calamity-addon-talk

[humble marlin]

switch to tarragon

[empty flame]

yers

deadass>

[smoky dock]

okay the strat for tmelee Polterghast is to beat phase one

Phase two and three do not exist

[smoky dock]

100%

why the hesitation?

[empty flame]

YES IT TOOK SO LONG

but the pattern isnt that bad its just like

theres no room for dmg

[still path]

I beat infernum scal

[smoky dock]

if you're using HoAD and Warbanner then phase two and three are completely skippable

[smoky dock]

🎉

[humble marlin]

ggs 🪅

[smoky dock]

anyways you can switch mid-run or you can just play ball with whatever you got

[empty flame]

wait so am i using tarragon???

[smoky dock]

but regardless, use tarragon, tarragon wings aaaaand absorber. drop BoB for deific

[smoky dock]

Yeah 100%

why the confusion? tarragon rocks

[grim swallow]

do I use all 3 of these or do I drop dark harvest

[night fractal]

what else would you use besides tarragon

There's not really another option

[empty flame]

also uhh does anyone know if i can get rid of the "mysterious portal" in the archives it lags my game hella and not like the fun skip yharon bullet hell lag like slideshow lag

[smoky dock]

uhhhhh

[grim swallow]

you mean the wotg rift?

[empty flame]

yes

[smoky dock]

maybeeee

noxus sprayer

[empty flame]

also dark harvest is sick drop fucking kalaeidiskope

[night fractal]

No

Do not drop kalei

[raven vapor]

just tested , doesnt work

[smoky dock]

Drop Kaleidoscope

You can still be redeemed

[night fractal]

what does #2 do

[empty flame]

its catalyst i think

[grim swallow]

spawns homing orbs when hit

[raven vapor]

makes like charged orbs

of death

[grim swallow]

and has more dps as a whip without minions than kaleido

[raven vapor]

i think they also deal a debuff

[smoky dock]

Resonant Striker produces a series of projectiles on hit. It has no tag bonuses but it has the strongest straight damage output of all whips prior to Blossom's Blessing.

[night fractal]

probably worse than Kalei + morning star tbh

[empty flame]

and theoretically its better than both so just use dark harvest for speeeeeeed

[smoky dock]

It is <3

[empty flame]

yeah where is morning star

[night fractal]

we love Kalei + MS being

+50% DPS

from summon tag alone

[grim swallow]

so I use kaleido MS and resonant striker?

[smoky dock]

No you use Kaleidoscope, Morning Star, and Leather Whip

Or anything with a tag bonus

What's this "Fun" and "Build diversity" you speak of? It doesn't FUCKING exist

[grim swallow]

perditus?

[smoky dock]

You just use the three whips with the best tag bonus

[smoky dock]

yeppers you can use that

[night fractal]

perditus is definitely third best whip yeah

actually

that would fall to durendal if the range reaches sometimes

[smoky dock]

i like perditus for the beeg range and the water splashes on hit for the visual feedback

[empty flame]

should i be using grax or holy collider?

[fading dove]

i fucking love this and how common it is because the elysian aegis hitbox fucking sucks

[empty flame]

i mean both right but id rather just use holy collider

[grim swallow]

is that my build forever now?

[smoky dock]

Grax and Mutilator are the strongest options
Mutilator has about 50% more damage
Grax has a defensive buff on hit
Holy Collider has a niche for the longer range, but I don't think it matters

[fair geode]

perditus has 3 more tag damage and more range than kaleidoscope tho

[grim swallow]

or will I use other catalyst whips

[night fractal]

Not true

[smoky dock]

proof?

[night fractal]

Tag tooltips lie in calamity

[raven vapor]

that can happen??

[fair geode]

they do?

[waxen tide]

kalei is multiplicative

[night fractal]

Kaleidoscope is not 20 tat

[fading dove]

kscope has 1.23x tag damage

[empty flame]

blossoms blessing is pretty good iirc

[fair geode]

ohhh

[night fractal]

It's 1.12x dmg

[fair geode]

oh so ive

ok i dont have to beat argus this playthrough then

[night fractal]

And 1.23x total with the crit

perditus is better on some summons tho

especially on tier

The further you get the further ahead Kalei pulls

[fair geode]

also man im dying to queen bee lmao

[night fractal]

no brittle star 😔

[smoky dock]

wher bribble star

HUH

[raven vapor]

why can you craft 999 plat coins ???

[grim swallow]

and uhh a question

[smoky dock]

cheat mod

[grim swallow]

how tf do I dodge infernum providence starter attack

[fading dove]

it actually comes out to 1.232x damage but its a lot easier to just say 1.23x
morning star comes out to 1.2432x but it also rounds to 1.24x

morning star also has the advantage of dealing a shitton of damage

[night fractal]

uh

Kalei does more

[fading dove]

huh

[night fractal]

Mstar is 165, Kalei is 180

[fair geode]

i dont use it

well i used it for sevens striker

[fading dove]

i could swear morning star just dealt way too much damage for a whip

[fair geode]

but then never got anywhere with that playthrough

so

[night fractal]

it used to be 180

[fading dove]

i know morning star got its damage nerfed

yeah

[night fractal]

Relogic nerfed it

also Kalei used to be like 165

[fading dove]

after it got big buffs

[night fractal]

Morning Star's one niche killed :(

[smoky dock]

[fading dove]

does tag crit chance stack

[night fractal]

yes

Not additive though

[fair geode]

guessing i cant improve anything other than my skill issue?

[fading dove]

you can get bundle

[fair geode]

i dont like not wings

[night fractal]

I'd say obsidian armor, fledgling wings or bundle of balloons, and make sure you spawn the Luxor with Ballista Staff

and a different minion than imp probably due to bees

[fading dove]

is there any viable argument for using skyline wings over bundle unironically

[night fractal]

skyline wings have one use case and that's flight time + vertical control specifically if you care about nothing else

but between Fledgling and Bundle they have no real good use

[fair geode]

i was using dank staff but it was kinda too slow for it lol

but ill go back to that

[night fractal]

try vile feeder

[fair geode]

oh true

[fading dove]

the one thing i don't like about nycro's is that the death message doesn't tell you what killed you

[fair geode]

well into the caves i go for more cobwebs

[waxen tide]

real

[fading dove]

like is it lasers? body? mysterious cosmic bit flip?

[grim swallow]

can my game stop fucking lagging

[night fractal]

nope

[empty flame]

abysmal fight time but i did it?

[night fractal]

good job

[grim swallow]

how does that happen

[empty flame]

true melee

[grim swallow]

ohh

[empty flame]

first phase took like 8 minutes

[fading dove]

2 and 3 aren't phases

[empty flame]

idk inf boss bar says so

devils sunrise could have been so perfect why did they make it follow the cursor

wait

HoAD makes it drop stars its official

it counts

[raven vapor]

https://terrariamods.wiki.gg/wiki/Community_Souls_Expansion/Armor

"perfectly balanced"

[night rapids]

Doesn't seem very useful

[fading dove]

postgame armour is postgame

[empty flame]

where the reaver sharks at dude

therse just this fuckass worm

[grim swallow]

yay providence defeated

13 tries

3 and a half times less that guardians

[fair geode]

ok good

[soft ferry]

what would i do without xeno staff

[night rapids]

battle cats?

[raven vapor]

holy shit it's cute fishron

[uneven dune]

Duke dogron

[grim swallow]

But why was providence easier by guardians

And by a lot

31 try difference

Wasnt she supposed to kick my ass and not commander

[snow sun]

Die

[white dagger]

skeleton <50% hp how?

the homing skulls during the second phase I can't figure out

like, tf do I do??? They rain out of the sky

[fair geode]

love that the dungeon in drunk seed just lets you kinda farm money and bones

[grim swallow]

circle him

[white dagger]

so I need to use wings?

balloons feel too weak

[sour blade]

Yea wings give better mobility

I mean there's way better diagonal mobility in wings

[white dagger]

not in prehardmode...

[sour blade]

Ohhh

Yea

Hmmmm

[dense eagle]

pre hm wing are good enough

[sour blade]

Yeah I'm bad at the game

Don't ask me

[dense eagle]

i prefer using fledging wings in pre hm than ballons

[white dagger]

I can get to sub 50% pretty consistently on skeletron

[dense eagle]

but its all about preference

[white dagger]

but I die immediately after his first homing skulls

(infernum master mode)

[dense eagle]

master mode is just stat bloat

if you thought it will change anything beside stats

[white dagger]

nah

thats what I expected

[fair geode]

gg

[dense eagle]

you seem weirdly slow

[fair geode]

i love dungeons curse

[white dagger]

top run speed 49 mph

[dense eagle]

nvm

[dense eagle]

my brain aint functioning

too hot

[dense eagle]

looks good

[humble marlin]

circle around him dont run away

[white dagger]

I cant

I move too slow

I'll record it

[humble marlin]

also like

expand that platform space

its god awful

use fledgings, skylines suck

[dense eagle]

i forgor

skyline is worse

cuz of the bug

[white dagger]

what bug

[white dagger]

how so

[dense eagle]

there is a bug, i dont remember exacly what it is about, but i only know that fledgings are better

and im 100% sure about it

[humble marlin]

they dont get boosted by boots

[dense eagle]

and dashes makes you faster

[humble marlin]

-# oversimplifying it

[dense eagle]

cuz on the clip it seems like you dont use them to run away

[white dagger]

yeah I need to show a longer clip of how i'm playing

[west tusk]

what weapon should I use against king slime infernum melee? (I forgot )

[white dagger]

for the first like 4 bosses I just used the bladecrest cheese sword

it's so stupid lol

[west tusk]

alr

[white dagger]

(oathsword)

it's an autoaiming sword that you can get pre-boss

goes through walls

[sour blade]

What's that animated thing in the icon of the server?

The reddish thing

[dense eagle]

C

[sour blade]

C

[dense eagle]

and fire

[sour blade]

Oh Calamity

[elder nebula]

it's calamitas's sigil insignia

i think

[lethal cloud]

is there anyway to make murasama's range bigger? cuz damn its short

[sour blade]

Clever

Very cool

It's a nerf because the damage is very nice

I think it's a handicap because otherwise it would be too op

[dense eagle]

not really, but the rework will fix that

[lethal cloud]

oh

i might as well just leave it alone ig

[sour blade]

Ig you have to wait

[white dagger]

isn't there luxors gift?

years ago I remember it made the murasama shoot a funny red ball

[sour blade]

The projectiles

Yea

Technically increasing range?

[white dagger]

yeah

[sour blade]

Yea but it's pre hard mode

[gloomy wedge]

its me

[sour blade]

Hello

C with fire

[fair geode]

i think im ok for slime god right

[white dagger]

how come you only have 5 slots?

[fair geode]

?

[white dagger]

you only have 5 accessory slots

[fair geode]

yeah?

[fading dove]

you get 5 in prehm

6 in hm

7 postml

[sour blade]

In expert

Wait that's vanilla

[fading dove]

infernum is expert exclusive

[fair geode]

do you have boot or wing slot

[white dagger]

no

none of those mods

[fading dove]

shield slot 🤢

[fair geode]

ok so mastermode

[white dagger]

mastermode

that gives you a slot?

[fading dove]

bugs arise when playing infernum in master

[gloomy wedge]

so is my world just stuck in the rift eclipse now

[fading dove]

yes????????

basic vanilla mechanic??????????????????

[white dagger]

oh alright

[sour blade]

Wait with all due respect
What kind of name is Woke Lesbian Jesus (love it)

[fair geode]

show your modlist

[elder nebula]

you have to kill it

[fading dove]

a banger name

[gloomy wedge]

woke lesbian jesus is just 3 synonyms

[sour blade]

Indeed

[lethal cloud]

anything missing for yharon?

[fading dove]

silva wings

[sour blade]

YUM

[fading dove]

also community sucks

use affliction

[sour blade]

Mental preparation?

[elder nebula]

affliction instead of community

[white dagger]

how do you do it in one message/image?

[lethal cloud]

i already beat infernum yharon before

[fading dove]

by pressing f8 twice

[lethal cloud]

it was on summoner though

[fair geode]

f8 twice

[sour blade]

Ur ready

Wait

[fading dove]

elysian tracers suck uber ass if you didn't know

[elder nebula]

also do you really need 5 defensive accessories

[lethal cloud]

yes

[sour blade]

Good headphones to listen to that BANGER background music?

[lethal cloud]

yep

[sour blade]

NICE

All set

[lethal cloud]

so silva wings?

[sour blade]

Good luck

[fading dove]

yeah

[gloomy wedge]

if were posting accessories then what to change for infernum guardians

[fading dove]

vortex armour

[white dagger]

smarter cursor is for block placement and mining to not be stupid

[fair geode]

yeah i use it too

[smoky dock]

you can actually put blood pact into a better slot

position matters for it!

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Trash_Slot

[elder nebula]

lmao

[gloomy wedge]

why we hating on blood pact

[fading dove]

its okay

[smoky dock]

bad

[fading dove]

okay at best

wasted slot at worst

[elder nebula]

it's the stat stick to end all stat sticks

[white dagger]

so?

[gloomy wedge]

then what else could go there

[white dagger]

you asked for my mod list

that was about the slot right

[smoky dock]

it's a stat stick if stat sticks exclusively offered irrelevant stats

[smoky dock]

ambrosial ampoule is really important

[gloomy wedge]

oh right ambrosial exists

[smoky dock]

Holy Fire is relevant

[fading dove]

max stack plus extra is useless btw

[white dagger]

yeah

[fading dove]

quality of terraria does a lot of stuff

[white dagger]

back in my days

[fair geode]

i cant tell why you have 6 slots

[fading dove]

its the master patch

[white dagger]

stone only stacked to 99!!!!!!

(totally)

[fading dove]

theyre playing on mast*r infernum 🤢

[soft ferry]

one of my favourite bosses in normal calamity, still goated in infernum. every attack is super satisfying to dodge! (i don't know how to deal with that big explosion attack that can happen near the end though, i just barely survived)

[fading dove]

close! 250

[smoky dock]

kill this user immediately

[gloomy wedge]

master infernum just seems like a not good time

[fading dove]

you kill the drones that build the nuke

[smoky dock]

the plague nuke is undodgeable
do the above

[humble marlin]

its just the same with one more extra slot and no joke 65 new bugs and counting

[soft ferry]

ohhhhhhh thats cool

[fading dove]

if you want stat bloat in your infernum we've got mutant mod enemy stat sliders

[lethal cloud]

whats a good melee weapon for yharon?

[fading dove]

its bug free and actually functions

galaxia

[lethal cloud]

i was using the devils devastation

[lethal cloud]

which version of it?

[fading dove]

i forget

[lethal cloud]

the one where you throw it and it spins?

[gloomy wedge]

how does enabling master mode introduce 65 new bugs

[fading dove]

i think its phoenix's pride? not super confident though

[snow sun]

Boutta fight edeath lev and anh

[fading dove]

because tmod is build on half baked wishes and silly putty

[humble marlin]

^^^^

[smoky dock]

because Infernum was not designed with master mode in mind
so the game tries to look for instructions on how to behave on this new difficulty and it finds nothing and just kinda craps out a half baked guess

[lethal cloud]

oh yeah i see it thats the spinning one

[white dagger]

tmod whenever you switch audio device:

[smoky dock]

👍

[fading dove]

iirc thats a vanilla thing

[white dagger]

I LOVE XNA!!!!

[fading dove]

intoduced in 1.4

what did red mean by this

[white dagger]

xna my beloved

[lethal cloud]

why is there a fog on my screen?

[heavy moat]

Insidious bugs introduced deliberately in order to dissuade Infernum players off the Dark Path

[white dagger]

craft a plantern :trol :

[snow sun]

And of course big guy is awake already

[smoky dock]

1330_troll

[heavy moat]

Those 65 bugs have your back...

[smoky dock]

i kinda wanna make a "infernum master mode patch but it actually does something" mod and all that it does is it secretly forces the difficulty to expert

bonus points if it spoofs master mode

[humble marlin]

fuck yeah

[fair geode]

gonna get herring staff

honestly idk why its considered so good

[heavy moat]

Infernum but every boss is just Master Death Skeletron Prime rehashed in some way

[fair geode]

it wasnt great for me

[gloomy wedge]

The Fog Is Coming.

[smoky dock]

great damage with the downside of poor crowd control
which is an irrelevant downside to boss fights

[white dagger]

infernum but boss projectiles deal less damage than the boss itself:

[heavy moat]

DoG

[white dagger]

(impossible)

[fair geode]

ok so it should be good for slime god

[smoky dock]

yeppers

[heavy moat]

The fight would go crazy if the tiny lasers did 700 damage

[fair geode]

they still do like

300

[humble marlin]

fucking cats and their stupid brawls

just heard like 4 of those mfs fight on my roof

[lethal cloud]

then you would actually need to almost no hit him

[white dagger]

also, I just got the fledgling wings

I can confirm the diagonal velocity is higher

than skyline

[keen bloom]

how long is infernum scals final phase

the one at 0% hp

[smoky dock]

DO IT

[gloomy wedge]

god damn superradiant slaughterer is STRONG

[smoky dock]

👍

[fading dove]

desp is 45 seconds iirc

[smoky dock]

I thought it was 55

[fading dove]

55 probably includes the time spent doing nothing after the projectiles fade out

[humble marlin]

it would be so funny if this was the last boss change infernum gets

[smoky dock]

i wish

[fading dove]

oooooohhhh

[keen bloom]

what the fuck

[raven vapor]

as much as i hate DoG on infernum , please do it

[gloomy wedge]

fuck this pillar specifically

[fading dove]

so thats why inf dog p2 isnt at 80%

[raven vapor]

it would be fucking hilarious

[fading dove]

its a float

[gloomy wedge]

actually does wiring work in the profaned gardens

[fading dove]

uhhhh

[raven vapor]

also which class shall i play fargo soul dlc

[fading dove]

can't place anything down

[smoky dock]

probably

[raven vapor]

you guys decide

[fading dove]

so i dont see how it'd help

[fair geode]

yeah i hate that some of them arent actuated

[fading dove]

any

[smoky dock]

Experiment and Find Out

[dense eagle]

thrower

[gloomy wedge]

im actuating the shit out of those then

[fair geode]

and you can actually get stuck on them

[fading dove]

i'd recommend not limiting yourself

[smoky dock]

Don't adhere to a class
Don't adhere to a class
Don't adhere to a class

[raven vapor]

rogue it is

[smoky dock]

But if you do

[fading dove]

have fun on ml

[smoky dock]

Oh why do I bother

[fading dove]

56% damage uptime

[gloomy wedge]

pretty sure it's mandatory to play all except rogue on the pillars anyways

[smoky dock]

Make sure you play on master mode

[fading dove]

im not sure if atrophied kills rogue like it does melee

[raven vapor]

[fading dove]

i know ml solar phase allows rogue

oh yeah

[smoky dock]

Expert and classic is pretty seriously bugged right now on Souls so master is the only difficulty that works properly

[fading dove]

maso ml monoclass 🤤

[raven vapor]

wait fr

[smoky dock]

Yeah

[raven vapor]

i thought you were kidding

[smoky dock]

Nah I'm not

[raven vapor]

because master is such a stat bloat

[nimble wing]

?

[fading dove]

dont worry we got actual changes

[smoky dock]

It's not stat bloat on souls

[fading dove]

shhhhh

[fair geode]

can you still fish out the herring staff in infernum

please

[smoky dock]

https://tenor.com/view/votv-kel-keljoy-keljoyplush-plush-gif-14758875349718760905

[fading dove]

from crates yeah pretty sure

but thats post slime god

[smoky dock]

you can yes

post-sg

[fading dove]

or wof whichever's downed first

no idea why you'd do slime god in hardmode though

[nimble wing]

the normal method is netting a real actual herring

[smoky dock]

too hard in phm i guess

[gloomy wedge]

god damn it actuators dont work in the profaned gardens

oh well, worth a shot

[smoky dock]

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th/id/OIP.ufRyg3MVVgR2zefvjWKlowHaES?pid=Api&P=0&h=220

okay what now

[fair geode]

god damn it

[fading dove]

man watching inf dog makes it look so much slower than it is

[smoky dock]

it does

[snow sun]

I’ve been first trying a lot of bosses

[fair geode]

which layer does it spawn in again

[smoky dock]

one and two

[fading dove]

eternity's not too bad, it's more intuitive for beginners

[fair geode]

m

[night fractal]

Real

[fair geode]

im bad

lol

[humble marlin]

make it red

[fading dove]

herrings spawn in the trenches i know that

[gloomy wedge]

god damn that final phase of guardians is hard

super fun fight tho

[fading dove]

ngl boss rush 2 is the best cal song

[raven vapor]

i think painter may be abused in my run

by bug net

[cedar laurel]

Never doing +50% hp eternity hivemind ever again

[fading dove]

what the fuck

why did it die so fast

[cedar laurel]

(This was after I removed the boost)

[fading dove]

ah

[cedar laurel]

Also 6 scab ripper

[fading dove]

ah

summoner

[cedar laurel]

I think it was prob just a minions problem before tho
dank creeper be eating all vile feeder projectiles

[gloomy wedge]

mightve just had the dumbest death ever

[north matrix]

yall im having trouble with mechs, can someone give some suggestions?

[gloomy wedge]

i dodged that one attack where the guardian commander teleports and lunges with the flame trails

i position myself for the next one

but he went down

so he just rises up

and pokes me with the spear

and i die

[smoky dock]

Sure. Infernum?

[north matrix]

yea

[smoky dock]

Which hardmode bosses have you beaten so far?

[north matrix]

giant clam

[smoky dock]

Okay good

Start off with Skeletron Prime since mech1 unlocks the most content

[north matrix]

he was going the best out of all my attempts

[fair geode]

giant clam harder than mechs

[smoky dock]

Deep Diver is a potent and spammable dash which can go through contact damage

[fair geode]

honest to god its not even wrong

[north matrix]

wanna see what i got on rn?

[smoky dock]

Mollusk armor has unusually high stats and pretty much all classes can use it very effectively

[smoky dock]

Sure

[fading dove]

emblem 😭

[smoky dock]

If you don’t like the speed penalty you can drop the shellmet for another helmet piece, including Statigel

[night fractal]

Based harpy wings gamer

[north matrix]

for weapons im mainly using poseidon and frost staff

[fair geode]

whole lotta slots

[white dagger]

Heres a longer video on how I play

what am I doing wrong?

[clear quail]

emblem at this point is kind of valid tho

[fair geode]

wait nvm its just wingslot

[smoky dock]

Uhhhhh pretty much all armor options are good choices in hardmode. Very well balanced imo

[fading dove]

i think what i used was night's ray for destroyer and shpc for the other two (please dont use shpc)

[smoky dock]

Slagsplitter Pauldron is unusually strong

[north matrix]

so i just needa get good?

[night fractal]

I used flamelash last time i did twins (don't do this)

[smoky dock]

Ursa Sergeant and Fairy Boots are also unusually strong and incredibly potent defensive accessories

[clear quail]

the last time i did mage infernum i used shpc

[fair geode]

also wait how do you have harpy wings

pre mechs

[smoky dock]

You have no knockback immunity, so consider Ankh Shield or Giant Tortoise Shell

[fair geode]

[north matrix]

i got mythril from crates for some reason

[smoky dock]

Warding is highly advised

[fading dove]

the only reason i used shpc was because it was the strongest weapon i had access to

[white dagger]

what should I change?

[clear quail]

shpc right click should be better

[smoky dock]

Slow down

[white dagger]

also, I need to update my arena

[clear quail]

yeah you can get them from crates

[smoky dock]

You’re moving erratically and generally moving too much

[clear quail]

fishing is still godly at tier skipping

[smoky dock]

Skeletron can be avoided with surprisingly little movement and his patterns become easier with less movement

[smoky dock]

known bug 😔

[fair geode]

still

yeah

[clear quail]

[white dagger]

during what phases?

[smoky dock]

All three

[fading dove]

pretty much everything

[clear quail]

many

[fair geode]

skeletron is a slow fight

[white dagger]

damn how

[fair geode]

you gotta be slow too

[smoky dock]

The stupud skull spin contact damage attack requires moving faster to avoid it obviously

[fair geode]

no boots

[white dagger]

video's?

[smoky dock]

But the rest? Nuthin’ really needed

[smoky dock]

yeah i cna share just a sec

[white dagger]

and the "skull swipe"?

you have to move back

[nimble wing]

harpy is cool and all but it can't be better than jetpack

[white dagger]

to make space

[fading dove]

the 3 3 5 skull rain is dodged by just tapping a or d repeatedly

[smoky dock]

https://youtu.be/FlAq-O15G7Q

[clear quail]

grazing

[fading dove]

i plan on doing an inf skeletron nohit with just micrododging

[nimble wing]

supplementary https://youtu.be/H60luEuUZNg?si=TujqqVm2Q0ELCKiD

[clear quail]

the shadowflame bomb can be countered by triple jumping

[smoky dock]

Yeah, make space obviously, but you don’t need to do much more. Just jump a bit to avoid it

[smoky dock]

circumcise your links

supplementary https://youtu.be/H60luEuUZNg

[clear quail]

why does yt add that signed thing at the end 💔

[north matrix]

any weapon suggestions for mechs? ill prob do skeletron or destroyer 1st

[smoky dock]

idk i dunno what the hell a poseidon is

[north matrix]

clam book

[smoky dock]

i religiously use the only class that matters

[north matrix]

homing stuff

[gloomy wedge]

do you care about class

[waxen tide]

snowstorm staff

[clear quail]

for dest i use shpc

[north matrix]

mage

[clear quail]

right click

[nimble wing]

What

[waxen tide]

for destroyer I would use miasma ngl

[gloomy wedge]

so one think ive noticed about infernum guardians

the final phase only starts when the 2nd guardian actually hits a block

[smoky dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893924166925955104/1268262256693612554/trueMeleeLocket.gif

[gloomy wedge]

theoretically can you make the phase transition go on forever

[smoky dock]

LOL

[clear quail]

please upscale the gilded whatever true melee 🥀

[nimble wing]

i'm guessing it takes cheat sheet and magic storage

[gloomy wedge]

well the actual issue is that the guardian gets sent at an angle

and because you're in the underworld

[smoky dock]

No <3

[gloomy wedge]

inevitably its going to hit something

but in theory if you could make it fire perfectly straight

[smoky dock]

hoik it?

[gloomy wedge]

i think youd have like a minute to spare

[clear quail]

it always aim at you

[gloomy wedge]

yeah but its fired from the top right corner of the screen

[clear quail]

so like, nuke the hell and use RoD oh wait fuck rod is disabled

is rod disabled during guardian fight

[gloomy wedge]

i know its disabled during final phase

not sure about the other 3?

[clear quail]

the first phase is disabled

flappy bird thing

[waxen tide]

yes

[nimble wing]

cheat sheet to erase the garden borders and everything beyond it. magic storage for its teleportation allowance bug, which could mean you can rod above the commander to bypass its enormous position-locking speed and make it aim up

[gloomy wedge]

thank god for flappy bird phase existing

lets me build adrenaline so easy

[clear quail]

camping for 30s at spawn

just to lose it by slipping your finger

[gloomy wedge]

i camp right at the crystal personally

[smoky dock]

that’s exactly why I don’t do it

and i’d rather pull teeth

healer doesn’t need adrenaline to get curbstomped

[gloomy wedge]

nah the play is to save adrenaline for the 3rd phase

and nuke that guy with adren slaughterer

unfort i havent actually gotten it to work

because i get sniped by a random projectile whenever guardians at like 10%

[smoky dock]

sounds like you’re making it harder than it needs to be

[clear quail]

well at least you get 50 damage instead of 110

[north matrix]

wait wth

skeletron prime took only 6 attempts?

i thought it would be wayy more

yall are harpy wings or dev wings better?

[clear quail]

sprime is easiest out of all mechs to me

harpy wings obviously

twins is hardest

[north matrix]

idk man im not very good at this game

[clear quail]

you will get better bro

practice make perfect

[north matrix]

i only got 750hrs on terraria

[clear quail]

🥀

[ruby egret]

does infernum empress have a chance to drop terraprisma if fought during night?

and also should i wait for stardust dragon/cell for her or is raven good enough

[white dagger]

alr I cleaned out my entire arena

[elder nebula]

yes

[ruby egret]

oh yippee

[white dagger]

how should I make arenas?

[fair geode]

honestly

vile feeder is better for slime god than herring staff

imo

finally

[white dagger]

Like, do people use a mod

Or do they manually build it and add walls

What walls are best?

[snow sun]

Is WLJ on? I need to ask her something

Should I swap chloro out for reaver

[past pagoda]

reaver movement yes

[smoky dock]

I personally build manually

[white dagger]

Above ground or under?

[smoky dock]

Choice of wall is mostly irrelevant
Do not use unsafe walls, obviously

You may choose a bright wall like diamond gemspark walls for visibility purposes

[white dagger]

What’s unsafe walls? Also, it matters for projectile visibility

[smoky dock]

Don’t worry about it

[white dagger]

Yeah that I guess would be “best”

Oh like spider walls

My favorite

[smoky dock]

yeppers

I use lihzahrd brick walls

Take a guess why

[white dagger]

Because they are orange

[smoky dock]

On the surface means more room to extend beyond the arena

Underground means it’s viable for QB, Plantera and PBG

Pickya poison

Also do note that walls must be rendered by the game and so can generate lag

Same case with the underground for some fuckass reason

[snow sun]

I’m melee and in Edeath

[white dagger]

I got a good gpu and cpu, even though tmodloader sucks for utilization xd

20% cpu and gpu while playing

[fair geode]

fuck

[north matrix]

what weapon should i use for destroyer/twins? mage

[past pagoda]

soo

revaer

reaver

[snow sun]

I’m just waiting for wlj so i can ask her

[past pagoda]

tbh i love movement reaver armour i use it all the way to astrum dues

[past pagoda]

use herring staff or staff of necro thingy

necro requires setup but does more damage and herring is more easier

[dusky ingot]

Is there a mod/addon that makes terraria more 4k?

Like some Ultra HD mod that would give realistic graphics to either normal terraria or calamity?

[fading dove]

:(

[snow sun]

Hi

[fading dove]

reaver enchantment 👀

[snow sun]

I was more talking about armor, but I am also interested in the enchant.

[fading dove]

this ench is fucked up bruh

30 defence and 30% dr for just two accessory slots???????

sign me the fuck up

[waxen tide]

🥀

[fading dove]

post plant armour is like uhhhhh

fuck i forget what melee gets

[snow sun]

Holy fuck that’s good

[fading dove]

also the wiz reaver regen is 15

its insane

[hybrid moon]

What happened to the Infernum multiplayer patch

[fading dove]

1.3 valhalla chest was 16 regen

[fading dove]

oh it got removed?

[hybrid moon]

It’s not showing

[snow sun]

What here could I swap for Reaver enchant

[fading dove]

looks like it did

[snow sun]

Nothing really

[north matrix]

is mythril or orichalcum armor better for mage?

[fading dove]

bionomic and supreme deathbringer fairy

[tardy cedar]

what's the second slot

[fading dove]

oh yeah master ninja gear is actually really tasty for golem because of the wall cling

[fading dove]

wizard

[tardy cedar]

playing masodeath throughly this time I wanna check out all cal enchants

[fading dove]

its 15 def 15% dr without wiz

[tardy cedar]

Busted

Anything else?

Also does the dr scale

[fading dove]

its endurance so yeah it is affected by cal scaling

[white dagger]

is there a recommended space between each platform?

[tardy cedar]

[fading dove]

titan heart ench gives 70% faster adren charge when on the ground

so it lets you annihilate ravager and aureus even harder

[snow sun]

Should I swap supreme death bringer fairy for reaver enchant

[fading dove]

yeah

daedalus ench is incredible damage if you can stay in the air

it synergises well with bone wings because of their high flight time

but bone wings are

halved flight time when hit

[white dagger]

How far apart should my platforms be for future fights?

[fading dove]

up to preference

[snow sun]

Boutta fight astrum

[fading dove]

aureus kinda gets eaten alive by nature of being a large grounded target

wiz titan heart is double adren charge rate

(adren is nerfed in dlc)

[snow sun]

I have died multiple times to aureus

[fading dove]

waow

[waxen tide]

amazing for defiled players smh

[snow sun]

I’m mainly using blighted cleaver and abyss blade

Plus lunic for more damage

[fading dove]

i forget if lifeblade is affected by pierce resist

[soft ferry]

is the word 'moon' bloody copyrighted or something

[fading dove]

it is quite literally a ripped png of the moon

[snow sun]

I also have backup help with Black Hawk Remote armed with cursed flame bullets

[fading dove]

oh right dubious circuitry is one of the tastiest accessories ever made

dont need cursed inferno or ichor imbues when you've got it equipped

twins install is one of the single most delicious effects of anything

[smoky dock]

No. As long as it’s reasonably sized. I personally use 33 and 32.

[fading dove]

15% crit chance, 15% attack speed, all attacks have ichor and cursed infeno imbue, you have the effects of cursed inferno and ichor

also eternity mode actually makes attack speed and melee speed scale properly instead of having jumps

it functions the same way that % pierce increases function in btd6

[north matrix]

yall whats a good weapon for aquatic scourge as a mage?

[fading dove]

infernum is crystal vile shard
eternity i think flesh hand is pretty tasty

crystal vile shard is just like really strong in cal

even more so against worm bosses

[grizzled onyx]

why is vile shard good?

it doesnt seem like it got buffed

and it is kinda mid in vanilla

[fading dove]

in dlc its not great because aquatic scourge is a single target boss and destroyer has a lot of pierce resist

it gives local frames

[grizzled onyx]

i see

[fading dove]

the head is a different projectile from the main body iirc

also a 30% damage increase

yep

so it deals double damage if you hit with the head

wait what

shits not been updated for

hold on when did cal for 1.4 come out

[snow sun]

Time to go and bully golem

[elder nebula]

!wiki 2.0.001

[hollow dove]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Brimlash
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page 2.0.001 for a direct link or !wiki search 2.0.001 for a list of all hits.

[fading dove]

ah

3 years

[elder nebula]

missed a decimal

[fair geode]

finally

[wheat geode]

anyone know what the hell i do against infernum mech bosses as it is just exo mechs but watered down atp

[soft ferry]

so i beat Infernum EoL, but she didn't drop the Kaleidoscope and i really do not want to deal with that opening attack one more time or else i'm gonna go bald by the ripe age of 22. what do I do with this conundrum?

[grim swallow]

Kill prime first as he is the easiest one

And what class are you

[wheat geode]

mage

[wheat geode]

im trying but its literally just all three of them

[grim swallow]

The humble alchemist npc/dragonlens

[grim swallow]

Okay, what weapon are you using and who are you struggling the most

[soft ferry]

what do they have to do with this

[grim swallow]

One has a bag selling npc the other can give you the kaleido

[fading dove]

mutant mod letting you craft bags into drops

[wheat geode]

litterally the whole boss fight im not really sure i should use the frigidflash bolt as the attacks are slow so im using SHPC cus of fast attacks and decent damage

[humble marlin]

do you perchance happen to have calamity overhaul

[wheat geode]

i think so yes

[fading dove]

:(

check pins

[grim swallow]

Okay so you killed one?

[soft ferry]

i refuse to use the mutant mod under any circumstances

[wheat geode]

what does it change cus im already in hardmode so i dont want to lose progress

[wheat geode]

wdym

[fading dove]

well it makes murasama the strongest weapon in the game

[grim swallow]

You have mythril for SHPC

[fading dove]

sub 1 minute dog kill

[north matrix]

is mythril or orichalcum mage armor better?

[grim swallow]

So one mech has been killed

[fading dove]

mythril

[waxen tide]

SPHC is mid

[humble marlin]

check pinned messages for this channel, caloverhaul is not well recieved here

[wheat geode]

disabled calamity overhaul

[fading dove]

did you make sure to delete every item from it first?

[humble marlin]

did you put items related to it out of your inventory..?

[fading dove]

if not, your world is now bricked

[wheat geode]

i dont think i had anything in my inv related to overhaul

[humble marlin]

alr good

[pearl shoal]

Calamity Overhaul 👎

[humble marlin]

now the bosses should look like infernum ones

and be way cooler

[fading dove]

now you get a good fight

[snow sun]

Golem got first-tried

[wheat geode]

alr nothing bad happened WOO

[grim swallow]

But either way where did you get mythril
Fishing?

[wheat geode]

nono like its my first mechboss im trying to fight

but for some reason it used all three

[snow sun]

What should I swap chloro for now that golem got murdered

[wheat geode]

but that was for overhaul mod and i disabled it

[humble marlin]

general rule
mythril for damage
orichalc for worm bosses

[grim swallow]

But you have SHPC

Doesnt it require mythil

[waxen tide]

cal overhaul

[humble marlin]

not in overhaul

[grim swallow]

Ohh

What I used as a mage for mechs was piss book

[humble marlin]

poseidon is right there

[fading dove]

i wonder how shpc actually stacks up in cal overhaul
i know its shit in basecal but does the scaling save it

[grim swallow]

You somehow piss on the twins and easily kill other 2

[fading dove]

probably not

[grim swallow]

Yeah it works for twins

[wheat geode]

i somehow got it prehardmode but idk how

i found it in the planetoid

[grim swallow]

Tho I pissed on other 2

[fading dove]

yeah cal overhaul makes shpc preboss

[grim swallow]

WHAT?!

[wheat geode]

oh i didnt know that

[fading dove]

it makes it scale like old legendary weapons

[wheat geode]

i dont know what other weapon to use SHPC has poor damage and frigidflash bolt is too slow to actually hit things

[grim swallow]

Poseidon

[fading dove]

crystal vile shard

[wheat geode]

what do i use for infernum skeletron prime

[fading dove]

its pretty damn strong

[grim swallow]

Piss book or poseidon

[fading dove]

its got pierce too

[grim swallow]

I used piss book for the entire skeletron prime

And for destroyer

[fading dove]

crystal vile shard is S tier

oh right glorious end is a thing

but thats

glorious end

[waxen tide]

glorious end requires whole loadout to work

[grim swallow]

What's that

[fading dove]

the kirby rod

[grim swallow]

What

I havent used that

[fading dove]

the one that makes a star that hurts you

[fiery mango]

the crystal fucking vile shard is actually good?

[fading dove]

yeah

[fiery mango]

This information genuinely amazes me

[grim swallow]

Oh it does?

[fading dove]

it also gives a shitton of iframes when it explodes

[grim swallow]

I thought it was just a boom

[snow sun]

Should I get hydrothermic

[fading dove]

yeah

[grim swallow]

Class?

[fading dove]

oh right

shinobi and valhalla knight are viable too

[humble marlin]

glorious end and slick cane are the sweaty players weapons of choice

[grim swallow]

Also wait
I just noticed smth

[humble marlin]

not something to recommend new players

[fading dove]

0:39 on eternity devi with slick cane

[grim swallow]

I will have an actual endgame whip that isnt kill myself one

Thanks goozma

[fading dove]

gobflogger sucks btw

worse than kscope

[grim swallow]

I mean im not using just 2

I can use kaleido MS and this one

[fading dove]

gobflogger is only better if your summons deal less than i think 612 damage

[grim swallow]

But I feel like its easier to use than fucking catharsis

[fading dove]

the slime cane summons deal significantly more than 612

[snow sun]

Melee on edeath

[white dagger]

GG ATTEMPT 117

[humble marlin]

truly

[fading dove]

actually melee no speed class weapons get mult damage from attack speed

examples include exoblade

im not super sure what else

but i know there's more

[humble marlin]

thought that behaviour was exclusive to exoblade

[fading dove]

melee no speed isnt unique to exoblade

it was a solution by tmod for when 1.4 dropped and a bunch of shit got fucked up iirc

It was originally implemented in tModLoader for when they made firerates actually impacted by melee speed
And then they kind of balanced that out with things that can't swing faster getting damage instead

[snow sun]

I’m confused do I use hydro or beetle

[waxen tide]

phaseslayer is meleenospeed

[fading dove]

shinobi

i wonder if hallow helm shinobi chest and pants is better than beetle scale

because hallowed helm isnt nerfed at all

the melee one

wait it only gives 10% melee speed????

i thought it was 17%

[daring python]

man Im doing infernum exos true melee and the hardest part is the fps. I upgraded recently to a 5600x and a 3080 but its still the same 40fps slugfest 💀

[fading dove]

full shinobi stats are identical to vanilla

offensive beetles have halved strength compared to vanilla

[snow sun]

Shinobi?

[fading dove]

wait im an idiot

[thorny hazel]

Hey
Me and some friends wanted to play Calamity + Thorium
What's the best way to do it nowadays?
I've seen both Rangnarok and the Unofficial Classes mod thrown around.

[fading dove]

shinobi with beetle ench

[waxen tide]

oh wow theres many of them
all arks are meleenospeed
all yoyos boomerangs and flails are meleenospeed

[snow sun]

But I love my accessories

[fading dove]

this was the loadout i used for pure souls maso duke

christmas tree sword is actually kinda zoated

its like a baby fate's reveal

[snow sun]

Also I barely use sentries

[fading dove]

sentries arent needed

shinobi just has absolutely massive stats

[snow sun]

Okay.

[soft ferry]

for my infernum playthrough i wanted to use summons i rarely use, so my plan for moon lord is to throw diseases at him until he coughs so hard his core slips out and he dies

[woven rune]

good for Moon Lord?

[fading dove]

beetle ench gives you two stacks of beetle

[fading dove]

fin wings what

[woven rune]

fishron wings

texture pack

[fading dove]

:(

imo empress

the flight time doesnt really matter

[woven rune]

even w/o boots?

[fading dove]

also you're not slamming anything

[woven rune]

honestly yeah

[grim swallow]

Plague heart

[woven rune]

true but I already got the dodge covered with the mirror

ig maybe swap it for Absorber?

[fading dove]

oh yeha

i always forget about bulk

very much absorber

[soft ferry]

I think i idiotically sold that before i hatched my amazing plan

[woven rune]

word

[fading dove]

the bug got fixed so its safe to use

[snow sun]

What

[supple wind]

i want to do a mega mod thing with alot of mod what mods can you combine with calamity

[fading dove]

there's fargo's souls thanks to souls dlc

and

thats it

[supple wind]

oh

[supple wind]

wait what about the gods mod

[fading dove]

ah

[grim swallow]

Hey guys
Other than the post yharon dudes who will make me hate my life

[fading dove]

yeah most cal addons are safe

[supple wind]

ok thx

[fading dove]

i recommend wrath of the gods, calamity's vanities

[grim swallow]

Tho if you are playing on masodeath/eternitydeath infernum isnt advised imo

[fading dove]

and

uhhhh

[thorny hazel]

Help?

[fading dove]

i can't give much advice due to my lack of experience with thorium

[snow sun]

What basic sentry should I use for old ones

[fading dove]

uhhh

[grim swallow]

Tier?

[fading dove]

flameburst is a safe bet

explosive trap eats grounded enemies alive

also you can fight betsy outside of ooa

ballista gets its aggro sucked by flying enemies if its placed on the ground and does next to nothing against grounded enemies if its placed up high

lightning aura is

its eh?

flameburst is the best generalist

one of the few times where a generalist is good

projectiles unaffected by gravity means that it'll be good against flying enemies and aoe on them means they can do pretty well against the horde

[crimson hamlet]

Just…wear beetle armor-

See this is what I mean when I say I don’t like Fargos

Wait unless that buffs ALL damage

[fading dove]

but then you don't get the stats of shinobi or valhalla knight

[crimson hamlet]

Then that’s stupidly busted

[fading dove]

its not busted

its pretty good

[crimson hamlet]

Why would I when Beetle is by far the best out of them

[fading dove]

there's definitely better on both ends

beetle is by no means by far better than either

valhalla knight has significantly better bulk

[crimson hamlet]

45% damage resistance

[fading dove]

shinobi has better mobility

[crimson hamlet]

Each beetle gives 15%, when you have all 3 you get 45% Dr

[crimson hamlet]

Just don’t get chain hit too much and you take like 10 damage per hit (hyperbole)

Unless the mods change beetle armor, that shit is busted

Or unless vanilla nerfed it but if so I missed that

[grim swallow]

And guys
Do I have a good sentry option post providence

Or do I keep using the crystals

[fading dove]

just keep going with ml sentries

until you get duke head

[grim swallow]

Okay