calamity-addon-talk

[waxen tide]

nuh uh

shroom is the cure

shroom is the truth

[tardy cedar]

I'll do shroom Fargo's when eye gets better

[waxen tide]

triple shroom lmg when

triple shroom dlc bossrush when

[tardy cedar]

bro wants me to go blind

[waxen tide]

obama shroom nilk td-d boss rush when

on master

no accessories

[tardy cedar]

no

[waxen tide]

ob

[tardy cedar]

Do you think judges would allow no wasd gameplay but with roh spam

[waxen tide]

no

just use hook

noob

hook and 30 dash weapons

photo gauntlet for movement

[tardy cedar]

stygian shield gameplay

[tardy cedar]

there's so much shit I wanna do but this stupid ass journey holding me back

[fair geode]

any other good tm wepaons for dog other than collider?

[tardy cedar]

Lion heart

[elder nebula]

galileo gladius

[night fractal]

Lion Heart is the best by a significant margin iirc

[raven vapor]

any good rogue ones

i thing goulish gouger might be good

[tardy cedar]

for what

[fading dove]

im starting to remember why i never left yharon's little ring of fire

[night fractal]

fargo arena but it's a pentagon

[fair geode]

god damn it

[raven vapor]

dog

or old du*e

[fading dove]

what if yharon's ring of fire was a seal so he dragged you along whenever he dashed and it hurt a lot and he became unbeatable so now infernum is impossible

[raven vapor]

magic storage broke my world i think

[fading dove]

how fast does the cosmic viper shoot

[fair geode]

damn

[waxen tide]

excuses

[fair geode]

i guess ill do polter post dog lol

[raven vapor]

like wtf is going on here

[fading dove]

why are there two other tabs

maybe the mod adding those is the problem

[little steppe]

there are like 3 new tabs

[raven vapor]

3 new what??

[fading dove]

oh yeah didnt notice the one between tiles and materials

i just saw the two tacked onto the end

[little steppe]

they look cursed to me

more than 1 item in a tab image is weird

[fading dove]

also vampiric talisman post calclone 😭

[raven vapor]

whats a tab ?

[jade bone]

Anyone know a good melee weapon for inf dog

[raven vapor]

also all the animations work fine

[fading dove]

lion heart

its best in class

[fair geode]

wing and boot slot?

[fading dove]

well im pretty sure its also stronger than the best fake melee too

[jade bone]

Where do i get it

[fading dove]

sold by cyborg

[fair geode]

after polter cyborg

[raven vapor]

cyborg iirc

[little steppe]

fucker got sent like 5 mins late

[raven vapor]

what's wrong with that?

[fading dove]

theres not meant to be that many

[little steppe]

there are like 4 new tabs

[jade bone]

So do i go full warding or menacing

[little steppe]

pretty sure fishing tab wasnt there too

[fading dove]

whatever mod adds those is likely causing the problems with your magic storage

[fading dove]

whats your crit chance

[raven vapor]

here is the error log

[jade bone]

How do i see

[little steppe]

whats serous common lib

[fading dove]

by looking at your weapon

[dark lake]

hover the waepon you're using

[fading dove]

library for magic storage

[little steppe]

oh

[jade bone]

60 crit chance

[dark lake]

i think lucky is overall better than menacing since u get so much damage bonuses from armor and accessories but warding is still most likely better

[fading dove]

lucky for damage, warding for defence

dog is the one boss where glass tends to pull ahead a bit

[dark lake]

oh the dawggg

yeah

[jade bone]

Because funny one shot

[raven vapor]

well time to restart

if all my progress reset i am starting a new run

[dark lake]

worst fucking boss in infernum i fucking hated this shit

god smite this fuckass down

[fading dove]

inf golem is tanky but thats about it

[smoky dock]

DO NOT be mean to Golem

[fading dove]

he doesnt pose a threat

[dark lake]

whatchu gonna do, huh?

fucking lihzahrds

[smoky dock]

https://tenor.com/view/resident_evil_4-resident-evil4-re4-strangle-strangling-gif-27515159

[fading dove]

yharim? is that you?

[dark lake]

the ONLY attack that actually consistently killed me was the blue one

[smoky dock]

What am I gonna do? What am I gonna do???

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1091210082605350995/1252062606626128074/caption.gif?width=716&height=659

[dark lake]

:0

i take it back

do NOT do that to me

[raven vapor]

okay none of the progress reset

so i guess do not have that many magic storage units

[jade bone]

is this setup ready for dog to bully me

[dark lake]

i can understand his hate bro they built annoying dogshit

[fair geode]

DAMN IT

[fading dove]

nah you'll crush him

go get em tiger

[raven vapor]

good luck mate 🫡

[fair geode]

but ok yeah this is doable with collider easy

just need to get good

and not fuck up last phase

[fading dove]

3:11

chen

[dark lake]

das pretty good

wait that's a fail

[fading dove]

i got a better time with just elysian aegis

[fair geode]

if collider didnt try to go for the head and tail only

well im fucking bad

[fading dove]

and i beat him

[fair geode]

and im not using an arena

[fading dove]

try coiling him

[dark lake]

uhhhhh i don't know what the kill time for melee is but considering the lion and holy collider i think it should be 2:30 to 3 flat

[fair geode]

also im used to horizontals

no wait

[dark lake]

not lion what was it called

[fair geode]

up and down

[fading dove]

lion heart

[dark lake]

yes

[fair geode]

im skipping polter for now fuck that fight

[fading dove]

lion heart deals significantly more damage at the cost of slightly shorter range

[fair geode]

its dogshit on anything else its gonna be even worse on tm

[fading dove]

scal isnt very friendly to tmelee

[fair geode]

i can tell

oh

eh ill manage

probably

[dark lake]

scal will be so fun with true melee what are you talking about >:)

[fading dove]

the most tmelee friendly part of scal is sepulcher because it gets slaughtered pretty fast

also do you accept true melee like weapons

[dark lake]

i'd assume the brothers aswell?

[fading dove]

or strictly those that say true melee

because bloodthirsty cosmic discharge is the strongest pre shadowspec weapon iirc

[jade bone]

BRUH

I NO HIT UNTIL LAST PHASE BUT GOT ONE SHOT

[fair geode]

i should probably

make all my accs menacing

i forgot to do that

[raven vapor]

flails should be true melee

most of them anyways

[grim swallow]

good summoner loadout for first bosses?

[fading dove]

looks good for inf i think

[grim swallow]

wait do feral claws even give whip speed in calamity

they did in vanilla

[fading dove]

whips still scale with melee speed in cal iirc

[grim swallow]

nice

[fair geode]

m i should do a melee summoner run

i think thatd be funny

[waxen tide]

you should do yoyo run

[smoky dock]

yoyos are neato

[fair geode]

im so pissed still

[nimble wing]

She isn’t, but true melee strats for her definitely feel cleaner and healthier than base
In Infernum you basically just dodge most attacks and wait for the ones where she’s very easy to hit. In base you have to coax her into range by flailing her around, which can cause her to move directly into you or slingshot a ridiculous distance when switching to mobile

[silver wadi]

the one time I don't plan on playing mage

first night btw, it's barely been a minute or 2

[smoky dock]

You must've gotten a falling star night

I dunno how they get chosen... but I know that some nights, at random, will produce more falling stars!

[hushed timber]

Dam

[smoky dock]

Collect them all! They're useful!

[raven vapor]

why so many trash slots

[hushed timber]

I wonder
Are stars useful for Eternity Revengence True Melee?

[fading dove]

each one only acts for one item

[silver wadi]

it's just QoT's autotrash

[fading dove]

while auto trash lets you track as many as you want, quality of terraria's depends on what's in the slot

[smoky dock]

Does it? Mine works the same way as Auto Trash

[silver wadi]

those 5 are just a visualizer so you can see the most recent things you've autotrashed

it lets you track as many as you want

[smoky dock]

QoT's instead has a "queue" where auto-trashed items are put into the leftmost slots and the rest are shunted to the right

[silver wadi]

^

[smoky dock]

They only actually get deleted for good once they disappear from the rightmost slot

Lets you keep easier track of what you're getting, and lets you take back something if you decide you needed it, even if you got something else a few times

[steel ledge]

i would never get it honestly

the way it looks bothers me

just extra slots on bottom

[silver wadi]

bruh I even got the nebula colored moon

[steel ledge]

i am practically fine with autotrash, i hardly use it anyways

[silver wadi]

the game is telling me to play mage again

[steel ledge]

nah

do not

its trying to lure you in

[smoky dock]

oh i totally agree

[silver wadi]

also apparently fargo's eternity/maso gives you +50 max mana

[smoky dock]

I just use QoT's atp because it's one less mod I need to use

[silver wadi]

which explains why I always end up a few crystals short until I notice

[silver wadi]

yeah pretty much this

[lean arch]

Hey WotG question, if my Permafrost Keep didn't generate, am I comically screwed?

[silver wadi]

yes

dragonlens/cheatsheet fuckery inbound

or just start over

[lean arch]

thanks
I don't know why it didn't generated since the world is super recent lol

[steel ledge]

one less? what do you use to compensate for QOT if you dont have it on

[lean arch]

I'm gonna try some things and stuff or else that's 36 hours down the drain lol

[steel ledge]

36 isn't much imo

this is a 3 day progress if i am invested, or a week if i am too tired

[lean arch]

That's a mildly annoying amount to lose when free time is sparse

[waxen tide]

12 hours a day is not healthy

[humble marlin]

me completing an 18 hour playtrough in 3 weeks:

[steel ledge]

i played spiderman 2 for 2 days and i got a bit over 20 hours

fun game

[lean arch]

I used to do that when I was younger so I totally get it

[smoky dock]

Nonono, like

Why should I use QoT AND Auto Trash?

I prefer Auto Trash, but since QoT already has a similar enough function... I can use that instead. After all, I prefer using only one mod instead of two just for the same purpose.

[silver wadi]

?

nvm I thought this was still going on lol

[smoky dock]

More mods = worse

[silver wadi]

just saw the time

I was just wondering how tf the autotrash conversation continued that long til I saw the timestamps

[smoky dock]

I'd rather have fewer mods and a slightly less desirable feature than more mods and the same feature but more preferable

[silver wadi]

anyways probably going mage again because 140 mana on the first night is insane

[silver wadi]

yeah, not to mention performance being marginally better

[smoky dock]

Oh you used all those stars on mana?

Not on bait or early dough?

[silver wadi]

no

I used like 95% of them on mana and the rest was on a star in a bottle

mage brainrot is a serious disease

[smoky dock]

real

plasma rod is one of my favorite weapons in the game, after all

[silver wadi]

between the choice of play a full r*nger playthrough or use plasma rod, I would not use plasma rod

[smoky dock]

what the fuck is your problem

What beef do you have with plasma rod, my MAN

[silver wadi]

me when the early game goblin mage weapon is just a singular click and back to my main weapon

I mean yeah, if I really want the shadowflame debuff on a single target, it's not the worst

the problem being how many early pre-HM bosses are not single target

[smoky dock]

What bosses are you concerned about

DS and EoW, obviously

[silver wadi]

you got slime, EoC, crab, and brain (depending on mods)

yeah mainly those two

brain's creepers as well

which in infernum aren't a problem thankfully

[smoky dock]

Yeah, but you don't use it on the minions

The best part about Plasma Rod is it's completely noncommittal. YOu just don't use it when it isn't helpful and you don't lose anything.

[silver wadi]

how much DoT even is shadowflame again?

I'd have to check

[cedar laurel]

I think plasma rod was the sole reason why they nerfed that one eternity kingslime drop

[silver wadi]

the nefarious ancient cobalt ench:

[smoky dock]

30 DPS

But 10 out of all 13 pre-hardmode bosses are vulnerable to Heat debuffs, so in practice that'll be more than 30

[silver wadi]

also correct me if I'm wrong, but DoTs don't stack, right?

[smoky dock]

They do

They don't stack with THEMSELVES

But they stack with each other

[silver wadi]

wonder if there's a mod to change the dmg numbers to reflect that

[cedar laurel]

love me some abyssal amulet on top of plasma rod

[smoky dock]

They do already, I think

[silver wadi]

because as of rn, only the strongest DoT's dmg ticks are actually shown as numbers

[smoky dock]

and flame waker boomts

and slime gun

[cedar laurel]

So try

[smoky dock]

and any source of Hellfire

[cedar laurel]

u

[silver wadi]

hey ferb I know what we're gonna do today

the nefarious DoT mage has arisen

[smoky dock]

i love me my zero effort, minimal commitment 150-ish DPS

[cedar laurel]

Can’t wait for amalgam rework where it triple debuff damage (it’s still post DoG so idk if that still good)

[silver wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-sus-what-gif-23100979

amalgam rework + force of earth boutta go crazy with 6.5x debuff dmg

[smoky dock]

I wonder if Amalgam will get retiered to reflect it

actually no

if amalgam was post-provi or earlier then storm weaver would get bullied even more than it already does

[cedar laurel]

I hope it’s right after ml to reflect the thing I made up where
brain of confusion is early pre hm
Amalgamated brain is early Hardmode
So amalgam being early post ml was cool in my head

[fading dove]

what if it was made from a pink metal and was 2.5x dot instead

[silver wadi]

what if it got nerfed to 1.5x because calamity is afraid of fun

[cedar laurel]

less effective with shellfish

[silver wadi]

then got unnerfed to 3.5x by using a blue hexagon

[smoky dock]

i'm not opposed to pink

better than YELLOW

i hate yellow

[cedar laurel]

But does sage poison work with it

[lofty wasp]

is it worth to play with calamity ranger expansion?

[cedar laurel]

too op

[fading dove]

it adds preboss auric bars

[silver wadi]

shellfish doing 100 dmg per tick is crazy

[lofty wasp]

who

[smoky dock]

It can be fun for some silly times, but it's pretty notoriously overpowered. Don't use it for any SERIOUS runs

[fading dove]

cal ranger expansion

[lofty wasp]

oh ok, thanks

will play without it

[smoky dock]

is it shimmerable treasure

[fading dove]

a potion you spawn with

[smoky dock]

Ah

[fading dove]

30 hardtack shimmers into 1 auric bar

and iirc is a food buff better than exquisitely stuffed

and also lasts like 90 minutes

you spawn with 30

[smoky dock]

How much hardtack do you spawn with and does it suffer from the 66% refund rate?

[cedar laurel]

I saw a vid where flak kraken could 3 shots infernum cultist once with that mod on

[smoky dock]

oh, I don't think you can do much with one auric

[fading dove]

make a billion characters

[smoky dock]

ah

[fading dove]

wait is auric even usable without a cosmic anvil

[smoky dock]

yeah that makes sense

[smoky dock]

no but you can shimmer the auric into whatever

5 auric bars = 60 auric ore

[cedar laurel]

does it damage bosses….

[fading dove]

it gives postml zenith

[smoky dock]

then you can shimmer the ore into mythril for the mythril anvil

[fading dove]

oh right

yeah that intoduces a bunch of problems

[smoky dock]

then you can craft weapons out of uelibloom

[fading dove]

why does zenith not use a cosmic anvil in cal

[smoky dock]

oversight, presumably

make a suggestion about it

[fading dove]

hell why does zenith not use an ancient manipulator in vanilla

[smoky dock]

good question

[nimble wing]

https://youtu.be/3eM17HwM0kU
@smoky dock hey buddy

[smoky dock]

I thought this was Argus and I was about to kill you

[nimble wing]

i'm gonna skip argus

which is really weird because i normally love argus

[smoky dock]

makes total sense

for moom lord i'm going to try unattuned TBB for a bit

because it's

really

funny

[smoky dock]

is grand guardian's DEF reduction per segment? Wack.

[steel ledge]

i mean debuffs applied are per segment

what did you expect

[smoky dock]

now that you mention it, yeah I guess

[silver wadi]

part of the reason I love spamming tf out of cobalt naginata on boss segments

that and the fargo's explosions with oiled

[smoky dock]

I hope I can beat Argus today

I'm gonna upload it and leave it UNLISTED until I can make a PROPER thumbnail

[steel ledge]

isn't argus the goofy sand man

[fading dove]

yeah

[smoky dock]

i'm gonna beat him to death with a shovel

[steel ledge]

water him

[smoky dock]

propser, stupid mammal

[waxen tide]

kill his pet

[nimble wing]

gravedigger's shovel hide of astrum deus

doesn't hide work with literally anything

[smoky dock]

yes

as long as it deals true melee damage iirc

not sure if it works on inferna cutter, actually

lets see

[vernal breach]

why did rift oneshot old duke instantly?

[vernal breach]

jumpscare

[little steppe]

rift felt a lil funny

[silver wadi]

only good thing the rift does to your world

[smoky dock]

it's just a very funny way to fix a long time bug

[humble marlin]

i had to fight him after the rift ate him

he js spawned back lmao

[little steppe]

he always comes back

[humble marlin]

horrifying

[smoky dock]

okay hide of astrum deus only works when it feels like working

sometimes it just does not

[silver wadi]

ok worldgen rating (yes this is sandless from last night)

[smoky dock]

like on Avalanche

[little steppe]

average person at work

[smoky dock]

too much surface

[smoky dock]

when i'm at work, I feel like not getting fired

[humble marlin]

fire

[silver wadi]

ah yes, haven't ravaged the cool worldgen with an arena that takes up a fifth of it, my bad

I'll get right on that once I prep for king slime

nah, trojan squirrel

[snow sun]

Because fuck him

[lucid cypress]

wow ok solyn

[snow sun]

What the fu

[lucid cypress]

anything to not live in my house

rude

[snow sun]

She likes outside.

[smoky dock]

YOU should give WITCH DOCTOR some BETTER LIVING CONDITIONS

[little steppe]

he better live in a palace

in the jungle

[raven vapor]

the mighty jungle

the lion sleeps tonight

[humble marlin]

frog

[rich elm]

any1 know why solyn jkust says good luck after having beaten ceaseless void? she didnt do any cutscene and didnt give me a seed

[silver wadi]

the guide needs to PUT THOSE AWAY

[smoky dock]

protip

build a machine to repeatedly and permanently murder the guide

over and over

it's good luck

[light gulch]

Merchant refuses to stop phasing through walls just to sit directly behind the guide and be inaccessible no matter what I do

[smoky dock]

squint

what the fuck is going on over here

that shouldn't be possible, what

[light gulch]

Even forcing him out with zombies and then leaving the area just causes him to teleport right back behind the guide

[smoky dock]

uhhh, maybe actuate the chair?

wait no, you only have one chair per building

well uhhhh
on the bright side he'll start walking again during the day

[light gulch]

I don't have anything to actuate the chair with I haven't beaten Skeletron 😔

[smoky dock]

you might be able to invalidate the housing. they'll start walking around if you do

[light gulch]

yeah but he won't go back to his side

[smoky dock]

uhhh

maybe switch around the housing? put demo where guide is, merchant where demo is, and guide where merchant is

[light gulch]

??????????

[smoky dock]

maybe uhhhhh

[grim swallow]

good for eye?

[smoky dock]

seperate the two areas with a door...? Or replace the platform roof on one side with solids

[snow sun]

They fuckin

[light gulch]

it persists even when I restart the game

[smoky dock]

it's probably just an issue with the Merchant being confused of what's considered "his" house

If you can master this then you might be able to use it for an infinite house. One building everybody shares.

[light gulch]

originally I had replaced the walls between the two with a door, but I replaced it with solid blocks once I started noticing the merchant sitting behind the guide

[waxen tide]

yuh

[smoky dock]

my only idea is that it's an issue related to the roof of platforms above their houses

[snow sun]

Exotic life fruits is interesting to me

[steel ledge]

i am starting to think you live in this chat

[snow sun]

I think he does

[heavy moat]

Unsure if this'll actually be used at all, but still fun to make
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1129281417663238178/1386755350002401460/2025-06-23_12-08-42.mp4?ex=685adc10&is=68598a90&hm=3d34a5de1563565cd7655aa6781180b3a767793802de491f8b95b742cc06295a&

[smoky dock]

Ooh, impressive!

Why wouldn't it be used?

[jaunty orchid]

how am i suppoed to get this in infernum ?

[queen isle]

why the hell would infernum change its obtainment

just execute the clothier

[jaunty orchid]

where hes not in the dungeon

okay nvm got it

[tender ocean]

Any way to increase dashing regen? I cant dashing fast enough in infernum yharon's phase 2 attack

I'm using asgardian aegis and the double tap override.

[fluid flax]

use one dash to go through him

and then fly up

or down

to dodge the second dash

then repeat

[tender ocean]

Ah ok i was wondering if I was doing that wrong. Thanks!

[thin canyon]

solyn is gone.. (just finished AOE)

[heavy moat]

I'm a bit scared of changing Nameless too much in general but also I'm worried that the dreamcatcher suction thing would be a bit too reminiscent of the Avatar

[smoky dock]

Makes sense

[clear quail]

i recall astrageldon of catalyst mod has like reactive DR to prevent players from killing it too fast, is it still true

[grim swallow]

omg 16k hp for crabulon

[raven vapor]

yes sadly

[smoky dock]

Yes

[grizzled pagoda]

is infernum compatible with wrath of the gods

[smoky dock]

Should be

[native cosmos]

yo gang, geldon armor or solar armor?

[smoky dock]

they're functionally identical

[native cosmos]

Hi prikki

[smoky dock]

heya heya

[native cosmos]

i mean which one is better?

[smoky dock]

👁️ 👁️

They're equal

Out of all my testing

Solar and Intergelactic did not differ by more than a few tiny seconds

[grim swallow]

do I use belladonna spirit or shrooms for EoW

or what

[smoky dock]

well, based on what you know about both of them

which do you expect to perform better?

[grim swallow]

stormjaw tbh

he is a worm and DS got melted

[night fractal]

brittle star

don't forget the goat ..

[tender ocean]

Tysm! I managed to actually beat him! : )

[smoky dock]

then try using Stormjaws

[night fractal]

I actually do not know what performs best

but I like brittle stars

they're funny

[grim swallow]

I forgot the goat

[smoky dock]

If you don't like how well stormjaws work

[high sparrow]

guys guys

yo dihzahrd

remember me?

[fluid flax]

oh wow

[smoky dock]

Then use belladonnas, brittle stars, or shrooms

[high sparrow]

nah but one question

[fluid flax]

i gave helpful tips

[smoky dock]

No

[high sparrow]

is infernum compatible with thorium?

[fluid flax]

wtf

[high sparrow]

💔

[smoky dock]

No

[high sparrow]

what is the worst that could happen

[tender ocean]

Yeah the going up and down actually helped with me avoiding his dash attack

[smoky dock]

Uhhhhhh

[high sparrow]

im the guy who was calling u dihzhard before

[smoky dock]

Boss AI gets overwritten

[tender ocean]

And to counter the final phase

[smoky dock]

Ummm

[high sparrow]

oh fr?

but if I use death

[fast magnet]

is there an addon that prevents rogues from firing without stealth strikes

[high sparrow]

will they work?

[smoky dock]

Don't use Infernum if you aren't using Infernum mode

[high sparrow]

no yeah i'll use infernum mode

[smoky dock]

That will break quite a few things, notably the abyss

[high sparrow]

if I use infernum mode + thorium will it work?

[smoky dock]

Depends on your definition of "work"

[high sparrow]

what's the worst that could happen

[smoky dock]

It probably won't crash on boot, but it also won't function properly

[smoky dock]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fluid flax]

yw :3

[high sparrow]

as in?

[smoky dock]

the most i know about Thorium is that it's a superheavy, fertile metal

[high sparrow]

well okay

[high sparrow]

lol idk what that means

[smoky dock]

Thorium is an element on the periodic table

[night fractal]

That literally what it means about the irl metal thorium

[high sparrow]

💔

[smoky dock]

I think it's transuranic

[night fractal]

it is radioactive

[high sparrow]

wild

[smoky dock]

But I know for certain it's past lead

It is indeed radioactive

[high sparrow]

so

[night fractal]

we don't know what will happen, but in general mixing content mods breaks stuff

[smoky dock]

But since it has an even numbered atomic number, it's quite stable

[high sparrow]

I can complete the playthrough if im doing infernum and thorium?

[high sparrow]

only using 1 main mod is boring now

[smoky dock]

I don't know

[high sparrow]

i'll bring answers! someday

[smoky dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279480813947326649/1279481048098410558/caption.gif

[grim swallow]

is this good enough for EoW

[gloomy wedge]

is it possible to get this book with infernum?

[night fractal]

feral claws don't so much

[gloomy wedge]

or do i just need to cheat it in

[night fractal]

I'd recommend voltaic jelly

[smoky dock]

i was about to complain that voltaic jelly won't help much since eow is immune to debuffs mostly

but then i remembered voltaic jelly is unnecessarily cracked

anyways uhhhh

[night fractal]

me when +1 minion slot

[smoky dock]

mixing content mods = bad idea
they can become particularly unpredictable since they all have SO MANY changes that encompass SO MUCH of the game and are not designed with each other in mind

Especially since they're prone to trying to touch on the same content

[native cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/leon-kennedy-lets-take-a-look-resident-evil-re-re1-gif-1861111754343783039

[smoky dock]

i did look

i tested them

[native cosmos]

ok whatever

have anyone tried entropy addon tho?

[smoky dock]

intergelactic was 9 seconds slower on bumblefuck (2:52 vs. 3:01)

interegelactic was 1 second faster on guards (2:33 vs. 2:32)

[fading dove]

entropy is not balance compatible with anything that isnt like
thorium

[spice pike]

free loot i guess.

[smoky dock]

intergelactic was 5 seconds faster on providence (5:40 vs. 5:35)

[native cosmos]

i was just asking cuz i am just quite questioned by its weapons

entire ark fo the cosmos for tmelee

[fading dove]

theyre probably obscenely broken

[native cosmos]

says true melee

shoots projectiles

[smoky dock]

no

[fading dove]

the one point of reference i have for entropy is that wof drop that removes defence damage, gives 12 regen, and i think also like 20 defence

[smoky dock]

the simplest definition of true melee is that it does not fire projectiles when it misses

[native cosmos]

i mean in entropy mod

[smoky dock]

In reality it gets more complicated than that but

If it FIRES PROJECTILES, even when it HITS NOTHING, then it's probably NOT true melee

[native cosmos]

words on you, it says true melee.

[smoky dock]

finally i might be able to beat cryogen

[smoky dock]

wher

[native cosmos]

nvm

wrong weapon

[smoky dock]

DD

also the game's definition is wrong

[native cosmos]

oh huh

they.. fixed that

[smoky dock]

The game is not a reliable source of what is and isn't true melee because it gets it wrong multiple times in both directions

[native cosmos]

it used to say true melee before

i swear

[smoky dock]

Not uncommon for weapons to have their Truth removed

[fading dove]

ultimus cleaver says tmelee but its also very clearly not tmelee

[smoky dock]

okay so uhhhh this means it's 5% slower...

[native cosmos]

those 9 seconds are important af

you can get brutally murdered in 9 seconds

[smoky dock]

here it's 0.6% faster

[fading dove]

its not like those 9 seconds are of dogma

theyre probably of like

attack transitions

[smoky dock]

and here it's 1.5% faster

[smoky dock]

it's bumblefuck

it doesn't really have those, it's just kinda

a short cycle

[fading dove]

oh right

bumblefuck isnt too bad if you have any range though

granted its melee

[smoky dock]

this is intergelactic melee so

[fading dove]

so you have like

[smoky dock]

✨ no ✨

[night fractal]

Not true

But fun fact

[smoky dock]

ultimus cleaver got changed

[fading dove]

[insert postml melee weapon] and [insert postml melee weapon]

[smoky dock]

inferna cutter did not get changed for some fuckass reason

[night fractal]

Ultimus still shoots projectiles even with Tainted

[fading dove]

what the fuck

[night fractal]

Ultimus will NOT lose the fake true melee allegations

[smoky dock]

LOL

at this point y'all should just stop trying to fix it

Trying to kill the spaghetti monster just makes it come back stronger

[fading dove]

nvm its 16 effective regen (vanilla valhalla knight at its peak) that also acts as direct healing so it works with omega blue, 50 max hp, and also removes defence damage

[smoky dock]

lmao

[fading dove]

also its less opportunity cost than valhalla knight chest because you give up 1 of your six accessory slots rather than 1 of your 1 chest slots

but its fine since its exclusive to death

entropy's probably cool if you just like fucking around and not high difficulty environments

[smoky dock]

could be fun to try and play the game blind

like, no vision.

that'd enable turbo facetank strats

[fading dove]

permanent obstructed

also not using laudanum

why does laudanum even change obstructed

[compact hedge]

what should i upgrade for slime god and wof

[fading dove]

im guessing infernum

[compact hedge]

yeah

[fading dove]

is bee gun even anything

[compact hedge]

just killed skeletron

[fading dove]

considering it gets fucked by defence and also doesnt have local

[compact hedge]

i was alright it just doesnt do crazy damage

like 200dps

i just need help with accessories

[fading dove]

i'd probably say black anurian over bee gun which lets you drop hive pack

also bundle over wings

ive heard abyss shocker eats things alive

[compact hedge]

is nights ray still any good?

[fading dove]

nights ray is post slime god

[compact hedge]

and what do i put in place of hive pack

yeah but i could drop slime god pretty easy

just wondering

[fading dove]

aqua scepter is good

[gloomy wedge]

personally i went for flamelash and magic missile on wof

theyre pretty good weapons imo

[fading dove]

weather pain is a nice subweapon

[gloomy wedge]

flamelash for the eyes, magic missile for the mouth

[compact hedge]

ty

idk what to put over hive pack?

[gloomy wedge]

once you beat slime god, mana polarizer

[compact hedge]

should i put damage or like a honey dew

[fading dove]

radiant ooze got fixed so its super strong now

[fair geode]

lmao

[smoky dock]

imo pre-hardmode has so many cracked as shit defensive accessories and so few strong offensive ones that it's hard to justify using more than one offensive one

rogue gets a bye because rogue's offensive accessories are yuge

[gloomy wedge]

yeah crown jewel alone is like

INSANE

[smoky dock]

i have never thought about crown jewel for more than ten seconds

[compact hedge]

should i get crown jewel

ive never used it

[smoky dock]

Ultimately all your questions can be answered by "Experiment and find out"

[gloomy wedge]

its super good

i used crown jewel for literally all of pre hm

[smoky dock]

Get it, use it for a bit, then switch it out, and see how your gameplay is different

[gloomy wedge]

here was my slime god infernum kill for reference

[fading dove]

crown jewel line depends very much on a question
how often do i have debuffs during this boss

[smoky dock]

It'll be obvious what it was doing just by looking at what was different

[compact hedge]

i first try most bosses anyway so i dont think it really matters too much💀

[smoky dock]

yeah crown jewel is uhhhh

4 DEF and 1 HP/s is kinda nice I guess

[compact hedge]

is counter scarf better than SoC

[fading dove]

yeah

mainly because it does something

[gloomy wedge]

best dash is to not use one

[fading dove]

vs soc which does nothing

[smoky dock]

the flat life regen when debuffed seems nice, but when are you ever debuffed?

[fading dove]

a lot in basecal, not so much in inf

[compact hedge]

honey dew just seems scrictly better

[smoky dock]

the natural life regen bump is really nice considering you get to KEEP that 30 second head start

But if you take a DAMAGING debuff then your natural life regen is disabled anyways until it expires

[compact hedge]

looks the same to me with +30 hp

[smoky dock]

max HP isn't real

completely dead stat

but these two look similar...

[fading dove]

radiant ooze gets up to 12 regen which is kinda fuckin insane

vanilla valhalla knight chest gives 8 regen for context

[smoky dock]

tbh I'd rather just run items for defense and support for Brain of Confusion

[compact hedge]

yeah im just gonna kill slime god with tradewinds and see if i can do it

[gloomy wedge]

speaking of builds is this gonna be enough to attempt scourge/brimmy? kinda wanna do all of them pre-mech

using p90 and marrow as my weapons rn

[compact hedge]

if i die ill use smt better

[smoky dock]

Just build around BoC and you're basically immortal

[dusty cobalt]

cat

[compact hedge]

i love magiluminesence

goat accessory

[fair geode]

dam nti

i fucked it

actually no hit up to that point

[compact hedge]

nice

[fair geode]

also should i reforge all to menacing

cause rn its warding

actually

would violent be better for true melee?

[compact hedge]

tradewinds were not in fact good enough

[dusty cobalt]

what about your crit rate

[fair geode]

its like uh 60

close enough

[dusty cobalt]

ion know about that one

[fair geode]

@smoky dock is menacing or violent better for tm?

[smoky dock]

.

the answer is neither btw

Warding, no exception

[fair geode]

but for dog

[smoky dock]

against DoG, every reforge will help you about equally as much

[fair geode]

i know warding is the best for everything expect dog

[smoky dock]

you can choose your reforge by rolling a die

I can do that for you, if you'd like

[gloomy wedge]

lets gooo first try

[jade bone]

GG

[fast magnet]

is death's ascension good for infernum dog

[grim swallow]

fuck corruption

if I was playing crimson I would have been at queen bee

but I have just killed EoW

[smoky dock]

Very

But only the right click is...

The left click is pretty much completely outclassed by Lion Heart

[fast magnet]

ok

[grim swallow]

What should I ise for inf hive mind as summoner
Imp staff woth obsidian armor?

And oh god its master infernum hive mind

[jade bone]

It is but lion heart is better

[gloomy wedge]

first mech down

super fun fight ngl

[little steppe]

infernum twins are peak

[past pagoda]

angel wings pwease

[gloomy wedge]

no

[little steppe]

fairy is fine

tho now you could get bee

[gloomy wedge]

i like the extra flight time of fairy

[little steppe]

bee has better flight stats iirc

or bat

[gloomy wedge]

oh then ill go get bee

[fair geode]

GOD DAMN IT

ok whatever at least i know i can do it

[granite mantle]

what is this

[gloomy wedge]

nothing, don't worry about it :)

[little steppe]

my friend

his name is bob

say hi to bob

[granite mantle]

are u sure?

[little steppe]

he comes to say hi

be nice to him pretty please

[pearl shoal]

@low meteor could you move this pin to the top, i have updated it since people keep reporting WotG shit here for some reason

i will also start being stricter with WotG and Infernum reports, i’ve gotten too lenient with those

[compact hedge]

did they nerf black anurian?

im only doing like 200 dps

[waxen tide]

like a year ago

I would use flamelash though

[gloomy wedge]

flamelash and magic missile are really good magic weapons imo

[fast magnet]

hell yeah infernum dog in 3 tries

[spare holly]

the terraria gods HATE me

[fading dove]

its always funny when that happens

[past pagoda]

❌

[gloomy wedge]

so does the frostblessed sapling actually do anything

[little steppe]

does something like

post cv

[gloomy wedge]

oh

boring

[little steppe]

and all it does is grow

post cv I mean

it does more things later

[fading dove]

it lets you access the big parts

[spare holly]

can you date solyn yet or is that only gonna be added in the next update

[fading dove]

bad post

execution imminent

[little steppe]

make solyn aroace

idk if she already is

but if she isnt make her

[elder nebula]

cal is already aroace

we can't do this bit twice

[little steppe]

statis is gay and braelor is too

whats your point

[elder nebula]

the "make female character people wanna fuck aroace to troll them"
the difference is it works for calamitas's character

[spare holly]

oh my god is this a reference to the 22 bullet theory???

[fiery mango]

that's not the reason she's aroace

[fading dove]

no its a reference to queen bee

22~1

[little steppe]

Scal isnt aroace beacuse of that

[elder nebula]

it's like half the reason

[little steppe]

she is like too traumatized to trust anyone

[little steppe]

no

[fiery mango]

people don't make aroace characters because "people wanna fuck them"

in fact thinking that that's the reason is...questionable behaviour

[little steppe]

idk solyn gives me aroace vibes

[elder nebula]

oh so we're doing this now

nice

[little steppe]

tho cant say much I am like post mechs in my wotg run

[smoky dock]

This isn't the type of topic we should be chatting about here

[little steppe]

true

[native cosmos]

have anyone managed to do jared early?

just lwk curious question

we managed to do Old duke right after ml with melon.

his weapon should be enough for jared i guess

[little steppe]

early in what sense

like I tried super turbo early

(post skeletron)

[smoky dock]

PW early is not something I'd expect to be uncommon

[little steppe]

oh post od

pre dog jared is

not that bad tbh

wait no provi

nor polter

eh shouldnt be too bad either I think

[grim swallow]

Hey guys

I forgot how bad is hive mind fight as a summoner (master infernum)

I remember it being easy but long

[fiery mango]

It's definitely a drag

Not too hard.

But yeah

[fair geode]

god i hate dog

if i didnt fuck up at 3%

[grim swallow]

It was easier than the fucking worm yeah?

[austere cliff]

why is Solyn just saying ...? I cant craft the flagpole either

[grim swallow]

Because I despise EoW now

Crabulon with his 16k hp was beter

[feral trellis]

is there anything to get rid of the ice in wotg

like i built the coolest base ever with water but it keeps freezing

[elder nebula]

kill the rift

[little steppe]

give her time I think

[feral trellis]

i know but im not good at the game and im just tryna do some building for now

[elder nebula]

unfortunately you just have to suck it until you kill the rift

[feral trellis]

💔

[grim swallow]

And the rift is the second last boss

[feral trellis]

they should probably change it so it doesnt delete solid blocks placed in water

[grim swallow]

So that ice will follow you for the rest of post ml

[feral trellis]

i put platforms down to try to fish but it just deleted the platforms unfortunately

[grim swallow]

Imo they should make the rift appear after CV/DoG

[feral trellis]

i like the rift it looks so tuff but the evil sandstorms and water freezing over is really annoying

[grim swallow]

Because it appears too early do by the time you get to AoE it stops being menacing and becomes annoying

[austere cliff]

I have given her time to exo mechs

[marsh mulch]

i'm getting performance issues on infernum (both profaned guardians and polterghast)

the thing is that when i played melee i had no issues

[grim swallow]

Who are you now

[little steppe]

did you even had wotg while world creation

[austere cliff]

yes

i have the weird background too

[little steppe]

I think the issue here is that

[austere cliff]

and she landed right after skeletron

[little steppe]

you have aoe and solyn isnt set up

[fast magnet]

excelsus or cosmic shiv for infernum yharon

[marsh mulch]

and now playing mage i'm getting issues even with reduced graphics and the same major mods

[elder nebula]

excelsus

[austere cliff]

so can i fix it?

[little steppe]

yes you create a new world

[feral trellis]

it does a good job of making the player uneasy

especially with removing the surface music

i wish i got the music boxes beforehand

[fiery mango]

the first playthrough, maybe.

following playthroughs the rift stuff is just annoying

speaking from experience

I'd opt out of the Solyn Quest stuff as a whole if I had another option to summon AoE

[grim swallow]

Also guys

Is the vanilla "fuck the minions I am the true horror of bosses" strat for summoner post evil boss works in infernum

[little steppe]

what

[grim swallow]

Obsidian armor and full whip build

[little steppe]

experiment and find out ig

[grim swallow]

There is bo experiment

I will do that strat I just wanna know if it will be good

[rich elm]

anyone know why infernum dogs causing some insane fps lag? im also running with wrath of the gods

[little steppe]

uuh find out by yourself

[grim swallow]

No shit

And like overall how different is my calamity build for post evil1 from vanilla

Like do I still use imp staff?

[little steppe]

use vile feeders

[low meteor]

okay i think that should work

[fast magnet]

wow i first tried inf yharon

[elder nebula]

nice

[grim swallow]

Oh ok

[safe yew]

need help with solyn stuck on the part where we kill ceaseless void and she continuously says good luck

[grim swallow]

Do you mean when she enters the rift or what?

[safe yew]

yea

she wont go to the dungeon

[grim swallow]

Weird as shit, I have no idea what could you do with that tbh so I would say give yourself the seed if you cant do anything else?

[safe yew]

this is the second world she has done this to

i dont know wth to do

[pearl shoal]

[fiery mango]

fricking solyn man...

is it fair to say she singlehandedly lowers the mod's rating for me?

[silver wadi]

it is actually astounding how many people don't understand that addon bugs are addon problems

[silver wadi]

but but cinnamon rollyns

[fiery mango]

(forced ngl)

[limber sage]

I forgot there's even a bug channel

[little steppe]

to me solyn is a nothingburger

[pearl shoal]

nah

[fiery mango]

it wouldn't be so bad if she worked, but her questline isn't really fun to go through

[silver wadi]

nah genuinely I'd probably crash out day one if I had to read bug reports for anything

[silver wadi]

yeah, when she works her questline is nice, but not really that involved

it's mostly just "hey solyn I found x, okay lets go do y, cool we got the macguffin seedling, see you next time"

[fiery mango]

the rift kinda counts as part of her questline too

and that just isn't good.

[silver wadi]

I love what she tries to do, but it's kinda mixed tbh

I do like solyn a lot as a char though

[fiery mango]

killing all surface music and freezing over the water is just annoying

and intrusive

and it persists for ALL of pml

[little steppe]

nuh uh it persists for 99% of pml get it right...

[silver wadi]

I think the rift eclipse's stage in progression is a common complaint

[grim swallow]

Solyn quest is cool when it works

[silver wadi]

imo, post-DoG would've been a great spot

[fiery mango]

ngl i'd prefer if AoE was just summoned with an item

it's boring and uncreative

[limber sage]

gfb is silly...I can kill geldon in under 3:30

[grim swallow]

Post CV would make more sense

[fiery mango]

but i'd prefer it over solyn quest

[heavy moat]

WotG is bad

[simple apex]

🥀

[silver wadi]

[grim swallow]

Tho I cant deny I love solyns mechanic in mars fight

[limber sage]

WotM is good tho

[grim swallow]

Yes

[fiery mango]

Mars is kinda the only time I cared abt Solyn

[grim swallow]

(probably I dont know shit bout it)

[limber sage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFP_KZGP-qY

[grim swallow]

Wait eternity death?

[jade bone]

Okay what do i use for yharon

[limber sage]

there's a standalone

[silver wadi]

yeah

[limber sage]

called wrath of the machines

[silver wadi]

wrath of the machines is baked into fargo's

[jade bone]

Also hertamei is based

[silver wadi]

well, more accurately is what lerin said yeah

[grim swallow]

Oh okay because I am not even close to eternity death

[silver wadi]

tyvm

[grim swallow]

Oh okay so the fight is the same as in eternity death got it

[heavy moat]

I dunno
Bosses are cool but all I really see with Solyn are Problems

Problems with the quest, problems with the bugs, problems with interactivity, problems with her dialogue being too saccharine and unengaging, etc. etc. etc.

It kinda makes me wish I'd have never made her

[silver wadi]

[neat wagon]

[simple apex]

meow

i like solyn,,

[grim swallow]

Also a very annoying bug with her quests is that you cant move

[fiery mango]

It's definitely hard when things don't work out how you want,

[silver wadi]

I also like solyn

[grim swallow]

So if an enemy pushes you while you are doing the telescope quest you are softlocked

[limber sage]

the thing I like about WotG is the bosses, and the books

[heavy moat]

That is very annoying

[grim swallow]

Agree

[silver wadi]

I've had the opposite, where I don't stop moving when in the telescope, so I have to grapple to the ground before doing that if I don't wanna end up like 5 miles from home

but tbf, that's about the only bug I've had with solyn

[grim swallow]

Wait does this even work with infernum
I would guess that it overrides it yeah?

[silver wadi]

and she wanted to see the CV portal twice once, but it didn't break anything

[limber sage]

you can't have two AI overwritting mods together

[silver wadi]

unless they have compatibility to specifically overwrite one

[limber sage]

true

[grim swallow]

Also if you have dash key binded to a mouse button and press it accidentally you are also soft locked

[silver wadi]

which WoTM does, it overrides infernum because lucille is big smart

[heavy moat]

It feels like you're in the minority

[limber sage]

wait, seriously?

so I can use WotM with infernum?

[grim swallow]

Yay

[simple apex]

weh

[limber sage]

welp, once I'm done with gfb rogue, I'mma resume my infernum run and enable that

[silver wadi]

that honestly kinda surprises me a little, I have a few complaints about her but as a whole I think she's great for the mod, and yes I do lump the book collection as part of her quest because it kinda is

[grim swallow]

Im actually not gonna spoil the fight for myself

[heavy moat]

The biggest issue is her being barely functional

[silver wadi]

reminds me a lot of the museum from SDV and that's one of my favorite collection mechanics in the game

[heavy moat]

Kinda difficult to enjoy something if it isn't even working

[grim swallow]

The idea and the quest itself is fire
The bad part is bugs and stuff like that

[silver wadi]

yeah, that's fair, I just personally haven't run into bugs with her much unless I did something wrong with the mod

like trying to throw it on my endgame playthrough with zero research, only to find out the questline exists

[grim swallow]

And tbh the rift part wasnt as annoying for me as people say it is

Mainly because I dont fish

[silver wadi]

ah, yeah rift freezing the water annoyed me a total of one time

when I had to catch like 1 specific fish for the Trawler soul

[little steppe]

does underground water freeze too

[silver wadi]

no

the main annoyance was I had to fish something from the sulphurous sea

[little steppe]

thank god

[grim swallow]

Was it something or someone

[silver wadi]

actually not sure tbh

might've been both

[grim swallow]

And tbh infernum is my favourite QoL mod

[limber sage]

wait

is WotE compatible with infernum as well?

[grim swallow]

Whos wrath is WotE

[limber sage]

Wrath of the Empress

it makes EoL post ML

bust an absolutely stunning and gorgeous fight

but*

[grim swallow]

If it was made by lucille too then most likely

[limber sage]

yeah, it is

I should test it out...

[lucid cypress]

solyn will do anything but live in my house

so rude

[limber sage]

cuz that means i can actually enjoy all of infernum, as I pref WotE over any other EoL rework

[grim swallow]

Whats with them and wrath of creatures

[silver wadi]

but her tent has books and sleeping bag

[lucid cypress]

she can bring the tent

INSIDE!!!!

[silver wadi]

also tf is her telescope pointing towards

[lucid cypress]

THERES ROOM!!!

[lucid cypress]

the painting of nameless deity

[night fractal]

i agree with this

i actually really like solyn

... when she works

[lucid cypress]

she didnt work on my first playthrough

ever since then no issues

[limber sage]

she had a slight hiccup in my first run

[lucid cypress]

except that bug that softlocks you after beating mars and aoe

[limber sage]

it was with the CV portal

she took awhile to register that it was there

[night fractal]

I had to pull out my dragonlens skills to make her spawn my first playthough

but after that it all worked fine

[lucid cypress]

you can talk to her while shes in the portal

[night fractal]

CV repeated twice but didn't infinite loop

[lucid cypress]

she just sits right in the middle for a few seconds

[limber sage]

is it weird that when I'm not playing souls dlc or infernum, I only play gfb

[grim swallow]

At this post nt infernum is wrath of the bosses or smth

[lucid cypress]

having infernum on makes ceaseless void spawn and despawn every frame during the quest with solyn

[grim swallow]

Yeah

[lucid cypress]

nah im the same way

other mods aint hard enough

[grim swallow]

Thats funny because I had like 215 attempts on him because of that

[limber sage]

gfb DS is a nightmare

[lucid cypress]

on my ranger playthrough my first infernum death was to cultist

[limber sage]

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