calamity-addon-talk

[grim swallow]

What do the wings give

[sonic meteor]

doesn’t charm upgrade into something

[humble marlin]

recon scope over deadshots and maybe deific amulet over charm of myths

[past pagoda]

after dog

chalice of blood god

[waxen tide]

15 defense
and like 1HP or 2HP/s idk I forgor

with armor

[humble marlin]

think its 2

[waxen tide]

its 1 HP/s

[humble marlin]

nvm then

[snow sun]

Is interlude 2 after deus

[grim swallow]

There is only 4 interludes I think

Post cal clone post dog post yharon post scal

[waxen tide]

I dont think theres any interludes after deus

[snow sun]

Then what’s interlude 2

[grim swallow]

Eulogy for the ego I think

[humble marlin]

no

[snow sun]

*when’s

[waxen tide]

post ml

[snow sun]

Ohhhh, that makes sense actually

[humble marlin]

post calclone
post ml
post yharon(?

[waxen tide]

yes

[humble marlin]

yea

[waxen tide]

with VCMM theres also interlude after wof

[grim swallow]

And there is one post dog which isnt counted as an interlude

[thin canyon]

so

uhh

what mods and addon should i play next ?

[humble marlin]

i wasnt counting interludes duh

[thin canyon]

finished cala+thor+cata

[waxen tide]

fartgos

fartgos souls

[grim swallow]

Get wrath of the gods its peam

[fiery mango]

man i can not get past the charges in p3

how is one physically supposed to do that

[humble marlin]

its a weird ram angle

[grim swallow]

Either weird ram angle or dash to the side and dodge

[thin canyon]

already annihilated nameless deity gods know how much time i had killed him

[grim swallow]

Well do you want a challenge

If so get infernum

[thin canyon]

already killed him by accident in infernum

[grim swallow]

(also hunt of the old god is cool)

[thin canyon]

and already killed him in GFB

[grim swallow]

No ND doesnt change in infernum

[thin canyon]

(had to godmode in his 1 hit)

[humble marlin]

HoTG being flashy asf but hot garbage:

[thin canyon]

already finished infernum

melee only

[grim swallow]

I mean for the first time goozma is cool

[trail jackal]

HotG feels very complete and well made for it is. A little capstone extra for calamity end-game. It fits thematically well, and the items you get from it are fairly unique and interesting

[thin canyon]

im thinking about cala fable or something

[trail jackal]

but after doing it once, youve seen it

[snow sun]

I don’t like it purely because of the auric souls

[humble marlin]

fables is like
a really, really short mod

high quality af yeah, but its still in the works

[thin canyon]

hmm

maybe i gonna try fargo

[grim swallow]

By the time fables is finished yharim will come out

[humble marlin]

the boss is good looking yeah, but its such an pain in the ass to fight

[thin canyon]

hotg ?

[humble marlin]

80% of its attacks feel like rng or straight up undodgeable

[thin canyon]

who is hotg

[humble marlin]

hunt for the old god

[thin canyon]

hmm

[humble marlin]

goozma bossfight

[thin canyon]

i should try to fight him

[grim swallow]

Idk for me Its only crimson dude

[fiery mango]

i did it-H

[grim swallow]

Crimson dude third attack is insane

[humble marlin]

hes the biggest issue in expert

[grim swallow]

Yay

[humble marlin]

in mastermode however every single attack is dogwater

only took 60 atts cuz i kept dying to bs

[humble marlin]

ggs

[fiery mango]

now i can never ever fight that boss ever again because genuinely

wtf were they thinking

[thin canyon]

i feel bosses so slow now

due to fighting nameless in gfb world

[humble marlin]

is he really that fast

[thin canyon]

mildly fast

[humble marlin]

similar to infernum night provi or faster?

[thin canyon]

he's more like

well

i will let you see

let me cut the clip rq

@humble marlin

(still have alot of skill issue since this was like the 25th attempt)

[humble marlin]

shouldve use shpc

[thin canyon]

use the wa?

[slender vine]

how do you do it

[humble marlin]

[[codebreaker]]

[hollow dove]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Codebreaker

[slender vine]

dont have

[humble marlin]

you want advance dysplay, unlocked in this order

[slender vine]

and if you asked, why my hollow took over my base, dont

[snow sun]

They really need to remove the speed up decryption thing, unless they give us more shit to decrypt, because otherwise it’s useless

[snow sun]

Do you not know what green solution is

[inland stone]

fuh yea

[snow sun]

Fun my ass

[fiery mango]

does

does AoE not kill old duke if you use the infernum summon

[grim swallow]

If you have infernum on

[snow sun]

I don’t think so

[fiery mango]

motherfucker..

[nimble wing]

Avatar can only kill base Old Duke

[inland stone]

only took 240 attempts

[snow sun]

Hah

[vernal bloom]

yeah this was a piece of cake compared to the shit I went through in infernum

first try

[grim swallow]

I have a question
Why did infernum devs gave the same gimmick to 3 bosses in a row

[grim swallow]

Wow
But yeah ND isnt even close to shit like infernum post DoG/yharon

It took me only 35 tries cuz I never seen it before

[vernal bloom]

I mean before I played infernum it took me like 30 tries

Now I got him on my first

I guess I got way better at dodging shit

[grim swallow]

I wonder how much tried will double hp and 1.5x damage nd take

ND doesnt have an insanely bs attack tbh
The hardest attack Id thr clock/the spinner in p3

[fiery mango]

hey is

[soft ferry]

how can i deal more damage to infernum DoG as a summoner? at this rate getting him down to 0 health would take like 4 and a half minutes. my best attempt ended because my nerves caught up to me because it lasted too long

[fiery mango]

superradiant slaughterer good against old duke still

like when does this thing fall off

[grim swallow]

As a weapon unironically virid vamguard is better (uelibloom weapon)

Then
Do you want to have some survivability or do you go all in the dps

If you choose the second option stardust has more dps

[soft ferry]

i just want to do more than tickle the boss even with adrenaline

[grim swallow]

Well yeah get the virid vanguard

And well
For more dps ram him as much as you can

[soft ferry]

wdym ram him as much as i can, there isn't much of a choice, i'm already praying that my dash goes off cooldown every time dog does a turn

[grim swallow]

Yeah

[lucid cypress]

silly statement

[grim swallow]

But what I mean by ram as much as possible is if you have the space reposition him into horizontal dashed

[nimble wing]

Shadowspec.

[grim swallow]

And what does the sixth accessory do

[twilit oar]

is using calamity overhaul with infernum fine?

[grim swallow]

Dont use overhaul

[twilit oar]

why?

[grim swallow]

Check pins

[soft ferry]

extra minion slot, healing pulses, rover drive, and also a kinda-weak free minion

[fiery mango]

i found a boss that superradiant isn't good against!

[grim swallow]

Okay

[fiery mango]

signus!

so

[grim swallow]

Sounds fine

[nimble wing]

HOW

[fiery mango]

what do i use against signus instead

[nimble wing]

Oh wait Infernum Signus

[fiery mango]

yea inf signus hence

this channel

[soft ferry]

also it makes minions inflict holy flames but i dont know if that matters against dog

[grim swallow]

I went full dps loadout so my loadout was:
Stardust
Amalgamated brain
Elysian aegis
Elysian wings
Statis curse
Star tainted core
Phantomic artefact
I think papyrus scroll

Phantomic artefact is actually not the best thing but I used it for regen

[fiery mango]

guys quick infernum signus range weapon

or melee if range sucks

[grim swallow]

Cuz I used Moscow mule and everclear (-7 regen and -~30% of defense but 34% more damage)

[grim swallow]

The bow from weaver with elysian arrows should work

[nimble wing]

Seadragon

[fiery mango]

SOLYN CAN DO THIS?

[snow sun]

MOON LORD IS DEAD

[grim swallow]

Yay

[cedar laurel]

Heart of the master today

[snow sun]

I forgot to fight astragel

Fuck

[cedar laurel]

The anti gatekeep mod

[humble marlin]

no way

[fiery mango]

tried the storm against signus it is not that good

[humble marlin]

never used that gun

or was it a bow

idk

[fiery mango]

bow

i never used it either but i was recommended it

i dont use bows cause theyre boring af

mostly

clockwork is good

[humble marlin]

thinks it good for CV

basecal cv

[soft ferry]

am i stupid or is infernum dog getting smarter the more i fight it??? it spawned the phase 2 portal way earlier than it should, and just now it went away long enough for me to assume it was doing the big lasers so i went on the broom, but then it came out of the portal and murdered me

[grim swallow]

Thats him being weird

Sometimes for an unknown reason he spawn the portal like 3 seconds earlier

[nimble wing]

he occasionally just decides to take too long before portal jumpscare as well

[grim swallow]

And sometimes he slows down while going into a portal and murder you

[heavy moat]

Secret tech invented to throw off players

[grim swallow]

Tho in p3 he actually tricks you

At the last dash he shows like he is dashing and then while you are on dash CD he eats you

[nimble wing]

video games if they were good would make enemies learn from how the player plays the game

[grim swallow]

Dog would just spam lasers then

And p3 teleports

[nimble wing]

instead of sitting back and rolling draconic tree sentinel fireball like 6 times

[heavy moat]

AI in video games-

[grim swallow]

If bosses were smart signus would just slash all over the place

[patent girder]

AI in MY TERRAIRA?

[heavy moat]

That's AI in my comfort video game....

[patent girder]

god damn gpt .

[humble marlin]

gay potential threat

[fair geode]

is there anything i can do to make ares not die so fucking fast

i got to twins desp but thats not what i want

[grim swallow]

Dont shoot him

Or do solo twins

So you cant get their desp

[nimble wing]

i'm guessing you're summoner

[fair geode]

yeah

[nimble wing]

which combo

[turbid glen]

is the devour of gods hard or my build is bad?

[grim swallow]

I was gonna ask if I should do all exos combinations but then I remembered about WotM

[fair geode]

i mean rn im doing twins skeletron

cause destroyer is easy alone

[grim swallow]

I always do the destroyer twins combo

To not have to deal with blenderbeams on other attacks

[fair geode]

yeah except im summoner

i dont get shit from thana and apollo

[nimble wing]

yeah keep doing twins-ares

manually target twins in second combo

are there good minions here whose attacks don't take up a lot of space?

[slate gull]

okay im scared now

[nimble wing]

The fog is coming.

[slate gull]

it takes up almost whole lens

after defeating deus

also is this thing the reason my moon is reddish?

[nimble wing]

no

[fiery mango]

old duke range weapons...?

superradiant isn't bad but is there better?

[snow sun]

His fatass is eating the sun

[slate gull]

idk why it is then

[snow sun]

It’s just like that sometimes

[slate gull]

mine has been pink for a long time, so its pernament

[humble marlin]

pimk moon

[slate gull]

how the hell do i fight astrageldon

i can use wing bcs they have limited time

and broom is slow and doesnt turn well

[grim swallow]

Doesnt he give infinite flight

[fiery mango]

use sealocket on old duke?

also how do you dodge old duke's tiny impossible to see projectiles

[grim swallow]

You smell them

[slate gull]

pretty sure he does not, he makes u have less flight and less vertical speed

[grim swallow]

Or aether monolith

[grim swallow]

Oh yeah thats p1

What wings are you using

[slate gull]

no noo, im on 2

[grim swallow]

I was sure that he doesn't reduce flight time

But fishron ones worked well for me

[slate gull]

im using steampunk for all the mini buffs

[humble marlin]

if you use steampunks, run angel threads with em

[slate gull]

i am

[humble marlin]

oh i see em right there

wait show me your whole setup rq

[humble marlin]

i could give you advice on changes if you want

[slate gull]

i switch between life steal and the ampule

[humble marlin]

im guessing stealth right

[slate gull]

depends

yep

[humble marlin]

glove of precison -> absorber
vampiric talis -> abyssal mirror

[wise thicket]

even beings with somewhat dubious goals need to unwind and party

[smoky dock]

gop is really solid

[humble marlin]

3 silent 3 warding reforges

[smoky dock]

imo drop angel treads for absorber

[humble marlin]

this is for geldon fyi

gop + sheath + mirror would be too much

[wise thicket]

yeah you don't need treads

[smoky dock]

oh shit you're right

[wise thicket]

Phase 2 gives inf flight

[smoky dock]

I thought it was for moom lord

PLEASE use shart of antumbra

[wise thicket]

I would think that Radiant Star would be good for geldon

[past pagoda]

delete community
void thingy-elysian aegis
eye thingy-absorber

[wise thicket]

you could also swap Steampunk for Fishron Wings for improved mobility

you're gonna need it for geldon

[slate gull]

no squids are spawning so cant get ink bomb

and glove of precision is good

[humble marlin]

then replace vampiric talis with like deific amulet or keep ampoule on at all times

vampiric is dogshit ass

[slate gull]

i guess lol

[humble marlin]

• might aswell cheat in the mirror cuz youll need it

[smoky dock]

vampiric amulet is fine

[waxen tide]

kill cuttlefish not squids

[smoky dock]

er, vampiric talisman

[turbid glen]

but community has a beauty sprite

i love it

[slate gull]

nothing almost spawns

like i can prb even show

[wise thicket]

community looks good, though it's...tbh I have no idea what to say without sounding like a hypocrite

[turbid glen]

lol

[humble marlin]

looks good, its completely mid
not bar nor good

use it if you like it

[waxen tide]

community is an ok accessory between provi and polterghast

[slender vine]

is this the jungle bio-center or i have to keep looking for the jungle bio-center

[wise thicket]

no

bio center has a plague aesthetic

and also looks broken down

unlike the other main labs

[humble marlin]

if it has the schematic it is the jungle lab

[slate gull]

im using Battle cry (fargos mod) in the viod

all i get is this

bloatfish

[humble marlin]

thats like too deep for cuttlefish

[slate gull]

is maybe turned off infernum messing with it

[humble marlin]

guh

yeah thats why

if infernum is off then the abyss is fucked

[slender vine]

whats the best way for the bio-center of the jungle, im showing my world map

[slate gull]

damn :/

ig i rly messed myself up with the infernum

note to self, never have it on unless i plan to use it

[wise thicket]

it can be anywhere in the jungle, however there is a device you can use that directs you to it

[slate gull]

so how do i cheat smth in?

[wise thicket]

each lab has a device that directs you to another lab

[slate gull]

or can i turn it off without it breaking my world

[wise thicket]

one of them has one that's for the jungle lab

find it

you may already have it even if you've been to the others

[wise thicket]

use Cheat Sheet/Hero's Mod

[fair geode]

i wish cal added something that made it so all your minions responded to one focus command

so like i use the focus with mirror of kalandra and it makes all my minions focus at the same time

[slender vine]

yeah and tis taking me down to the underworld, yeah i get it

[wise thicket]

Whips

[fair geode]

yeah im sure ill be able to hit apollo

[grim swallow]

Why doesn't calamity say that kaleido and MS are reworked

[fair geode]

with my whip

[grim swallow]

Are you in infernum?

[fair geode]

obviously

[grim swallow]

The humble perditus that reaches across the screen

[wise thicket]

it doesn't matter what twin you're hitting, they both share the same HP bar

[fair geode]

yeah but i cant fucking reach either of the

[wise thicket]

their first attack gives you a very open opportunity to strike them multiple times with the whip if we're talking about Infernum

[grim swallow]

And you run twins+prime yeah?

If so twins are in somewhat close proximity to you constantly

[fair geode]

either that or thana and ares

[wise thicket]

there's only one attack A&A have where they actively keep their distance from you

[grim swallow]

I mean inf twins dont do the basecal shit where thry are glued to screen side

So you should be able to hit them most of the time with at least some whio

[wise thicket]

both can also be easily reached

with Thanatos it's best not to use the whip at all

[fair geode]

also i hate the fact that you dont get inf flight in the blenders

[wise thicket]

platforms

hammered platforms

[grim swallow]

Instant platform fallthrough

[wise thicket]

plus even Seraph Tracers + Soaring + Weightless Candle + Some sort of flight boosting accessory gives you plenty of flight time

[grim swallow]

And also guys
What is your top 3 exo combination for infernuk difficulty wise

[grim swallow]

And especially if you use the actual wings and not the boots and just a soaring potion you will be fine

[wise thicket]

1. Thana + A&A (Because Solo Ares fucking SUCKS)
2. Thana + Ares
3. Ares + A&A

[fair geode]

im literally focusing twins bro come on

even when im focusing twins he dies so fucking fast

[wise thicket]

you're just using mechworm?

[gloomy wedge]

i have mixed opinions on this fight

[fair geode]

no

[grim swallow]

For me its
Prime+worm (absolute bs imo)
Prime+twins (not as hard as prime+worm but the second encounter is hell)
Worm+twins(after I beat solo ares the fight is piss easy)

[grim swallow]

Why do people hate whio stacking

[gloomy wedge]

also what mod adds this piano cover of universal collapse after the fight

because its really good

[grim swallow]

Its basecal afaik

[gloomy wedge]

it is?

i do not remember this

[grim swallow]

Because even tho calamity doesn't say it but kaleido gives 1.23x damage
So combined with perditus you get insane dps

[grim swallow]

It is quite new I think

[delicate dust]

yeah basegame it's a part of the soundtrack as well

[fair geode]

NO

GOD DAMN IT

i got him to not die

i ran out of fucking health pots

[gloomy wedge]

ok why does the game keep thinking i dont have an antiseed already

i very much do

every time i talk to solyn she just keeps bringing up the ceaseless voids tuff

[fair geode]

yeah

just

plant them

[grim swallow]

She will do that

Her dialogue will change post scal

[fair geode]

lmao you can break this

[fading dove]

because stat tweaks arent reworks

[grim swallow]

Yeah but that is a very high change

Like a very important one

[fading dove]

tooltips lie quite a bit in cal

[gloomy wedge]

what

damn they werent lying the fog IS coming

[waxen tide]

obvioulsy christmass spirit duhh

[grim swallow]

Weirdly enough im post yharon and yet I still didn't get the fog event

And I knownits rng but still

[gloomy wedge]

then ig that means the fog just likes me more

I DONT WANNA HAVE CHRISTMAS SPIRIT ANYMORE

[uncut ocean]

is there a mod/addon that makes all melee weapons (or at least all swords) into true melee?

if not, someone should definitely make it

[slate gull]

who told me to get abyssal mirror?

instead of what

[fiery mango]

hey so

why does leviathan ambergris do legitimately nothing against old duke

[gloomy wedge]

because its bad

hope this helps

[grim swallow]

It does just not wirh elysian aegis

[fiery mango]

wow

[grim swallow]

Because elysian aegis has too much range

[fiery mango]

cool

[slate gull]

@humble marlin sry for ping, wanted to talk for a sec more about the mirror

got it

[fiery mango]

ok so what do i do against this boss instead

[fiery mango]

he's an asshole

[grim swallow]

For OD you want ornate shield+ leviathan shit

[gloomy wedge]

is dark sun ring good for non-summoners

[grim swallow]

I think so

[fiery mango]

y'know i'd have wasted less attempts if the game at any point communicated that to me

[grim swallow]

Wdym?

[humble marlin]

keep it over gop
since it also has a built in dodge

[grim swallow]

But yeah ornage shield with leviathan shit gives exactly same dash length as normal elysian aegis

[humble marlin]

not ornate

asgards valor

ornate gets asgard's lenght with ambergis

[fading dove]

it gives nice bulk and some regen

and summons can help apply debuffs

reminder that you dont need any meaningful investment for summons to do something

[grim swallow]

With ornate and ambergis you can just mash your dash keybind in OD p4

[gloomy wedge]

yharon's giving me shades of old duke

NOT A GOOD SIGN

[elder nebula]

unique ai gif

[slate gull]

okay? also im gonna use betsy wings

they seem good

[humble marlin]

yeah they are

[slate gull]

no bonuses tho

[grim swallow]

Why do 3 infernum bosses in a row have the same gimmick

[slate gull]

but better speed on wings

[humble marlin]

if you are using betsys you csn replace threads with gop

or fairy boots

[gloomy wedge]

also sdfmg goes CRAZY

this weapon is lowkey insane

[slate gull]

oh okay

or maybe gravistar sabaton? or is it that buns

[grim swallow]

Sdfmg is the post dog one?

[humble marlin]

its good but you gotta learn how to use it

[slate gull]

its good for i frames and faster falling speed

good enough?

i will reforge em soon

[gloomy wedge]

yeah

[humble marlin]

yeah good enough
maybe absorber over ampoule

[gloomy wedge]

honestly i dont see the use of it when you have fastfall mounts

[slate gull]

i use the broom for good air control

lol

[slate gull]

is absorber that good?

[humble marlin]

yeah

[slate gull]

also idk if empress wings wont be better for the boss

bcs faster up speed

[humble marlin]

empress/fishrons and betsys are all good choices for him

cant go wrong with either

[slate gull]

okay

ill go with betsys for precision then

should i go with crit, stealth regen or 50/50?

[humble marlin]

3 stealth rest warding

[slate gull]

warding is boring :( ik im not that good at dodging but im no THAT bad

[gloomy wedge]

yeah yharon kinda sucks

this is just old duke but a bit better

[humble marlin]

if you go lucky then you will get damage capped

[gloomy wedge]

warding is best when you can dodge good tbh

[slate gull]

also going from getting hit for 130 to like 120 isnt that good

[gloomy wedge]

it's insurance

[slate gull]

why?

why would they limit ur damage

[grim swallow]

Geldon has reactive damage reduction

[gloomy wedge]

def only gets better when you get more of it

especially warding

[humble marlin]

force a killtime treshhold

[grim swallow]

Unless you sell your soul and sacrifice your brother for dps tou wont kill geldon in under 3:30

[gloomy wedge]

1 warding accessory, its not gonna do much

6 warding accessories, thats 30 defense in hm iirc

[fading dove]

its best to go all warding

[slate gull]

if i go mainly offense and have no defence bcs of that i would like to kill bosses faster

[slate gull]

borring, also im using stealth so i cant

[fading dove]

you can reasonably get a 5 minute time with a bulky build

oh

stealth rogue

[gloomy wedge]

think i killed geldon in 4 minutes with full warding

but admittedly i was using glassmaker

[fading dove]

no fucking clue if it does anything

[gloomy wedge]

so might not be the most fair comparison

[fading dove]

oh yeah what weapon are you using

[grim swallow]

I never reforged into warding

Ever

[slate gull]

i would go menacing + warding on melee prb

[fading dove]

i ask because

[slate gull]

but on stealth rogue i go crit + stealth regen

[fading dove]

85% dr

[gloomy wedge]

real hater shit

[slate gull]

whats that weapon

[fading dove]

javelin from meld

[gloomy wedge]

oh yeah are you playing on infernum or is this just catalyst and nothing else

[slate gull]

ah that, luckily wasnt using that anyways

its buns

hard to aim and dont see a big damage difference

i could prb stop using stellar knife

[elder nebula]

use malachite instead

[grim swallow]

No this is real hater shit

Goozma has a 99% dr from seraphim

[fading dove]

[grim swallow]

[fading dove]

30% stealth malachite resist

[slate gull]

why

[fading dove]

used to annihilate it

[elder nebula]

they're trying to silence my king

[fading dove]

same with stealth antumbra

like without that resist

[slate gull]

is radiant star safe?

[fading dove]

it would get like 1:30

yeah

[grim swallow]

I was stupid and used the phantasy talismans

[fading dove]

but do keep in mind that it has 35% stealth resist during several attacks

[grim swallow]

(the post plantera eclipse ones)

[slate gull]

is 3 silent and 3 warding ok?

[fading dove]

lucky's better than silent if going just one iirc

valor </3

i'd say empress wings and ursa over valor

i can't think of a single time where a slam is useful

on geldon

[slate gull]

how much from melee projectiles

looking at those stats alone it looks super unfair

[fading dove]

thats only during certain attacks

where it either floats around slowly or is straight up just standing still

[slate gull]

whats ursa?

[fading dove]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Ursa_Sergeant

20 defence is huge

[slate gull]

hah no

i aint fishing

[fading dove]

the movement speed reduction is meaningless

[gloomy wedge]

wouldnt movement speed reduction actually be kinda nice on geldon tbh

lets you be a little more precise

[fading dove]

reaver tank, ursa, and empress wings let you nohit

[fair geode]

damn it whatever

ill kill them again i guess

[fading dove]

but yeah ursa's incredibly good and even usable postml

[slate gull]

ok so, this boss just makes stealth rogue useless and u should just /kill myself bcs he resists most of the stuff

[fading dove]

nerfed does not mean useless

[slate gull]

-65% stealth damage

[gloomy wedge]

pretty sure rogue is about as good on geldon as every other class

[slate gull]

and has a damage cap

[fading dove]

thats 45% resist

no

35%

if something takes 90% damage it takes 9/10

35% resist, 65% taken

[slate gull]

i had my whole build around stealth and crit, but i have to just change half of my accesories and reforge everything for this one boss

[fading dove]

you can still do it with stealth

[gloomy wedge]

yes, it's a superboss

[fading dove]

its not like geldon gets hard until like

the 70 minute mark

[gloomy wedge]

geldon is at his hardest during phase 1 tbh

actually died a good few times to that

and first tried phase 2

[fading dove]

i managed to reach the 90 minute mark once but i killed it too fast

so i only got to see 92

trust me geldon is not hard if you have good mobility (empress wings)

[slate gull]

it should let me effectivly use what i have

[fading dove]

get angry at other bosses having resists too

weapons are still effective

[gloomy wedge]

actually might as well post my geldon build but, prob not very helpful considering its infernum ranger

[slate gull]

which ones

[fading dove]

exo mechs

desert scourge

duke fishron

scal

dog

pretty sure old duke has a few

moon lord

cultist

golem

aureus

ravager

leviathan

dont hate geldon just because it has a mechanic that so many other bosses do

[grim swallow]

Im pretty sure all worm bosses have resists to TM

[slate gull]

so either important bosses or one that would be too easy without it

[fair geode]

is this even worth it

[gloomy wedge]

48 gold? i mean personally id sell it for a bit more but thats just me

also whats that acc in slot 1

never seen it before

[slate gull]

oh boy, fishing

so fun

surely wont sit 10 minutes here to finally get it lol

[grim swallow]

How do you have 300 defense as a summonrr bro

[fair geode]

all warding and intergel auric set

[fading dove]

its worse than exoskeleton but its nice if you have a spare 10 summon slots

[fair geode]

i didnt get exoskeleton

so

im gonna have to refight

[fading dove]

immaterialiser is pretty good

[grim swallow]

Whats the hive that like rvery boss here has a resistance to it

[fading dove]

its just that exoskeleton is

[fading dove]

a pbg drop apparently

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/The_Hive

[gloomy wedge]

this weapon is ass btw

its like arc nova diffuser if you made it worse

[fair geode]

?

[fading dove]

its A rank

arc is also A rank

[gloomy wedge]

i just did not enjoy using this honestly

maybe its because blight spewer is just cracked idk

[grim swallow]

I just got a question for myself and other people

Other than virilli what PBG weapons have you used

Cuz I havent used any other than virilli

[gloomy wedge]

blight spewer

the hive

think there was a gun

oh, gauss rifle

plague tainteds mg

pestilent defiler

[slate gull]

gonna fish for it again tmr, used like 10 master bait and got nothing

[spare holly]

plague tainted smg is the best gun in the game

[wise thicket]

"Ranger"
Sees HotE

[gloomy wedge]

its fun

[wise thicket]

fun but it's not for ranger

[gloomy wedge]

thats one weird ass way to spell hellborn

[wise thicket]

it's a summoner accessory

replace it with the Recon Scope

[gloomy wedge]

still beat ml and geldon with it so

dont really care if i couldve optimized it

[fading dove]

?????

it may scale with summoner but it doesnt give any benefits to exclusively summoner

by your logic, all shield slams are melee accessories

[grim swallow]

Why do most bosses get quadrupled with the odd mushroom but nd doesnt

[fading dove]

rendered differently

[smoky dock]

HoTE is a direct and objective upgrade to Rare Sand Elemental in a Bottle

And Rare Sand Elemental is a very potent defensive accessory for everybody

[grim swallow]

Because mars with the mushroom is basically how master vanilla BoC felt in my first playthrough

[smoky dock]

So if one wishes to use the Rare Sand Elemental... why should they not use HotE?

[fading dove]

screen clutter is pretty much the only reason to not use hote

or contribution clutter

[grim swallow]

Also guys

[quartz aurora]

question is it just me or I cant generate getfixedboi seed? Im using Calamity,Infernum,Catalyst,Entropy,Calamity WotG

[grim swallow]

How bad is the idea of glass cannon melee

[fading dove]

infernum is incompatible with secret seeds

[quartz aurora]

oh

[fading dove]

and instantly crashes if you try to generate a world on gfb

[quartz aurora]

welp f

[past pagoda]

rate my loadout up

[fading dove]

also the final boss of wotg is nearly impossible on gfb

it requires massive cheese

[fading dove]

pretty good i think

shadow armour's stronger though iirc

[past pagoda]

im on brain

so

[fading dove]

its preboss

[past pagoda]

like i cant ge that

[quartz aurora]

any alternative seed that make me a challange?

[past pagoda]

oh yeah

ancient shadow 1

[fading dove]

considering you wanted to do infernum gfb, i recommend satanist mode

no other changes

[past pagoda]

wat weapon tho

[fading dove]

just satanist mode

[past pagoda]

is minishark still good

i love it but yeah

[smoky dock]

none of them work on Infernum
It'll be very hard to get a challenge with Entropy enabled

[fading dove]

minishark's alright

uhhhhh

that one crabulon gun

i know its good

[past pagoda]

crab took 4mins with it 🙏

[quartz aurora]

howw does stanist work?

[smoky dock]

Your best bet is to play Infernum with Fargo's Mutant Mod enabled and then just use the health/damage sliders

[past pagoda]

crab gotta stop being #1 tank

[quartz aurora]

I need more info

[fading dove]

it makes the game harder in every way

[smoky dock]

it's an addon for Fargo's Souls

[fading dove]

satanist wall of flesh is the hardest boss in modded terraria

[smoky dock]

Install Souls, install Satanist, done

[quartz aurora]

oh...

[past pagoda]

wait bro

is boomstick

still the goat

[quartz aurora]

welp back to Fargo again

[fading dove]

oh right boomstick

[grim swallow]

Fungicide my goat

[smoky dock]

Good luck on Satanist! Give us updates, okay?

[past pagoda]

https://tenor.com/leCkmeo8J4F.gif

[fading dove]

yeah its probably pretty good

[smoky dock]

bad

[grim swallow]

I will never consider using the aeralite bow when I have fungicide

[grim swallow]

How do yall make these GIFs

I want one with DSA

[past pagoda]

i just searched it up

[smoky dock]

Aww fuck the speedrun got deleted

[quartz aurora]

how can I access Satanist mode?

[fading dove]

its automatically enabled when you enter a world with the mod enabled

[fading dove]

makesweet.com

[limber sage]

this was a huge mistake

masolegdeath gfb is gonna officially ruin me

[spare holly]

the hell is satanist mode

[grim swallow]

Thx

[quartz aurora]

welp Im on Eternity-Death mode

[fading dove]

did you get a prompt to enable ultra hardcore mode

[fading dove]

a punishment for man's hubris

those who seek greater and greater heights will eventually end at satanist mode

[calm leaf]

Whats so hard to master about infernum rogue, what changes?

I want to give it a try but wanna brace myself with some knowladge from here

[grim swallow]

Now I have this

[fading dove]

its just infernum but you play rogue

[calm leaf]

Also whats so hard to master about rogue anyway?

Is it the stealth system?

[grim swallow]

It depends

Do you want to play stealth rogue or spam rogue

[calm leaf]

Why not both?

If focus is needed then ill build up stealth, but when its safer just spam

Thats how i think atleast

[fading dove]

the majority of weapons are strictly stronger with one or the other

[grim swallow]

But tbh both are viable

[fading dove]

its very much weapon dependent

some weapons suck turbo ass with stealth

[grim swallow]

Some weapons are dogwater with spam

[fading dove]

some weapons are post skeletron and get a 2:11 on dragonfolly

[grim swallow]

(yes im looking at you spear of destiny spam you are not cool)

[calm leaf]

I see, so some weapons only are viable at certain playstyles

And then theres the 2:11 dragonfolly one

[fading dove]

slick cane is more of an exception because it's absurdly overpowered

post skeletron rogue is absurd but slick cane shines even brighter than the stars next to it

[gloomy wedge]

arena building while listening to miku is peak tbh

[past pagoda]

bro infernum is easier than i remeber it to be

im up to skeletron and ive beat every boss first try (skipped queen bee dont gotta fight her)

[fading dove]

hornet staff is free damage

[calm leaf]

So i just gotta bring both stealth and spam weapons

[past pagoda]

brittle star staff defensive!

[gloomy wedge]

When used, it thrusts out a short-ranged cane in front of the player which ignores enemy immunity frames.
it does wHAT

[fading dove]

good point i always forget it exists

[past pagoda]

@fading dove rate my loadout

[fair geode]

oh yeah does anyone know the reasoning behind the ceaseless resprite?

[fading dove]

looks pretty tasty

[fading dove]

the huh

[calm leaf]

Wha?

[past pagoda]

ik how to make good loadouts 🤤

[fading dove]

when did ceaseless get a respite what

[fair geode]

no

[calm leaf]

Thats what im wondering

[fair geode]

they want to resprite him

i want to know why

cause the resprite looks ass

[calm leaf]

How does it look?

[past pagoda]

cv my #1 op

[fading dove]

thats like

[past pagoda]

hot

i would smash

[fading dove]

several years old

[past pagoda]

jk

[fair geode]

oh?

huh

[calm leaf]

Im sad theyre removing the angler cheat

Aka the 2 thrasher strat

[fading dove]

im happy because now you have to engage with the mechanic to reap its rewards

[calm leaf]

Or install the angler shop mod

Which is somewhat balamced

The gold rod is like 50 gold

[gloomy wedge]

50 gold is not very much

[fair geode]

20 gold

[fading dove]

isnt that the sell price

[fair geode]

yeah

oh

wait

[limber sage]

I just realized

[fair geode]

im stupid nvm

[limber sage]

I'm just stupid af and should pay more attention

EoC: 9k hp
DS: 62k hp

[fading dove]

curse of worm

[limber sage]

and now I have optic staff

maybe now i can handle ds

[fading dove]

i think ds would still be decently tankable

if you use fossil ench

considering that i did eternity death desert scourge in 4 seconds

[smoky dock]

well worms have a zillion segments so naturally their HP will inflate

[fading dove]

its also gfb

so ds has massively inflated health

[limber sage]

masolegdeath gfb ya

[fading dove]

ml will very much be a roadblock btw

[past pagoda]

dude

shinobi blade stealth with rage is INSANE

i did 9% per hit

[fading dove]

ml is one of two eternity bosses with gfb changes

the change?

true eyes desync over time

on top of everything masoleg ml has

[limber sage]

I feel lunatic is gonna stop me first

as he tends to

[fading dove]

oh yeah

you also have to manually sync the eyes

trolled

i dont think the wacky bullshit drops that cal adds will save you from ml

oh wait no

you get lunar armour

i'd still recommend using gaia because ml is entirely immune to wrong class on masoleg

[gloomy wedge]

dashslop 2

and hey, its on another fishron clone

[fading dove]

which one was dashslop 1

[gloomy wedge]

old duke

[fading dove]

dog isnt dashslop?

[fair geode]

yeah exactly

[gloomy wedge]

dog is dashslop /pos

[fair geode]

ig who the fuck does infernum old duke anyway

old shit can rot without a fight for all i care

[gloomy wedge]

i had to do infernum old duke

i do not recommend anyone do infernum old duke

install wotg just to bypass that fight tbh

[fair geode]

infernum overrides wotg

so

[gloomy wedge]

either way current enjoyment list

[fair geode]

i should not be drinking and doing exos

btui who care

[gloomy wedge]

also new hack found to beat yharon super free

just listen to miku while you fight him

anyways, is next boss aew, exos, or scal

[fading dove]

jared is next

[fair geode]

man cosmic immeterializer fucking sucks for exos

[fading dove]

hey at least it isnt atlas beacon

[fair geode]

atlas doesnt take 10 minion slots

[fading dove]

i remember when atlas had zero opportunity cost

like it straight up just didnt take any sentry slots

[grim swallow]

Cadaverous shitter

[grim swallow]

Summoner is hard because you need to optimize your minions

Like wdym I have 4 different summons

[mental shuttle]

It's back..

[fiery mango]

yo cosmic shiv is actually decent for yharon

cool

i wonder if there's anything stronger, probably right?

[heavy moat]

Post-moon lord modding is RUINED

[fair geode]

nooo

[fathom saffron]

For some reason I dont see the cosmic background during the DoG fight anymore in Infernum

[mental shuttle]

Come on, man.

[heavy void]

does remnants work with calamity eternity

[fair geode]

fianlly

whats the most optimal loadout for exoskeleton again?

[vital mulch]

billions must tiershift

[fair geode]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KML-GhcJcoM oh yeah this was the baiter guy i was talking about a while back

[gloomy wedge]

wdym

[fair geode]

thats the guy who just kinda clickbaits

[smoky dock]

Depends on a lot of factors

[fair geode]

hm

[gloomy wedge]

damn, jared is hard

[fiery mango]

cosmic shiv is cool but i spend a lot of time in the start of phase 2 with it

better melee for yharon??

[fair geode]

holy shit

no way

[gloomy wedge]

fighting this after yharon is like an oasis of precise movement after an onslaught of dashslop

it feels so good to fight this boss

i just wish the final phase went on for longer

[bleak quiver]

yo people

how do i get the archerfish?

the ancient treasure chests didnt spawn

im on infernum

[gloomy wedge]

thats intentional

you need to craft it iirc

[bleak quiver]

yeah i just saw that i can craft it

i literally spent

1 hour

searching the abyss

[gloomy wedge]

yeah infernum reworks the abyss

[bleak quiver]

dang thats cool

i thought it was the abyss rework from base calamity

[gloomy wedge]

so how exactly am i supposed to dodge ares' laser swords

[fading dove]

shield slam

[fair geode]

amazing item

[fiery mango]

I'm a little embarrassed

I died to Yharon's dying bullet hell before I won the fight

[gloomy wedge]

shoutouts to pogo stick

[fiery mango]

I beat him shortly after but that stings

[gloomy wedge]

using that shit from pre-boss to pre-scal

[smoky dock]

NOOOO LOL

yharon desp is the biggest fucking meme

[fiery mango]

I'll be okay 🥲

[gloomy wedge]

theres a pretty easy explanation for this, you werent listening to miku

[feral trellis]

is a tank build or glass cannon build better for exo mechs

infernum

[smoky dock]

tank

weapons and defensive/hybrid options are so strong compared to the offensive ones it’s tough to justify the opportunity cost

plus a glass cannon build doesn’t really offer much of a margin of error at all so it’s more likely to make one mistake and die without being able to process feedback and improve

defensive ones are still plenty strong and yet offer much more of a buffer to be able to make mistakes and learn from them, or to succeed despite making mistakes

i’m a nohitter, I nohit, and from doing nohits I can tell you that glass cannon builds fucking suck

[humble marlin]

nuh huh

run everclear 24/7 trust

[slim sphinx]

[heavy zinc]

everclear my beloved

[fiery mango]

It’s amazing how with Old Duke and DoG I can go from hating the mod with a passion to genuinely having so much fun

It’s strange even to me how much I love Infernum DoG

[fluid remnant]

<@&225032353137819651> I Found main problem with eternity from fargo souls + infernum from calamity on vanilla bosses

King slime and duke fishron are so fast that they sometime go offscreen.
Eye of cthulhu and the twins attack patern was bugged.
Skeletron and skeletron prime can’t die.
Bee queen despawn.
Brain of cthulhu sometime despawn when is about to die.
Eater of world can’t be hurt.
Deerclops and lunatic cultist don’t have eternity AI.
Wall of flesh eye don’t have eternity AI when released.
Destroyer keep going foward during is circle attack.
Queen slime protection not show and not remove directly when she teleport.
Plantera final phase don’t work.
Golem’s head was stuck inside is body.
Empress of light miss some eternity attack.
Moon lord’s eye sometime don’t take damage or don’t spawn true eye of cthulhu.

[fiery mango]

Holy text

[smoky ether]

Is there any way to make WotG work on an already made calamity world?

[fair geode]

no

well i dont think so

[smoky ether]

dang, was looking forward to that lol. Forgot it was disabled when we made the mod. got too far, don't wanna redo everything now 😦

[white dagger]

What’s the easiest and hardest class in infernum?

[smoky dock]

the mods don’t have any power over that

Souls and Infernum will likely never be compatible

[smoky dock]

Easiest is… that’s a trick question, because every class is harder than classless
Hardest is hard to say. The game is pretty well balanced

[fiery mango]

5 attempts to beat Infernum DoG this run 🎉

I’m at a point where I can no longer see how people find this fight hard. This is a problem.

[smoky dock]

It’s best to switch up your ‘class’ based on whatever is most appealing/accessible/effective in the moment

[fiery mango]

The hardest attack, his fireball charges, I no-hit it this time

I guess I can see how he’s hard but not a roadblock

[smoky dock]

Class runs are BY DEFINITION challenge runs, challenge runs are harder than normal runs, so class runs are harder than normal runs

[fiery mango]

Old Duke, for being the first ram-dash centric boss, by the way, is so overtuned it’s unreal

DoG is easy peasy
You can ram every single charge from Yharon even in his final phase

Old Duke’s final phase is stupid

Why is what’s basically a tutorial boss forcing you to pull the hardest dodges out of the three?

[fair geode]

chapstixx was inasne for that classless only run

[fiery mango]

Chapstixx is in general an insane man

[smoky dock]

I’m going to do a classless run just to prove it’s not allat

[heavy zinc]

neither fargo's souls or infernum intend to add compatibility between the 2 modes, they're inherently incompatible as full boss reworks.
also, why would you attempt to ping moderators about this? this isn't something we can do anything about lmao

[smoky dock]

I genuinely cannot fathom how classless can be difficult outside of phm

[heavy zinc]

classless but you can't use accessories to deal damage it has to all be brute force with the shitty weapons

[fiery mango]

I’ll also say Cosmic Shiv for being a donor weapon is surprisingly
Actually cool

[smoky dock]

and then you reset the run at DoG because you forgot that Elysian Aegis deals damage

[heavy zinc]

yep

no ram dashes allowed

[gloomy wedge]

how do i make my pc not implode when fighting infernum exos

[fiery mango]

Decently strong, good visuals, not a meme,

Cosmic Shiv is genuinely a competent weapon

[smoky dock]

I know there’s another donor weapon which doesn’t feel very donor-y and is still really good

[fiery mango]

Compare it to Lion Heart which is literally a broadsword clone but with a ridiculously high damage stat

[gloomy wedge]

apparently tyranny's end is a donor weapon

[fair geode]

i have no clue what im doing

[fiery mango]

Is Lion Heart even useful outside of the context of Infernum?
I have doubts base DoG is anywhere near aggressive enough for it to be good

[smoky dock]

no clue

[fiery mango]

It shreds Infernum DoG because there’s not a second he’s not up in your face

[fiery mango]

guess that’s what happens when the Cyborg of all NPCs sells the thing

[smoky dock]

Cryogenic Staff

[smoky dock]

That’s the one I liked

[fiery mango]

Yea there are good ones

And there’s Marksmans Bow

[smoky dock]

Hadal Urn
Caustic Staff
Ataraxia
Death’s Ascention
Dragon Pow
Tenryū

Stellar Torii

and yeah, Tyranny’s End too

[fiery mango]

Oh yeah Dragon Pow is a donor item

Yea those are cool ones

[empty flame]

thats a pretty good list

[fiery mango]

Hadal Urn for a mage weapon is very cool

[empty flame]

love tenyru

[smoky dock]

Profaned Soul Artifact too I think is really good as a donor item

Profaned Soul Crystal feels a bit too dense imo

Looking through the list, there are a good few donor items which I didn’t include because they had something… unusual about them that made them more easily spottable as not official

[gloomy wedge]

first time killing one of the exos

[smoky dock]

Those ones I talked about are pretty much indistinguishable from official content, I like ‘em

[gloomy wedge]

(i immediately died to the next phase bc i wasnt expecting thanatos to just Spawn In Like That)

flurrystorm cannon feels like it fits in pretty well

[smoky dock]

dodge plus sealocket >:(

[smoky dock]

oh yeah that too

overlooked it because rang*r

I haven’t used most of the weapons there unfortunately so I can’t glean their official-ness

[gloomy wedge]

listen i get it, im suffering from ranger right now, it sucks

but i think most of the donor weapons are like, fine

[empty flame]

so

[smoky dock]

Yeah, now that I think about it

I agree

[empty flame]

does raw luck increase critical strike chance?

[smoky dock]

No

Luck is pretty dense of an effect so it’s best you just read up on the vanilla wiki for a comprehensive list of effects

I do not know how the Old Die works

[gloomy wedge]

now if we wanna talk donor items that feel really weird

[smoky dock]

Aaaand Calamity removes the effect on damage deviation from luck

[smoky dock]

hate that thing

rang*r

[gloomy wedge]

this shit requires knowledge on quantum mechanics to actually use

[smoky dock]

Virili

[gloomy wedge]

actually i dont wanna shit on others but the worst donor thing in the game is goldfish warrior

[smoky dock]

hey man

[gloomy wedge]

i dont want your tin helmets god damn it

[smoky dock]

he’s my man

don’t shit talk my boy Fearless Goldfish Warrior

[gloomy wedge]

if he didnt drop tin helmets AND magic daggers, maybe i wouldnt

[smoky dock]

I really like it, feels like something from vanilla Terraria

[empty flame]

oh right yeah during my 50 or so DoG attempts last night a goblin army spawned twice

[gloomy wedge]

its exclusively the inventory clutter thats annoying for me

[empty flame]

quite annoying

[smoky dock]

oh valid

without autotrash that can be annoying

inventory space has historically been problematic to me 😔

[empty flame]

encumbering stone 💔

i like it but i wish you could still pick up money

seems stupid

[smoky dock]

i have an idea of how to solve that

just put a singular, worthless stackable object in every inventory slot. Bonus points if you actually meed to carry it around anyways (like healing potions)

then when you wanna pick something up just stack it with the rest of your things

[compact hedge]

whats the best ranger weapon pre providence

[smoky dock]

superradiant scatterer

[gloomy wedge]

slaughterer

[smoky dock]

or whatever the hell it’s supposed to be called

[gloomy wedge]

but yeah superradiant is BROKEN

[smoky dock]

what do the liberals call it?

[gloomy wedge]

superradiant slaughTHEY/THEMer

[smoky dock]

REAL

[gloomy wedge]

seriously this weapon is the best choice for guardians, providence, storm weaver, signus, ceaseless, and polter

and its a pretty damn good choice on old duke too

[smoky dock]

the best part? it tricks you into not playing rang*r

[compact hedge]

thanks guys😭

[real cipher]

guys can you help me