calamity-addon-talk

[soft ferry]

my hallow spawned over a jungle and i can not be bothered to go make one

[humble marlin]

yeah sadly atp summoners very squishy, best switch is amalgamated brain over counter scarf

[spice birch]

when did i antagonize them

[dusty cobalt]

Not the bowser gif 😭

[soft ferry]

no, the attack also happens during phase 1

[dusty cobalt]

Aint no way

[silver wadi]

would've been funnier if it weren't 10000% volume

[limber sage]

do you have alchemist npc or no

[soft ferry]

i don't want to use the brain, but if i have to then alright

[past pagoda]

counterscarf-deep diver
pgymy necklace-grand gelatin or ursa sergant take ur pick

[dusty cobalt]

Oh it was a video 🌚

[soft ferry]

nope

[grim swallow]

Where dhe spins crystals and shoot

?

[soft ferry]

i think so?

[gloomy wedge]

i played ranger so i admittedly had a very different experience but heres my infernum qs build

[spice birch]

I don't think any of you guys are real.

[silver wadi]

yeah

[limber sage]

do you actively use bows?

[gloomy wedge]

yeah, i was using marrow

marrow is just a good ass weapon honestly

[limber sage]

it is ya

[past pagoda]

wings-angel wings
terraspark-fairy boots for tank optionally
ankh shield-giant tortoise shell
quiver-grand gelatin ig
alagamated brain-ursa sergant ig

[limber sage]

quiver is better for marrow

[past pagoda]

charm-deep diver ig

[gloomy wedge]

ok i dont think we need to bulkmax THAT hard

you still need damage

[past pagoda]

❌

[gloomy wedge]

also this was the winning attempt

[grim swallow]

You can run in the same direction and jump unless there is a shit on the path

[past pagoda]

wat boss

[gloomy wedge]

qs

[past pagoda]

ah ok

get daedulus storm bow

[silver wadi]

pixie wings make more sense, you get more mobility and max life

[past pagoda]

kill destroyer

[gloomy wedge]

im post-golem

im just vibing with snowman cannon rn

this is an old screenshot

[past pagoda]

angel wings give 20hp 10 defense and 2 hp regen

[silver wadi]

yeah I'm fully aware

[gloomy wedge]

idk i tried angel wings and they did not feel good enough

maybe with minecart tracks theyd be better for qs but i way prefer pixie

[silver wadi]

vs 60 HP and better flight stats

[past pagoda]

angel wings better :3

in my opinion

[grim swallow]

The true ranger build is
Cobalt armor
Terra boots
Fairy wings
Amalgamated brain
Ranger emblem
Deep diver
Smth else for dps cant remember

[gloomy wedge]

oh also, flesh knuckles, good af accessory

love that shit

[gloomy wedge]

my ass is not using emblems

[silver wadi]

most likely, yeah, iirc they only spawn underground?

correct me if I'm wrong

[gloomy wedge]

i think they mean truffle npc

[silver wadi]

ohh

[gloomy wedge]

also not correct, ive seen truffle worms in my surface truffle

[silver wadi]

not ranger pilled enough for this

[gloomy wedge]

but that might be a fargos thing or smth idk

[past pagoda]

mabye house not big enough?

also mabye just wait

[smoky dock]

Larger homes are more likely to attract NPCs

[solar badger]

yeah i do

[solar badger]

says the house is suitable

[solar badger]

so its possible to spawn in space? or not possible and i need to remake it lower

[smoky dock]

Biomes only count if there are enough ‘biome-appropriate blocks’ nearby so it’s possible that there isn’t enough glowing shroom ones nearvy

[smoky dock]

it’s possible, I’ve done it multiple times before

[solar badger]

the walls are shroom themed but the space music plays

[smoky dock]

Walls don’t count, nothing in the background does

[smoky dock]

I’m not sure that manually placed glowing mushroom blocks count either

[solar badger]

i have a bridge of 100 shroom blocks

[grim swallow]

Place it around the house

[silver wadi]

you probably just need a couple more shrooms

[solar badger]

by shroom blocks i mean like

[smoky dock]

They might not be close enough
If you wait, though, then glowing mushrooms and blue grasses and vines will grow which DO count

[solar badger]

blue grass

[gloomy wedge]

a pattern like this is really effective for getting a mushroom biome

[solar badger]

oh i cut them all down.

[past pagoda]

guys which should i play pokemon arceus or pokemon diamond

[silver wadi]

dark background / shroom background doesn't mean it's a 100% real mushroom biome

[solar badger]

oopsiees

[gloomy wedge]

monster hunter world iceborne

[smoky dock]

My design uses uhhhh

[past pagoda]

not an answer

[silver wadi]

it has to be dark and have the shrooms in the background to count, which is hard to see in space

[solar badger]

doesnt that take ages to grow the dirt tho

[gloomy wedge]

nope

[smoky dock]

Series of 3x3 cubes with gaps in the middle

[solar badger]

how do i actually get the mushroom to grow

[gloomy wedge]

anyways, anything to change for ravager/empress

[silver wadi]

wait, or use the fungal symbiote if you've found it

[solar badger]

my strat was spreading jungle then using dark blue solution

[smoky dock]

Each grass tile will individually attempt to grow to each nearby block so there are always like, 120 or so blocks attempting to grow at once using that design

[solar badger]

how do i ge t that

[smoky dock]

Surface area = good

[gloomy wedge]

just move the dryad to an underground mushroom biome and then she'll sell seeds

[smoky dock]

^

[solar badger]

does glowing mushroom biome mean purple glowing grass?

[humble marlin]

its usually blue

[past pagoda]

festive wings-idk wat they do ik that fishron wings and steampunk r good

[solar badger]

would this be glowing mushroom

ik what undegrdound mushroom biomes look like but

idk what the difference is between that and glowing

[past pagoda]

✅

[solar badger]

okayu

i gotta go afk so

mayube in the time im afk a truffle will move in

in the space biome

[past pagoda]

but if u make house there truffle will no come

[solar badger]

i just have to hope

[solar badger]

ye ik

[smoky dock]

There is no such thing as a mushroom biome, so you don’t need to worry about that

[solar badger]

has to be surface

okay afk

[smoky dock]

Sleep in a bed to go faster

[humble marlin]

waiting faster™

[silver wadi]

I GOT CAGED LANTERNS IN MY DUNGEON

RAAAAAAAH

this is massive

[past pagoda]

no

change that

NOW

PLEASE

BEFORE IT HAPPENS

[snow sun]

I JUST PULLED OFF SPARKLING LOVE FOR THE FIRST TIME

[gloomy wedge]

this fight sucked, but its ravager so what can you really do

[silver wadi]

caged lanterns my beloved

[smoky dock]

Sleeping in a bed makes random ticks occur like

[solar badger]

finallyyy

i gotta go afk again tho so

[smoky dock]

five times more often or so

[smoky dock]

I wonder if I can eat him…?

[patent girder]

salty

[smoky dock]

okay one sec lemme test

[grave marsh]

omfg

this is so bs

i'm using draedons heart and hit b like a few frames away from winning the desp phase

but my b button decided not to work

so i DIED

[smoky dock]

whenever i desperately need to activate rippers

just punch your keyboard in the vague location of the appropriate hotkeys

[calm dirge]

If I'm doing eternity death do I just follow the standard calamity progression

[gloomy wedge]

While the vast majority of mushroom species (around 90%) are technically edible, meaning they don't contain toxins that would cause serious harm

statistically, yes

[smoky dock]

You can but it’s not ideal

[calm dirge]

How do I find the ideal progression?

[surreal wharf]

Hi

[calm dirge]

I just beat EoC and I'm so lost

[grave marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/chou-immune-gif-22075408

[smoky dock]

You’re playing Souls so take advantage of the resources Souls offers

[grave marsh]

me rn

[calm dirge]

Yeah but I have no idea what to do next ahaha

Like what the progression is

[smoky dock]

It doesn’t exist
Your best bet is to use Deviantt’s helper item

[calm dirge]

oh sorry by progression I mean like

[grave marsh]

there are bosses before eoc i hope you know

[calm dirge]

For weapons and armor

[surreal wharf]

Im deviantting it

[calm dirge]

yes...? I did that?

[smoky dock]

Oh for those, calamity progression is okay. Occasionally take a look at recipe browser to see if other options exist

But even if you completely forget to use Souls weapons and armor you’ll probably still be fine

[calm dirge]

Is there a setting in recipe browser to lole

[grave marsh]

i love it when my wings decide not to work

[calm dirge]

See only what I can currently make at my stage in the game

[smoky dock]

Technically no

In practice yes

Go to the Items list, select your desired category of item, and sort by RARITY

[tardy cedar]

Cursed coffin

[smoky dock]

Scroll down past the items you KNOW are outdated until you get to the ones which you're unsure about

Then check their recipe or source

post-Plantera items will always be of the same rarity, but there's no way to tell the difference between one that's post-Plantera, post-Aureus, post-Leviana, or post-Lifelight without manually checking

[calm dirge]

Huh I'll try that

Thank you

[smoky dock]

Recipe Browser is a LIFESAVER

[soft ferry]

mildly difficult

[smoky dock]

It has more features than you realize
I doubt I've used it to its fullest extent either

[calm dirge]

though honestly deviants item thing is kinda mid

[surreal wharf]

Recipe browser and magic storage are beautiful

[calm dirge]

im using elizzyviolet's eternity accessory guide

i wonder if i can just use whats better according to that guide instead of whats reccomended by the item

[smoky dock]

Truth be told, no guide will ever tell you what the best things are

Because there's always personal preference involved and playstyles and such

[surreal wharf]

Guide ingame is so underused

[smoky dock]

I tend to play really, really aggressively so I will usually perform better with weapons that benefit from aggressive play

[calm dirge]

fair enough yeah

[surreal wharf]

Of course your a lihzahrd

[smoky dock]

🦎 👍

[gloomy wedge]

and thats a new favorite fight in the game

[smoky dock]

inf EoL my beloved

[gloomy wedge]

also the first one to actually kill me since calclone

[surreal wharf]

hows the leviathan and anahita fight in infernum

[gloomy wedge]

i think its pretty decent

[past pagoda]

good

[surreal wharf]

nice

[gloomy wedge]

anahita's fun to dodge

[surreal wharf]

my favorite boss in calamity

[gloomy wedge]

leviathan is worse but they support each other nicely imo

[surreal wharf]

so

[fair geode]

honestly this feels like the optimal perf loadout and i think im just bad but what could i change

[tardy cedar]

It's eh

ok

[surreal wharf]

Why are u actually using a wilfrum item

[past pagoda]

its not

[surreal wharf]

And why is the effigy in your inventory purple

And why is your inventory so full

[past pagoda]

wulfrum-yellow horseshoe balloon

[fair geode]

theres this thing called vanity

[gloomy wedge]

oh right, updating this rq

[surreal wharf]

That is not in a vanity soot

[snow sun]

I feel like a god

[surreal wharf]

Spot

..

[fair geode]

are you sure

[surreal wharf]

Yeah pretty sure

[past pagoda]

were talking about the wulfrum battery

[snow sun]

I think he was referring to the battery

[past pagoda]

or at least i am

[surreal wharf]

the battery

Id say wilfrum armor

[fair geode]

oh

[snow sun]

What dis

[fair geode]

theres nothing else for summoner right

[surreal wharf]

Oh summoner

[tardy cedar]

Voltaic jelly idk if you got it or not

[gloomy wedge]

infernum boss tier list

[surreal wharf]

But why is the effigy purple

[fair geode]

drunk world

[snow sun]

Neat

[surreal wharf]

oh

[past pagoda]

corruption egify

[fair geode]

im beating both before i can use the gear after

i beat hivemind already i could get aerilite

but i wont

[surreal wharf]

So you get corruptioj one in crimson worlds..?

[past pagoda]

❌

[fair geode]

i didnt get obsidian till both brain and eater were dead

[surreal wharf]

Well mine isnt purple

I play corruption

[past pagoda]

texture pack?

[surreal wharf]

I dont use one

[past pagoda]

no i mean him

[fair geode]

OH

[surreal wharf]

Oh okay

Yeah that makes sense

[past pagoda]

its not that colour for me either

[fair geode]

you mean purple like that

[surreal wharf]

Yeah

[fair geode]

that means its always active

[surreal wharf]

Its literally purple

oh

[tardy cedar]

The enchantment table glint

[calm dirge]

what melees are good for EoW

maybe teardrop cleaver?

[tardy cedar]

Is this eternity

[fair geode]

yeah so do i change anything for perfs

[surreal wharf]

I dont play summoner im not sure

get rid of the battery tho

[halcyon trellis]

are the astrageldon rewards worth it

cos its really hard

[past pagoda]

✅

[surreal wharf]

i thought ts wasnt in the game anymore

[past pagoda]

ml becomes free

[halcyon trellis]

addon

[surreal wharf]

Im slow

Forgot this was addon talk

[halcyon trellis]

what weapon should i use as stealth rogue

im using the astrum deus one rn

regulus riot

[past pagoda]

LOADOUT!!!!!!!!!

[grave marsh]

i love not being able to see projectile!

[past pagoda]

also thats good

[smoky dock]

I really like Subduction Slicer

[tardy cedar]

Remove fledgling wings and use Yellow Horseshoe balloon, Replace Crimson Flask with voltaic jelly or wulfrum battery with voltaic jelly

[surreal wharf]

Remove wongs..?

Wings

[smoky dock]

I dunno if it's hoptimal at all but I like it

[fair geode]

i already have

jelly

blind people in chat

[past pagoda]

they have voltaic jelly...

[halcyon trellis]

hydrothermic armor, fishron wings, master ninja gear, abyssal mirror, dark matter sheath, electrician's glove, glove of precision

:)

[past pagoda]

SCREENSHOT

NOW

[grave marsh]

frog leg reference?

[halcyon trellis]

not on game rn

give me 5 mins

[smoky dock]

No it's a typo

[surreal wharf]

Why do u have 2 mods that tell you what mod somethings from

[grave marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/intruder-lowtiergod-kys-gif-6701652745585782902

[smoky dock]

Presumably WMITF? and Quality of Terraria

[calm dirge]

yerr

i wanna try with tungsten enchant

[smoky dock]

that's a bit borderline, please don't post things like that

[tardy cedar]

Oh shit I confused it for spirit glyph

[tardy cedar]

Use eyeleash

Dropped from eoc

[fair geode]

qot

[calm dirge]

is it like close melee?

[tardy cedar]

Not really

[smoky dock]

if you use both of them at once then it'll probably stack together, y'know?

[calm dirge]

i kinda wanna try shredding EoW with tungsten enchantment + cactus + something else

[smoky dock]

Good idea!

[past pagoda]

hydrothemic-astral armour optionally
fishron wings-betsy empress or steampunk optionally
master ninja gear-asgards valor
use spam so
glove of percision-the dragonfolly upgrade from fuel pack do him pre ml hes pretty easy
abyssl mirrior-absorber

[grave marsh]

DUDE

[halcyon trellis]

why spam

[grave marsh]

what the actual fuck just happened

[past pagoda]

its good with spam

also easier to focus on dodging i feel

[grave marsh]

i stood on a platform and it didnt reset my flight time

[calm dirge]

copper enchantment

i might be a genuis

[fair geode]

yeah they will i just dont wanna bother looking for the crimson one teehee

[calm dirge]

do bosses get afflicted by Wet while its raining?

[smoky dock]

what are you talking about

[calm dirge]

RAIN ENCHANTMENT

[fair geode]

oh wait

[smoky dock]

some weapons have a weak stealth strike and/or a very good 'spam' strike so they perform well when spammed
since spam requires less accessory investment, ones with equally good stealth and spam will probably go spam

[smoky dock]

stealth is generally pretty gud tho

[tardy cedar]

if you wanna shred then yea eyeleash is very good at that

It's good at crowd control

[fading dove]

eyeleash isn't great for eow

[halcyon trellis]

how up let me cook

nohit first phase

[fading dove]

slime king's slasher is a bit better

[tardy cedar]

fr?

[fading dove]

yeah

[tardy cedar]

It was pretty good for me

[fading dove]

well i mean its good

its just that there's better

like musket with tungsten ench

and sisyphean gauntlet

sisyphean kinda eats evil 1 alive

though it does require playing near the ground so that you can actually use your weapon

[tardy cedar]

I haven't really used king slime slasher that much is it like tmelee or fake melee

[fading dove]

tmelee

its very strong though

[tardy cedar]

oh makes sense

[fair geode]

so anything i should change in the build or nah?

[fading dove]

its decently large and has a custom swing anim that's pretty damn tasty

only problem is that it gets a bit less benefit from tungsten ench

[past pagoda]

battery-take ur pick of soc fledgling wings vital jelly magi or giant shell

[fading dove]

lemme check how much

[halcyon trellis]

ts good?

menacing

[past pagoda]

no

[fading dove]

oh yeah it also has 1.2x damage if the target is on fire

[silver wadi]

late but yeah

[tardy cedar]

that's pretty nice

[fading dove]

but only if its on fire 1, on fire 2, or on fire 3

[past pagoda]

umbraphile armour-hydrothermic or astral
master ninja gear-asgards valor
vamperic tailsmen-absorber
glove-ambrosial ampoule

[silver wadi]

slime king slasher would be one of my fav pre-hm melees if it weren't for the weird ass delay when you finish one swing and start another

[fading dove]

no idea what 3 is

im guessing 2 is hellfire

[tardy cedar]

I usually use mini shark with copper enchant tho cause I'm too lazy

[fading dove]

souls hellfire is from hell zone which is kinda outclassed

i mean outclasses

literally everything

[halcyon trellis]

i dont want to tank

i want more damage

[fading dove]

because its a postml item

[past pagoda]

this is for astrogelden right?

[fading dove]

absorber deals a shitton of damage when you get hit

[halcyon trellis]

yes

[fading dove]

yeah go tank

[past pagoda]

he has a damage cap!

[fading dove]

empress wings btw

[silver wadi]

he has reactive DR

[halcyon trellis]

ahhhh

[past pagoda]

so yeah full warding

[fading dove]

theyre objectively better than fishron for geldon

[past pagoda]

(also defesnsive over damage anyway

[fading dove]

alright yeah slime king's slasher only gets 1.25x size from tungsten rather than 1.5x

its still a large size increase

but the sword itself is already rather large

[silver wadi]

one of my texture packs makes corruption water green and it's so much more fitting

[fading dove]

that doesnt even look like water

that looks like their blood

[silver wadi]

good

should make crimson water piss colored next

though, the blood water works fine already

yall the sunrise actually looks like a color

[surreal wharf]

Where are the wooden rectangles with no interior

[silver wadi]

gone

[surreal wharf]

Those are the best

[silver wadi]

unlike some of you barbarians I provide my people with housing, not shipping containers

[surreal wharf]

I dont know how to build

[silver wadi]

that's fair

[surreal wharf]

For the most part

[silver wadi]

but you can always learn

[snow sun]

I use magic builder.

[surreal wharf]

I have sone decent builds that i tried to make

[smoky dock]

I didn't either
I just kinda... started. As you build things, you'll start learning as you do

[silver wadi]

khaios has a lot of good tutorials, that's where I started

[surreal wharf]

aint nothin special tho

Lemme see what i got

[smoky dock]

Consider trying to use actuated blocks to add some depth

[snow sun]

I mostly actually build when I’m making my museums

[silver wadi]

I also used google searches for inspiration, even recreated some builds 1:1

[silver wadi]

is this a general tip or is it directed at me lol?

[smoky dock]

it's a general tip

[surreal wharf]

In my main workd every npc is in a rectangle at spawn

[surreal wharf]

Doest that just make blocks into walls

[silver wadi]

like look at this build, when you boil it down to its simplest parts it is just wood boxes

[smoky dock]

Yeah, but then you can have a wall behind it

[silver wadi]

but there's enough variation and decoration to make them actually look like rooms

[smoky dock]

The block also still has the texture of a block and doesn't like... link to other walls

Actuated blocks are legally still blocks so they function a bit differently from walls, too

[silver wadi]

this build was originally made entirely out of wood and had no decor at all, all I did was replace the wood that I used to shape it and added detail

[silver wadi]

sort of

for the purposes of placing tiles, yes, they count as tiles meaning you can't place foreground objects on them

for the purposes of NPC housing, they are treated as background walls

so they won't interfere with your room sizing

[silver wadi]

it makes blocks have no collision, and appear as part of the background

they are still blocks in every other sense though

[fading dove]

best use of them is leg plantera because you get to cuck the thorns

granted living fire blocks and paintings work too

[silver wadi]

actuated blocks are good for details that walls aren't capable of, like diagonal lines in the background

I also recommend building your rooms with a purpose in mind, whether it be functional or decorative

for instance, here I have a bedroom in the top, a living room in the top left, kitchen in the bottom left, (work in progress) dining room in the center, storage on the bottom right, and an unused housing room

[surreal wharf]

ts so buns

[silver wadi]

it's better than all one block lol

[smoky dock]

It's a good start!

[surreal wharf]

i have this thing

[silver wadi]

I'm not kidding either, I would take builds like that any day over 50 billion wood boxes

[silver wadi]

you could actually do something really interestign with this

[silver wadi]

could make it into a worn down lighthouse or something

[surreal wharf]

and thats ab it

[grave marsh]

dude

bs happened again

[silver wadi]

currently on this world I only have my main base and this jungle pylon

[grave marsh]

the desp floor lasers literally went away and they somehow still killed me

[surreal wharf]

this was built preboss 💔

i needa get the righ people in this

[silver wadi]

oof, yeah preboss building can be challenging

painter is basically mandatory if you want to make nice looking builds

[silver wadi]

it's possible without him, but much more difficult

[halcyon trellis]

@past pagoda so this with regulus riot?

[past pagoda]

sure

[surreal wharf]

yeah i used painter for the first sulphurous sea build

[smoky dock]

Consider trying to hammer your blocks to slopes

That can give you a lot of versatility

[halcyon trellis]

wdym sure thats what you recommended

lmao

[past pagoda]

sure

[fading dove]

i think system bane would be pretty good for geldon compared to other available rogue options but im not super sure

like yeah i had to dumpster dive for the theorycrafting

[halcyon trellis]

it doesnt have where to land

[fading dove]

i had to dumpster dive because

[silver wadi]

and don't be afraid to come back to a build and touch it up later

with block swap it's even easier than before to make small changes to a build

[fading dove]

looking at the tmod server config and

this shit not been updated 😭

[surreal cedar]

huh

[surreal cedar]

ur username is based btw

[fading dove]

so true

[fading dove]

master and journey exist

[surreal cedar]

why isn't master in there

or am I missing something

[silver wadi]

first try masodeath slime god I am goated

and I only got hit like 3 or 4 times

magic missile my goat

I GOT BOTH SPELL TOMES

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[surreal cedar]

does magic missle get buffed in calamity

I swear it is goated

[silver wadi]

yes, very much so

shoots two projectiles in 1 click now and explodes (the explosion might be vanilla)

it's better than flamelash for multi target because of the explosion, and about on par with it for single target, if slightly worse

but, magic missle has better tracking from my personal experience, meaning that it ends up having more consistent DPS than flamelash, especially on faster targets

pre-devi loadout now

[humble marlin]

[surreal cedar]

Okay yeah

You are right it is super goated lol

and better than vanilla

[silver wadi]

so goated I don't wanna "upgrade" it into night's ray

[surreal cedar]

I don't really like nights ray

[humble marlin]

frog outperforms it in everyway

[fading dove]

tin and silver what

[surreal cedar]

acutally a lot of the "nights edge" tier weapons are mid imo

like the summon one is just worse than Dank Staff

[fading dove]

i dont think ive ever heard anyone talk about lunarian bow ever

[silver wadi]

was considering swapping silver since I'm not great at parrying with it

tin is goated though

[fading dove]

i more meant that they have anti synergy

tin wants you to never get hit

silver only does something if you get hit

[silver wadi]

parries don't count as getting hit though?

[fading dove]

they do

[silver wadi]

unless it does over 100 dmg

[fading dove]

you take 0 damage but it still counts as getting hit

[grave marsh]

ngl scal desp is unfair imo

[fading dove]

it plays the hurt sound and displays a red number

[silver wadi]

it doesn't play the hurt sound though

nor does it display a number

[fading dove]

it does for me

[silver wadi]

it makes a funny shiny sound, does the silver effect, and gives me iframes

I don't lose adren at all either, so it's not like it's reducing it to 1 dmg or something

[fading dove]

granted i mainly have experience with the best parry in the game

[silver wadi]

pumpking cape the goat

[fading dove]

so true

deathray coming for you? just say no

[humble marlin]

crazy

[silver wadi]

there's not really any other enchants I'm crazy about for devi tbf

shadow is alright, but imo darkened heart does its job a little better

maybe meteor? but I'm not really grounded much and the meteors are too slow to hit her usually

[calm dirge]

is it just me or is

skeletron eternity

super unfun

and annoying

[silver wadi]

he's alright

a little annoying, but fine

skeletron prime though

[humble marlin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/960950265509453894/1107498529133441095/930422780124606474.gif

[silver wadi]

whoever decided to give that asshole 8 arms

I will find you

[humble marlin]

spider pirme

[grave marsh]

devourer of gods:

[west tusk]

which is better for melee scal, purity, or badge of honor

[fair geode]

finally

[smoky dock]

It depends on your choice of weapon

If a weapon can effectively use Purity, then it will want Purity. If it can't, then it either uses Badge of Bravery or neither at all

The most common weapon that I personally see used for inf SCal on melee is Exoblade, and Exoblade can use Purity well

[west tusk]

alr bet

thanks

[smoky dock]

👍

[silver wadi]

got the abyss shocker for the first time, this thing is surprisingly good

[surreal cedar]

abyss shocker is great

[silver wadi]

I was farming a diving helmet and aquatic heart lol

[spare holly]

the phantasmal fury is the greatest weapon ever bro

[surreal cedar]

pre-DoG mage items are just dumb

[prime crystal]

Guys any tips for fargo eternity-revengance mechanical bosses?

[steady geode]

do they even mix?

[silver wadi]

destroyer is fairly easy, but the probes will eat your projectiles if they come from you

things like daedalus and meteor staff are good for avoiding that

twins are the most fair, they have some similarities to infernum twins as well

[fading dove]

yeah

[silver wadi]

skeletron prime is the most annoying piece of shit fuckass boss in eternity

[fading dove]

prime is eajy modo

[silver wadi]

I hate prime so much

[steady geode]

boc is stupid there

[silver wadi]

brain is fine

[steady geode]

its hard without arena

[spare holly]

I LOVE YOU PHANTASMAL FURY

YOU ARE THE BEST

[steady geode]

thank you

[wheat radish]

brain on its way to be impossible without homing weapons in master death

[spare holly]

old duke's scales are actually really good

[lethal hinge]

How do you avoid this laser wall I haven't found any way to get far away from it or dash through or anything

Infernum also

[smoky dock]

I think it has something to do with proximity. Maybe a punishment for getting too far away?

[elder nebula]

what fucking boss is that

[silver wadi]

jared

[spare holly]

infernum wyrm

[steady geode]

alt f4

[lethal hinge]

:(

[steady geode]

no other idea

[lethal hinge]

Maybe yeah I stayed closer and it's not doing it

[steady geode]

isnt infernum water worm is pre yharon boss?

[waxen tide]

if you are talking about primordial wyrm then its post yharon

[wheat radish]

what kind of fucking boss hits you with that

Jared 💀

[lethal hinge]

It's post yharon

[wheat radish]

since when does Jared murder you with a solid wall of laser

[lethal hinge]

I think it's just a mechanic to prevent you from getting you too far away

Can't teleport around it either cause funny invincible button

[wheat radish]

the ehat

wht

[lethal hinge]

When you teleport he goes invincible and instakills you

[wheat radish]

.

[lethal hinge]

Chaos state debuff from rod or relocator

[wheat radish]

ngl it would be funner if it summoned another wyrm

and if you do it again each existing wyrm duplicates

[waxen tide]

sounds like alot of lag

[grave marsh]

lowkey

maid dress when scal

[lethal hinge]

This whole enchant mechanic looks cool

[humble marlin]

clean yo damn graves

[prime crystal]

Yea I'm trying ranged with all kinds of arrow and bows, deadalus, flarewing, cursed arrows

But that mf is just taking too long to die and i seems impossible to dodge everything

Dose that mean im just shit as dodging

[humble marlin]

kill brimmy and use hellborn

-# the same way you would use a true melee weapon

[steady geode]

is mage lowkey fire for infernum?

[humble marlin]

any class is viable

[woven rune]

late game yeah

[steady geode]

what class is most fun and easy

[grave marsh]

what

[steady geode]

im a skill issue and i want to retry infernum

[prime crystal]

Will give it a try then, thanks food dude

[woven rune]

melee, summoner, and mage for easy

depends on stage of game ofc

[steady geode]

i have problems in early game mostly

[prime crystal]

Why do you have millions of potions?
Wont 30 just give y the buff forever?

[steady geode]

late game is easy cuz mobility

[woven rune]

mage is annoying as hell early game

go melee or summoner

[grave marsh]

dawg

i don't have that qol mod

[humble marlin]

if you know what to go for every class early game is trivial

[steady geode]

isnt summoner bad in calamity

[woven rune]

no

[steady geode]

or im missing it with ranger

[woven rune]

its literally the strongest class 😭

[steady geode]

i thought mage is strongest class because of kevin

[woven rune]

strongest class isn't determined by one weapon

summoner is just consistently overpowered for every stage of the game

and not the OP that people just confuse with good

I mean genuinely overpowered

[lucid cypress]

man small worlds are awesome

[woven rune]

why are we making a small world lol

[surreal cedar]

Really

I thought twins were the worst

Skele was easiest

[grave marsh]

thats carl

[prime crystal]

Prime didnt sound bad

[grave marsh]

say hi

[surreal cedar]

destroyer was whatever

[prime crystal]

Twins wee shit

[lucid cypress]

infernum fucked my jungle biolab so i need to get my schematic somewhere else

small worlds generate faster

[prime crystal]

I mean i didnt beat any mech boss yet
But twins seem impossible
Skele seems meh
Destroyer is the easiest so im trying to kill him to cleans my world was it is 70% corrupted now

[humble marlin]

-> <-

[lucid cypress]

m1 not required for most bosses

[steady geode]

is infernum dog gonna steal my fps twice as much?

[silver wadi]

I really hate the slight angle on devi's heart beams

[humble marlin]

not really

unless you lag with laser walls

then yes

[woven rune]

Infernum DoG lags less than normal DoG

[lucid cypress]

my laggiest experience in infernum is just halibut cannon existing

[woven rune]

laser walls are optimized better from my experience

whats up with Halibut Cannon in Infernum anyway

it gets nerfed right?

[lucid cypress]

its kinda poopy

[humble marlin]

cant say anything abt that since its been almost a year since i last played base

[woven rune]

I tried turning off Infernum Mode after getting it one time and the stats didnt change

so surely its not Shadowspec level in Infernum right?

[humble marlin]

-> <-

[humble marlin]

its not

its post yharon

[lucid cypress]

its not even exo weapon level

[steady geode]

i have no idea why my terraria lags sometimes

[woven rune]

so then it does get nerfed in Infernum?

[humble marlin]

it still kicks ass

[woven rune]

ik that

[steady geode]

i was playing today crafted the exo bow and my fps gone to 40 for no reason

[humble marlin]

down to 25(? base damage

[woven rune]

ah

[humble marlin]

from 50

[woven rune]

gotcha

[lucid cypress]

i used it with godslayer slags for thanatos and it did half the damage of the drat and cut my fps into quarters

[humble marlin]

could be wrong

[fair geode]

crown jewel isnt real

[lethal hinge]

Why does even say the halibut cannon is busted it does 37 damage lol

[humble marlin]

yeah cuz u used a shitty ammo

you use bloodfire bullets

[formal spear]

Hi, I just finished vanilla terraria and want to start calamity, should I play just calamity or should I add more mods to it? Thanks

[humble marlin]

it hits a lot of times

[lethal hinge]

Ahhhh ok

[humble marlin]

base calamity

[lucid cypress]

throw wotg on there trust

[humble marlin]

dont play addons until you have a good understanding of the mod*

[woven rune]

^

[fair geode]

god damn that took a while

[slow sail]

someone has defeated abomination from fargo soul with rogue?

[formal spear]

so just base calamity with some quality of life mods?

[night fractal]

You'll want recipe browser for sure too

[woven rune]

that's what I'd recommend

Cal + QoL

[night fractal]

I'd be careful on the quality of life mods tbh

[woven rune]

get the basics

[fair geode]

hopefully ready for bee

[woven rune]

if you get too many it can be a bit of a crutch fs

[night fractal]

A lot of QoL mods can turn the game into a boss rush

[humble marlin]

indeed
if you want my recommendations for good QoL that doesnt brick your game:
Bosschecklist lite
Fargos mutant mod
Quality of terraria
prismas pristine potions
magic storage

dont really need anything else

[woven rune]

not necessarily a bad thing though

[formal spear]

I was thinkink stuff like magic storage, boss check list, etc and maybe alchemist npc

[woven rune]

if you're someone who primarily enjoys the game for the bosses then this is fine

[night fractal]

it's not a bad thing if that's specifically what you want

But it IS different than the intended experience

notably so

[slow sail]

luiAFk is a good one too no?

[humble marlin]

absolutely not

[surreal cedar]

Most QoL items just give you every single rare or hard to farm item in the game

[night fractal]

Quality of Terraria is better than luiafk

[surreal cedar]

very early on

[night fractal]

yeah

[humble marlin]

i would rather not play russian roullete everytime i open my world

[fair geode]

?

[rich sand]

is yharin ever gon get added

[surreal cedar]

I think QoL is just usually straight up op

[rich sand]

it been 2 years

[slow sail]

why?

[humble marlin]

wait 7 more

[night fractal]

It has been more than 2 years dw, yharim is not high on our priority list right now

[humble marlin]

can break parts of the game for no reason at all/ a bit outdated and not as customizable as QoT

[night fractal]

QoT is nice because it's so customizable

[rich sand]

oh i didnt notice a dev here, whats the highest priority rn?

[woven rune]

I'd imagine releasing SSO lol

[night fractal]

The next update is the sunken sea Overhaul part 1

[rich sand]

i thought yharim was the final boss as he is the main antagonist

[slow sail]

they will add another boss on the process or yharin is the next, i just know ravager gonna get a rework and replacment

[silver wadi]

I am losing my mind because I just do not have enough flight time for devi

[spare holly]

i don't trust people who use quality of terraria

[night fractal]

Yes

He will be

[humble marlin]

y

[surreal cedar]

Mod is getting like reworked

[night fractal]

We're not focused on adding any new bosses atm

[surreal cedar]

bosses need reworks

badly

[night fractal]

we're fixing what we already have to make it good

[fair geode]

fuck reworks im more hyped for resprites

[humble marlin]

i need me those mage reworks

[surreal cedar]

I have a super hot take

[rich sand]

yharim abouta get added when i graduate in the next 2 years

[night fractal]

probably not

[surreal cedar]

I think revengeance and death should just be scrapped

[night fractal]

it'll probably be longer than 2 years tbh

[rich sand]

😔

[surreal cedar]

and mod should be balanced around expert

[night fractal]

oo

Ok*

[woven rune]

potential hot take but I could care less about Yharim

[night fractal]

We won't scrap them though

[woven rune]

I don't need a new boss

Just make the current ones less boring

[surreal cedar]

I think it is a big issue with balance

[night fractal]

Next patch DoG is basically a new boss anyway with how different it feels to fight

[rich sand]

jst play infernum

[night fractal]

why

[woven rune]

I do lmao

[woven rune]

how so

[rich sand]

i started infernum a week ago

[night fractal]

you'll see

[fair geode]

is there gonna be an npc selling the alcohols or are we just condemned to craft them

[night fractal]

neither

[surreal cedar]

because the numbers have become so inflated that balancing becomes difficult

[rich sand]

40 hrs of playtime and the exomech batteries take forever

[night fractal]

that's not due to Revengeance

[deft lake]

infernum mechs have been my first roadblock

[surreal cedar]

with bigger numbers it is harder to math everything out

[night fractal]

or Death

[fair geode]

death and rev dont add number bloat what

thats master

[night fractal]

Bigger numbers actually do not make it harder to math out

[rich sand]

make the cyborg npc sell the exo batteries or something

[slow sail]

he will probably have triple the size so

[fair geode]

death and rev change boss ai

[surreal cedar]

No the mod is balanced arround something that has double the stats of vanilla

[rich sand]

1 every 15 sec

[night fractal]

Alcohol will get a unique brewing system

[fair geode]

ooo

[night fractal]

No

[grave marsh]

whats the no-hit mod you people use, idk the name 😭

[night fractal]

He's not getting resprited yet

[fair geode]

new crafting station?

[night fractal]

Just made to be a good fight instead of a bad one

[humble marlin]

nycros nohit efficiency

[surreal cedar]

Take the Sand Sharknado staff and the typhoon staff. They both literally do the same exact thing but one has like double dps and is obtained much earlier

[rich sand]

imagine if you never noticed that you needed the batteries until right before the exo boss

[night fractal]

We'll see, plans are not yet really decided

[grave marsh]

thx

[night fractal]

That's not due to Revengeance or Death lol

[rich sand]

now you gotta wait hours upon hours

[humble marlin]

just make everything blorbs and scoria surely it hasnt been done before

[night fractal]

that's due to the fact we have 750 items to balance

and vanilla makes minions that suck at doing their job

[formal spear]

so this list should be ok?

[night fractal]

And Fabsol liked giving bosses crack so they move at mach 10

[fair geode]

oh yeah how far in the making are the armor reworks?

[night fractal]

Use Boss Checklist Lite instead

[little steppe]

speed = difficulty clearly

[surreal cedar]

ehh whatever

[fair geode]

im really excited for those

[rich sand]

have 2 team one on balancing and reworking and one on developing new bosses

[night fractal]

no

[fair geode]

that means lower quality on both

[surreal cedar]

there's more to do than that anyways

[night fractal]

I don't know any dev that really wants to make yharim right now

[slow sail]

that mod where it point where the boss is out of screem would be great too

[surreal cedar]

stuff like bugs, changes etc

[night fractal]

we want the mod to be in a state we're happy with before giving it the capstone

[little steppe]

fabsol's ghost

[rich sand]

wbt murasama

[night fractal]

What about it

[surreal cedar]

oh btw there's still a tip that mentions the drunk princess while loading in to a world

[rich sand]

ive seen a reel years ago talking about its rework and almost finishing

[humble marlin]

-# adding a new boss rn would be the worst idea imo since theres so much that needs a rework/modernizing that it would just make things worse

[empty flame]

does anyone know if infernum or wotg has like a minimum spec requirement guideline cos ngl my pc done been having a hard time running this shit (i have a ryzen 2600 and a rx 5600xt)

[little steppe]

you got lied to

murasama rework is at like 1% on the making

[night fractal]

murasama rework isn't even being worked on atm

[empty flame]

or any mods that might be causing frame drops

[rich sand]

i prob got clickbaited

[humble marlin]

should be good enough with a modlist smaller than 30

[formal spear]

thanks for help guys ❤️

[little steppe]

it will eventually get a rework

[night fractal]

yup we missed it

[little steppe]

eventually

[rich sand]

3-4 years

[fair geode]

the guy making those shorts is like

[little steppe]

prob more

[fair geode]

basically always saying ooo its right around the corner

[humble marlin]

Mura isnt it

[fair geode]

just baiting

[surreal cedar]

why does mura need a rework

I feel like it is fine tbh

[night fractal]

The murasama rework won't be THAT far off probably

[rich sand]

im gonna be halfway through college when it releases a new boss

[humble marlin]

Ov*rhaul

[night fractal]

but it isn't going to be in 2.1

[little steppe]

so we can kill cal overhaul

[empty flame]

one of the alc npc tooltips still uses "fabsols vodka" i think

[fair geode]

thats alch npc

not cal

[humble marlin]

thats an alchnpc problem

[fair geode]

also ew a*chnpc

prismas supremacy

[empty flame]

just to make it more versatile because true melee have like scraps as is

[humble marlin]

preach queen

[empty flame]

still

[fair geode]

still talk to the alch npc devs not the cal devs

[surreal cedar]

True melee used to be cracked

like 2-3 years ago

[humble marlin]

true melee basecal: 😴
true melee infernum:

[little steppe]

used?

[fair geode]

it still bro

[little steppe]

looks at subshocker

[fair geode]

look at sub shocker

[night fractal]

true melee will be even more cracked don't worry

[fair geode]

holy shit

hivemind

[night fractal]

Gilded Proboscis and Mirror Blade are cooking so hard

[empty flame]

i genuinely run it just for the "alchemist" npc ngl (potion ingredients) all the other ones are cheating imo

[little steppe]

peak

[surreal cedar]

I remember like platinum sword doing like 50 damage

[humble marlin]

subshocker glazers when i show em devils sunrise

[surreal cedar]

like crazy shit

[rich sand]

is rogue getting any changes?

[slow sail]

i fear true meele players

[night fractal]

Eventually

[humble marlin]

this channel is full of them

me included

[rich sand]

big or small ones

[little steppe]

fear me

[surreal cedar]

I'm a mage player

[night fractal]

Big

Small ones too but

[fair geode]

honestly imo proboscis should be kinda an upgrade to subshocker

[night fractal]

There are big ones planned

[empty flame]

not tmelee no?

[slow sail]

[night fractal]

Too bad

[fair geode]

healing on hit is nice but

[little steppe]

nah

[night fractal]

It's far cooler than that

[fair geode]

the lightning bird

[humble marlin]

it might aswell be

[little steppe]

proboscis should be its own thing

[empty flame]

just make probiscis not a spear

[fair geode]

oo

[night fractal]

No.

[fair geode]

proboscis already was not a spear

[empty flame]

💔

[fair geode]

iirc

[night fractal]

It's a spear

[empty flame]

i guess like

[fair geode]

it was a spinning weapon like drage before no

[night fractal]

no

[fair geode]

might be tripping

[rich sand]

there should be more weapons like storm maiden retribution having to charge up attacks instead of spamming it

[empty flame]

its the only true melee spear until dragon rage

or at least the only viable one

[spare holly]

does silva revive stack with nebulous core

[night fractal]

I don't think drage is a spear lol

[grave marsh]

ngl ml is such a goat

[rich sand]

most rogue weapons get more dps from spamming

[empty flame]

it looks like a spear idfk

[night fractal]

It is a baton

[grave marsh]

for anything pesky below luminite you can just use him to shimmer and get it

[humble marlin]

i still think that storm maiden being technically able to one shot scal is hilarious

[rich sand]

which kinda make stealth feel a little bit useless

[empty flame]

the wiki js says weapon

[night fractal]

I may have accidentally made gilded proboscis one shot Guardian Healer and Guardian Defender

[humble marlin]

dps is a useless metric for this reason btw

[rich sand]

did storm maiden get nerfed?

[surreal cedar]

stealth is a weird mechanic imo

[humble marlin]

stealth rogue is arguably the best class atm

[night fractal]

Not true

[night fractal]

Not when morning star and kaleidoscope exist

[surreal cedar]

idk abou that tbh

[rich sand]

isnt summoning?

[silver wadi]

"just dodge bro"

[fair geode]

stealth rogue is so fun

[night fractal]

Without those then yes it's stealth rogue

[empty flame]

wait so when you play rouge are you supposed to actually use stealth cos i remember i played it my first playthrough i just spammed all game and used stealth like intermittently

[surreal cedar]

I think mage and summoner are silly tbh

[humble marlin]

how did u get that it got nerfed from that sentence

[silver wadi]

tf you want me to dodge here genuinely?

[empty flame]

stealth only rogue might be kinda funny

[slow sail]

thats masochist mode?

[silver wadi]

yep, and she put most of the damn ring in the floor because of unlucky timing

this fight is very fair

[rich sand]

i used it a few days ago on a test slot and it doesnt do 1m dps

[humble marlin]

data and killtimes dont care about your feelings
summoner is usually regarded as the best cuz of its ease of use
but you can kill everything extremely fast with an optimized rogue setup.

[silver wadi]

"erm actually you should've accounted for that by removing everything in that vertical chunk of the world" fuck off

[rich sand]

it was close to 1m when i tested it with buffs and accessories

[slow sail]

im gonna try a rogue run in fargo soul death + eternity, any tip?

[silver wadi]

maso devi is just straight up not designed for a pre-hm char's mobility, there have been several attacks that I only got hit by because of my wing time running out

[fair geode]

i should redo my stealth rogue run

[silver wadi]

death eternity is fine, just play like normal cal but experiment with fargo's items

[night fractal]

you are forgetting that morning star + kaleidoscope is literally +50% DPS by summon tag

[surreal cedar]

you don't

[humble marlin]

dummy testing?

[silver wadi]

that sounds about right

[surreal cedar]

you just don't lol

[rich sand]

ye

[night fractal]

summoner does bypass rogue in power on most bosses post empress

[rich sand]

also boss too

[silver wadi]

maso devi is comically overtuned for pre-hm

[empty flame]

true melee killing every early hardmode boss in under a minute

[surreal cedar]

Deviant is a little rng tbh

[silver wadi]

a little?

[surreal cedar]

like it is mostly skill but can do attacks in random order

[silver wadi]

my problem with devi is she just has too many fucking attacks, and maso makes that even worse by upgrading almost ALL of them in phase 2

[humble marlin]

stacking sucks

[surreal cedar]

That's the nice way of putting it

[surreal cedar]

You should see mutant

[silver wadi]

so you have to learn double the fight, get rid of an extra 50% HP, and for what?

a good pre-hm armor set that's completely unnecessary?

[surreal cedar]

You want her essence

forgot what it was called

[night fractal]

I also am anti stacking gang but

+24% DPS from morning star tag and +23% DPS from Kalei tag is a

moment

[surreal cedar]

deviant energy

[silver wadi]

no shit, but it doesn't matter

[surreal cedar]

You want that for WoF

[silver wadi]

nope

I do not

[surreal cedar]

what class are you

[silver wadi]

source: I beat wall without any devi drops on masodeath, it was easier than beating devi

[humble marlin]

pls tell me this aint additive

[silver wadi]

mage

[surreal cedar]

you know what

Yeah you are right actually

[fair geode]

i am really fuckin creative with these names i tell you what

[slow sail]

i never played fargo soul, but i know abomination should be post moon lord, but with the mod that make it compatible with calamity hes put in other place?

[silver wadi]

I just straight up beat wall, think I might have beaten first mech, then came back and curbstomped her

[surreal cedar]

Deviant Energy isn't useful until later really

[humble marlin]

mage dlc beating out dlc summoner (until kalei cuz that shits broken) will always be my comfort fact of the year

[silver wadi]

only pre-hm devi stuff is zephyr boots (slight upgrade to terraspark), nekomi armor (good but not necessary imo), and supreme deathrbinger fairy (lmao)

and sparkling adoration, arguably the best thing to get from her

[slow sail]

thats with drunk seed?

[fair geode]

yeah

[surreal cedar]

What is your least favorite maschdeath boss

like to play against

[silver wadi]

so far it's devi

I've only made it to post 2 mechs though on masodeath iirc

oh wait no

scourge was pretty high up there too

[surreal cedar]

I really hated archmage

[silver wadi]

aquatic scourge

really?

[surreal cedar]

Summoner was hard because he was fast

[silver wadi]

masodeath archmage was fine, think he only took me like 2 attempts

ah

[surreal cedar]

But aquatic scourge was easier for me

[silver wadi]

but yeah, pre-hm devi is super high up on my shit list

[surreal cedar]

i feel like deviant and just some fargo bosses in general need to not do certain attacks in order

you feel me

[fair geode]

hopefully prefs arent a piece of shit for rogue as they were for summoner

[surreal wharf]

Hi

[silver wadi]

the fargo's NPC bosses IMO need to get rid of the fuckin random attack order

that shit is what will really mess you up

[surreal wharf]

They arent too hard for robue

Rogue

[surreal cedar]

I think mutant is more consistent

iirc

[humble marlin]

you should def fight masodeath ml as rogue only

[surreal wharf]

i hate deviantt

[silver wadi]

eternity devi was honestly one of my favorite boss fights

[humble marlin]

it will def be a fun, quick and painless experience

[silver wadi]

so it's even more infuriating for her to now be one of my least favorites