal escarp]

true true

that acc is literally 2 free hits

[dusky ingot]

The whip is like B-tier or A-tier

Accessory is Around S+ tier

[eternal escarp]

for what we have in calamity? id say is pretty good

it does more tag damage than kaleidoscope

[worn lintel]

Yo

Solyn said marked location in map

I see nothing

[dusky ingot]

Because you don't have the structure from WoTG

Because you didn't create the world with it

[worn lintel]

Damn

[dusky ingot]

I'm not sure what you can do, there's some flower plantling thing there, which you'll probably have to cheat it

cheat in*

Try checking if maybe there is some info on WoTG wiki or something

[worn lintel]

Is there an infinite storage thing or smth to move all my chests

?

[calm dagger]

What's the most fun class for infernum, just in general

[light gulch]

Ok
I’m probably tripping but is the only way to get depth cells fighting Levi and Anahita or do they drop after fighting other bosses

[dusky ingot]

Isn't it from Abyss after defeating Calclone?

[vocal matrix]

as masochist and infernum both override boss ai, can i not have them both active?

[flint fossil]

yeah

[light gulch]

I would think so but I haven’t gotten any so far
But then again I’ve been mostly just fishing

Unless I’ve just been unlucky

[dusky ingot]

Afaik, they do not work together generally

[dusky ingot]

Then go to abyss, maybe a bit lower than you've been to?

[light gulch]

No I mean I’m fishing up hydrothermal crates

Because I don’t have the equipment to survive the abyss for more than 30 seconds and honestly I’m getting tired of going on side quests to complete side quests

[dusky ingot]

You can just get Amidas Blessing I think

Each time you go down

From the Fish NPC

He gives a buff where you can breathe underwater aslong as you don't get hit

[vocal matrix]

on a world with thorium, calamity fargos, and some QoL mods, what is the overall hardest (and funnest) difficulty; infernum or eternity death?

[cunning folio]

Amidas Blessing is so OP to be honest. I hope they never nerf it

[cunning folio]

eternity death is more unfair

[light gulch]

Iirc doesn’t amadias’ blessing not give infinite water breathing in the abyss?

[cunning folio]

in my opinion

[vocal matrix]

which more fun and challenging

[dusky ingot]

Does

[vocal matrix]

w cooler boss fights

[light gulch]

Ok
Also please turn off ping I’m right here

[dusky ingot]

I dunno, my replies automatically have the ping thing

[light gulch]

Yeah that’s why I’m asking you to turn them off

[vocal matrix]

im not getting any pings?

[light gulch]

Idk why discord doesn’t have the option to have replies not ping by default
That’d be a good change

[light gulch]

If someone replies to a message, it has ping on by default
But just posting messages in a server channel doesn’t

[vocal matrix]

so...

does eternity-death have funner bosses and harder gameplay than infernum or not?

[fading dove]

depends

fun is subjective

[vocal matrix]

and are there any items or bosses ressticted to one?

restricted*

[buoyant sorrel]

is there any multiplayer patch for infernum? my friend has the mod since he downlaoded it a long time ago but its not available for downlaod anymore

[fading dove]

infernum ate it

[buoyant sorrel]

and we tried extracting it and stuff but it didnt work

[dusky ingot]

It's part of infernum mod now

[buoyant sorrel]

wait infernum is multiplayer now?

[heavy void]

why wont solyn set up her camp

its been forever

[dusky ingot]

Not really, but it has the multiplayer patch

Which doesn't work too well, but atleast it's something

[buoyant sorrel]

oh ok

[rare jacinth]

yayyyy

[light gulch]

So
I just went and tested the third layer
None of the enemies drop depth cells

[vocal matrix]

on a single player world with fargos, stars above, thorium, calamity and calamity addons (such as catalyst and infernum) will I run into any issues (aside from thriums bad scaling which I am aware of)?

[elder nebula]

is this an actual question

[vocal matrix]

um

no?

lots of incompatibility?

[elder nebula]

[rare jacinth]

i just found something stupid

[vocal matrix]

is it that bad?

[rare jacinth]

YES

[vocal matrix]

damn

[rare jacinth]

you are attempting to mix 4, 5 content mods

[vocal matrix]

yh

[elder nebula]

mixing FIVE major content mods will surely go well and have no issues whatsoever

[vocal matrix]

it works with fargos thorium and calamity no?

[snow sun]

…hwat th fuk

[elder nebula]

not thorium

just fargos and cal

[vocal matrix]

damn

[leaden gate]

even if mixing 5 content mods wasnt buggy as fuck and unbalanced blah blah blah. think of the content overload...

[vocal matrix]

ive seen ppl saying u can lol

[leaden gate]

youd never get anything done

[elder nebula]

those people are morons

[rare jacinth]

do fargos and calamity
or thorium and calamity
both of those mods have compatibility addons with calamity (though im unsure how good they are)

or just

calamity

[leaden gate]

sure, it can be done, doesnt mean you should

(and by can I mean you can press play, not that it works well)

[vocal matrix]

im fine with content overload; my issue with calamity was that i beat every boss on death in a couple days while trying to take it slow

[elder nebula]

skill...

solution?

[leaden gate]

atp try a different game 😭

[vocal matrix]

good point

[leaden gate]

go play stardew valley :3

terraria if it was good

[vocal matrix]

even better...

should i touch some grass?

[dusky ingot]

There were also people that used to say Tremor was a good mod

These people are extinct now, cause they are morons

[vocal matrix]

lol

[dusky ingot]

The people you've met are not gone yet I guess, but maybe soon

[elder nebula]

natural selection moment

[fading dove]

2:11 inf scal

iirc minimum killtime for nohits is 4:15

[elder nebula]

wrong reply?

[fading dove]

no that was intentional

inf and souls are incompatible

[rare jacinth]

so cool

[unique sage]

me and my friend have decided to make new characters and world seeing how overhaul is buggy and WoTG isnt working. some addons, or just any mod, recommendations would be very appreciated. we got these so far:
calamity
recipe browser
boss checklist
fargo's mutant mod
alchemist npc lite
TWAILA
WMITF
town npc checklist
ore excavator
armament display

[rare jacinth]

most addons will not function in multiplayer

;(

[gloomy wedge]

nah theyre extinct because tremor reloaded didnt come out

[unique sage]

ye... heard that WoTG and HoToG dont work..

[gloomy wedge]

morons are still alive and well in the tmod community

[rare jacinth]

catalyst will probably work fine besides astragedon

[gloomy wedge]

see myself for example

[elder nebula]

astrageldon is completely fine in mp

[gloomy wedge]

calamity's vanities is a really safe mod to slap on any playthrough

and lets you get dripped the fuck out

[uncut ocean]

heading to fight providence, managed to get the warbanner of the sun but not sure what it should replace

[gloomy wedge]

sure you have like 2 new hooks ig so, technically its not just vanity

[elder nebula]

community

[rare jacinth]

i should have said probably

[limber sage]

except sometimes the 'arena' won't actually generate in MP

[uncut ocean]

gotcha

[rare jacinth]

I'm surprised by that actually

[prisma jewel]

Anyone know why infernum hivemind heals? My friends fighting him wondering if there's a counter or something

[elder nebula]

idk i've never had any issues personally

[rare jacinth]

i wouldn't know but ijust couldn't imagine it going well

[unique sage]

the catalyst mod?

never heard of it

[limber sage]

it's happened both times I played calamity mp

[unique sage]

oh that sounds fun

[limber sage]

where the arena just didn't generate so it made the fight weird

[rare jacinth]

it's a rather high quality, though low quantity calamity addon that adds various whips and flamethrowers throughout progression, as well as a new pre moonlord superboss

[limber sage]

really fun fight with great music

[unique sage]

and its supposedly fine in MP?

[dusky ingot]

Nah I think Geldon works pretty well on multi

[rare jacinth]

you're a tad late

[rare jacinth]

from what I've heard yes

[light gulch]

istg Moonlord's deathray attack is damn near undodgeable in infernum

[limber sage]

yes, it works fine, but there's a risk the fight sequence can break in a weird way

[rare jacinth]

though in my head i just couldn't imagine it

[light gulch]

if it was just the deathrays or just the radial blast I could dodge it
but both combined is just miserable

[unique sage]

interesting, i'll take a look at it then

[limber sage]

just a reminder ubow

if the arena does not form when geldon decides to 'be serious'

don't try to just perma kite

[unique sage]

so imma be adding calamity's vanities and the catalyst mod to this list then

dang its over a year old huh

[limber sage]

add "can I shimmer this"

it might seem useless, but it can help a lot

[elder nebula]

true

[limber sage]

and yes, catalyst is old but good

[unique sage]

oh ye i guess especially in calamity where there are alot of new items

[gloomy wedge]

i should get that mod

[limber sage]

OH, and replace boss checklist with boss checklist lite

the 'normal' boss checklist has a ton of weird, random problems

that sometimes happen, sometimes don't

[unique sage]

oh?

alright then, havent really noticed anything tbh

[gloomy wedge]

tl;dr boss checklist is fucked up and nobody knows why

[limber sage]

yup

[gloomy wedge]

most of the time it works fine

[dusky ingot]

Is there something that can make my dash have more iframes?

[gloomy wedge]

then it might just brick your world because it gets bored

[limber sage]

ambergris/old duke's scales

[unique sage]

lmao

[limber sage]

sorta

[dusky ingot]

Cause I feel like a couple more iframes on my ram dash would help tremendously for dog

[elder nebula]

levi ambergris

[dusky ingot]

How I get ambergris?

[grave sedge]

i have a quick question, i have calamity, infernum and wrath of gods installed. i was trying to fight the 3 mechanical bosses at once but suddenly empress of light spawned and my screen shrunk a bit and started looking like a '90s tv.

i just wanna know why that effect suddenly happened and how

[elder nebula]

leviathan

[dusky ingot]

Did you see the cutscene?

[grave sedge]

i have no idea if it was a cut scene i was too overwhelmed all the sudden

[limber sage]

empress had nothing to do with that, you likely had a lacewing die off screen or whatnot, and that's just a cutscene that happens in every playthrough

[gloomy wedge]

how should i be auto breaking pigronatas

[grave sedge]

but no idea if i saw a cut scene beforehand

[gloomy wedge]

because i have 2000 of them and my ass wants party bullets

[grave sedge]

randomly?

[dusky ingot]

That was the cutscene for killing all 3 mechs I think

The 90s TV

[limber sage]

no, the cutscene happens when all 3 mechs are killed

[grave sedge]

i didnt kill them, she suddenly spawned mid fight

then i died

[limber sage]

did you kill two before hand

[grave sedge]

yeah

2

[limber sage]

and then kill the third

during mayhem

[grave sedge]

pretty sure the 3rd was alive

after i died

[elder nebula]

you mustve killed a prismatic lacewing

[grave sedge]

but the scene was happening while i was being attacked by all of them

[limber sage]

no no, like, did you progress normally

then on the third mech requirement, decide to do mayhem

and kill that 'last mech'

to trigger the scene

that's very likely what happened

[grave sedge]

i see

[limber sage]

or are you batshit insane and decide to do mecha mayhem in cobalt/palladium armour

[grave sedge]

okay it was just extremely overwhelming

[grave sedge]

no no lol

[limber sage]

lmao

[grave sedge]

basically i went to the hallowed area which is next to my base but far enough away from my npcs, spawned them at once, fought them for a good 10 sec before she suddenly spawned and the screen shrunk

[limber sage]

I see. oh, are you using boss checklist? the normal one? that might've accidentally flagged mech kills on EoL being summoned since normally she's post plant, but cal lets you fight her anytime in HM

[worn lintel]

Yo i cant see solyns tent

Or camp site

[thin canyon]

[grave sedge]

yeah

[elder nebula]

boss checklist moment

(it's super buggy)

[grave sedge]

oh

i didnt know that

[elder nebula]

get boss checklist lite

[worn lintel]

Why cant i see solyns camp site and she says she has one

[dusky ingot]

Yeah the Leviathan accessory does make infernum dog slightly more manageable

[grave sedge]

this guy was in the bottom right corner but i think he was fully black

[uncut ocean]

am i crazy or are the profaned guardians way harder than providence herself

[gloomy wedge]

no youre not crazy

[uncut ocean]

omg hai draedon :3

[gloomy wedge]

i think they were way harder

[dusky ingot]

Kinda? I'd say provi is more difficult

But I feel like guardians may be less consistent

[uncut ocean]

idk the guardians took me like 20 tries but prov herself took like 4

technically 3 since one of the attempts was an accidental nighttime spawn

[worn lintel]

Guys

Why cant i see solyns camp site?

[uncut ocean]

but im not complaining because i got the MOTHERFUCKING HOLY COLLIDER ❗

[dusky ingot]

For me guardians took 55 while provi 45

[uncut ocean]

also i love the atmosphere of providence's temple

[limber sage]

did you talk to solyn and get the flag?

[uncut ocean]

interesting

[limber sage]

then place it down in a spot that has enough horizontal AND verticle space?

[worn lintel]

Ye

Put it down she is sleeping invisible

[limber sage]

have you tried reloading the world

[worn lintel]

I will gimme a sec

[dusky ingot]

Well trying to get WoTG to work on a world created without it is a shitshow, so good luck, you'll probably have a lot more trouble

[prisma jewel]

Best run yet almost had her, didn't know that in phase 3 her lasers last infinitely long

[dusky ingot]

Bro cheated 💀 0.08% slowdown

Exposed

[uncut ocean]

what does 0.08% slowdown imply

[dusky ingot]

That he got an average FPS of 59.95, below 60

[uncut ocean]

wait is that considered cheating...

i often get slowed frame rates because my laptop isnt the best

[dusky ingot]

Nope

[uncut ocean]

oh

[dusky ingot]

Just joked lol

Though if it's like a 50% slowdown then it would probs be considered cheating if someone wanted to brag about a nohit or something

New PB on infernum DoG - Attempt #330, HP left: 27.19%

[prisma jewel]

How do I dodge phase 3 calamitas attack

The shadow hand looking one

It literally just teleports ONTO me and insta does 300 damage to me, tf am I meant to do I'm not using RoD

[worn lintel]

Yo

Why is it snowing

Like ice everywhere

[dusky ingot]

That happens post-ml in WoTG

[worn lintel]

Nice

Why is solyn not making a tent tho

?

[dusky ingot]

no clue

Maybe not enough space or something?

[worn lintel]

hm

And how does everything unfreeze

?

[dusky ingot]

You gotta kill a boss much later on

From WoTG

[worn lintel]

Oh ok

[cedar ridge]

guys are wotg bosses hard

[dusky ingot]

Depends on what you compare them to

[cedar ridge]

cause people say it's easy and then I watch a vid and I barely understand what's going on

[dusky ingot]

Overall, not too bad

But quite flashy

[cedar ridge]

base cal death master bosses

[dusky ingot]

Then pretty easy

But still fun

They are atleast unique and got stunning visuals

[ashen pier]

great advice

i was reading then i died 💔

[cedar ridge]

do yk if it's compatible with catalyst

and goozma

[dusky ingot]

I don't see why not

[ashen pier]

this is probably the most learny infernum boss so far

[dusky ingot]

What about something like DoG? Isn't that more learny?

[ashen pier]

i don't think it is

dog was just like ram ram ram laser wall ram ram ram or alternatively speeeeen

[dusky ingot]

Isn't Yharon just ram ram fly up but just slower than dog?

[cedar ridge]

what if I also add stars above

[grizzled gyro]

has anyone using WOTG experienced solyn just

disappearing on impact

like it shows her falling out of the sky at the right moment but the instant she lands shes just gone

[lucid cypress]

does masodeath mode mess with wotm at all

[sterile basin]

is there a mod for infernum multiplayer fix

[dusky ingot]

It's in infernum

[limber sage]

that was absorbed by infernum ages ago.

[dusky ingot]

Part of it

[dusky ingot]

Well I think they do have some compatibility, so would probs work

[limber sage]

stars above does have calamity compatibility

as well as thorium

but the stellar array and the novas are extremely powerful

essentially they can make difficult bosses a faceroll

so yeah

[sterile basin]

So infernum is playable with friends?

[limber sage]

it's still really buggy and one boss isn't accessible but

yes

[sterile basin]

Which boss

[limber sage]

sandshark replacement

which means no grand scales

[sterile basin]

Ah

[limber sage]

or other really strong weapons/gear

[sterile basin]

Ehh

His problem not mine

[limber sage]

as long as y'all aren't playing rogue it should be fine

as, iirc, rogue requires at least one grand scale for a miracle weapon

[fading dove]

yeah duststorm in a bottle

into sealed singularity into supernova

[gloomy wedge]

is dragoon drizzlefish just a janky ass weapon or am i missing something about this projectile

[fading dove]

its kinda janky with low velocity

[prisma jewel]

NOOOOO

I DIED IN SCAL DESPERATION

FUCKKK

https://medal.tv/games/terraria/clips/kKcxAtBVn59VtmP-1?invite=cr-MSw4bG8sMTcyNjQ4NTEy

[fast kraken]

vanities and infernum are onl in 1.4.4?

[wicked creek]

My slime god paladins keep despawning ugh

This shit is so annoying

[fervent nimbus]

is there a easier way to clean the world

other than the clenamitaor

[wicked creek]

Terraformer lol

[fast kraken]

there is a mod to stop spreading, is not going to clean it for you, but it will stop spreading

is calamity vanities on 1.4.3?

or calamity infernum?

[past pagoda]

purfication powder (worse)
blowing up/mining the entire world)

[past pagoda]

lol

[limber sage]

it turns mushroom biomes into jungle tho so

[limber sage]

no to either, they are for the most recent version

[fast kraken]

Damn

[fast kraken]

I think magic storage is not on 1.4.4 right?

[limber sage]

I'm not quite familiar with terraria mods as I am ark or minecraft but, afaik with mods, if it's only available on the latest version, and there's no "legacy" style mod, then it won't work with older versions

[errant sapphire]

my friend wants infernum along with fargos, would fargos break infernum

or make everything non balanced

[prisma jewel]

I've died 4 times now to the desperation 3 scal 😭

[limber sage]

fargo souls?

cuz that's a bad idea

two mods that overwrite ai with no compatibility patch?

you could do base calamity with fargo souls dlc tho

just not infernum+souls

[wicked creek]

Yes , if it's Fargo's souls

[fading dove]

balance wise its completely fucked

2:11 scal

3:11 mutant

[dusky ingot]

It's a very good pre-boss weapon

[fast kraken]

I know there is a addon for fargos adding those two plus infernum would break it?

[dusky ingot]

Probably the best ranger one

[wicked creek]

Yes

[fading dove]

yeah

[wicked creek]

Infernum is NOT compatible with Fargo's souls + calamity DLC

[fast kraken]

Oh

Read it wrong

Sorry

[fading dove]

illusioner's reverie gets a 3:11 on mutant without much effort when intended killtime is 5:30-6:30

infernum supreme witch's intended killtime iirc is around 4:30

[fervent nimbus]

would this ruin the world?

[limber sage]

not really

again, just turns mushroom biomes into jungles

as a weird side effect

[fading dove]

though it doesn't cleanse some astral blocks

mainly snow, dirt, and remains

[limber sage]

best to get dark blue solution from truffle beforehand btw, so you can fix the surface mushroom biome when you use it

also, I didn't know it did that about the astral interaction

weird

[fading dove]

it only cleanses tiles that can be infected by vanilla biomes

[limber sage]

is there even a way to get an astral biome back after doing that?

ah, steampunker sells it in astral biome, and astral solution that is

so that's good

[dusky ingot]

I think she sells it regardless of where she is

[limber sage]

really?

[robust rampart]

um

[humble marlin]

calamity addon talk

[humble marlin]

yeah she does

[robust rampart]

whats this about?

im confused-

[fading dove]

this is true

its why wofless is possible

[gilded agate]

What's the best way to deal with Infernum Exo Twins?

I have Thanatos summoned first and Ares summoned second

[fading dove]

watch a nohit ig

there's not a good way to explain solo hunters

[gilded agate]

oh good idea

ty

ok I found one

[robust rampart]

i saw a mod and cant find it. there was one that made boomerrangs into rogue weapons... does anyone know what that is..

[limber sage]

remove that mod from your thoughts

[robust rampart]

but;-;

[limber sage]

it's calamity overhaul, read the pins in here

[robust rampart]

ok;-;

what was i doing again-

[gilded agate]

Defeating the Exo Sex will make Calamitas 200% easier for me because I get Draedon's Heart

[gloomy wedge]

oh my god where are these bone serpents

[prisma jewel]

I love twin phase of scal where I get hit by air

[fervent nimbus]

how would i aqauire all these

[limber sage]

paintings are from invasions/events, hero sword is unchanged, and the thing next to muramasa is sold by abomination after killing a saucer

[fervent nimbus]

which event is which

@limber sage

[limber sage]

1 martian two christmas

the paintings themselves say this much

[grim swallow]

Okay guys
In like a week or two I will do a true melee infernum run which will be the last class infernum run

Should I do master on expert

[limber sage]

two look christmas themed, the other has the martian probe

[limber sage]

the xmas paintings might be from presents post christmas event actually

but the probe painting is dropped during martian invasion

I think?

or perhaps sold by the uh

[dusky ingot]

Or maybe like sold by Cyborg during/after martian?

[limber sage]

painter during the event

[dusky ingot]

Or yeah painter

[limber sage]

some paintings are weird/convoluted honestly

it's best to use google this stuff

[prisma jewel]

Yeah I'm fucking sick of this ass boss bro

[snow nymph]

Is there any way to know which kind of attack dog will do?

[prisma jewel]

Final part of desperation phase and I take 800 damage in one hit from an invisible object

All of the last few bosses of this mod are so shit

[dusky ingot]

Depends on what attacks you mean

[snow nymph]

Left right or up down

Those two

When it dashes to you

And you need to dash aswell

[dusky ingot]

I don't think so? I think he does them depending on your position or something? If we're thinking abt the same attack

[snow nymph]

Bruh

I keep dying just because I start going up instead of right or left

[fervent nimbus]

can i reveal the whole map somehow?

[grim swallow]

Fargos mutant adds that

[fervent nimbus]

how

[cunning folio]

The Ancient Master's Map of the Lost King's Great Ancestors

yes

it's the name of item

[fervent nimbus]

not fully ttho

[night ibex]

how good is astrageldon's loot?
like for its stage of progression

[cunning folio]

really good

can easily last till DoG

[grim swallow]

Cracked

[dusky ingot]

Around as good as providence gear

[night ibex]

holy

[dusky ingot]

A bit too strong imo

Cause the boss isn't really that difficult

[grim swallow]

Metanova bars are uelibloom tier
However armor can be better than bloodflare for some classes

[cunning folio]

it's expected from superboss loot

[night ibex]

hardest boss ive fought so far
50 attempts for 2nd phase 55%

[grim swallow]

But yeah geldon loot breaks progression

[dusky ingot]

Not that bad

[snow nymph]

Bro its omega weak.. dog way harder than it in my opinion

[dusky ingot]

I am currently at 342 attempts at infernum DoG, managed to bring it down to like 30% at best attempt

[snow nymph]

Took me like 12 attempts

[cunning folio]

depends

[dusky ingot]

Well Geldon doesn't really have an infernum version

[snow nymph]

I can't get it under 15%

[dusky ingot]

If it did maybe it'd be difficult

[cunning folio]

DoG mostly forces you to dodge near instant kill attacks (head attack)

[limber sage]

unless you're rogue or melee

[snow nymph]

I am struggling with guessing what it is going to do

[cunning folio]

while Astrageldon fight is all about having enough reflex and precision to not get caught by thousands projectiles

[snow nymph]

Right left or down up

[limber sage]

mage/ranger can be kinda iffy, it's summoner that truly breaks progression

[cunning folio]

and still fit within the moving area

[grim swallow]

Ranger too

[dusky ingot]

Astrageldon you can learn quite quickly

And easily

[night ibex]

honestly you just got to learn the attacks

he does everything in the same order

[limber sage]

geldon fight is a dance

[cunning folio]

it does but getting hit can mess you up

[snow nymph]

Bro I saw a nohit with mage and bro did 26k DMG while my summons do 15k

[limber sage]

a choreographed dance

[grim swallow]

Rangers intergelactic has better dps than bloodflare but low defense

[cunning folio]

and get you out of the flow

[grim swallow]

To be fair summoner is already not well balanced

[limber sage]

vortex has better dps, and there's better weapons than the 'flamethrower'