calamity-addon-talk

[crude oak]

cos otherwise u just shred everything

[molten venture]

why

[vale heart]

not 0.6

0.8 maybe

[molten venture]

i mean the damage rn seems pretty low

[vale heart]

stardust whip is insane

[cedar laurel]

Kill Trojan squirrel on first day
Do it now

[molten venture]

stardust whip does 169 damage

[crude oak]

the tag effects are fucking mental

[crude oak]

how do i spawn it

ill do it rapid

[cedar laurel]

Squirrel and woods

[molten venture]

idk i find the damage pretty low

lower is balanced?

[crude oak]

yeah

[molten venture]

how mcuh do i put

[crude oak]

i used them at 0.6x damage and the stardust whip was similar to kaleidoscope

[molten venture]

is 0.8 ok

[crude oak]

so maybe 0.7

[molten venture]

alr 0.8

[cedar laurel]

Stardust whip spawn a bunch of squids that do like 20% of minions damage (no cooldown) so

[molten venture]

woah

alr i put 0.8

now its 138 dmg

135

is that alr

[crude oak]

i got bummed by trojan squirrel brodie

tbf no arena

[cedar laurel]

Try and see if it let you kill deus in 1 minutes

[molten venture]

i barely started my playtrough

im pre boss

so sad there isnt a fargos dlc guide clas

class

[crude oak]

how do i dodge

the trojan squirrel dash bro

i have no accessories

[smoky dock]

you have an item which suggests items for you to use

[crude oak]

only a copper bow

[silver wadi]

the crimson debuffs are nasty

bleed for just being in the biome, ichor for touching water

[vale heart]

is this a good combo with fishron mount

[jade bone]

Best broken biome blade attunements?

[balmy nest]

Biting Embrace and maybe Decay’s Retort

[spark prism]

The spinny one

And the whip

[torpid furnace]

I haven't played the mod in ages, which addons should I nab to spice up a playthrough these days?

[crude oak]

prehardmode is so fucking boring

[crude oak]

Catalyst + infernum Highkey

[silver wadi]

p much just preference

I liked purity + ice usually

[trail spindle]

Does the world ever get bright again after I finish wrath of the gods or am I stuck with the icy eclipse forever?

[crude oak]

just use the debug

with cheatsheet or sm

[trail spindle]

Okay what’s the debug?

[crude oak]

its called eclipse toggler or sm

[trail spindle]

I guess I’ll need the cheat permission slip from the nameless deity first otherwise my conscience won’t let me.

How important is the weapon I use? I’ve been told my armor does most of the damage.

[balmy nest]

What?

What armor are you using to carry you that hard?

[smoky dock]

Demonshade, yeah?

[balmy nest]

wtf

[smoky dock]

Have you ever used Demonshade armor

[balmy nest]

Nah, I don’t like it

[smoky dock]

The set bonus minion has a base damage of 10,000

[balmy nest]

I just like Auric way more

[smoky dock]

Except it's secretly actually 24,500 because it also has 145% summon damage built-in

Except it's secretly actually 55,125 because it can force enemies to take 2.25x damage

[balmy nest]

I’m starting to like Demonshade less and less

[smoky dock]

That's not all it can do

Yeah I'm pretty certain Demonshade is just a relic of old, pre-1.5 Calamity where the numbers were way bigger than they are now

[balmy nest]

[smoky dock]

Yeah, the last balance change was in 1.5.0.001 which moved the minion slots it grants to the set bonus and reduced the movement speed bonus of the greaves to 30%

It is subject to get work done on it though, so maybe you'll like it after the rework

[balmy nest]

Won’t it become ranger and mage after the rework?

[smoky dock]

I don't know

I am pretty certain that the devs are going to make more "limited multiclass" sets like Silva in the future, so I wouldn't be terribly surprised

[balmy nest]

And Godslayer also is limited multiclass

[smoky dock]

Yeah, I just forgot about it 🥺

[balmy nest]

gasp

How could you?

[smoky dock]

i hope sets like Fearmonger and Reaver will be more common too

Sets which function for multiple purposes and no explicit class

Like Valhalla Knight

[silver wadi]

ok chat

I have barely started farging

and I already want to do an enchantment combo

copper + rain

[smoky dock]

go for it

You need to be collecting enchantments anyways, soo

Might as well get started now and have fun experimenting

[grand herald]

Calamity infernum with this mod is so fun

[balmy nest]

ORI

[grand herald]

Yup

I played the the ori and the blind forest

[grand herald]

The movment is so fun with this while makes the infernum easy cuz of that

But it's so cool

Directional dash, going underground etc etc

[silver wadi]

goblin invasion

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doomguy-gif-15980962764398322199

[foggy wagon]

Huh, what's the mod called

Looks fun

[grand herald]

Arrival of the blind forest

[silver wadi]

desert prowler enchant is so fun

[cunning quail]

im trying to get the brimstone crescent staff and it isnt dropping, is there a common bug or need smth in specific, im in the underworld but it still isnt dropping

[calm dirge]

What mods that from?

[jaunty orchid]

okay which mod can cause this

[trail spindle]

I do in principle but I need the damage.

plus its a decent all around armor so I can try other classes easier

[silver wadi]

fargo's

genuinely such a good mobility option I may not even need boots

because I can bhop with it

[nimble wing]

i like how calamity's size buff to sleepy octopod literally doesn't work

[calm dirge]

Is it fun? Never done it before

Can you stack it with infernum? And what class is the coolest to experience everything it has?

[trail spindle]

so is there actually a way to get rid of this thing? someone suggested removing the debuff but I have no idea what that means.

[balmy nest]

It’ll be there for one day

After that it should be gone

[nimble wing]

there is exactly one way

two if you cheat but that would defeat half the point of having the mod

[trail spindle]

killing the ceaseless void?

[trail spindle]

one day lmao

[nimble wing]

that's one of the steps, yes

[trail spindle]

okay do I have to finish the mod?

use the thing that resets the entire world?

[lucid latch]

does the omega blue set stop all life regen?

[wide junco]

not lifesteal and healing potions but for everything else yes

[lucid latch]

so would ambrosial ampoule with it be useless

[past pagoda]

yes

[lucid latch]

hows this

[past pagoda]

er

decent

ig

[wide junco]

not useless but far less useful

[past pagoda]

i would put on absorber tho

[smoky dock]

miscellaneous direct healing also applies

most notably bloodflare core and profaned soul artifact

[lucid latch]

over what

[past pagoda]

affliction mabye

or algamated brain

or banner

idk mele

[trail spindle]

who do people use omega blue? it doesn't seem great

[wide junco]

damage

[lucid latch]

i was told to

for dog

[past pagoda]

yeah

i dont like it

[smoky dock]

The tentacles are extremely strong

[silver wadi]

fargo's blood moon is funny

[smoky dock]

26% contribution from the tentacles alone

[calm dirge]

how do you see those stats?

[grizzled onyx]

cant forget about good ol lunar portal staff

[wide junco]

the spawn rates are nerfed from death mode blood moon spawn rates btw

[grizzled onyx]

viable against basically everything post ML

[smoky dock]

Another mod, uhhhhh

Better Damage Calc

[calm dirge]

oh btw can i stack the fargos enchantment (is it fargos souls?) with infernum

[calm dirge]

roger thank you ❤️

[smoky dock]

No

[wide junco]

no

[calm dirge]

aw man

[lucid latch]

how do i get dog to attack up and down

[wide junco]

well you can but its not recommended

and you miss out on fargo ai

for cal bosses

[calm dirge]

after playing infernum im spoiled and the basecal bosses are kinda boring

[smoky dock]

One will take priority over the other and either completely remove any impact Infernum has on the game, or makes the game far too easy

[calm dirge]

oh it changes ai?

ahhhh

[smoky dock]

Yes, Fargo's Souls is not a simple silly "more accessory" mod

[calm dirge]

is there a specific class itd be the coolest/most fun with? probably melee is most fleshed out right

[wide junco]

if you really want to you can use inf for the non-reworked cal bosses

[smoky dock]

The best class is

Don't stick to a class

Use everything

[calm dirge]

whaaaat

[grizzled onyx]

has anyone here played Deities Curse mod?

it looks cool as hell

[smoky dock]

Souls does so much and the cool things might not be in your specific preferred class

[calm dirge]

yeah but then if the game is balanced around classes and class armor sets etc wouldnt it make it really hard to be hybrid like that?

[grizzled onyx]

Souls has a lot of grinding

but

[calm dirge]

oh

[smoky dock]

No, no, no, what I mean is that you should switch your setup often

[grizzled onyx]

those enchantments are so good

[calm dirge]

maybe i dont play it then....

[grizzled onyx]

Yeah.
Especially with a lot of endgame accessories and armor (Eridanus) promoting multiclassing

do it

[smoky dock]

Don't adhere to 'melee' or stupid shit like that, switch from that to something else if you find something interesting in that something else

[grizzled onyx]

oh it is the fun type of grinding

[smoky dock]

(oh yeah also uh, moom lord)

[lucid latch]

how do i get dog to attack like this

[smoky dock]

Souls also does a ton to make it easier

[grizzled onyx]

screw fargos moon lord

[past pagoda]

dash sideways

[calm dirge]

okay i will try it, it doesnt have any issues with other mods like qol mods?

[smoky dock]

besides, I don't think grinding in this game is too bad since you can just build the best possible scenario to get something quickly

[calm dirge]

i guess so

[lucid latch]

doesnt work

[past pagoda]

this isnt the best way to dodge his attacked btw

[past pagoda]

jump and go down

like go down when hes above and jump up then dash when hes below

[smoky dock]

Yes, it has issues with like, every other major content mod in existence
If you want Calamity to work with it, that's an exception. Souls + Calamity works if you use Fargo's Souls DLC

[calm dirge]

i just dont understand that tho bc i dont know what exists at all

[past pagoda]

if u just dash holding down its pretty easy

[calm dirge]

i havent played terraria or calamity enough to memorize what weapons exist

[smoky dock]

when you beat... i dunno, plantera?

then switch from melee

to mage

then when you beat golem

[grizzled onyx]

why so?

[smoky dock]

switch from mage

back to melee

[smoky dock]

For the sake of example

Choice of specifically 'melee' and 'mage' are arbitrary. Just showing off what I mean by 'don't adhere to a class'

[grizzled onyx]

yep

got it

[calm dirge]

ahh okay well yeah i kinda understand now thank you

[smoky dock]

That's fine, you have a wiki for that

[lucid latch]

i cant get him into the position to do it

[past pagoda]

wdym

[grizzled onyx]

try to use at least a weapon from each class

[past pagoda]

its not hard

[smoky dock]

Alternatively, you can use Recipe Browser to show you every item currently loaded

[calm dirge]

ok and another question since you said you can run with cal or basegame, is it just better with cal?

[grizzled onyx]

some of the fargos boss reworks for Cal with the DLC are cool

[smoky dock]

i dunno lol
I played Souls DLC once and I don't remember much from it

[grizzled onyx]

honestly, try Cal

[calm dirge]

okay so

ahhh my brain hurts

i run cal with the DLC only? or with souls mod + dlc

[smoky dock]

oh yeah protip

don't play master mode 👍

[smoky dock]

Souls, Calamity, and DLC

[past pagoda]

[smoky dock]

DLC is basically a 'marriage' patch between Souls and Calamity

[calm dirge]

roger

[calm dirge]

ahh okay god it

got it*

and souls extras

?

[lucid latch]

ram dash timing kinda sucks dick

[past pagoda]

y does "roger" not feel like a word to me

[grizzled onyx]

unless you want to go through the hell that is MasoDeath or Rev

[past pagoda]

language

[smoky dock]

roger roger

[grizzled onyx]

stick to expert

[lucid latch]

sucks pp

[grizzled onyx]

for your sanity

[smoky dock]

masochist mode is funny

[grizzled onyx]

fair
but still, dont do it unless you are experienced with fargos

if you arent

expect death by 1000 ways

[smoky dock]

you also need to be generally well aquainted with terraria in general

[grizzled onyx]

you know what would be really funny

[smoky dock]

but that's less of a huge requirement as being experienced with fargo's

[calm dirge]

its a word

[grizzled onyx]

what if i made a mod that makes all stingers home in on you like Cattail from PvZ

[smoky dock]

do that immediately

that sounds incredibly funny

Also make sure you increase their lifespan

[calm dirge]

ill also throw in souls mod extras since its there

[past pagoda]

do u think

gfb
fargos masochist mode
cals infernum
no accessorys
magic mushroom always (without +50% damage buff)
with nycros on so that everything 1 shots u

[grizzled onyx]

ill also make them inflict all poison debuffs

what should the mod be called

[calm dirge]

oh wait sorry how do you see the whole The Devourer of Gods - Attempt 146 -Nohit etc all that

[grizzled onyx]

Nycros Nohit efficiency

[past pagoda]

aww

i was going to say that

[grizzled onyx]

very convenient and customisable

[smoky dock]

That's Nycro's Nohit Efficiency

[smoky dock]

do i think... what? which one would be the most fun? difficult? if all at once is relevant?

[silver wadi]

yeah seriously, my main build rn is mage armor so my copper enchant gets increased damage, and I'm gonna use a minishark for increased hit frequency

[smoky dock]

See if flash rounds count as two hits

[silver wadi]

but until then I've just been using melees

[smoky dock]

If not then you can use party rounds

[calm dirge]

got it thank you ❤️

[grizzled onyx]

do you know how i might be able to do that

[calm dirge]

should i be doing eternity death for the full experience btw

[mossy trench]

infernum DoG 25%

im finally getting close

shit

[smoky dock]

my first thought would be to copy existing programming onto stingers

I'm not a programmer, but something in the code has to tell Chlorophyte rounds how to act

[night fractal]

homing in is easy

[lucid latch]

does blood pact pair well with omega armor

[night fractal]

it can

[lucid latch]

is this the best setup for dog

[past pagoda]

tbh

i dont like omega blue

bloodflare

[night fractal]

Warbanner is probably worse than badge of bravery

And replace Amalgamated Brain with cherished sealocket

[lucid latch]

is it better than the dodge?

[grizzled onyx]

oh god
imagine going into the earlygame underground jungle
and getting a thousand stingers that have Chlorophyte bullet homing shot at you

oh no

[night fractal]

make them bounce too

[grizzled onyx]

i just made another idea for the mod

[grizzled onyx]

IT IS GETTING TOO EVIL

yknow what

make them inflict every debuff known to man

just for good measure

[lucid latch]

can i make a house with platforms

[grizzled onyx]

yes, but you need 2 blocks

[lucid latch]

is this valid

[silver wadi]

any fast pre-hm mage weapons I can use?

[grizzled onyx]

bee gun

hellwing staff

[lucid latch]

why dont i spawn at full heath

this omega armor is annoyign asf

[smoky dock]

for FALSE melee

[smoky dock]

you never did

[lucid latch]

keep forgetting to remove chest to regen

[smoky dock]

i'm pretty sure you spawn at 575 HP plus whatever OB/your accessories give you

then your infinite buffs activates Lifeforce

[smoky dock]

You'll recover that health via lifesteal quickly enough

[lucid latch]

even if im far

[smoky dock]

well

it's dog

you're gonna, like

ram through him

and stuff

and use the set bonus ability Abyssal Madness

[lucid latch]

ohb i havent done that once

[smoky dock]

Spam the ability

[night fractal]

True

[vagrant raft]

i guess im pretty fucked

[desert mesa]

guys how do i fix a bug multiplayer where friend stand still, so far he only stand still with devour of worlds

[vagrant raft]

probably network not in sync or pc not in sync with your friend

[lucid latch]

is there a awy to auto spawn minons after death

[exotic igloo]

what

[lucid latch]

i need an insta planet destroyer

[plush elk]

silksong mod

[lucid latch]

are dogs phases meant to be random

[desert mesa]

my friend and i have good wifi lol

so what could it be?

we using mods

[night fractal]

They are not random

idt

[lucid latch]

am i skipping phases then?>

[coral tapir]

Does anyone have some tips to defeat the astrageldon slime, bc im lowkey gonna crash out

[turbid radish]

Ok so summoner is indeed the best class for calamity infernum??

[turbid radish]

hes a superboss man, hes naturally hard, other then armor and weapons / potions nothing i can say ig

[coral tapir]

ik but im almost there, i got him to 10 percent but i wanted a better sword to fight him

[turbid radish]

I fought him with true biome blade

idk if theres anything better

before moonlord

btw can someone answer me if summoner is indeed the best class for calamity infernum??

[lucid latch]

im taking imaginary damaeg

to DOGs grid

[coral tapir]

probably after all u can focus on dodging

[turbid radish]

ah wheres my beloved deranged lihzahrd when i need him

[vagrant raft]

getting headpats how cute

[turbid radish]

thats quite interesting

can someone recommend me one of these minions for DoG infernum?

and if possible the acessories too

[vagrant raft]

that book is op ngl

[turbid radish]

King of constellations

if possible tell me the CHEESIEST accessories and minions

i dont want to die 213o76410 times to DoG

like i did to astrageldon

[vagrant raft]

astrageldon is a pain in pre moonlord

[turbid radish]

yea

true

[turbid radish]

too many options tho idk what to choose

[snow sun]

Question for the future, is it better to use augmented auric armor fully or everything except the helmet

[vagrant raft]

OH BOI OH BOI

[snow sun]

I’ll pray for u

[lucid latch]

should i have 7 or 8 slots

[vagrant raft]

i might think im about to die

[turbid radish]

WHAT IS THIS

[vagrant raft]

lag

[turbid radish]

ITS SAYING SIMULATIN THE WORLD

help

how do i stop simulatin the world

[night fractal]

That just means the game is running

[vagrant raft]

6 tick per second..

i might think your world is on fire

[turbid radish]

whenever i go to sulfuric sea it starts lagging as hell

[night fractal]

"simulating the world" literally just means "your world is loaded and functioning"

[turbid radish]

how do i kill this boss

its lagging my game

[vagrant raft]

wut

[turbid radish]

help

[vagrant raft]

welp time to reset this world

lmao

[turbid radish]

yep somethins up with this nuclear terror

it lags your game

a lot

[vagrant raft]

yoooo minecraft referance

[lucid latch]

omega blue or god slayer

[grizzled onyx]

depends

if you want super high damage

OBlue

if you want to be able to regenerate HP, Godslayer is a good option

[lucid latch]

for yharon?

[fast nacelle]

No way Susiezilla

[grizzled onyx]

peak character design

[grizzled onyx]

yeah, post yharon go Auric

[lucid latch]

Which would u do for yharon

[smoky dock]

no accessories necessary
no minions necessary
build a black hole set to bouncy life crystal traps and build a hoiked containment area, then stall until the laser webs to manipulate dog inside

you can stall more easily using a dummy engine to teleport 10 heart statue hearts per tick to your location

[lucid latch]

hows this look for yharon

[untold pollen]

I AM LOSING MY MIND

[grizzled onyx]

silva wings

also, no god slayer?

[lucid latch]

i have both

i dont like the dash with it

which weapon?

[turbid radish]

alr which acessories should i use

someone tell pretty please

the most op ones

cheesiest ones

[grizzled onyx]

Lets see

PSA is incredibly powerful

[untold pollen]

.........

[turbid radish]

Profaned soul artifact?

[lucid latch]

this fight is horrendous

[grizzled onyx]

Abosrber is ol reliable
statis curse is great
tarragon wings with armor is also good

[grizzled onyx]

yes
very, very good accessory

[turbid radish]

what else?

[grizzled onyx]

absorber

[turbid radish]

i have 8 acessorie slots

[grizzled onyx]

elysian eigis

tarragon wings if you are using TGon armor

[turbid radish]

i am using terragon armor

its the best one

[grizzled onyx]

aight

Affliction post Polter

Statis Curse and Star Tainted Generator are good

[turbid radish]

ive killed every boss that is before DoG

[grizzled onyx]

ok

[turbid radish]

including old duke

[grizzled onyx]

phantomic artifact is decent

that should do

[turbid radish]

alr lets see if i can cheese DoG

i have 50 hours on this world

and i have no patience anymore

[grizzled onyx]

gonna assume infernum DoG, right?

[silver wadi]

(Fargo's) how's this loadout looking? Aiming for more attack speed reforges to land more hits so copper lightning gets off CD faster

[turbid radish]

yes

[grizzled onyx]

oh than nvm

use bloodflare armor and elysian wings

[fast nacelle]

You don’t need rain enchantment if you fight in rain
But ancient cobalt

[grizzled onyx]

they are way better than TGon and its wings

[turbid radish]

bloodflare?

[grizzled onyx]

yes

[turbid radish]

ok

[fast nacelle]

Instead of prowler

[turbid radish]

acessories the same??

[grizzled onyx]

yep
all except wings, which should be elysian when using Bloodflare

[turbid radish]

ok

[silver wadi]

fair, but I do like the umbrella shield a lot

does cobalt do the bhop like prowler?

[lucid latch]

Is there any way to quickly hammer platforms

[silver wadi]

Quality of Terraria's wand of space lets you place and blockswap with pre-hammered blocks

[fast nacelle]

Yes

[silver wadi]

so if you use that you can replace all your platforms with hammered ones

lets go

[fast nacelle]

But better

[silver wadi]

time to farm some jungle shit

[fast nacelle]

Just not as tall and you always do it on jump

Also op explosion

It’s top tier

[silver wadi]

another question, do alcohols count as debuffs for the ash wood enchant?

or does it have to be an enemy or debuff install

[wide junco]

iirc debuffs are whitelisted for it so no

or just test it

[silver wadi]

based on the fact it says any non-potion debuff, I'm guessing it's a solid no for all alcohols

[lucid latch]

What kind of arena do I want for yharon

[elder nebula]

tall and thin

wait which mode

[turbid radish]

gang as a summoner in infernum

should i reforge everything as warding or menacing

[untold pollen]

what a beautiful arena design

[turbid radish]

so small (trust)

[untold pollen]

either 100 torches in one spot or none at all

[fast nacelle]

Warding

[untold pollen]

now i stg if i run out of space again

[turbid radish]

is this a good amount of defense?

[smoky dock]

Yes

[untold pollen]

what boss ru fighting

my defense against dog lol

not like it matters when he does 700 dmg

[turbid radish]

DoG

[untold pollen]

against DoG i go full menacing

i die from the same amount of hits even if i have warding

[turbid radish]

wait u gotta be kidding me if ur saying kaleidoscope is the only weapon till endgame

[untold pollen]

yep

[turbid radish]

wtf

[untold pollen]

calamity just forgot about whips ig

[grizzled onyx]

nono

they didnt

[wide junco]

its op tho

[grizzled onyx]

they are trying to balance Cal summoner for whips

since they balanced it without whips

and than whips came along and made summoner the best class

[turbid radish]

wtf

is summoner that op??

[grizzled onyx]

yes

[turbid radish]

ok ig

time to play summoner all my playtroughs on infernum

[untold pollen]

i really wanted to true melee DoG but man deaths ascensions dps is just insane

[slim sphinx]

yes

[turbid radish]

i have 1 extra slot for acessories

what do i use

[untold pollen]

with tmelee at the 50s mark i was at like 40% hp

[turbid radish]

wt is that mod

[turbid radish]

also ts

[slim sphinx]

nycros no hit efficiency

[untold pollen]

nycros no hit efficiency

[smoky dock]

nothing's stopping you from doing it anyways

[turbid radish]

also should i whip constantly or just now and then

[smoky dock]

Why not use true melee?

[untold pollen]

i would but im already on attempt 255 man 😭

[turbid radish]

bros on the blink of insanity

[elder nebula]

blink

[grizzled onyx]

-lack of range
-very boring effects most of the time
-extremely linear
-hard to use

[untold pollen]

bold of you to assume im not already going insane from this

[smoky dock]

https://tenor.com/view/votv-kel-keljoy-keljoyplush-plush-gif-14758875349718760905

[turbid radish]

@grizzled onyx can u answer me on this

[untold pollen]

i lost my mind around attempt 100

[fast nacelle]

Haih prikki

[smoky dock]

True melee is literal perfection

[fast nacelle]

No

[slim sphinx]

yes

[fast nacelle]

I don’t like proboscis

That’s it

[untold pollen]

i did most of hardmode true melee

if you count slagsplitter

:)

[fast nacelle]

Fire

[turbid radish]

eh i can understand i died around 200 times with my friend against astrageldon on master deathmode

[smoky dock]

If you don't like gilded proboscis, sure

I don't mind, you don't need to

[grizzled onyx]

deranged

[fast nacelle]

Tmelee SUCKS

Jk jk

[grizzled onyx]

true melee needs some work

[fast nacelle]

Best class

[fast nacelle]

NO

[untold pollen]

i took like 30 tries just for my world to bug out and not show in boss list that i killed it :(

[grizzled onyx]

i mean currently

it is decent

but it lacks in one MAJOR thing:

Variety

[untold pollen]

oh that was goated never using anything else for providence

again

[slim sphinx]

the only thing I think needs changing is usestyle1

[fast nacelle]

No

[grizzled onyx]

TM Needs more stuff

[slim sphinx]

other than thats its great

[fast nacelle]

Spears and swords is all you need

Except proboscis

[grizzled onyx]

What I mean by this
is not new weapon classes
but more weapons

[fast nacelle]

Fucj you proboscis

[fast nacelle]

Yeah there’s

A lot of them

[grizzled onyx]

because damn endgame true melee is boring

[fast nacelle]

Not unique

[smoky dock]

I think it could use some more, but it's fine as is
It would enjoy more variety in early hardmode

[fast nacelle]

I get that

[smoky dock]

Aaaand post-DoG

[untold pollen]

submarine shocker is goated also

[grizzled onyx]

you have 3 true melee weapons pre SCal

[smoky dock]

No, you have one

[fast nacelle]

Sahara slicers upgrade post tarragon 🙏

[grizzled onyx]

Enforcer, Murasama, and DR

but one of those is garbage

and one of them has bad DPS

so DR is your only option post Yharon

[fast nacelle]

Murasama has

Fine dps iirc

Not for being tmelee

[grizzled onyx]

it is just worse than DR

[fast nacelle]

Ye but

More range

[grizzled onyx]

not really

[smoky dock]

Enforcer and Murasama aren't really considerable
If you count literally every true melee weapon available then there are a zillion, but only a handful are actually relevant, and a slightly larger handful have a reason to be used

[smoky dock]

not by enough to be relevant

Murasama is there to beat the crap out of Yharon and to juke mnl out of Exos

[fast nacelle]

Yes but could be used for scal somewhat

[fast nacelle]

Real

[grizzled onyx]

uh

not really

only for hearts

but even then, DR does that better

[fast nacelle]

If you dash and use Murasama you can reach her even with starter dash

But then again same with dragon rage iirc

So

Uhh

Yeah

[smoky dock]

But I don't think this lack of variety here is an issue with true melee as a whole

It's certainly an issue with the post-DoG tier

[grizzled onyx]

there is literally no reason to use Murasama post DoG when DR exists

[smoky dock]

Dragon Rage is post-Yharon

What do you use for Yharon?

[grizzled onyx]

whoops

meant post Yharon

as far as I see

[untold pollen]

FUCK YEAH

[smoky dock]

yeah, post-Yharon also has no competition

[grizzled onyx]

DR outclasses it in almost all ways

[fast nacelle]

Peak

[untold pollen]

259

[smoky dock]

I haven't tested Tainted weapons much but I doubt that they're relevant

[grizzled onyx]

yeah, true

[turbid radish]

nice

[untold pollen]

im finally free

[turbid radish]

bro was about to become the next joker

[grizzled onyx]

except for maybe Ataraxia and EBlade

[untold pollen]

[grizzled onyx]

but i dunno

[smoky dock]

For Yharon you also have no competition
It's just Murasama. Enforcer is impressively bad

[untold pollen]

i almost broke my keyboard at like 160

the rgb started bugging out

[smoky dock]

Prior to that though, you always have at least two choices

[untold pollen]

[turbid radish]

then you go and take 350 attempts on the next boss

[grizzled onyx]

MORE TRUE MELEE POST DOG AND YHARON

[turbid radish]

[smoky dock]

more or less... like i said early hardmode has zilch

[untold pollen]

nonono i will first try yharon trust

[turbid radish]

sureeee

[smoky dock]

bladetongue or weaponless

choose, dumbass

[turbid radish]

if you do, clip it and send me it

[grizzled onyx]

w-what about the hm ore swords and spears

[smoky dock]

They're like

bad

Cobalt Naginata is a very unique support weapon

Palladium Pike might be a valuable support tool

[grizzled onyx]

but other than that

garbage

[smoky dock]

But as your sole and primary source of damage, you're not really going to get anywhere

[fast nacelle]

Cobalt spear on Fargos with cal is unironically op

[grizzled onyx]

although i did use Orichalcum Halberd against Cryo

[smoky dock]

At that point debuffs are going to be more effective

[grizzled onyx]

with Orichalcum armor

works surprisingly well

[turbid radish]

205 defense

should be good for Dog

[smoky dock]

I remember a while ago someone was going "orichalcum spear is the holy grail of tmelee cryo......... u g otta use it its the only option....."

[grizzled onyx]

rate my team comp multiplayer:

TM (me)

and Rogue (friend)

[smoky dock]

resisting the urge to murder them on the spot was tough

[turbid radish]

ARMY OF MINIONS

[grizzled onyx]

uh

yeah

same

bladtongue is good

i didnt use it

but that is because i didnt feel like fish

[smoky dock]

REAL

but no I wasn't thinking of Bladetongue

[grizzled onyx]

bruh
how could you say that
why on earth would you

[smoky dock]

I was thinking of Brimlance

[grizzled onyx]

it is
decent

[smoky dock]

it is
1:32

[grizzled onyx]

it does seem to have iframe issues to me

not 100% sure

[smoky dock]

Brimlance doesn't really care about like, the weapon part of the weapon

[grizzled onyx]

but i think so

[smoky dock]

The merit of Brimlance on Cryogen is that it has a long range and inflicts Brimstone Flames

Turn that into a Heat debuff build, bing bang boom fuck da ice cube

[untold pollen]

fucking wrath of gods snow just made my DoG relic dissappear

[smoky dock]

pepe_pointing

[grizzled onyx]

wait
i am curious
would the people of calamity discord murder me for using summons with true melee

[untold pollen]

i swear im never using wotg again

[grizzled onyx]

offensive summons

not those puny ah brittle stars

[smoky dock]

no not really

I think it's fine, as long as the gameplay exudes true melee vibes

The vibes matter more than anything imo

[grizzled onyx]

i try to give the bosses warm hugs

[smoky dock]

🦎 👍

[untold pollen]

im scared to move on to yharon now

[grizzled onyx]

while trying to stab them in the gut

[smoky dock]

i want to warm hug yharon

sans the gut stab

[grizzled onyx]

name a boss you would want to hug irl

[smoky dock]

yharon

[untold pollen]

do i true melee yharon 🤔

[silver wadi]

bruh wdym mimic drops are prehardmode now ty eternity

[grizzled onyx]

yeah true
but i would also want to hug SCal

[smoky dock]

she needs a hug

[silver wadi]

scal, nah

[grizzled onyx]

yes

[silver wadi]

forgotten shadow, hell yeah

[grizzled onyx]

she needs a nice hug

[turbid radish]

yo why were i doing this much damage and now im doing half of that

[smoky dock]

because dummy testing is dumb and stupid and impressively unreliable and inaccurate

[cedar laurel]

Don’t tell this person about pigron

[turbid radish]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[grizzled onyx]

yeah

[silver wadi]

already saw the pigrons unfortunately

[grizzled onyx]

anyways, i would love to just

go up to SCal

and give her a hug

[smoky dock]

dummy testing is for testing out weapon mechanics and behavior
Weapon performance is pretty :/ on it

[silver wadi]

I was less surprised by mimics existing

[smoky dock]

I want to hug Draedon too

[grizzled onyx]

she needs it bad

[silver wadi]

more surprised they actually use their hardmode loot table

[smoky dock]

tbh i'd hug a lot of the bad guys

[grizzled onyx]

his posture is actual crap though

he looks like a goddamn shrimp

[cedar laurel]

they teleport even

[untold pollen]

i want to strangle DoG instead of hugging him

[smoky dock]

NO

[untold pollen]

yes

[smoky dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1104916162741018695/1298259415010381937/dogpet.gif

be nice to him....

[turbid radish]

ts arena good?

for DoG

its a world arena

infernum

[smoky dock]

The platforms are much too close together

[untold pollen]

never

i despise him

i wish eternal suffering upon him

[smoky dock]

Expand it until there's no less than... twenty or thirty blocks between them. Exact number doesn't matter. You just need fewer of them

[turbid radish]

what about nown

[untold pollen]

i tried this first but i kept going down too much and accidentally going to the ground lol

[smoky dock]

You just added more platforms

Destroy some

[turbid radish]

ok

[grizzled onyx]

here is my tier list of huggability

[candid wind]

fuck profaned guardians

shit ass bods

[tiny tinsel]

what enchantment should i use for pre plantera??

[untold pollen]

REAL

[grizzled onyx]

@smoky dock do you agree with my tier list of huggability

[untold pollen]

signus just be chilling with his lamp

[candid wind]

out of every boss in infernum profaned guardians has to be the worst one ive fought so far

i genuinely dislike this boss so much

[smoky dock]

mmmmm I think so, so far

[untold pollen]

i hate those fuckass guardians

[grizzled onyx]

although some things i would change:
DoG, Astrageldon, and PMW would try to eat me

[candid wind]

im about to fight this shit in death mode

[smoky dock]

Aureus isn't actively trying to kill anyone, I think. So it's safe to hug for a little bit

Deus is just a chill little guy

[grizzled onyx]

eh

maybe

[smoky dock]

I have the privilege of hugging Golem

and I'm not sure about Plantera

but otherwise it's accurate

[grizzled onyx]

oh yeah plantera would def eat me

[untold pollen]

signus is a chill dude just walking around w his lamp :(

[grizzled onyx]

he would kill me

he is an ASSASSIN

a multidemensional one

[untold pollen]

his beastiary says for a price you can have a wish granted just pay him to hug you

[candid wind]

i love how for the 3rd phase of profaned guardians you essentially have to no hit it or else you die

[smoky dock]

what's your current setup

[turbid radish]

is this enough

its a world arena btw

[smoky dock]

what's a world arena

[turbid radish]

its just not fully loaded

[cedar laurel]

Titanium

[untold pollen]

prob the platforms go all the way

to the edges

[turbid radish]

every platform u see goes around the whole world

[candid wind]

@smoky dock

[untold pollen]

what non true melee weapons good for yharon (if i die too much w murasama)

and do not say galaxia

[turbid radish]

so is ts enough or not

[untold pollen]

i do not like galaxia

[smoky dock]

Oh yeah that setup looks bulky enough

[candid wind]

i dont know

[smoky dock]

Are you using Warding

[candid wind]

mhm

[smoky dock]

Good stuff

[candid wind]

3rd phase is just

too difficult for me i dont know

[smoky dock]

Toss in Moonshine, maybe Deific Amulet

Also Hide of Astrum Deus is really unadvisable unless you're using true melee

[turbid radish]

is it gang

[smoky dock]

It doesn't really do anything

[turbid radish]

20 blocks

[candid wind]

im doing true melee for the healer a little bit

but its not really

working

[untold pollen]

should be fine try it out

[candid wind]

yeah i shred the boss but i get shredded too

[smoky dock]

Which true melee weapon?

Also I don

[untold pollen]

if not go to like 25 or 30

[candid wind]

gilded probiscis

and elemental shiv

[turbid radish]

coming from a guy that did 259 attempts idk if thats ok

[candid wind]

i tried out aote but

[smoky dock]

't think using an entire, very valuable accessory slot for the first phase is a very good idea

[untold pollen]

[smoky dock]

Gilded Proboscis is AWESOME I love that weapon it's my baby

[turbid radish]

if i die istg

[untold pollen]

you made me become a fan of it too lol

[candid wind]

it works really well with hide of astrum deus

[turbid radish]

you know what

[smoky dock]

But unless you plan to use it for phase one, two and three I wouldn't stick to it and Hide of Astrum Deus

[turbid radish]

im using this

[candid wind]

sigh

[candid wind]

idk what to replace it with

i could use asgards valor

[smoky dock]

Deific Amulet

[candid wind]

but im already using statis belf

[smoky dock]

yeah

You could drop the belt for Valor and slot in Amalgamated Brain elsewhere

[candid wind]

call me crazy but does the community not like suck during this stage in the game

[smoky dock]

Or not use a dodge at all

[smoky dock]

it does unfortunately

[candid wind]

im kinda thinking of using the valor in replacement of comm

that or blood pact

[smoky dock]

imo the only niche it has is as an accessory which boosts offensive stats and flight stats at the same time, but you have infinite flight here sooo

[untold pollen]

does community ever get good everytime i put it on i get told to switch it out lol

[candid wind]

end of the game

thats p much the only scenario in which its good

[turbid radish]

gang as a summoner should i constantly whip my enemies or just now and then

[smoky dock]

So I think you wanna drop Community for Valor and Statis' Ninja Belt for Deific Amulet

[candid wind]

are there any support itoms

[smoky dock]

Then you can drop uhhhhh

HoAD for Amalgamated Brain

[untold pollen]

valor works nice for 2nd phase

[smoky dock]

Eye of Magnus is the most important

[candid wind]

idk i feel like it doesnt heal allat much

[smoky dock]

anything beyond that starts to become cumbersome to use and/or not worth the time it takes to use

[light prism]

it might just be me but infernum is a little too easy

[candid wind]

i have the relic of convergence but that shit slows me down

[smoky dock]

the healing isn't really worth much
The real benefit is the Marked for Death debuff on hit

Defender has a 40% DR so if you blast it with Eye of Magnus then it instead gets 20% DR for the duration of the debuff

[turbid radish]

???

[smoky dock]

1.25x damage because you hit a silly little button

[candid wind]

how bout now

i replaced statis belt with amalgamated brain

[smoky dock]

oh rad

then it's a nice upgrade

[candid wind]

what weapons would you reccomend i use

im using elemental shiv and ark of the elements sometimes

[untold pollen]

prettymuch what i beat it with other than the wings

[smoky dock]

although i think you should experiment with Solar wings since I heard starboard gets buggy with Calamity dashes

but I don't know much more beyond that

[smoky dock]

uhhhhhh

unfortunately fake melee is not something I know much of anything about

[untold pollen]

i used plague keeper and it wasnt too bad

[smoky dock]

is that true melee or no?

[untold pollen]

nope

[smoky dock]

it is not

well either way I dunno much of anything about it

when in doubt just experiment with a bunch of options and see what their struggles and successes are

[untold pollen]

we need true melee fist weapons just punch the shit out of bosses

[smoky dock]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Phosphorescent_Gauntlet

[lethal oxide]

Skipping 2nd evil boss but anything else I should get for skeletron (Masochist-Death)

[untold pollen]

hmm not exactly what i had in mind but still better than nothing

[cedar laurel]

It could use meteor enchantment over shield

[nimble wing]

https://youtu.be/9GqKSLmivz4?si=twhiHqeuSSVTvkXA
https://youtu.be/kgVE6ijNkSE?si=RJN0qpA18MSlqxtt
https://youtu.be/EN8lyo0JL8Q?si=l6D4tOS7Lxl4Yxh9
@smoky dock hey buddy (read the descriptions this time especially)

[untold pollen]

?

[candid wind]

lowkey

i dont know chat the play through might be defeated at profaned guardians

[smoky dock]

Yeah Cryogen is a punk ass, just awful
At least it didn't take you long

[untold pollen]

how many attempts

[nimble wing]

galaxy smasher

[turbid radish]

ok so im getting one shotted on DoG

[candid wind]

damn near 200

[untold pollen]

how much hp u got? u have more defense than me and i still survived more than one

[turbid radish]

815

[zealous arch]

has anyone else noticed that the infernum mod music mod removed the ability to have the music off when not in infernum mode?

[turbid radish]

actually im getting two shotted

[zealous arch]

I think it was a bad change and there should def be a config option to turn it off when not in infernum

[turbid radish]

i go from 815 to around 300

and die

[candid wind]

chat

[turbid radish]

860 hp actually rn

[candid wind]

plague keeper might be the move

[smoky dock]

You can help deal with the survivability issue by using Cherished Sealocket or Amalgamated Brain, Affliction, and avoiding being struck by the head specifically

also warding good moonshine good yadda yadda

[silver wadi]

please pardon the slow ass speed

why the fuck did it have audio capture on

ew

ok re-recording it

[turbid radish]

ok im getting better

[untold pollen]

told ya

for me plague keeper lagged my game making the guardians slower and easier to dodge lol

[turbid radish]

@untold pollen is there a better weapon alternative to these two

[smoky dock]

Virid Vanguards are more consistent alternative to Calimari's Lament

[turbid radish]

For DoG infernum?

[smoky dock]

calimari are great at dealing lots of damage but they only do that great damage if you're right next to his head

Otherwise they use the weak ink shot attack which will probably hit the body and do nothing

Vanguards will constantly hit the head and track him aggressively

[silver wadi]

desert prowler bhop

[turbid radish]

uh

[candid wind]

idk how to deal with 3rd phase

cause it always shoots a fuckass insta kill fire ball

[untold pollen]

i just stayed as far as i could and then when he shot it i dropped down and dashed under it

[tardy cedar]

[turbid radish]

I have no idea how you managed to go into 259 attempts

[candid wind]

im never beating this boss

[turbid radish]

im at attempt 10 and im already on the point of insanity

[untold pollen]

i dont even know

[turbid radish]

do i really gotta keep dashing trough DoG?

is there no other way to dodge

[untold pollen]

i did like 190 in a row too...

[untold pollen]

yep

[turbid radish]

💔

[untold pollen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyTC-ziKZD8&ab_channel=Leprosyhaver i was doing it like this

[turbid radish]

bruh

I seriously HATE Devourer of gods

[untold pollen]

dw it gets

worse

[smoky dock]

👍

[untold pollen]

stay away from me

as far as possible please

[smoky dock]

DD

[turbid radish]

Please dont talk to me again

[untold pollen]

what the fuck is that cat grinning for

no reason to be that happy

😡

[turbid radish]

Im seriously scared to know lizards steam hours on tmodloader

[turbid radish]

U think ur good

u think ur slick

I challenge u to beat DoG infernum on a 10x10

[smoky dock]

i'll give it a shot

it's gonna be incredibly cheesy, but

[turbid radish]

.

CHEESY?

ok then fight him in a 3x3

For motivation ill give u 1 cent if u win

[smoky dock]

HUH

on it

[turbid radish]

[untold pollen]

love zerg

[turbid radish]

what the actual f-

is ts world arena enough

for DoG

[untold pollen]

in like 20s

[turbid radish]

u fool

u forgot combat potion

or wtv its called

[untold pollen]

battle

[smoky dock]

Yes that's enough

[untold pollen]

i got it on now

[humble marlin]

Update: she's still exploding idk what to do

[turbid radish]

if u have luiafk utilities togled u can also use this

[untold pollen]

god forbid an npc has a hobby

[smoky dock]

consider... use the water candle, chaos candle, battle potion, and zerg potion all at once whilst in a blood moon

Pre-hardmode or hardmode bloodmoon works

[turbid radish]

and this too

if he has luiafk utilities

[smoky dock]

well the thing is

[smoky dock]

i don't know exactly why, but putting all these together completely disables natural mob spawning

remove any of them and monsters start flooding in

[snow sun]

Combine this with a Zerg and battle cry and the battle power from luiafk reborn and you have something to crash your pc

[turbid radish]

Ok lemme showcase it

I cant guarantee my pc wont crash

[smoky dock]

🥺

[candid wind]

I DID IT

FUCK YOU

FUCK YOU

FUCK THAT BOSS

FUCK

YOU

[untold pollen]

now true melee providence

[candid wind]

NO

[untold pollen]

no actually

swear

[smoky dock]

Great work!!

[turbid radish]

uhhhhhh

[untold pollen]

aight lizard man what loadout should i use for yharon

havent changed anything yet

since DoG

[smoky dock]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i dunno about yharon

I know Sponge is mandatory