calamity-addon-talk

[tardy cedar]

oh yea that catches people off guard my friend also didn't like him for that

[gloomy wedge]

i would like to say i fought perf in low gravity

[tardy cedar]

Fair enough I suppose

[gloomy wedge]

so my opinion there is a bit skewed

[stiff coral]

Also Halibut cannon seems busted. . .

[fading dove]

its not

its just alright iirc

illusioner's reverie is way stronger

[stiff coral]

Welllll I'm going ranged soooo

[fading dove]

ah

a challenge run

my mistake then

[nimble wing]

This is exactly why I usually tell people to play ranger

[stiff coral]

the fuck you mean a challenge run I just like ranged

[fading dove]

you're intentionally limiting what you can use

[nimble wing]

Ranger is pretty simple and reliable

[stiff coral]

I haven't done anything to boost my mana that much

[fading dove]

its not like its expensive

[stiff coral]

I literally couldn't change my build to mage if I wanted

[fair geode]

whats the generally best mode for endogenesis?

[silver wadi]

exactly, which is why I HATE IT and it must be eradicated

[fair geode]

technically when you dont multiclass its a challange run

which means literally every single terraria playthrough ive done has been a challange run lmao

[silver wadi]

me when I see "ranged damage" in a tooltip anywhere

[nimble wing]

If you’re gonna hate a class for being reliable, why don’t you target Calamity summoner instead?

[stiff coral]

I use summons still

I legit just, like the weapons

[tardy cedar]

I just want homing to be removed from ranger

[fading dove]

rang*r would be good if it was engaging

[nimble wing]

Nuke everything with minimal to no player input

[fair geode]

anyone?

[stiff coral]

People choose to use homing?

[silver wadi]

most of your input comes before the fight happens, which is the part I find interesting about summoner

[tardy cedar]

yea, alot

[gloomy wedge]

i mean for me ranger is super fun

esp in like early-mid hm

hellborn is my favorite weapon in the game

[fading dove]

people who play rang*r usually do it because they dont want to learn interesting weapons

[stiff coral]

I personally find homing kinda boring tbh

[stiff coral]

THANK YOU

[gloomy wedge]

also on homing

i think chlorophyte bullets are just like, kinda bad?

[grim swallow]

so guys
what should I bump boss hp to

1.7 or 1.8

[tardy cedar]

They are

[gloomy wedge]

like theyre good for shotguns but you miss out on a lot of potential damage with basically any other gun

[silver wadi]

oh no, they're not just kinda bad, they're horrible

[stiff coral]

They suck

[grim swallow]

because 1.5 as a summoner doesnt feel like much

[dense eagle]

10

[tardy cedar]

1.8

[stiff coral]

Not even good for shotguns

[silver wadi]

just use nano bullets if you want homing so bad

[gloomy wedge]

idk i find them pretty good for hellborn so theres that

[stiff coral]

They're just slightly better musket balls

[nimble wing]

Is Mohg interesting when you consume 10 buffs before you walk in and skip his phase transition with Comet Azur?

[grim swallow]

they are only good for cal clone in infernum imo

[stiff coral]

Yeah seriously

At that stage of the game you're already fighting in enclosed spaces a lot

[silver wadi]

huh

[gloomy wedge]

speaking of enclosed spaces

man ranger has some cool as hell weapons

like buzzkill, obviously

[stiff coral]

True!

[fast magnet]

bro

[fading dove]

i wonder why ares has 50% tmelee resist

[fast magnet]

i cant find the fucking tinkerer

[stiff coral]

All the flamethrowers

[tardy cedar]

It does??

[fast magnet]

u can barely hit it with tmelee lol

[nimble wing]

I swear true melee can’t have anything in the Fabsolian economy

[fast magnet]

only during 1 attack

[gloomy wedge]

speed blaster, eviscerator, archerfish, p90, titanium railgun, nitro express rifle

[tardy cedar]

basecal people are sobbing

Not only you can't even touch him 98% of the time

But you get slapped with this

awesome

[fading dove]

like i get thanatos having 65% tmelee resist

its a worm

and you have drage

[dense eagle]

💀

[silver wadi]

because if you have even a chance to hit ares with tmelee he'll crumple like paper

[nimble wing]

None of this would be necessary with healthier boss design, just sayin

[dense eagle]

No wonder i do 0dmg

[silver wadi]

healthy boss design? in fabsol's economy?

[fading dove]

basecal exos when you hold the A button

[grim swallow]

2 questions
is there a pair of wings for tiki armor and is it better than spooky

[fading dove]

leaf gives perma dryads blessing

[grim swallow]

okay

[fast magnet]

i found the fucking stylist bro

[fading dove]

they have 20 less frames though

[fast magnet]

before the tinkerer

like what the fuck

[heavy moat]

The machines are not wrathful enough

[grim swallow]

less frames than?

daedalus?

[fading dove]

than spooky

spooky has 180 frames of flight, tiki has 160

[distant wadi]

is ther any way to lower quality for wrath of gods

[fading dove]

not a huge decrease but it can cuck dodges sometimes

[distant wadi]

1st part of avatar of emptiness fight straight up makes me run on like 30 fps

[gloomy wedge]

should i be a little goofy and fight anahita pre-plant

[fading dove]

i do not believe so but i havent played 1.2 so im not super sure

[distant wadi]

i only have frame drops in the beginning

when he takes me to the rift it gets better

[fast magnet]

high fps support helps me play calamity

[grim swallow]

and is tiki armor better than spooky

[distant wadi]

thats a mod?

[fast magnet]

yeah

it like

when u would normally get frame drops it makes the game act like frame skip off

and any other time it makes the game run as if on frame skip on

[silver wadi]

I use it just to force the game to run at 60 TPS even with frame skip off, that way I both see my game and it runs at a semi-playable speed

because otherwise it's noticeably slower, painfully so

[fading dove]

it lets you have permanent dryad's blessing and a bonus 5 defence which is a pretty hefty amount of bulk but spooky has better offence so its up to preference

[fast magnet]

yeah

[distant wadi]

i have my frame skip as subtle

[fast magnet]

tiki is at a lower tier

[distant wadi]

idk if that makes a difference in game

[fast magnet]

hydrothermic is better than both spooky and tiki

[silver wadi]

having frame skip set to anything but on will slow down your game if you aren't at a consistent 60 FPS

if you can hit that, or somewhere close, you should have frame skip on

[distant wadi]

its usually at 60

[silver wadi]

if you're like me though, and 30 FPS is a good day for you, frame skip off is mandatory to see what's even happening

[rich sand]

how do i dodge devour of gods attack

[silver wadi]

then yeah, you should be fine with frame skip on, frame skip off will lead to slowdown

[rich sand]

its so hard bro

[distant wadi]

so should i leave it at subtle or on

cuz sometimes it drops

[fast magnet]

hi terraria yes i find the fucking goblin tinkerer please

[fast magnet]

which one

[silver wadi]

subtle is effectively the same as off

[distant wadi]

just ram through his head

[silver wadi]

so switch it to on

[rich sand]

inf

[distant wadi]

and then fly up

[rich sand]

hes so fast

[gloomy wedge]

ram

[fast magnet]

dash into him

always

[gloomy wedge]

bind your dash to a new key if you havent already

[fast magnet]

except for the last phase

u want to dash away when he charges at u from the portals

[distant wadi]

i never finished infernum lol

[rich sand]

should i use purple haze

[distant wadi]

i was stuck on yharon

[rich sand]

also do rod of discord work?

[fast magnet]

its disabled in the dog fight

[distant wadi]

just use asgardian

[rich sand]

ok bruh

no wonder

[distant wadi]

your only method of dodging is running into him head on

[fast magnet]

^

[rich sand]

do i take dmg if i walk into his body

[distant wadi]

yeah

[fast magnet]

if hes not firing lasers yeah

[distant wadi]

but his head either 1 shot or two shots u

[compact hedge]

whats a good melee weapon for skeletron

[fast magnet]

broken biome blade

[silver wadi]

volcano if you're not afraid of getting close

[empty iris]

tf is this

[fair geode]

funny

[nimble wing]

broken biome blade with some combination of pure, tundra, and evil attunements

[silver wadi]

me when wrath of the gods adds content

[fast magnet]

and goldplume spear

[empty iris]

what

[fading dove]

wotg thing

[distant wadi]

its a calamity add on

[silver wadi]

my beloved

[empty iris]

im js confused pn what it is

[fair geode]

do you not know what mods you have

[empty iris]

yeah i know

[fair geode]

what

[elder nebula]

you can find out what it is by playing the game

[empty iris]

YES I DO

but idk what it does

[fading dove]

maybe theres someone you can talk to about it

[fast magnet]

so goated

[distant wadi]

nothing

iuts just there

[silver wadi]

well, time to find out, yeah?

[distant wadi]

until later n

[nimble wing]

this contends for one of the worst responses to a question i've ever seen

[empty iris]

or you could tell me

[nimble wing]

go talk to solyn

[elder nebula]

why would you intentionally spoil it for yourself

[empty iris]

ty

[elder nebula]

that sounds shitty

[empty iris]

holy fuck was it that hard 💔

[fast magnet]

wotg

i think its the avatar or sum

i havent played it

[grim swallow]

im pre golem tho

[fading dove]

is it that hard to find out what it does ingame </3

[fast magnet]

oh then use tiki

[silver wadi]

a lot of questions about WoTG could be easily answered by google

unfortunately, discord is the new google

[elder nebula]

critical thinking? why do that when someone can tell you

[fast magnet]

and swap to hydrothermic after

[grim swallow]

wdym you literally said that spooky is better

[fading dove]

true

[nimble wing]

wrath of the gods is honestly not all that good at actually making clear what you need to do

[fast magnet]

ithought u were post golem

[nimble wing]

(and google ai is blind)

[fast magnet]

tiki is fine pre golem

[silver wadi]

I didn't even say google ai?

[fast magnet]

thats what i use for the fight

[rich sand]

how long does it take for stuff to despawn

[silver wadi]

though tbf, the people who ask discord would also just go off of google AI

[fading dove]

what stuff

items?

[fast magnet]

js quit out ngl

[nimble wing]

yeah basically this

[grim swallow]

I will have to get the dark harvest either way so I will farm the spooky

[rich sand]

so infinite?

[fading dove]

items have no time limit, they despawn when a 401st item appears

[silver wadi]

critical thinking

[nimble wing]

i'm not calling internet search useless but i've known some people to believe any ai answer

[fading dove]

npcs despawn when you're far enough away unless theyre some bosses or town npcs

[silver wadi]

search engine AIs are a scourge

[fast magnet]

WHERE KS THE GOBLIN TINKERER!!!!!!!

[nimble wing]

they can be useful if you check their sources first, but that applies equally to wikipedia or just browsing normally

[fading dove]

we could power several homes for a week or we could tell you that you need to beat supreme goozma to unlock calamity mode in vanilla terraria

[nimble wing]

[silver wadi]

if there's one thing worse than people trusting google AI, it's people who use chatGPT as a substitute for google

[gloomy wedge]

fun little progression skip for pre-plant anahita

decent fight

leviathan was kind of an asshole tho

[snow sun]

I can soon add a new pair of songs to my collection

[silver wadi]

I love this NPC texture pack

she straight up throwing confetti

[smoky dock]

What in the everloving Fuck

Myrindael is SO fast

I thought it had half the speed, range, cooldown and control LMAO

[elder nebula]

what weapon type is that again

right whip

[smoky dock]

Myrindael is special

It's Argus' melee drop

Its primary fire must be charged by holding the input, making you twirl the trident in your hand. Release to throw.

Its altfire is a fast dash towards your cursor

[grim swallow]

wait its not autofire?

[smoky dock]

No clue

I've never used it

I will never use it

I will perpetually spread misinformation about it

[grim swallow]

what do I even use as a summonjer post plant

[grim swallow]

I think uou actually just shoot it without releasing

[silver wadi]

it's amazing how much of a difference just using the good wood types (tm) does to your house, even without paint

[silver wadi]

so it's like a hardmode old lord greatsword

zoomed in pic of build

[grim swallow]

raven staff?

[silver wadi]

and with the power of brown paint

[silver wadi]

raven staff is good, maybe try the plantera one?

p sure it's a material later on for elemental axe anyways

so you might as well craft it and see how it is

[grim swallow]

its only 1 and takes 3 slots

[silver wadi]

yeah, so mix it with ravens

see if it's worth

[grim swallow]

and I checked its dps is less than 3 golems so its unlikely for it to be better than ravens

[silver wadi]

technically, you could go get terraprisma now

if you're willing to fight empress pre-golem

but, doing so now would basically give you your best summon options until pillars

kaleidoscope is goated

shadewood or ebonwood support beams?

ebonwood on left, shadewood on right

[smoky dock]

Looks good!

[silver wadi]

:(

that's not an answer

but ty

I went with ebonwood, gives some nice contrast to the mahogany

[smoky dock]

OH

i didn’t read

I think ebonwood on the left is better since it seems to mesh better with the stone and other wood

[peak vector]

are the drop chances for infernum brimy baron changed because i've killed him like 25 or 30 times and haven't gotten a 10% drop

[grizzled onyx]

what texture pack makes NPCs look like that?

[grim swallow]

does papyrus scarab and statis blessing stack

[grizzled onyx]

nah you are just getting rawdogged by RNG

Infernum doesnt mess with drop chances

i hear that question a lot:
Are the drop chances for [Insert boss drop here] changed in [Insert Calamity addon here], since I haven't gotten it in [Insert number that is over odds] tries
Drop chances are CHANCES, not guarantees after a certain amount of tries has been reached. You aren't guaranteed to get the Community every 10 tries against Anahita. Thats not how chance works

[fiery mango]

Wow

[grizzled onyx]

gg

[waxen tide]

yes

[silver wadi]

NPC overhaul

[rich sand]

why do i randomly take 1.7k dmg when fighting DoG

[silver wadi]

changes almost all the vanilla NPCs

[waxen tide]

are you on master

[rich sand]

inf

expert mode

[waxen tide]

then its not possible

so idk

[tardy cedar]

check your calamity configs

[rich sand]

ill try to clip it

[rich sand]

wym

[tardy cedar]

or fargos mutant mod configs

if you have that

[rich sand]

i have fargos on

[waxen tide]

do they increase damage taken?

[tardy cedar]

you might be increasing their boss hp or damage dealt

[rich sand]

theres no way

so the whole time

ive been fighting increased dmg/hp?

[tardy cedar]

presumably

idk if you have it on

[rich sand]

its all 1

so prob not

[tardy cedar]

odd

dk then

[silver wadi]

ok so you're running fargo's and infernum

if you're running fargo's souls, that's bad

[fading dove]

dlc dog head doesnt deal that much

[rich sand]

im not

[fading dove]

modlist?

[rich sand]

does fargo make it harder or something

[fading dove]

souls dlc rebalances postml bosses

[rich sand]

i love getting 2 tapped by DoG

[fading dove]

not sure but i know that wombat's is unstable

[tardy cedar]

use cherished sealocket

[fading dove]

1700 damage would be an ohko

[rich sand]

alr

[fading dove]

i'd recommend culling mods and retesting

continue until it stops

readd mods until it starts once more

repeat until you find the exact mod

[tardy cedar]

@humble marlin hi
https://youtu.be/wEJRQ3SlnWw

[humble marlin]

about time

[waxen tide]

tie

[snow sun]

Slime god is down! I still can’t believe i actually liked his fight

[humble marlin]

job

[tardy cedar]

scal left

well technically guards too but um screw that

[waxen tide]

💔

[rich sand]

how good is reaper necklace

[grim swallow]

good for post plant?

[snow sun]

I think it’s pretty good

[humble marlin]

not good at all

its a glorified class emblem

with get this
+7 damage 🤯

[rich sand]

use old reaper or valediction

[smoky dock]

it’s actually +8 flat damage btdubbs

[rich sand]

for DoG inf

[humble marlin]

i will make you into a burger

[humble marlin]

old reaper spam

[smoky dock]

Nuh uh

[humble marlin]

too late the process has already started

[waxen tide]

liazrd burger🤤

[waxen tide]

yes

[snow sun]

I’m still shocked i actually liked Edeath slime god

[waxen tide]

actually no spooky wings sucks

[snow sun]

And terrified by edeath perferators still

[humble marlin]

i haven seen either of those fights

[stiff coral]

What does shroomed mean?

[waxen tide]

odd mushroom effect

[stiff coral]

. . .

[waxen tide]

❤️

[stiff coral]

oh god no-

[tardy cedar]

yea

its not the worst thing tho

for me at least

[humble marlin]

nohitters and drugs go like ham and burger

[snow sun]

Perf is a fucking spider

[waxen tide]

burgerham?

[humble marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-kratos-cat-stupid-tree-gif-14449883692431664425

[snow sun]

Like just straight up, a fucking spider

[humble marlin]

horrifying

[snow sun]

He gets fucking legs.

It’s more terrifying in game than I’m describing tbh

[grim swallow]

why

[waxen tide]

10% minion knoback suck

or whatever was the numbed

[tardy cedar]

what if it was 11%

[waxen tide]

stil ass

[grim swallow]

but either way its 2 bosse sgolem and hydrothermic

[tardy cedar]

worth

[waxen tide]

wdym

[waxen tide]

[grim swallow]

I have 4 bossrs until I get fishron wings

I will survive with the knockvack

Like why is it bad

[waxen tide]

10% minion knockback does nothing on bosses at all

[grim swallow]

Yeah but they also give 5% damage

[waxen tide]

thats almost nothing

[tardy cedar]

worth

[waxen tide]

shut up

Im banning you from my server

[grim swallow]

Yeah but what are other good options

Like good wings

[waxen tide]

we got some
uhhh
aureate booster
mothron wings
festive wings
tattered fairy wings
harpy and jetpack prolly still holds up

[grim swallow]

Ehh I am too lazy to farm any of these

[waxen tide]

fair

[grim swallow]

Ill be fine

Its anahita areus golem and fishron my wings will work

And like they will get melted

I will see if these bosses will die to quickly I bump hp but not damage to times 2

[fading dove]

4 legs
spider
???

[snow sun]

It moved around like a drunk spooder

[grim swallow]

Its much closer to a spider than perfs rn

[rich sand]

how do i get truffles to move in

[fiery mango]

argus' portal kinda is not teleporting me whats going on

[waxen tide]

surface mushroom biome

[stiff coral]

3rd phase exos down to 28

[rich sand]

what does surface mushroom biome means

[stiff coral]

I've settled on Than Twins Ares

[grim swallow]

Open settings

[rich sand]

above mushroom biome?

[waxen tide]

you make a mushroom biome on surface

[stiff coral]

You know those mushroom biomes you find under ground?

It's that, but in the surface or space layer

[rich sand]

can i just put a house in the mushroom hiome

[grim swallow]

If its on the surface then yeah

[waxen tide]

it has to be on surface

[rich sand]

oh

[smoky dock]

make your own glowing mushroom biome

[rich sand]

how do i spread it

[limber sage]

glowing mushroom seed + mud

you can buy glowing mushroom seeds from dryad if she's in a mushroom biome

[stiff coral]

How do you dodge that attack where Ares goes into the background

[fiery mango]

hey prikki do you know why argus' portal isn't actually teleporting me

[patent girder]

might be color graphic settings

or wave quality in graphic settings

[fiery mango]

what on earth

that affects it???

[patent girder]

yeah

make sure wave quality is high

[elder nebula]

you have to stand in it then pause the game

it's stupid

[fiery mango]

weird fucked up mod

thanks but like

what the fuck???

what did javyz do??

[limber sage]

the sweeping laser thing?

[smoky dock]

Remember that computers are conglomerations of metal, glass and silicon cobbled together with nano-scale precision, speaking a language no human is physically capable of understanding via the medium of subatomic particles

Do not expect to fully fathom their actions

[rich sand]

how do i know when its consider a mushroom biome

[limber sage]

the background will change to the mushroom biome

and the music

[grim swallow]

Did draedon steal your discord account or what

[limber sage]

it's a very big, obvious reminder

[rich sand]

steal*

[grim swallow]

Also guys
Does WotM change exos hp?

[grim swallow]

Uhh sure who cares tho

[smoky dock]

What makes you think that

[stiff coral]

No not that

He goes into the background then charges in with swords

[limber sage]

https://youtu.be/dFP_KZGP-qY

[stiff coral]

Im

Not doing WotM

[limber sage]

are you in eternity death?

cuz it's the exact same

[stiff coral]

. . . .

I'm doing Infernum

[limber sage]

ah

I don't recall ares ever doing that in infernum

wait, the weird, sloppy sword chopping thing?

[fading dove]

i think its an ares solo exclusive

[grim swallow]

You ram him when he goes back to the foreground and then dodge the lasers

That attack is like absolute bullshit

Hellish ram timing and basically provs dogma

[stiff coral]

Ah alright

[stiff coral]

Yeah I'm doing Ares solo

[limber sage]

that explains it

[grim swallow]

Ares solo has 1 of 4 attacks after doing some weapon combos

Either:

1. blender beam when he moves (no reverse)
2. static blender bean (reverse)
3. several sword slashes from above from left and right
4. the background dash

[fiery mango]

bro that one dragonfolly attack fucking ANNIHILATES your fps

[plucky lava]

hey guys when i generate a world using infernum the abyss layout is really different, most notable the void chest isnt there (which i know is how its supposed to be for infernum) but the ancient treasure chests are also missing. How do i obtain the items dropped from these chests in infernum? an example would be the archerfish

[mighty fossil]

Not sure if its a mod conflict or not, but for some reason i cant summon Ceaseless void or Signus with the rune of kos, but have no issue with storm weaver any suggestions to fix this?

[fading dove]

pins

[plucky lava]

omg i checked pins but in the wrong chat haha

sorry

thanks!!

[humble marlin]

those w

[rich sand]

inf DoG abouta make me crash the fuck out

mess up 1 dash

its over

[plucky lava]

is infernum finally multiplayer compatible or at least enough to be playable or no

[rich sand]

my poor pinky

spamming shift

[grim swallow]

Somewhat

Better than it was a year ago but still a little bugged

[fading dove]

turning on double tap dash

[silver wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-hug-dog-question-mark-dog-question-mark-gif-14144426802562365039

just bind it to your mouse button 4head

any of them

I do scroll wheel

[silver wadi]

well, any besides m1/m2

[fading dove]

double tap dash <3

[rich sand]

yall double click to ram is crazy

[heavy moat]

Infernum DoG, making players tilted for years on end

[grim swallow]

My dash is m2 for the past 2 years

[slim sphinx]

I never have and never will use a keybind

double tap my beloved

[fading dove]

how do you use alt fires then

[neat wagon]

its just a reaction image, i use scroll wheel indent

[heavy moat]

Funny thing is that the Cal keybind largely exists because Infernum DoG does

[rich sand]

what the fuck

thats even wrose

wose

worse

[neat wagon]

it works

[fading dove]

i should go do my special inf dog elysian aegis damage only nohit

[slim sphinx]

yeah

I agree

[rich sand]

how

lowk

[fading dove]

and i mean elysian aegis only

[rich sand]

defense dont even matter anymore

[fading dove]

no slagsplitter

[rich sand]

for DoG

[slim sphinx]

it just takes a while

[rich sand]

is just dmg

[fading dove]

no ambergris

no omega blue

[grim swallow]

M3

No wait nvm its m4

M3 is my godslayer

And m5 is my other set bonuses I think

[fading dove]

i have many things bound to q because q is nice to have

[fiery mango]

hey so
what melee weapons kill guardians

[fading dove]

"but what if you run both blazing core and ascendant insignia?"
relax, i'll handle it

gilded proboscis

[fiery mango]

cause i do not like this fihgt

[grim swallow]

Wait no what are my mouse binds

[silver wadi]

m5 armor set bonus would actually make sense hold up

[grim swallow]

My m1 is attack m2 is dash
m3 is set bonus/only godslayer
m4 is interact I think

What do I have on m5?

[silver wadi]

too bad I use like, 3 armor sets with keybinds

[grim swallow]

Oh I remembered

My goat blazing core parry

[silver wadi]

I'd use parries if they didn't count as hits for adren, unless they don't and I'm just spreading misinfo

[grim swallow]

I remember my friend binding interact to m1 for deaths ascension

[grim swallow]

I think they do
Tho I remember taking 1 damage from smth on scal fight and only losing like half adrenaline

[silver wadi]

yeah, that's the problem

reducing dmg to 1 means I still take dmg, which means I still lose some adren

[rich sand]

https://tenor.com/view/maniac-laughing-laughing-hysterically-maniac-laugh-gif-20538400

this is how i feel

[grim swallow]

I use it only for like 3 occasions tho

[rich sand]

after getting DOG TO 200K HP

[grim swallow]

Maybe even 2

Polterghast desp and scal desp

[rich sand]

im so tilted rn

[silver wadi]

fargo's parries give you iframes and avoid all dmg within a certain threshold

[rich sand]

there parries in fargo?

[crimson hamlet]

Oh yeah

Fargos

[silver wadi]

yeah

they're really good

[rich sand]

i have fargo mod on

[grim swallow]

Tho I always have it in my vanity slot just for the times when I have DSA

[rich sand]

what is it

[silver wadi]

it's fargo's souls

[rich sand]

bruh

nvm then

[silver wadi]

me when the content mod adds content

[crimson hamlet]

I don’t like Fargos, infernum will always be my go to way to play calamity

[crimson hamlet]

I know one parry is the silver enchantment

[crimson hamlet]

It’s bad content to be fair

[rich sand]

fargo is just there for qol stuff ig

[crimson hamlet]

Fargo’s souls

And the Fargo calamity dlc

[rich sand]

souls too overpowered

[crimson hamlet]

Bullshit

[grim swallow]

I tried playing base eternity

[crimson hamlet]

The enchantments don’t do shit

[grim swallow]

Do not reccomend

[rich sand]

bro a equipment has everything

[crimson hamlet]

The bosses are utter garbage

And it’s just debuff spam on debuff spam

[fading dove]

trust me this is optimal

[fading dove]

me when i lie

[smoky dock]

platinum enchantment is like, doubled loot gain

[fading dove]

enchantments are incredibly strong

[smoky dock]

wood enchant (I hate it so fucking much for being so overpowered)

[grim swallow]

Wait does this thing not work for summoner damage or minion damage

[fading dove]

here's 60% contrib from wiz ashadow

[limber sage]

correct

[smoky dock]

ancient kobold enchant applies Oiled

[grim swallow]

Which is correct

[fading dove]

it doesn't affect rogue weapon use time, or summoner anything

[limber sage]

pumpkin and fossil enchant

[grim swallow]

Fuck

[silver wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-hug-dog-question-mark-dog-question-mark-gif-14144426802562365039

[crimson hamlet]

The problem isn’t necessarily enchantments being bad, it’s that there’s genuinely no enchantment that’s worth giving up an accessory slot

[grim swallow]

I wanted to whip the shit out of DoG

[crimson hamlet]

Fossil fucking sucks unless you’re using wizard with it

[fading dove]

like?

[elder nebula]

low quality bait

[fading dove]

fossil is incredibly strong, up to 50% dr

well functional dr

[silver wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/oopie-goppie-oopie-goopie-oopy-goopy-gif-10836849087126986658

[smoky dock]

I really loved the Bee enchantment

[silver wadi]

bee ench is insanely good

[smoky dock]

Bee enchantment with the Royal Stinker was fun

[crimson hamlet]

Yeah, if I go out of my way to pick up a bunch of tiny ass bones which why the fuck would I when I’ve got a boss dodging rhythm already

[limber sage]

I'm not a fan of fargo souls either personally, but I don't like it because it has too many options to pick from fro choices

for*

[fading dove]

bosses aren't that precise

[silver wadi]

fossil is just a free rez if you swap it on when you're close to dying

[crimson hamlet]

They can easily block you off

[fading dove]

the one that is is mutant

[silver wadi]

I don't like it much outside of that, but it is good for passive healing

[fading dove]

which has mutant presence

[crimson hamlet]

Fossil enchant is genuinely terrible outside of the revive

It looks quite good on paper

I’ll give it that

[silver wadi]

and saying no ench is worth slotting over an acc is insane when silver ench exists

[limber sage]

in fact, fargo accs generally are better than cal accs

because how strong they are

[silver wadi]

which is effectively immortality if you are good at parrying

[crimson hamlet]

Okay I’ll give you that one I liked silver

[silver wadi]

there's also shadow ench, which is free pre-hm shadowflame

[crimson hamlet]

I said it’s good on paper

[crimson hamlet]

No cause you need a knife to craft it right

[fading dove]

its incredibly strong in general

[grim swallow]

I like the fargo enchayns

[rich sand]

yall know any better pet tha nthis

[smoky dock]

Oh yeah Silver was great

[grim swallow]

They are quite interesting

[rich sand]

this fr the best one

[silver wadi]

no, that's ancient shadow

[smoky dock]

alien

[crimson hamlet]

Yeah, if you can pick up all the bones before they despawn

[grim swallow]

What I dont like about fargo is bosses

[silver wadi]

which is the hardmode upgrade to shadow which is even stronger

[rich sand]

its better?

[crimson hamlet]

Agreed heavily

[smoky dock]

brother use it and find out

[rich sand]

what is it called

[crimson hamlet]

As much as I hate enchantments

[smoky dock]

Everything has upsides and downsides

[crimson hamlet]

Fargo’s bosses are 10x worse

[fading dove]

the bosses are the highlight

[rich sand]

what is it called

[smoky dock]

Pretty much nothing ever will be "better" than something else on tier

[rich sand]

what is it called 😭

[smoky dock]

uhhhh, hell if I know. It's obtained during the Martian Invasion. Check the wiki

[fading dove]

the one that drops from the saucer

[crimson hamlet]

The bosses range from easily cheesable to like literally constant debuff spam and undodgeable projectile spam

[fading dove]

cosmic skateboard or smth

[grim swallow]

Like idk I did not enjoy eternity anyone except deviantt (I quitted after WoF cuz of that)

[fading dove]

this is objectively wrong

[silver wadi]

welcome to enchants bad, we have magiluminescence with a free nuke that inflicts pre-hardmode hellfire, we have pre-hm shadowflame orbs, we have pre-hm OILED + 4 frog legs worth of jump speed that applies to wings, and we have 70% crit for not getting hit

[fading dove]

there is always a way to dodge

[crimson hamlet]

It is objectively correct

[rich sand]

dawg you sure this is better?

ice crown is a sec life tho

ill try it

[smoky dock]

Use it and find out

[fading dove]

i wanna know what you think is undodgable

[smoky dock]

aren't there Souls nohit journeys?

[silver wadi]

probably mutant desp lmao

[crimson hamlet]

You’re comparing damage prevention to damage recovery basically

[smoky dock]

Souls nohitting is a thing, right?

[fading dove]

a lot

[crimson hamlet]

Dude me and my friend dropped our eternity run for infernum we barely got a bit into hard mode

It’s just that insufferable of a mod

[rich sand]

how much does it boost tho

[fading dove]

i wanna know because https://youtu.be/vwePh98gutE

[grim swallow]

Hey uhh
As much as I hate fargos this is not true

[silver wadi]

sounds like an issue of skill

[waxen tide]

john fargo

[limber sage]

people who complain about 'undodgable' situations, are unable to admit their own faults

[fading dove]

masoleg isnt fair but it is very much beatable

i'm not saying do masoleg

[crimson hamlet]

Also I define undodgeable as something that I can’t dodge on purpose

[silver wadi]

I have personally found that infernum is more fun on the first run than on repeat playthroughs, whereas fargo's has been more fun because I have so many accessories to mess with

[grim swallow]

For me entirety of pre hm in fargos eternity is boring

[waxen tide]

lmg golem🤤

[crimson hamlet]

A great example is deviant’s heart beams

[silver wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-hug-dog-question-mark-dog-question-mark-gif-14144426802562365039

[limber sage]

then you should say 'undodgeable for me'

[fading dove]

love rays are easy to dodge what

[limber sage]

not flat out undodgeable

[crimson hamlet]

Because half the things are off screen I can never tell where they’re going to be

It’s just pick a position and pray

[silver wadi]

you should not be that far from devi during that attack

specifically for that reason

[crimson hamlet]

I’m not

[silver wadi]

being too far in a lot of boss fights will get you killed like that

[grim swallow]

For me I didnt notice an actual undodgable attack tho in fargos

[fading dove]

nothing is undodgable except mechdusa

that's it

[limber sage]

mechdusa ♥

[grim swallow]

I didnt like deviantts attack where there is a circle and she shoots projectiles that linger and spin

[crimson hamlet]

Deviant just kinda sucks especially because of one single debuff

[fading dove]

rune wizard is pretty easy if you ride the seal

lovestruck is meaningless

just dont attack

[silver wadi]

the only "undodgeable" attack from devi is her death beam IF you fail to dodge her stoned debuff

[crimson hamlet]

The fact that you know exactly what debuff im talking about shows that you know it’s insufferable too lmfao

[silver wadi]

if you don't look away in time, then yeah it's basically a death sentence

[fading dove]

no its that people complain about it

people who dont know how to handle simple changes

[crimson hamlet]

Also if it’s constantly being applied then I can’t really attack can I

[grim swallow]

What does lovestruck do

[silver wadi]

terraria players when new and unfamiliar gameplay mechanic:

[crimson hamlet]

Makes it so your attacks heal the enemy

[grim swallow]

Oh

[fading dove]

deal no damage to the target that inflicted it, spawns hearts when you attack that slightly heal

[silver wadi]

it's not, if you have lovestruck up constantly it's because you can't dodge

[crimson hamlet]

Motherfucker

[grim swallow]

Wasnt there an accessory that gives immunity to it?

I forgor

[crimson hamlet]

it last for like 10 seconds

[fading dove]

yeah

nymph's perfume

a preboss accessory

[silver wadi]

[grim swallow]

Yeah thats why I didnt notice that

[crimson hamlet]

I shouldn’t be basically forced to use a specific accessory for a boss

[fading dove]

that also acts as a heart statue

[fading dove]

you dont

[neat wagon]

you play infernum right?

[crimson hamlet]

Yes and infernum doesn’t do that

[smoky dock]

I didn't know Nymph's Perfume was a thing my first time

[grim swallow]

If so you are forced to have a ram for dog

And for old duke

And for yharon

[crimson hamlet]

Dawg there’s literally an achievement for beating Devourer without a ram dash

[neat wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-detector-gif-9388384639890532829

[crimson hamlet]

Stfu

[silver wadi]

[fading dove]

here's my maso devi loadout

[smoky dock]

You can definitely beat DoG without a dash

[crimson hamlet]

I had that pre typed cause I knew someone would pull that

[smoky dock]

It's just way harder

[grim swallow]

And any exo mech combination

[neat wagon]

then you can do deviant without the immunity

[smoky dock]

You can yes

[crimson hamlet]

It’s not at all fun though

[silver wadi]

me when the 10 second long debuff (I got hit twice by the 4 second debuff)

[smoky dock]

I didn't know Nymph's Perfume was a thing my first time

[grim swallow]

If you get an achievment for killing smth in a way its bot the easier way

[limber sage]

foot in mouth moment

[rich sand]

not rlly good for DoG since hes faster than you overall

[crimson hamlet]

Oh it’s definitely not easier but it’s not impossible

[grim swallow]

Idk I got told to use it by the eternity guider

[silver wadi]

I've never fought devi with lovestruck immunity

[fading dove]

eternity devi is actually free

[silver wadi]

genuinely

[rich sand]

all you do for DoG is just fly up fall down ram ram ram ram repeat

[smoky dock]

I don't like guides

[silver wadi]

maso devi is actually difficult

[crimson hamlet]

Also another thing about eternity

[neat wagon]

then you don't need the immunity item, you just have a skill issue

[grim swallow]

Yeah fair ig

[crimson hamlet]

Yeah we were doing maso revengeance

[fading dove]

like the only reason i almost lost to her recently is because i was really tired

oh maso

[smoky dock]

https://youtu.be/0UAY_duVm00

[fading dove]

shouldve said so

[grim swallow]

There is a difference between not liking a mod/a bossfight and speaking bs so the fight seems awful

[silver wadi]

last time you said eternity

[fading dove]

maso is balanced around you know what you're doing

[silver wadi]

lmao

[fiery mango]

gilded proboscis...??

[silver wadi]

if my first playthrough was maso I'd crash out too

[smoky dock]

also this

[crimson hamlet]

It didn’t seem that different

[fiery mango]

buddy

this is profaned guardians

[smoky dock]

<33333

[fiery mango]

fym guilded probiscis

[limber sage]

what the heck is this

[silver wadi]

but I'd also crash out if my first cal experience was infernum

[crimson hamlet]

Bruh

[smoky dock]

https://youtu.be/hBq7ucoy0v4

[crimson hamlet]

Mine was lol

[rich sand]

how does this work

teacj me

[crimson hamlet]

Infernum is easy as base cal

It’s just different

[waxen tide]

[limber sage]

infernum is arguably easier than base cal

[crimson hamlet]

And it’s not mindless projectile spam like eternity

Or debuff spam

[grim swallow]

If you play it 73 times then sure

[limber sage]

also

[crimson hamlet]

I beat my first Infernum run relatively easily (we don’t talk about the dog)

[silver wadi]

please fight mutant

[waxen tide]

literally basecal destroyer

[limber sage]

gfb cal is peak

all I'mma say

[crimson hamlet]

I really don’t want to

[fading dove]

hold right on inf exos

[grim swallow]

Idk my first calamity playthrough was master death cuz I don't think infernum even existed at that point

[fading dove]

like just hold right

[fiery mango]

did you just fucking recommend this to a causal player woke lesbian jesus

[grim swallow]

I want to do gfb just for ND dialogues

[smoky dock]

gilded proboscis my beloved

[limber sage]

gfb ND = murica

[fading dove]

i said its strong

[crimson hamlet]

Fargo’s is just a bad mod in general I don’t want to give it any more playtime than I have already

[crimson hamlet]

Me when everyone recommends omega blue to casual players for infernum dog

[opal swan]

With Wrath of The Machines is it normal for all the exo mechs to spawn right off the bat

[crimson hamlet]

It’s also broken as fuck especially multiplayer

[fading dove]

its got a much more satisfying gameplay loop than other terraria mods

its a collectathon

[silver wadi]

you mean like not being able to rez chain bosses?

[grim swallow]

I only want to play fargos with calamity tbh

[fiery mango]

you should maybe take into account options other than the absolute meta

cause

[crimson hamlet]

Fargo’s uh, does something to worm bosses that makes them perfectly functional single player but in multiplayer they literally break things

[fiery mango]

a casual player is not doing that

[silver wadi]

that's every worm boss in multiplayer

[fading dove]

theyre fine in multiplayer

[crimson hamlet]

They cause so much server lag that they desync the game by like 3 minutes

[crimson hamlet]

Can people stop scapegoating worm bosses for fucks sake? I don’t like them either but they function in vanilla stop fucking acting like it’s the existence of worm bosses that makes them break, it is specifically Fargo’s. Infernum was fine, basecal was fine, but any Fargo’s boss with worms just broke things

Like genuinely I get it worm bosses suck

But they do normally function properly

They don’t break the game

[crimson hamlet]

Outside of a couple 1 in a million bugs but that could be said for any boss

[fading dove]

what was your modlist

[silver wadi]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/992122099843989625/1381967235207135322/Alarming-Cat.gif

[waxen tide]

basecal multiplayer worm bosses are complete ass

[crimson hamlet]

The big ones were cal, fargo’s,Fargo’s cal dlc, fargo’s mutant, whatever adds eternity

[fading dove]

just those mods?

[limber sage]

then why does base cal DoG completely break in MP?

[fading dove]

no recipe browser or magic storage?

[limber sage]

sometimes he has no body, only head

[crimson hamlet]

Now it’s my turn to say skill issue because me and my friend did perfectly fine with thise

[crimson hamlet]

We have those

[fading dove]

modlist usually means everything currently enabled

[silver wadi]

skill issue to a bug is crazy

[limber sage]

oh yes, 'skill issue' is totally an issue with my skill when a mod doesn't work properly

[fading dove]

because many mods entirely break the game

like boss checklist

[silver wadi]

[crimson hamlet]

I was just giving the major content mods

[crimson hamlet]

Boss checklist doesn’t break anything lmfao

[limber sage]

the little mods can break more things you expect

yes, it does

[fading dove]

it corrupts files and resets booleans

[neat wagon]

damn...didn't know that

[crimson hamlet]

Boss checklist has problems with subworlds and that’s it

[smoky dock]

it's inexplicable and seemingly random

[night fractal]

It's not

[crimson hamlet]

I’ve never had boss checklist problems

[night fractal]

I see problems without subworlds

[smoky dock]

Nobody really knows what it can do, why it does what it does, or what can make it cause issues

[night fractal]

okay, they're not common

But they can happen

[crimson hamlet]

Is my game just fucking enchanted

[smoky dock]

That's normal, plenty of people have no issues whatsoever

[crimson hamlet]

Okay good

[smoky dock]

Boss Checklist is just very wishy-washy

[night fractal]

I've never had a boss checklist bug I can remember either but I don't use it anymore just to be safe

[fading dove]

ive got a guaranteed file corruption with boss checklist

[night fractal]

I'd rather just not risk boss checklist

[smoky dock]

I haven't had issues in the first... several months or so using it

But then when I rejoined a world after a few months, of leaving it, all my boss death states have been flipped

[rich sand]

HOLY FUCK

FINALLY

[fading dove]

boss checklist lite was created specifically because of how buggy boss checklist is

[rich sand]

I ONLY GOT HIT TWIVCE

[crimson hamlet]

It’s not that buggy

[crimson hamlet]

Welcome to dog

[rich sand]

FUCK YOU INF DOG

i was losing my sanit ybro

[crimson hamlet]

Infernum dog sucks and is only glazed to absolute hell because basecal dog is somehow worse

Which is understandable

[smoky dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1104916162741018695/1298259415010381937/dogpet.gif

[fading dove]

"its not that buggy" it has a guaranteed file corruption

[smoky dock]

I love him he is my friend

[crimson hamlet]

But a glass cannon boss doesn’t work conceptually

[coarse ibex]

infernum sprime
melee
what to use? armor, weapon, and all accessories pls

[crimson hamlet]

Well I haven’t had that happen like at all

[smoky dock]

I think it definitely works in theory

[crimson hamlet]

In practice it doesn’t

[smoky dock]

But it's just much, much harder to make one that's fun and enjoyable

Not impossible, though

I fight DoG for funsies sometimes

[crimson hamlet]

Lizard this is your territory

[smoky dock]

Oh no it isn't

False melee is specifically forbidden to me

[waxen tide]

first mech?

[smoky dock]

I don't know the first thing about it

[crimson hamlet]

I fight him once and buy treasure bags (yes I use alchemist, no I don’t buy the stupidly broken potions)

[coarse ibex]

third

[fading dove]

also bro's just asking for an entire loadout to be spoon fed to them 😭

[smoky dock]

https://youtu.be/iy9CTd077JA Check this shit and tell me that it isn't the coolest shit ever

[crimson hamlet]

Why do the experimenting myself when can ask on discord

[coarse ibex]

Oops

[fading dove]

here's a step by step guide on what to do

step 1:

[smoky dock]

Because learned helplessness is a thing that exists

[crimson hamlet]

What’s wrong with this fight

What did he do wrong

[waxen tide]

submarine shocker

[crimson hamlet]

Oh wait that’s you

[smoky dock]

look at the weapon, accessories/armor loadout, damage distribution, and arena

[hollow dove]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Guide:Class_setups/Hardmode#Post-Mechanical_Boss_2

[limber sage]

except that helplessness can become overbearing (gfb tmelee lunatic cultist/astrum deus)

[crimson hamlet]

What about it

[smoky dock]

The weapon is a Sluggish Handheld Tank with Party Bullets

[crimson hamlet]

I’ve never used handheld tank

[fading dove]

i don't think that a ranged wepaon with rogue armour is very correct

[grizzled onyx]

he doesnt fire it

[smoky dock]

Neither have I

[waxen tide]

(its a rocket launcher)

[smoky dock]

It's a rocket launcher with bullets

[grizzled onyx]

he uses it for max rogue damage

[crimson hamlet]

Oh I didn’t notice the rogue armor

[smoky dock]

I never fire it

[grizzled onyx]

for toxic heart

[smoky dock]

Because I cannot fire it

[crimson hamlet]

I didn’t get to the part where it showed the accessory loadout

Eh I’ve seen worse

The worst loadout for Devourer is the loadout I specifically am currently using

True story

[smoky dock]

You have Elysian Aegis, right?

[crimson hamlet]

No im not fighting him rn

I just mean like

Whatever loadout im using whenever i fight dog is the worst loadout

[smoky dock]

Ah makes sense

[crimson hamlet]

Because nothing works against this guy except luck

Either lots of luck

Or even more skill

[fading dove]

its funny because inf dog is the most consistent boss in the mod

[smoky dock]

^

[crimson hamlet]

Not the final phase

The death fire bullet spread is random

And that

[fair geode]

its not

yharon time

[crimson hamlet]

Ends my fucking run

[fading dove]

its always aligned with him

[silver wadi]

crazy that we went from glazing infernum and trashing fargo's to "the best boss in infernum is actually luck"

[rich sand]

https://medal.tv/games/terraria/clips/kzX9IizYycd_0OmEz?invite=cr-MSxTWDUsMTY1NTIxOTA3

you mean this bullshit?

[crimson hamlet]

It is the worst boss by so far

[smoky dock]

I love inf DoG but calling it the best boss in the mod is a bit of a stretch

[crimson hamlet]

The best infernum boss is pbg or deus

[rich sand]

look near the end

[smoky dock]

Very uncommon opinion

[crimson hamlet]

Infernum deus is what worm bosses SHOULD be

[silver wadi]

imo, it's best, overall, I'd say it's probably in the top 5

[fading dove]

drill mount 😭

[coarse ibex]

sprime infernum melee

[heavy moat]

Meh
It's largely subjective at the end of the day

[rich sand]

lmao

[waxen tide]

love my offscreen shit

[limber sage]

swap counter scarf to ornate shield for the love of god

[smoky dock]

Definitely

[fading dove]

direct downgrade to witch's broom btw

[smoky dock]

DoG is very polarizing

[silver wadi]

get flame wings, maybe get power glove, other than that it looks fine

[waxen tide]

basecal destroyer is the best boss in calamity

true and based

[silver wadi]

maybe ornate shield instead of scarf?

unless you're dedicated tmelee

even then

[smoky dock]

No, tmelee doesn't use scarf

[silver wadi]

zamn

[smoky dock]

Especially on Prime where you have no safe opportunity to hit during phases two and three

[crimson hamlet]

Also infernum is just a better version of Fargo’s in terms of bosses at least

[rich sand]

ive heard a lot of people quit on yharon

[crimson hamlet]

Ill die on that hill

[smoky dock]

(they're the ones that never used Sponge)

[silver wadi]

you can say that, I'd rather not get into that again

[crimson hamlet]

True, sorry

[crimson hamlet]

Sponge is so overturned it’s not even funny

[smoky dock]

It is!

[waxen tide]

I never played fargos but I idk I played too much infernum so I would probably find it better

[rich sand]

sponge feels so squishy

[smoky dock]

It's supposed to be

[rich sand]

its a weird accessory

[crimson hamlet]

Sponge should have a shadow spec upgrade that combines it with absorber

[waxen tide]

no

[crimson hamlet]

Absorber needs an endgame variant

[smoky dock]

Sponge is NOT supposed to be "I have this shield which can eat 3-4 hits for me"

[crimson hamlet]

Actually

Scratch that

Pls don’t

[heavy moat]

This will be horrifying for the WotG bosses balancing!

[waxen tide]

sponge is already too overpowered

[smoky dock]

Sponge is supposed to be "Every hit I take is reduced by over 200 damage"

[crimson hamlet]

Hi Lucille

[rich sand]

the peace and quiet after ive killed DoG is so nice

[smoky dock]

Think of Sponge as more like... whenever you get hit, you instantly heal 200 HP.

[rich sand]

i can relax

[crimson hamlet]

To be fair, won’t wotg have to be rebalanced when shadow spec gets reworked?

[silver wadi]

new nameless crashout?

[smoky dock]

I don't think so

[waxen tide]

most of shadowspec weapons wont get reworked

[rich sand]

bro i still have tl fight wrath of the gods

bro

[fiery mango]

so i'm trying to learn that quick-kill on the guardian defender

[opal swan]

Im in infernum if that effects it?

[smoky dock]

WotG was balanced around the worst of shadowspec-tier, so even if shadowspec in general gets toned down, then it'll still get weaker

[rich sand]

nameless deity\

[fiery mango]

i can't quite pull it off