calamity-addon-talk

[fast nacelle]

It is

Also Fargos dlc buffs the Wotg bosses

So

Yeah

[raven vapor]

also it drops rock 🪨

[mystic lion]

yay i beat aquatic scourge

[little steppe]

and it makes soul of eternity require rock so you dont instantly melt AoE or ND

[fast nacelle]

Yep

[mystic lion]

what should i use for infernum destroyer

also should i change any of these

rogue btw

[humble marlin]

replace brain with electricians

or slagsplitter pauldron

[fading dove]

slagsplitter 🤤

[mystic lion]

so do i use

splitter or

electricians

[humble marlin]

read what they do and choose

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/960950265509453894/1107498529133441095/930422780124606474.gif

[mystic lion]

but i HATE choosing :c

[humble marlin]

too bad

go and do it

[silver wadi]

terraria players when they play the game instead of reading 5 different guides on exactly how to do everything

[mystic lion]

but but

but

if i dont use guides

i die

[little steppe]

die enough until you dont die

[raven vapor]

words to live by

also is the pearl gun any good

it does do consistent dps but is there any better

[mystic lion]

is destroyer immune to armour crunch in infernum?

[raven vapor]

destroyer is immune to all debuffs

just like a few other bosses

[fading dove]

except a select few

[raven vapor]

i believe spite , enraged , clammed and one more

[fading dove]

nah just those three

kami flu got removed

also i just realised, candles are gone from wofless

[raven vapor]

skipping the wall of flesh is less than ideal if anything

how do you even get the mythrill

[little steppe]

could you even get cirrus in wofless

[raven vapor]

no

you need crystal shards for purple haze

both the recipes require it

[humble marlin]

it dont matter anymore either way, candles are gone

[eternal saddle]

So how do I spawn the GSS in infernum

[humble marlin]

you enter the portal in the underground desert

[ornate summit]

post cultist with solar frags

[little steppe]

sandstorm core at the shrine in the center of underground desert

[raven vapor]

infernum GSS isnt really worth it

[ornate summit]

the spawner is crafted with solar frags now

in infernum

[raven vapor]

wipes your boss checklist too

[humble marlin]

myrandeal being an awesome utility:

[ornate summit]

ngl the trident carries

[little steppe]

thats not an infernun issue

[humble marlin]

slopchecklist smh

[ornate summit]

[raven vapor]

i do wonder what causes that

i guess i will beat it now and not have to worry about beating dog again

[little steppe]

slopchecklist being janky with subworlds in general

[raven vapor]

how come AoE/ND dosent affect it

[ornate summit]

js right click check off what got wiped

[fading dove]

iirc that doesnt actually set the booleans

[little steppe]

yeah that just makes the name green

it will treat your world as if the boss wasnt defeated

[ornate summit]

if the thing being red makes you angry then maybe

[ornate summit]

huh

on god?

[mystic lion]

dude why the FUCK is infernum destroyer harder than literally any other boss ive fought

[little steppe]

I see red...

[fading dove]

tldr just disable boss checklist

and install boss checklist lite

[little steppe]

yeah

slopchecklist is lame like that

[ornate summit]

insert spanish music ole!

[humble marlin]

i love when my mod uses a different system to check if bosses are defeated than vanilla making it conflict with the slightest of changes and wipe progress 🥺 ‼️

[little steppe]

you need to time your rams well enough and pray the fucking bombs dont get to you

[ornate summit]

jst fight it last

buzzkill

solos

like full on nah i'd win

[little steppe]

theyre fighting it last

they have ornate shield

[mystic lion]

i try to time my rams but then i get anally probed by his little probe dudes

[ornate summit]

oh rodue

rogue

[mystic lion]

and then i get NAPALMED BY THE BOMBS

[little steppe]

the fucking bombs

I hate em

[ornate summit]

uh try not going straight up but as horizontal as possible?

personally never struggled with infernum destroyer

just used a aoe weapon

on tier

[raven vapor]

noo it reset astrageldon too

normally it dosent do that

[humble marlin]

careful when speaking sbt destroyer a nohitter might appear

scary happening

[ornate summit]

destroyer is ez

but seriously

destroyer just

hes a aoe dps sponge

[raven vapor]

darklight greatsword is goated if youre melee

[humble marlin]

i usually js melt the fucker in 32s

[ornate summit]

axe of purity 😈

[mystic lion]

so like

is there any aoe rogue weapons that

will

uh

'melt' the destroyer

[ornate summit]

tbf

i used skyfin bombers

and kelvin catalyst

interchangable

[raven vapor]

thank the nameless deity the catalyst anti-tier lock mod exists

most importantly thank the developers

[ornate summit]

eh?

astrageldon locks something?

[haughty trail]

destroyer when i pull out the avalanche:

[little steppe]

subshocker 💥

[ornate summit]

used avalance on him once

made him actually cry

[little steppe]

😨

[raven vapor]

after ML you cant fight him

why i have no idea

[ornate summit]

oh that yeah

[raven vapor]

he has RDR anyways so it dosent matter

[ornate summit]

thats true

[little steppe]

defense:

[humble marlin]

js use debuffs and speedkill that mf

[raven vapor]

holy shit

under 3:28

marked for death debuff my beloved

[mystic lion]

I FRIGGIN DID IT!1!1!1

💔

[raven vapor]

if you struggled this hard you will NOT like DoG

[mystic lion]

ill be fine

dw i got this

[haughty trail]

what is eternity death like

[mystic lion]

now what do i use for inf cal clone

[raven vapor]

skip to plantera , get ark of the ancients and terra blade , parry

[mystic lion]

im rogue

[raven vapor]

never mind sorry

just use kelvin catalyst when she's stationary

[mystic lion]

o

k

a

y

tahnkyu 😊

[little steppe]

eeh easier than eternity alone

[mortal swallow]

uhh I need help

did they fixed the nameless deity fight yet? it kept on crashing on the sun blackhole attack

[humble marlin]

idk

[mortal swallow]

I went everywhere tried everything, nothing fixed it

so I Am just waiting update to update

[humble marlin]

never heard of anyone else having this issue tbh

[nimble wing]

Compared to Infernum I would say it’s more polished and balanced because it actually gets attention and updates

There are some real bangers in there, like Hives and Calclone

[raven vapor]

didnt they finish development with infernum

[nimble wing]

That’s what I meant, yes

[humble marlin]

i wonder how much itll break with sso

[nimble wing]

DLC?

[raven vapor]

i think then they will have to restart development

or they can end it before that

SSO = sunken sea overhaul

[nimble wing]

I have to wonder what will happen with Tobias DS

[raven vapor]

a very large update

[nimble wing]

Other than that it’s probably just new gear balance

[raven vapor]

also it would be nice if terraria's worlds are larger

[night fractal]

Some of the changes I have made will probably break infernum

but they'll be quick fixes

[raven vapor]

i feel like SSO will come after GTA6

because i hear so many things about it

[mortal swallow]

where do I ask this?

I seriously need help, I want to finish this or atleast have a way to fix it

[elder nebula]

wotg discord

[fading dove]

i think your pc may just suck

also yeah wotg discord

[elder nebula]

also that

[mortal swallow]

I looked for it but It just let me here

[mortal swallow]

no

[elder nebula]

???

[mortal swallow]

I used to be able to do it

[elder nebula]

it's in #other-discords

[mortal swallow]

alright thanks

[elder nebula]

technology deteriorates over time

[fading dove]

maybe try restarting your computer

memory leaks are mean

[humble marlin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/960950265509453894/1107498529133441095/930422780124606474.gif

[tardy cedar]

i hate mem leaks

[humble marlin]

eat them

[mossy trench]

can you go from preboss to postprovidence in 5 hours

[elder nebula]

someone beat scal in 2 ½

[twilit oar]

how to get rid of the fog

in

wrath of gods

its so annoying

[cedar laurel]

I think you gotta walk straight

[spark prism]

U cant thats part of post ML

You know how u do it?

Go beat avatar

[fading dove]

theyre asking about the fog, not the spf 50k sunblock

[swift moss]

Is the polterghast arena vanilla or infernum?

[fading dove]

what do you mean arena

there's no polter arena

[swift moss]

Did I hallucinate that shit

[fading dove]

or do you mean the forbidden archives where ceaseless is locked up

[swift moss]

Oh it might be that

[fading dove]

yeah thats basecal

[swift moss]

Oog

good to know

[raven vapor]

umm akshually it is the forsaken archives 🤓 ☝️

[gloomy wedge]

pew matic horn is kind of a hype weapon ngl

im glad i killed deerclops early for this

[smoky dock]

Use it with party bullets

[gloomy wedge]

time for 12 septillion pigronatas

[swift moss]

Might aswell, it's the easiest top tier food buff (my ass cannot spell it)

[raven vapor]

you can craft them

[gloomy wedge]

thats number 5

[smoky dock]

exquisitely stuffed

or are you talking about bacon

Bacon is pretty tough to spell...

[humble marlin]

burger king foob letbuce

[lucid cypress]

the clothier book and fishing book is usually enough to get a 30 stack cinnamon rollyn

[humble marlin]

ive got like 600 of those

[gloomy wedge]

anyone know some ways to speed up a diving helmet grind

bc i really want to go to the abyss and get a depth crusher but, my god killing these sharks is taking a while

[lucid cypress]

are you killing gators or sharks

gators have higher drop rates iirc

[gloomy wedge]

you mean trashers?

[lucid cypress]

or you could go find the ice biolab

[gloomy wedge]

didnt know they dropped

[elder nebula]

yeah

they drop it more

[lucid cypress]

guaranteed arctic diving gear

[elder nebula]

it's either arctic gear or frozen turtle shell

[lucid cypress]

ive never gotten turtle shell from it

[elder nebula]

unlucky ig

[lucid cypress]

over like 6 playthroughs

[gloomy wedge]

wait i can get a turtle shell pre-boss?????

that is insane

[lucid cypress]

can we talk about why the class setups guide has no mention of bloodflare core

this shit is cracked

[elder nebula]

nope nevermind they made it always be arctic gear in 2.0.1

it used to be 33% chance to be diving gear, turtle shell or blizzard balloon

[lucid cypress]

_______ in a balloon my beloved

fart in a balloon needs more recognition

only mod ive seen that actually uses it in a crafting tree is fargos souls

which uses like every item in a crafting tree

[smoky dock]

fart in a bottle is great

[humble marlin]

its mid

[smoky dock]

Need me a mod that swaps the behaviors of fart and sandstorm

[fair geode]

whatever i give up

[humble marlin]

i was gonna say something nefarious but yk what

maybe thats a bit disgusting

[fair geode]

i just cheated it in

[lucid cypress]

it used to be mid

vanilla update made it on par with sandstorm

almost nobody noticed

cus almost nobody uses it

[humble marlin]

not fart, i lagged, i meant bloodflare core

[lucid cypress]

bloodflare core is awesome

carried my rogue nameless deity fight

[humble marlin]

when paired with omegablue its insane

otherwise its just fine

[lucid cypress]

only time i use omega blue is for dog

when i chug so much alcohol my life regen goes negative

[humble marlin]

Omegablue its meta for
Old duke
DoG
Yharon
could be viable for exos if the fuckers were closer
and its sorta viable for scal

[lucid cypress]

idk why people keep saying rogue is garbage

my yharon and exo mechs were clean

[humble marlin]

they are clueless

[lucid cypress]

4 tries for yharon cus i forgot about desperation on 3rd try

and exo mechs took 2

[humble marlin]

let me resend something rq

[lucid cypress]

i think the most i struggled on any boss for my entire rogue playthrough was 21 deaths on dog

[lucid cypress]

i still think stealth strikes are a scam

[humble marlin]

how so

[lucid cypress]

only time ive ever seen stealth strikes do more dps than spam is scarlet devil

every other time ive tried it, even with a proper setup, spam just did more dmg

a stealth build with alpha virus on profaned guardians

spamming did more dmg

with the stealth build

same as lunar kunai and the utensil thing ml drops

[humble marlin]

those are spam weapons qwp

well i think they are cuz i got the same results lmao

ele disk does better w stealth than spam

stealth rogue is like a spoiled kid

[lucid cypress]

sometimes it feels like the class setup guide is trolling

[humble marlin]

give it anything it doesnt like and it cries like a baby

[lucid cypress]

unrelated why do NO calamity wings have fast ascent or hover

[gloomy wedge]

subliminal messaging to do old ones army t3 for betsy wings

how tf is giant clam more of a boss than hive mind LOL

[fair geode]

is there a easy way of getting jungle rose without dryad

[smoky dock]

I think there's a recipe involving the opposite one

I think the blue one plus red dye equals jungle rose

[tardy cedar]

I hate it

worst discovery known to mankind

[fair geode]

yeah but it needs 2 rare thigns lol

[smoky dock]

look man it's an alternative

[fading dove]

i wouldnt call cochineal beetles rare

[smoky dock]

Ultimately you'll need to do something to get it, so run through all the different possible ways and pick the something that's easiest

[fading dove]

they may show up on the lifeform analyser but i also never stop seeing them earlygame

i think ive seen 3 at once before

[fair geode]

what else can i get for eoc?

ok vnm

[humble marlin]

nya nya nya

[leaden swan]

is wrath of the machines or wrath of the empress by lucille any good?

[humble marlin]

they are pretty good

[fair geode]

is this worth getting?

[humble marlin]

from my experience no

its worse than volcano

[fair geode]

oh

alright

is this any good?

[smoky dock]

looks fine

idk what you're trying to do or which boss you're fighting (if any at all) but

setup looks fine no matter what you're tying to do

[fair geode]

got it

[fair geode]

eow prob

[smoky dock]

oh eow is a bastard

but you have saharas so

thumbsup~2

[fair geode]

also reforged to warding

[smoky dock]

imo eow doesn't really benefit from feral claws or soc so I'd choose rover drive and frog leg

wait no. rover drive and corrupt flask

add corrupt flask regardless

legendary fucking accessory, especially for hive mind

[fair geode]

nice

[fair geode]

i mean faster attacks is cool

[smoky dock]

well for eow attack speed isn't super relevant, is what I mean

The daggers will pretty easily get the five hits for a full volley in just one or two stabs

[fair geode]

hm

[smoky dock]

And executing a full volley faster doesn't really save time since you'll need to wait afterwards for a safe moment to go in for more stabs

If this were like, Crabulon where consistently attacking is both possible and easy, then feral claws would be on my radar

[vocal tulip]

Rogue class Pre exo

im sure the venerated locket could be replaced with something else but im not sure what else could take its place

i wouldnt mind good survivability, so potentially radiance, but im also fine with an offensive rogue accessory if anyone has a recommendation

[humble marlin]

would replace blunder booster with dark sun ring

night boosts are the ones u want i think

[vocal tulip]

that doesnt seem like a rogue accessory or anything. Just looks like a general accessory for decent offense/survivability.

[humble marlin]

so-?

its a really good acc replacing something that does barely anything

[vocal tulip]

this seems fucking incredible to me wdym

its why ive kept it ever since i entered post ml

[humble marlin]

u are stealth right.

[vocal tulip]

yep

well somewhat

[humble marlin]

now

stealth strikes add thousands of percentage damage

lets say around 1000%

so 1012% its not much different

might aswell be the same

usually rogue wants 2 or 3 offensive accs and reforge (silent) and rest defensive accs/reforge

[vocal tulip]

fair enough

[vocal tulip]

whats so good about dark sun ring then? Just looks like +2.5 hp/sec or 0.5 + 20 defense

[fading dove]

that regen is big

also gives free damage

2 minions isnt negligible

[humble marlin]

you can turn those two slots into +10 defense

become unkillable

OH
ik what can replace venerated
rampart of deities

iframes my beloved

[little steppe]

iframes so yummy

[proud vector]

hello, what are your loadouts for moon lord in infernum ? >.<" or is it good to do dragonfolly to get the magic weapon ?

[humble marlin]

for ml following the class setups guide in the wiki is good enough

!wiki class setups

[hollow dove]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Guide:Class_setups

[fair geode]

damn it

[humble marlin]

mad worms

[proud vector]

I saw them yes but they suggest so much accessories weapons etc that idk what to choose... so I wanted to ask what people "personally" choosed or liked >.<

[humble marlin]

fair
itll help if you showed your current accesories

[proud vector]

oh yes wait >.< my game isn't opened rn

[humble marlin]

ping me when u got em

[proud vector]

yes ^^7

[fair geode]

gg

guessing i cant really upgrade anything for hivemind?

[smoky dock]

flame waker boots are huge

You don’t have many opportunities to deal damage, and they’re all going to be well spaced apart

So the debuff will mean that just one hit will make huge progress

[fair geode]

nice

why not the uh

lava plate thing

lava stone

[smoky dock]

flame waker boomts are buffed in calamity

They inflict On Fire! with every hit, regardless of damage type, and also boost all Heat debuff damage by 1.25x

[fair geode]

oh nice

honestly a bolt counter for slicers would be neat

[proud vector]

@humble marlin

I am not tied to one class I don't mind playing other classes if there is one better

[smoky dock]

You can visually see how many you have

[humble marlin]

Hydrothermic armor -> astral armor
destroyer emblem -> absorber
weapon: flairon

[smoky dock]

It’s not the most robust answer since you can’t precisely count, but you can still get a vague idea

[smoky dock]

no astral blade? hide of astrum deus? 🥺

[proud vector]

I haven't managed to beat astrum deus yet....

[humble marlin]

summon: brittle stars defense mode (hold right click until they circle you)

[fair geode]

yeah but while youre moving a lot yknow

kinda hard to see

[humble marlin]

😶‍🌫️

[proud vector]

@humble marlin

[smoky dock]

Work on Deus, very good drops and pretty simple fight

[humble marlin]

hmm
use beetle scale mail for armor and still replace destroyer emblem for absorber

[humble marlin]

weapon uuh
either flairon or vulcanite lance

[smoky dock]

Consider Vulcanite Lance or any other weapon that inflicts strong fire debuffs

[humble marlin]

tenebrous tides got butchered 😭

[smoky dock]

flairon should be better against moon lord under like, every circumstance

[humble marlin]

idk any other fake melee at that stage 😭

i spam vulcanite for everyboss

[fading dove]

is scale mail better than shinobi

[proud vector]

I thought of fighting dragon folly first to get the magic weapon and beat fast moon lord with it like phantasm did in his hardcore playthrough

[spark prism]

Which is harder, infernum scal or wrath of the machines (eternity) exo mechs

[smoky dock]

I can’t fathom doing that

[proud vector]

or is he not a good reference ? >.<"

[fading dove]

check my status

[smoky dock]

hardcore runs are really different from normal

[spark prism]

Ok so we should do infernum scal first and then eternity exomechs

[proud vector]

oh okay hmm

[smoky dock]

For hardcore I’d go for something wildly different than in a normal playthrough

[fading dove]

oh yeah i got a 2:11 on inf scal with souls dlc

just from testing how fucking unbalanced this is

that includes desp

[proud vector]

I am in a normal playthrough x)

[smoky dock]

my brain is telling me hardcore ml would be reaver helm, wings and five defensive accessories

[proud vector]

but there is so much cool things..

[smoky dock]

But my heart knows I’d just use hide of astrum deus and astral blade again…

[proud vector]

I have to beat him yes, I suck at dodging...

[smoky dock]

Ultimately, no matter what you pick, you’ll win after a while
Picking better equipment makes it easier, but the difference between best equipment and the worst of the decent choices is not too big, imo

Flairon is very easy and commonly chosen

[proud vector]

I see thanks for the advices ^^7

[smoky dock]

I really like Astral Blade

[fair geode]

can you fish out dark lance pre skelly?

[spark prism]

Wait have u done eternity exomechs btw

[smoky dock]

no

[fair geode]

damn so crafting it would be

i guess i dont care about prog breaking

[smoky dock]

it’s uncraftable

[spark prism]

On non souls

[fair geode]

crap nvm lol

[smoky dock]

Dark Lance requires the Shadow Key, then it can be obtained from the underworld chests or obsidian lock boxes

[fair geode]

yeah i know

[smoky dock]

Shadow Key is obtainable pre-skeletron if you rush the archives early Indiana Jones style

[humble marlin]

yeah an ultradefensive loadout that gave me a 7 minute fight

[smoky dock]

🦎 👍

7 minutes with reaver helm or 3 minutes with vk

[humble marlin]

never went below half hp even while playing like a drunk idiot

[smoky dock]

new challenge run idea: infernum but with a cuncussion

literally brain damaged

[fading dove]

no

saving it for my next dlc run

[humble marlin]

infernum but im drunk and sleep deprived

[spark prism]

U can just like run it without fargos yknow

Oh

Oh im stupid nvm

[fading dove]

dont worry every terraria player is

[humble marlin]

yk what that gives me motivation to drink play the game again

[smoky dock]

if I play the game again it’ll be to fight Taurus

so I’ll never play this game again 👍

[smoky dock]

yo lucille drop???

[humble marlin]

thats so cute omg-
i love the text box

[smoky dock]

Is this when she first arrives?

[heavy moat]

Yeah

[smoky dock]

That’s cool!!

Neat drop, thanks!

[strange pawn]

hello is there a mod that makes biome chests more accesible?

[candid wind]

does anyone know why my game becomes insufferably laggy after opening the mysterious keep for wrath of the gods

[strange pawn]

like i feel like they are useless after planterra

[fading dove]

the weapons are good for their tier

[candid wind]

anyone

[humble marlin]

I have done nothing but teleport bloodfins these past week

[fair geode]

what do i replace with flame walker

[smoky dock]

i’m very super biased so i’m probably not the best person to ask

[humble marlin]

SHIELD

[smoky dock]

I hate Shield of Cthulhu with a burning passion so I would always suggest removing it

[humble marlin]

would u turn the shield into ground beef

[smoky dock]

I would if I had a meat grinder whenever I obtain it

But meat grinders are hardmode items 😔

[humble marlin]

tragic

[proud vector]

mmm

[smoky dock]

they get to live until I beat WoF

And until I get the drop…

[humble marlin]

my brain is asking me to fight genocide undyne but

[smoky dock]

undyne the undying?

[humble marlin]

its so boring trying to get there

[humble marlin]

yeah

[smoky dock]

use cheats if you gotta

or get into speedrunning

Shayy is not only a calamity staff member but also speedruns Undertale

[fair geode]

deltarune was fun

[smoky dock]

The Punch Card is his dev item and also a reference to that

[smoky dock]

What the fuck is deltarune and why the hell have I been hearing about it so much lately

[humble marlin]

true...

undertale if it was modernized

and funner (somehow)

[little steppe]

are you fr

undertale 2

[smoky dock]

Undertale is modern, what?? It came out in like

[little steppe]

summarized

[smoky dock]

2018?

[little steppe]

2015

[smoky dock]

👁️ 👁️

[little steppe]

turning 10 this year

[humble marlin]

aint no way the concert is already 5 years old

[little steppe]

👴

deltarune is like toby's dream game literally

[fair geode]

still insane ch5 is in a year

[little steppe]

it came to him in a dream

also new sandstirm theme??

banger??

[humble marlin]

chapter 5 tomorrow

[little steppe]

ch5 today

the final boss is drunk toriel

[grave marsh]

auto chipper > nameless diety

not deity

[little steppe]

hey I cant disagrer with that

[fair geode]

ok cool i can get actual wings now

[little steppe]

do they know

[humble marlin]

little did tendie know

skylines are bugged and currently worse than fledgings

[little steppe]

you had 'actual wings' available this whole time

[fair geode]

what

[little steppe]

or you could get actual true wings

those wings called Bundle of Horsehoe Balloons

[waxen tide]

I mean skyline wings arent even that much worse than fledgings you get more flight time but less horizontal speed

for pre hm pretty good deal tbh

[little steppe]

so fledging are better on wof

skeletron is more debatable

[grave marsh]

what's that mining thing that shoots lasers and has a ton of random ass bars in it's recipe

i forgot the name

[slow estuary]

Ok I was tryiing to outrun this lazer but when I sent screenshot I saw where I should be xd

[grave marsh]

pew pew:

[candid wind]

i love when a random house in the ice biome makes my game unplayable

i cant even beat sCal or any other boss anymore, im never doing wrath of the gods again💔

[fair geode]

any upgrades i can get for skelly?

[candid wind]

terraspark boots

[proud vector]

i don't understand how to dodge the 3 eyes that dash predict me >.<" on moonlord infernum

[grave marsh]

auric tesla armor

[fair geode]

got it

[grave marsh]

dash away in the slight pause the have before they dash

[fiery mango]

WotG breaks like that a lot

[proud vector]

I will try...

[candid wind]

its not running anything above 20 fps

[fair geode]

anything else?

[smoky dock]

terrasparks are optional

[candid wind]

what class are you playing again

[smoky dock]

they won’t do anything for skeletron that frostsparks don’t already do

Frostsparks are also mostly identical to lightnings 👍

[smoky dock]

Sausage Maker

BBB Frost is advisable too, if you wish

[fair geode]

damn it im stupid

i forgot skelly is magilumi bait

[fair geode]

bbb frost?

[smoky dock]

Broken Biome Blade with the arctic attunement

[fair geode]

oh

yeah im gonna get that

i love bb

[mossy trench]

why are profaned guardians so hard brah

mage deals like 30 percent of what summoner deals

damage

[fair geode]

is it really tmelee tho honestly

[smoky dock]

It fits the definition

But since it doesn't have the damage type it can go either way

It's not necessary by any means, so you don't need to use it if you don't want to. Sausage Maker alone is fine enough

[proud vector]

bladecrest + molten armor is enough to me, I did slime god before squel....

[fair geode]

alright ill try that

[smoky dock]

Oh this guy's doing true melee

[fair geode]

what about accessories

[smoky dock]

Bladecresh oathsword isn't true melee

[fair geode]

no im doing tm

i dont think that guy is

[smoky dock]

Skeletron is immune to debuffs, so drop debuff accessories

[limber sage]

wouldn't the desert attunement also be considered tmelee?

and the one that dashes?

[smoky dock]

Prepare for the long haul with defensive accessories and enough mobility to outrun Skeletron during the stupid skull spin dash at you attack

[proud vector]

ohh didn't knew

[smoky dock]

Feral claws isn't something to consider imo due to the way spears work

[fair geode]

wouldnt technically the jungle attune also be tmelee then?

[limber sage]

no

[fair geode]

since technically you are swining a whip

[smoky dock]

The jungle is really, really treading the knife's edge

I personally don't think it's OK because it's too disjointed

[fair geode]

yaeh true

dunno what to put instead of fire shoes

[outer path]

I just died to infernum moon lord at 0.04 percent hp

[fair geode]

happens

[smoky dock]

magiluminescence

rover drive

brain of confusion

bloody worm tooth

All of them are good ideas

[proud vector]

I am at him too x')

[outer path]

infernum moon lord is a good fight but difficult

[half lagoon]

[fair geode]

considering worm tooth is the most defensive ill take it

[patent girder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1134256922883805234/1384325825188462622/dingaling.gif

meow

[proud vector]

yes but I have also skill issue x')

[outer path]

update, just beat it

[silent linden]

im just now starting to "understand" DoG

setting a dash keybind has helped tremendously and I can get much farther than i could without it, but im still struggling understanding where i should be positioning myself between laser phases, and how to tell if hes going to be charging me up and down or side to side

i could definitely improve my arena but i dont think it would help a ton, its mostly a skill issue

[next knot]

So I have experience in calamity across multiple playthroughs, but ive never finished any or gotten to post ml, so for my first FULL revengence playthrough, should I install WoTG from the getgo or install it at a certain point in the game if ive never played it before?

[silent linden]

you need WotG on worldgen or some stuff wont work right

[fiery mango]

Even then there's no guarantee it works

[silent linden]

but, all of the major WotG content (the 3 bosses) are postgame and most of the stuff before then can be ignored, so if you think you might want to try it, just have it

[next knot]

ok, how consistent is WoTG with the lore?

[fiery mango]

WotG is its own thing with lore

[silent linden]

WotG uses old lore so not really at all

[fiery mango]

mostly

[cedar ridge]

it has its own lore

also you might need a good pc

[fiery mango]

ND is repurposed old lore

[west tusk]

which is better for calamitas/overall, badage of bravery, or the community

[cedar ridge]

are you infernum

[loud ibex]

whats the earliest stage of the game you can craft a PDA

[next knot]

any other addons I should do for my first FULL revengence playthrough?

[west tusk]

yea

[silent linden]

probably none if its your first full playthrough

get a feel for calamity first

then think about adding on to it

[next knot]

Ive played calamity before ive just never gotten to post ml

[loud ibex]

ngl base calamity is missing a lot for summoner

[silent linden]

my point still stands

[loud ibex]

like ur literally stuck with kaleidoscope for half of post ml

[silent linden]

thats when calamity really starts

[next knot]

ok, im just doing wrath then

what about catalyst tho

[loud ibex]

dude wait

its not even half of post ml

the entirety of post ml is kaleidoscope

holy i didnt know summoner was struggling that bad

avid unofficial calamity whips user

[silent linden]

i dont think that really means summoner is missing out

its still super strong just with kaledoscope

[loud ibex]

theyre stuck with pre ml whip while fighting scal? 😭

[silent linden]

yeah? all you need is the tag to make minions crit and to utilize everything the class gives you and you're as strong as every other class

[slow estuary]

do ilusory knives even heal during nameless deity fight?

I dont see a single green number near me

[loud ibex]

i dont think you should be healing on those final bosses anyways

dont they literally 1-2 shot you

[slow estuary]

I literally did TANK build

300 def

[loud ibex]

really? that works?

[slow estuary]

I mean

got me through avatar

[loud ibex]

i remembered last time i tried that my defense got shredded every time i got hit

[slow estuary]

but I just dont feel heal

• draedon heart is maybe useless

since

no nanomachines

[silent linden]

yeah draedons heart and shattered community are both wasted slots

against ND

[slow estuary]

I mean I still dodge alot of the attacks

[slow estuary]

I
forgor
shattered community
exists xd

I have normal one rn

[silent linden]

i dont think healing really works too well, i would recommend just trying glass cannon for ND

you're gonna die unless you learn to dodge the attacks no matter what your defensive stats are looking like

[slow estuary]

I mean I beat it with summoner before

that was shit ton more of damage

xd

[silent linden]

assuming you do a damage build with demonshade you're going to be doing a shit ton of damage

no matter what class you're playing

[loud ibex]

is the lunic eye even worth using

i swear ive done like 20 full calamity runs never used it once

[silent linden]

ive used it a few times but i dont like using those kinds of weapons at this point

[slow estuary]

yeah wtf they literally dont heal?

[silent linden]

yeah ND does a lot of things, pretty sure the sponge also cant block hits for you

chip heal wouldnt really help you out a ton during the fight regardless

[graceful lance]

Why is hunt of the old god not working for me

[loud ibex]

are squids like super mega rare or am i just not farming them right

havent gotten a isngle one in like 30 minutes

[next knot]

am I stupid for doing a medium world

[loud ibex]

maybe they disabled healing

[slow estuary]

oh nice

[fiery mango]

Post Skeletron because of Tally Counter

[proud vector]

gg !

[mossy trench]

i hate polterghast

[loud ibex]

arent some of them hardmode

[mossy trench]

bocchi the peak

[loud ibex]

i wish i never got into it 💔

[fiery mango]

no

[mossy trench]

why

[loud ibex]

im already broke with a minimum wage job and i spent so much to try and learn guitar

just to be dookie

[mossy trench]

im lowk lucky i already knew how to play guitar

[loud ibex]

maybe ill get to your level in 8 more years

[mossy trench]

i aint good at solos tho

i mean

im trash at solos

[loud ibex]

how long u been playing?

[mossy trench]

uhh like 2 years

[loud ibex]

damn

[mossy trench]

the anime is so much better than manga

[loud ibex]

ive seen that

i checked the manga a bit it doesnt have that charm

[mossy trench]

i aint dying before season 2

[loud ibex]

i gotta make it to 2026

[west tusk]

is this good enough for supreme witch calamitas

its infernum mode

[grave marsh]

how's this for a dog arena

[humble marlin]

pretty good

[humble marlin]

should be

[faint arrow]

I'd swap Aegis out, since nothing to ram against SCal

[mossy trench]

imagine dying at desperation phase

[faint arrow]

and Community -> Affliction

[faint arrow]

done it, and will do so many more times in my current run because now I have to learn how to properly route it

[mossy trench]

i almost died to polter rn

[humble marlin]

those who stack revives

[west tusk]

ok

[mossy trench]

permafrost concoction is best accessory

saved my ass billion times

[faint arrow]

yeah I just used Silva Revive for Scal dsp1 last run

[fair geode]

bbb frost is decent for this fight

[faint arrow]

revived don't matter for a nohit tho

[fair geode]

def a lot more comfortable than sausage maker

[faint arrow]

sooo

[faint arrow]

imma be honest, only bbb attunement I'm used to is the Crimson one

which has carried me so hard, even post-plantera

[fair geode]

?

[faint arrow]

the crimson attunement, which does the dash thing

absolutely carries, I'm using it on Empress of all things lmao

cuz of the moon phase

[fair geode]

hm

[grave marsh]

the bad part is that it reaches space, so i'll have to use a pot to disable the effects

[fair geode]

sadly i cant get it but i prob wouldnt be able to use it since tm

[faint arrow]

it's also the Corruption attunement to be fair

I just.. remember Crimson before "evil biome"

[mossy trench]

whats the best mage weapon for dog

[humble marlin]

shadowbolt or viliotric viper

[faint arrow]

are you using mana pots, that changes the answer drastically

[mossy trench]

no

[faint arrow]

then.. I haven't tried Vitrolic Viper, but the Polter drop is decent, Divine Retribution was iirc but idk if it was removed yet

[vocal tulip]

ah yes, totally a rogue weapon here

[humble marlin]

dreamtastical

[faint arrow]

issue with Shadowbolt is it tears through your mana, basically anything that doesn't delete your mana in a handful of seconds should be fine though

[mossy trench]

ig it was cause recipe browser doesnt show it

[vocal tulip]

infernum-exclusive weapons are all so weird. They're amazing weapons and i love em, but weird.

[faint arrow]

it should be mage, but gods am I glad it isn't

[mossy trench]

is dark prism good?

[humble marlin]

have u used jared's

[grave marsh]

is that the la creatura orbs

[vocal tulip]

illusioner's reverie and the eye of madness?

[faint arrow]

chews through mana, just like Last Prism, so no

[fair geode]

honestly i might use it for skeletron

[humble marlin]

yea

[fair geode]

cause it is true melee right

[humble marlin]

im totally not biased towards ilusioners

not at all

[faint arrow]

none of the bbb attunements are technically

[vocal tulip]

yep. they're what caused me to beat scal for the first time

[fair geode]

according to prikki they are so idk lol

[vocal tulip]

amazing weapons. Hope they remain OP

[faint arrow]

but if you want to rule0 it as tMelee that's up to you, it doesn't fire a ranged projectile

[faint arrow]

I'm using Illusioners for SCal

[vocal tulip]

i assume if i use dreamtastic, then anything to do with stealth strikes doesn't matter anymore?

[fair geode]

man saus maker is

way too small for me

[faint arrow]

cuz Gem Tech is gonna be amazing

[humble marlin]

based 🙏

i would use gem tech if i were better at the game

[mossy trench]

what if ima be using mana pots then

[faint arrow]

like seriously, switch a carpet for more minions and no summon penalty?

[faint arrow]

if guzzling mana pots, dark prism or one of the dungeon weapon upgrades are best

iirc

but honestly you do just have to find a weapon that isn't bad and it should do fine on DoG

[humble marlin]

you are insane if you recommend dark spark for infernum DoG

[grave marsh]

is dog's face and tail tip the places you should damage him, or just the entire body

[faint arrow]

I did mine with Divine Retribution, a pre-hardmode arena, and the ascendant insignia equipped

in my mage run

and had a <3min killtime

[humble marlin]

kinda slow for mage

dark spark is the shittiest option for him

slow turning

[faint arrow]

I know I'm insane, even just cuz it suggests to guzzle mana pots

[humble marlin]

chews on mana like a bitch

[faint arrow]

fair

[patent girder]

prism weapons are yuck imo

[grave marsh]

i'm assuming not

[faint arrow]

so do all the dungeon weapon upgrades tbh

[humble marlin]

mana cost is not what makes it bad
its the turning

[patent girder]

only look cool

[faint arrow]

and depends on weapon

[grave marsh]

ghoulish gouger

[humble marlin]

fair point but dark spark's is much higher

[grave marsh]

as of rn

[faint arrow]

Deaths Ascension you just want to hit head, Banshee Hook you'd rather optimize # of segments hit

[faint arrow]

true

[humble marlin]

• viper/shadowbolt + divine retrib portal stacking got me a 0:56 killtime without shrooms

[silent linden]

its crazy how corinth prime is by far the best weapon available for DoG for ranger (or maybe in general) in both vanilla and infernum, so much so to the point i would say it's cheese

[fair geode]

man

[faint arrow]

but if mana drain is at all a concern, then the dungeon weapons are still bad

[faint arrow]

then... during dashes just whatever, to hit as many segments as you can

same for lasers

[humble marlin]

coiling 🤮

[grave marsh]

my defense with blood flare is so high without even using all warding i can survive a bite from infernum dog

lmao

[faint arrow]

during the shadow dashes, you can hit the head if you even attack

[faint arrow]

agreed but I did it on Aquatic Scourge

was too easy not to :(

[tardy cedar]

i can see for basecal but for infernum it's shit

kinda

[humble marlin]

-# you can only survive more than 3 hits if you got around 350 defense

[tardy cedar]

why no reply bru

[humble marlin]

cuz u are a noob

[tardy cedar]

.

[tardy cedar]

No.

eow when buddy..

[grave marsh]

i have 165

[faint arrow]

I've never had more than around 200 for it, generally less

[grave marsh]

including bast

[faint arrow]

even when running defensive accs

[humble marlin]

kinda?????????????????
shit gets a 5m+ killtime
i died and didnt complete the test but like

how is it so b a d

[tardy cedar]

Basecal?

[humble marlin]

thats for 3 hits
not more than 3

[faint arrow]

like 350 defense is higher than my postgame defense

[tardy cedar]

how

[humble marlin]

infernum

[faint arrow]

ik

[grave marsh]

i'm not actually attempting to kill him properly rn, i'm just trying to see how he plays

[humble marlin]

for basecal its mid

[tardy cedar]

oh infernum

[humble marlin]

you think im gonna die against basecal DoG when i actually play the game instead of fucking around

[faint arrow]

yeah lol

basecal dog is.. honestly easy

[tardy cedar]

yes

[grave marsh]

havent fought basecal dog but ik he's easy

[tardy cedar]

I hate nohitting basecal dog

[grave marsh]

just off of seeing the fight

[faint arrow]

which wow, me in my first cal run would have called me clinically insane for saying that

[humble marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/dimden-tudou-mr-potato-cat-dimden-cat-cat-dance-gif-17540821622679248279

[faint arrow]

nah I'd be fine with it

[patent girder]

omg tudoi

[humble marlin]

same!
it took me 40 atts to beat expert DoG on my first run

[patent girder]

tudou

[faint arrow]

took me... idk around 50

[inland dagger]

5 whole minutes for some grey loot

[tardy cedar]

the main problem with it for me is grids

[faint arrow]

and now I'm way better at the game and just..

yeah

[tardy cedar]

cuz some random projectile comes to hit you

[faint arrow]

Inf grids are.. either same difficulty or harder

iirc harder

[tardy cedar]

easier

lol

[faint arrow]

ok the star one sure

but the actual grid is worse

[tardy cedar]

no

[faint arrow]

imo

[tardy cedar]

free

opinion privileges revoked

[faint arrow]

no

[lean oak]

So now snow begins to pile up...

[humble marlin]

your final trial awaits

[lean oak]

What horrors might be facing next

[humble marlin]

-# or whatever

[lean oak]

I have just beaten tsyukomi and now is providence time to be put in place

[humble marlin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/960950265509453894/1107498529133441095/930422780124606474.gif

god i wish i can go back when i first fought night provi

honeslty felt like a struggle

loved it

[median root]

!!!

post-mechs geldon 1

[humble marlin]

waw

[sinful temple]

erm.....

TECHNICALLY...

its post 3 mechs but like

whatever

[humble marlin]

-# they did say post mechs tho

[sinful temple]

my ass can't read

MY BAD GANG

i read it as post mech 1 geldon lol

mbmb, good shit then!!

[humble marlin]

get some glasses flopper

[sinful temple]

i just need to read better smh...

[humble marlin]

showing that you are a calamity player

[patent girder]

its the flop!

[median root]

I got geldon 2 down to like 90% before I died lol

[patent girder]

true i never read

plaguebringer ez

[humble marlin]

the question is

will u be able to push trough the soft enrage

[sinful temple]

only get harder the longer its alive, good luck soldier

shits gonna get real

[fair geode]

NO

i actually cant deal enough damage

[hollow inlet]

i’m logging back on to my infernum rogue play through and i noticed that an accessory slot is empty, did any rogue accessories get removed

[fast nacelle]

@smoky dock hi sorry for ping can you please send the Peabody hypnotizing you trying to make you play tmelee no hits please and thank you

[humble marlin]

how long were u gone for

[hollow inlet]

around a month

[mossy trench]

why wont my giant clam spawn

[fast nacelle]

Maybe something fabsol related

[mossy trench]

finally done

[smoky dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279480813947326649/1279481048098410558/caption.gif

[fast nacelle]

Yes thank you

[mossy trench]

yo deranged lihzahrd

why wont my giant clam spawn

[smoky dock]

👁️ 👁️

[humble marlin]

do you still got wings?

[fast nacelle]

Rare spawn

[hollow inlet]

ya, i’m using tracers tho

[mossy trench]

im using zerg tho

[smoky dock]

<- tech support, evidently

I have no clue

[fast nacelle]

Still not guaranteed

Nothing is ever guaranteed

[humble marlin]

hm
only thing that really changed is wings of rebirth in the recent hotfix

[fair geode]

ok so prikki

[humble marlin]

no idea what couldve dissapeared

[fair geode]

sausage maker is too small for me

and with cold bbb i cant deal enough

[mossy trench]

well i was sitting in total for 30 minutes

waiting for him

and cleaning mobs

[fast nacelle]

SAYS YOU WITH THAT UI!! (Jk have it at whatever you want)

[hollow inlet]

not sure then, maybe i was using an ingredient to an accessory and it got changed so that i couldn’t

[mossy trench]

cause wiki says that he spawns if you do so

[hollow inlet]

i’ll prob just put the precision glove on

[fast nacelle]

Which wiki is this

[humble marlin]

fair enough

[fast nacelle]

And wtf do you mean by cleaning mobs

[mossy trench]

dk first that popped

[mossy trench]

with my brush

[fast nacelle]

Is it fandom or not

[mossy trench]

called dark spark

[smoky dock]

Yeah that's an issue

Unfortunately your best alternative is Bee Keeper

[humble marlin]

either way #changelogs message
this should have the changes and you could check if anything familiar got removed

[mossy trench]

uhh idk

[humble marlin]

(message link so click on it)

[hollow inlet]

alr, ty

[fast nacelle]

Check it

[mossy trench]

is it cause ceaseless void exists

[humble marlin]

boss zen fucking u up lmao

[fast nacelle]

Yes that may be a cause

[mossy trench]

why the mobs still be spawning tho

oh fuck

i didnt kill desert scourge

[humble marlin]

I THOUGHT ABT THAT
but i was like
no he def cannot be this clueless

[mossy trench]

lmao

[humble marlin]

go butcher that worm

[fair geode]

eugh

guess ill try again later

maybe if i have a full night

i might kill him

[mossy trench]

juts got the best hook in the game

[patent girder]

does movement speed increase flight speed

[lean oak]

Could kirby beat nameless?

[fiery mango]

Yes

And his Soul form

[elder nebula]

flying is in fact moving

[fiery mango]

Kirby can beat every Terraria boss

[faint arrow]

yes, and jump speed affects flight vertical

[patent girder]

tank yo :3

[faint arrow]

that's a Cal change so not in vanilla iirc

[tardy cedar]

Jump speed does in vanilla ion know about movement speed tho

[faint arrow]

oh, good to know

[tulip gust]

I don’t like how in wrath of the gods

when the rift in the sky appears it disables all ingame music except for boss themes

how do I fix this

[humble marlin]

music boxes prob

[tulip gust]

there gotta be a way to get the music back naturally

it just dont make sense to me

[humble marlin]

the world is dying

[jaunty orchid]

how do i get slimegod trophy in infernum ?

[humble marlin]

rng drop

[inland dagger]

what do i do about the fuckass little robots on the infernum destroyer

i cant take a break from them

[elder nebula]

you get to cry about it

[inland dagger]

good one tengal

ur doing ur big one

[humble marlin]

you melt destroyer before he becomes unbearable

[mossy trench]

is everclear good for dog

[humble marlin]

either that or pray u dont get unlucky

[humble marlin]

its not good

[mossy trench]

you sure

[inland dagger]

im playing mage and im using the snowstorm staff

[humble marlin]

i am sure

[inland dagger]

is that a good option or am i selling

[humble marlin]

youve got a pretty good option

[mossy trench]

what beer would you recommend then

[humble marlin]

uuh

i usually just run moscow mule + tequila sunrise and purple haze

[inland dagger]

aight bet

[mossy trench]

purple haze is so hard to craft

(than others)

[humble marlin]

cry abt it idc (other option is caribean rum)

[mossy trench]

uhh

i ran out of scoria

how do u get more

[humble marlin]

farm ravager or mine it

[mossy trench]

why would put so little amount

in the abyss