calamity-addon-talk

[silver wadi]

me when my "support weapon" cobalt naginata does 12% of the total damage

meteor staff still did like 45%, but it was kinda funny to see how much the naginata did for how infrequently I used it

[fair geode]

ok so i def wanna switch from cel shell to absorber

right

prikki what should i use for folly cause chainsaw wont work i think

[smoky dock]

Get a list of all the weapons you have available (minus the ones that obviously won't work, like the preboss fodder) and pick the ones you think have the best shot

Do the same for accessories

[native cosmos]

yo gang how good is astrageldons no hit weapon?

worth getting?

[silver wadi]

it's very good, but not really worth doing the no hit specifically for the weapon

it'll basically let you skip to post-DoG

but you could just also play the game normally

and not cut out like half of the postML content

(the better half imo progression wise, post-DoG gathering mats and such is mind numbing)

[native cosmos]

its not like u can skip post ml progression?

youre forced to do provie and ml after all

[silver wadi]

nope, you can, that's kinda the whole point of astrageldon

never have to do providence

you can go straight to yharon if you wanted

but you do have to fight DoG at some point if you want to get to SCal and Draedon, as cosmilite is required for the anvil

you can skip provi with catalyst since metanova bars can substitute for uelibloom in the draedon recipes

but yeah anyways, the weapon is basically strong enough to trivialize everything up to DoG, which it will still shred pretty easily

then it falls off

[native cosmos]

hm

well aint its reasonable since its nohit drop?

i never got it in any of my playthroughs

but been doing multiplayer with one of mine ppl, managed to nohit first phase and thought if i should actually try getting it once

[fair geode]

ok baleful harvest sucks

[smoky dock]

it is (unfortunately)

[slim barn]

Not as much as the phosphorescent gauntlet

[nimble wing]

HEY

[fair geode]

gonna try vulc lance

[slim barn]

So good in theory

[nimble wing]

okay sure it's useless in base because it's up against old duke (you won't need it) and dog (unusable)

[fair geode]

doesnt it give i frames

[nimble wing]

but i think a thing's performance against fabsolian bosses is basically irrelevant

[slim barn]

Just calamity overhaul gauntlet is viable

Cause its range is absurd

[fair geode]

isnt cal overhaul like

dogshit

[slim barn]

Not really used it in a while

[fair geode]

there was an image about it here wasnt there

[dusty cobalt]

[fair geode]

hm

i mean maybe

[smoky dock]

Keep trying, work on other options if you think it's necessary
Tinker with your alcohols, candle, flasks, etc

[fair geode]

im using ichor flask rn

[smoky dock]

I really like the debuff flasks because they can make one hit deal a lot of damage, even if you can't hit any more after a few seconds

[nimble wing]

true melee thrives on debuffs until about mechs

[smoky dock]

unfortunately yeah

even afterwards debuffs can still be nice to have

[fair geode]

is folly weak to brimflame/is it better than ichor

[slim barn]

Use crumbling

[smoky dock]

dragonfolly is vulnerable to Heat and probably also Sickness idk

check da weekee

[slim barn]

Try the omniblade

Ik is pre moonlord but😔

[fair geode]

yah sickness cold and heat

[smoky dock]

rad

[nimble wing]

omniblade sucks

[fair geode]

well

had my best attempt with it lmao

[grim swallow]

Hey guys

My next run im simulating a master infernum playthrough

Should I add the sixth accessory slot

And remove it post ml

Or should I not do that

[fair geode]

hmmm i could fight deus

@smoky dock is deus just sub shocker or?

[fading dove]

iirc the case is really fucked up and its that links dont embed if there's a line break, and non link text on the next line

[fading dove]

butcher's chainsaw

[fair geode]

got it

[fading dove]

also slagsplitter

[smoky dock]

deus is like

whatever you feel like

[fading dove]

i got a 1:40 with a slam build

trust me this is tmelee

butcher's chainsaw is funny because its a tool and not a weapon

[smoky dock]

the hellfire on hit via fire gauntlet means pretty much whatever da fuck can deal damage works

[fading dove]

so it doesn't eat up stealth

[wide junco]

best is vulcanite lance iirc

[nimble wing]

prikki what's wrong with ravager

[smoky dock]

dropped on head as baby

[nimble wing]

i'm working on nohitting it rn and it inexplicably has a morbillion true melee resistance

[smoky dock]

except it was less of like

an accident

[grim swallow]

How is your name a gradient

[smoky dock]

and more of a fastball pitch into concrete

[grim swallow]

I have never seen that

[snow sun]

I just found two texture packs that are the EMBODIMENT of the duality of terraria boss texture packs

[smoky dock]

use and abuse Diseased Pike or cry

[tough shell]

is there any way to fix the compatibility issues with infernum and wrath of the gods

[grim swallow]

I dont think there are issues

[tough shell]

the main point of contention seems to be both of the mods change the boss rush acquisition method

[nimble wing]

source

[smoky dock]

Does WotG still have the Terminal

[grim swallow]

Yes

[smoky dock]

then use the Terminal

[grim swallow]

Eidolon wyrm drops it

[smoky dock]

there is no problem

[nimble wing]

oh yeah that

[tough shell]

from when i played i remembered wrath of the gods added a note saying they didn't agree wit hthe implementation of the boss rush that replaces the terminus in the chest

[smoky dock]

that’s correct yes

[tough shell]

while infernum adds eidolon worm as an entire superboss

[smoky dock]

yes that’s the case

it’ll also drop Terminal which is a crudely drawn Terminus screenshat from MS Paint

It functions the same way Calamity’s unmodified Terminus does

[grim swallow]

The terminus is still at the bottom of the abyss

When you mine it eidolon wyrm spawns in

[tough shell]

..i guess i just assumed they don't work together then??

[grim swallow]

When he dies he gives terminus (ND summon) and terminal (boss rush summon from wotg) alongside the note that they say that "boss rush is ass but for masochists we will add a way to summon it"

[tough shell]

happy to know i don't need to choose then

so for the sake of non-changed or modded bosses, does infernum just set them to the revengance mode ai?

and reveangence mode awards?

i know it might seem evident to you guys but im asking cause i genuinely don't know

[humble marlin]

death mode AI

[tough shell]

i've played through revengeance more than a few times already and i have been wanting a harder challenge

but not like

Ball-busting

(Looking at you eternity mode)

[fair geode]

gg

such an absurd weapon

[grim swallow]

All bosses that dont have infernum AI will behave absolutely the same as on death

With the exception of infernums adrenaline slower

[tough shell]

alright, cool!

[grim swallow]

(oh yeah and btw dont use kevin for them)

[fair geode]

i feel like astral blade could be good on folly

[snow sun]

Im trying out fargos+calamity for the first time, does anyone have class recommendations

Please?

[humble marlin]

dont stick to a class for dlc

[snow sun]

Why

[humble marlin]

youll see when u play

[smoky dock]

there are a few reasons why

it’s not a good idea in general, but more so for Souls

[snow sun]

Ok

Can I get a clearer explanation? Because I’m concerned now

[gaunt tangle]

is spooky armor good for empress or should i get another set
and should i replace first shadowflame for another accessory? i got these rn

[nimble wing]

spooky, tiki, hydrothermic, and ooa are all good

get star-tainted generator

also super based for using betsy wings

[gaunt tangle]

kk so replace first shadowflame w generator?

[nimble wing]

yeah

[gaunt tangle]

then imma js stick w spooky

[snow sun]

What does any of this mean

[fair geode]

whats a good pre ml weapon for folly?

[nimble wing]

uhh astral blade and pike probably

hide of astrum deus will outdamage your weapon

[fading dove]

do you have any active effects like debuff install

[snow sun]

I don’t know what that means

[fading dove]

so thats a no

the effect toggler is for active skills like placing down the gladiator banner

wait no

thats the active skill menu

the effect toggler is for anything

every single accessory

[fair geode]

what do i replace with hide tho

[fading dove]

shell i think

its not that good because it doesnt give melee speed

[fair geode]

yaeh ive been thinking that too

[snow sun]

I…kinda understand?

[fading dove]

accessories give effects, sometimes multiple

maybe you don't want some of these effects, be it because of screen clutter, lag, or they just don't mesh well with your weapon

[fair geode]

m

[tough shell]

you're playing souls eternity mode aren't you

prepare for cbt

i say this as someone who beat eternity mode once and then vowed to never do it again

[snow sun]

That makes sense. Should I do eternity Revengance or no

[fading dove]

yes

well

eternity death

[snow sun]

Why

[tough shell]

you also probably wanna get some compatibility mods cause from what i remember if you're playing calamity with souls there's an interaction where golem will just have

beyond absurd levels of health

[fading dove]

vanilla eternity bosses have cal like changes only on eternity death

[snow sun]

DLC thing

[snow sun]

Ohhhh! Alright then

Deviantt just fucking crash landed

[hazy cloak]

What are some like musthave addons for calamity?

[fair geode]

should i get astral armor?

[tough shell]

although tbf i could have just had a really bad first experience with eternity mode for one reason or another

[fair geode]

ok nvm less armor

[snow sun]

The advisor works with the calamity dlc right

For some reason it’s not recommending armor.

[gaunt tangle]

why can i not beat astrem aureus post golem 😭

how is this a pre golem boss

[fair geode]

do i replace anything with absorber?

[marble ledge]

how do i get solyn to spawn again if i don’t have her flagpole

[snow sun]

Craft

Whatttt the fuck is Darkness

[fading dove]

it doesnt

[snow sun]

Oh. Balls

[fading dove]

vanilla debuff

[snow sun]

Bullshit.

[fading dove]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Darkness

[smoky dock]

wait ‘til this user discovers Cursed

[fair geode]

my main issue is uh

dying in like 5 hits

[fading dove]

5 is a lot of hits

[snow sun]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE’S A DEBUFF THAT PREVENTS ITEM USE

AND ITS NOT FROM A MOD

[fair geode]

are you like

new to the game

[snow sun]

FUCKING APPARENTLY

I BARELY ENCOUNTER THESE DEBUFFS

[smoky dock]

two of them

actually

[fair geode]

not for me

[fading dove]

its the 🤫

[smoky dock]

🤫

[snow sun]

Why exactly should I not use only one class again

[fading dove]

lotta cool weapons

also pillars and ml

[smoky dock]

sometimes every available option for a class is dogshit ass

[snow sun]

Ohhh

[smoky dock]

sometimes there’s an option that’s so many fucking miles better than everything else concievable

[fading dove]

i like how ml has never been impossible with monoclass

[smoky dock]

sometimes there’s an option which looks super awesome cool and fun and enjoyable and you don’t use it because ??????

[fair geode]

i could just like beat ml

[smoky dock]

racism i guess?

[fading dove]

your damage just had 40% uptime

[fair geode]

but i need to beat geldon

[fading dove]

do you want an immortal build for geldon

[fair geode]

and id like the folly tm spear

[smoky dock]

and also moon lord/pillars

plus arbitrarily limiting the options you have available is the textbook definition of ‘challenge run’

[fading dove]

this took me to 1:13:00 but i blinded myself and i died and also absorber didnt regeneraga and rare sand didnt heal

no clue why either happened

i need to test straight up just dry cal

[smoky dock]

how’d you blind yourself

[fading dove]

uhhh

tried to use dragonlens to get an accessory that actually did something

straight up shackle wouldve been better than rare sand

[fair geode]

also itd be fine if i did enough damage to kill it before i die

but sadly i cant just face tank it

[fading dove]

you also can't kill it too fast

[fair geode]

?

[smoky dock]

it is not reasonably possible to beat astrageldon significantly faster than 3:30

[fair geode]

no im talking about

folly

[smoky dock]

for pre-ML bumblefuck you just need better game knowledge in general to be able to deal tolerable damage and enjoy tolerable bulk

[fading dove]

ooohhh

i wonder how well gilded proboscis works on geldon

[fair geode]

would be cool to test

but for that i need to beat folly

[smoky dock]

it takes the good parts of astral blade and the good parts of grand guardian and splices them into a superweapon

[fading dove]

lemme go cook up a build for preml bumblefuck

[fair geode]

ty

[smoky dock]

hypnotizing u into a reaver helm morbidly a beast build

zero input bumblefuck

would bk dreadmines work

[fading dove]

oh yeah inf or death

[fair geode]

can you make it pure tm tho please?

[fading dove]

mmmm

i'll try

inf or death though

[fair geode]

inf

[fading dove]

not super well versed in tmelee preml though

im not super good with playing aggressive so it'll be a little bit

[fast magnet]

ok im noticing a pattern

the dungeon has always been on the left in my infernum worlds

[fair geode]

i fumbled cryo after 11 mins of fighting him once so

thats fine

[fading dove]

what do you mean 310 damage hit

it will also have empress wings because i will never stop glazing empress wings

[fair geode]

can i not have empress wings

[fading dove]

eh its just that theyre probably not super good

[empty flame]

FUCK inf tmelee brain is painful

[fair geode]

do corruption

[empty flame]

kind of a bit late for that doncha think

nah i always do corruption but i switched it up this tine

[fair geode]

not late to switch the world and catch up

[empty flame]

is there a suitable tmelee weapon for pre hm thats a lil easier to use than the volcano? that shit fuckin sucks

[fair geode]

sahara slicers

[fading dove]

apparently i fucking suck at reacting to dashes

[humble marlin]

my brain got fried idr what else to add

oh right aegis lmao

[night fractal]

it's basically that or Sahara Slicers

[mossy trench]

dang i want that gradient

[night fractal]

True melee is just hard to use

[night fractal]

donate to the patreon then

[fading dove]

pay 20 dollars a month for it and other benefits

i think cosmilite's 20

[night fractal]

yeah sounds right

[fading dove]

either 20 or 25

[mossy trench]

naw im brokie

[night fractal]

I need to get to work on giving auric tier patrons their money worth

[fading dove]

alright yeah its 20

[mossy trench]

wait why do you have patreon sub but not nitro

[night fractal]

because they paid for Patreon sub and not nitro

[fading dove]

because discord is a horrible company and i'm not gonna bother giving them money

[mossy trench]

yea i wanna get a reply on why blue she decided to

[fading dove]

calamity devs are cool

[night fractal]

never a truer statement

[fading dove]

man i suck at tmelee bumblefuck

[mossy trench]

why is it horrible

[fading dove]

they add stuff nobody wants, take away stuff that people use, lock a bunch of basic features behind a paywall

[fair geode]

hm

[mossy trench]

telegram better fr

[fair geode]

honestly ive been getting to like

50% with grand guardian as a weapon

[fading dove]

i feel like i'd be getting better if my absorber actually fucking worked

[night fractal]

Grand Guardian is great

Pro tip

[fading dove]

nvm turns out its time to go out for food

[night fractal]

When using grand Guardian, hit once with Cobalt Sword or Cobalt Naginata first

It gives you a head start in defense loss

[fading dove]

i was thinking about that considering that it has one instant dash

does ichor work to get defence lower for it or does it not count

[empty flame]

wait wait

is platinum armor maybe kinda viable

[smoky dock]

platinum armor is crazy overtuned atm

[smoky dock]

for the majestic guard line? no

pretty sure it doens't

[empty flame]

these are my accesories for brain, all warding, are they all good?

[smoky dock]

molten skull rose is marginally better than the shell

since BoC is vulnerable to Heat debuffs, if you also use Slime Gun, then Flame Waker Boomts are marginally better than Abyssal Amulet

also generic 'SoC bad' spam here

[empty flame]

damn k

um

[smoky dock]

but the setup is fine right now

[empty flame]

if i were to get molten skull rose wouldnt it be better to jst go for terraspark boots?

i alr have a lava charm

[smoky dock]

No, because Terrasparks don't magically give you 8 DEF

[smoky dock]

Molten Skull Rose does

[empty flame]

right

ok ok

didnt know that ngl

[smoky dock]

it was buffed in calamity

crazy good

[night fractal]

I should buff SoC

[smoky dock]

godslayer dash

[night fractal]

50% more iframes and 50% more bounce back velocity

or something

[fair geode]

best attempt so far

[smoky dock]

no you should just make the dash length so unnecessarily long so it becomes completely unusable

[night fractal]

No

SoC is the goat

[smoky dock]

Kill it

You have the power...

[night fractal]

I also have the power to make it good

[woven rune]

lihzahrd

completely unrelated to what's being talked about rn but this music mod fucking slaps gang

[fair geode]

honestly idk if i can do it

[night fractal]

I love shield of Cthulhu

[woven rune]

doing a hardcore infernum run and hearing all the new tracks is so nice

[smoky dock]

hell yeah it does

[woven rune]

feels like a completely different game

[smoky dock]

don't die

[woven rune]

I'll try my best 🙏

currently farming Harpies for Fledgling Wings and the space track is so good

[smoky dock]

okay actually

i got an idea

Buff the damage

Don't touch the dash effects, just make it dummy strong for no reason

Give Crabulon a 50% resistance and double the damage

[nimble wing]

attacka you. like, with rocka and whatnot

[smoky dock]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-disintegrate-half-life2-hl2-gif-23941439

[night fractal]

About that

It does 100x damage to Polyphemalus if he's in the Challenge Mode

[smoky dock]

If you removed the damage I'm exploding you

YEAAAAAHHH

[night fractal]

But

During challenge mode you fail the challenge if you use any other damage source than SoC

[smoky dock]

YEAAAAAHHH

[night fractal]

reward is an omnidirectional dash that can chain dash between enemies

[fair geode]

god damn it

[night fractal]

Found it

https://youtu.be/2m0Pk0IIfzM

this was such a a peak item idea

[fair geode]

ok whatever

what do i use for true melee geldon

i give up on folly

[smoky dock]

Experiment and Find Out

mechanical skill and mastery of the fight is more important for geldon than setup

and is especially more important than weapon

[fair geode]

but if i cant hit the boss i cant progress the fight

[smoky dock]

You can hit the boss

If you can't hit the boss, then that's not an issue with the weapon, and no weapon exists which will solve that issue for you

[nimble wing]

having tried true melee geldon a bit, i'd like to think it's a geldon issue

but i've only fought geldon with tm so maybe i just haven't learned geldon

[fair geode]

hm

[smoky dock]

no, it's a player issue

i can reasonably consistently get 3:30 with HOAD grand guardian

[fair geode]

hoad?

[smoky dock]

it'll be a different story in a noshit setting

[nimble wing]

yknow i've had pbg done for a few hours now but i can't make the video

[smoky dock]

because of music issues?

[nimble wing]

because youtube is somehow externally preventing me from turning music videos into files

[smoky dock]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/939634824396800030/1228012848286924902/caption.gif

[fair geode]

oh

[smoky dock]

can you just record your screen

play the video while screencapping and then just trim away the parts you don't want

[nimble wing]

i waited a day to get music for duke, and that worked for some reason

[smoky dock]

?????

what the fuck

[fair geode]

oh yeah thats

a lot better

[night fractal]

Giyst

True Melee DoG nohit

(this is a two year old video)

[smoky dock]

hell uyeah

[night fractal]

The one dash magically dealing 27%

[stiff coral]

Huh????

[night fractal]

I still don't understand

[stiff coral]

How?

[smoky dock]

[nimble wing]

update: waiting a few hours randomly worked just now, but only for dirpy and not cobalt

What is happening

[smoky dock]

????????????

[fair geode]

ok good at least this is done

im guessing i need to go defensive for phase 2?

[humble marlin]

incredible fight

loved it

[limber sage]

it's the weapon, it's a gfb exclusive drop

[stiff coral]

They did it 2 years ago

[limber sage]

ah, but it's still that weapon

it does %hp dmg

[stiff coral]

. . .

AH

[grave marsh]

man the god slayer dash is so useless

[stiff coral]

Meh, I see it more like

An panic button

[grave marsh]

it's not that

it's that i hit the bind several times and it did nothing

not on cooldown either

[limber sage]

are you pressing it while moving

[fair geode]

damn it

ig its not bad

but im really bad at not getting hit

[grave marsh]

yes

[fair geode]

i did get fish wings for this fight cause steampunk were awful

[limber sage]

empress, betsy, and fishron are the only choices for geldon really

[limber sage]

make sure you don't have it on a conflicting keybind

[grave marsh]

the only conflicting keybind i have is for something i don't have equipped

blunderbooster dash

if i didn't change it it would of conflicted with my heal instead

fighting yharon rn

eclipse fall seems bad for yharon

considering he's usually off screen and can barely hit him

imma try executioner's

[fair geode]

oh yay thats still not fixed

[humble marlin]

nycros issue

these settings apparently help

anyhow, this playtrough was def fun

WoTG is amazing

[fair geode]

is there a lot that i can use to like

make my sky structures go away all at once

[humble marlin]

dts

[fair geode]

?

[humble marlin]

dont think so

[fair geode]

aw

cause planets are fucking me over on geldon

[bold sun]

hey, is their a reccomended world size for infernum?

[night fractal]

i modded it back in 2 years ago

in it's original form

well, close to original

[fair geode]

anything else to change for it?

[humble marlin]

i would say use bettle scale mail over reaver

since u dont want that fight to go on for too long

and ampoule over scarf

[light gulch]

I'm trying to fight EoW in Infernum and can't get past phase two (best I've managed is getting into phase 3 and dying shortly after)
I originally had a mage build with magniluminescence but that was even worse than what I've got now

[grave marsh]

me when i casually grind DoG for money

[round panther]

DIED TO INFERNUM DOG AT 0.06% AHHH

[fair geode]

alright

[round panther]

I COULD'VE BREATHED TOO HARD ON HIM AND HE WOULDVE DIED

[marble ledge]

how do i get the giant rift of pure darkness that’s covering my sun to disappear? it’s lagging my game

[round panther]

I MISTIMED MY FUCKING DASH DURING PORTAL ATTACK
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[humble marlin]

you cant

[marble ledge]

can i at least make it less laggy in a confit

[tawdry birch]

yall know why it crashes for me when im loading wrath of the gods

theres not even any logs

[grave marsh]

i've died to him at 0% flat out

[humble marlin]

get rover driver over luxors gift and
molten skull rose over that rune

[grave marsh]

and it didnt count

[round panther]

stray fireball?

[humble marlin]

i never messed with configs so go ahead and find out

[marble ledge]

wait is this a wotg thing right?

[humble marlin]

it might or might not be that your modlist is too large for your pc to handle

i have a fairly low end pc and i didnt lag at all

[marble ledge]

my graphics card is broken however

[humble marlin]

shouldnt be that big of a deal since terraria mostly alocates its load to the cpu

a singular cpu core to be exact

[marble ledge]

sadly it is i have to manually up its priority to high in task manager every time it opens

[round panther]

DoG isnt not even hard its just so upredictable in the last phase it keeps fucking me over

holy moply

[humble marlin]

not quite unpredictable but fast as fuck

[round panther]

i meant the timing of the very last dash he does

[grave marsh]

executioner's blade absolutely DEFILES devourer of gods

[grave marsh]

yes

[round panther]

its delayed by a bit so if u dash too early ur dead

[round panther]

rip

im playing rogue and valediction tears through him

[grave marsh]

the one where he spams his portals

[round panther]

ye

[grave marsh]

executioner's blade

[round panther]

mm

[grave marsh]

i'm alr post dog

i'm grinding him for money

[round panther]

its my first time so im still tryna beat him

[grave marsh]

he gives like 200+ plat if you sell off the cosmilite bars

don't do that for your first kill tho

[round panther]

platinum candelebra glitch is faster and better

try it

i got 360 plat from 20

[grave marsh]

yeah thing is i don't wanna abuse glitches for money

[round panther]

respectable

[grave marsh]

plus dog is fun

[fair geode]

anything else?

[round panther]

how do u fight him
circle or ram dash

[grave marsh]

ram dash

[round panther]

dayum
i mastered the art of spinny worm

[grave marsh]

i can basically hit every one of his bites with a ram dash given ik where he's coming from

[round panther]

mhm
the extra piercing homing projectile valediction summons hit all of his segments when hes coiled up so it gets to 9k+ dps

[grave marsh]

also ram dash is more consistently safe imo

[round panther]

not quite

not for me at least

[grave marsh]

clearly you don't have optimal gear for pre-dog

[round panther]

no
valediction is goated wym

[grave marsh]

valediction did like 15k+ when i fought him

[round panther]

??

[grave marsh]

sometimes 20

k

[round panther]

my gears

i swapped out boots with wings for flight time

[grave marsh]

is that all warding

[round panther]

no

all silent except one menecing

[grave marsh]

subjectively the better option

[humble marlin]

oh poor you

[round panther]

leviathan ambergiris makes circle strat more consistant

and the rest is fine ig

[fair geode]

rev?

[humble marlin]

ambergis does nothing but make the fight harder

[humble marlin]

looks fine

[round panther]

no its helped me a ton so its probably just my skill issue

i also have unstable fps so its more of a failsafe than anything

[grave marsh]

he's not that hard to ram dash, infact you don't even need to ram dash him to dodge him

he also has different ai i believe if you don't have a ram

[round panther]

well what do u want me to replace it with

[grave marsh]

a n y t h i n g other than leviathan

except old duke's scales

[humble marlin]

try these changes
reaper tooth -> glove of precision
ambergis -> affliction

[round panther]

mm

ok

[grave marsh]

old duke's scales are so bad for infernum dog imo

[humble marlin]

not bad

they are just

neiche

[grave marsh]

the stamina is the deal breaker for me

[round panther]

wait affliction is just a survivability

do i really need that

[humble marlin]

yes

you dont need more than 3 offensive accs

[round panther]

alright

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[humble marlin]

and rtn is ass even if u wanted another offensive acc

[grave marsh]

i pers use 2 defensive acc

excluding ram

[round panther]

this good?

oops

LOL

[grave marsh]

i personally would drop blood pact, just me though

[humble marlin]

are all of your reforges menacing?

[round panther]

all silent

better dps

[grave marsh]

not true

[humble marlin]

3silent 3lucky

[smoky dock]

look truth is

[grave marsh]

the faster your stealth regen the less damage each strike does

[smoky dock]

silent is weird and fucked up and aaaAAAAAGHH MATH

[humble marlin]

stealth regen above 3 silent reforges gets capped

[smoky dock]

just kinda... use however many silents you feel like using

[round panther]

[round panther]

interesting

[smoky dock]

if you think silent works the way you think it does

it doesn't

[round panther]

okie

ill just waste my 298 plat on goblin stinkerer

[smoky dock]

it's going to improve your damage output more than menacing, I can guarantee you that

[grave marsh]

idk the exact math i just know it does less damage the more regen you have

[smoky dock]

but compared to lucky? fuck man you've lost me

[light gulch]

Wait why Molten Skull Rose?
EoW doesn't deal have any lava attacks

[smoky dock]

molten skull rose gives you 8 DEF because like

thumbsup~2

[round panther]

im trusting this because more attack = more damage

[grave marsh]

lucky is better if you have crit effects i believe

[smoky dock]

no it's because menacing is so shafted by stealth it does basically nothing

[round panther]

mm

[grave marsh]

basically

[smoky dock]

Menacing is to stealth rogue what Lucky is to summoners

But like... less so. Uhhh to explain it in a sentence

[round panther]

i literally get oneshot without any hp buffs but if u got any other accs hit me

[grave marsh]

i personally use 3 silent 4 warding

[humble marlin]

what the lihzhard said
+8 defense

[smoky dock]

Stealth is just X% rogue damage% per point. Each point adds more.

[grave marsh]

warding gets buffed as you progress btw

[round panther]

ive past my days of warding

[smoky dock]

Adding menacing onto that would be like a drop of water in the ocean. 452% to 456% is basically nothing

[round panther]

im an evolved creature now

[round panther]

aight

[grave marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-fucking-get-you-gif-24264380

[smoky dock]

evolve back

warding is like

hell yeah

[round panther]

i learned from my glorious king yardis

[smoky dock]

who the hell is yardis

[round panther]

im just 10x less efficient nor intelligent

[round panther]

he did infernum hardcore

first try

[smoky dock]

yeah and I'm doing infernum true melee

with instant death on

perpetually

[potent storm]

yo i just beat moonlord in wotg and the sky became the rift, and my music became creepy. How long do i have to deal with this

[grave marsh]

warding is basically the best reforge aside from lucky imo

[round panther]

rest
of
game

[potent storm]

bruh

[round panther]

we are NOT talking about lucky

[potent storm]

can i turn it off in config

[grave marsh]

ik

[grave marsh]

just disable the music and play happy violin music on youtube

real

[potent storm]

you gotta be kidding me

[round panther]

do yall need this as reference

cuz 69 crit is kinda good

[smoky dock]

Oh, yeah look

Down in the corner, rogue damage 302%

[round panther]

mhm

[smoky dock]

Compared to your base damage, you're dealing 402%

[grave marsh]

idk how you get 1 hit without blood pact, i had less defense than you and i still didn't get 1 hit by his bite

[potent storm]

yall sure i cant get rid of it

[round panther]

wart

[potent storm]

i dont wanna have to put up with this for the rest of my playthrough

[smoky dock]

Make that 430% and that's a... 5% difference-ish in final damage output

[round panther]

kk

[smoky dock]

Are you sure you want to use all of your reforge slots for 1.05x damage?

When you could use all of your reforge slots for like... 1.2x damage?

[round panther]

just say switch to menacing

[smoky dock]

huh

[round panther]

wait

no i misread

[smoky dock]

no what the fuck, no stealth rogue + menacing = bad

[round panther]

which is which

ok

[humble marlin]

-# 🔥

[round panther]

monke brain no understand words

[smoky dock]

Menacing (go from 402% to 430%)

[smoky dock]

Lucky (uhhhhh -> uhhhhhh)

69% to uhh

[grave marsh]

stealth rogue + lucky good
stealth rogue + menacing dog shit

[round panther]

i have 70% crit i do NOT need more

[humble marlin]

multiply by 3 💥

[smoky dock]

thumbsup~2

[round panther]

expecially since the attacks hit like 2 million times

[smoky dock]

That's correct!
Use Warding!

[sinful temple]

you can always use more

[smoky dock]

also crits are always useful up until 100%

[potent storm]

does the rift go away after i beat avatar

[round panther]

yes

[grave marsh]

you do realize murasama is fucking insane with 99% crit chance right

[smoky dock]

Unless the attacks never crit

Then don't get crit chance...

But your attacks do crit!

[round panther]

[grave marsh]

this applies to 99% of weapons with crit chance

[smoky dock]

i dont know any besides murasama, omniblade and starlight

[round panther]

im gonna run it with this combo and see what happens

[smoky dock]

go for it, good luck

[round panther]

died

i NEED ambergiris

[smoky dock]

why?

[round panther]

dashes end earlier if ur fps is garbage
ive tested and its 50% true

and worm guy too fast 😦

[smoky dock]

think_yes

[grave marsh]

sometimes my game pauses entirely for a second and i could still pull off a dash when i hadn't yet killed dog

[grave marsh]

first or second phase

[round panther]

2nd

[grave marsh]

2nd is just

[round panther]

lowkey if u die in 1st phase

[grave marsh]

hit ram dash key occasionally

[grave marsh]

if you die in first phase that's alright and you can try again

[gloomy wedge]

first hm infernum boss down

[grave marsh]

imo 2nd phase is actually easier to time than first phase

[round panther]

i go eat
ill be back :purple_guy:

[snow sun]

ALRIGHT! TROJAN SQUIRREL, ATTEMPT ONE! BEGINS NOW

HOLY CRAP FIRST TRIED HIM

[grave marsh]

yeah because he's literally free

if you don't hug them

[empty flame]

i dont think im built for true melee guys

[grave marsh]

infernum doesn't change his ai, if you're using that

[empty flame]

i just hit 100 brain attempts

[grave marsh]

which one is that

[snow sun]

I’m melee

[snow sun]

Eternity death

[grave marsh]

don't even think that changes his ai

eternity prob does but death doesnt

[gloomy wedge]

dreadnautilus

[grave marsh]

ew

[wide junco]

what gear did you have

[grave marsh]

also btw for the future, know that boots are basically useless late hard mode

if you havent done a different run alr

[grave marsh]

i wish your pfp image was actually used as DoG

it's so much cooler than the current/eventual sprites

[gloomy wedge]

yeah im aware

but terrasparks are good for the right now

[smoky dock]

dw BoC is pretty tough

[grave marsh]

why is dog's ost so hard

[smoky dock]

I have a video which can offer some guidance on general movement and strategy, if you want it

[grave marsh]

why does the sponge take damage before my dodge

[snow sun]

The stuff it recommended+plat armor, flying carpet, and enchanted sword

[light gulch]

Ok so I swapped the luxor's gift for the rover driver (don't have access to the underworld yet) and got everything reforged to Warding for good measure
didn't help against EoW

[smoky dock]

so that your dodge has a reduced cooldown

[wide junco]

it recommends alot of different stuff so idk what you're exactly referring to but yeah with flying carpet squirrel is just kinda easy

[grave marsh]

i'm not complaining, i'm just saying it feels stranger

[smoky dock]

Oh it DEFINITELY does

very fucked

[snow sun]

Cactus and boreal

[light gulch]

if anything the rover driver was kinda dead weight considering once the second phase started (infernum) I was having a hard time getting the shield reactivated before I got hit and reset the timer

[light fable]

Skill issue fr

[light gulch]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[grave marsh]

imo the rover driver doesnt give enough defense anywayt

to be used over other stuff

[light gulch]

It would honestly be pretty good if the recharge timer wasn't reset on hit

[potent storm]

yall should i turn off wotg until im done with exo mechs to get rid of the stupid rift?

[light gulch]

as is it's pretty useless and I don't know why I was recommended that over luxor's

[grave marsh]

why would you

[potent storm]

its annoying as hell

[grave marsh]

it isn't doing anything

[potent storm]

and the peak area music is gone

cant tell when its night or day

[grave marsh]

ost on youtube:

[potent storm]

perma darkness

[grave marsh]

watch:

[potent storm]

brother i dont want to click between each song with each biome

[grave marsh]

yeah but the music is peak

[potent storm]

and turning off and on music for bossfights and events would also be a pain

[potent storm]

just easier to turn it off

i wish they made a config for that

[light fable]

Luxor hard carries sometimes fr

[light gulch]

yeah that sounds like a weird decision

like the music is peak
why is it taken out

[grave marsh]

90% of the time i listen to random ass music in the ost, unless you want a hyper specific biome the music doesnt matter

[light gulch]

The dynamic music in my back pocket:

[grave marsh]

open frenzy:

[light gulch]

that's a good song but it's the kind of music that starts grating real fast

[snow sun]

Terra grim made

[light fable]

My cousin has all terraria OSTs (including calamity) on his spotify playlist

[round panther]

1st acid rain theme is a bop

[grave marsh]

even better

wasteland

[round panther]

actually all sulphur sea related ost's are fire

[round panther]

u can just buy music boxes
thats what i did for a few days until i got used to the silence

[light gulch]

also the person who wanted me to switch luxor's for rover drive also wanted me to switch spirit glyph for obsidian skull rose

[potent storm]

thats a good idea actually

[round panther]

if ur really dedicated u can just buy a music box for all types of biomes

[light gulch]

skull rose has 8 defense which is nice, but glyph has 6 defense and 3% DR which is practically full uptime, along with regen and damage boost

[grave marsh]

why is last phase before the funny roar of the jungle dragon song really easy

[fading dove]

3% dr when youre taking 30 damage is straight up nothing btw

[round panther]

is that fucking woke lesbian jesus

[grave marsh]

i don't even think 3% dr is even worth it if you take like 500+ damage a hit

[fading dove]

yeah

[round panther]

where do you take the offerings at church

why do you need all that money

[fading dove]

true its negligible especially considering it scales horribly when you reach the the 500 damage zone

[fading dove]

estrogen aint cheap

[grave marsh]

he's fake, don't believe his democratic lies

[round panther]

oh thank god
this is why i perfer absolute autocracy

[light fable]

Y'all think 47% DR is good?

[fading dove]

yeah 47% effect is huge

[round panther]

thats basically half dmg

[fading dove]

you need 87% to get 47% effective

[round panther]

should i stream my futile attempts against dog

[grave marsh]

yes

[round panther]

alright

how 😢

im kind of a bum]

[grave marsh]

how am i supposed to know when yharon is aboutta start spam dashing me in his self rez phase

[round panther]

ultra instinct

have you tried

leviathan ambergiris?

[grave marsh]

when you can't dog

[grave marsh]

useless:

[round panther]

id argue shackle is more useless

also do u just go to vc 1 to share screenj

[limber sage]

except it's not

it's a very viable acc

[round panther]

SEE

[grave marsh]

i have never had a single moment where i needed it

[round panther]

FINALLY someone understands

[limber sage]

there are very few accs that you actually need

[round panther]

yo i think im screensharing

on vc1

yall wanna watch me die to dog

[limber sage]

my fav use of ambergris is deepdiver + slag pauldron

super fast dashes with good damage

[grave marsh]

sorry, there has never been a moment where it would be more optimal to use it over anything else i had

[round panther]

ambergiris slander

guys its not that deep

[limber sage]

Granted, I use ambergris mostly in gfb

cuz gfb duke is...

harsh

to say the least

[grave marsh]

we know

[round panther]

ambergiris is a USEABLE accessory

how bout that

[grave marsh]

perhaps

[round panther]

well im USING it rn

[light gulch]

Still tho
It’s really not much worse than 2 defense
Especially when it comes with 10% extra damage and 1 hp/s regen

[snow sun]

Is there a craftable Fargos items like there is a craftable calamity items

[smoky dock]

i hate that accessory

[round panther]

WHAAAAT
I DASHED WHEN DOG DASHED AND I STILL DIED

he was at 12% too

[grave marsh]

ramming doesnt give i-frames as soon as it hits

[pine pewter]

You can just spam dash left and right

[round panther]

ik it was mid-dash

like exactly on the i-fream range

[pine pewter]

There's a reason why the final 3 subphases for Yharon in Infernum are the easiest subphases

[pine igloo]

Now everything makes sense

[grave marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/aether-good-funny-ability-cool-down-gif-26611823

[round panther]

holy shit is that yharim

[grave marsh]

no it's jeremy

[round panther]

USE LEVIATHAN AMBERGIRIS

see

u get to use it now

[grave marsh]

no

[pine pewter]

Nah

[round panther]

try it trust

[pine pewter]

Aegis has fast enough cooldown

[pine igloo]

I dont like it personally

[round panther]

u (probably) wont regret

[pine pewter]

It's actually really easy to pull off

[round panther]

[pine igloo]

Just use a dash hotkey

That changed my life

[grave marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/calamity-wou-pjj-drbepr-gif-18729363

[grave marsh]

who doesnt

[pine pewter]

I just mash A&D and pray I dash in time

[round panther]

the wonder of u

[pine igloo]

Went from 200 att to 16 vs DoG

[grave marsh]

dog does 180 smth armor damage on a bite

https://tenor.com/view/protogen-proto-furry-furries-kitsuon-gif-18748611

[round panther]

now now what in the unholy name of providence is that

[pine igloo]

I wish

[grave marsh]

what

[pine igloo]

Well i use a glass build

Omega Blue armor

And all meanacing

[grave marsh]

dog as in devourer of gods

https://tenor.com/view/iriis-iriis-silly-chatroom-gif-11543923551961747387

[grave marsh]

who

[round panther]

machine,
i will cut you down
break you apart
spread the gore of your profane form across the stars!
i will grind you down until the very sparks cry for mercy!
my hands shall RELISH
ending you
HERE
AND
NOW

+fistfull of dollar
+ultraricoshot x24

+enraged

[grave marsh]

me when gay

https://tenor.com/view/gabriel-gabriel-ultrakill-gabriel-ultrakill-plush-gabriel-plush-ultrakill-plush-gif-11735481456803170810

[round panther]

are you calling me gay or are u saying gay is machine

[weary notch]

i get why people say tmelee is the best class

[grave marsh]

gabriel is gay

[round panther]

or are you reffering to

gaybriel

aeaeaeae

[grave marsh]

ENOUGH!

[round panther]

have you tried jesus?

"minos begged me like a DoG to not half-court infants"
"i did it anyways while he cried in a ditch"

[grave marsh]

i just eat infants ~ DoG

[round panther]

devourer of gays

[grave marsh]

devourer of guh

[round panther]

dog of god

[grave marsh]

WAIT

i just realized i can probably do the old duke trick for yharon

[round panther]

the what now

[grave marsh]

last phase old duke

why does yharon pant heavily when i hit him

[round panther]

well maybe he likes getting hit

like a good boy

[grave marsh]

gayharon

[snow sun]

Ayo

[round panther]

yharons a good boi tho

[grave marsh]

yharon makes me 4'11

[round panther]

hes the goodest boi who saved yharim from floor is lava

[smoky dock]

https://tenor.com/view/calamity-terraria-yharon-jungle-dragon-pat-gif-10486467131489662312

[nimble wing]

https://youtu.be/LlV3Dmxin-M
@smoky dock Hey, buddy.

[grave marsh]

and being g-

[smoky dock]

YEAH

NUKE

[nimble wing]

hey buddy is an actual quote from the guy piloting the ac in this image

[smoky dock]

wher alcohld

[sick coral]

what accesories for damage should I use for endgame rogue?

[smoky dock]

no ale?

[smoky dock]

depends on stealth or spam

[sick coral]

stealth

[smoky dock]

ah unfortunate

[nimble wing]

okay, i guess i could at least use ale

[smoky dock]

ale is made of literal sand

[nimble wing]

but i could also fight infernum pbg for a million years i don't care

[sick coral]

i wanna use the storm maiden retribution from infernum, isn't stealth better for it

[round panther]

guys i think this is impressive

[smoky dock]

well it's more of an issue because like

demonshade

[nimble wing]

🙏

[smoky dock]

demonshade armor is insanely good but also doesn't function on stealth

[round panther]

[smoky dock]

But! if you wanna use stealth, you can use Eclipse Mirror and Nanotech

[weary notch]

doesnt have a stealth/spam strike
js charges for a few secs then fires but the damage increase from stealth is where a jaority of damage comes from

[sick coral]

thanks!

[smoky dock]

And Shattered Community

Really, endgame is so insane you can use a lotta things and it'll work

Anything post-DoG is on the table

[sick coral]

so what should even be used with it

[weary notch]

regular stealth stuff

js treat it like a regular stealth weapon with a charge time

[sick coral]

and should i use lucky or menacing or silent or warding

[smoky dock]

menacing on stealth is about as helpful as arcane on summoner

[weary notch]

js go warding since eclipse mirror

demonshade should give enough crit imo

[smoky dock]

silent is fucked up and evil math
it's a coin flip's odds whether it'll be better or worse than lucky, assuming your crit rate is below 100%

[round panther]

silent for sneaky

[smoky dock]

demonshade stealth is so meta

[grave marsh]

sneaky or raghhh

[round panther]

i have full silent on rn and its been helpful to say the least

[sick coral]

i remember hearing sum like "you'll spend more time theory crafting your rogue build then playing it"

guess is true

[round panther]

im silent AND deadly

[smoky dock]

this goes for every build

Ultimately, any setup using half decent equipment you obtained in the last three or so gameplay tiers is acceptable and will be able to beat any fight effectively

[grave marsh]

yeah the old duke dash trick is super effective on yharon

[smoky dock]

You only need to pull out the whiteboard and research papers when you wanna start doing some fucked up gameplay

[round panther]

ive been fighting this bitchass worm for so long

does the worm even have an ass?

doesnt it consume literally everything of its victims

so would it really need an ass

[weary notch]

it teleports it to the distortion

[round panther]

because people call the hindside a tail

[weary notch]

so yea

no ass

[grave marsh]

essence not boddy real

[round panther]

essence of persistant guy: craftable with
terrarian 1x
cores of calamity
determination

[grave marsh]

you are no god but i shall feast upon your essence regardless

https://tenor.com/view/gabriel-gabriel-ultrakill-gabriel-ultrakill-plush-gabriel-plush-ultrakill-plush-gif-11735481456803170810

[round panther]

hes probably obese from all that

essence..

[grave marsh]

that's gay

[round panther]

nuh uh

i dont like obese

[grave marsh]

yes

[round panther]

so im not gay

[grave marsh]

he's gay for eating all that essence

[round panther]

im actually the textbook opposite of obese

[grave marsh]

why do you think i keep calling you gay

[round panther]

oh so HES gay

🇭 🇦 🇼 🇰
🇹 🇺 🇦 🇭

[grave marsh]

you are no god but i shall hawk tuah on your skibidi regardless

[round panther]

im not homophobic but im scared of homes

so i guess you could say im
home-o-phobbic

[grave marsh]

that's how you spell phobic

real

[round panther]

DoG DAMN IT

died at 14 again

i hate dying when im 14

[light gulch]

hm
going for maxing out damage with full menacing did a lot better than full warding

[grave marsh]

i'm too young to die

[round panther]

im too die to young

[grave marsh]

what's your attempt count

[round panther]

141

[grave marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/protogen-proto-furry-furries-kitsuon-gif-18748611

[round panther]

but

[light gulch]

EoW probably just needs even more damage stacks by the way I'm going

[round panther]

ive spent about 100 attemps goofing off anf experimenting

[grave marsh]

so you're on pace with me

[round panther]

the types of goof-offs include

spending 30 minutes golfing to find out that golf cart cheese doesnt actually work

[light gulch]

is there a specific mod that counts the attempts or is that a thing in base calamity that I'm missing?

[round panther]

trying to find out how much dmg his head does

[smoky dock]

It's a mod

[round panther]

trying a bunch of different irrelevent accessories (the only one thats been helping is leviathant scales)

[smoky dock]

Base damage of 880 iirc... 5% deviation

[round panther]

and etc. etc.

[grave marsh]

boss list

[smoky dock]

that's good! Keep experimenting

[grave marsh]

not lite

[smoky dock]

okay uhhhh

king slime
eye of cthulhu
desert scourge
crabulon
eater of w

[grave marsh]

what

are

you

talking

about

[smoky dock]

you asked for a boss list

[grave marsh]

no i didn't dawg

i'm talking about the mod

[round panther]

[smoky dock]

ohhhh okay i get it