calamity-addon-talk

[gloomy wedge]

Again, haven’t beat eow

[uneven dune]

Oh EATER or hive mind

damn

[gloomy wedge]

I’m going in boss checklist order here

[quiet ice]

concerning

[waxen tide]

coffin is pre evil boss so yeah

[quiet ice]

can you show me your entire build

and dps numbers before and after swapping

[uneven dune]

wait hold on

this is the dps

with

and when i swap out gelatin with

[quiet ice]

yeah but what weapon and armor

[uneven dune]

orichalcum enchantment

adamantite armor and shadowflame knife

[quiet ice]

hm

do you have a mod list the size of texas or no

[uneven dune]

i dont think it's counting the poison dmg

[quiet ice]

orichalcum is a decent enchant but

[uneven dune]

its showing the same dps

but when i switched to orichalcum vs skeletron prime

i was doing way more damage than before

[quiet ice]

ah

[uneven dune]

why'd you get so sus of the dmg all of the sudden tho

[quiet ice]

making sure you have DLC actually enabled right

[quiet ice]

if something is broken about fargo’s and i see it, it becomes my problem

[uneven dune]

you are a fargo's dev?

[quiet ice]

close enough

[uneven dune]

that's cool

[quiet ice]

orichalcum ench generally increases DoT

how long did the fight take exactly?

[uneven dune]

does the dps meter not track DoT that well

[quiet ice]

and what kind of damage ticks are we talking

[uneven dune]

was about 3 minutes

it was like

[quiet ice]

it doesn’t

[uneven dune]

doing

[snow sun]

Is this a death mode attack?

[uneven dune]

Rapid instances of 7 dmg

and 11 sometimes

when the flower petals were hitting correctly

[quiet ice]

yeah this is just skeletron prime being weird with hitting the arms

nevermind

[uneven dune]

lol

i think it was because the petals were hitting his head and two of his arms at the same time

good enchantment for him ig

[quiet ice]

could be

any alcohols either?

regardless of alcohol though you’re unintentionally stacking like three DoT things and you’ve made a good build lmao

[uneven dune]

no alcohols but i did have that one

candle

that gives me like

1.07x more dmg

[quiet ice]

SDF shadowflame and oric

[uneven dune]

i think

[quiet ice]

yeah that’s fine

[cedar ridge]

is infernum actually worth trying

[formal dagger]

can someone tell me what in the helly is this

[uneven dune]

with an ichor flask too

[uneven dune]

part of solyn's questline

recommended to leave it alone till you get to that part

i think

[formal dagger]

what stage do i need to be in to go in

[uneven dune]

Post Cryogen

make sure to talk to permafrost after you kill cryogen too

[formal dagger]

im in astrageldon

[uneven dune]

Wha

did you not progress through solyn's questline

[solar badger]

wait is this infernum

[formal dagger]

no

completely forgot

[solar badger]

cause ive never seen this

[formal dagger]

i only talked to her like after skeletron?

[uneven dune]

well you can still do it it's available anytime

[formal dagger]

i forgot

like when she says shes tired

[uneven dune]

ye talk to her again

[formal dagger]

wrath of the gods is what im hearing

[uneven dune]

and everything should be clear from there on

[solar badger]

oh ok

[formal dagger]

alright thanks

[thin canyon]

yes

[livid silo]

on infernum and the terminus isnt even in the abyss its gone wdf do i do

[thin canyon]

uhh

is the world generated before infernum installed ?

[livid silo]

nope

it was there before now its gone

[thin canyon]

search around

quite weird when it just disappear

since it should be stuck at the bottom of the abyss

[livid silo]

yea exactly

ive played the game a couple of times b4 it doesnt just dissapear like this lol

[uneven dune]

its so fun

and funny

[thin canyon]

install dragon lens

since terminus absent from bottom of the abyss is a known issue

[livid silo]

dragon lens? is that a mod

[thin canyon]

yes

https://infernummod.wiki.gg/wiki/Terminus_absence_from_the_Abyss
if you're curious about why

[livid silo]

alr alr thank you

[gloomy wedge]

way more stressful than it probably had to be

[thin canyon]

on god

[gloomy wedge]

now my next fight should be crabulon

[formal dagger]

i have an asus tuf a15, and fargos + calamity still bricking my laptop sometimes

how is that even possible

[thin canyon]

wdym by bricking

[formal dagger]

fps drops

laggy mess

like im playing on a potato laptop

[thin canyon]

expected

don't get it overheated

[formal dagger]

i literally have a 300 dollar cooler underneath it 😔

[thin canyon]

asus entry laptop pretty funny in term of thermal

[thin canyon]

how thr f 300$...

[formal dagger]

my laptop only ever heats up like at graphically intensive games

[thin canyon]

mine only cost.... 60 and it perform really well...

also
send modlist

[formal dagger]

mb gang, was thinking of another thing, its like 60 dollars yeah

[formal dagger]

i also removed like the graphics improving mods like lights and shadows and that rain mod

[smoky dock]

Mine is free, I just place it on a bag of ice

[formal dagger]

hol on

[thin canyon]

those hits the gpu more than the cpu

[thin canyon]

i should put an AC below the laptop

[crystal trellis]

bro why is inf aqua scourge so tuff, im barely scratching him

[waxen tide]

go underwater

[thin canyon]

first phase you have to fight it underwater soo

prep underwater gears and arena

[crystal trellis]

erm, i know, ur not dealing dmg at all on ground

[waxen tide]

what weapon youre usin

[crystal trellis]

shpc

[waxen tide]

understandable

sphc sucks

shpc

[thin canyon]

shpc ?

[crystal trellis]

yes

[crystal trellis]

what do i use then, shadow doll too short, other weapons not dealing any dmg

[thin canyon]

what's that

[formal dagger]

idk if u can read them but idk how else to lsit all of them

i have a lot of mods xd

[thin canyon]

oh

[crystal trellis]

mage weapon

[thin canyon]

that gun

[waxen tide]

how many mechs have you killed

[crystal trellis]

1

[thin canyon]

hmm

[thin canyon]

it

always wrath of the gods

[waxen tide]

snowstorm staff or wyverns call

[thin canyon]

that mod cripple the game performance unfortunately

[waxen tide]

sky fracture prolly too

[formal dagger]

damn fr?

sad, i love their pets

[thin canyon]

yes

[formal dagger]

oh well

thanks bruh

[gloomy wedge]

basic but i like how this relic room idea is turning out tbh

[thin canyon]

your choice

good mod but quite performance hogging

[cedar ridge]

are the catalyst whips balanced

[gloomy wedge]

yes, but vanilla whips arent

so just use those

[cedar ridge]

wdym

[nimble wing]

KILL BOSS CHECKLIST !!!!!

[cedar ridge]

does catalyst add post ml whips?

[gloomy wedge]

doesnt matter how good any catalyst whips are, kscope and morning star are just

better

[cedar ridge]

what does catalyst add besides whips and astrageldon

[gloomy wedge]

in every way

[formal dagger]

why

[cedar ridge]

damn

[nimble wing]

in general that is quite a lot of mods so i think something is bound to happen

[waxen tide]

flamethrowers

[formal dagger]

some of the best weapons i have ever seen in modded terraria

[cedar ridge]

damn

[formal dagger]

and also my favourite boss fight

[gloomy wedge]

ok geldon isnt THAT good

[cedar ridge]

is there other bosses?

[gloomy wedge]

like its a pretty good fight but

[worn grove]

Guys help me out pls

[formal dagger]

to each their own

[gloomy wedge]

i think inf scal/provi/guardians are a lot better

[cedar ridge]

goozma and the boss before nameless are the best fights ive ever seen

[worn grove]

My tmodloader keeps crashing when i boot it up

[gloomy wedge]

aoe?

[thin canyon]

its ya boy
goozma

[cedar ridge]

well

[gloomy wedge]

aoe is just too easy for me honestly

[thin canyon]

the
log

[cedar ridge]

they are better fihts

but visually

im talking

[gloomy wedge]

visually its very clearly nameless imo

[worn grove]

Exactly at finalizing wrath of the gods

[gloomy wedge]

or anything from starlight river

[formal dagger]

i also agree with goozma

damn slime bosses are like my favs lol

[nimble wing]

boss checklist is historically known to cause a range of serious issues for no known reason, namely unchecking boss bools at random

[cedar ridge]

goozma is so underrated

[nimble wing]

get boss checklist lite

[gloomy wedge]

i like goozma since its a boss that isnt afraid to be kinda goofy and/or silly

[thin canyon]

send log
and cancel mod loading when the game started

and also
modlist

[gloomy wedge]

the fight itself, yeah it could use some work

takes way too long imo

[formal dagger]

ehh, hmm i think the pros undermine the cons, i dont think itd really affect game performance that much?

[nimble wing]

i can't care about goozma because it's unfair

simple as that

[formal dagger]

its lite i think wait

[worn grove]

Uh how do i scroll down in the modlist

[nimble wing]

i only saw the original on your list

[formal dagger]

facts, like its so much harder than scal and draedon, and the weapons from him are arguably worse

[nimble wing]

but i might have missed it because you were scrolling Really fast

[thin canyon]

iirc there is a mod listing button

not on pc so can't remember

[formal dagger]

it is the original boss checklist

[gloomy wedge]

speaking of draedon

[formal dagger]

i didnt know there wa sa lite

wait

[gloomy wedge]

infernum exos

what do we think of them

[smoky dock]

peem

[nimble wing]

infernum exos are like the most mixed bag ever

[thin canyon]

pretty normal

[formal dagger]

i hate ram dashing

[thin canyon]

why

ramdash is fun

[gloomy wedge]

because personally speaking

[formal dagger]

its fun but my brain literally will not remove the double tap dash

so its so much harder

[nimble wing]

i should make tier lists of every individual infernum attack

[thin canyon]

me using override

and tbf i don't use the brain

also

wotm somehow feels

[formal dagger]

oh so there is a boss checklist lite

[thin canyon]

idk
exo on steroid but not as hard as people think ?

[formal dagger]

js not one made by jopojelly

[gloomy wedge]

i havent done wotm so i cant give any thoughts on it

[thin canyon]

had done it 7749 times

even done on tmelee only

but the vfx and the speed

[nimble wing]

boss checklist bugs stem mostly if not entirely from its unnecessary extra features

[thin canyon]

very hot

[nimble wing]

lite is just the list part and nothing else

[worn grove]

Alr it worked ty man

[gloomy wedge]

actually fuck it, inf tier list based on how fun i think they are

[nimble wing]

lite also pretends to be the original internally if you still have the original, but why would you do that

[formal dagger]

i already forgot most of infernum bosses 🥀

[thin canyon]

i still don't know how

[formal dagger]

i literally will not fight Dog again

[thin canyon]

i didn't struggle on infer old duke

[gloomy wedge]

i didnt struggle on him that much

i think it took like 5 attempts or so

[thin canyon]

i just ramdash to win

on melee

[gloomy wedge]

honestly the bosses i struggled with most are the ones that are highest up

scal, provi, guardians, dog, ml

[thin canyon]

i only have the most

[formal dagger]

wasnt there a strat for DoG where he js circles you

[thin canyon]

struggle on dog

[thin canyon]

yes

his weakness on all phases

except when he teleram you

(you gotta love it when his 6th attack delayed tele ram time to mess your dash up)

[thin canyon]

idk why

providences took me like

2 tries

...

guardians around 30

moonlord was 20?

scal was 50

[formal dagger]

took me like 60 tries on DoG unfortunately, made me dislike infernum, probably js isnt for me

[thin canyon]

(since i was using the wrong armor for the fight)

idk why i used gem tech when was doing melee only run

only used like 1/4 or 1/3 of the armor capability

[formal dagger]

the one hit and ur dead is the only thing keeping me away from infernum, the rest of the mod i genuinely enjoyed, like they added some cool content

[thin canyon]

60 is fines

it took me like

[formal dagger]

not for my mental health sadly

[thin canyon]

over 130 attempts

on tmelee

[formal dagger]

i would not subject myself to true melee 🫡

[thin canyon]

true melee is the way to go if you want to melt him

but you are very fragile when he uses tele ram

you can at most like

tank 2-3 hits

[formal dagger]

yes watching others playing tmelee on infernum is fun unironically

[thin canyon]

since you can just

skip his first 2 phases like nothing

[gloomy wedge]

why does magic storage hate it so much when i try to craft platforms

[thin canyon]

there is no point going for defenses build on dog since he can just 2-3 shots you

so glass canon go go!!!

[smoky dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893924166925955104/1268262256693612554/trueMeleeLocket.gif

true melee mentioned

[smoky dock]

also uhhhh this isn’t very good advice, I don’t think

[thin canyon]

i tried defense build

can only well

tank another hit before dying

[gloomy wedge]

how good is nekhakha as a whip

[nimble wing]

defense doesn't have to be about how many hits you can take in a row

[gloomy wedge]

and would it be better on crabulon than rogue

[nimble wing]

less damage per hit = recover health faster = can take another hit sooner

[smoky dock]

Defense is also about how quickly you can recover

[thin canyon]

hmm

fair

[smoky dock]

Without the silliest cheese, DoG can pretty much always kill you in two hits with the head in a row, but it’s possible to take three or four or more if you have enough time between them

[nimble wing]

it probably becomes naturally less relevant post-ml, because defense is naturally less strong the more damage a hit deals

and infernum dog is really easy to melt most times

definitely still useful anyway

[rugged token]

did u ever find a fix to this

[thin canyon]

ig just because i kept making him to spin around to melt sooo yea

i still don't know how

[wispy scaffold]

Why do I keep imagining the infernum version of calclone as having a katana? I have no idea where this came from, but I can't imagine her any other way.

[smoky dock]

Fat strats don’t mean you can’t deal a ton of damage

[thin canyon]

the arena i build for astrum aureus has been used for almost the rest of the game

[smoky dock]

Setups that have a ton of survivability can still totally have a ton of damage

[nimble wing]

terraria could probably use a boss with a sword, come to think of it

[gloomy wedge]

tbf i did find full menacing to be better than full warding on dog

[cedar laurel]

Infernum calclone but she’s deviantt

[thin canyon]

literally "kill him before he kills you"

[nimble wing]

sometimes MORE damage than offense builds, like when you become capable of facetanking eoc as summoner

[gloomy wedge]

then again i did also have a bit of a weirder build

[smoky dock]

👍

[gloomy wedge]

also one really good thing to do for dog, have a 2nd loadout like this with witchs broom for bullet hells

makes the laser grids so much less punishing

and you get to retain all the damage of omega blue

[smoky dock]

eh, the setup is a little bit unusual but it’s not really bad at all

[white dagger]

would yall recommend the gauss rifle

[gloomy wedge]

for what boss

[white dagger]

cultist

[gloomy wedge]

i mean its a generally pretty good weapon but

[smoky dock]

I would rather pull teeth than switch loadouts mid boss

[gloomy wedge]

personally i prefer blight spewer

[gloomy wedge]

the humble f2:

[white dagger]

flamethrowers are so boring to me

[thick wolf]

are there any patterns to look out for to predict the rgb lasers? that's the part i'm struggling with the most

20 attempts deep and I dont think i've got the thing to half hp

[waxen tide]

evolution⭐ 🔥 🔥

[gloomy wedge]

speaking of eternity death, its free so far

crabulons a neat fight tho

a LOT better than his infernum counterpart

[thick wolf]

it's free until early hardmode tbh

[gloomy wedge]

then ig early hardmode is gonna be my first death

[smoky dock]

https://tenor.com/view/resident_evil_4-resident-evil4-re4-strangle-strangling-gif-27515159

[waxen tide]

what weapon

[thick wolf]

Sea's Searing

[gloomy wedge]

alr now i gotta plan for eow

[waxen tide]

hm

[gloomy wedge]

rusty beacon + nasty cholla is pretty good for him right

[thick wolf]

I'm also playing with Calamity Overhaul and have the Halibut Cannon but dps seems to be slightly worse for destroyer

it smacked on Twins though

[gloomy wedge]

first of all overhaul BOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[waxen tide]

🤯

[gloomy wedge]

secondly if you're playing overhaul

just use murasama lmao

[waxen tide]

actually I dont know if that would be bettar than stormbow or dart gun for dest ngl

but what rgb lasers you mean ?

eternity dest does only have red lasers

[waxen tide]

should be

[thick wolf]

along with the red lasers there are blue and green ones that inflict frostburn and cursed flames

and there's so goddamn many it feels impossible to dodge at times

[waxen tide]

now is that a dlc change or overhaul change cus idk

[gloomy wedge]

but are there any options that can straight up just cheese the boss

[waxen tide]

idk

lead ench is cool on eow tho

[gloomy wedge]

might as well go for lead

i dont need coin of deceit

[regal path]

is wotg multiplayer compatible yet

[waxen tide]

probably no

[thick wolf]

DLC presumably

[smoky dock]

wotg is barely functional as is

there’s no shot it’ll be multiplayer compatible any time soon

[white dagger]

how do I find the sunken sea base

I found this though

[dusk citrus]

Okay now I’m getting trolled, I have wrath of the gods installed and made a new world, but now it just acts like it isn’t installed

[smoky dock]

You’re in the wrong biome, the sunken sea is under the underground desert

[waxen tide]

wrong sea

[smoky dock]

The sulfurous sea is where Draedon dumps all his waste

[smoky dock]

Double check that it’s enabled

[white dagger]

ohhh

duh

[smoky dock]

I hate that you have to install a mod and then manually enable it…

[dusk citrus]

It is

I made a world before and everything worked

[smoky dock]

That’s weird

[dusk citrus]

Didn’t change anything but had to make a new world, but it’s content is just not there

[gloomy wedge]

oh how i wish there was literally any pickaxe before nightmare that could break ebonstone

[waxen tide]

in dlc you can get hellstone via reaver shark prolly
unless dlc renerfs reaver shark

(and crags crates but who cares about lava fishing smh smh smh)

[gloomy wedge]

dlc renerfs reaver shark

[waxen tide]

[gloomy wedge]

dont those need a shadow key

[thin canyon]

sunken sea is below the desert

you're in sulfuric sea

[white dagger]

yes

[waxen tide]

I dont think so

[dusk citrus]

Okay I made a new world, didn’t change anything, but it has the structures now

So I guess it’s fine??

For now

[snow sun]

Hey yall, what should i name my summoner character im trying? Im taking a quick break from Fargos

[thin canyon]

Miku's Army

[snow sun]

I said character not world.

[thin canyon]

yes

or just Miku's servant

[snow sun]

You know what?

Congratulations, you’re my summoner

We ball

[thin canyon]

no

cibceunn

that's my name of my character on melee infer

[snow sun]

You cannot stop me

[snow sun]

Lmao

[thin canyon]

ehe

[white dagger]

how do you search by mod

in recipebrowser

oh

nvm

[formal dagger]

uhh whats after the flag from solgryn

ngl it is a cool ass flag

[gloomy wedge]

just wait a day

and she'll build a camp

also why is there so much lava

[formal dagger]

i see

[gloomy wedge]

first time having to recall home from a fight

[formal dagger]

because i was too lazy to fill it in

[gloomy wedge]

no but like how did the lava get there

[formal dagger]

i bombed it then filled it in

i wanted a flat surface

and i also didnt want enemies to spawn

so i wanted to fill it w lava

unfortunately i got lazy

[covert parrot]

Guys, what the hell is this?! Almost the entire screen is covered in fog, and there are scary sounds coming from it. This is the first time I've encountered this, and I've already tried searching for information online, but there's nothing about it. Solin from Wrath of the gods mod reacted to the fog, which means it's from calamity or its addons. What is it, and what does it do?

[gloomy wedge]

The Fog is Coming.

[formal dagger]

the mist ahh

[gloomy wedge]

if you want an actual answer (but i wouldnt click on it because it makes things way less fun)
||it's just a random event from wrath of the gods, it has no effect on progression and after you touch the copy of the player it'll go away||

[wise thicket]

[snow sun]

Spooder

[wise thicket]

Extra Note on this: ||Sometimes instead of encountering a copy, you instead encounter a corrupted tree that will attack you, killing it will drop a bunch of spooky wood||

[gloomy wedge]

oh shit i didnt know about that

[covert parrot]

thanks

[covert parrot]

thanks to you too

[wise thicket]

it's definitely the one that catches you off-guard more often

[gloomy wedge]

are there any specific accessories that synergize REALLY well with vile feeders

bc i think summoner up until skeletron is prob the safest play for me

[wise thicket]

no accessories in particular

[snow sun]

Oh yeah the tree

[wise thicket]

just ones that empower summoner in general

[gloomy wedge]

so just standard voltaic jelly and stuff?

[wise thicket]

yeah pretty much

[gloomy wedge]

realistically what could i do here

to swap out for voltaic jelly

i guess i could go pumpkin? but that feels like throwing ngl

[wise thicket]

what stage are you at?

[gloomy wedge]

prepping for boc and hive mind rn

hardcore so i want to maximize survivability

i think swapping rotting heart is prob the safest move?

or maybe i could just not use voltaic since 3 slots is more than enough for damage

[formal dagger]

did a thing, now the lavas looking messed up

i approve this wotg update 👍

[wise thicket]

rotting heart is too helpful

you can probably swap out ancient cobalt

[gloomy wedge]

actually yeah ancient cobalt doesnt seem that helpful for any other bosses rn

[wise thicket]

thing is you'll be fighting, what I'm guessing is EDeath BoC, yes?

[gloomy wedge]

yeah

[snow sun]

Why does that look like that

[wise thicket]

do you know how Eternity BoC works?

[formal dagger]

seed thing

[gloomy wedge]

i do not

this is my first edeath playthrough

[snow sun]

Ohhh, secret seed?

[gloomy wedge]

i mean i know how eternity boc works

[wise thicket]

well you're gonna die

[gloomy wedge]

just not edeath boc

[formal dagger]

no, its from solyn

[wise thicket]

EDeath BoC inherits the dash attack

[formal dagger]

wrath of the gods

she gives us a seedd

[snow sun]

Oh the actual seed seed

[formal dagger]

yes

[wise thicket]

so in phase 2, it will dash some time after roaring and inflicting confusion

so be wary

[gloomy wedge]

oh so its still got the confusion gimmick

[wise thicket]

yes, but it's not as frequent on eternity

and it's now easier to know which is the real brain

as it will highlight itself when it begins to move towards you faster/dashing

[gloomy wedge]

interesting

[wise thicket]

basically Phase 2 is much less bullshit now

[snow sun]

I forgot i installed a mod for more whips that can be crafted early

[gloomy wedge]

i love [BALANCED] and [FAIR] weapons

[waxen tide]

snapthorn doing too much

smh

[limber sage]

vile feeder too

[gloomy wedge]

vile feeder and scab ripper are the exact same weapon right

[limber sage]

no

they perform very differently

[waxen tide]

scab rippers works as spiders

[gloomy wedge]

oh

[waxen tide]

while vile feeders just fly

both are SS tho

[gloomy wedge]

i just saw them both ranked as SS and assumed they were the same ngl

[waxen tide]

scab rippers are better for womrs tho

[limber sage]

scab rippers also have their projectiles rain from the sky

similar to uh

blood rain bow

[sonic meteor]

Is there a Infernum multiplayer patch

[gloomy wedge]

not to my knowledge

infernum is just always gonna be buggy in multiplayer, just like every mod

[nimble wing]

there is or was but it barely does anything

[sonic meteor]

I’m sure it’s complwteable ☺️

[nimble wing]

infernum multiplayer is pretty fine in my experience

[smoky dock]

No

Made the same typo three times in a row

[sonic meteor]

Also I’m noticing there’s like a shit ton of chests

[fair geode]

i wish there was auric tools

thatd look so cool

[limber sage]

what wuld be the purpose though?

would*

[fair geode]

looking cool

whats the purpose of crystyl crusher

[limber sage]

devouring the world

[cedar ridge]

mine scal

[west tusk]

what melee weapon should I use against infernum destroyer of worlds? he's my second mech boss

[limber sage]

avalanche

or the uh

fire axe thing

something cutter

they're both tmelee but they're great vs destroyer

[nimble wing]

inferna cutter isn't actually true melee but it's close

avalanche is great specifically for dest

[nimble wing]

or you could do AS first, get submarine shocker and melt literally everything

[west tusk]

alr bet

ill prolly just use avalanche icl

[limber sage]

it's not? I coulda sworn it was

oop

yer right

melee classification, not true melee

but I remember it being a stupidly short range so maybe that's why

my brain said 'true melee'

[pure lance]

whats the best ranger weapon for providence and profraned guardians?

(infernum)

[spare holly]

i had a watch one time

[limber sage]

I found that the uh

idr the name, crap, hold on

planetary annihilation worked great, but if you're really good with it, the superadiant slaughterer absolutely runs a train on prov

I preferred the bow cuz i couldn't get the slaughterer to out dps the bow for some reason

or really out dps anything

100% user issue

[cedar ridge]

celebration mk2

its the best

[pure lance]

i was reccomended clockwork as well

[cedar ridge]

mid

[pure lance]

oh

what about armor sets?

[spare holly]

clockwork isn't that great

[cedar ridge]

vortex armor

[spare holly]

def vortex

[pure lance]

ok then

does calamity add nay special rockets for celebration mk 2?

[limber sage]

I don't think so?

apparently not

just use nuke 1

[pure lance]

ok

thx

[waxen tide]

superradiant slaugheter absolutely destroys them

[cedar ridge]

mini nuke 1 is buffed and tier shifted

[waxen tide]

sherds to pieces

kills

murders

[short jacinth]

how do u get the scal whip from catalyst

[pure lance]

tier shifted?

to post ML?

[cedar ridge]

yes

[waxen tide]

isnt that exhumed kaleidoscope or sum

[cedar ridge]

its pre moonlord in vanilla

[pure lance]

i see

[waxen tide]

smh smh

[fair geode]

i mean its getting changed to melee damage instead so

technically its not true melee at all

same for ultimus cleaver

[short jacinth]

thx

[real cipher]

on summon weapons do you use ruthless reforge or other

[limber sage]

ruthless

all other stats are pointless besides damage

speed, knockback, crit rate, mana cost, etc

ruthless has highest damage multiplier which is all that matters

as for whips, legendary is what you do

[real cipher]

thx

[limber sage]

cuz size, damage, and speed up is great

[real cipher]

can you say what is the best summon weapon against dog

[limber sage]

virid vanguard

with tenryuu

[real cipher]

ITS FROM UELIBLOOM BARS

[pure lance]

guys

planetrary annihilation is so much better than celbration or clockwork what 😭

i beat profaned guardian first try

dont ask why its signus

[nova tree]

are there any well known calamity mod packs out there?

[waxen tide]

no

[nova tree]

k just wondering, thx

[solar badger]

How does lunatic cultists clone move work in revengeance I couldn't figure for the life of me which one was correct

[waxen tide]

one version is different

[limber sage]

it has the best ai for DoG

it's one of the only summons that target and stay on the head

others will drop in dps cuz they decide to go for the heavily armoured body

[real cipher]

yea i see do like 4k damage more

[solar badger]

They all look the same tho and you get like 3 seconds

[waxen tide]

gotta be fast

[limber sage]

told ya

[pure lance]

one attempt infernum profaned gaurdians is unheard of

finally ranger is doing decent dps

and its a fun weapon

and provdience was also first tried

holy shit

[spare holly]

first try prov isnt that hard

[dreamy tide]

When i go to my boss log on infernum i dont see shadow of calamtis or argus

I see the shark and calamatis clone

[humble marlin]

yeah cuz bosschecklist sucks

[dreamy tide]

Oh

Is there a way to fix it

Cause i have no idea who tf argus is

I know i need to fight it

[spare holly]

argus works

it's pre-moon lord in the checklist i think

[pure lance]

its still very nice bc infernum prov is arguably the hardest boss progression wise

[dreamy tide]

I just see the great land shark

Sand

[pure lance]

especially with a new class

[dreamy tide]

Something like that

[spare holly]

i find prov to be pretty easy but that might be because i do sentinels before guardians

[pure lance]

well thats why

wait how

isnt RoK post prov?

[spare holly]

you can craft it post moon lord

[waxen tide]

alt recipe

[pure lance]

ohh

[waxen tide]

theres also alt recipe for cosmic worm

[spare holly]

mhm

[pure lance]

really?

i might try dog pre sentinenl then

infernum DoG is pretty easy

[spare holly]

i have ptsd from infernum dog

[real cipher]

how to disable vanilla dash

[pure lance]

infernum dog is so fun

[pure lance]

key config

under calamity mod

[real cipher]

in the mod configuration tab

[spare holly]

rogue wep for inf dog?

[grim swallow]

Hey guys
For my next master infernun true melee run, what addons should I get for tough bossfights (the fun part only matters if the boss is better than inf polterghast)
I currently have HotOG, WotG, WotM, catalyst

[waxen tide]

jaws of oblivion stealth or old reaper spam

[formal geode]

i havent beat regular calamity yet and i decided to play infernum what is wrong with me why is the clam strong

[grim swallow]

Clam is busted

[gloomy wedge]

very stressful fight im gonna be honest

[gloomy wedge]

WELCOME TO THE CLAM

[formal geode]

i am gonna be so cooked why did i decide to play infernum

i have skill issue

[gloomy wedge]

dw everyone dies to the clam

its a rite of passage

[spare summit]

Clam is unironically the hardest prehardmode fight dw too much about it

Also get flipper potions if you haven’t they’re kinda mandatory if you’re fighting it on tier

[formal geode]

oh

i am gonna need to make a clam arena

never thought that was gonna be a thing

[gloomy wedge]

that one big room with the sea prisms in the middle should be enough

[spare summit]

A platform in the big area with the main sea prism should suffice

[gloomy wedge]

could also just get arctic diving gear

i think the structure with it still exists

ok so, ive come across an issue

how do i get feathers risklessly

[waxen tide]

shimmer grav potions

or featherfall

[gloomy wedge]

oh shit thats smart

[formal geode]

then just shimmer alchemy table dupe for infinite

[gloomy wedge]

im just asking since i need feathers for aerospec

and harpies are SCARY

idt ill need feathers for anything else after this

actually is aerospec summoner even good

[spare summit]

Yeah but I prefer obsidian

[formal geode]

idk ive never played summoner

is summoner good?

[waxen tide]

normally you would want bee armor

very

[gloomy wedge]

very

[spare summit]

Arguably the best class

[gloomy wedge]

its the only class besides rogue that has an argument for being the best

because summoner is just stupid easy and strong

which is making it ideal for hardcore runs like this

[formal geode]

should i use summoner or melee then for first infernum playthrough?

[past pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/planet-gif-18164157563366683835

[gloomy wedge]

i'd recommend not sticking to any class

[spare summit]

Agreed

[grim swallow]

I used obsisdian tho

[gloomy wedge]

just use whatever you think is cool at your current progression

[grim swallow]

But all three of this tier are viable

[formal geode]

alright

[snow sun]

I’ve actually started up a summoner playthrough, as a little break from edeath melee

[spare summit]

I don’t get why so many people stick to classes for a whole playthrough

[gloomy wedge]

i dont want viable, i want the best

[grim swallow]

Aeralite is good, obsidian is good bee is good
I heard the bee armor is the best

[gloomy wedge]

the moment i think "ok i think my equipment is good enough even if its not the best possible thing i could get" is the moment i lose this run

one idea i do have is just not going for summoner armor

[grim swallow]

Are you in HC?

[gloomy wedge]

but keeping voltaic jelly

yeah hardcore edeath

[solar badger]

Is dealing with revengeance cultist can you even avoid the dragon spawning?

[gloomy wedge]

tracking disk is really good right

[waxen tide]

pretty good

[snow sun]

Idk

[surreal delta]

OE whitelisted items wont excavate for me

and placing a row of platforms fast neither

[grim swallow]

But yeah guys I need more bosses

[spare summit]

Astrageldon

Wait that’s catalyst mb

[grim swallow]

Afaik the addons that I have arr the best quality ones

But whats the name of gyzmos addon

Or whats the name of the exo brain

Shit his name is hypnos

[gloomy wedge]

should i go all in on vile feeders or sprinkle in a bit of dank staff in there

[waxen tide]

vile feeder

[grim swallow]

Yeah how bad is the hypnos figth

[gloomy wedge]

i uh

i think i won after recalling home so i wouldnt die

but perf takes a while to despawn

so it was just running towards me

i think shadowflame was still active and there were still some feeders over there

so it died while i was waiting for it to despawn LOL

[solar badger]

Do I do pillars then astrum deus or do I do the pillar for my weapon then astrum

[gloomy wedge]

i'd say do all the pillars

and either just exit world or die to ml

if you're playing on infernum i'd also say do bereft before deus

[grim swallow]

Depends

[gloomy wedge]

because bereft weapons are STUPID

and cherished sealocket is like a contender for best accessory pre-ml

[grim swallow]

Are you sure you will be using pillar weapons and not sone scoria shit

And usually what I do is kill deus right after cultist for the fragments and then ask abom to cancel the pillars

[surreal delta]

OE whitelisted items wont excavate for me

and placing a row of platforms fast neither

[grim swallow]

Are you holding the button

[surreal delta]

yes

its worked before

[grim swallow]

Weird

[surreal delta]

im wondering tho

does it have issues like these if i have both vein miner and oe enabled

[spare summit]

Virid vanguard or stabbers or something else for sentinels and polter?

[waxen tide]

vanguard for dog and storm weaver

[grim swallow]

Okay guys

Do I add the shit post mod for my next run

(CCR)

No wrong question

Will it work for my next run

(infernum WotG shit)

[spare summit]

If you want to turn your playthrough into a fever dream I guess

[grim swallow]

To be fair my later playthroughd were feeling sorta bland

Except for post ml

[solar badger]

Ah lowkey I don't gaf about other weapons, idk what I can get from scoria mage wise nor what weapons are good for deus

[grim swallow]

Wasnt there a very large radius scoria book

[cunning forum]

my fargos mutand dash rebind isnt working no matter what i put it as it stays as double tap d and a

[gloomy wedge]

ok now i beat perfs for real this time

[lofty widget]

are there any addons that let you play calamity as boss rush, skipping getting all the gear, building base, mining etc? without having to manually give myself gear/summons with cheat sheet?

[gloomy wedge]

first of all you definitely shouldnt be playing calamity like that because it'll get very boring very fast

but secondly i dont think so

[waxen tide]

no

that would be just the same as cheating tbf

[lofty widget]

I've already beaten game like thrice, and want to just fight bosses as it was the part I enjoyed the most each time

[gloomy wedge]

then just use dragonlens

[lofty widget]

its same as cheat sheet mod tho, right?

[waxen tide]

yes

well kinda better

but still a cheat menu mod

[spare summit]

It just has more stuff which I often find unnecessary

[gloomy wedge]

dragonlens is just better than cheat sheet in basically every way

cleaner ui, more features, etc

[lofty widget]

Ill look into that

[spare summit]

If you just wanna give yourself gear and build arenas with a cheat tool I think cheat sheet is easier to use

[timid crown]

can i add hunt of the old gods with fargocalamity

[waxen tide]

prolly

[gloomy wedge]

engaging game design

[waxen tide]

old ones army so peak

[gloomy wedge]

wow, this was literally just emode queen bee

[snow sun]

You’ll see much bigger changes in the cal bosses. Slime god’s my personal fave

[gloomy wedge]

yeah i can tell that much from perfs

great fight btw

[snow sun]

The fucking spooder yeah

[grim swallow]

How op are unofficial calamity whips if I dont have minions

[waxen tide]

weird question

[snow sun]

Actually catalyst is technically unofficial cal whips final form. They just haven’t migrated everything

[waxen tide]

not op that much

[fervent nimbus]

what is the hardest difficulty for multiplayer

[waxen tide]

with minions they are like busted as fuck

[fading dove]

their main strength is their abhorrently overpowered tag effects

[grim swallow]

I wanted to do whip only infernum for like a year

[fading dove]

like the stardust whip that gives 2.5x damage

[waxen tide]

sounds ass ngl

[grim swallow]

But it seems that calamity devs are not in a hurry making the new whips

[fervent nimbus]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

[waxen tide]

thats just weaponless with extra steps

[waxen tide]

satanist

[grim swallow]

People do yoyo only I will do whip only

[waxen tide]

okay but like yoyo are decent

[fading dove]

multiplayer removes the majority of the challenge by letting you have respawn relay

[waxen tide]

whips alone are not

[grim swallow]

"summoner but I want to be melee"

[fading dove]

morning star

[waxen tide]

hm true

but still

[fervent nimbus]

does infernum and catalyst work in multiplayer?

[gloomy wedge]

why the fuck did they make morning star do that much damage btw

[gloomy wedge]

yes, but like any mod, expect bugs

[grim swallow]

Infernum yeah catalyst not really

[waxen tide]

yes

[fervent nimbus]

how big of bugs we talkin

in infernum

[grim swallow]

Infernum has not much bugs

When me and my friend played I dont remember any major

[gloomy wedge]

modded multiplayer in general is just very jank

so always be wary

[grim swallow]

(except for one based on my internet where I eas 5 minutes back into the past on exo mech fight)

They already died but on my screen the second mrch just appeared

[gloomy wedge]

summoner is actually brainless why is this class allowed to be this strong 🥀

[waxen tide]

yes

📉

[grim swallow]

That is exactly why I want to do the damn whip only challenge

To make summoner bad for the first time in my life

[waxen tide]

snapthorn carry

[solar badger]

Lazhar may be the best weapon to ever grace my screen

[noble summit]

It just takes less skill

If ur good at dodging + aiming at the same time the other classes preform just as good

[gloomy wedge]

they literally dont

summoner is both easier and better than every other class except for rogue

[woven rune]

this is just factually incorrect

[gloomy wedge]

i played ranger for all of infernum and i can confirm

its way worse

[woven rune]

Summoner is objectively one of (if not the) strongest class for every stage in the game

[cedar ridge]

except dog

[noble summit]

I been playing calamity for 20 years ik what im talking about

[woven rune]

You can no-hit every single boss and Summoner will consistently have one of the fastest kill times for every fight

its not balanced in the slightest

[gloomy wedge]

it's either summoner or rogue

[noble summit]

Just cause it does more dmg and takes less skill doesn’t make it better

[gloomy wedge]

yeah it does

the only flaw of summoner is that it takes up more accessory slots on class specific accessories

but you still have more than enough for all the essentials in all stages of the game

low bulk isnt a major weakness either since most of your bulk comes from accessories that give defense/dr and warding

[woven rune]

It literally does

[solar badger]

How goods the swarmer?

[woven rune]

It's more effective and requires less skill

It is objectively better than basically every other class 😭

[gloomy wedge]

if you use that one pbg accessory i think its good

[noble summit]

Nope

[waxen tide]

summoner has very good damage and good defense for no reason

like

[gloomy wedge]

which stages of the game have a class that both performs better than summoner that isnt rogue

[waxen tide]

what the fuck is auric summoner

[woven rune]

lol ok man

[waxen tide]

ranger rn post ml
melee at exos
tmelee early hardmode

[gloomy wedge]

ok true, post ml ranger is better thanks to superradiant being

well a thing thats for sure

actually i havent seen much of superradiant on basecal guardians/provi

is it still busted there

i would assume so but just to be sure

[waxen tide]

yes but harder to use

[noble summit]

Doing more damage is actually worse imo

[waxen tide]

??

[gloomy wedge]

literally in what timeline

[waxen tide]

elaborate

[noble summit]

No

[gloomy wedge]

doing more damage = the fight ends faster

[waxen tide]

[woven rune]

he's baiting then

[spare summit]

You heard it here first the best loadout is wood armor and copper short sword

[visual bay]

exomechs hate this one simple trick:

[woven rune]

ranger doesn't perform better than summoner post ml lmao

Superradiant doesn't outperform a good summoner setup

[gloomy wedge]

i think it can on infernum

but infernum guardians compared to basecal guardians is such a drastic difference

[spare summit]

What if you use super radiant + your 3 free summon slots and 2 free sentry slots

[woven rune]

3 summon slots aren't much and deal less damage anyway if ur not summoner

full summoner loadout should have what like 12 slots and 3 sentries? plus the whip(s)?

[gloomy wedge]

i think if youre not summoner you just use those slots on brittle star right

[woven rune]

that's what I do up until Yharon

Dark Sun Ring gets you to 5 slots which gives you a full Mirror of Kalandra

[waxen tide]

I meant like pre provi

superradiant does outpeform

[gloomy wedge]

i still use brittle star on scal tbh

[woven rune]

not for me

[gloomy wedge]

like maybe its not optimal but it still works really well imo

[woven rune]

full summon setup with sentries down and I'm hitting like 20k DPS single target probably

[gloomy wedge]

basically turns dark sun ring into a 2nd draedons heart in terms of defense

[woven rune]

maybe more

[woven rune]

not a bad strat ofc

I just prefer the extra damage at that stage since I should be tanky enough with Sponge/Chalice/Radiance/Draedon's Heart/etc

[gloomy wedge]

yeah thats fair

im bad so i like bulkmaxxing

[woven rune]

bulkmaxxing lowk does fuck all past Yharon

at least for Infernum

250, 300, or 400 defense it doesn't really matter

SCal still 3 taps you 😭

[waxen tide]

not really

[gloomy wedge]

i found it really helpful personally

esp with chalice

[woven rune]

heart statue maxxing helps WAY more at least for me

^genuinely cheating though

its so unfair

[gloomy wedge]

i was thinking about putting heart statues down but i went like ehhh thats a little too cheesy for me

[spare summit]

Heart statue + void potion my beloved

[gloomy wedge]

im 100% doing that for this hardcore run tho

[spare summit]

Hopefully I won’t ever have to resort to that

[gloomy wedge]

void potion is all fun and games until it turns nighttime

bit of a stressful fight but nothing a bee dash cant fix

now i get access to uh

post-skeletron rogue

jesus fucking christ

[woven rune]

just turn God mode on atp 💀

[solar badger]

I see the plague hive on the wiki but not recipe browser not for crafting despite having everything for it

[spare summit]

Where are you getting these tier lists

[gloomy wedge]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10bgBHu7apfftITBOQVJrtYCiakZVGC4reJcvfJqMBEM/edit#gid=775627746

[spare summit]

Nice thanks

Surely this will be better than whatever tf the wiki guides are

[waxen tide]

wiki guides are outdated tbf
class setups is the best up to date guide

[spare summit]

They’re fine I guess but they just recommend every half decent weapon available at that point

Even the vanilla wiki stopped doing that

[gloomy wedge]

oh, so enchanted axe is just bananarangs but cracked beyond belief

[solar badger]

Since plague hive was removed is alchemical flask good enough with the swarmer?

[hearty flame]

is it safe to go to the lost colliseum or will it reset my boss progression

i have boss checklist

[spare summit]

Uninstall boss checklist or summon the boss with dragonlens

It screwed everything up for me

[gloomy wedge]

deerclops next ig

[solar badger]

What's some tips for moonlord

Here's my accessories and I'm using nebula blaze as my main weapon

[spare summit]

Swap to hydrothermic armor and replace charm of myths with amalgamated brain or something

[solar badger]

I thought astral was better?

[spare summit]

Maybe if you run hybrid summoner ig

[solar badger]

Ah, I see

Would warding make much of a difference or should I keep menacing

[spare summit]

All warding is usually better for everything ever

Except nohitting

[solar badger]

Got him with that thanks broski

[hearty flame]

doesnt calamity disable hybrid summoner

with the 75% damage down on summons when using other weapons

[hearty flame]

is he supposed to be really easy or does having lots of arena space to move around make it that way

[solar badger]

So uh what's the first move after moon lord? Is it just boss rushy from now on?

[real cipher]

f yes

ez

first try

[solar badger]

Nit excited for when I get to him 💀

[real cipher]

its a good boss

but first 100attempts the second phase start is hell

[solar badger]

Celestial tracers good or shpuld I just use normal wings?

[spare summit]

Not necessarily, summons do 25% less damage but it’s still free damage

Astral armor giving minion slots and 35% boost to all damage more than counteracts that

[hearty flame]

oh i thought it was 75% less

[spare summit]

I think it used to be

From wiki

All summon weapons will deal 0.75x their usual damage if the player is holding a weapon belonging to a different class. This effect is also known as the "summoner penalty".
This effect does not trigger while holding a tool or classless weapon or during the Old One's Army event.

[real cipher]

what summoner gear do i need to get pre yahron

yharon

[spare summit]

Mirror of Kalandra, mechworm, cadaverous carrion, nucleogenesis and Silva armor

[real cipher]

thx

[spare summit]

Oh and eye of magnus+ kaleidoscope

But I’m assuming you have that

[solar badger]

Do I need the corruption and hallow for anything now?

Or can I throw a raiment down to get rid of them

[spare summit]

Keep some blocks to set up a farm later bc you never know

[fair geode]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/355187662761623552/1393742631707869316/splinkydinkydoo_v_Tendies.mp4?ex=68744779&is=6872f5f9&hm=6bd5e87eae6cfd93eaed769cebe7c05f42b29979bf032300afd91fa51d42fbd0& god i threw so god damn hard lmao (technically relevant right?)

[gloomy wedge]

yomi spotted certified Bad Video Game

[light crypt]

i need to ask what is harder infernum mode or for the worthy death mode?

[harsh onyx]

have them on for everything except bossfights where you need vertical mobility, for that craft separate angel threads and solar/whatever best wings

[spare summit]

Use starboard and no boots

Especially for infernum providence and guardians

Hover and ascend gives you all the mobility you need

[harsh onyx]

not even angel threads? or perhaps soaring insignia?

[spare summit]

Nope
At that point use tracers

I much prefer starboard for providence and guardians

[snow sun]

Im gonna do flamethrower only run. HOWEVER, im also not going to be using alch npc lite

[pure lance]

infernum signus's blind slash attack

is unironically hell on earth

[waxen tide]

sometimes

[quartz nimbus]

How compatible are the fargos souls mods with calamity?

[waxen tide]

if you use fargos dlc then it works

and also adds new stuff

[quartz nimbus]

Does it include the bosses?

[fading dove]

legendary death and not in a good way

[waxen tide]

fargos calamity dlc reworks all calamity bosses up to calclone + old duke and exos
and keeps their vanilla bosses

[fading dove]

many bosses gain custom eternity ai

[quartz nimbus]

Would you recommend doing fargos or infernmum for the ai changes

[fading dove]

imo eternity's more fun

[cedar laurel]

Fargo have lump of flesh it win

[nimble wing]

i have to give it to eternity yea