calamity-addon-talk

[real pendant]

that fight is so sick

[digital dust]

There isn't a 'best pet', of course later obtained ones tend to be stronger than earlier ones, I can see Turtle Pet being better Defensive Pet than some Hardmode Pets despite being obtainable Pre-Hm

Mod intents to not make some Pets 'best' but rather give each one a purpose in certain scenarios

[limber sage]

but ML pet is broken

[pure light]

slime god

that shit is so much EASIER than deerclops

[digital dust]

Ngl thinking of slapping a penalty on all classes spesifically for ML Pet because you're right its a strong stat stick

[limber sage]

if it wasn't for the post ml stuff in calamity, it'd be fine to be a huge stat stick

[digital dust]

yeah exactly

normally of course it was made with vanilla in mind

and makes tons of sense

because 'final pet'

[limber sage]

yeh

[digital dust]

-15% ms for Melee
-25% projectile speed for Ranged
-10 defense for Magic
-60 max health for Summon
something for rogue idk probably related to stealth

I think stat sticks with downsides are ok so this will make it a bit more ok I'd say

[spice pike]

Hotbar.

[maiden void]

Is there anyway i can increase infernum's performance (fps)? I don't have a very good pc

[wheat radish]

all the calamity bosses are massively easier than the vanilla ones

i one att slime god after i summoned him out of rage from dying to skeletron for the 15th time

and that was with my friend afk increasing his hp

[pure light]

thats insane 😭

[wheat radish]

and i STILL can't beat skeletron

[safe yew]

just passed the test and holy shit that was an amazing boss

[wheat radish]

but it says sg unlocks abyss treasure drops from crates

idk why but i might try a lionfish on him next

[safe yew]

soooo cool

[maiden void]

Is there anyway i can increase infernum's performance (fps)? I don't have a very good pc

[signal mural]

Use high fps support

And install calamity overhaul maybe

[dense eagle]

lights and shadows can help

a little bit

[dense eagle]

dont

it will make game much worse

[grim falcon]

[spice pike]

https://tenor.com/view/do-gif-26136854

[raven vapor]

melee and summoner go hand in hand and you can't change my mind about it

[maiden void]

How?

[dense eagle]

a little bit but not much

other than that, iirc there is a option in infernum config

[past bolt]

who are dogma god and war god?

are they the gods that yharim killed to become corruption and crimson?

[acoustic spindle]

I'm laughing so hard rn

Dogma is my teachers nickname

[nimble oracle]

probably a better question for #lore-discussion

[past bolt]

oh my

I thought I have clicked that channel

my bad

sorry

thick fingers😭

[raven vapor]

your teacher's nickname is dogma?

what

[rich sand]

do i spam shattered sun or use the stealth for infernum polterghast

how do i beat infernum polterghast as a rogue 😭

[raven vapor]

spam shattered sun

[solar badger]

why does masochist mode skeletron keep despawning chat

or is it buggy in multiplayer

[rich sand]

nvm i beeat him

that mf is the most annoying

the area is so bad bro

i thought there was a sec phase for a min

[empty flame]

central dogma

[fair geode]

solyn you good?

thats not ice caverns

ok so uh

she despawned

not only did she not mark my map she also did this

[half lagoon]

[forest star]

how do I do the AoE phase where he dashes from the background

like do I look at it? Shoot at it? what..

[grizzled onyx]

simple

there are flashing crystals surrounding you

[forest star]

ja

[grizzled onyx]

look for the ones that flash

and go the opposite way

the glowing crystals tell you where the Avatar will dash at

[forest star]

ooo

[grizzled onyx]

so go the OPPOSITE direction of the crystal

[forest star]

AoE took most of my screen so I thought it was unavoidable

[grizzled onyx]

it is also a memory game.

[grizzled onyx]

that is more visual

[forest star]

[grizzled onyx]

the hitbox, while decently big, is honestly a bit forgiving

[forest star]

noo my only weakenss..

[grizzled onyx]

what difficulty?

[forest star]

yeah I get troubles with hitboxes ALWAYS

[forest star]

death mode

so its 6 flashes

[grizzled onyx]

Expert?

[forest star]

master

[grizzled onyx]

ah yep

Here is how I keep track of it:
I look at the crystal and think in my head the opposite direction of it. So when a right crystal flashes I think "Left", and vice versa.

helps me almost always avoid the attack

[forest star]

ty tyyy!!

also I'm honestly surprised the bossfight is not laggy, lag has been a major problem for me especially fighting the exo mechs and DoG

[grizzled onyx]

thats because the Avatar forcefully unloads everything

it really helps with lag

i think the fight runs really smoothly on almost everything

[forest star]

oooo

[grizzled onyx]

cant say the same with Nameless though

when he explodes the sun my pc goes by by

[forest star]

oh yeah I noticed that it despaned during a multiplayer fight, and we ended up deep within the unexplored cavern area

[grizzled onyx]

dont

play

WotG

in

[forest star]

oh...

[grizzled onyx]

multiplayer

[forest star]

even with the fix mod?

[grizzled onyx]

it just doesnt work in multiplayer.
like at all

[grizzled onyx]

i think that mod may help

but it still has massive issues in multiplayerr

[forest star]

sometimes it works, sometimes doesnt

in Mar's beeg laser attack Solyn doesnt even deploy her shield and we ended up dying 💀

it worked once so thats how we progressed

[forest star]

it got like updates twice today, so I have high hopes or its development

[empty flame]

tmelee endless suffering

[little steppe]

nights edge clears

and dark lace for mouth phase imo

[empty flame]

i swear to god on everything the sausage maker actually goes crazy for the eyes cos it gets them all like at the same time

idk abt nights edge

[little steppe]

nights edge is like sausage maker but better

shit is SS tier somehow

[empty flame]

fuck this fight is so jank tho

[smoky dock]

It’s a good idea to experiment with it

I constantly spam “experiment and find out bro just experiment bro” but that’s especially true for tmelee where creative solutions are more important

[empty flame]

i have 24 attempts bro i think its clear i would have tried the nights edge by now

idk

[little steppe]

wait no I'm wrong

dark lance is SS

[empty flame]

i just feel like the first phase isnt very hard and what messes me up is like if i get two eyes down and then have to do the other two rather than all four which happens with nights edge

[little steppe]

nights edge is uuuh idk is I had to guess A

[smoky dock]

No way dark lance is SS

[empty flame]

im also running stress pills rn so i get one adren but it isnt doing shit

[smoky dock]

But eeeeegh

[little steppe]

I am 90% sure it is

no wrong reply

dammit

[smoky dock]

If you ever need a bit of a hint, you can watch a true melee nohit

Two people now are working on true melee nohit journeys. Both are pre-ML

[little steppe]

yeah dark lance and sunfury are the only vanilla melee SS weapons

[smoky dock]

https://youtu.be/hYcpJSNDX0E

[little steppe]

the rest vanilla SS are whips

and I was right about nights edge A

[empty flame]

what like snapthorn

also

does anyone use rocket boots

[little steppe]

no beacuse everyone just gets lightning

[smoky dock]

Rocket boomts are pretty moot considering there’s no opportunity cost to spectre

[little steppe]

or terraspark

[nimble oracle]

i use it to craft lightning boots

😁

[smoky dock]

👍

[empty flame]

right but i mean like

the flying part

across all the boots

does anyone use that shit

[smoky dock]

It’s pretty janky so I don’t use it for that reason

[little steppe]

for WoF you dont really use it beacuse BoHB will have you covered

or if youre a fledging enjoyer wings just disable rocket boots

[empty flame]

i fuckn did it

[smoky dock]

🎉

[empty flame]

dark lance is very good for the end part

im kinda embarresed the infamously easy infernum boss took me so long

just checking which of my pylons would have been infected

[fiery mango]

I gotta give props to Infernum for somehow making WoF actually fun

[empty flame]

its fun but realistically its abysmally easy (except tmelee everythign is hard ong)

like even tmelee skeletron took me almost three times the attempts

[little steppe]

"everything Tmelee is hard"

humble destroyer sitting in the corner

[empty flame]

true

and scourge

but avalanche is getting nerfed surely

[little steppe]

uuh not sure

[empty flame]

fuck where is the bladetounge even from

is it fishing in crimson or blood moon

[snow sun]

Ya I love that

[little steppe]

crimson

[empty flame]

palladium>crimson right

damn i havent played melee in so lon

[outer path]

do you guys think infernum DoG is a good boss?

[grim swallow]

good for cryogen and mechs

[little steppe]

yes

and mollusk>palladium fr

[empty flame]

wait

i meant cobalt but yk

[empty flame]

nah ur weird

[grim swallow]

oh wait I forgot the wings

[little steppe]

wtf

mollusk is the goat I have to inform you

[empty flame]

and fuck infernum shell guy (i forgot bros name)

giant clam

[grim swallow]

yeah fuck infernum giant clam

[little steppe]

farm clams for eternity

[empty flame]

nor

im gonna fish

[outer path]

which infernum bosses do you guys dislike?
personally for me it's slime god, crabulon, destroyer and the one everyone hates

[fiery mango]

poltergjast

[empty flame]

i HATE CRAB idrc about the other two

and giant clam

and skeleton

[outer path]

valid

[empty flame]

i do not find skeleton fun

[outer path]

infernum skeletron is a great boss

but each to their own

[little steppe]

dragonfolly

[grim swallow]

fuck old duke and brimstone elemental (too boring)

[little steppe]

its just uninteresting to me

[outer path]

bro's about to die tomorrow

[empty flame]

nobody ever liked old duke tho

[outer path]

I meant skeletron

[lunar halo]

hi

[empty flame]

yeah i know you meant skeletron

[fair geode]

oh hi

[empty flame]

idk i just find skeletron is just a little too

how you say

deerclops lowkey one of the better infernum bosses

at least of like reworked vanilla ones

[outer path]

inf deerclops is cool

[snow sun]

Oh no his ass

[mystic lion]

guys

on a scale

of

yahoo to grrr

how hard is infernum ceasless void

[lunar halo]

id say about

ahhh

or just

hm.

[mystic lion]

alrighty then

[outer path]

I always config the camera in the fight to not be centered on void

[lunar halo]

i love the way it looks centered

i keep it

[mystic lion]

any rogue weapon recommendations for

mirror man

[lunar halo]

i forgor what i used against him 🥀

i think it had somethng to do with one of the sentinels probably signus

may be crafted by the materials he dropped or the fast throwing knife stuff im not sure tho

[fair geode]

huh

[slim sphinx]

the fog is coming

[fair geode]

im just gonna cheat my way to how i was in my first world

cause i think the issue was i created it before downloading wotg

[mystic lion]

what issue

[fair geode]

this for example

i also had to spawn her in myself

[mystic lion]

does ceaseless void have a desperation phase

[fair geode]

yes

[heady valley]

hii what class best for infernum iyo

[mystic lion]

yay

it only took 9 attempts

because i was using a worse weapon before

[fair geode]

ok so

whats this do

[smoky dock]

summoner, generally

Ideally you don’t stick to a class, though

[snow sun]

Summons the thing eating the sun when you have all 3

*4

[fair geode]

ah\

whats it spreading

[snow sun]

Grass you need to put the other seeds on. Also you need a flat open space

[fair geode]

ah

i mean i did this

cause i thought itd look cool

[mystic lion]

is the shattered sun a viable rogue weapon for inf polterghast

[snow sun]

It does look neat. The frostblessed seedling is the catalyst tho

[mystic lion]

dude im literally doing like fuck all to polterghast

oh wait you also get attempts on ceaseless void for just going near its spawn?

so that means i prob did ceaseless in like 7 or 8 attempts

[fair geode]

i think this is good for cal clone

[fallow wagon]

damn

avatar was cool af

but damn

[snow sun]

That genuinely made me almost cry

And I barely cry

[fair geode]

damn it

[snow sun]

What’s the mod that does that

[fair geode]

?

[mystic lion]

chat what rogue weapon do i use for polterghast

cuz rn it feels like im throwing teddy bears at him

[snow sun]

The green text after fighting bosses. I wanna know so i can swap boss checklist for lite

[fair geode]

nycros

[mystic lion]

whats the difference between boss checklist and boss checklist lite

[snow sun]

Thank u

[snow sun]

Less invasive and in your face

[mystic lion]

o

[snow sun]

I don’t no hit but I do like the idea of having stats

[smoky dock]

Boss Checklist Lite is a list of all mobs classified as "bosses" and their associated death states, of which it displays whether they are dead or alive (the former case represented with a 'check')

Boss Checklist is the above but with like, a zillion other features

[snow sun]

Most of which have a tendency to break shit

[smoky dock]

Most of which have a tendency to break shit 👍

[snow sun]

Glad we agree. I haven’t had problems with it, but I’d rather nip it in the bud now

[mystic lion]

can sum1 help me with this

cuz it takes me like 3 and a half minutes

to get polterghast just below half hp

[smoky dock]

What're you using right now

[fair geode]

i could skip cal clone and do plant with this right

[devout hatch]

you guys been experiencing issues loading wotg

[snow sun]

Why is my tmod stuck on adding the vacuum bags content

[humble marlin]

my calamaris are lamenting

[fading dove]

vacuum bags sucks and has a bunch of mods that it literally just cant be loaded with iirc

[snow sun]

Oh fuck.

[mystic lion]

shattered sun

[snow sun]

Does ore bag still work

[smoky dock]

consider trying profaned partisan

[mystic lion]

okily dokily

[snow sun]

I only downloaded vacuum bags because my inventory often gets clogged

[mystic lion]

whusa vacuum bag

[little steppe]

will you post this every time someone sends solyn's letter

[smoky dock]

yes

[little steppe]

keep doing it it's really funny

[smoky dock]

it's good you like it because i would not stop if you didn't

[fair geode]

might just be bad

or brimseekers arent the greatest on calclone

[humble marlin]

prikki
can you turn me into a burger emoji pls

[smoky dock]

I don't know what you're asking

You want your nickname changed?

[mystic lion]

human meat burger

[smoky dock]

oh yeah i can do that

[mystic lion]

why is polterghast asgore

[humble marlin]

yeah
to a 🍔

[little steppe]

burger reverie

[mystic lion]

FUCK

WAIT

MY DUOLINGO STREAK

[humble marlin]

ive had like 7 burgers these past 3 days

[mystic lion]

I HAVE 11 MINUTES LEFT

[smoky dock]

👍 enjoj

[humble marlin]

im on a roll

[little steppe]

midlingo

[humble marlin]

yk what this is funnier than just the emoji

[mystic lion]

😡

[fair geode]

damn it man

[humble marlin]

owch

[fair geode]

i might just like

do plant

[mystic lion]

i mean only 7 attempts

[fair geode]

then cal clone

[mystic lion]

thats like

5x better than me

already

cal clone beat my ASS

[fair geode]

i have a pretty low attempt number as summoner usually

[smoky dock]

calclone is ideally done pre-plantera

[fair geode]

i know

but i suck

so

[smoky dock]

post-plantera equipment will so thouroughly stomp calclone that it won't be a fight

[mystic lion]

idk how good i did on summoner

i forgot

[fair geode]

ig i do need entropy's vigil

for plant

[night fractal]

not really

[fair geode]

but idk what to use for cal clone cause brim seekers arent working

[night fractal]

entropy's vigil is meh

[fair geode]

i mean

brimflame?

[smoky dock]

Then switch up your armor and accessory choices

[fair geode]

it did alright when i used it last time

so

[night fractal]

brimflame armor is not summoner

[night fractal]

yeah it's fine

but I think brimseeker is better

[fair geode]

no i mean the summons do the effect iirc

[night fractal]

(on plant)

oh

Yes

[smoky dock]

brimstone flames

[night fractal]

Brimseeker and Entropy's Vigil both inflict brimstone flames

[fair geode]

oh

[mystic lion]

wait

for inf polterghast

[snow sun]

Oh fucks sake

[mystic lion]

is it better to use rogue spam or stealth?

[night fractal]

Is inf clone too fast for Daedalus Golem

[fair geode]

id imagine so

she moves around a lot

[night fractal]

My guess would be Profaned Partisan stealth but I don't actually know

[cedar laurel]

this one kinda meh but cool

[snow sun]

Blood moon on eternity death has rose

[mystic lion]

alr well ill try stealth

[night fractal]

They home in though, so they might still work

[fair geode]

hmm

ill try

[smoky dock]

oh you're not using stealth? well there's your issue

[fair geode]

ig theres also the fact that this is my arena lol

but i mean it works for basically everything so im not gonna improve what works

[mystic lion]

hmmmmmmm

what should i replce vampiric talisman with

glove of precision

moonstone crown

or spectral veil

or

electricians glove

[night fractal]

Precision

Ideally run like

Dark God Sheath, Glove of Precision, Blunder Booster

(blunder booster dash is stupidly strong atm)

[mystic lion]

so no mirror?

like this?

[smoky dock]

blunder booster's dash I don't think works properly on stealth

[snow sun]

IM GETTING JUMPED BY EYEBALLS

[smoky dock]

You want to be using your stealth to make stealth strikes, not for dumping into the dash

[night fractal]

true

Doesn't it give dmg and regen

it does

[cedar laurel]

don't fish up wandering eyes fish

[night fractal]

okay

Abyssal Mirror might be better than blunder booster my bad

[solar badger]

why cant i get hardmode ores past cobalt and palladium to spawn? ive only killed wall of flesh and queen slime so far, no mech bosses but the wiki says u dont need to kill bosses for it. ive broken multiple altars, the message saying i have been blessed doesnt show but then i cant find any cobalt+ ores underground

[cedar laurel]

read pwnhammer tooltip

[ionic rivet]

Why did I lose all the items from the Magic storage mod and Boss killing progress after defeating a vassal in the desert?...

[fading dove]

boss checklist

[solar badger]

did that change due to calamity or terraria feature? also, if i break with a normal hammer does it just generate the ores

[night fractal]

calamity

[cedar laurel]

calami

[night fractal]

It doesn't ever spawn them besides killing mechs

Mythril is post-one mech

[snow sun]

Is squeaky toy a rare drop or something

[night fractal]

Adamantite is post two mechs

[ionic rivet]

Help pls

[night fractal]

Hallowed is post three mechs

[night fractal]

Sounds like boss checklist moment

[solar badger]

bro...

that is so annoying, genuinely

[night fractal]

Boss checklist is a notoriously buggy mod

[solar badger]

i really need mythril and orichalcum to even get strong enough to beat the mech bosses :/

[night fractal]

It means we can actually make all the tiers of gear useful

Also the first and second mech are weaker to compensate

[ionic rivet]

What should I do now? I've lost all my things.

[snow sun]

That’s why I’ve nipped it in the bud and swapped to lite and another one

[night fractal]

Load a backup

[snow sun]

Break storage heart and replace maybe

[ionic rivet]

how to do it?

[night fractal]

There should be a message somewhere explaining it, idr how to do it on tModLoader bc I've never done it

[solar badger]

wtf. why is my magic storage suddenly empty? i have the storage units saying that theres stuff but clicking the storage heart just shows nothing

[night fractal]

Just search the discord for it

[night fractal]

Try replacing the storage heaet

[night fractal]

Also try replacing the storage heart

[solar badger]

fixde ty

[fair geode]

try breaking a storage unit

that usually fixes it

[fading dove]

go into the backups folder, copy the files of the world youre reloading, and paste them into the main folder

[humble marlin]

hamburgee

[fading dove]

oh nvm theyre zipped

so just extract them into the main folder

[fair geode]

idk why i have the issue as well

i use checklist lite

[fading dove]

magic storage just got updated

thats why

[fair geode]

ah

[fading dove]

theyre still fixing a lot of stuff

[night fractal]

too bad it will still suck...

[fading dove]

like the game shitting itself when loaded with gensokyo

[fair geode]

magic storage is good wdym

[night fractal]

magic storage sucks

[fair geode]

why?

[fading dove]

what if magic storage had an energy system and you needed to craft and power a generator for your magic storage to function

[night fractal]

removes almost all progression and creativity out of designing storage systems, rooms, and crafting area

[fading dove]

and it was obscenely expensive

[night fractal]

You just get too much for too little that obsoletes a lot

I want to make a magic storage type mod but with actual progression

and that allows creative design

[fair geode]

i mean being able to search for specific items is really cool

instead of checking every chest one by one

[fading dove]

having to pick out the tungsten bar in one of my 24 chests that all have different bars in them

[fair geode]

magic storage is nice for me because i cannot be bothered to sort my chests

:)

[snow sun]

FUCKING SHIT

HE DESPAWNED AGAIN

[cedar laurel]

is this good in an actual fight

[fair geode]

that sounds ass

[wide junco]

with like featherfall probably

or rot but thats hardmode

[snow sun]

I hate king slime

[cedar laurel]

what's rot

[fading dove]

rusted oxygen tank

🤤

[fair geode]

ok yeah golems kinda break on cal clone

[zealous latch]

i need magic storage because i am completely unable to organize anything

if i try to make an organized storage system it will simply fall apart

[snow sun]

Real

[mystic lion]

how strong are the blunder booster lightning bolts?

[waxen tide]

pretty quite strong

can be used as an only weapon if you use old fashioned

[noble summit]

Is infernum exo and sup calamitas super hard? I took a break after dog and yharon

[mystic lion]

YESSIR

I BEAT INF POLTERGHAST

finally

only took 16 attempts

[raven vapor]

how do i make this less like a prison

[tender ocean]

To summon noxus, you need to craft the genesis right? And the recipe requires shadowspec bars right?

[raven vapor]

noxus no longer exists??

[tender ocean]

Wait it got removed?

Interesting

[raven vapor]

now there is this entire questline with solyn and allat

[tender ocean]

So before he was fightable

Is it like he spawns randomly in your world near you and you just attack him?

Oh it was that?!

Damn looks like I didn't get to fight him before he was removed

[hot fractal]

what is the easiest combination for the exo mechs (infernum)

[raven vapor]

ares and the twins

[hot fractal]

okay

[snow sun]

Why does eye keep trying to fight me

[fair geode]

fuck

[snow sun]

IVE GOT A FORMULA DOWN

I JUST NEED TO STOP FUCKING DYING

[humble marlin]

borgor

[fair geode]

ok yeah im just fucking bad why isnt this working

[snow sun]

He still didn’t drop the slasher

[mystic lion]

bruh i used my ram dash and DoG still killed me

dude does he still do contact damage even if you ram him?

cuz my dashs aint doin nun

[smoky dock]

rams are janky

I heard it has issues if you attempt to ram on the frame before or same frame as taking contact damage

Additionally, every ram in general is deceptively short so don't try to ram through too much

[smoky dock]

Your defensive core is poor

[waxen tide]

is there a chance that you have two dashes equiped

[smoky dock]

Drop pygmy necklace for ursa sergeant, fairy boots, or giant tortoise shell

Additionally, drop Jelly-Charged Battery for Nuclear Fuel Rod (the on-hit damage effects of the battery are overwritten by the fuel rod)

[mystic lion]

no i just have elysian aegis

[waxen tide]

👍

[mystic lion]

is jaws of oblivion good for DoG (stealth)

[fair geode]

gotta kill as

then

but i think ursa should be enough

[next knot]

If im gonna do my first full calamity ranger playthrough should i use calamity ranger expansion or not?

[smoky dock]

yes

Test it for yourself and see

[waxen tide]

not recommended tbh

kinda unbalanced

[next knot]

Ok

I’ve calamity ranger is bad

[smoky dock]

It’s not

[next knot]

I meant I’ve heard

[next knot]

Ok

[smoky dock]

It will always be pretty good
it is the most pretty good class
It will probably always be pretty good
the best it can possibly be is pretty good
the worst it can possibly be is pretty good

[next knot]

I think the main complaint I heard is there’s not enough homing and too many snipers and shotguns

[smoky dock]

Sounds like skill issue

There are plenty of homing, non-sniper and non-shotgun options

[next knot]

Ok

Also is it worth using calamity vanities

[smoky dock]

It’s personal preference

[heavy moat]

Cells

[next knot]

So it doesn’t really change the gameplay much is really is just vanity?

[waxen tide]

vanity

[smoky dock]

Yep, just vanity

[smoky dock]

Ooh that’s super cool! I like it!

[fair geode]

damn

he lags my game for some reason

[remote marten]

fuck i killed the other two and died to exo twins...

[smoky dock]

9:20? What’s got your time so slow?

[grim marlin]

uhh how do i fix this

[remote marten]

trying tmelee

[waxen tide]

10k dps

[smoky dock]

Are you in basecal or infernum

[remote marten]

basecal

[fair geode]

break a piece of it

and place it back

[waxen tide]

understandable

[grim marlin]

thanks

[spark narwhal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225030931008847874/1294688030019551283/attachment-136.gif

[smoky dock]

yokes

[spark narwhal]

hello cat chat

goodbye cat chat

[smoky dock]

goodbye TheSabre

[remote marten]

yea im struggling quite a bit lol
i mean i started off not being able to kill any mechs and about 40 or so attempts on ares and thanatos i was able to get them down
surely its just a matter of time right

[fair geode]

finally

[smoky dock]

You can find a solution if you get creative

[waxen tide]

a matter of 8 minutes exotwins

[remote marten]

true...

idk if i can live for 8 minutes on them lol

[snow sun]

It’s a C Average student

[smoky dock]

yeah basically

[soft ferry]

Why the hell is an oversized clam like 10 times harder than EoC?? (infernum)

[smoky dock]

I have no clue why but that’s a very common sentiment

I totally agree

[soft ferry]

I can't even get the clam to under 50% health before being turned into dust

[smoky dock]

But I really don’t know why so many people find giant clam hard

[snow sun]

Because he’s a massive dickhead?

[smoky dock]

I started just cheesing it in hardmode lol

[smoky dock]

true…

[waxen tide]

I think the biggest issue with clam is how small some places in sunken sea are

an actual arena would prolly make the fight piss easy

[smoky dock]

I think that’s part of it, yeah

I always try to fight atop that giant geode in the very middle, or if minecart tracks generated, atop those

[snow sun]

Eternity death is kicking my ass but I’m persevering.

[fair geode]

gg

[snow sun]

Nice

[humble marlin]

i need a burger

[nimble wing]

I suspect they either use no water gear or flipper potion (both are bad)

It’s pretty much only workable with victide alone

[neat wagon]

Defense

[smoky dock]

i’m they

the pearl swirls just short circuit my brain like a small black pixel to an image identification software

[solar badger]

why cant i get any werewolves to spawn? ive been waiting ages but not a single one has spawned

[fading dove]

i usually use trident for mobility

[smoky dock]

Are other hardmode guys spawning? Like posessed armor?

[fading dove]

well theyve killed 138 armours

ive got no idea

[smoky dock]

im tupid

Yeah the most I can offer is to double check the spawn conditions for werewolves

[fading dove]

full moon night during hardmode, cal wiki doesn't mention changing it

[smoky dock]

Yeah I checked too, wtf

Maybe upgrade it to a Blood Moon

But almost 150 armors and no werewolf?

Might be Cosmolight jank…

[dense eagle]

i think its bugged

[sly zealot]

I'm doing multiplayer wotg+infernum rn and I know it's bugged and probably unfixable for multiplayer, but we can't advance Solyn's quests past the very first dialogue

Should we just spawn in the wotg bosses with other mods/"cheats"? Or is there another way to go about it

[fair geode]

prob ready for golem right

[snow sun]

Fucking shit

[humble marlin]

theres is no way to go about it
you wont be able to fight AoE and Nameless even if you use debug items

[snow sun]

Reaver shark pickaxe power is nerfed

[sly zealot]

So it's just completely cooked then?

[raven vapor]

what endgame weapons can be considered s tier and abovr

[sly zealot]

Is there no mod that just spawns them in

[humble marlin]

for the time being
WoTG multiplayer will be fixed soon™

[sly zealot]

sadge

[raven vapor]

are you playing fargo soul dlc?

then yea it does that

[snow sun]

Yeah

Yeah

[sly zealot]

Could I make a world on singleplayer, advance the questline all the way and then host it for multiplayer when I can spawn it in mby?

[raven vapor]

no more tier skips

we need MORE tier skips

[smoky dock]

in souls?

or in the next clamity update?

[snow sun]

Ya

[smoky dock]

yep!

suffer

[raven vapor]

my favourite is skipping directly to lunatic cultist from pre boss

[snow sun]

I don’t play that shit

[smoky dock]

I don’t either

nobody does

it’s not public

[raven vapor]

(I've never done that)

[snow sun]

I already am lmao

[raven vapor]

next cal update doesn't re nerf reaver

yet

[snow sun]

I managed to get the ancient cobalt enchant at least

So ds shouldn’t be…AS bad.

[fair geode]

FUCK

[raven vapor]

what difficulty

[humble marlin]

the nature of the fight wont make it possible with multiple ppl, esp AoE

[sly zealot]

Ah I see

that sucks

[snow sun]

Who

[sly zealot]

Guess the sun and moon are gonna be encased in black goo forever then

[raven vapor]

@fair geode (sorry for ping)

[snow sun]

👍

[fair geode]

infernum

[raven vapor]

golem infernum lowkey sucks

pro tip : beat ravager first and get hydrothermic that way

ravager from my experience is easier

and you can use the blood pact until scal and draedon

[fair geode]

god damn it

[little steppe]

horrible tip

[fair geode]

finally

[raven vapor]

good tip

[little steppe]

blood pact is a filler until ambrosial and absorber

[raven vapor]

but what about the extra health and extra healing

[little steppe]

LAME!

other defensive stats are better

[raven vapor]

nuh uh /s

[tender ocean]

Ok question about infernum and wotg. Does the order of the bosses go like this?

First aoe

Second nameless deity

And finally boss rush which can be activated using the photshopped terminus.

[snow sun]

Oh god I’m boutta get jumped by sand elemental

WHY ARE THERE SQUIRRELS

[little steppe]

no boss rush is unnecesary but if you really want to fit it in you can do anywhen

[tender ocean]

I really want to do infernum boss rush.

So im planning on doing it after nameless

[little steppe]

okay, as I said, theres not really any progression regarding BR

its just after Scal and exos

[tender ocean]

Oh no i dont want wotg to be included in it. No

I'm fine with it just stopping at scal.

Wotg just has so much content to it that I dont think placing it in boss rush will be a good idea.

[little steppe]

what

when did I say that

wotg literally discards br

[tender ocean]

Yes ik but there is a terminus that allows you to do it still

A new terminus

[little steppe]

wotg does nothing to boss rush

nor does anything to do with it

br is just there

[keen bloom]

why did half my magic storage stuff randomly vanish

but only calamity items

[little steppe]

thats a storage problem

[tender ocean]

But yeah. Ill just defeat nameless deity and then do boss rush.

[little steppe]

a very weird one I never heard before

[keen bloom]

not even all my calamity items just a lot of them its weird

[tender ocean]

I saw that magic storage got an upgrade.

That could be why

[silver wadi]

I can't wait for mage to have early game weapons that aren't thunder zapper

[tender ocean]

Will boss rush drop the rock still even with wotg enabled? Or no

[silver wadi]

nope

[tender ocean]

Rip

That means I have to disable wotg in order to get the rock.

[silver wadi]

it drops from ND

[little steppe]

drops from nd

[tender ocean]

Oh wow!

[soft ferry]

when in Infernum is the first part where I'll be beaten into a fine pulp a lot of times? i would like to know

[tender ocean]

So thats why you said boss rush is just there.

Nd is in a sense a kind of replacement for boss rush.

Man these wotg stuff is confusing the fuck outta me.

[native cosmos]

yo gang, how playable is community remix in modpack?

[zinc spire]

best way to play both calamity and fargo together like i wanna play masochist and infernum but ing slime bugs so how can i keep it hard and working

so like infernum and eternity or just inf?

[fair geode]

hmmm

spooky or hydrothermic for summoner

[keen bloom]

what melee weapon for infernum exo

[little steppe]

dragon rage for thana, dragon pow for ares, zenith for hunters

if you want to use only 1 weapon, zenith

[smoky dock]

I religiously use dragon rage

[vagrant prairie]

guys wtf i do

anyone else use magic storage?

cuz i just came back to an old world

and it just says 0/0 in my magic storage

[silver wadi]

break and replace the heart

[keen bloom]

what order is best

[smoky dock]

Personal preference

[silver wadi]

imo thana/twins was easiest

since you basically just get to dragon rage spam both of them

[smoky dock]

I religiously use Thanatos + Ares because its attacks are most familiar to me

Experiment with different ones and see what you like most. Then, latch onto one and stick to it.

[humble marlin]

twins + thana 🔥

[vagrant prairie]

thanks

[bold rose]

I GOT ASTRAGELDON 7 FUCKING PERCENT I WAS SO CLOSE

[humble marlin]

you got this 🔥🔥🔥

[fair geode]

lmao idiot

[snow sun]

I think I’m slightly over prepared for eye

[smoky dock]

I think I can improve my Cryogen tmelee nohit to be even faster

I wonder if I can get under mnl pre-mechs 😳

[grim swallow]

Oh god why is dreadnautilus so cracked

Like yeah I am doing master infernum but 260 damage is still not okay

[snow sun]

Eternity death eoc dead (technically) first try

[smoky dock]

Presumably it’s one of the creatures which is buffed more than expected

Either that or skill issue

[grim swallow]

Yeah they should have at least gave him some new drops in infernum

[smoky dock]

They did!

The trophy

[grim swallow]

Like idk at least make him drop the other blood moon weapons

Like how did they turn dreadnautilus into an actual threat while brimstone elemental is just a giant punching bag

[smoky dock]

Make it drop Haemorrhaxe and Chum Caster and then pretend they’re brand new Infernum items

95% of Infernum players have never heard of either so the façade works

[grim swallow]

And the drippler thing from the eel

[limber sage]

was about to say

[smoky dock]

Drippler Crippler

Presumably

false ass melee…

[limber sage]

drippler crippler, the stupidly strong flail

[grim swallow]

I know about both from vanilla because of me and my friend farming for the nautilus himself

Because in vanilla the bats are busted as fuck

[smoky dock]

I also need to see what Calamity does to buff vanilla tools… Haemorrhaxe really needs a tiny bump to size

[grim swallow]

Tho if infernum actually added new weapons for each class from nautilus that would have been fire

But knowing the devs he would drop 3 magic weapons and a rogue shit

[humble marlin]

nothing*

there is no infernum devs

[grim swallow]

I mean if infernum was still being updated

[humble marlin]

id figure they at least would indeed add one for each class knowing how argus went

[grim swallow]

Yeah but then there is Jared

[fair geode]

im honestly at a loss on what to put instead of ursa

[smoky dock]

why do you wanna replace ursa sergeant?

nothing’s stopping you from keeping it around

[fair geode]

i suppose

[humble marlin]

if anything get rid of that hallowed rune

for living dew or sum

[fair geode]

amrbosial?

[humble marlin]

oh you are post cultist?

absorber

[fair geode]

got it

[grim swallow]

Also guys
Will my loadoutbas a summoner be fully identical for all mechs and bosses like AS

[humble marlin]

thats just 2 magic weapon and tbh mage did need some better options at that stage

every other class has em

[humble marlin]

uh prob

maybe until you get like

daedelus

[grim swallow]

Oh yeah

[humble marlin]

or hallowed

[grim swallow]

Thp i am giving myself an extra challenge

[humble marlin]

i would go with dae since the summon it gives is fire

[dusky ingot]

Clamitas

[grim swallow]

All mechs brim elemental snd AS have to be killed with pre mech equipment

[smoky dock]

depends on if you change it or not

Experiment And Find Out™️

[smoky dock]

It’s how I discovered one of my favorite accessories ever that I still use today post-Cultist

[grim swallow]

My loadout is
Spider armor
Amalgamated brain
The voltaic jelly and wulfrum battery thing
Terra boots
Fairy wings
Deep diver
Summoner emblem
Pigmy necklace
Do I have anything to change rn

[humble marlin]

it WOULD be really FUNNY if you changed summoner emblem for slagsplitter pauldron

[tardy cedar]

warding compass

[humble marlin]

hai corrupt

[tardy cedar]

hi reverie

[grim swallow]

What does that do

[humble marlin]

extra explosion with your dash

funny damahe

[grim swallow]

And I'm glass cannoning it which is expected

Funny for worm

[slate gull]

just wanted to say smth rq, i think i just saw the void thing in the sky after defeating WoF (wrath of the gods i think did that, was kinda scary)

[grim swallow]

Its the rift you saw in the telescope

[grim swallow]

First I do not want to come close to aureus

[smoky dock]

Point of that screenshot is

[grim swallow]

Second of all I am not skilled enough to survive ram spamming aureus

[smoky dock]

85% damage contribution

In a 84 second long nohit

[grim swallow]

Yeah the max potential is insane

But it requires a fuck ton of actual skill

[smoky dock]

Proof?

[grim swallow]

Because master infernum summoner is quite unforgiving

[smoky dock]

Nothing's stopping you from tossing it on and playing around it for a bit

Then if you think that slot would be useful for something else, then switch

[grim swallow]

I mean I do see a funny for worm

Because I shall fuck desyroyer and AS as its physically possible

I have cool whip I have frost dudes and I will have an insane ram

I will bring all suffering EoW brought to me upon the dedtroyer

[grim swallow]

And also for me personally ramming is considered a damage dealing shit only after providence

[smoky dock]

well then that's something you gotta rethink

solar flare is strong

pauldron is strong

potentially ambergris idk i'm not a rocket scientist

[grim swallow]

Does ambergis give a dash or what

[grim swallow]

I have never played calamity melee

[limber sage]

ambergris essentially buffs dashes by making them go further and have a shorter cooldown

this may sound odd, but the best shield to pair it with is the deep diver

[grim swallow]

Oh but again I dont like sacrificing slots for stuff like that

[grim swallow]

Lemme guess it makes it always underwater

[limber sage]

no

deep diver already has a low cooldown but a short dash

so it's essentially a spammable dash

[smoky dock]

deep diver behaves differently compared to all other dashes

[grim swallow]

Deep diver is goated

I can't imagine destroyer infernun without it

And twins

And prime

[humble marlin]

today we build a rocket

[keen bloom]

what ranged weapon for exo

[waxen tide]

halibut cannon with bloodflare bullets for thanatos
ace high with slugs for exotwins
halibut cannon or kingsbane for ares
or drataliornus for exotwins and ares but you cant get hit

[mental shuttle]

here

Wrong chat

[fair geode]

owie

[silver wadi]

yk a playthrough is good when you're 8 hours in and just killed scourge

about half of my playtime has been making house

[keen bloom]

what melee for primal worm then

[waxen tide]

melee?

[keen bloom]

yea

[waxen tide]

I thought you said ranged

but whatever
ataraxia or burning sky

[grim swallow]

Idk I used chicken cannon for worm

[keen bloom]

yes ranged for exo

its for my friend

im melee

[waxen tide]

halibut cannon with bloodflare kills thana in like 5 seconds

[silver wadi]

just use prismatic breaker

both of you

[waxen tide]

🔥

[silver wadi]

[waxen tide]

prismatic breaker is like decent for thanatos iirc

[tropic jetty]

is something up with infernum or

[waxen tide]

reset tmod and verify integrity of files probs

[snow sun]

Whaaaaat the fuck. Why is cursed coffin’s theme start cowboy like

[limber sage]

would you rather it be camel by camel

[hardy shuttle]

is this intentional after beating nameless deity?

my game just froze

[fair geode]

hi

my instincts are telling me deus but idk

deus is an insanely fun fight and i need to do empress

[tropic jetty]

i do feel as if i recognize you...

[fair geode]

pmoon hub

spruina

[tropic jetty]

oh

yo wasup

[fair geode]

doing wotg for the first time lol

[tropic jetty]

good luck

[fading dove]

0/10 post

[limber sage]

what, it's a genuinely good song tho

then again, I listen to Doodles by Rose Betts when I fight bosses so

[soft ferry]

scab ripper or imp staff for infernum perforators?

[waxen tide]

scab rippers

[fair geode]

scab rippers and vile feeders are so incredibly good

its insane

[grim swallow]

Wait cant you somehow get corruption for like vile feeders

[fair geode]

theyre both the same

[grim swallow]

I haven't tried the crimson counterpart but corruption one is busted

Oh

[soft ferry]

Maybe but I mauled perforators with scab rippers

[fair geode]

but you need to beat perfs for scab rippers no

[grim swallow]

Also guys
Any tips for inf cryogen that dude always takes me like 8+ attempts and im in master

[soft ferry]

no

[fair geode]

ah

[grim swallow]

Don't think so
Scab rippers are from brains corpse

[fair geode]

right

[smoky dock]

8 attempts is not many

You can do it, I'm sure! Buuuut Cryogen is always easier the less you move horizontally

[grim swallow]

I mean yeah but im a glass cannon summoner

Bro is gonna two shot me with a fart

[grim swallow]

Oh okay

[smoky dock]

Nothing's stopping you from switching it up

[fast torrent]

[smoky dock]

[grim swallow]

My personality is stopping me
I will sacrifice my soul just to get 15% more damage

[smoky dock]

oh sorry uhh

inflation hit the damage economy too

in order to boost your final damage output by 15% you need about 30% of your class appropriate damage

[grim swallow]

What

[smoky dock]

Damage% in this game is additive with itself, so it has diminishing returns

[grim swallow]

Oh yeah

I dont care tho

I see extra damage I take extra damage

[grim swallow]

I think there are lategame exceptions like demonshade and DSA?

[silver wadi]

bringing up demonshade is crazy

[smoky dock]

Damage is a really kinda... nebulous and complicated topic

But demonshade and DSA are both yes and no

[silver wadi]

but yeah dimensional soul artifact is insane, if you can use it right

[grim swallow]

I will have to use it anyway

[smoky dock]

They're multiplicitive with other sources of damage
They're additive with themselves and each other

[grim swallow]

Okay

So if I get like an emblem and dsa I will get 15%×1.2? Extra damage

[silver wadi]

if it's just the emblem and DSA, yeah that'd be how it works, your weapon gets the 15% dmg then your final dmg is multiplied by 1.2

before all the other shit like enemy defense, crit, dr

[smoky dock]

Assuming you have no other sources of multiplicative or additive damage and a 0% critical hit rate, yes

In a vacuum...

[grim swallow]

But if I get demonshade with dsa I will get 0.2+0.5 extra damage?

[smoky dock]

Damage is really complicated. Defensive items can boost your damage output

[silver wadi]

if you get demonshade your damage output literally does not matter

[smoky dock]

Yes, if I understand what you're asking

[grim swallow]

Or however much it adds

[grim swallow]

Okay got it

[smoky dock]

The math behind damage is basically impossible to summarize in theory, so that's why testing uses killtimes

[fair geode]

FUCK

[silver wadi]

chat how do I overcome a crippling mage addiction

[smoky dock]

Nohit

[fair geode]

summoner

[grim swallow]

Wait how do people get those like stats after fight

[smoky dock]

Using only mage equipment

External mod

[silver wadi]

nycro's nohit efficiency

[grim swallow]

Oh got it

[fair geode]

guessing xeno staff is the best option for empress?

[smoky dock]

Among the best options, yeah

[grim swallow]

I tried nohitting and succeeded once

It was infernum DoG on ranger

[smoky dock]

Seriously, it's best to use a few different items and see how well you do with them and what their ups and downs are

[silver wadi]

hey chat quick question, does scourge just have a resistance to DoT in general, on top of type resists?

[rough loom]

is cataylyst mod compatible with every calamity addon

[smoky dock]

✨ It's complicated ✨

[grim swallow]

Mostly

[fair geode]

HUH

[grim swallow]

Its compatible with the main ones like WotG HotOG and infernum

[fair geode]

never seen that attack before

[silver wadi]

ok so, what you're saying is basically yes

but there's a bunch of complicated reasoning behind it

[grim swallow]

Im stupid but whats DoT

[smoky dock]

All worm-type bosses suffer debuffs as normal under all circumstances except if they are vulnerable to that debuff
In that case, the vulnerability factor is reduced from 2x to 1.5x

[rough loom]

and fargo souls?

i do masochist, infernum, death

[grim swallow]

Idk about that

Its probably compatible with fargos

[rough loom]

what does catalyst even do

[silver wadi]

which then also applies to the debuffs like slimed and oiled, correct?

[smoky dock]

Presumably yes

[grim swallow]

Some whips and flamethrowers and a superboss

[silver wadi]

honestly I just gotta stop yapping start burning EoC alive

[smoky dock]

It explains it in the mod description

[smoky dock]

Fargo's Souls and Infernum are not compatible

[rough loom]

ohhh ok

[rough loom]

no?

[smoky dock]

They aren't no

[grim swallow]

The superboss is PRE moonlord dont forget about him

[rough loom]

why is it not i mean like can i add infernum but not use it?

[silver wadi]

need to find a way to make DoT ticks actually display correct dmg values

[grim swallow]

He is unaccessible after ml

[silver wadi]

mods that change boss AI are not compatible with one another. one has to override the other

[grim swallow]

Whats DoT im a dumbass

[silver wadi]

damage over time

[grim swallow]

Oh

[smoky dock]

Damage over Time

[rough loom]

devourer of terraria

nvm

[grim swallow]

I mean I think they just want the infernum generation and items

[silver wadi]

as of now, an enemy suffers all DoTs applied to them, but only displays the damage ticks of the strongest DoT

[rough loom]

so no infernum mod

[silver wadi]

I mean, you can use infernum if you don't enable the difficulty

[grim swallow]

For the QoL stuff

[silver wadi]

but there's not really a point then

[rough loom]

bro i had 90 hours on a world and my friend joined and bombed it

[rough loom]

noo just to have more mods in the world

[grim swallow]

Friend behaviour

[silver wadi]

fargo's already does everything infernum does for QoL and more

if you say wayfinder I will crash out

[rough loom]

bro everything gone

whATS a wayfinder

[grim swallow]

Even the craftable anahita summon?

[smoky dock]

That causes even more problems

[silver wadi]

yeah