calamity-addon-talk

[smoky dock]

“it’s a glass cannon clas sbro. that’s why it kills so fast it’s because it’s fragile bro”

[grim swallow]

Yeah until you decide to have a challenge and make yourself suffer

[smoky dock]

the nefarious half dozen armor sets which’re apeshit fat

[grim swallow]

I do NOT like DoG in my current run

"uh-oh your game lagged, looks like you didnt dash, you know what that means, 1.2k dmg"

[daring python]

alright so I just finished my infernum true melee run after a lot of on and off (especially pml), what should I do next, infernum bow only, or fargo dlc (first time), both with wotg, cata, hunt (if those work with fargo dlc)

someone help me out here decision paralysis is real

[smoky dock]

Infernum true melee AGAIN

it’s peam i promise

[daring python]

it was a ton of fun

took a solid month break between dog and yharon and again before exos

[smoky dock]

Yeah it happens

Pre-hardmode especially is a chore imo. I love true melee, it's my baby, but the sixth boss in a row where the solution is "Volcano debuff abuse" is not very entertaining

Recently I beat argus and UGH it was pam

[daring python]

I think Imma save a TM rerun for another big update down the road but I 100% agree that its like, the best subclass in terms of fun

[grim swallow]

Uhh
How about book mage infernum with a fuck ton of addons

[smoky dock]

I'm procrastinating on doing geldon tmelee

[daring python]

it wasnt terrible from what I remember

just a lil long

[smoky dock]

well geldon is always 3:30 so

[daring python]

that was ages ago tho zzzz

[daring python]

oh true

timed dr my beloved

[smoky dock]

but this is a nohit so it's different

[daring python]

ohhhh

yeah gl

[smoky dock]

it might be a bit tough but since RDR is a thing I don't need to stress about using strong weapons or robust offense setups

[daring python]

already done a book mage zzz

[grim swallow]

Have you done both rogues?

And we need to start treating rogue subclasses like melee subclasses
Steth rogue is true rogue

[daring python]

I need to play rogue more especially in infernum

[soft ferry]

how on EARTH do i dodge that part in infernum providence where her crystal decides to go and spam crosses so hard i literally can't figure out what i'm being hit by and die 5 seconds in? (not an exaggeration)

[grim swallow]

You fly carefully next to the crosses

And if needed you use relocator

And then you die to dogma

And you do that 5 more times

[soft ferry]

i still died because i got hit 3 times in a row at what felt like the very frame my i-frames from the previous hit wore off

[grim swallow]

Thats why if you get hit you immediately reposition yourself

But yeah that attack is insane

Just pray

[soft ferry]

also how can i get to that temple faster? the journey there lasts longer than the actual fight

[grim swallow]

Wayfinder or whatever

[spring ravine]

OMG WHAT I BEAT DUKE FIRST TRY THIS IS INCREDIBLE NO WAY

[grim swallow]

Congrats

[warm dirge]

GG

[crimson hamlet]

Me when dot

[smoky dock]

geldon sub-3:30 is really, really hard

[crimson hamlet]

(You can get like what 2:50 if you debuff-max with damage over time)

I swear I heard that somewhere

Whatever the fastest possible time is is probably not possible anymore due to no more Kami flu

[grim swallow]

I did geldon in like 3:31 on 2x hp am I goated

[crimson hamlet]

Also I’ve done sub-3:30

You need like two or three damage over time debuffs

Because dot bypasses all damage resistance

[smoky dock]

The fastest the devs have managed to get was 3:12 iirc

sub-3:30 is not *too hard
3:29 is very common

3:28 is a little tougher but not outrageously difficult

3:27 is a dream

[crimson hamlet]

I find it funny that they went to so many lengths to preserve astrageldon’s difficulty

But they forgot to give him debuff immunity

[grim swallow]

Or did they intend that

Because I am not complaining I was going full PBG mode on him

[crimson hamlet]

Probably not

[smoky dock]

Debuffs aren't enough to trivialize geldon

[grim swallow]

I loved seeing argus have like 8 debuffs or so

It's so funny

[crimson hamlet]

Dude they gave him damage resistance to specific weapons that were considered meta they 100% would’ve patched debuff cheese if they remembered to

[crimson hamlet]

They really are depending on the class

[grim swallow]

And speaking of debuffs

[crimson hamlet]

Summoner is easy to do it with

[smoky dock]

No, summoner is the best at debuffs and it still gets 3:30

[grim swallow]

Do I have a good flask rn

[crimson hamlet]

I got like 3:20 I think

I timed that shit

[grim swallow]

Because I have been running ichor for a long time

[crimson hamlet]

I have no proof though so I don’t blame you if you don’t believe me

[crimson hamlet]

When is rn

[smoky dock]

I'll need some verification on that because I was doing it myself and I couldn't get sub-3:30 even with the best build I could find at the time

[crimson hamlet]

What build

[smoky dock]

600,000 debuff DoT damage

[grim swallow]

Pre DoG

[crimson hamlet]

Holy flames or crumbling

[smoky dock]

It was a while ago but it used like, uhhhhh
a lot of viral sprouts and three weapons

[smoky dock]

I will scream at the top of my lungs that holy flames is turbo dogshit ass and it's BAD

[crimson hamlet]

Did you use yanmei’s knife

[smoky dock]

flask at that stage is pretty irrelevant since the benefits are so small compared to the power level

[smoky dock]

No, this was post-Yanmei

[fair geode]

oh yeah prikki i locked in today

[smoky dock]

🎉

[grim swallow]

So I use crumbling?

[crimson hamlet]

That’s your problem

[grim swallow]

Because 10 less defense on DoG is smth if

[smoky dock]

OH you're on DoG

Okay the meta flask for DoG is

Without hyperbole

[crimson hamlet]

Yanmei’s is so busted it’s honestly a good thing that it got removed

[smoky dock]

Flask of Party

[fair geode]

now i gotta lock in for night provi

[crimson hamlet]

Shut

[smoky dock]

I was using Flask of Party for a sily DoG challenge and eventually removed it because it made the game too easy

[crimson hamlet]

Wdym too easy

It just spawns harmless confetti right-?

[smoky dock]

The dusts caused lag which made the game render in slow motion

[crimson hamlet]

Oh

OH

[smoky dock]

Using it had 75% slowdown

[crimson hamlet]

BRO SIMULATED MULTIPLAYER

[smoky dock]

After removing it, that went to 85% slowdown

errrr

uh, like... 75% FIGHT SPEED

and 85% fight speed

[grim swallow]

HUH?

[smoky dock]

not slowdown...

[smoky dock]

look at dog's debuff immunities

look at which flasks inflict debuffs

[grim swallow]

What does party flask do

[smoky dock]

[smoky dock]

this

[crimson hamlet]

lag the game

Have you ever played multiplayer

Or rather

Have you ever played spy in tf2

[grim swallow]

Unfortunately no

I do not have enough braincells

[crimson hamlet]

Lag is quite a powerful weapon

[smoky dock]

All flasks generate particles which contribute to lag, except Flask of Party is the only one that does it as its primary effect, so it does it the best

[smoky dock]

WhereIsMySalad

[crimson hamlet]

Spy mains when their mom fixes the router (they suck now no more face stabs)

[smoky dock]

i'm gonna try and get back to the sub-3:25 geldon grind... i can do better

[grim swallow]

So I purposefully lag my game to react ro his attacks?

[heavy moat]

Using flasks for lag generation and thus better gameplay reaction is bonkers

[smoky dock]

Look what I'm saying is that your flask is completely irrelevant

[crimson hamlet]

Yall devs gotta start accounting for that

[heavy moat]

GameLags = false;

[smoky dock]

If you want to be spoon fed the optimal setup, you will no longer be playing the video game

[fair geode]

im guessing im good for it?

[crimson hamlet]

Where onion-?

[fair geode]

(yes im doing the first provi fight at night because yes)

[grim swallow]

I remember that my best attempt on inf yharon first time was with a screenshare in 40 fps

[fair geode]

blind much

?

[smoky dock]

The optimal SCal setup for example requires a world arena and thousands of platinum worth of wires and teleporters and thousands of words worth of heart statues

[crimson hamlet]

Did I miscount

[grim swallow]

Would watching a screen share and doing one myself increase the lag to have even more time

[grim swallow]

Elaborate

Why do you neeb world arena

[crimson hamlet]

TRUE

[grim swallow]

If she is immortal when enraged

[smoky dock]

well once you have 170,000 HP/s of regen then she can't really do much to threaten you

[crimson hamlet]

Optimal dog Strat is just simulating multiplayer lag

[smoky dock]

The more optimal you try to play, the less you will enjoy the game

Please do not try

[crimson hamlet]

Devourer is the sole reason why infernum multiplayer is impossible

[grim swallow]

Reminds me of that one time when I lagged so bad on vanilla fishron I was just a punching bag

[crimson hamlet]

Screw you, full lucky

[grim swallow]

My friend solo killed him and obly 4 minutes later I got the bag

[crimson hamlet]

Lucky is better I will fucking die on that hill

[grim swallow]

I got 7 bags tho

[crimson hamlet]

Lucky FEELS better at least

[smoky dock]

Did you do the math on every hitbox and damage deviation range to calculate the expected damage output of Lucky

[heavy moat]

Turn the game into an interesting optimization experience where you try to find near-perfect strats on your own
Like Mappy
(Note: Enjoyment not likely if you get these optimized experiences from someone else

[smoky dock]

Let me see your calculations, did you do it in LaTeX?

[crimson hamlet]

Nah, luckmaxxing

[grim swallow]

Imaginary technique
Shit pc

[smoky dock]

With optimal luck then lucky is irrelevant because you're theoretically capable of critting on every single attack with the base 4% crit chance

[crimson hamlet]

I did this with Ultrakill and it was more fun than playing the game normally

Which isn’t saying much because I don’t like ultrakill much

[smoky dock]

Please reverse engineer Terrairia's RNG mechanism and invent a way of RNG manipulation I will give you a medal (and everyone else will too because nobody's been able to do it)

[crimson hamlet]

It depends on how terraria does rng

[smoky dock]

Just play the game how you see fit and do the best that you can, it's okay to not use the "perfect" setup

[heavy moat]

I've halfheartedly tried before
The problem is the fact that a single RNG is used for basically everything (with world generation being an exception), and is muddled beyond recognition by things like random world events (such as corruption spread) that influence successive states to the RNG seed

[smoky dock]

(Nobody has been able to and nobody will ever be able to use the perfect setup)

[crimson hamlet]

If it does it with a number queue, it can be manipulated decently easily if terraria has TAS tools (I have no clue if it does)

[smoky dock]

It does not

[crimson hamlet]

Oh yeah true

[grim swallow]

Lucky/silent may be optimal
Will I ever use not full menacing?

No

[crimson hamlet]

Someone develop TAS tools first terraria

[crimson hamlet]

Silent becomes sub optimal past 2 accessories with it

[smoky dock]

Lucky/silent is not optimal, nor is menacing, nor is warding nor quick nor arcane

Optimal setups likely have ascended past the need for weaponry

[crimson hamlet]

Fucking around with Devourer with a tas sounds funny as fuck

[grim swallow]

Is it the melee speed one then

[smoky dock]

no i just forgot about that one

[crimson hamlet]

“Devourer but there is a singular pixel between my hitbox and his”

[smoky dock]

Your entire setup is irrelevant because no possible setup is able to defeat anything faster than 1 tick

And a 1 tick kill is possible with no equipment at all

[grim swallow]

Just dont spawn in the boss

If its not here its dead

[smoky dock]

Please do not try to find the optimal setup because you will quickly evolve into such a husk of what the intended gameplay is right now

[heavy moat]

My funny gear setup versus the nefarious minecart + nondespawning single-pierce projectiles clumping together towards a boss whose position is being manipulated by my spawn setup to always appear immediately atop the projectile clump, thus causing a frame one defeat:

[smoky dock]

You will invent something so exotic and unrecognizable that it's not possible to be considered as the same 'game'

[soft ferry]

i still loathe the cross attack and not once have i gotten past it

[crimson hamlet]

Alternatively, seek out the most suboptimal setup possible

[grim swallow]

Why get optimal setup when you can get funnt set up

[smoky dock]

[crimson hamlet]

Or do stupid shit like yo-yos only infernum like I am

[grim swallow]

Drugged alcoholic with 50 defense build

[crimson hamlet]

(Calamity please buff the lacerator I want a viable dog yoyo)

[smoky dock]

the most suboptimal setup possible is also completely irrelevant because it's falling stars

[heavy moat]

Imagine fight DoG but you don't use any weapons and wait for falling stars to naturally defeat him

Lucky pacifist%

[crimson hamlet]

If it hits the head would it one shot

[heavy moat]

Not even close

[smoky dock]

DoG fight except you lure him into naturally generated dart traps

[crimson hamlet]

How much damage do falling stars do

[heavy moat]

~1000

[smoky dock]

iirc 1,000

[crimson hamlet]

[grim swallow]

DoG fight but you hit him with the tombstones on GFB

[crimson hamlet]

Ah I just need 17,000 of them then

[smoky dock]

no you need more

because DoG's body segments have like... 50 defense? 90?

and a 92.5% DR

[crimson hamlet]

Oh yeah I forgot dog is stupid like that

[grim swallow]

Fatass worm

[heavy moat]

tbh over the thousands of hours I've found myself a bit annoyed with how far away falling stars make their loud sounds

[crimson hamlet]

Wait Lucille what’s your playtime

[heavy moat]

Shameful

[crimson hamlet]

Like total

Across all platforms you’ve played on

[crimson hamlet]

Oooo

[river lark]

that's a couple hours there

[crimson hamlet]

How long you been playing

Since what update

You might beat me

[soft ferry]

what should I improve before my next infernum providence attempt? (apart from working on my sheer lack of skill of course)

[smoky dock]

i assume that armor set is stardust

zased as shit toxic heart btw

uhhhhh you don't seem to be using sentries so rexolve that issue. you get three

[crimson hamlet]

I don’t have nearly as many hours (my best guess is I have 1.5-2k) but I’ve been playing since like early 1.0, not launch though

I do know I played before dungeon guardian was a thing

[rich sand]

best order against exo mech inf?

[smoky dock]

You are not using The Absorber and Ambrosial Ampoule which is a big dela

[soft ferry]

but i only get two? and the sentries basically tickle the boss

[crimson hamlet]

I didn’t play much back then as I was like 4-5 years old but I did play

[rich sand]

the top dude is hella annoying

[soft ferry]

i'm going to ignore this

[crimson hamlet]

Absorber more like goatsorber

[smoky dock]

It's largely personal preference. Generally it's a good idea to avoid fighting Ares alone, sooooo... consider A&A + Ares or Thanatos + Ares

Order matters

[smoky dock]

You get a third via War Table
Rainbow Crystals are infamous for stomping the hell out of Providence

sentries in general are a coin flip between "oh my fucking god how does this ever get anything done" or "oh my fucking god how did this get past testing"

[soft ferry]

oh great i have to deal with old one's army

[smoky dock]

Nothing's stopping you from just not

You can just move on without War Table, not the end of the world

[soft ferry]

oh great i don't have to deal with the old one's army!!!

[rich sand]

how do i dodge the beam

the area beam'

[crimson hamlet]

I should do a sentry only run

[rich sand]

ares

its so annoying

[crimson hamlet]

What combo are you doing

[rich sand]

thantos + areas

ares

[crimson hamlet]

Really?

[smoky dock]

it's fun and pretty smooth sailing up until DoG
then it gets kinda rocky and then it's insurmountable for exos

[smoky dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112873622562947104/1354258069671903263/rw1.webp

[crimson hamlet]

I find hunters then ares easier

[rich sand]

im using the seraphim

[crimson hamlet]

I’d like you to know I’m struggling to breathe as I type this idk why this is funny

[smoky dock]

thumbsup~2

[rich sand]

lovely

i understand

i gotta get in closer

[crimson hamlet]

I choked on my fucking yogurt man

[smoky dock]

Yep, exactly

[crimson hamlet]

Also this is just how to dodge all of terraria

[smoky dock]

It's called Angular Velocity and it's a good thing to know

[soft ferry]

anyways, my damage is fine, it's just. the crosses. i hate that cross spam attack. they feel undodgeable

that is my one and only problem with my fight so far

that specific cross attack

[smoky dock]

Everybody hates them dw

[rich sand]

OFC HE USES IT ON TOP OF THE MAP

[smoky dock]

Have you considered Absorber

[rich sand]

im using it

[smoky dock]

And/or Ampoule of the Ambrosial variety

[rich sand]

wait absorber?

im using sponge

[crimson hamlet]

Both

Absorber gives regen

[dusky ingot]

Anybody know why my terraria might be lagging slightly recently? The main content mods I got are: WotG, calamity, infernum and catalyst

[crimson hamlet]

Regen is fucking insane

[smoky dock]

no for YOU, for YOU Mr. Challenging The Exo Mechs, Absorber and Ampoule are not a big deal

[dusky ingot]

Cause I get an average of like 50 FPS in terraria, which I think should be higher

[crimson hamlet]

A) hey that’s my old mod loadout
B) probably wotg idk if it’s been optimized yet

[smoky dock]

WotG has some known global performance issues currently

[soft ferry]

nononoNO nope

[crimson hamlet]

Absorber is so stacked though

There’s a reason there’s no cosmilite or auric tier absorber

[smoky dock]

What about The Ambrosia contained within the delightful Ampoule

[dusky ingot]

Damn, that sucks, I remember hearing it was optimized pretty well

[crimson hamlet]

Also if the devs add an exo weapon yoyo I will literally worship them

[soft ferry]

what on EARTH does any of this even mean? this is just a bunch of random numbers and words thrown carelessly into one accessory, i genuinely don't see the point of this weird green thing

[smoky dock]

It's because it does a lot of things at once
I can break it down for you:

[dusky ingot]

crap ton of survivability

[smoky dock]

10 defense reduces incoming damage
The movement and jump speed improves general mobility
Knockback immunity removes Asgard's Valor's niche for the fight
The Absorber Affliction improves offense
Regeneraga Sphere cancels Holy Fire and improves offense and defense
The health rebate improves defense

Each one independently is nice to have. Not really worth a slot but... appreciated.

All of them at the same time is incredibly powerful

[soft ferry]

well that's nice

still have no idea how to deal with providence vomiting out 573 crosses

[smoky dock]

That's okay, while you're learning, you can widen your margin of error so you can afford to make more mistakes

YOu will be able to more reliably make it there and you'll be able to more reliably stumble through

[dusky ingot]

Any recommendations for infernum Dog for a mage?

[soft ferry]

how do I not have this??? how is this the only thing i have missing for the absorber??

crazy

[smoky dock]

That's okay, there are a few ways to get it

[soft ferry]

any other playthrough they'll fill up my inventory

[rich sand]

what do i replace for absorber

ignore that one slot

[fading dove]

lava chicken broth coming soon

[white dagger]

man wof is so hard

like

[boreal sigil]

what is this

[white dagger]

hover over them

[fading dove]

It approaches.

[white dagger]

how do you even dodge the laser attack thing

[fading dove]

Its purpose will be clear soon enough.

what difficulty

[white dagger]

they blend in perfectly with the background

infernum master

[fading dove]

alright so

[white dagger]

I can get to around 30-40% before dying

[fading dove]

they shoot when theyre orthagonal

go diagonally

[boreal sigil]

i’m confused i just beat DOG its been here sense providence

[fiery mango]

People circling the giant rift taking up the entire ass background will never not be funny

[white dagger]

no

not those

the other attack

[fading dove]

oh the walls

idk its always been easy for me

[white dagger]

the lasers blend in with the background

I get hit like 3 times

[fading dove]

oh the magma beam

[white dagger]

the little lasers

[fading dove]

nothings purple what

the background is orange and dark brown

[boreal sigil]

its purpose will be soon enough it’s been 4 bosses, 6 weapons and 8 new accessory’s sense it’s been like this

[white dagger]

I'll rec a run

[fading dove]

It draws closer. There's nothing that can be done yet.

Perhaps after the magnum opus of the mechanic?

[soft ferry]

update: figured out how to deal with providence vomiting out 573 crosses. actually managed to get adrenaline so providence died right after

[white dagger]

@fading dove

faiv billion leeches and barely visible lasers

and hungrys

[fading dove]

oh its the fucked up texture pack

[fiery mango]

“The fucked up texture pack” lmao

I’m pretty sure its a dead ass texture pack too

[fading dove]

tip for texture packs: dont resprite projectiles that are used in high saturation environments

forgot about that

[fiery mango]

What

[slow sail]

wait and see

[fair geode]

best provi attempt god damn it

i guess ill at least learn the night fight

[fading dove]

alright yeah the heart statue spam is needed

without elysian aegis

not exactly having a good time

[white dagger]

is there any better ranged weapon than goobow

[fair geode]

i could just beat her in the day and be done

but idk

[white dagger]

fucking hungries are impossible to hit

[gloomy wedge]

what can i do for polterghast to not be utterly painful for ranger

[gloomy wedge]

i think archerfish is pretty good

[limber sage]

close range archerfish shreds

[round panther]

calamitas shrine yippeeeeee

very proud

[elder nebula]

holy peak

[round panther]

[limber sage]

the infernum relics look better in the shrines

[fading dove]

and i mean this dense

[limber sage]

isn't there a limit to how many hearts statues can even spawn?

[round panther]

dear god

[fading dove]

yeah

thats why i've got heartreach

[round panther]

bros getting more hearts than a racist instagram comment

[gloomy wedge]

wanna guess what weapon did the most damage by far in this fight

[limber sage]

the saw?

[gloomy wedge]

YUP

i am now post-polter and this weapon is still better than every other option available to me

[humble marlin]

ranger moment

[fair geode]

first try on day lmao

[gloomy wedge]

i dont know if this is ranger being bad or slaughterer being INSANE

[humble marlin]

both

[limber sage]

https://tenor.com/view/both-mylife-gif-23502316

[compact hedge]

i might be undergeared

7 minute fight damn

[limber sage]

makes me wonder how long low% fights are

[gloomy wedge]

might try low% infernum once im done with this playthrough tbh

seems kinda fun

[limber sage]

the 9 boss low%?

[fading dove]

that requires doing eidolists preboss

eidolists only actually spawn if you get near

they spawn in layer 3 of the abyss

[compact hedge]

anybody know how big the moonlord arena is?

[gloomy wedge]

sure why not

anyways now that ive adjusted to rift eclipse, its kinda nice tbh

only bad part is that all the water in my oceans are frozen

[fading dove]

this is like jorjor wells' book

uhhh

1974

[gloomy wedge]

nah i think youre thinking of 1894

old duke fucking sucks

this shit is dashslop

[elder nebula]

truth and real

[fair geode]

this is gonna suck lmao

300 dps average

and idk if its still a thing either

fuck

whatever im not doing this

[smoky dock]

what the fuck

are you doing

[gloomy wedge]

mom come pick me up im scared

[white dagger]

DAMN

[gloomy wedge]

win's a win

[white dagger]

didn't even reach 50%

gg ez

[smoky dock]

ah

consider Ol' Fashioned

[fair geode]

?

oh

[smoky dock]

also Intergelactic armor might break the rules

For safety's sake switch to Valhalla Knight

[fair geode]

got it

but idk if i wanna do that

[elder nebula]

you must prove your devotion

to be worthy of the crystal

[waxen tide]

nah that just what happens with new weapons

I wonder how many SSO reworks will be op as fuck and how many trash

[white dagger]

Skeletron took 116 attempts

(I’m doing infernum master)

[gloomy wedge]

final phase old duke is so frustrating man

[night fractal]

You want some tips?

[fair geode]

i mean itd be funny

[night fractal]

I'm pretty sure as long as your attack doesn't deal more than 75 dmg to provi and deals summon dmg it is fine

so viral Sprout is meta

Unless someone fixed that

[gloomy wedge]

DOES OLD DUKE FUCKING IGNORE BLAZING CORE IN FINAL PHASE

[round panther]

finally beat infernum rogue

very happy

[limber sage]

I should resume my gfb rogue

I think I got stuck on provi

[gloomy wedge]

OH NO OH NO OH NO O HNO OH NO

[fading dove]

is mutant mod infinite potions legal for nohits

go my ceaseless hunger

[gloomy wedge]

literally how do i dodge old duke's dashes in final phase

they are too fast for me to ram through

i only get one use of blazing core before its down for 30 seconds again

[smoky dock]

yes

the only infinite effect that's bannable is Happy!

Because NO FUN ALLOWED. NO JOY HERE.

[gloomy wedge]

would ascendant insignia or absorber be better for old duke here

FUCKING finally

duke flanderized is dead

[toxic osprey]

i switched off double tap dash and that made it a lot easier

[gloomy wedge]

yeah i have that off

using shift dash

either way i can get to dashslop (positive) now

[fading dove]

BLAZING CORE MENTIONED WOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[heavy moat]

Concerning tech

[limber sage]

what the hell

it looks like the tils just vaporized but...then why is the biome still desert

[humble marlin]

horrifying

[limber sage]

tiles*

[gloomy wedge]

goated accessory

love this thing

i know how broken parries are after playing fargos

[smoky dock]

hell yeah

[gloomy wedge]

not dlc for the record

just base fargos

[gloomy wedge]

man i hate when this happens

[noble summit]

i rlly gotta finish my world

i just stopped playing after dog

[gloomy wedge]

so having lower defense shouldnt really matter on dog right

[noble summit]

he gonna 2 shot u regardless

[humble marlin]

dont go below 90 defense

[gloomy wedge]

i mean ive got 117 even with full menacing so

i think ill probably be fine?

[humble marlin]

yeah

[fair geode]

i hate polter desp bro

piece ogf shit

[mental shuttle]

No WoTG? The avatar will not eat Old Duke for you

[gloomy wedge]

no i have wotg

the background just goes green in final phase

so you cant see the rift

[mental shuttle]

Wdym?

You don't even have to fight the old duke

[gloomy wedge]

yeah but i want to fight every boss in infernum

so i can give it a fair shot

[mental shuttle]

The Avatar just appears immediately and eats it

Upon spawning

[gloomy wedge]

well that didnt happen

[heavy moat]

That doesn't happen in Infernum because of AI conflicts

[mental shuttle]

Ah I see

[gloomy wedge]

though i wish it did

this fight is terrible

[mental shuttle]

then turn off Infernum for a moment and do it

[gloomy wedge]

i dont know whatll break if i turn off infernum

[mental shuttle]

nothing

Nothing happens

[gloomy wedge]

oh right its just a difficulty

[mental shuttle]

yeah

just turn off the difficulty

[fair geode]

lmao

[mental shuttle]

one difficulty lower

And you'll summon the avatar right after that to deal with old duke

[heavy moat]

I did at one point make a version of the animation but with Cirrus instead of Old Duke but obviously that won't be necessary now

[fair geode]

i mean if that played if you had her on the world before and go into it now thatd be funny

[mental shuttle]

You also programmed the Avatar hand pet to grab and take her too yes?

[heavy moat]

At one point, yeah

[fair geode]

oh yeah you talked about a secret empress thing

does it happen now or

[gloomy wedge]

so that's how he left the team

[mental shuttle]

Cirrus deserves this more

Small prison to suffer instead of the Avatar giving Cirrus and easy out

[gloomy wedge]

why does it feel like every infernum boss disables rod

[heavy moat]

It's true

[grizzled onyx]

what infernum bosses disable RoD?
I dont know because i never use it

[heavy moat]

DoG, and selectively Profaned Guards

[fair geode]

jared

[grizzled onyx]

PGuards for obvious reasons

[mental shuttle]

I think DoG says something if you try to use it, I forgot what it said though

[heavy moat]

I think it's a bit artificial design admittedly but it's quite uncommon in the grand scheme of things

[gloomy wedge]

ok im ngl i only know those two because theyre the only ones i feel like using rod against

[mental shuttle]

"You think you can ???" or something

[low ravine]

finished infernum!!!

[heavy moat]

Outsmart a master of dimensions

He's quite edgy that way

[grizzled onyx]

you can still use Portal Gun cheese against Profaned Guardians

[mental shuttle]

He didn't say it when I used it btw

Last time

[fair geode]

i hope he gets smashed against a rock in the rework so his edge isnt so sharp

[heavy moat]

He has like three different things he can say

[grizzled onyx]

while i havent used it before, it does seem extremely useful

[mental shuttle]

They are..?

[heavy moat]

He'd be the type to revel in the misery he inflicts on new Infernum players

[grizzled onyx]

Yes
I really like the Devourer's personality of being a being with an ego the size of a planet, and no one is strong enough to humble him

[mental shuttle]

Interesting, the last time I played in Infernum a few months ago, he didn't any messages when trying to teleport

I couldn't tp, but he also dun say anything

Silence

from the devourer

[gloomy wedge]

imagine being this edgy when youre based on one of these things

[mental shuttle]

Ok buddy

[gloomy wedge]

its like swiper saying fuck

[heavy moat]

When your kill to death ratio for a new player is like 300 I think the haughty demeanor makes sense

[gloomy wedge]

man rift solar eclipse looks cool as hell

[fair geode]

actually awful

bad infernum player

[grizzled onyx]

yeah
exactly i love his personality

could tone down his edginess by a good bit

and it would be perfection

[gloomy wedge]

tbf if you're named the devourer of gods

i want at least a little edge in there

maybe not as much as he has now

but still

[mental shuttle]

Extremely edgy in 1.3

Calamity Mod v1.5.1.6

That's what I'm currently playing

[gloomy wedge]

i forgot old dog lines hold on

[mental shuttle]

He summons all three sentinels during the fight

[grizzled onyx]

yeah

that is

[heavy moat]

Contained the word "kid" in like 2/3rds of them

[grizzled onyx]

certainly a design choice

[heavy moat]

e.g. "Nothing personal, kid"

[grizzled onyx]

why is he imitating Gerson Boom

[elder nebula]

and it was peak

[mental shuttle]

It's not over yet, kid!

[gloomy wedge]

All of The Devourer of Gods' quotes are internally named "EdgyBossText".

this checks out

[mental shuttle]

Changed to

It's not over yet!

Also he says this
Don't get cocky!

[elder nebula]

👎

[limber sage]

gotta play some ozzy osbourne if you're fighting old DoG

[heavy moat]

DoG but he gives the Lowtiergod rant

[grizzled onyx]

nono
this is peak

[elder nebula]

thankfully true peak is returning in sso

[gloomy wedge]

dog but dubbed over by a 20s circus performer

[elder nebula]

with the reb dialogue

[mental shuttle]

Currently here, even tried trapping Ravager in here since I'm that weird

In this

Pitiful box

[limber sage]

I just had a silly thought

when y'all mentioned "lowtiergod rant"

[elder nebula]

?

[limber sage]

WotG still has that 'kills 99.99% of lesser beings" spray right?

[mental shuttle]

Yes

[limber sage]

DoG should have a silly line if you equip it

[gloomy wedge]

real ones will remember when dog was a post-plant boss

[heavy moat]

When DoG spawned naturally at the nebula pillar...

[mental shuttle]

Wdym equip

[limber sage]

held it in hand

[mental shuttle]

Yeah

[limber sage]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-spray-squirt-annoyed-irritated-gif-4445288

[gloomy wedge]

my god sprites have improved so much since 2016

i forgot if it was 2016 or 2017 actually

[mental shuttle]

My camp is being swarmed by otherwordly creatures!!! (or something)
-Solyn

[mental shuttle]

I think Fabsol just took the Destroyer's sprite and just edited it

To purple

Purple eyes

[gloomy wedge]

that makes sense

old modding is very very funny

do you guys remember tremor

[mental shuttle]

That was the first sprite, just a recolored Destroyer. then it's been slowly being resprited into what it is now

[gloomy wedge]

and now hes getting REALLY FUCKING BIG

[heavy moat]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[gloomy wedge]

yeah i think we all wish we could forget

but we cant

[mental shuttle]

Good old abyss layer one Piano synth notes...

[mental shuttle]

For some reason it looks like the Nebula pillar just squeezed inside the destroyer

That's what the sprite looks like to me

[gloomy wedge]

well it used to drop the nebula arcanum

so

[fading dove]

i love nohitting

[fair geode]

wow the polter summon is funny

is it better than virid for dog?

[fading dove]

no

they don't hit the head

[fair geode]

ah

[fading dove]

virid vangard locks right on the head and always hits

defying all laws of physics

[fair geode]

anything to change for him?

[night fractal]

i changed this

no more EdgyBossText7 when he spawns

2.1 saving us

[fair geode]

oh yeah doze will the new sunken sea look more like a castle thing?

cause from the lore thats what it seems like

[night fractal]

idk

It'll look more cooler

that's all I know I can say

[fair geode]

how much colder

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-watermelon-gif-21209695

[full terrace]

:(

[limber sage]

I have a bit of a question about how minion damage works out with a certain...circumstance

[fair geode]

?

[limber sage]

35% less damage multiplicatively, but 2x summon slots

[fair geode]

wow i am

rusty and bad

god damn it

[nimble wing]

WHAT

[fair geode]

better than the rest i guess

[soft ferry]

lesson learned: don't fight signus in the profaned temple

[fair geode]

the humble ceaseless hunger potion:

[soft ferry]

do you think i want to deal with whatever bullcrap ceaseless void is gonna do with me

signus is easy as hell anyways

[fair geode]

ok so uhhh

what do i do if i for example have a drunk world that counts as a april fools world

becuase

i cant craft mirror

it is quite literally impossible for me to craft mirror

lol

[fading dove]

alright

lava chicken broth definitely makes it a bit harder to do

but its pretty much just exclusive to popping bloodfin coil 1

[fading dove]

big suck potions

[fair geode]

i already said that

[fading dove]

you didnt

[soft ferry]

no i hate ceaseless void

[fair geode]

yes i did

[fading dove]

big suck potion

[soft ferry]

okay

[fading dove]

ceaseless hunger potion

[fair geode]

oh fargos

[fading dove]

do note that big suck doesn't work on pickups

[fair geode]

help woke lesbian jesus

[fading dove]

uhhhh

[soft ferry]

i dont use fargos

[fading dove]

why would it be impossible

[fading dove]

which one there's over 20

[fair geode]

magic mirror teleports out of my inventory

when i put it in there

[fading dove]

???????

what the fuck

[fair geode]

its an april fools thing

i think

[soft ferry]

whatever one has big suck potion apparently

[fair geode]

cause for some reason i got jharim to spawn

[fading dove]

mutant mod

[fair geode]

when i made the world

[fading dove]

maybe he spawns on drunk world????????

[soft ferry]

ok i dont use that

[fading dove]

then live without your loot

[fair geode]

not always

i made another drunk world for rogue and he didnt spawn so maybe its chance

and the magic mirrors dont teleport out of my inventory either

[fading dove]

i have no idea then

[fair geode]

so

[soft ferry]

nah i'd maul that easy boss again

[fair geode]

ill just cheat in mirror of kalandra then

:(

i have an idea

ill test that and if that doesnt work ill cheat it in

[fading dove]

fuckkkkkk i wish there was a lava chicken potion

[limber sage]

a what now

[fair geode]

what the fuck is lava chicken broth

[dim prawn]

fire writing right here

[limber sage]

wait, are you talking about that giant bucket you slurp from and die?

[fair geode]

YES

IT WORKED GET FUCKED

[fading dove]

drop from gfb exos that gives you most fire debuffs for 25 minutes and 25 seconds when consumed

but it has a use time of 901 frames

(15.083 seconds)

[fair geode]

ah

[limber sage]

so it was what I was thinking

[fading dove]

this includes vulnerability hex

[limber sage]

is there a point to it, or is it essentially a suicide item

[fading dove]

it gives exquisitely stuffed for the same time

[limber sage]

but

just craft applie pies?

apple*

[fading dove]

🤫

[limber sage]

wait wait, wouldn't you just have to like

drink that and then heal at nurse?

well, gfb won't allow that but

[fading dove]

good luck getting to the nurse

i dont think the flight time bonuses of the insignias stack

[sharp lantern]

how do i make aerealite armor do i need a specific anvil

i figured it out nvm

[fading dove]

keep dying to dot

i think i actually have to stall p1 a few seconds so that i can have bloodfin up for laser web

the one thing i dont like about dog's standard lasers is that there's no indication of which way they're coming from

[viscid crow]

fun fact: portal gun is indeed useful for Infernium DoG
-# @crimson hamlet

[crimson hamlet]

Why is the music muted

Also let’s goooooooo

[fading dove]

shows it being unused in the hotbar

[viscid crow]

i blame nvidia replay being shit and not staying on when I turned it on

basically fall > portal up > repeat

[fading dove]

teleportation

glumbsdown

we use portal gun for the fall speed

[junior mortar]

the underground colluseum dosent send me into the portal im on multiplayer infernum.

[toxic osprey]

how do you dodge infernum daytime eol's attack where she turns into the sun

[limber sage]

I don't think you even need to fight daytime empress at all?

[toxic osprey]

i know i'm doing it for the challenge

[limber sage]

ah, some ppl do it thinking it's still the only way to get prisma

[surreal cedar]

Infernum DoG is awesome

actually tries to like eat you and not just flying by you

like if he was trying to race you or something

[wanton mirage]

in calamity hunt of the old god goozma turns into a black hole and insta kills me how do i beat that?

[spring ravine]

what should I change for goliath - cultist (using realm ravager w/ chlorophyte bulletys)

[limber sage]

the heck is that third acc

[polar sedge]

thanks entropy XD

casual just

summon that

as a pet

[spring ravine]

what weapon and ammo should I use for cultist, also what should I change (ranged inf)

[upbeat sparrow]

Infernum or wrath of the machines

for exo mechs purely

[little steppe]

infernum cause I'm pretty sure infernum and WotM together may cause problems

and I imagine you had infernum the whole run

unless you disable infernum entirely just for that

in that case

flip a coin

[fading dove]

best attempt under lava chicken

apparently inf dog being alive dispels god slayer inferno

[vocal tulip]

Is Perditus (Bereft Vassal's whip) just an upgrade to kaleidoscope?

[raven vapor]

also i looked at the wiki and saw that the ares in hecate has some wierd debuff immunity

the body of ares is resistant to miracle blight but the arms arent

[fading dove]

sidegrade

its better on fast hitting low damage minions

while kscope just gives a flat 1.232x on average

[humble marlin]

nya

[crimson hamlet]

Exoblade is fun

The heal is nice utility

[junior mortar]

do i use all elemental axes or elemental axes with flowers of mortality

for prov

[formal summit]

Where can i ask something about coding and maths for Increase damage

[fading dove]

i could probably explain

what do you wanna know

[slow sail]

i was expecting ANTHING for perforator battle in fargo soul dlc, but him turning into a giant spider was definitly something (best so far)

[smoky dock]

Depends on the context but you can do it here if you want
#general-talk is the best place though

[formal summit]

It's about other Game, im on #general-talk for tagging you with the question

[fading dove]

ah

never mind then

[crimson hamlet]

@smoky dock indying called true melee stupid

[grim swallow]

You use both perditus and kaleido

[tidal tree]

is stellar torus the best summon for dog

[tardy cedar]

no

Also is this infernum

[tidal tree]

yeah it is

i thought stellar's piercing would do good because of the coil of doom and despair tech

but the damage is lower than i thought

[raven vapor]

i found out you can avoid being suffocated in space if you were underwater

(fargos)

also you will need a gills potion for this to work

[little steppe]

fish bowl? vanity? nah, utility

[raven vapor]

it actually works

insane

[tardy cedar]

Use virid vanguard

[tardy cedar]

Yeah the deviantt says it too

[ripe fulcrum]

"friendly"

i dont trust it

[wispy scaffold]

How do I keep my motivation when I consistently die to the regular enemies before I can achieve anything?

[grim swallow]

omfg

I got DoG to 20% with max hp a dodge and a heal just for my game to crash

[tidal tree]

think about how you will destroy them with pre wof gear later

pre boss is the worst part of the game ever so you just have to drag yourself through it

[raven vapor]

guys

should i beat anahita and leviathan as the first HM boss

all i need is an arena and some slightly better accessories

[keen peak]

I would kill infernum duke fishron
More viable option imho

[grim swallow]

yay DoG down

I love having 52 defense

and 4 clones of DoG on my screen

[raven vapor]

I am playing eternity death

eternity fishron is not fun i think

[cedar laurel]

95 max hp jumpscare

[fiery mango]

Eternity fishron kinda takes the absolute piss

Moreso than eternity as a whole

[dense eagle]

You know that half of the bosses isnt reworked yet?

[north matrix]

what armor should i use? im mage, post golem, currently using brimflame

[raven vapor]

i did it

holy shit

[north matrix]

dayum

[raven vapor]

such a long boss fight

[north matrix]

yea you are def better than me

this is mine with pre plantera stuff

yall dont eat truffle's shrooms

[north matrix]

what weapons and armor were you using

[raven vapor]

a bunch of fargo's enchantments , grand gelatin , supreme deathbringer fairy , the fargo boot upgrade to terraspark , adamantite armour (i went fishing) and bundle

[north matrix]

you can get adamantite pre hm?

i thought it only dropped post wof from crates

[raven vapor]

i am playing in HM

[north matrix]

oh

[raven vapor]

i beat WoF

[north matrix]

i thought u were in phm

still respect nontheless

[solar crater]

Why can’t I get the halibut cannon from overhaul?

I’ve been fishing in the sulphuric sea for ages

[north matrix]

BRUH DUKE FISHRON KILLED ME ON 0,5% HP

[humble marlin]

check pinned messages

[formal summit]

Me trying to get the razorblade typhoon in vanilla cal m+d be like

[cedar ridge]

if you like razorblade typhoon

waitr till you see nuclear fury

[north matrix]

oh wow i got both magic weapons lesgo

[formal summit]

The reason was that

Get the razorblade typhoon to craft the nuclear fury

[north matrix]

yall know theres a worse version of razorblade typhoon just after entering hardmode

ah bubble gun my beloved, reunited once again

[formal summit]

homing = GOOD WEAPON

[waxen tide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/512925739486674954/1390137644528173168/lobotomy_Wykonano_za_pomoca_Clipchamp.mp4?ex=68672a11&is=6865d891&hm=9c539393ff2821082d46d603e15d201da6c02cd96716f2025f514c1e56d8ef17&

[north matrix]

overdose much?

[waxen tide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/512925739486674954/1390140275514408960/image.png?ex=68672c85&is=6865db05&hm=dc6c28ce585d4953102a4a715d4ccd0c068b6595b4a3304cf6ef377f63901f4d&

like

what the fuck

funny enough this is only tier 1 shroom

fuckass mcnuggets..

[formal summit]

What this means:
Projectiles now home towards the closest enemy instead of the earliest enemy in the NPC array.

[north matrix]

non homing weapons are also not bad

[humble marlin]

Obamashroom

[north matrix]

wingman, infernal rift, bubble gun, photosyntesis

alr time to get whooped by eol

17% left

1st attempt

[north matrix]

well that took less attempts than i thought

permafrosts concoction is the goat of this playthrough fr

[waxen tide]

5 minutes?

thats pretty fucking long

ngl

[north matrix]

this took longer

[waxen tide]

😭

this is mage?

[north matrix]

yes

[waxen tide]

[north matrix]

i aint very good at the game my man

i use whats fun not optimal

[waxen tide]

I mean surviving for long time is pretty good

[north matrix]

i used this

[waxen tide]

what weapon

[north matrix]

i used razorblade typhoon and wingman

[waxen tide]

hmmm
understandable ig

[north matrix]

is my stuff good enough for ml?

[waxen tide]

I would get astral armor
and fishron/betsy/steampunk wings

and replace mana polizer with like absorber

[viscid vale]

the fight with cryogen on my first playthrough took me 17 minutes

[fading dove]

i used night's ray and it took less time than this 😭

[grim swallow]

were you wand of frosting him

and also, may I ask why is gobflobber or whatever its called bad

is because of its speed or what

because to me it seems like a direct upgrade to perditus

[smoky dock]

I have never heard anyone say Globflogger is bad

It's slow, yeah, it requires a bit of getting used to its sluggishness

[grim swallow]

the thing is

[smoky dock]

But that's the only downside I'm aware of

[grim swallow]

I just tested it and when you hit with it it goes ZOOMING

[grim swallow]

our friend lesbian jesus told me several time that its bad

[north matrix]

what weapon should i use for plaguebringer?

i just used nightglow

[fading dove]

tag damage doesn't compete with kscope or morning star

gobflogger has higher tag when your minions are hitting for ~220 damage

i should try and see how much damage the whip itself does

gobflogger is better if your minions never hit for more than 215 damage

purely going off tag damage

which for that point

:(

[grim swallow]

but I can use up to 3 whips

which means that kaleido MS and gobflogger is a better combination than kaleido MS and perditus

and I finally get a new armos set

[rose spindle]

does the whips addon not have unbalanced balancing?

[grim swallow]

(before anyone says fearmonger has less dps than stardust)

[fading dove]

2.5x damage on a post cultist whip

[rose spindle]

so is it a no go 😭

[fading dove]

kscope is 1.232x and is obscenely overpowered

so for balanced settings, yeah its a big no

[rose spindle]

are there actual whip addons for calamity that arent broken

[fading dove]

catalyst

the whips there have interesting effects and are actually balanced

[rose spindle]

thats also a content mod no?

like changes the map

and adds bosses

[grim swallow]

1 boss

hes fun tho but his gear is pretty broken

[fading dove]

it adds one change

to worldgen

extends the astral infection downwards

thats it

[rose spindle]

never liked astral infection

hope thats better

[grim swallow]

thats good for yharon yeah I forgot to ask

[rose spindle]

never bothered to fight deus and aureus for my infernum ranger run

[grim swallow]

no astral armor

[fading dove]

the superboss that catalyst adds is really fun

[grim swallow]

tho for first kill he is absurdly tough

[fading dove]

but yeah it adds whips and flamethrowers throughout progression

[grim swallow]

oh and btw he becomes locked post ml

and should I bother getting the draedon arsena summoner post DoG weapon

[fading dove]

pole warper's pretty good

[grim swallow]

Is it worth the time to decrypt all of the draedon shits

[rose spindle]

exo weapons are my favorite

but for summoner

its kinda dookie bro

[grim swallow]

got it

okay and I may be stupid but I really have to use mechworm+kalandra or is there a better option

[rose spindle]

mechworm and kalandra carries till post yharon

then you can use draconic swarm then kalandra

and*

[grim swallow]

that fuckass bird just oneshotted me with a bullet

I feel like everclear should go

[rose spindle]

yharon was easy for me

idk why

infernum and allat

yknow what

[grim swallow]

yeah but im in like more hp and shit

[rose spindle]

i havent beaten infernum calamitas on infernum

ill try rn

but i have like 20 mins

[grim swallow]

good luck

[rose spindle]

i mean on summoner

i beat it on ranged

ranger

so im familiar with her pattern

[north matrix]

if i got astrageldon to 2nd phase will he always start the fight on 2nd phase?

[wheat radish]

yes unless you summon with i think right click

it should say it in the description

[grim swallow]

fuck he had 5%

[grim swallow]

yeah

[rose spindle]

i have too many characters

i cant tell which is my summoner

found it

[north matrix]

i didnt realise nano purge was this good

[grave marsh]

the

[north matrix]

NO WAY

[fading dove]

foldering:

[north matrix]

MY SUMMONS KILLED HIM WHEN I DIED

[rose spindle]

are these accessories up to par with calamitas

[fading dove]

shield slam </3

what armour

[rose spindle]

auric tesla

what else

[fading dove]

fearmonger is noticably bulkier

[rose spindle]

like are you suggesting i become more defensive

[fading dove]

based on your accessories

because nebulous core is a kind of maybe okay at best accessory

[rose spindle]

what should i be using for max damage

[fading dove]

for max damage its best to not give a shit about classes

[night rapids]

Why does Silva armour have a 5 minute cooldown that also is paused when a boss is alive

[rose spindle]

what?

i squeezed in another revive in my yharon fight

[fading dove]

this is what i used for post exos scal

and pre exos

[fading dove]

i shouldnt have used aegis here