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#calamity-addon-talk
fair geode
yeah im doing them first cause therye gonna be the biggest pain in the ass
id rather do them at 1/3 hp
smoky dock
huh
that mechanic isn't that severe
I think the mechs have 0.9x damage and HP with zero downed, and 0.95x with one downed
humble marlin
its like 4k hp i think
fair geode
i hate that prismas huntress doesnt sell pixie dust
light fable
i hate that prismas huntress doesnt sell pixie dust
Doesnt alchemist npc sell it? Or you're not using the mod?
light fable
fuck
Empress of light was the first boss to actually give me trouble (even if queen bee and deerclops were the only ones that killed me so far
grave marsh
The
fair geode
hmmm
pine igloo
Do i need to swap any accesories for the infernum exo mechs?
elder nebula
looks fine to me
smoky dock
submarine shocker is number one
fair geode
damn it
smoky dock
shagsitter pauldron is number two
skip like, a dozen spaces
then you have bladetongue
the top ten spaces are subshocker and snagsplinter pauldron copy/pasted a few times
marble cape
how do i enable calamities infernum mode?
elder nebula
how do i enable calamities infernum mode?
you need subworld library
marble cape
you need subworld library
i have it already enabled
round panther
guys is infernum dog circle stratagy too cheesy
desert marsh
yo i havent played calamity in ages someone reccomend me some underrated addons
marble cape
yo i havent played calamity in ages someone reccomend me some underrated addons
wrath of the gods and hunt of the old god
elder nebula
there aren't that many man
marble cape
i have it already enabled
@elder nebula what do i do
elder nebula
wrath of the gods and hunt of the old god
underrated
wotg
elder nebula
<@766511001356468237> what do i do
idfk ask in infernumcord
desert marsh
>underrated
>wotg
<:hdflr:1216214022630936658>
underrated enough for me cus i have not touched it yet
elder nebula
it's literally the only thing the entire community would talk about for an entire fucking year
marble cape
@rare jacinth
rare jacinth
could you send the screenshot of your modlist (f8 twice)
marble cape
wdym
marble cape
rare jacinth
yeah infernum isnt on
marble cape
???
rare jacinth
i dont see infernum on this list
marble cape
it is for me
rare jacinth
what
silver wadi
ok chat am I just having a skill issue or does this loadout suck for devi
rare jacinth
am i blind
marble cape
is there a problem with the version
marble cape
ok chat am I just having a skill issue or does this loadout suck for devi
idk fargos sorry
pine igloo
Is heavenly gale the best option for Scal?, i feel like my damage output is not that good
rare jacinth
Reload Required
marble cape
what do i do
rare jacinth
you enabled it but didn't reload your mods
press force reload in the manage mods screen
should be on the bottom
light fable
wrath of the gods and hunt of the old god
Im using both of them and I regret it
fair geode
NO
light fable
Killed moon lord and a black hole consumed my sun
marble cape
Im using both of them and I regret it
lol i recently found out abt both
pine igloo
Killed moon lord and a black hole consumed my sun
Rift eclipse
Wrath of the Gods lore
marble cape
and ive done 4 revengence 1 death and 1 infernum runs fully with summoner only 😭
light fable
Im in dispair and feeling hopeless
sinful temple
outdated version of infernum
smoky dock
<@412104615941898240> any way to make this fight not suck
use brimlance
sinful temple
by the looks, you have it in some sort of modpack that hasn't had it updated
marble cape
outdated version of infernum
what do i do?
light fable
Wrath of the Gods lore
Idk what to do now
sinful temple
you update it
marble cape
how
light fable
Ig ill just progress calamity normally
elfin sparrow
Best class for infernum?
marble cape
remove and add?
sinful temple
delete any old copies of the mod on your system
marble cape
Best class for infernum?
ive used summoner, so summoner ig if your good at dodging
smoky dock
Best class for infernum?
the best is generally summoner
you can get better than best by not adhering exclusively to one class
marble cape
melee is good too though
pearl shoal
Go to
Documents/MyGames/Terraria/Tmodloader/Mods
Delete everything there
elfin sparrow
ive used summoner, so summoner ig if your good at dodging
If I no good dogging?
pearl shoal
you should not have locally installed mods
marble cape
Go to
`Documents/MyGames/Terraria/Tmodloader/Mods`
Delete everything there
in steam?
marble cape
If I no good dogging?
ye
ocean quest
this is my current setup with arterial assault. Stuck on signus any tips?
marble cape
file explorer
ty
fair geode
use brimlance
for that i need to beat a mech
fair geode
yeah i know skelly prime is easy
thats why i want him last
so ig its destroyer time
light fable
Best class for infernum?
Classless trust
marble cape
Go to
`Documents/MyGames/Terraria/Tmodloader/Mods`
Delete everything there
delete everything??
smoky dock
No, you need to do skeletron prime first so you're better equipped to handle the Twins and Destroyer fights
marble cape
wont i lose all my progress
pearl shoal
delete everything??
only stuff in the mods folder
light fable
so ig its destroyer time
Destroyer the easiest, no?
pearl shoal
that way Tmodloader grabs mod files from steam workshop
and not local which is outdated
pine igloo
Idk what to do now
The rift will disappear untill you defeat the Avatar of Emptiness
smoky dock
The progression I did for true melee early hardmode was Prime -> Brimmy -> Cryo -> AS -> Twins -> Destroyer
elfin sparrow
Classless trust
💀
smoky dock
The last two are interchangable based on preference, I chose Twins first because I figured the longer dash distance of Ornate Shield would make the window to input a ram considerably wider
marble cape
only stuff in the mods folder
ok
smoky dock
The first four are specifically chosen to be able to tackle the next fight as easily as possible, as they each open up a new thingy which makes it bearable
marble cape
only stuff in the mods folder
now what
smoky dock
except prime who's just kinda holding brimmy hostage
pearl shoal
now what
boot the game up (make sure you are subscribed in steam workshop to all mods you want to use) and enable mods
marble cape
boot the game up (make sure you are subscribed in steam workshop to all mods you...
ill see if it works, ty
light fable
The rift will disappear untill you defeat the Avatar of Emptiness
And I kill it after what boss?
smoky dock
all of them
woven rune
can someone explain Signus' stupid ass slash attack in Infernum please
I swear that shit is completely random
the beginning of the attack is telegraphed by the screen going dark, I get that, but I genuinely don't know what determines the side it spawns on and its weird
sinful temple
can someone explain Signus' stupid ass slash attack in Infernum please
it predicts you, you just need to time a dash when the screen fades the darkest black black
marble cape
boot the game up (make sure you are subscribed in steam workshop to all mods you...
IT WORKED
ty bro
woven rune
it predicts you, you just need to time a dash when the screen fades the darkest ...
time a dash where bro
what direction
sinful temple
the opposite direction you were going
woven rune
tried that and he just spawned it on me every time
won the fight but I don't understand it at all man
silver wadi
maso devi is so fucking horseshit
sinful temple
then you're doing it too early
fair geode
idk if dark lance and nights edge are the best options for prime
smoky dock
they're not
something from hardmode is preferred, most likely Bladetongue
I'm not aware of alternatives
fair geode
alright ig im fishing
smoky dock
is tha.t.... a f*shing m*chine
fair geode
i really dont like manual fishing
fair geode
er, bait, rod and accessories? Fishing location matters too
id get the supreme fishing bag but
smoky dock
a bit dark but it looks like a surface corruption pool
fair geode
you need to kill clam for that and fuck off
fair geode
a bit dark but it looks like a surface corruption pool
it is
smoky dock
REAL
smoky dock
well it matters a bit more than that
fair geode
?
smoky dock
In short, uh the fewer 'pools' of rewards you have to choose from, the greater odds of getting any specific reward
fair geode
ohh
smoky dock
If the game decides you get a 'rare' drop, then it's better to only have two rare drops to choose from than... two rare drops from this biome, three rare drops from that biome, five rare drops for this depth, etc...
silver wadi
istg atp I should just tell devi to fuck herself, do WoF, and come back with hardmode gear so I can fucking melt her ass
fair geode
i can fish out toxikarp from any depth
also is it just really rare? cause i got like 30 clubfish lol
silver wadi
ts is just straight up not a pre-WoF boss
smoky dock
I have no clue
sinful temple
istg atp I should just tell devi to fuck herself, do WoF, and come back with har...
let me guess, the axe swing?
smoky dock
I know it's not a 'legendary' drop
fair geode
also im doing just tools and weapons to limit the pool further
silver wadi
no
sinful temple
oh
silver wadi
the axe swing isn't the worst
sinful temple
which attack?
silver wadi
mainly her fuckin hearts with the lasers
fucking hate those because of the slight angle on each of them
fair geode
ok cool
sinful temple
oh yeah that one 
smoky dock
also im doing just tools and weapons to limit the pool further
no, that's not how it works
I'm 90% sure the fishing machine just simulates a catch every so often, then voids what it doesn't like
silver wadi
so even when I try to properly dodge I still sometimes get clipped if I'm not 500 miles away
sinful temple
yeah that one is just kinda hard
silver wadi
oh yeah and the skulls are really fun
if I run out of flight in phase 2 with the skull walls I'm just fucked
fair geode
oh why is it so small
smoky dock
what did you expect?
limber sage
they expect it to have a built in tungsten enchant 
fair geode
what did you expect?
idk something akin to what they did to pre rework blade of grass
smoky dock
alas, no
smoky dock
exit the world and rejoin to make him fuck off
silver wadi
yeah that one is just kinda hard
like just straight up I'm not getting through that much health with a fuckin black anurian before I die
if it werent for her just healing half her fuckin health bar it'd be pretty reasonably doable
timber hazel
Is there a way to get to the infernum providence arena faster? The beds nearby don't seem to work
sinful temple
Is there a way to get to the infernum providence arena faster? The beds nearby d...
wayfinder
grab the thing below where you spawn guards
sinful temple
fair geode
gg
fair geode
exit the world and rejoin to make him fuck off
is bladetounge viable for brimmy?
smoky dock
Yes, meta
smoky dock
upgrade your wings to Flame... or anything post-mech1
humble marlin
bone wings :cluebed:
fair geode
upgrade your wings to Flame... or anything post-mech1
and thats it?
smoky dock
i mean, there are more suggestions one can make
post-mech1 opens up a lot of things. I think
humble marlin
oh wow thats neat WoTG
pine igloo
oh wow thats neat WoTG
The winter of pain and suffering
silver wadi
ok what the fuck
why tf does the WoF's lasers inflict burning
not on fire
burning, the fuckin debuff from touching hellstone
and not only does it do that, but there's no immunity because obsidian skin and terraspark don't prevent it
AND fargo's DoT protection doesn't prevent you from dying to it either
fucking bullshit
nimble wing
why tf does the WoF's lasers inflict burning
is this maso
silver wadi
yes
this is in fact maso
what pisses me off is the fact the fuckin debuff can't be blocked by anything
silver wadi
masodeath
nimble wing
i'm having it looked at
gaunt tangle
duo whip firecracker or cool whip w ancient ice chunk
silver wadi
i'm having it looked at
ty because this shit is completely invalidating my defense
doesn't matter that my armor reduces the laser dmg to 1 when the DoT still does like 20
and I even tried obsidian to make myself immune to fire DoT, and it kinda worked? but not consistently
silver wadi
it does
that's what I'm getting at
it doesn't matter that I have enough defense to facetank the lasers when they still apply damage that goes through my defense
gaunt tangle
duo whip firecracker or cool whip w ancient ice chunk
^^ i cant tell if duo whip is good for pre mechs
grave marsh
what boss is this
silver wadi
wall
grave marsh
wof?
fair geode
gg
limber sage
yeah what other wall would there be
wall of fishron
silver wadi
fucking 2k health left
literally could not get a single fucking hit in because it was just spamming every fucking attack
smoky dock
Bingo, yep
light fable
yeah what other wall would there be
Wall of calamitas
fair geode
Bingo, yep
is cryo stone worth using with avalanche?
fair geode
for as specifically
smoky dock
For AS specifically it has the best chance of being relevant
grave marsh
is cryo stone worth using with avalanche?
pov kelvin
smoky dock
Not sure if like...
fair geode
ill try it
light fable
generic offensive/defensive/mobility accessory #55
Using all of the accessories at the same time>>>
smoky dock
oh boy oh boy that fucking craw carapace is really going to make your killtimes hit that sub-3:00 benchmark
grave marsh
generic offensive/defensive/mobility accessory #55
what about generic offenseive/defensive/mobility accessory #72
smoky dock
viable alternative
silver wadi
killing whoever designed this fight
grave marsh
killing whoever designed this fight
just don't let him touchy touchy you
silver wadi
yeah lets just have wall cycle literally every attack in like 5 seconds, that's what we call counterplay
you need to see masodeath wall if you wanna fuckin say that
grave marsh
send
tardy cedar
killing whoever designed this fight
lmao
grave marsh
tardy cedar
I love Fargo's wof
grave marsh
what about double boss wof
tardy cedar
what's that
tardy cedar
so the opposite wof goes backwards?
grave marsh
one goes forwards one goes backwards
tardy cedar
sounds simple
grave marsh
it looks cooler than it actually is
cedar laurel
Make it force you to use magic mirror at 1% hp (desperation phase)
silver wadi
I love fargo's wall of flesh until the last 5% where it just decides it's gonna fucking use every attack all at once
tardy cedar
reminds me my idea of making Cube of flesh in Minecraft
silver wadi
when I say I love fargos wall I mean eternity wall
because eternity wall is actually fun
maso wall is abysmal dogshit
tardy cedar
I love fargo's wall of flesh until the last 5% where it just decides it's gonna ...
try skipping it with axe
cedar laurel
Now overload it
grave marsh
imo infernum wall is also kinda ass
tardy cedar
infernum wof is a snorefest
grave marsh
exactly my point
tardy cedar
same with qb too for me
grave marsh
queen bee?
silver wadi
what fuckin axe
grave marsh
honestly just give her the flu so she becomes plaguebringer goliath
silver wadi
whole fuckin reason I started doing wall is because deviant was even fucking worse
fair geode
oh god
tardy cedar
what fuckin axe
nekomi armor set bonus
fair geode
not close at all
fair geode
no he dont
fair geode
For AS specifically it has the best chance of being relevant
i got frost flare and cryostone mixed up i meant frost flare
smoky dock
OH lol
lmao no
frost flare is a really niche pick and I wouldn't ever consider it unless you really know what you're doing
smoky dock
cryo stone is the same case. don't bring it to boss fights unless you're certain
Cryo stone for non-boss content is incredible tho
fair geode
hm
smoky dock
call that shit the Turbo Tesla
light fable
https://tenor.com/view/y3ongi-watermelon-gif-21033179
First thing I see after eating 6 slices of watermelon btw
fair geode
god
smoky dock
it's buggy right now
jump into the portal and, while you're inside, open the settings menu or pause or somehting
for some reason that makes it work...
random moon
Huh
smoky dock
subshocker is
fair geode
no but like
smoky dock
Just... don't deal damage when you're gonna trade
Only attempt to whack the bad guy when it's safe to
fair geode
i just dont like the twins fight in general
smoky dock
Yeah twins true melee is kinda obnoxious
fair geode
Just... don't deal damage when you're gonna trade
Only attempt to whack the bad ...
which is basically never
smoky dock
You can donk the hell out of destroyer though
fair geode
sure
smoky dock
dest vs. twins is pretty interchangable, assuming you play as if you have a standard human's intelligence
limber sage
my brain when I go melee: Uh uh! Me stronk! Me smash!
gaunt tangle
when stacking cool whip w firecracker what do i use as my main whip
and how often do i use secondary whip
im using ice chunks as main staff w one caustic summon
smoky dock
when stacking cool whip w firecracker what do i use as my main whip
and how ofte...
luckily this is SUPER easy to glean compared to most other combinations of whips
Your main whip is Firecracker (its tag damage bonus expires after just one minion hit, which means the tag bonus must be reapplied constantly)
fair geode
boom
gaunt tangle
Your main whip is Firecracker (its tag damage bonus expires after just one minio...
yeah makes sense
and use cool whip how often?
smoky dock
Your secondary whip is Cool Whip (the tag bonus effect lasts a reasonably long time, so you can afford to not use it for some time)
Just use the Cool Whip again when the status effect representing the snowflake minion expires
gaunt tangle
ok thanks sm
smoky dock
👍
for future reference though
most whip tag bonuses last for exactly 4 seconds, and will overwrite the oldest tag bonus if you attempt to apply more than 3
So when stacking in the future, just make sure that every whip hits the target at least once every 4 seconds. Firecracker is the only exception to this
gaunt tangle
ok yeah thanks
limber sage
So when stacking in the future, just make sure that every whip hits the target a...
what about dark harvest
fair geode
and obviously titatium armor?
smoky dock
give me a sec and i'll show off a 0:06 killtime for destroyer with subshocker
woven rune
Adamantite probably better
smoky dock
and obviously titatium armor?
no, titanium is just flat out bad
woven rune
basically this
technically invalid since my buffs are better than they should be here but the general idea is the same
smoky dock
The viable armor sets at this point are:
Adamantite
Mollusk
Mollusk w/ Titanium Mask
Crystal Assassin
Squire
Frost
Mythril
Orichalcum
Very rarely Titan Heart
fair geode
no, titanium is just flat out bad
oh?
woven rune
yeah Titanium isn't good lol
smoky dock
unfortunately Titanium wasn't really changed in Calamity
the stock ore armors got changed by Calamity and buffed as a result (hence why Cobalt, Mythril and Adamantite are relevant)
woven rune
yep
smoky dock
Palladium was great to begin with and Orichalcum is a generalist set with a niche set bonus
smoky dock
Titanium has numbers and that's it
The shards were bad in vanilla and are unchanged in Calamity (so still bad)
gaunt tangle
i got a godly forge on my ice chunk staff? do i keep this not sure how this happened as its a summon
unless it js counts as a universal item
smoky dock
Unfortunately Calamity armor sets and the buffed ore sets are like, better
smoky dock
i got a godly forge on my ice chunk staff? do i keep this not sure how this happ...
????
very weird
woven rune
Calamity ore sets are very good in general
smoky dock
maybe i'll check to see if it happens to me too
woven rune
Like Lead armor giving you kb immunity?
smoky dock
Calamity ore sets are very good in general
they are!!!
gaunt tangle
i mean i should keep this no?
smoky dock
I love that calamity actually made ore armors relevant
woven rune
same
I love that the ore armors aren't strictly better than each other depending on tier as well
Like Platinum vs Lead armor
smoky dock
i mean i should keep this no?
well, unfortunately it's not great
it might be expensive to reforge so it's OK to keep
but the knockback and crits aren't very helpful, and Ruthless provides 18% damage instead of 16%
woven rune
You could totally make an argument for either armor being better and thats awesome
smoky dock
I love that the ore armors aren't strictly better than each other depending on t...
Yeah! Copper and Tin too
woven rune
Gold armor's kinda wack though iirc
smoky dock
I learned that Tungsten armor is actually like, kinda yuge
woven rune
Isn't it just enemies drop more money or smth
gaunt tangle
well, unfortunately it's not great
it might be expensive to reforge so it's OK t...
so i should go for ruthless and not mythical?
smoky dock
Gold armor's kinda wack though iirc
it's better for farming
woven rune
so i should go for ruthless and not mythical?
generally yes
smoky dock
so i should go for ruthless and not mythical?
ruthless is just generally better because mythical's other benefits aren't really... very helpful
woven rune
Some summons have the same damage whether its Mythical or Ruthless but the latter is usually better
gaunt tangle
got ruthless the first forge after
woven rune
ruthless is just generally better because mythical's other benefits aren't reall...
yep
gaunt tangle
blessed
smoky dock
might as well just take the extra 2%, yeah?
fair geode
ok so im guessing this is good?
smoky dock
yeppers
gaunt tangle
is ruthless also the best for whips
js got ruthless on both whips
first try
dang
woven rune
ok so im guessing this is good?
lowk Evasion Scarf -> Amalgamated Brain if you don't need the dash
smoky dock
nah, whips definitely want Godly or Legendary... depending on if they can get legendary or not
Whips benefit from size and speed iirc
woven rune
Some whips can't get Legendary?
fair geode
LMAO
smoky dock
I don't remember, I don't use summoner often
smoky dock
I don't use melee, rang*r, mage, summoner or rogue much
fair geode
ok cool
woven rune
I don't use melee, rang*r, mage, summoner or rogue much
censor m*ge bro
smoky dock
SLAMSPLINTER PAULDRON 
woven rune
SLAMSPLINTER PAULDRON <:LETSFUCKINGGOOOO:750965042123636757>
who the hell balanced that thing
bro
smoky dock
oh b tw
woven rune
its SO strong for no reason
woven rune
tell me
woven rune
how
smoky dock
woven rune
nohitting a boss with slagsplitter cheese is crazy tf
smoky dock
brother you don't know the half of it
woven rune
nah actually how the hell
smoky dock
anyways pauldron deals "classless" damage. "Classless" damage of its type will scale based on whichever class' damage% is highest at the moment.
woven rune
LOL
smoky dock
Rogue damage counts
If rogue damage is highest, it will copy rogue's damage bonus
Stealth is just a stacking damage% bonus
It's totally reasonable for rogues to exceed 400% damage by a very wide margin
So, just use pauldron while stealth is full
smoky dock
It's being patched next update so go quick👍
woven rune
I'll do the Psycho Knife trick first
woven rune
It's being patched next update so go quick👍
yeah fair enough 💀
smoky dock
Psycho Knife is not being patched
woven rune
"go quick" like I won't be waiting 6 months
smoky dock
Because it's really, really funny
woven rune
💔
fair geode
anything else i need for plant?
gaunt tangle
did they js mess up by removing ice chunks here?
woven rune
don't need Evasion Scarf and Ornate Shield
smoky dock
no not really
smoky dock
did they js mess up by removing ice chunks here?
ice chunks are just generally inferior to deepsea and sanguines because the latter two are not unionized and actually function the way they're supposed to
gaunt tangle
ice chunks are just generally inferior to deepsea and sanguines because the latt...
yeah but i thought ice chunks were better then caustic staff
fair geode
no not really
sub shocker for plant too?
gaunt tangle
and before beating any mech boss it should be good for all of them no?
smoky dock
yeah but i thought ice chunks were better then caustic staff
caustic dragons are support minions and not intended nor capable of being your primary damage output
gaunt tangle
ohh yeah so u just keep a caustic dragon then use the deepsea staff?
smoky dock
Yeah
gaunt tangle
ok yeah thanks
smoky dock
sub shocker for plant too?
Yeah
But it's always a good idea to experiment and do some other weapons for a bit, just cuz like
yeah
woven rune
sub shocker for plant too?
are you trying to cheese her or actually fight her
fair geode
dont really care
woven rune
then yeah Subshocker will shred her
smoky dock
also did you beat calclone?
or are you skipping her
because uhhh
brimstone flask is pretty coolio
woven rune
brimstone flask is pretty coolio
how
30 dps DoT can't be better than Ichor/Crumbling
surely
smoky dock
well Plantera is vulnerable to Heat debuffs so it's secretly 60 DPS
woven rune
even then
smoky dock
but Slime Gun is also completely free and forces debuff vulnerability so it's secretly 90 DPS
smoky dock
ichor and crumbles don't really do nearly as much anyways
ichor, if you strip down all the nuance which makes it stupid complicated, is essentially just adding 5 extra damage to all hits after every other damage calculation
but before crits are applied
best case scenario you'd need to crit three times per second or hit normally six times per second for it to beat a standard 30 DPS debuff, assuming you hit consistently through the entire fight
crumbling multiplies bad guy DR by 0.92x so uhhhhh
Plantera's 15% DR becomes...
woven rune
like 14 lol
smoky dock
13.8% DR
woven rune
so you're telling me smth like Flask of Holy Flames isn't worthless?
or maybe not since isn't like damn near every post-ML boss immune to it
fair geode
damn it
woven rune
Prov, Polter, DoG, etc
smoky dock
so you're telling me smth like Flask of Holy Flames *isn't* worthless?
no it's worthless
woven rune
word
smoky dock
I've found one use case for Holy Flames
smoky dock
and that's true melee Dragonfolly
fair geode
yeah
woven rune
Slagsplitter ram dash cheese works wonders for her
woven rune
Do not cite the dark ones.
we dont fw Inferna Cutter??
smoky dock
No, unfortunately
woven rune
why not gang
smoky dock
The game is like, really, really bad at figuring out wtf is true melee and what isn't
smoky dock
Inferna Cutter has the true melee damage type but also flings projectiles everywhere, even if you miss
Which is by definiton not true melee
woven rune
I meannn
smoky dock
Ultima Cleaver used to also have that issue but it got fixed
Old Lord Claymore has that issue today
woven rune
ok on the flask topic
smoky dock
okay yeah
woven rune
if Holy Flames is useless then what flask should you be using at each stage of the game
smoky dock
and that's true melee Dragonfolly
this is the only time I can fathom it working
woven rune
and why if u can explain that**
smoky dock
if Holy Flames is useless then what flask should you be using at each stage of t...
it depends on the boss and what equipment I'm using. Ichor and Crumbling remain options from start to finish, but Ichor starts stronger and ends weaker since damage values start low and end higher
Ichor gets bonus points if I'm hitting a lot of times for low damage, and especially if those hits are crits
Crumbling loses points if I have some other source of DR reduction, most likely Lunic Eye or Eye of Magnus... but can still work fine, probably, sometimes. I dunno, I can't be fucked to do the math
fair geode
do i need to change my armor or is adaman good for plant
smoky dock
Depending on debuff vulnerabilities, debuff flasks are worth mentioning since vulnerability can make them liike, hell yea
woven rune
Either Adamantite or Hallowed
smoky dock
do i need to change my armor or is adaman good for plant
it's cool to keep, but feel free to experiment
woven rune
Hallowed may be preferred for the auto-dodge Iframes if you're cheesing her idk
smoky dock
Depending on debuff vulnerabilities, debuff flasks are worth mentioning since vu...
a funny thing to note is that Flask of Acid Venom is actually just objectively better than Flask of Holy Flames against Yharon and Supreme Calamitas
smoky dock
both are vulnerable to Sickness and resistant to Heat, so it ends up being 60 DPS vs. 50 DPS
smoky dock
Also Calamity updates Acid Venom to inflict -5% contact damage on the victim for some reason
woven rune
bring back Profaned Rage and Profaned Wrath 🙏
smoky dock
so that's another reason why it works on Yharon
smoky dock
HELL Yeah I remember yharim's stimulants
light fable
what yall know about Yharim's Stimulants
nothing
smoky dock
Way back when I played back in ancient times, back when Galileo Gladius was true melee
smoky dock
with no opportunity cost??? lmao
woven rune
old Calamity was so funny man
woven rune
with no opportunity cost??? lmao
💀
smoky dock
we need the 100 armor pen RTN back
smoky dock
watch it still be bad
smoky dock
Grand Dad
woven rune
yepp
smoky dock
it's coming back btw
woven rune
I actually did know that and I'm hyped
smoky dock
no earthly idea why they decided now is the best time
woven rune
more hyped for Orderbringer cause that's just AotC but like
honestly lowk I could care less about the actual update
just gimme the reworked weapons now pls
smoky dock
Grand Dad is being reworked too, and the reworks I've seen so far are crazy asf
smoky dock
just gimme the reworked weapons now pls
my favorite weapon is being reworked and improved and I'm frothing at the damn mouth for it
woven rune
whats ur fav weapon
woven rune
Improved is crazy when it's already broken
Infernum Providence does NOT like that weapon
Absolutely toasts her
smoky dock
woven rune
devs actually teased us with the Superradiant Slaughterer release
cool ass weapon rework and SSO has a whole bunch of reworks seemingly just as cool but we don't get it anytime soon mann
smoky dock
smoky dock
doze you can't just blueball me like that
night fractal
L
woven rune
This is your leak
huh
night fractal
(also the visuals are unfinished)
woven rune
Earth leak!!
night fractal
(so)
smoky dock
yeah the rework's still being worked on
nothing's final, everything's subject to change
woven rune
Earth leak!!
Me when my true melee weapon has worse DPS than my ranged options
smoky dock
i'm just happy it's getting touched up
night fractal
it's basically done
smoky dock
Oh rad!
woven rune
Me when my true melee lifesteal weapon doesn't make me invincible anymore (thanks lifesteal nerf) 😭
night fractal
except for visuals
smoky dock
the reworks lately have been really fun looking so I'm confident it'll be fun too
woven rune
very true
Terraria weapons and mods in general have been starting to look better and better AND more fun
Great time to be a Terraria fan
smoky dock
I've noticed that kinda general improvement in a few places
people improve at a skill when they practice that skill??? never would have thought
woven rune
real
half of the reason I play Infernum is for the aesthetics man
all of the bosses look so cool
smoky dock
They do!! And the music's better too
woven rune
Me not using Infernum music mod
smoky dock
but then I installed VCMM and now the entire soundtrack is great :)
woven rune
what's VCMM asking for a friend
smoky dock
Vanilla Calamity Music Mod
woven rune
hm
smoky dock
the Calamity composers wrote music to replace the vanilla soundtrack
woven rune
that sounds sick actually tf
I love the vanilla ost but several thousand hours into Terraria I'm kinda bored of it
smoky dock
As well as a bit of logic to add new tracks when otherwise there wouldn't be any, like the Workshop ones
smoky dock
Yeah that's the one
Look at the different tiers of Workshop
The track automatically 'upgrades' in tier as you place new crafting stations, so in effect it will 'upgrade' throughout the game
woven rune
does this not conflict with Infernum music?
smoky dock
Nope, not one bit
smoky dock
Infernum takes priority
woven rune
are you able to change that with a config setting or smth?
smoky dock
uhhhh I'm not sure, actually
woven rune
downloading this one at the very least rn
smoky dock
Good question, I'll check
smoky dock
fuck man don't put that idea in my head... now I wanna do it too
woven rune
fuck man don't put that idea in my head... now I wanna do it too
Infernum with an asterisk for me though
smoky dock
I've had a run on pause and I'm slowly working on it after a few months' break
woven rune
Infernum for every boss but SCal cause I know damn well I'm not first trying her
Either I go Death mode for her or cheese with autopause and Nebulous Core until I beat her 
woven rune
!!
smoky dock
Either I go Death mode for her or cheese with autopause and Nebulous Core until ...
Not necessary
Once you beat DoG, you essentially beat hardcore Calamity
You get access to SIlva armor which grants immunity upon revive
Use the armor, and listen for the revive activation
If it activates, quit to the main menu and reload the world
woven rune
this right
smoky dock
Yep, I think so
woven rune
You get access to SIlva armor which grants immunity upon revive
Use the armor, a...
true
Nebulous should do the same thing but I'd need autopause for it so I don't get killed while I'm trying to leave lol
Wasn't really thinking about Silva since I'd probably go melee for the bulk
smoky dock
Well nebulous core doesn't get invincibility upon activation
If you get hit twice in quick succession, it's possible to die anyways
smoky dock
Wasn't really thinking about Silva since I'd probably go melee for the bulk
Fearmonger and Silva are both generally superior in terms of bulk to God Slayer variants
woven rune
huh
Honestly fair
Could go melee for most of the run and switch to Summoner post-DoG
two best classes :)))))))
lucid cypress
why the fuck is there rope in the avatar of emptiness pocket dimension
smoky dock
Don't adhere to a class, just use whatever's most effective in the moment
woven rune
which is always Melee 💯
lucid cypress
smoky dock
Armor set doesn't matter
Weapon doesn't matter
Nothing matters beyond not dying so
woven rune
true
smoky dock
it's not uncommon for hardcore gamers to use ultra bulky armor sets like Reaver Helm and completely dysfunctional and mismatched armors and accessories
like uhhhhhh
woven rune
Wouldn't know cause I'm not really a hardcore gamer ig
I'm just good enough at Calamity to consistently not die to any boss in vanilla at least
smoky dock
i'm not super into hardcore so i don't know everything about the community beyond what i've just heard
smoky dock
oh dw she's just hard period
woven rune
tbf I can't see shit half the time
smoky dock
everybody needs to focus and use a good setup
woven rune
Exoblade + Summons + all the attacks she throws out?
woven rune
oh dw she's just hard *period*
Sounds dumb but she just hits so damn hard man
The most random projectile feels like a DoG head hit LOL
smoky dock
yeah, I know
lucid cypress
Infernum SCal kicks my ass though
put like 20 heart statues in there
smoky dock
It's insane
woven rune
300+ defense with like 25-30% damage reduction and I get absolutely fucking cooked by every attack
like bro
smoky dock
Luckily auric tesla is like, so perfectly designed for that fight
woven rune
I basically have to cheese her with Draedon's Heart
woven rune
put like 20 heart statues in there
what you know about Worm Food + DRage combo 💯
smoky dock
It focuses so much on regen that, even if you get hit several times in a row, you can and will recover
lucid cypress
draedons heart, rampart of deities, the amalgam
woven rune
It focuses so much on regen that, even if you get hit several times in a row, yo...
especially with your accessories at that stage of the game
Radiance my beloved
smoky dock
sponge
woven rune
fr
lucid cypress
sponge isnt good if you take a lot of hits consistently
smoky dock
if you take a lot of hits consistently then nothing works at all
lucid cypress
the sinister heart farm
smoky dock
then at that point why use anything specific?
woven rune
oh I see what you mean
smoky dock
I've never plyed WotG
woven rune
I'm a filthy Magic Storage addict though so this means nothing to me unfortunately
smoky dock
dw same 
lucid cypress
vanilla needs some better storage system
smoky dock
maybe music boxes can solve it
woven rune
I mean I don't really do much outside of fighting yk
lucid cypress
like chests made out of better materials should have more storage space
smoky dock
vanilla needs some better storage system
hoppers are coming in 1.4.5 so presumably that'll solve that issue
more or less
woven rune
my average world looks like this 😭
lucid cypress
i should be able to make a luminite chest with 17 rows of storage
woven rune
or even worse sometimes with instahouses LOL
smoky dock
That looks so much better than what I see around here
lucid cypress
my average world looks like this 😭
fancy bastard with your neat ass house
i use a wooden box
ol reliable
smoky dock
any amount of time and/or effort is worth celebrating
lucid cypress
i do that for my npcs
woven rune
lemme show you what I did for my hardcore death run I did like two days ago
lucid cypress
my npcs deserve nothing
smoky dock
ooh, I'll show you what I've got in my current world
woven rune
lmao
lucid cypress
giver of the cinnamon rollyn
smoky dock
lucid cypress
we love well fed buff better than exquisitely stuffed
smoky dock
that's for Witch Doctor
lucid cypress
lemme die to aoe rq to show my house
smoky dock
alternate house design for the mammals
woven rune
I've also gotten lazy with my vanity 💔
woven rune
Familiar Wig + Hallowed Chestplate & Leggings + Magi + Angel Treads + Shield of the High Ruler + Wings of Rebirth every damn time now
I just mix the dye up
lucid cypress
i always do no vanity armor and no visible accessories except wings
woven rune
it looks alr though
lucid cypress
and no visually obstructive pets
woven rune
I've made some cool vanities before lemme find one
woven rune
and no visually obstructive pets
what about audibly obstructive pets
fuck you Hive Mind pet
give me a heart attack every few seconds during a boss
ffs
woven rune
rogue vanity I did a while back
if you know who this is based off of you're a real one
smoky dock
i do not
woven rune
probably cause I did a bad job
smoky dock
genji
smoky dock
i'm certain it'd be possible... do you use calval?
woven rune
I don't
I downloaded it one time and I felt overwhelmed cause there was so much shit so I turned it off and never used it again
brooo I still have my OG Calamity guy from like years back
what a throwback
multiplayer world and I named him Sam for the exact reason you think I did
smoky dock
Man, ancient
woven rune
127 hours on one character is CRAZY for me
most characters average like 11-15 before I'm done with them forever
next highest is my Infernum practice sandbag character with like 40 hours
smoky dock
my tester character recently got corrupted
I can’t tell you how long I have on him, but I guess about 20 hours
woven rune
damnnn
on the whole music topic I think I'll have Infernum take priority cause I like most of the boss themes more there
I think
might just be that I love hearing vanilla Exos theme for the Mech bosses actually
gaunt tangle
how does mythril work in this mod? i beat 1 mech boss but it still hasnt spawned
and alters do nothing
woven rune
Do you have the early hm progression rework enabled?
gaunt tangle
no
lucid cypress
what a throwback
127 hours bruh
gobbledegouk was my first infernum
bottom 2 are class specific
gaunt tangle
Do you have the early hm progression rework enabled?
should i download this mod?
woven rune
my first infernum was like 12 hours but tthat was when I was shite at the game
(used alch npc potions)
fading dove
weak ngl
woven rune
((lol))
fading dove
lucid cypress
im a very object oriented terraria player
fading dove
ive also got one with 92 but was never finished
smoky dock
i’ve got like, 240 on mine
smoky dock
this fuckass
lucid cypress
when all the bosses are dead im done with that character/world
fading dove
ive got an in progress run with 130
lucid cypress
only runs i have a shit ton of hours on are my fargos souls masogfb runs
cus all the bosses are like 70+ tries per
fading dove
also its 335 not 309, foldering fucked up a while ago
woven rune
(used alch npc potions)
crazy how broken these are
lucid cypress
i love alch npc for the convenience of not needing to craft potions or grind for random ass materials
and the map teleport thingy
woven rune
yep same
lucid cypress
but i refuse to use the potions they add
woven rune
the potions it adds are SO broken
heavy moat
dev character 
woven rune
"here, take Master Ninja Gear, Hallowed Armor, Deific Amulet, Dryad's Blessing, and Cobalt Shield" for free
no opportunity cost
lucid cypress
dev character <:Sylv_Derp:945297483578359908>
my deltarune hours when i just turn my monitor off after saving
lucid cypress
"here, take Master Ninja Gear, Hallowed Armor, Deific Amulet, Dryad's Blessing, ...
dont forget the perfect discord potion
smoky dock
dev character <:Sylv_Derp:945297483578359908>
🎉
woven rune
dont forget the perfect discord potion
oh brother
lucid cypress
and the pre skeletron kb immunity
woven rune
5 second cooldown Normality Relocator even in bosses lol
woven rune
and the pre skeletron kb immunity
yep
although tbf you can get that normally pre-Skeletron
smoky dock
you get to wear three armor sets at the same time!
woven rune
yep
smoky dock
lead, too
woven rune
yeah
and Rover Drive actually
I'm like 99% sure that gives you KB immunity while the shield is up
smoky dock
or you get the kobold shield by raiding the dungeon indiana jones style
smoky dock
I'm like 99% sure that gives you KB immunity while the shield is up
It does, but only on hits that don't break the full shield
woven rune
ah
woven rune
alr time to get back to my actual mage run
smoky dock
I have a mob switch, two auto-buggy farms, an NPC slaughterhouse, a blorb farm, a Titan Heart farm, ummm...
woven rune
astute observers will notice a lack of a particular relic
smoky dock
I purged the surface layer of my world because I hate him
I have over a quarter million blocks of just dirt
woven rune
I have a mob switch, two auto-buggy farms, an NPC slaughterhouse, a blorb farm, ...
my man just use a Zerg potion 😭
gaunt tangle
are butterfly wings worse then bee and bat wings in this mod?
smoky dock
my man just use a Zerg potion 😭
You. Can. Do. Better. Than. A. Zerg. Potion.
smoky dock
what's that
gaunt tangle
zerg potions been the best thing ive ever came across
smoky dock
never heard of her
smoky dock
i doubt that's better than this
gaunt tangle
are butterfly wings worse then bee and bat wings in this mod?
^^
smoky dock
using just regular ass mechanics it's possible to make spawn rates overflow to negatives
woven rune
bee wings give permanent honey buff lol
woven rune
using just regular ass mechanics it's possible to make spawn rates overflow to n...
tf does that even do
woven rune
fair
smoky dock
forced spawns (like manual spawning or breaking certain shrubbery) still work
but nothing will naturally spawn
Until you reduce the spawn rates a little, then you get flooded
smoky dock
probably idk
smoky dock
this bad boy gets me 3,000 blorbs a night
woven rune
Wayfinder spotted 🗣️ 💯
smoky dock
yeah i'm using infernum
because this is an infernum nohit journey
half the reason it took so long is because pre-skeletron was a lot of stuff to do and also pretty dangerous
smoky dock
hell yeah it does
woven rune
I'm just mining for Auric but this is so differentt
smoky dock
I really like blood moons' BGM btw
woven rune
Can't wait to shred Thanatos with Dragon Rage as a M*ge bro
smoky dock
trigger one when you have a sec
woven rune
I got 1200 ore lemme tp home and see
smoky dock
enough for half of an auric boot
woven rune
all i need baby
smoky dock
i hate mining for auric so much
woven rune
I really like blood moons' BGM btw
very intense for such a slow and boring event lol
smoky dock
let me get footage of that farm in action because it's so satisfying
The opposite of slow
woven rune
yeah this shit goes hard
smoky dock
actually i got an idea
now that I beat golem I can mine astral ore
I can make the farm MORE EFFICIENT
died to fall damage
twice
limber sage
low drop rates are the best
woven rune
there we go
honestly who thought 10% drop rates were a good idea
made (a little) more sense back when the items were OP but now they usually aren't lol
any improvements I can make pre exos?
smoky dock
okay farm's running
woven rune
feel like its solid except for maybe Affliction
smoky dock
that's right, yeah
woven rune
and ig swap Aegis for belt but idk
smoky dock
drop it for Rampart
woven rune
You think?
Stats are considerably worse even if Rampart's effects are pretty damn good
raven vapor
I love trying to get Radiance!!!!
cant you craft it 
woven rune
yes
major component is Infected Jewel
...which needs Crown Jewel
...which is a stupid 10% drop rate
smoky dock
Rampart is beneficial because it's just Deific Amulet 2
raven vapor
the crown jewel i meant
smoky dock
raven vapor
doesn't look like it
never mind i have the craftable calamity items addon
thats why it's craftable
woven rune
Rampart is beneficial because it's just Deific Amulet 2
ik ik but is that really better than Affliction?
damage, dr, defense, health, etc
woven rune
I'll try it ig
smoky dock
Swap em in and out between attempts so you get a better idea of how they help
woven rune
I just find SCal WAYYYYY harder in Infernum than Exos
I can reliably first try Exos if I'm playing a class I'm comfortable with but SCal? 💀
woven rune
Oblatory my [objectively overpowered with little-to-no downsides]!
smoky dock
fuck I can upgrade the farm further
yeah wandering eyes are bastards
and wraiths are still also bastards
woven rune
summons should help with that right?