calamity-addon-talk

[barren zephyr]

wiring

🥱

[fading dove]

summoner uses stardust and stealth rogue uses tarragon iirc

[uncut ocean]

i see

[barren zephyr]

wasnt there a dash item that dropped from dragonfolly

[fading dove]

blunder booster

it kinda sucks though

[barren zephyr]

that let you dash vertically

does it let you ram

through dog

[fading dove]

probably but you run out of stealth way too fast

you don't have 375% stealth

[barren zephyr]

oh it consumes stealth

[fading dove]

yeah

[barren zephyr]

that sucks

[gloomy wedge]

random ass hornet gave me a jungle key

it might be The Run

[uncut ocean]

do u guys have tips on beating infernum skeletron... it feels like the window of opportunity to hit him is really miniscule

[elder nebula]

peak

[limber sage]

are you doing like, true melee?

because if not, I'm pretty sure the flamarang should be able to reach his head during his attacks?

or like

even using windblade should make it easier?

[uncut ocean]

yes

[limber sage]

then that's the hell you chose

there are gonna be bosses that take a long time because of tmelee restriction

[uncut ocean]

damn...

maybe i should just ask about my arena

it currently looks like this

[limber sage]

why is the bottom layer unfinished?

[thin canyon]

gg

hell

i hate moonlord

[uncut ocean]

i placed the instabridge weirdly

[uncut ocean]

do you have like a waifu boss mod or smth

[thin canyon]

yes

[uncut ocean]

i see

that reminds me

what does calamity overhaul do

ive heard its shite but i wanna know how shite

[fading dove]

uhhhhh

runs the risk of bricking your world

[elder nebula]

pins

[fading dove]

whenever you do like

anything

iirc

[gloomy wedge]

it's broken, in many definitions of the word

[uncut ocean]

wow

[limber sage]

it practically removes all 'true melee'

as well

[hollow river]

i get no infurnal flying dutchman relic right?

[raven vapor]

must be a massive skill issue if i use shadowspec tier stuff to beat mutant and still fail

[uncut ocean]

holy shit, even having read the pin i didnt think it could get worse

[elder nebula]

it can always get worse

[uncut ocean]

that actually reminds me, i was wondering if there was some sort of mod/addon that made every melee weapon (or at least every sword) into a true melee weapon?

[fading dove]

tainted

[uncut ocean]

tainted is post calamitas

[elder nebula]

yes

[uncut ocean]

and is also not really what i had in mind

like the terra blade, for example, might still shoot projectiles, but only after a direct hit

[hollow river]

is there a NPC housing guide i can follow

[limber sage]

sadly, I can't see a mod like that since the 'false melee' is such a beloved norm

and if there is, it'd be so niche that it'd be essentially a 'bottom of the barrel gem'

[gloomy wedge]

Tbf I get it, true melee weapons in vanilla fucking suck

Except for True Excalibur

[limber sage]

yeah

and night's edge

[fading dove]

true excalibur actually pretty strong

[uncut ocean]

night's edge? 🥺

[gloomy wedge]

But like Terra Blade is so much cooler than every true melee weapon

[gloomy wedge]

Forgot that counted

[uncut ocean]

true... the terra blade is so cool

it's like the only thing that bugs me about playing true melee

is not using the terra blade

[bleak belfry]

help

[leaden gate]

any weapon advice for dealing with the last phase of slime god (ranger)

[bleak belfry]

I went stargazing with solyn and idk how to stop

how do I un-stargaze

[leaden gate]

finish stargazing?

you got to find the thing

should kick you out automatically

[bleak belfry]

oh

[limber sage]

shadethrower if you're not great at aiming, otherwise archerfish works the whole fight (it's what I used)

[leaden gate]

im using the archer fish aswell, but lil bruh is too fast for me

[limber sage]

you could also use flamewalker treads for an extra debuff

[leaden gate]

ill get the shade thrower

cuz ive got the main fight down to a t

but damn

[thin canyon]

[hollow river]

sulphur plyon doesnt work even if ive got 3 NPCs there
says thers not enough NPCs

[limber sage]

are their banners in the housing?

[hollow river]

yh no

[limber sage]

that's why

[hollow river]

idk why it keeps removing them

[limber sage]

send ss

[limber sage]

remove floor platforms

[hollow river]

ohhh the platforms

[limber sage]

1.4.5 aint here yet

[hollow river]

thanks

[elder nebula]

sad!

[wicked creek]

I start playing infernum

New Albino video (a YouTuber/streamer I sometimes watch): "Terraria Infernum is incredible"

[humble marlin]

that guy is alive

[gloomy wedge]

When is someone gonna release a video that’s like

“Terraria Infernum fucking sucks”

I’m tired of all this positivity

When can we start shitting on things again

[leaden gate]

this really helped, thanks <3

[night rapids]

I'll do it

[limber sage]

[leaden gate]

I LOVE ALBINO

[wicked creek]

Just wait till it stops being compatible or something

Then it'll fade

[night rapids]

I haven't played Infernum in a long ass time

[limber sage]

just watch waffletime

[hollow river]

why is he just staying invincible

[limber sage]

if you want to experience someone thinking the mod is shit 50% of the run

[fading dove]

because its enraged

[gloomy wedge]

Out of water

[humble marlin]

you are out of the wotor

[gloomy wedge]

Go back in

[wicked creek]

The first phase is inside the water

[barren zephyr]

you have to fight him underwater

[wicked creek]

The second is outside

[fading dove]

*third

[hollow river]

ohhh ok ok

thank yu

[fading dove]

i recommend using the infernum boss bar

it shows phases

and if the boss is enraged

[hollow river]

looks goofy

[barren zephyr]

its ugly though

[wicked creek]

Yeah it's nice

But the numbers don't feel as satisfying

[limber sage]

so is the vanilla one

[night rapids]

Yeah I have to say

It looks very weird

[wicked creek]

I use the Infernum one but I think I like base cal one more

[humble marlin]

Infernum one is really good for utility

[hollow river]

does luck make a difference
nvr understood it

[fading dove]

basecal one is hard to read at a glance imo

[limber sage]

hey maxie, can I ask somethin?

[fading dove]

cal removes its effect on damage

[wicked creek]

The big ass yellow numbers that tell the % help

[fading dove]

but other than that its identical to vanilla iirc

[humble marlin]

it calamity it does absolutely nothing

[gloomy wedge]

I really like inf health bar

It’s my personal favorite

[fading dove]

okay but a bar is a lot easier to read

[wicked creek]

Well the Infernum one shows a health bar per phase which is annoying

And the base vanilla one doesn't show percentages

[gloomy wedge]

It’s more helpful to show health by phase

Esp when most lategame Infernum bosses go invincible between phases

[humble marlin]

The fact that infernum shows hp per phase is what makes it insanely useful

[fading dove]

it also shows how many phases there are

[humble marlin]

there is a percentage for full boss hp which is next to the phase indicator

[wicked creek]

Honestly? I find it more annoying than useful

Like I know it has its use but I like seeing the full bar

[humble marlin]

it just makes it easier to make desicions around the fight while knowing how much of a phase is left and if there are any

[wicked creek]

Especially because the percentage on the bar is small enough to where I get distracted trying to read it

[humble marlin]

matters more when you are playing at a high level

[wicked creek]

I think the best option would be something like Cal's but the bar is divided in different color per phase NGL

That would be pretty neat I think

And maybe make the bar a bit thicker

But not much

[limber sage]

nah it should be like terraria 1.0

no health bar at all

[elder nebula]

only on hover

[fading dove]

1.3.5 🤤

[gloomy wedge]

Remember the health bar mod I forgot the name of

[fading dove]

yet another boss healthbar mod

[gloomy wedge]

Yeah that one

[fading dove]

(iirc it was the first healthbar mod)

[hollow river]

what actaully is true melee
is it just better melee

[elder nebula]

yeah

[gloomy wedge]

There were prob a few in the pre-tmod days if I had to guess

[humble marlin]

melee weapons that dont spawn projectiles

[elder nebula]

melee weapons that don't shoot a projectile

just the sword

[humble marlin]

🐌

[hollow river]

ohhhh makes sense

[elder nebula]

my explanation is better so it doesn't count

[humble marlin]

devils sunrise is why i said spawn

and celestial claymore

etc

[limber sage]

there's plenty of true melee that spawn projectiles though?

dragon rage, holy collider, earth, stellar striker

[fading dove]

not unconditionally

all of those require hitting with the sword to do anything

[limber sage]

yes but "Melee weapons that dont' spawn projectiles"

no elaboration

just, "it won't spawn projectiles"

[barren zephyr]

true melee is melee that is

yknow

melee range

[elder nebula]

prismatic breaker

[fading dove]

my definition of tmelee is close range with no detached projectiles produced from using the item unconditionally

[limber sage]

that's a better one yeh

you could also just

"This damage type is applied to melee weapons (and tools) that either do not create any projectiles or require direct hits to do so"

[fading dove]

i specifically tried to include many tmelee feeling weapons while also not excluding some of the more out there tmelee options

[limber sage]

would you consider that stygian shield tmelee if you only use the ram?

[fading dove]

from what ive seen yeah

[limber sage]

fair enough, I felt like it would be too

[fading dove]

the detached projectile part is there to include projectile only weapons like starlight and terragrim

[limber sage]

ah, fair enough

[hollow river]

whos watching me on tv

after destroye

[elder nebula]

draedon

the guy that built the mechs

[gloomy wedge]

Me

[hollow river]

what a gooner

[gloomy wedge]

Those attempts fucking sucked btw

Go no hit them

[elder nebula]

what.

[gloomy wedge]

Then I’ll be impressed

[hollow river]

i just know draedon is a gooner

[fast nacelle]

Draedon isn’t a gooner

He’s a goober

[barren zephyr]

draedon is 100% a gooner

[hollow river]

what is that one

[limber sage]

then why is he in a portable single hotel chair? why isn't he sharing with the goblin tinkerer?

[silk zealot]

does anyone know how i can make my game lag less? it always start lagging whenever i enable wrath of the gods mod but terraria isnt even using my whole computer?

[hollow river]

ultimate cuck chair

[limber sage]

[fading dove]

yeah it does that

[gloomy wedge]

I’m over here building my mechs I got prisms on my mechs I’m building my shit rn I’m calculating as fuck man like

[silk zealot]

is there any way to fix it?

[gloomy wedge]

Wait for an update ig

[fading dove]

better computer

[gloomy wedge]

Wotg is very buggy but I’d say it’s worth toughing it out

[silk zealot]

but terraria isnt even using my whole pc tho?

[leaden gate]

sure it is :3

[hollow river]

what are the best 7 equips for melee build

[elder nebula]

what stage

[hollow river]

moonlord

i did astrum dues by accident tho

[elder nebula]

pre or post??

[hollow river]

post

ive got this for now

[elder nebula]

community is mid

use wings instead of tracers

[night fractal]

Are you using minions too

[elder nebula]

other than that ur fine

[hollow river]

tact palgue engine

[elder nebula]

oh wait get solar armor

[night fractal]

nah

Keep astral if you're using minions

[hollow river]

what should i get instead

[night fractal]

I'd say

[night fractal]

Replace Community with Celestial Shell

[hollow river]

what miniions are best post moonlord

[night fractal]

If you're not using a yoyo, replace yoyo bag with probably Ambrosial Ampoule

[night fractal]

well, if you really wanna go all out

it's one stardust cell, one elemental axe (unless your main weapon inflicts Elemental Mix), and the rest tactical Plague Engine

or all Brittle Stars in defense mode

if you want defense over damage

[hollow river]

wow arent yu beautiful

thank yu v much

[pastel sphinx]

LA-LA-LA LAVA
CH-CH-CH CHICKEN
DEITY'S LAVA CHICKEN TASTY AS HELL

[elder nebula]

i think you should explode

[pastel sphinx]

Bruh

[uncut ocean]

trying to beat skeletron, is there anything i could improve here? my current weapon of choice is the volcano but i could be open to using smth like the tainted blade or the sahara slicers (true melee)

[pastel sphinx]

Use stratigel if you are post perforater

[waxen tide]

huh

statigel is post slime god

[uncut ocean]

i saw about to say o.o

[pastel sphinx]

right yes

[waxen tide]

molten is better than aerospec for tmelee

[night fractal]

Looks fine to me

[pastel sphinx]

I mean, if it's post cal-evil, it's pretty easy to do slime god

[night fractal]

personally I'd consider running Rover Drive over shield of cruhulu

[uncut ocean]

i see, well i'd just have to find a rover drive

[waxen tide]

ehh tmleee core is pretty funny

[night fractal]

since default dash is generally good enough but depends on how you use SoC

[night fractal]

You'll need to find one before hardmode anyway

[uncut ocean]

yeah true

[leaden gate]

why?

[night fractal]

The Sponge requires it later on and rovers are SUPER rare in hardmode

[leaden gate]

oh

ok

[hollow river]

i get chlorophyte when?

[leaden gate]

thanks

[uncut ocean]

although i have gotten a rover drive in hardmode beforeLOL

I didnt even realise it was an important accessory until then

[night fractal]

pretty rare

[uncut ocean]

secondary question

when i beat skeletron, what should the cobalt shield and its upgrades replace?

if anything?

[night fractal]

rover drive or brain of confusion

[pastel sphinx]

I actually never used rover drive..

[uncut ocean]

alrighty

thank you john devoured :D

[night sleet]

What is this Funny Thing™ I need?

[barren zephyr]

this is post cultist stuff

[night sleet]

O H

[night sleet]

im not gonna be doing that for a while then...

[hollow river]

judt before moonlord

[night sleet]

[hollow river]

i think

[barren zephyr]

it gives you an item necessary to beat providence

[pastel sphinx]

I never used that acce to beat providence

[crystal carbon]

wait why 22
am i missing some reference

[barren zephyr]

nah im talking about the trident

[fading dove]

22~1

[thin canyon]

bullsh-

finally

[hollow river]

whats best modifier for melee

[thin canyon]

literally

legendary

some only reached to godly

[hollow river]

sorry i meant for equps

[thin canyon]

depends
mostly i just went for lucky

and warding

summoner will be menancing instead of lucky

[hollow river]

what does lucky add

[thin canyon]

crit chance

[hollow river]

lit

[fading dove]

warding is best

lets you be more aggressive

[half nest]

avalanche tank build vs destroyer who would win

spoiler

i won

[wicked creek]

Warding is the strongest (because defensive builds are busted)

Lucky does the most damage (up until a certain point at least, like 90%+ crit chance)

Me personally I am a lucky gamer because who needs tanking when I can dodge (or die trying)

[gloomy wedge]

almost died to a jungle mimic AGAIN

this enemy is demonic

[raven vapor]

maso mutant being able to destroy you , even while fighting with SOE and true mutant armour will always be funny for me

[fading dove]

masoleg mutant is designed to win boss vs boss scenarios 🥰

[half nest]

its perfect

[raven vapor]

or like am i supposed to stack the SOE components with each other

[half nest]

ccr is just a professional shitpost

they should totally add astral pearl to base calamity

[fading dove]

are you fighting enraged maso mutant because you should be nearly untouchable with mutant eye

[raven vapor]

i have no idea

apparently not

i survive almost flawlessly until the death laser phase

[thin canyon]

Dead

[raven vapor]

polterghast is like the worst

good job

[thin canyon]

3 attempts

i love the gambling gun

[raven vapor]

what the fuck i made it all the way through and that fucking hornet killed me

[gloomy wedge]

anything to change for queen slime on edeath

[wicked creek]

Ok look last time you said it was because you were using sand gun, and I understood

But why tf do you have so many torches on your arena NOW

[gloomy wedge]

habit

[wicked creek]

You are a psychopath

[gloomy wedge]

i already worked on my One Good Build

im allowed to make things ugly now

[smoky dock]

that has more than one decorative object

it is immediately better than like, at least forty percent of the stuff here

[gloomy wedge]

fun fight but my god is bulk broken against this boss

[wicked creek]

Warding is the most broken setup in general

[gloomy wedge]

next up is cryogen

[cedar ridge]

guys

is there a mod to make npcs invincible

[gloomy wedge]

yes

town npcs dont die is the name iirc

[elder nebula]

friendly npcs don't die

[cedar ridge]

but then nothing will die because I have no opps

[half nest]

is ccr considered malware to a point

why does it know so much

why can it do so much to

it knew i was on discord

[scarlet shadow]

is this setup good for infernum dog?

[half nest]

it send me to the calamity paint

[elder nebula]

it's a shitpost

overhaul is malware

[half nest]

wait wha

how is it malware?

[elder nebula]

calamity overhaul?

[half nest]

oh

[elder nebula]

check pins

[wicked creek]

Honestly I'd probably use wings over tracers

And absorber or ambrosial Ampoule over deific amulet

[half nest]

what does it do

[elder nebula]

check pins

[half nest]

how is it considered malware

it just seems scummy

[elder nebula]

it bricks your save files

[half nest]

i mean

that isnt really malware

thats just a really bad mod

[elder nebula]

it's intentional

malware literally means "malicious software"

which overhaul is

[scarlet shadow]

o alr i'll try these out

[queen isle]

not exactly because the devs technically didn't intend for it to be buggy as shit that's just a side effect of not great coding and stolen assets

if you don't think intent matters then yes it is effectively malware

[half nest]

why does it brick your save

and how

does it just do that to random people

[elder nebula]

it corrupts your files if you try to uninstall it

[half nest]

thats just

great

[elder nebula]

mhm

[smoky dock]

ccr is fine as far as I know
calamity overhaul is not

[fast nacelle]

Calamity overhaul more like

Calamity

Wet fart

Haul

If I were to do a theoretical boss roulette playthrough should i do infernum or Fargos dlc

[half nest]

were rich!!!

whats special about the 13 chloraphyte storm bows

[dense breach]

Hey got a question: in infernum where does the ball o fugu spawn??

[half nest]

uh

best bet

is fishing

[fast nacelle]

Craftable iirc

But uhhh

Go check infernum wiki

Or something in pins

[wicked creek]

You craft it

In general all abyss chest drops are crafted, obtained from enemy drops, caught as critters, or found in the world

[fast nacelle]

Ya

Isn’t the only found item iron boots

[wicked creek]

Terminus technically is also found in the world

[fast nacelle]

Threat

[fading dove]

and siren's pearl

[eager loom]

what does the frostblessed seedling do in wrath of the gods?

[fading dove]

get planted

eventually blossom

[thin canyon]

You are dead

[nimble wing]

calamity underhaul

[nimble wing]

It's a surprise tool that will help us later!

[gloomy wedge]

this feels like the best mix of bulk and mobility available to me

[nimble wing]

ursa sergeant and amalg brain? certainly

[limber osprey]

Me when i'm in a stupid stinkiest person competition and my opponent is the person who designed infernum skeletron

[nimble wing]

[nimble wing]

https://youtu.be/H60luEuUZNg?si=adPADiT5hR-RGqF6

[humble marlin]

when the mixed is bag

[tiny tinsel]

theres no way u did skeletron true mellee no hit

[limber osprey]

Well huess what he's STUPID

[fervent nimbus]

any idea why he aint spawnin?

[nimble wing]

yeah, about that

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcrllMaAqMsDkO17jwdpxuk5h-_V115au&si=E0Xo80hZtuoM8FW5

[fervent nimbus]

show me ur hours rn

what is it

2k

3k

5k

10k

20k?!

[nimble wing]

that's a lot of Ks

[fervent nimbus]

thats a reasoanble amount of ks for this accomplishment

[fervent nimbus]

knew it

[tiny tinsel]

what level of sigma do i have to be to do this?

[nimble wing]

i have better games why don't i burn my time on those

[fervent nimbus]

i wouldnt use sigma

theres a title for his people

[opal lotus]

best pre polterghast summon?

[nimble wing]

it's AuDHD

[tiny tinsel]

are u playing infernum?

[nimble wing]

vanguard, dazzling stabber, stellar torus? iirc? also try speccing into sentry slots a little and add guidelight

[opal lotus]

fargos dlc

eternity death

[floral epoch]

that not surprising tbh

[tiny tinsel]

u could go dragon blood, dazzling stabber, king of constellations

[tiny tinsel]

depends what u like more tbh

[woven rune]

swear he's fun when you get the hang of it

probably my favorite pre-hm fight

[fading dove]

inf skeletron is an exam with a single question

[light gulch]

Am I missing something important trying to fight Skeletron? I've got full warding but even then I still get shredded

Infernum btw

[tiny tinsel]

what class are u?

[fading dove]

all vanilla accessories

also thorium

[woven rune]

Balloons -> Fledgling Wings imo
Shield of Cthulhu isn't necessarily needed since you have default dash

So swap either that or Worm Scarf for Bloody Worm Tooth

[fading dove]

bundle gives big mobility for when you need it

[woven rune]

Big boost of speed yeah but the movement isn't as precise as wings

[light gulch]

Melee
Currently using Goldplume Spear, though I've never really played melee as a class before this run so I don't know the weapons

[limber osprey]

That's becayse you'te stupid

[woven rune]

I love wings for that one section where he stays away from you and shoots a spread of skulls

[limber osprey]

!!!!!!

[woven rune]

or cause I've practiced the boss and know how to beat him lmao

[woven rune]

Goldplume is pretty solid if you can aim it

[tiny tinsel]

make the broken biome blade

[woven rune]

If you want a braindead homing option there's always Bladecrest Oathsword

less DPS but you don't have to think

[fading dove]

bladecrest sucks though

[woven rune]

ik

[fading dove]

its a tier outclassed and is already just okay on tier

[barren zephyr]

elysian tracers over elysian wings?

[fading dove]

don't even get the chip damage from on fire

no

silva wings

[woven rune]

Wings > Tracers for like

[light gulch]

I probably need the braindead option since I've noticed that aiming and dodging at the same time is something I struggle with

[woven rune]

every stage of the game 😭

[barren zephyr]

why are boots so bad in cal

[fading dove]

tip: starboard is better than elysian tracers

[woven rune]

boots aren't even bad its just that like

aerial mobility >> ground mobility later on

[tiny tinsel]

make broken biome blade if u are melee build

[barren zephyr]

so they are bad

[woven rune]

does Abyssal Amulet work on him

[fading dove]

skeletron is immune to debuffs

[woven rune]

word

[tiny tinsel]

probably the easiest

[barren zephyr]

the easiest is definitely melee

[limber osprey]

HE"# FEAD

[barren zephyr]

same

[limber osprey]

YAY!!!!

[tiny tinsel]

skeletrons last phase is the easeiest

[limber osprey]

Btw chat after skeletron died there was a quake

[gleaming elm]

solyns tent got blasted away by the astral infection, is it neccesary for progression? and if yes how do i get it back if possible

[limber osprey]

What was thst ab

[tiny tinsel]

yes u need for progression thats how u fight the last crazy ass bosses towards the end idk how to get it back tho

[gleaming elm]

bruh

[nimble wing]

all i can say is slow down

if you're ever having trouble with any enemy in any game, the first thing you try is moving less

[woven rune]

sounds like such a dumb tip (cause it probably is) but looking at the attacks helps so much

before i started playing infernum i had this habit of kinda auto piloting through attacks and not really thinking about how im dodging and it worked well enough

[barren zephyr]

skeletron differs from everyone else is that he plays less like a terraria boss and more like an undertale boss

[tiny tinsel]

ngl the only part where u should be actively moving is when he rushes u with his head

[barren zephyr]

hes your checkpoint into the rest of the game

[woven rune]

so many attacks in infernum are way easier if you just have a general idea of where you are and focus on looking at a boss's attacks

[nimble wing]

neither terraria bosses nor fabsol bosses ever really ask you to switch to manual pilot

[woven rune]

real lol

[barren zephyr]

beating him is the game's way of showing you what to expect

[nimble wing]

so people just don't learn to think and infernum catches them off guard

[woven rune]

basically yeah

[barren zephyr]

if only infernum was good

[woven rune]

even the hardest bosses just require you to learn and think

[nimble wing]

🚬

[woven rune]

DoG's my favorite example

brutally difficult until it finally clicks

[barren zephyr]

what 😭

[woven rune]

then its free

[nimble wing]

...or they're goozma

[barren zephyr]

dog is buns

[nimble wing]

but generally yes you can learn hard bosses

[barren zephyr]

easily the worst boss in the mod

[light gulch]

Any suggestions as to what attunements are best?

[woven rune]

once it does you can do shit like this 😭
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkCX8mUl7TE

[woven rune]

0/10 rage-bait

[nimble wing]

dog is buns according to you and i will not attempt to change your opinion

[barren zephyr]

dude

[woven rune]

most iconic Infernum fight 😭

[nimble wing]

just remember it's an opinion

[light gulch]

I'll admit I didn't think to use biome blade

[nimble wing]

dog is the most iconic infernum boss but only because he has terrible PR

[barren zephyr]

i beat him in 602 attempts

my second most highest attempt count is providence at 72

[little steppe]

inf dog is mid

[barren zephyr]

i dont know what yall see in dog

[little steppe]

infinitely better than base dog

but still mid

[woven rune]

fun movement, beautiful visuals, amazing soundtrack

[nimble wing]

the bar is in the core of the earth

[woven rune]

actually feels fair as well

[barren zephyr]

i dont think

[little steppe]

the bar is the lowest you have seen

[barren zephyr]

getting one shot regularly is

[nimble wing]

soundtrack doesn't count i think

[barren zephyr]

fair

[little steppe]

beacuse base dog sucks really bad

[barren zephyr]

neither do visuals

[woven rune]

only attack that one-shots you is the head and that's only if your defense is shit

[fading dove]

^

[woven rune]

if you're getting hit by the head you deserve to lose

[barren zephyr]

dog is carried by nostalgia

[woven rune]

cause that's the entire point of the fight

[nimble wing]

people are allowed to like visuals but i'll agree they're not the best reason to like a fight

[barren zephyr]

how do i not get hit by the head

[woven rune]

ram dash

lol

[fading dove]

with sealocket, you can comfortably tank the head without life fruit

[barren zephyr]

when he turns faster than my dash can proc

litearlly

[woven rune]

^

and/or Amalgamated Brain

gives you a free hit

just don't waste it on the lasers

[fading dove]

this is from experience

[barren zephyr]

the lasers are literally filler

[nimble wing]

if dog is dashing faster than you can ram you're leading him wrong

[fading dove]

it was also with no warding and nebula armour

[nimble wing]

he's all about control

[barren zephyr]

and add nothing to the fight

[woven rune]

he doesn't

your movement is wrong

[barren zephyr]

i spam e and he still manages to hit me with head

[fading dove]

https://youtu.be/5YJHNQBxylM

[woven rune]

I'm guessing this is happening when he's vertically charging you

You have to move up and down a little bit to give yourself a little more time for the ram dash to recharge

[barren zephyr]

i do that

[nimble wing]

you can still make this slower btw

don't kill your momentum with every ram

[woven rune]

true its just more fun to do it quickly lol

[woven rune]

you'd have to show me an attempt but its almost certainly just a movement issue

you can do it consistently even with the shitty Asgard's Valor ram dash lol

[barren zephyr]

i did beat it

but im now permanently broken

[nimble wing]

infernum dog is inordinately hard to learn, i will definitely give anyone that, but i at least find him fair and fun to master

[barren zephyr]

by this mf

[nimble wing]

also i don't really like talking about him because he's the world's deadest horse

[woven rune]

he's so fun to master

[barren zephyr]

he would've been fun to master if you could skip p1

[woven rune]

you basically can

[barren zephyr]

i had no fun repeating that slowass sequence

[woven rune]

coil him with a true melee weapon

[nimble wing]

p1 can be made very short anyway, yeah

[woven rune]

spawn him in -> charge opposite direction and fall down -> coil -> shred with Stellar Striker

[gloomy wedge]

OH FUCK

[woven rune]

takes like 15 seconds

[fading dove]

true i can kill him weaponless before the first lasers show up

[fading dove]

This prison?

[barren zephyr]

interesting arena

[woven rune]

whenever I get bored of an actual run I just load up this one world and fight DoG over and over again with stupid challenges

pre-ML gear, weaponless, 10x hp, etc

[gloomy wedge]

you cant say its not bright

[barren zephyr]

wait i lied my second highest attempt count belongs to skeletron not providence

[nimble wing]

you've heard of verticals and horizontals, now get ready for:

• diagonals
• temporary coils
• loops
• turnarounds
• phosphorescent gauntlet

[fading dove]

what was the hardest one youve done

[nimble wing]

styling on him is really useful to save arena space too

[snow sun]

I need to kill abom

[gloomy wedge]

now that is a cool ass boss fight

[little steppe]

go kill him then

[woven rune]

I'm gonna be so deadass most of them are like the same difficulty just different times

[gloomy wedge]

edeath is HITTING with these cal bosses

[nimble wing]

want to change direction? start a diagonal or go around him

[gloomy wedge]

ds and slime god are kinda whatever

but like perfs and cryogen are REALLY good

[snow sun]

FR!

[woven rune]

cause once you learn all the strats (especially the cheese ones) its basically the same thing

[nimble wing]

thank you javyz and shipmans agla

[barren zephyr]

i feel like dog is just too demanding in technical skill

[snow sun]

I mostly like Edeath slime god cause it genuinely surprised me

[barren zephyr]

for me anyway

[gloomy wedge]

kelvin catalyst is busted right

[nimble wing]

yeah we're not keen on slime god either; it's being held off for major changes until it gets an official redesign

[woven rune]

are you on double tap dash?

[barren zephyr]

i bound it to e

[fading dove]

destroyer has colossal pierce resist so its probably not gonna be too great

[woven rune]

ah right

[gloomy wedge]

i'm not going for destroyer first mech

i want to do this in boss checklist order as a kinda soft challenge

[woven rune]

slagsplitter cheese

[barren zephyr]

and honestly i wouldve bound it to q too

[woven rune]

😁

[fading dove]

better yet

[gloomy wedge]

so next up is banished baron

i really hope hes the same as eternity

[barren zephyr]

just so i could dash easier when im going left

[fading dove]

all mechs and mech alts with pre mech gear

[barren zephyr]

but game doesnt allow that unfort

[gloomy wedge]

i am on hardcore aint no way

[fervent nimbus]

nothin is happening

[woven rune]

did this on a hardcore run a while back

[little steppe]

are you in maso or something

[woven rune]

slagsplitter makes him so free 😭

[fading dove]

twins are probably the hardest

[gloomy wedge]

no i just played regular eternity

[fading dove]

is this with eternity's pierce resist active

[gloomy wedge]

and im really scared of this fight

[woven rune]

nope

[barren zephyr]

wtff

[little steppe]

fargo bosses doesnt have death changes

[fading dove]

they do

[little steppe]

huh

[fading dove]

wait

[barren zephyr]

they're the easiest

[fading dove]

nvm

[barren zephyr]

by far

[nimble wing]

dlc only changes calamity bosses

[fading dove]

prime is right there

[little steppe]

and adds some attacks to vanilla bosses iirc

[gloomy wedge]

i know vanilla bosses usually have some subtle changes

[woven rune]

Inf Prime is so free 😭

[nimble wing]

one of the difficulty combos, i forget which, occasionally adds rev+ changes to vanilla bosses

[fading dove]

we're talking eternity

[gloomy wedge]

a bit disappointing but, the emode fights are still great fun

[woven rune]

oh mb

[fading dove]

eternity death

[little steppe]

eternity prime is also free anyways

[fading dove]

the cal inspired changes aren't on eternity rev

[little steppe]

nekomini carry

[nimble wing]

challengers are actually goated

(trojan, coffin, baron, lifelight)

[snow sun]

I really need to kill abom, BUT HE REFUSES TO FUCKING DIE! I can get him to deathray but that’s it

[fading dove]

yeah abom's tanky

[nimble wing]

what deathray, the styx gazer swings?

[snow sun]

No, when he flies to a side and fires big ass lasers behind him

[fading dove]

deathray run 🤤

[nimble wing]

oh the minefield chase one

that one is really fun yeah

[snow sun]

Any changes to my accessories I should make?

[nimble wing]

swap to normal auric armor, and absorber for rampart

[fading dove]

flight mastery has better mobility than force of life if that's the issue

[snow sun]

Aye aye.

[snow sun]

Actually force is the reason i can get to that phase

[nimble wing]

force of life is a bit slower and doesn't have infinite (although mastery might not have infinite in dlc anyway), but it has very good bonuses

[fading dove]

fms still has inf flight so you won't have to keep track of platforms or bee flowers

[gloomy wedge]

wasnt this weapon good on scal for a bit there

[snow sun]

It just has worse flight stats vs non souls bosses

I have warding on everything now

[gloomy wedge]

so is there a method to using kelvin catalyst or do i just kinda

use it

[light gulch]

So, experimentally
Broken Biome Blade doesn't really help against Skeletron from what I can tell
Grovetender's and Pure attunements just don't deal nearly as much dps as Goldplume and honestly seem riskier
Decay is theoretically good if I can pogo on him well but it's even more of a risk, and the other two attunements have the same problem of being way too risky to be viable at my skill level

[nimble wing]

evil and desert are good for when it spins

[gloomy wedge]

if you want a skeletron shredder, just use summoner

vile feeder + snapthorn, youre good to go

slap on some bee armor

[nimble wing]

goldplume is meta because it had its velocity hyperinflated to keep up with 2.0.4 skeletron 😊

[limber osprey]

Chat

What change was added to abbyss infernum

[gloomy wedge]

completely overhauled

[limber osprey]

Specifically post skel

[nimble wing]

uhh Yes

[gloomy wedge]

there are no more abyss chests

[limber osprey]

Drats

But you can still get the weapons

By crafting

Ig that's cool

[nimble wing]

generation reworked, majority of enemies reworked, all gear has a new obtainment method

four things have unique obtainment but the rest are crafted

[limber osprey]

So whats the point of it now

Craft the stuff?

Weapons mainly

[nimble wing]

craft most of it, yeah

[limber osprey]

Awesome

Speaking of which

I got depth crushe

[nimble wing]

i guess they just didn't have obtainment ideas for everything at the time

[limber osprey]

Is tgat mean to be post skel?

[nimble wing]

yes

[limber osprey]

Sigma

[snow sun]

HE WAS ON ONE PERCENT

I swapped my candle buff to spiteful, AND ALMOST KILLED HIM

[half nest]

infernum is so easy (this is calamites clone)

I CAST ALVALANCHE BEING STUPID OP

[nimble wing]

sooo is that an infernum issue or an avalanche issue

or a this infernum boss in particular issue

[half nest]

avalanche just shreds bosses

plantera

[thin canyon]

does calamitas clone look like a construct or a human

or the damage calculation is funny

[half nest]

its probably bc of ccr and the astral pearl

causing uh

homing avalanche

shards

[snow sun]

FUCKING!
FINALLY!

[dense eagle]

definitely you have smth from other mod making it giga op

[half nest]

astral peal

[rapid snow]

??? just wont spawn in multiplayer with my friends with infernum

[dense eagle]

there is item to force it to spawn

[rapid snow]

i am still pre moon lord

so i cant get the solar thingy

[dense eagle]

wha

[light gulch]

should I just stop trying with Skeletron and go for something like Queen Bee/Slime God? (I'm playing Melee btw)

[dense eagle]

ml shouldnt matter

are you sure its post ml?

[rapid snow]

actually

i checked the boss checklist

and anahita doesnt have a spawner

what

[dense eagle]

https://infernummod.wiki.gg/wiki/Leviathan_Detector

[rapid snow]

oh

[dense eagle]

cuz it doesnt know about the infernum item

infernum adds summoning items for certain bosses

[rapid snow]

a

[rapid snow]

oh okay

i was looking at another boss spawner

lol

thanks

[barren zephyr]

are almost all draedon arsenal weapons supposed to be dogshit

[queen isle]

no

[waxen tide]

no

infact most of them arent

[barren zephyr]

like you cant tell me tesla cannon is

better than omicron

[fading dove]

some weapons are good

some weapons are bad

arsenal weapons are actually pretty balanced

iirc there's no D or E tier ones

[barren zephyr]

did i miss any good mage ones

i just stored every one thinking theyre bad after comparing them to what i already had

[waxen tide]

pretty sure it is

okay its not

[fading dove]

pulse pistol is A
gauss pistol is A
gatling laser is B
plasma caster is A
tesla cannon is C

[hollow river]

mine the flagpole
then place it in other loaction
load back in and out (either go out of screen distance or save and quit)
thats what i did

[barren zephyr]

so its not a matter of them being bad and more a matter of everything else being broken

[fading dove]

pulse pistol, gauss pistol, and plasma caster are all very strong

[gleaming elm]

ill try that ty

[fading dove]

tesla cannon is alright

[hollow river]

yk the sound of silt blocks deleting
it will have that sound if its working

[fading dove]

there's not a single S tier mage weapon after dog

[gleaming elm]

it worked ty

[barren zephyr]

surely scal enchants will save me

[hollow river]

yurrrr
nws brother

[fading dove]

heresy probably eats mutant alive

not mutant

ares

how did i get mutant from ares

[barren zephyr]

yall what is visibility and how do i turn it on

[fading dove]

vanilla mechanic

[waxen tide]

in the accessory slots

[barren zephyr]

oh

that visibility

thx

[snow sun]

EXO MECHS DEAD

[gloomy wedge]

THANKS A LOT PERMAFROST

[fading dove]

a lesson in spacing out npcs

[thin canyon]

what happened

[snow sun]

I hate that ball so much

[thin canyon]

should i

also install calamity entropy for my Summon and Rouge infernum run ?

[crystal carbon]

what's a good post golem ranger weapon
golem took 9 minutes to kill all my current ones suck

[near wyvern]

what dragon drizzlefish user to fire?

[fading dove]

arc nova diffuser

[fading dove]

its a flamethrower, gel

[near wyvern]

ty

[crystal carbon]

ty
magna cannon was the goat prehardmode it comes back lessgo

[thin canyon]

imagine
a mod that revamp the entire Dog fight

[barren zephyr]

how is yharon so much easier than dog 😭

[thin canyon]

Devourer's Annihilation

[barren zephyr]

ts not funny

[thin canyon]

we already had wrath of the machines that make the exo much more fun

[fading dove]

fargo's souls dlc a third time

[thin canyon]

i should try like making a concept of a revamped dog fight

since i am bored

[rugged kindle]

you should

it would be cool

[thin canyon]

and absolutely rework his entire attacks

+vfx

and maybe make it much more suffering while having the damage lowered down

[barren zephyr]

are yharon mage weapons better or is voltaic climax good enough for scal

[thin canyon]

just use subsuming vortex-

(aka had to kill exo first)

[barren zephyr]

nah i want to try scal enchants for once

[honest yacht]

how do i get the mystery painting item from calamity vanities?

[fading dove]

oracle's divination

[fading dove]

illusioner's reverie

[snow sun]

Okay, scal down…now i just have to

• Kill Goozma
• Make a fuckton of accessories
• Kill Mutant
  …I feel like crying.

[barren zephyr]

scared of doing eternity because of the infernal crafting trees

[fading dove]

theyre easy

its not like you do everything at once

[snow sun]

My main reason is that I have to somehow throw an overloaded sludge onto the king without him dying in 5 seconds

[barren zephyr]

that doesnt sound hard

[fading dove]

use queen slime

[snow sun]

Okay

[white dagger]

how beat Moon lord

infernum master

I'll send a video

[humble marlin]

i just cheat in the spawn item for goozma

the fight is too annoying to be worth the trouble with the regular summon ritual

[thin canyon]

[white dagger]

This is like how 90% of my fights go

[fading dove]

i dont even bother with that and just spawn the boss with dragonlens

[white dagger]

(I forgot to switch to chlorophyte instead of bubonic)

[white dagger]

either that or I die in the first 30 seconds due to being comboed

[fading dove]

nano is better due to smart bounce

[white dagger]

does it work on platforms?

[fading dove]

it works on blocks

and you're locked in a box of them

[white dagger]

ah

I can't dodge anything though

I die way too fast

[snow sun]

Okay Goozma down. And I’ve made most accessories. Only question is….how do I fill these last 2 slots

[fading dove]

shattered community and sparkling adoration

[white dagger]

also I dont understand the moon bite debuff

[fading dove]

disables lifesteal

[white dagger]

it feels like it's permanently on

[fading dove]

iirc its while the tongue is attached and for 15 seconds after

[little steppe]

yeah I think

[white dagger]

and on infernum thats basically every 20 seconds

[snow sun]

Aye aye captain

[barren zephyr]

remember when winged slime could outrun ml's tongue

[white dagger]

like the main thing that deals damage is the top-eye firing stuff

it's extremely random

you can't run away too hard else a stray will hit you

[barren zephyr]

why are you doing so little dmg

is this a challenge thing

[white dagger]

well #1 I used the wrong bullets in that clip

#2 I'm doing infernum master mode

[barren zephyr]

why are you doing that to yourself

[white dagger]

oh I got to the second phase

Also I can make the projectiles more visible by disabling omniscience (I did that already) whoops

that helps a lot

[snow sun]

Oh. He throws Calamity Bosses at you too. That’s FUN

[white dagger]

oh finally, I got to the last phase, I think I can beat this

43%

[snow sun]

Boutta do mars

[tawdry birch]

for wrath of the gods how do you pick up the fancy rope set

the placement is weird for them its hard to do just one string

[snow sun]

I’m gonna make my hardmode boss museum before fighting mutant again

[frail brook]

Is 300 tries for master infernum profaned guardians bad

[frail brook]

On the attack right after the 8 lasers of you go inside of his eye in his head you won't take damage because the projectiles appear a bit outside of the eye

[wicked creek]

Nope, they're hard

And remember, no amount of tries is bad as long as the boss dies

[frail brook]

Thx

[opal lotus]

any changes yall recommend for post poltergast

[white dagger]

wdym

what attack

[frail brook]

The 8 lasers in first phase

He does it 3 times

[white dagger]

this?

[frail brook]

Yes that

[white dagger]

you can stand in the white area?

[frail brook]

After that attack he shoots mini lasers from his eye

But they start slightly out of the eye so you can stand in the yee

Eue

Eye

Trust I did it recentlt

[white dagger]

I still don't understand

[white dagger]

I stood in the middle and died

unless you mean the attack just after the end of that

aka the first ever attack he does

[half nest]

i am not getting ANY side gars

for ccr

[white dagger]

bruh

I hate moon lord last phase

there are so many projectiles it becomes a race against the clock

I got 47% on core 4 times already

[half nest]

where are the side gars??

WHERE???

[wild seal]

if you have trouble against moon lord you could download catalyst mod to fight astrageldon slime, who i find easier

[white dagger]

yeah I can enter last phase (core) at full hp

and no matter what I always die at 50% core

[pure lance]

im gonna lose my mind

[white dagger]

I can't dodge shit there

[pure lance]

why is ranger infernum harder than true melee infernum

how do i kill scal

[white dagger]

slime mount infinite iframe

[pure lance]

i have slime mount

[white dagger]

im joking

[pure lance]

no its good

faster fall is clutche for her multi laster attack

[wild seal]

ranger or melee?

[half nest]

oh

[pure lance]

ranger

[half nest]

i wasnt fully in space

[white dagger]

is the queen saddle or regular saddle better?

do they fall at the same speed?

[pure lance]

idk

[white dagger]

etc

[pure lance]

i jus use reg because

literally the only ranger weapon that does DECENT dmg is tyrannys end

and snipers are pain to aim

[wild seal]

what about kingsbane?

[pure lance]

kingsbane was just bad

[wild seal]

😦

[pure lance]

even with slayer slugs

not to mention im so squishy

which would be fine if i had glass cannon dmg

[wild seal]

well whats accesories are you using?

try chicken cannon

photoviscerator

heavenly gale

[sturdy cloak]

hey guys ive been playing wrath of the gods and i just beat ||avatar of emptiness|| and when i get to the ||paridise|| part it teleports me to a random place in the cavern layer and barely works

its very annoying

[white dagger]

already 8 times now

I always die at 50% core

[tired harness]

Someone Wanna play calamity infernum whit me?

[polar bolt]

whats thorium

[polar bolt]

sure

depends though

we will need the same addons

[tired harness]

Ik

[tired harness]

Is a mod like calamity

[white dagger]

GGGGG

still was shorter than skeletron

huh

why did I not get a celestial onion?

oh

does nothing in master mode

[misty steppe]

Holy shit this exo mech fight is terrible

[elder nebula]

yeah it just enables the master accessory slot

[stray lily]

infernum brothers 3rd phase is undodgeable bro

[elder nebula]

shadow or scal?

[stray lily]

scal

[fading dove]

they usually die by the end of the second attack

[white dagger]

erm

how do I delete some stuff I accidentally put into the profaned garden

I tried cheat sheeting in a crystyl crusher but it gets stopped

[stray lily]

i dont think my kt is bad

[fading dove]

desp is another 55 seconds

[stray lily]

scal desp

lowk seems easy

[fading dove]

the last 10 seconds are nothing

not an exaggeration she literally just does nothing

[stray lily]

99% of my deaths are

during brotghers

or the second death beam

[limber ridge]

looking through the spirit wiki

it adds just enough summoner weapons to make summoner viable but not too much to make it feel overwhelming and a waste of weapons (calamity/thorium)

[smoky dock]

huh

wdym 'make summoner viable', do you not think it was viable without spirit mod?

[limber ridge]

vanilla summoner is not viable

i also just realized i said this in the wrong channel (sorry)