calamity-addon-talk

[grim swallow]

Yeah that is true but I do not complain

Because in vanilla I absolutely love whips

[crimson hamlet]

I wish they had a mechanic where hitting with the tip did something special

Like that one whip in dead cells that crits when you hit with just the tip (shut up)

But not a crit

[grim swallow]

It would be cool if there was a bonus for that yeah

[snow sun]

Can’t wait to get access to abominable energy

[crimson hamlet]

It would require a different animation and therefore new hitboxes

[smoky dock]

valhalla knight

[crimson hamlet]

I’ve genuinely never used Valhalla knight wtf even is it

[fair geode]

tanky summoner set

very tanky

[smoky dock]

more defense than vortex
more regen than solar
more damage than spooky

broken as shit

[crimson hamlet]

How get it

[smoky dock]

post-golem

[crimson hamlet]

From who

Or what

[grim swallow]

Is it the OOA one?

[smoky dock]

tavernkeep

[crimson hamlet]

How craft

[crimson hamlet]

Oh that explains it

[smoky dock]

yeppers

[crimson hamlet]

I don’t do ooa

[smoky dock]

all of the OOA armors are broken

[grim swallow]

If so does that remove providence from existence

[crimson hamlet]

Such a pain in the ass to grind out

[smoky dock]

yes

[grim swallow]

It gives like a fucktin sentries yeah?

[smoky dock]

yeppers

three

[soft ferry]

only after I beat bereft vassal a second time did he show up on my boss checklist, and he reverted the 'lose progression' bug he caused earlier, but decided to not give himself the silly check mark because he hates me in particular

[crimson hamlet]

I should learn an afk setup for ooa

[fair geode]

i am stuck in hell and this is my punishment

[smoky dock]

it’s trivial in calamity

[grim swallow]

Because 4 crystals had a little less dps than 14 elemental axes

[smoky dock]

if I was on PC i’d show you

[fair geode]

prisma can you please make huntress sell pixie dust pretty please

[smoky dock]

well you get 5 crystals so

[crimson hamlet]

Yeah subworlds are buggy with boss checklist

[grim swallow]

Wrong message but yeah

They are quite buggy

[crimson hamlet]

However that’s the only bug I’ve had with boss checklist and therefore I have no clue what people mean by calling boss checklist a bugfest

[fair geode]

FUCK

WHERE WHY

[grim swallow]

I hoped for 6

[fair geode]

DAMN IT

[limber sage]

mid EoL fight

[smoky dock]

you may have 6 since you asked so politely

[fair geode]

war table

:)

[crimson hamlet]

Infernum empress, the most overrated infernum fight imo

At least Devourer looks kickass

[smoky dock]

i liked my empress becsuse i overengineered the fight

[grim swallow]

I used war table monk belt and stardust gives one more

[crimson hamlet]

I don’t get the eol hype

Unless I’m summoner I don’t even fight her lmfao

[limber sage]

you'll get the hype if you use lucille's wrasth of the empress mod

wrath*

[smoky dock]

you probably lose numbers

[crimson hamlet]

I meant infernum empress

[grim swallow]

Eol infernum fight is flashy

PBG better

[crimson hamlet]

BASED AS FUCK

[limber sage]

wrath of the empress overwrites infernum ai, cuz it's designed to do so

[grim swallow]

What

[limber sage]

but outside of the moon phase, infernum EoL isn't very fun

[crimson hamlet]

Can I use the spamton neo resource pack with it

[smoky dock]

Calamity makes set bonuses more important
By armor mixing, you are losing the set bonus which can hurt your summon damage

[limber sage]

I'm unsure if you can change EoL's sprite in WotE with texture packs

[grim swallow]

Idk maybe its not called monk belt

[crimson hamlet]

I know it works in regular infernum

[grim swallow]

The OOA accessory

[limber sage]

that's because infernum doesn't change her sprite

[compact hedge]

whats the best buff candle?

[grim swallow]

Not the empress of [[hyperlink blocked]]

[hollow dove]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Hyperlink_blocked?action=edit&redlink=1

[fair geode]

huh

[smoky dock]

They’re all so well balanced that they’re all good choices (as long as one isn’t obviously useless)

[crimson hamlet]

Anyways what’s the most forgettable infernum boss and why is it deerclops

[grim swallow]

So spin da wheel my friend

[smoky dock]

dreadnautilus

[crimson hamlet]

At least dread is useful as a summoner

[compact hedge]

ive been using the regen one

[limber sage]

the music from the mod is also banger as fuck

[grim swallow]

Uhh no

[smoky dock]

That’s a good choice

[crimson hamlet]

Deerclops just doesn’t serve any purpose to fight

[grim swallow]

Ice ticks are better

[crimson hamlet]

Sanguine staff is okay

[compact hedge]

hes fun

[smoky dock]

clearly you’ve never used houndius shootius

[limber sage]

meanwhile chester pet:

and houndius ya

[crimson hamlet]

Fuck the fucking ice claspers

Fucking little shits

[grim swallow]

I fought deerclops just cuz I fighr all bosses

[compact hedge]

I wish i could use chester and danny devito at the same time

[grim swallow]

Outside of vanilla pre EoC dee clops shenanigans he is useless

[compact hedge]

thats all i want

[limber sage]

there's a mod that lets you equip multiple pets

[crimson hamlet]

Monarch butterfly…

[heavy moat]

Slightly surprised how little attention it's gotten overall
Even the You boss seems to have gotten more

[limber sage]

she has 4 different looks

day, night, blood moon, solar eclipse

[crimson hamlet]

I shall be playing it soon

™

[compact hedge]

what ranged weapon should i use for plantera

[grim swallow]

Wait is that the mod where daytime EoL is a post ml fight?

I remember there was such

[limber sage]

yes

well, not just daytime, EoL in general is post ml

[grim swallow]

Imagine if it has a wotg cross thingy

[limber sage]

otherwise she instakills you

[civic pasture]

So im playing Wrath of the Gods, and I got to the Permafrost's Keep quest. Ik there's supposed to be a structure here but its only showing this?

Turned on the "lights" to show whats happening

[grim swallow]

Like because of the rift her look is changed

[heavy moat]

The Secret Rift Eclipse EoL variant

[grim swallow]

And also

Blood moon rift looks sick

[heavy moat]

Maybe I should do that once WotG's vanilla version is out

[limber sage]

WotE needs eclipse EoL to be as difficult as true radiance EoL...and give a gear upgrade

[compact hedge]

any changes for plantera?

[crimson hamlet]

Wotg is gonna have a vanilla version?

[compact hedge]

im using megashark w chlorophyte bullets btw

[crimson hamlet]

That isn’t calamity dependent I presume

[heavy moat]

Yes

[crimson hamlet]

That sounds cool

Will calamity version still exist

[grim swallow]

Use animosity or hellborn

[crimson hamlet]

And be updated

[heavy moat]

Yeah, it will still exist

It'll be two separate mods

[crimson hamlet]

Alright

[compact hedge]

which one is better

[grim swallow]

Sounds cool because there is a person who is currently fighting ND with vanilla gear

[crimson hamlet]

Lucille is such a cool mod dev, making sure people don’t need to play calamity to experience her kickass mod

[limber sage]

Hey Lucille, question...is the title screen name for WotE theme correct?

"glimmerdew - blessed moonlight"

I've been trying to find it to be able to listen freely to but it doesn't seem to exist

[heavy moat]

That's just a funny name for the title screen
I'd have to go digging around to find the source name of the music track again. It's been a bit

[limber sage]

outside of the game

aahhhh

[heavy moat]

Here's the music file from the source doe if it helps

[limber sage]

yeeee

thanks ♥

[soft ferry]

anyone know why i got 2 infernal astrum deus relics? (if this information is relevant at all, i died at the same time as deus, and i had to fight it at the same time as vortex pillar enemies)

[limber sage]

doesn't EoW give double loot too?

[soft ferry]

idk i picked crimson

[limber sage]

pretty sure it's just a weird thing with how infernum handles those two bosses

[heavy moat]

EoW has some WEIRD code in Infernum to work iirc

[smoky dock]

Yep

[soft ferry]

love when it says 'no record' when i murder a worm boss :) (wonder if this bug applies to DoG?)

[smoky dock]

Boss Checklist try to function for ten minutes challenge (impossible)

[limber sage]

boss checklist moment

[heavy moat]

You love to see it

[fair geode]

npclife=0 tied to the lacewing?

idk im not a coder but

that makes sesne

kidna

[heavy moat]

This is Infernum EoW code

Not the empress

[fair geode]

oh

the splitting?

[heavy moat]

Yeah

[fair geode]

i fucking hate inf eow

stupid long ass fight

the armor should get lower the more he splits

[soft ferry]

is there anything in particular i should do before going off to get absolutely humbled beyond belief by infernum moon lord?

[fair geode]

the hp too but htat already happens

[limber sage]

angel treads aren't necessary

if you still want to use boots, you could still use fairy boots

[fair geode]

boots get worse the later you are in the game

[limber sage]

or put on frozen shield

or absorber

[soft ferry]

no

[limber sage]

iirc, the absorber bug was fixed

[little steppe]

or ambrosial

[limber sage]

ambrosial is great too ya

[waxen tide]

I would use statis curse somewhere

[soft ferry]

i disproportionally hate absorber for no reason in particular

[chrome moth]

ambrosial isnt that good at infernum

[soft ferry]

its right there tho

[waxen tide]

hmm true

[limber sage]

after watching a low% run, I really wanna try beating calamity in only 9 bosses too

[heavy moat]

Comparatively speaking WoTE code is a bit more reasonable
Nu weird jank like that

[waxen tide]

wrath of the eater of worlds

[heavy moat]

Terror

[limber sage]

wrath of the old duke*

[little steppe]

wrath of the terrarian

[limber sage]

(replaces scal with a shadow terrarian fight like shadow link in OoT water temple)

[heavy moat]

It's like some kind of You Boss

[limber sage]

I wonder how much of a nightmare that would be

to make and fight

[night fractal]

Get Stardust Cell Staff

use that plus wither blossom

[limber sage]

why cell staff?

was it buffed in cal?

[night fractal]

idk but it's very good

specifically if you have a support weapon or one of another minion

[limber sage]

well, then again, terraprisma was nerfed in cal, so the optimal setup isn't 3 stardust drags + rest terraprisma

[compact hedge]

what bullets should i use with the animosity

[limber sage]

uh, isn't there like, brimstone bullets or w/e?

or am i thinking arrows

[waxen tide]

theres no brimstone bullets

[limber sage]

well there's always chlorophyte bullets or uh

[soft ferry]

that was pathetic for an infernum boss, no less one with this much buildup. i was expecting something harder. VANILLA moon lord took me around 20 attempts on expert.

[limber sage]

hallowed? I think?

[waxen tide]

crystal bullets probs or chloro

[compact hedge]

alright

[limber sage]

I'm a brainless pleb that sits on endless musket pouch

so ammos don't register in my brain

[soft ferry]

i sound really egotistical here uhmmgfkjdkjgkd

[limber sage]

if you want a hard Ml fight

[soft ferry]

ill blame it on the fact im playing calamity summoner

[limber sage]

fight masodeath ml, or gfb legdeath moonlord

ah, that would do it too

[fair geode]

piece of shit

@smoky dock look mr beast

[smoky dock]

KILL

wga

[fair geode]

slow lizard

[slow sail]

i was playing fargo souls with calamity and i discovered you canot be in master mode without masochist, i just wanted eternity😭

[smoky dock]

oh it was a spammer

[fair geode]

yeah

[smoky dock]

masochist mode IS master mode

[humble marlin]

the

[smoky dock]

Masochist mode is just eternity with master mode changes

[slow sail]

i didnt know it, its my first time playing the mod

[smoky dock]

Well now you do
Never do maso as your first Souls experience

[limber sage]

I wonder what would happen to someone that did masolegdeath gfb for their first ever souls+calamity run

[fair geode]

i love you ice clasper

[swift moss]

Would you guys recommend Fargos soul DLC or Infernum?

[soft ferry]

this a good setup for infernum profaned guardians? (not gonna use the elemental axe because i want to use summons i don't usually use)

[trim heath]

thats probably masochism

[grim void]

is the bard/healer addon for calamity well balanced or is it busted like in thorium

[soft ferry]

forgot to mention i'm using luminite bullets

[swift moss]

Or

[trim heath]

i didnt even finish normal fargos so ye

[swift moss]

Is it that bad? Infernum is easier?

[trim heath]

from what ive heard infernum is easier till some stage of hardmode

[dusty cobalt]

Is that stardust armour?

Why's it look so cool now

[soft ferry]

i'm using the tooth and nail texture pack

but yes

[grim void]

infernum is baby easy and then you hit ML and the difficulty spikes like crazy

[dusty cobalt]

Ic

[soft ferry]

ML was easier than most prehardmode bosses but ok (from my own personal experience) (i play summoner)

[dusty cobalt]

Fact

[limber sage]

boss difficulty also depends on the person

[polar sedge]

funny interaction between wood enchant and spirit's glyphs

[humble marlin]

stealth rogue

[fair geode]

whats the meta summon for brimmy post 1 mech?

[humble marlin]

sanguines or deepsea

[fair geode]

guess im doing a blood moon

[fading dove]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

THATS WHY IVE BEEN DEALING SLIGHTLY LESS

NO SPITE

[humble marlin]

lmao

[gloomy wedge]

hardest fight so far

also one of the best

[pale crow]

Question (and major spoilers) for the Wrath of the Gods knowledgeable folks

||So, the wiki says Solyn has dialogue in the Eternal Garden. Does that only happen if you've collected all of her books? Cuz I can't find her there and I'm hard, HARD coping that she's somehow still alive lol||

[lucid cypress]

oh fucking hello mr jungle

this is a large world

how does this happen

[wheat geode]

stuck on mech bosses as mage and idk how to get past

destroyer has too many probes and moves stupid fast

same with twins

and skeletron prime somehow hits me no matter what i do

[gloomy wedge]

so

providence is hard

who wouldve thought

[wheat geode]

anyone know what i can do? im running titanium armour with the most basic early hardmode stuff

[nimble wing]

(vanilla moon lord is hard because he sucks)

[soft ferry]

huh

[nimble wing]

byeah

[wheat geode]

and using SHPC since poseidon cant rlly do damage and neither can frigidflash bolt as it is slow

[pale crow]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-gif-23674110

[gloomy wedge]

ngl infernum moon lord is prob the 2nd hardest fight in the mod for me

only behind guardians

[soft ferry]

i guess i'm just decent at moon lord in particular idk

[gloomy wedge]

though i will say his hp did feel a bit

low?

like he kinda got melted by glassmaker

[fair geode]

damn it

[soft ferry]

either that or it's because i'm playing summoner which is the most goated class objectively 100% of course

[gloomy wedge]

im playing ranger which is

honestly very broken at that stage

glassmaker is an absurd flamethrower to have

plus you get blight spewer for super free homing

[fading dove]

myrindael is usable up to postgame

it outclasses exoblade for movement

[gloomy wedge]

should i try getting that for provi

actually why tf am i not using tracers

[fading dove]

because tracers suck unless its basecal then theyre actually kinda decent on prov but thats about it

actually isnt hexxed branch just better tracers

[gloomy wedge]

i mean if i have inf flight time

which i do

thats their main weakness right

they have way less flight time than just normal wings

[fading dove]

also the worse flight

[gloomy wedge]

and this is a pretty horizontal fight on inf provi

so why are tracers not that good

[fading dove]

starboard

starboard has colossal accel and deaccel

along with a boost

and a hover

[gloomy wedge]

oh shit right i forgot about starboard

ok that makes sense

[fading dove]

and just goes really fucking fast

[humble marlin]

so good it had to be nerfed

and its still insane

[fading dove]

the one thing about starboard is that it halves dash duration in the air

its just a quirk of how cal dashes work

well dash duration if the dash is from cal

[night fractal]

Hi

[fading dove]

vanilla dashes are unaffected

its really fucked up

[night fractal]

Technically

Not always

half of the time when dashing to the left they get shortened if you use keybind

specifically if it's the second dash to the left in a row

I genuinely have no idea how that one happened

[fading dove]

what the fuck

[soft ferry]

that's a very oddly specific thing to happen

[fading dove]

this sounds like the same type of spaghetti that makes absorber not have regeneraga if vanilla cooldowns are disabled in the cooldown rack

or that makes insert thing here do insert completely unrelated thing here

[night fractal]

I also wonder how on earth this happened

like genuinely what

[fading dove]

i legitimately thought my tmod was just personalised because they have nothing to do with each other

[night fractal]

there was a bug in dev that caused Exorcism to give NPCs an extra update

somehow

Nobody knows how or why but we know we fixed it

[fading dove]

tmod gives pokemon red and green a run for their money

[gloomy wedge]

well i said to myself i would use starboard once i lost this attempt

[fading dove]

damn

gg

[gloomy wedge]

best fight in the mod so far

superradiant slaughterer is a very overpowered weapon and i love it dearly

[fading dove]

i wonder how it does against basecal

[gloomy wedge]

i mean as long as youre willing to build a box around your arenas

i doubt it does bad

[fading dove]

we've seen how much it fucking annihilates inf guards

[gloomy wedge]

yeah it just fucking shredded them

actually unreal

[fading dove]

longest section is flappy bird

[gloomy wedge]

longest section for me was final phase

since i played it safe and used sdmg

[fading dove]

understandable

going from SS to B is a pretty big dip

[gloomy wedge]

yeah its not good damage

but its consistent damage

i just point the cursor at the guy and he dies

eventually

[fading dove]

i'd be surprised if superradiant gets anything below an SS

[gloomy wedge]

where is the tier list anyways

like i remember seeing it somewhere

but i cannot find it

[fading dove]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10bgBHu7apfftITBOQVJrtYCiakZVGC4reJcvfJqMBEM/edit?gid=775627746#gid=775627746

[gloomy wedge]

thanks

FUCK YEAH I KNEW I WAS RIGHT

[humble marlin]

its not cuz its shots

[fiery mango]

I must’ve been using slaughterer hella wrong against guardians

How does it get its insane damage

[gloomy wedge]

the most consistent way i found to get it to do insane damage is to always aim up during phase 3

and obv use right click whenever possible

the more it can bounce off the ceiling and actually hit the other guardian, the better it'll do

[fiery mango]

So let it rebound

[gloomy wedge]

yeah

its def the fastest way of killing the healer in phase 2 as well

[fiery mango]

Makes sense

[gloomy wedge]

so is it just me or is the rift bigger than it was last time

[pale crow]

||So, good news- I found her! Bad news- she's underneath the Eternal Tree, and mister Deity keeps trying to activate the boss fight||

[gloomy wedge]

so does infernum fuck with the ceaseless void thing going on with wotg

[pale crow]

||My portal got stuck in a wall but I was able to progress the game by breaking some blocks||

[round panther]

neat lil draedon shrine

5th attempt very proud

[silver wadi]

ND drops a neat item called moonscreen

might help with what you're trying to accomplish

[pale crow]

Oh my god you're a lifesaver

I thought the flavour text was just a fancy way of saying "Equip this for a cool overlay" 😭

Apparently there's also a final dialogue option that I can't see for some reason

[grim falcon]

and i am pleased with this

[bright hollow]

does anyone have a class setups thing for Fargo's Souls Calamity DLC? im playing as Rogue

[polar sedge]

a mystical dice just teleported me to a fathomless shrine in the middle of the abyss

almost died

[silver wadi]

oh yikes, as rogue I think you pretty much just use whatever is good all-around since nothing deals rogue dmg

what stage of progression are you at?

[bright hollow]

its why im trying it, im here for the challenge

pretty much pre-boss, just beat desert scourge

[polar sedge]

does anyone know the best way to grind for potions in maso/death?

[fading dove]

tim's concoction

[fading dove]

no guide beyond just experimenting

[bright hollow]

noted

[polar sedge]

anything else?

[iron hornet]

how?

[polar sedge]

cuz i have not found a tim yet

[fading dove]

you asked for the best

tim isnt exactly rare either

[polar sedge]

true, and you did give me the answer

but i have not found tim yet

[fair geode]

what

why did she despawn

[silver wadi]

I hate boss checklist

not even using it

but it's still in my mods list and won't let me uninstall it

and then forces a reload whenever I check my mods

fuck this mod

I have to go to steam to unsub from it because it's that broken

[fair geode]

finally

[spice pike]

Does the wrath of god multiplayer fix actually work?

[spring ravine]

is there a post golem armor set for ranged or do I gotta keep using chlorophyte

[cedar laurel]

Plague reaper and hydrothermic

[silver wadi]

I hate this mod

[spring ravine]

wait I skipped everything after golem and got the shotgun from ravager is it better than stynger

[cedar laurel]

I think so

[high flicker]

whats the most choreographed and most synced up fight in infernum

[fair geode]

gg

[gloomy wedge]

def a tierskip, but fun fight

[fair geode]

folly is a premoon boss

[high flicker]

hes a pre providence boss

[fair geode]

sure as shit doesnt feel like it

[high flicker]

nuh uh

[daring python]

is there anything I can get from exos that'll help me vs scal with true melee or is it just straight into her?

finally got TM exos down tho yippee

[high flicker]

the chair

[limber sage]

chair doesn't help if it's infernum

[high flicker]

and the turret

[daring python]

yea its inf

[humble marlin]

the turres is ass

[limber sage]

then no

[daring python]

o7

[limber sage]

exos give nothing of note

for tmelee

[humble marlin]

how can yall forget about draedons heart

[high flicker]

the summon item is op

[limber sage]

they're playing with only true melee

[high flicker]

more of preference acessory

[limber sage]

so summon item won't do shit

[humble marlin]

excuse you

elaborate

[daring python]

anything I should change?

[humble marlin]

looks good

[daring python]

(using the astrageldon chest and legs with the normal head for the armor)

[high flicker]

if u dont want adrenaline js switch it with the heart for healing

[limber sage]

chalice over bulwark

[high flicker]

ngl chalice outclasses heart

[limber sage]

imho

[high flicker]

yh chalice makes scal way easier

[humble marlin]

it would outclass heart if heart didnt give fucking 48 defense

[limber sage]

heart needs to either remove the regen active, or remove the 48 defense

[high flicker]

mos bosses have armor break

like EVERY SINGLE BOSS

has armor break

on infernum

[fair geode]

no what

[gloomy wedge]

you mean def damage?

[fair geode]

its 48 more defence for the boss to break

which is a lot

[high flicker]

they still break it

[daring python]

rampart you mean?

[limber sage]

yeah that

[humble marlin]

chalice will fuck you over eventually cuz of the bleed

[daring python]

kk

[fair geode]

you have 100 defence the boss deals 48 def damage

[high flicker]

literally any form of helaing can stop chalice

[fair geode]

would you rather have 100 or 148 defence

[limber sage]

I don't think you need a ram dash for inf scal either

[high flicker]

it isnt gonig to matter that much

[fair geode]

yes it is

its a matter of life and death literally

[gloomy wedge]

MY FISHING POND D:

[daring python]

also is dragon rage my best option for her as well?

[waxen tide]

yes

[limber sage]

defense matters since the defense reduction only matters on consecutive hits

[humble marlin]

defense break only removes your defense for like less than half a second

[high flicker]

yh ut shred the worm

[high flicker]

ur mostly getting hit twice consecutively on scal

[limber sage]

not really?

[humble marlin]

which is why you go for iframes if you do

rampart is right there

[limber sage]

purple haze + rampart

[humble marlin]

if you really wanna use chalice at least pair it with radiance

[limber sage]

[humble marlin]

drae heart can incrase your bulk by a fuck ton without needing other acc to be reliable

[high flicker]

rampart is kinda hard to use

[humble marlin]

what even is there to use

you just

get hit and your iframes are better

nothing else

its a safety net not something to actively seek out damage with

guh

[high flicker]

timing exists

[humble marlin]

it aint a parry

[high flicker]

the charging

[waxen tide]

?

[humble marlin]

????

[high flicker]

wait mb

ramming

[humble marlin]

?????????

[waxen tide]

rampart is not a dash

[high flicker]

whatever the word is

[waxen tide]

[humble marlin]

my god no wonder you think dh is bad
you know nothing

[high flicker]

to move into an enemy eithout 3 seconds of i frames

[high flicker]

assumption

[humble marlin]

ill stick by it tyvm

[high flicker]

also i never said dh was bad

[fair geode]

you said its worse than chalice

but you

never used heart

so

[high flicker]

you dont know that?

[humble marlin]

and chalice is pretty mid

just move on, this person is clearly clueless

[waxen tide]

chalice is not mid

[high flicker]

thank you finally someone understands

[waxen tide]

but requires pretty good loadout to be very good

you cant just put it on glass cannon and call it a day

[humble marlin]

just 2 accs for it to be good
radiance and chalice make a real good combo

by itself on a vaccum its just alright

[high flicker]

js because you misinterpreted something from someone doest mean they are clueless

smh

[humble marlin]

enlighten me

what did i missinterpret

[high flicker]

you said that i said dh was bad

and js because i dont know the offical word for dashing (because it has several words with the same meaning) u think im clueless

[humble marlin]

you framed it as such by making a big deal out of the defense damage

[high flicker]

i literally said it was hard for me to use

[humble marlin]

you never said it was hard for you specifically

and that was referring to rampart, not drae heart

[high flicker]

#calamity-addon-talk message

[humble marlin]

referring to the convo in general

you called rampart a timing based accesory
so i js figured you never used dh nor rampart and not know how they work

[high flicker]

thats pretty a pretty stupid assumption

[humble marlin]

you are not giving me a reason not to believe it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[high flicker]

its more of you thinking ur assumption is true

[humble marlin]

you are more pressed abt me assuming something than to correct what you said or at least give me a reason to change my mind

[gloomy wedge]

i almost died to the desperation because i thought it was a death animation

[humble marlin]

im js gonna move on from this

[gloomy wedge]

ceaseless void is a pretty cool fight ngl

[high flicker]

yh same pretty pointless convo

[fair geode]

i mean if you cant tell apart asgardian ageis and rampart of deities

[gloomy wedge]

also superradiant slaughterer is also insane here

[humble marlin]

superradiant is the thing on your first slot?

[high flicker]

stop pls stop escalating

[gloomy wedge]

yeah

[humble marlin]

no wonder i didnt recognize the name lmao

doesnt it also have an upgrade later on?

[fair geode]

thast the upgrade

saw launcher thingy

[humble marlin]

o

buzzkill's the previous one then

[fair geode]

yea

[gloomy wedge]

that is one funky ass tree

[humble marlin]

the seed

[fair geode]

youre in for a treat

soon ish

[humble marlin]

best bossfight oat

[high flicker]

is that smth form wotg

[humble marlin]

yea

i think its after CV that u get the seed updgrade

[high flicker]

isnt that the seed from MARS-X087

[humble marlin]

the final part of it

you get multiple across the playtrough

[high flicker]

im pretty sure the content for wotg isnt over?

[humble marlin]

prob

i dont really know

[high flicker]

uh whats the next big content mod in development

stars above has been DRYYYYYYYY for some time

[humble marlin]

afaik HoTG has had some goozma rework teasers and well the elephant in the room

basecal

[high flicker]

whats that

[humble marlin]

calamity mod

[high flicker]

scal rework?

[humble marlin]

sunken sea overhaul update

big ass content update

[high flicker]

oh yh that

[humble marlin]

dont think a scal reworks gonna come out since she had one in the last major update

[waxen tide]

scal doesnt need a rework

uhh

maybe mobile phase

[fair geode]

its a cal clone rework

what wings do i get

[waxen tide]

imo harpy

[high flicker]

bat

gl tryna get the material from those wasps

[waxen tide]

huh

[white dagger]

huh?

why do I get randomly instakilled by ebonian paladin

[high flicker]

what am i sayin

[waxen tide]

what wasps

[high flicker]

forgot what i said

oh yh fun fact:

[fair geode]

just look up

[high flicker]

u can cheese slime god on infernum very easily

js make one of the slimes fall of ur arena to despawn

slime god will go into his last phase

[fair geode]

WHTA THE FUCK

[high flicker]

u broke the blood moon and the eclipe code

reload

[waxen tide]

[humble marlin]

does he know

[daring python]

so with an older world, is there any way for me to cheat my way through solyns quests? I already did the debug thing to spawn her but I cant find a way past the permafrost quest

[high flicker]

cheat list

has every droppable item

in the game

try that

[fair geode]

first time i saved the bags lol

also i think good killtime idk

[humble marlin]

i thought your favorited items were like

yk the ones new to your inv that you picked up

[fair geode]

na

[humble marlin]

was gonna say like howd u get an effigy from a bag xd

[fair geode]

lol

[fair geode]

gg

great shimmer

dude like where is the platera arena

[waxen tide]

hateful shimmer place

[spring ravine]

what should I change for post-ravager (using realm ravager w/ chlorophyte bullets)

[waxen tide]

post ravager pre golem
or post both

[fair geode]

i didnt want to do this but shit i think i need to reveal my map

[spring ravine]

post both

[white dagger]

man

how do I get a single white pearl

I have a large world

[spring ravine]

giant clam

[white dagger]

aint no way i'm finding that biome

[spring ravine]

find desert biome, dig straight down

[white dagger]

big desert?

underground one?

[spring ravine]

ya

ye

[waxen tide]

hydrothermic armor
if this is fin wings then get steampunk , betsy or fishron wings
avenger emblem -> deadshot brooch
void of calamity -> recon scope
ranger emblem -> destroyer emblem/amalgamted brain
if your going with steampunk or betsy wings use angel treads instead of fairy boots

[spring ravine]

sunken sea is under underground desert which is under big desert

[fair geode]

yay i found it

[humble marlin]

the vernal pass

[raw fulcrum]

Does anyone know what the best ranged accessory, armor, weapon and ammunition kit is to kill the nameless deity?

[fair geode]

ay

not close at all

[night fractal]

what if I made infernum 2

[smoky dock]

please

[smoky dock]

armor is Demonshade

everything else doesn’t matter enough to stress about

[heavy moat]

See you in three years

[night fractal]

nah

gimme a month trust

that would have to be a pace faster than one boss a day 💀

[heavy moat]

I've gone from making some bosses from nothing to releasing them in a four day period tbf
But it inevitably comes with the balancing being rough around the edges

[fair geode]

honestly i wish postgame armor was classed

[white dagger]

what's the best hook you can get pre-wof

[grizzled onyx]

yeah
speeding always results in issues when it comes to modding

[heavy moat]

Also the problem with Infernum is that many of the concepts in the reworking roster are just uninteresting
So wut happened is making a rework that's halfhearted and kinda weird because the inspiration just doesn't wasn't there

[grizzled onyx]

thats unfortunate

I do think that some bosses are beautifully done in Infernum (Moon Lord is a great example)

[fair geode]

what

[night fractal]

yeah

New DoG AI took like 3 days

My main issue would be ideas

Ain't no way I could have enough ideas for that

[humble marlin]

if the new DoG ai isnt good

ill crawl into a corner and cry

[night fractal]

ok

at least it looks good

[grizzled onyx]

DoG has desperately needed a rework for a long time

he just doesnt feel grand enough for a title like his

[humble marlin]

[heavy moat]

🤝
I think I find myself in a position where I subconsciously reject like over 95% of my ideas on game design grounds, leaving me with Not a Lot To Work With
Have to sometimes actively get away from the computer in order to let my creative mind come up with things when I'm working on a boss and need attack pattern sets

And even then the results are often noticeably imperfect

[grizzled onyx]

what is the most creatively open ended (IE has a lot of potential attack patterns) boss you have seen?

[digital dust]

Yeah its like when on pc, nothing comes to my mind and cant cook, I go lay down in bed and figuring stuff out & coming up with ideas

[heavy moat]

Hard to give an objective answer to that, but if I had to choose from the pool of things I've worked on, prolly the Nameless Deity
Has theming for the cosmic/celestial, nature, the esoteric and spooky, light, magic, fire, etc. etc. etc.

[grizzled onyx]

Along with the divine aspect of it

[polar sedge]

first lab taken over

[grizzled onyx]

Nameless Deity looks like a mashup of a lot of religious beings

it is well done, honestly

i have so many random ideas at completely random times

and i like a lot of them

but i dont have the skill to bring them to life

so they sit rent free in my mind

[smoky dock]

I do agree a lot of Infernum reworks aren’t the most appealing in the world

But it’s still generally an improvement

[fair geode]

i smell cal overhaul

[grizzled onyx]

yeah
especially considering how a lot of the attack concepts are just base cal stuff buffed up visually

[white dagger]

how rare is this damn diving gear!!!!

[grizzled onyx]

the really unique stuff is cool to see though (ML's black hole attack, Are's Blender Beam with Thanatos circling around, etc)

[white dagger]

I got a joyful heart already

[smoky dock]

guaranteed in the ice lab

[white dagger]

from a shark

[lyric cosmos]

hi

[white dagger]

I'm already farming sharks

soo

[smoky dock]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-mods-and-staff-ily-gif-25934904

[grizzled onyx]

i have so many random ideas i want to bring to life

but i dont have the artistic skill to make them

nor the skill in modding to do it that way

[white dagger]

two now

I got 2 pets and 3 jellyfish necklace before getting a damn diving helmet

[queen pond]

Is Fargo's Souls mod a good addon for my 2nd playthrough? (I put on infernum too)
My first playthrough was Ranger with Expert-Revengeance. I'm doing a Mage with Master-infernum-death now.

[grizzled onyx]

dont play infernum with fargos souls

[smoky dock]

Infernum and souls are not compatible

[grizzled onyx]

THEY DONT MIX

[queen pond]

Ah, ok

I'll del fargo's then

[smoky dock]

Infernum and Master are not compatible

[queen pond]

Does it make the bosses harder or smth?

[grizzled onyx]

there is a mod that makes them compatable

[smoky dock]

No

[grizzled onyx]

but it is just stat bloat

[smoky dock]

No

[queen pond]

and should I make a new world?

[grizzled onyx]

they just dont work

[smoky dock]

The patch doesn’t do anything. It just puts a blanket over the ‘DO NOT ENTER’ sign

[grizzled onyx]

i see

[queen pond]

bc I've beat the cursed coffin by now

[smoky dock]

Yeah, make a new world

[polar sedge]

i'm sorry what?

[queen pond]

alr

[smoky dock]

Souls + Infernum will make Infernum AI take priority which will ALSO copy Infernum STATS

[grizzled onyx]

imma be honest
me and my friend skipped Cursed Coffin in our Legendary Masochist Death world until Hardmode

[smoky dock]

Which makes the game way too easy

[grizzled onyx]

its legendary change is genuinely painful

[queen pond]

ah, so that's why slime king had 12k hp

[smoky dock]

new friend

[queen pond]

wait so should I use fargo's or infernum?

[grizzled onyx]

depends

on what you want

[queen pond]

Marginally harder difficulty with new content

[grizzled onyx]

do you want to become a godly being with a hell ton of grinding, or fight incredibly well done bosses with fair progression

[queen pond]

well done bosses

I'll do the grinding one on a melee playthrough

[grizzled onyx]

aight than Infernum is for you

[queen pond]

alr cool

Also, my last playthrough was on expert-revengeance, and I did it in a week. What would be a fair upgrade to that, master-infernum revengeance or master-infernum-death?

[grizzled onyx]

uh

you dont seem to know how infernum works

[queen pond]

I do not

[grizzled onyx]

Exper Infernum

you cant stack Rev or Death with Infernum

[heavy moat]

"Why must our future forever haunt us?" -Primordial Wyrm town NPC

[grizzled onyx]

since it is a third difficulty

[queen pond]

I forgot the name of it

[grizzled onyx]

and Master literally doesnt work with Infernum

[queen pond]

there's 5 dificulties for me?

it's revengeance, death, ______ revengeance, ________ death, and infernum

[grizzled onyx]

infernum is your only choice

[queen pond]

lemme load in rq

[grizzled onyx]

you cant stack

it has to be expert infernum

[queen pond]

It's eternity

Eternity revengeance/death

[spring ravine]

how is hydrothermic armor better than chloro

[grizzled onyx]

cant use eternity with infernum

[spring ravine]

Is there a good set bonus

[grizzled onyx]

gotta choose Infernum

[smoky dock]

bigger numbers presumably

[grizzled onyx]

Hydrothermic's is pretty decent

[smoky dock]

free bonus daminch

[grizzled onyx]

especially Summoner's

[queen pond]

I thought it was like a lower dificulty than it lol

[smoky dock]

hydrothermic isn’t S tier by any means to begin with

(just use valhalla knight)

[polar sedge]

finally have a quick way to get down

[grizzled onyx]

OOA ARMOR MENTIONED 🗣️

[spring ravine]

why would I use valhalla if im ranged

[smoky dock]

https://tenor.com/view/votv-kel-keljoy-keljoyplush-plush-gif-14758875349718760905

BECAUSE

IT’S

BETTER

[grizzled onyx]

but just so you know

for ranger

i think hydrothermic is best

(shroomite is completely useless)

[smoky dock]

for rang*r the best is reaver helm
just so you can play the game even less than you already are

[humble marlin]

its not like that outdamages vortex

[grizzled onyx]

you are not realistically standing still during a boss fight

[humble marlin]

i know

[grizzled onyx]

bro
let the ranger hate go

it is a fine class

[smoky dock]

absolutely not

[grizzled onyx]

what if i made a mod that removes all weapons except for ranged weapons

and made you play it

what would you do

[smoky dock]

do the same thing i did for my DoG fight that one time

[grizzled onyx]

nono

[smoky dock]

where I used Handheld Tank

[grizzled onyx]

i have abetter idea

make all true melee weapons shoot projectiles

[smoky dock]

I will use the wrong ammunition and then not attempt to use the weapon anyways

[grizzled onyx]

no more true melee : )

only TRUEST MELEE

[smoky dock]

https://tenor.com/view/resident_evil_4-resident-evil4-re4-strangle-strangling-gif-27515159

You’re talkin’ tough in the lion’s den, bud

[grizzled onyx]

: )

[smoky dock]

perish

[humble marlin]

burger melee

[grizzled onyx]

: )

[humble marlin]

mreow

[grizzled onyx]

true melee shouldnt exist imo

most bosses arent designed around it

and it is hard to make bosses that feel engaging with all classes including true melee

[humble marlin]

souds like whinning

[grizzled onyx]

shhhhh i am provoking the lizard

[smoky dock]

that’s why I love it

[grizzled onyx]

how so

[smoky dock]

Do you think I LIKE it when they sit there and let me whack them???

[grizzled onyx]

nonono

you gotta go in and give them a warm hug : )

[humble marlin]

actually tmelee is pretty good for infernum since you get rewarded with an easier time to dodge the more you disrespect the bosses' personal space

lel

[grizzled onyx]

with a sword

[smoky dock]

I like it more when I have to spiritually ascend to another plane of existence to consult my ancestors on methods to deal double digit damage

[grizzled onyx]

name a false melee weapon that should be true melee based on playstyle

[grizzled onyx]

bruh

how

[smoky dock]

Entropic Claymore

[grizzled onyx]

how so

[humble marlin]

devil's sunrise

[smoky dock]

https://youtu.be/exSi_s2C9PM

[grizzled onyx]

Cosmic Discharge goes wild with Bloodthirsty

[humble marlin]

maybe even elemental shiv

[smoky dock]

The weapon’s projectiles are painfully weak compared to the true melee hitbox

[grizzled onyx]

it is the most true melee weapon that can benefit it

[smoky dock]

That one too yeah

[smoky dock]

Look at me dead in the eyes and tell me that this doesn’t go hard as fuck

[grizzled onyx]

how are you doing that much damage with a PICKSAW

[smoky dock]

[grizzled onyx]

if I swore, I would

[smoky dock]

i’ll swear for you

[grizzled onyx]

the f word please

[smoky dock]

FUCK

[polar sedge]

finding that one specific type of gem that REFUSES to show up all the while you're being flooded with topaz and diamonds.

[smoky dock]

this user doesn’t enjoy shimmer

[grizzled onyx]

how in the everliving fck did you do that damage with a fcking PICKSAW

[polar sedge]

me who hasn't found the shimmer yet:

[smoky dock]

so you’re not going to question the 200 buggies

[humble marlin]

forbidden tech

[fair geode]

ok so

[smoky dock]

a tually how many buggies was that

[fair geode]

not sure what to put in that last slot

[grizzled onyx]

why the buggies

what is the point

[fair geode]

also im probably going to switch to pbg armor once i beat her

[smoky dock]

how the hell else do i hit taurus

I’m not going to go through like, five cycles of that

[humble marlin]

this is thhe sweatiest gamplay ive ever seen

holy fuck

[smoky dock]

It’s so peam

[humble marlin]

for real

[smoky dock]

The Camper lowkey saved the run

It’s my magnum opus and it’s disgusting

[humble marlin]

how so

[empty flame]

prikki idk if this is a hot take but i beat polterghast on attempt 7 last night and i genuinely think that so far pre hardmode was the hardest part cos there are like three weapons and both skeletron and slime god took me over 100 attempts

like

i shouldnt jinx it tho

scal and exos

could give me sumn trouble

[night fractal]

yeah I've had the same issue especially when thinking for designs of anything that isn't a worm boss, good, fun, interesting ideas ain't easy

[versed smelt]

uhm has anyone encountered a bug with solyn? after defeating providence and fighting ceaseless void should summon a rift, which it did but solyn didn't take me there? I added the mod at first regenerating the world but then removed it until reaching calamitas and added it back in

I'm kinda soft locked?

[dusky ingot]

What class?

[empty flame]

true melee

[dusky ingot]

Respecc

[fast saddle]

is there a guide for the bard class addon for calamity?

[opal swan]

Nameless deity mage class setup is just end game class setup for calamity right?

[opal swan]

Download Dragon Lens

And mess with the value of the quests or equip one of the solyn debug items to redo her quest line

[compact hedge]

what weapons should i use for leviathan and anihita

[fading dove]

i saw someone using asgard's valor on dog in souls dlc 😭

fucking asgard's valor

in souls dlc

on dog

[empty flame]

ok ok but asgards valor for infernum DoG and Old Duke is lowkey minr

[fading dove]

wildly outclassed by two different items in the purpose of "going through dog's body"

[empty flame]

mint

[fading dove]

those being elysian aegis and shadow force

[empty flame]

elysian ageis dash pisses me off

[fading dove]

valor doesnt have high enough damage

i'd be there for several hours

[night fractal]

solar armor

My beloved

2.1 is low-key a gigabuff to solar armor

[compact hedge]

.

[fading dove]

500x slam damage???????

👀

[mossy trench]

how tf do u kill the destroyer last phase

fargo

is this fine?

GENIUNELY

[limber sage]

that is painful

[empty flame]

im sorry because i might be special but it has been a hot minute since i been in the post pg abyss in infernum and uhh why tf are there no reaver sharks or collosal squids? do i need to do smthn else to get them to spawn?

or

they just have really low spawnr rates like it says on the wiki

[elder nebula]

do you have the actual infernum difficulty enabled

[empty flame]

yes lmao

im not that slow

[elder nebula]

the spawnrates are just obscenely low

get a battle potion

(not zerg)

[empty flame]

wiki says they cant be affected by like potions and shit and its just 1/2400 per tick

[elder nebula]

weird

just don't stand on the ocean floor because that's where all the bloatfish and bobbit worms are

go up until the ground is a bit offscreen

and just stay there

also afaik colossal squids can only spawn in the squid dome

[empty flame]

chillin

i dont need squid and yeah i do remember theres like a fuckin squid sphere or whatever where on spawns

[humble marlin]

soggy reverie

[empty flame]

how the fuck do i get sand elementals ro spawn post ml

is it a wotg thing

[wispy scaffold]

Apart from the Abyss, what does Infernum do to regular enemies? I know it massively ups spawn rates during blood moons, and I feel like it makes slimes faster though I can't confirm that part.

[elder nebula]

bloodmoon spawn rate buff is a regular death mode thing

[limber sage]

they spawn the same way as in vanilla

[wispy scaffold]

I'm going from revengeance to infernum without experiencing death, so anything death does also counts for my question

[low ravine]

infernum DoG and duke made me a dash master, yharon couldnt stand a chance

[wispy scaffold]

I hope I can get to old duke before it's removed from the game.

I've fought it in revengeance (it was not fun; I absolutely understand why it's being removed), but I haven't fought it in infernum yet.

[low ravine]

old duke is getting removed?

GOOD

[wispy scaffold]

That's what I heard

[low ravine]

it didnt feel fun at all to learn him

[limber sage]

infernum old duke is extremely easy to learn/understand

base cal old duke is...awkward and annoying

I haven't fought fargo souls old duke yet

[humble marlin]

infernum old duke eternally overhated

[limber sage]

the hardest part of infernum old duke is understanding the difference between his attack growl and ram dash growl

and then getting the ram dash timing proper

[low ravine]

what I did was rely on fullscreen overlay map to see him dashing before hes on my screen

gives plenty of time to react, I did the same with yharon

[limber sage]

I could never

that makes it impossible to register what is even happening on the screen for me

[humble marlin]

i could never either im too blind to use that

[low ravine]

you can control its opacity

all you need to see is the boss icon

[limber sage]

opacity does nothing when you're brain is incompatible with it

[humble marlin]

real

[wispy scaffold]

In my current infernum game, I'm stuck at... pre boss. It's not even any boss that's the problem, just the regular enemies.

I fucking hate pre boss so much.

[tardy cedar]

chad

[fading dove]

?????????????????

old duke isnt getting removed

[elder nebula]

ship of theseus

basically being removed

[slim sphinx]

real misinformation spreading hours

true I guess its not entirely wrong

[crimson hamlet]

Uh guys the class setups is a liar

[smoky dock]

Consider Wulfrum Screwdriver

I love that silly little thing

[crimson hamlet]

It says that statis’s ninja belt is pre provi but that’s not exactly true

Right?

[smoky dock]

It is

[crimson hamlet]

What

[smoky dock]

It’s available post-ML

[crimson hamlet]

But it needs necroplasm

[smoky dock]

Necroplasm =/= Polterplasm

[crimson hamlet]

But don’t phantom spirits not spawn yet

[wispy scaffold]

Yes they do

[versed smelt]

I'm kinda stuck on avatar of emptiness fight? idk what to do now?

[smoky dock]

They do spawn at any time post-ML, assuming Skeletron is defeated

[crimson hamlet]

Oh I thought they were post provi

[smoky dock]

They’re not necessary to get Necroplasm in the first place anyways

[wispy scaffold]

Are you talking specifically about infernum? Because in base calamity, polterghast is so easy I usually fight it soon after moon lord.

In fact, the only reason I don't fight it at the same time as dragonfolly is because I fight dragonfolly pre moon lord.

[crimson hamlet]

Infernum

But I was wrong I guess

Ngl ram dashes seem infinitely more useful than this thing

[wispy scaffold]

General consensus is that the belt is better, likely because it combines dash and dodge into one accessory, but I don't agree. Ramdashing is just too important for me.

[smoky dock]

I find every excuse possible to use the MNG line

But rams are like

<3

[fading dove]

loadout?

[smoky dock]

Very tough choice…

[crimson hamlet]

Dodges suck tho because once you’ve popped the dodge the accessory has lost one of its major functions

And no I’m not swapping accessories mid fight

[smoky dock]

In calamity dodges are pretty yuge

The cooldown is pretty generous with a decent setup

So it can safely be considered to eat 3 or so hits in a fight, more or less

[wispy scaffold]

I don't agree with this. If you're getting hit so often that dodge isn't a significant survivability boost, you were already going to lose the bossfight anyway.

[fading dove]

iirc avatar and nameless are buffed in dlc to account for your soe ingredients

[crimson hamlet]

That’s not enough for an entire accessory slot that I could be running something for more damage

[smoky dock]

In pre-gardmode the cooldown will pretty much always be minimized

[crimson hamlet]

And I am living proof that this is false lmfao

[smoky dock]

Damage has diminishing returns, and they diminish FAST

[fading dove]

dodged hits dont drain adren

plus, ive got a post yharon inf scal loadout that specifically spends a dodge to a consistent sepulcher annihilation

[crimson hamlet]

I don’t care for adrenaline

[fading dove]

i thought you wanted more damage

[crimson hamlet]

Adrenaline is a direct hindrance for one specific reason, and it’s an entirely me based reason

The moment I pop adrenaline, I panic and ignore everything happening in favor of not having wasted it

Adrenaline just makes me panic and I’d rather use it to soak a hit

I am fully aware that this is just me

But adrenaline gets me killed more than it ends up killing things

[wispy scaffold]

This makes me want to mention draedon's heart, but that's so late in the game that it's not relevant

[crimson hamlet]

It is relevant, it makes scal bearable

Besides it’s getting nerfed into the fucking ground for the wrong reason

[wheat geode]

Fishing

[wispy scaffold]

Draedon's heart as-is is absolutely overpowered. It desperately needs a nerf.