magic has always appealed to me for reasons I couldn't explain, it's a big part of why I love stuff like Undertale and Deltarune (outside their amazing stories), they're worlds steeped in magic
#calamity-addon-talk
viscid badger
as such
mage is the logical choice
summoner is fun too, it also is pretty heavy on magic themes
raven vapor
most unfair mod vs most unfair game difficulty 
limber sage
magic has always appealed to me for reasons I couldn't explain, it's a big part ...
If I may, the reason you like magic, might be the idea of having such fantastical powers for yourself
elder nebula
mud
raven vapor
i never got uelibloom from jubngle
viscid badger
If I may, the reason you like magic, might be the idea of having such fantastica...
honestly that is 100% part of the reason, I was introduced to magical worlds (such as UT like I said lol, that one had a major impact on me) pretty young so ofc they'll always have a place in my heart
I always enjoy writing (not on a professional level by any means) so magic systems are quite fun
viscid badger
mud anywhere actually
tarragon armor here I come
limber sage
I think the reason I love summoning and stuff is because of the awesome concepts from final fantasy with the materia summons from ff7
especially bahamut and it's other variants
viscid badger
I think the reason I love summoning and stuff is because of the awesome concepts...
summoning is always hella fun, there's usually super cool creatures to summon
raven vapor
summons are also frends :D
limber sage
^ true
viscid badger
plus to an extent not fighting alone feels just.. nicer? cooler?
limber sage
having a 'bond' always by your side regardless of your situation
but yeah, it's a great thought
cedar laurel
Shoutout to goozma’s slime cane
Best vanity weapon
raven vapor
is it good as a weapon weapon tho?
viscid badger
having a 'bond' always by your side regardless of your situation
not to harp on the same series over and over but
deltarune especially makes having pals with you just appeal lol, I'm not sure how to describe it but the series has def impacted that to an extent
viscid badger
Shoutout to goozma’s slime cane
Best vanity weapon
mmmm
goozma
viscid badger
hell yeah, having mounts is also super nice
mounts and just tamed creatures you can care for
cedar laurel
I remember calling my dinos the wrong things and they all run to sea then get stunlocked and die to jellyfishes
limber sage
cnidaria and electrophorus are the worst
anyways, I'm out. gotta sleep at some point
agile agate
Wtf 
prisma peak
is this all the brewer sells with alchemistnpc?
I've beaten all bosses except mech/witch
past pagoda
is this all the brewer sells with alchemistnpc?
dont use all of those potions
some of those arent cal potions
everything past the bounding potion is cal and everything above it is alchemist
prisma peak
but arent there more cal potions?
past pagoda
no
prisma peak
past pagoda
https://alchemistnpc.fandom.com/wiki/Brewer
?
yeah
i use this mod
but the thing is some of those potions r basically cheats
prisma peak
im just confused oin where potions like these are sold
past pagoda
with them u dont need ankh shield because kb immunity potion and u can get a free dodge from ninja potion
past pagoda
im just confused oin where potions like these are sold
most of them u gotta make them
or buy from drunk princess
also i think that flask man from alchemist might sell them
prisma peak
the link I sent literally says the second shop is supposed to have the potions in the screenshot, but I dont have them in my game, weird.
limber sage
or buy from drunk princess
buy them from who? I don't recall an npc by that name
prisma peak
rip
past pagoda
buy them from who? I don't recall an npc by that name
drunk princess
grizzled onyx
buy them from who? I don't recall an npc by that name
she doesnt exist
prisma peak
not anymore
past pagoda
in calamity
grizzled onyx
shes gone
past pagoda
oh
limber sage
drunk princess
who?
grizzled onyx
in calamity
dont speak of her name
prisma peak
lmao
agile agate
im just confused oin where potions like these are sold
Titan Scale, Shattering, Holy Wrath and Profaned Rage
grizzled onyx
yeah no did you see all the fabsol crap
past pagoda
yeah no did you see all the fabsol crap
no
prisma peak
Titan Scale, Shattering, Holy Wrath and Profaned Rage
huh
agile agate
Weren't those the ones that got removed or were it different potions that got removed?
prisma peak
oh
waxen tide
Weren't those the ones that got removed or were it different potions that got re...
those are removed ones yes
agile agate
Yeah, removed back in 2.0.2.001 which was two years ago
agile agate
Are you using Fandom?
waxen tide
fandom wiki
prisma peak
yeah
agile agate
past pagoda
shall i do a
gfb cal fargo souls infernum masochist permant magic mushroom (with 50% damage removed) no accessorys and no progression skips e.g no using optic staff dropping from eoc and have to kill bosses in boss checklist order
also with nycros no hit feature where everything instantly kill me
agile agate
Yeah, a lot of the strong potions got removed
grizzled onyx
i dont think a wikigg page exists for Alchemist NPC
agile agate
Oh yeah
Cadence Potion was the Lifeforce Potion upgrade
Which was able to stack with Lifeforce as well
So a total of 50% max health increase
waxen tide
🤑
agile agate
Which was able to stack with Lifeforce as well
Actually, nvm
It didn't
Oh it also used to be an upgrade to the Calming Potion
raven vapor
https://alchemistnpc.fandom.com/wiki/Brewer
fandom wiki 
maiden void
does the ankh shield and cell phone components' recipe is only in the calamity vanilla item recipe mod or are they still in the main mod?
agile agate
Ankh Shield components have their own recipes in the main mod while the Cellphone doesn't
Actually, nvm
Metal Detector, Radar and DPS Meter have recipes from the main mod
Oh, I didn't know they made Mini Nukes post Moon Lord
I found a funny Vanilla recipe change. Which is for the Chlorophyte Bars
It requires 4 instead of 5 ores
Makes sense
It snowballs
strong cypress
real talk which model do you guys prefer for DOG? the og calamity one or the infernum one?
agile agate
Infernum looks different?
I don't remember what the original one looks like because I always play on Infernum
strong cypress
agile agate
I also forgot what Infernum DoG looked like because I last did Infernum three or so months ago
smoky dock
agile agate
Oh yeah
strong cypress
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/797610420420345876/1257458587186499735/de...
i love this
smoky dock
I love him
prisma peak
what is best melee weapon to use against Artemis and Apollo
smoky dock
one of either... zenith, dragon pow, or dragon rage
if I had to pick one to save my life, it'd be zenith
although my knowledge of melee is poor
grizzled onyx
if I had to pick one to save my life, it'd be zenith
although my knowledge of me...
-All melee besides true melee
humble marlin
miau
smoky dock
biting you
grizzled onyx
what is the worst point for true melee in progression
smoky dock
uhhhhh
generally speaking it doesn't suffer in any specific area
early to mid pre-hardmode is what I'd say is the general worst
grizzled onyx
but it does lack in variety in some places, right?
smoky dock
Definitely
grizzled onyx
because post Yharon you have...
dragon rage
smoky dock
grizzled onyx
and that is all you got
smoky dock
yeppers
smoky dock
early to mid pre-hardmode is what I'd say is the *general* worst
you have volcano
grizzled onyx
murasama is the only actually good TM weapon at that point
smoky dock
aaaaand then you have the bottom of the barrel for when volcano doesn't work
Early hardmode lacks variety in weapon choice
(more like pre-mechs)
ooh well you have tainted weapons post-SCal
so not just drage
i might do exos with tainted burning sky because like, it's really funny
edgy thunder
did u guys know that Community remix ACTUALLY adds some things from the fandom (I feel like a lot of people might not know this, correct me if I'm wrong 
)
smoky dock
deadass???
raven vapor
i beat dog
smoky dock
good work!
raven vapor
now to do it again but on infernum
also why cant i shimmer decraft calamity items
they just get deleted
smoky dock
Which one are you trying to decraft
raven vapor
any item really
in my old playthrough i tried the auric tesla + armour
now the mirror of kalandra
or however you spell it
raven vapor
yea
i put them in shimmer , they dont come back
i go inside the shimmer to check , they are not there
smoky dock
???????
raven vapor
vanilla items decraft fine
edgy thunder
they just get deleted
I tried decrafting a Rover Drive. It did not decraft but it also just stayed there at the bottom of the lake
smoky dock
baffling
smoky dock
I tried decrafting a Rover Drive. It did not decraft but it also just stayed the...
Rover Drive isn't craftable
edgy thunder
oh
that makes more sense, the crafting recipe must've been added by community remix 💀
smoky dock
Possibly
raven vapor
i have calamity craftable items if thats anything
smoky dock
Baffling
raven vapor
like i uncrafted the exoblade and it worked fine
i tried the mirror of kalandra and it worked too???
ok turns out it was the ceaseless hunger potions
viscid lichen
mirror of kalandra my beloved
fast nacelle
How catlamitous
smoky dock
infinite potions causes problems once again
raven vapor
infinite buffs are nice , but certain buffs need not be infinite
ie : gravitation , ceaseless hunger
calm dirge
Is melee the easiest class
fast nacelle
No
fast nacelle
ie : gravitation , ceaseless hunger
Unless you want infinite flight pre boss
fast nacelle
Like gravitation potion is ridiculously overpowered yet nobody use it
fast nacelle
then what is my friend for infernum
Easiest class is summoner
Probably
Ranger otherwise cuz rogue is
Uhhh
A lot of aim
raven vapor
Unless you want infinite flight pre boss
whatr?
fast nacelle
whatr<:clueless:1064298508653432933>?
Gravitation potion
You can go horizontal infinitely
Actually if you make a giant water arena floatie may be better but uses an accessory slot
maiden fjord
so far so good. yet I still having a hard time dodging the second nova lance 
fast nacelle
so far so good. yet I still having a hard time dodging the second nova lance <:S...
No deific amulet, absorber?
maiden fjord
ye
I'll do that tomorrow
fast nacelle
Good luck
jaunty orchid
dunno if i asked but calamity fables ?
smoky dock
what about it
jaunty orchid
is it good with base cal and infernum
fickle mirage
jaunty orchid
is wotg still doesnt work in multiplayer ?
undone oak
is wotg still doesnt work in multiplayer ?
Yep
It doesnt even work without bugs in single
undone oak
if i remove it, do i have to regenrate the world ?
Idk, i havent played far with it, i saw a gorillion bug reports here and decided to stop it
amber current
317 attempts to kill infernum dog
smoky dock
wotg doesn't work at all in multiplayer
fast nacelle
Kill current multiplayer with hot sticks
untold pollen
pre providence accessories
anything i should change
smoky dock
wher hide of astrtum deus
fast nacelle
Blood pact and community imo
Ambriosal ampoule over blood pact and hoad over community
untold pollen
eh is ampoules regen better than the 100 more hp i get from pact and the potion healing
smoky dock
Absolutely
fast nacelle
Life regen and defense is better
smoky dock
AAmpoule healing 1 HP/s means you heal 100 HP over 100 seconds
untold pollen
Hp doesn’t really matter that much
i am terrible at dodging providence
smoky dock
Providence is one of the longest fights in the game, so you're going to spend a long time getting the regeneration from Ampoule
untold pollen
providences fat ass model makes me not see any of the projectiles
smoky dock
(Plus ampoule halves the duration of Holy Flames which means your regen is disabled for less time and you have less incoming damage)
untold pollen
what flask do i use against providence or is she immune to all
fast nacelle
Every attack inflicts a debuff
fast nacelle
what flask do i use against providence or is she immune to all
Crumbling
smoky dock
Your choice of flask doesn't matter much
fast nacelle
Use astral eye as well
Like
Seriously
Or the upgrade I always forget the name of
smoky dock
1.2x damage for 0.00% more effort
smoky dock
Or the upgrade I always forget the name of
Eye of Magnus
smoky dock
either one works fine
fast nacelle
But it does heal and give mana
smoky dock
it's just not possible to miss providence so
fast nacelle
Eye of Magnus is so busted I swear to god
untold pollen
next do i use ark or elemental shiv
untold pollen
fast nacelle
@smoky dock how would grand guardian work against providence
smoky dock
uhhhhh
untold pollen
fuck it ill try true melee
smoky dock
smoky dock
Then you should use Hide of Astrum Deus and Gilded Proboscis
Warbanner of the Sun is worth considering, but is difficult to get and not required
fast nacelle
cheat
smoky dock
yeah exactly
untold pollen
infernum guardians was the worst thing ever
smoky dock
then just don't use HoAD
Remember that Providence does not deal contact damage under any circumstances, so be aggressive
untold pollen
if i get the warbanner what do i even switch it for
smoky dock
Ampoule
smoky dock
uhhh, wait let me think...
fast nacelle
uhhh, wait let me think...
Maybe deific
smoky dock
Nono you can keep Ampoule
The setup I'm imagining is Fire Gauntlet, HoAD, Warbanner, Absorber, Statis' Ninja Belt, Solar Wings and Ampoule/Deific
Can't really decide between the two. Considering the recent Ampoule buff and how well it already suited Providence I'm leaning towards that
fast nacelle
It got buffed?
smoky dock
Less of a buff, more of a bugfix
untold pollen
according to wiki it was just nerfed
fair lagoon
What harder masterdeath-infernum
untold pollen
smoky dock
according to wiki it was just nerfed
The description of the accessory was never accurate
fast nacelle
Oh yeah didn’t I get nerfed cuz bug got dixed
untold pollen
The description of the accessory was never accurate
ah
smoky dock
Prior to this change, it would always give 2 HP/s
fast nacelle
What harder masterdeath-infernum
Masterdeath
untold pollen
Prior to this change, it would *always* give 2 HP/s
ohh
smoky dock
Now it can give anywhere between 1 HP/s to 5 HP/s
fair lagoon
Masterdeath
Masterdeath-inferfummaster
smoky dock
what the fuck who the fucking shit nerfed the max health boost
that's such a dead stat
smoky dock
Masterdeath-inferfummaster
Master Infernum doesn't exist
fair lagoon
Master Infernum doesn't exist
It exist
smoky dock
Because of a patch mod?
fair lagoon
Ye
fast nacelle
Yeah with an addon to an addon to a mod
smoky dock
That mod doesn't actually do anything beyond lift the restiction
It doesn't do anything to make it function properly
smoky dock
For that reason, master infernum is surprisingly buggy and has no new content
fair lagoon
More damage and more hp
smoky dock
If you'd like greater stats, then use Fargo's Mutant Mod's health and damage configuration sliders
untold pollen
i hate when more difficulty just means more numbers
smoky dock
That'll work just the same way, but with none of the baffling bugs
fast nacelle
10x hp and attack masterdeath vs masterinfernum what’s harder?
fair lagoon
10x hp and attack masterdeath vs masterinfernum what’s harder?
10x
fair lagoon
Legendary infernum
smoky dock
Legendary Infernum doesn't exist
fast nacelle
Yeah that’s just
A bit more stats
Normal cal hardest thing still wins
Gfb lunatic cultist 10x hp and attack
fair lagoon
Legendary Infernum doesn't exist
It exist
smoky dock
Because of a patch mod?
fair lagoon
Yea
smoky dock
That mod doesn't actually *do* anything beyond *lift the restiction*
That mod doesn't actually do anything beyond lift the restiction
It doesn't do anything to make it function properly
smoky dock
For that reason, master infernum is surprisingly buggy and has no new content
For that reason, master infernum is surprisingly buggy and has no new content
fast nacelle
2k damage
smoky dock
If you'd like greater stats, then use Fargo's Mutant Mod's health and damage con...
If you'd like greater stats, then use Fargo's Mutant Mod's health and damage configuration sliders
untold pollen
The setup I'm imagining is Fire Gauntlet, HoAD, Warbanner, Absorber, Statis' Nin...
statis instead of asgard?
smoky dock
I remember taking over 1,000 damage from Yharon contact so
untold pollen
oh yeah no contact dmg
smoky dock
statis instead of asgard?
Yeah. You're using Absorber for knockback immunity so... what else can it be useful for?
fair lagoon
Legendary buff mobs and traps add new bos
smoky dock
might as well take the dash which has a dodge built in
untold pollen
wait i need necroplasm for it
smoky dock
Legendary buff mobs and traps add new bos
You can do that too without needing legendary mode
lofty abyss
Hey, when I downloaded fables "with dependencies", base calamity was not downloded... Is it independent or do I need both mods to get the full experience?
smoky dock
And that new boss doesn't exist in Infernum, because Infernum was not designed to exist on other difficulties
smoky dock
Hey, when I downloaded fables "with dependencies", base calamity was not downlod...
It's an independent mod, so Calamity isn't necessary
Fables is not an addon
untold pollen
i jsut realized u can get necroplasm before polterghast i am stupid
lofty abyss
Fables is not an addon
so does it mean I would have "repeated" content if I downloaded both?
I didnt know it wasnt an addon
smoky dock
Well Fables' devs knew this kinda thing will happen so if you attempt to install both, then Fables will override Calamity content when possible
fast nacelle
so does it mean I would have "repeated" content if I downloaded both?
Yesnt
lofty abyss
thank you
untold pollen
so i use gilded proboscis right
twin yarrow
im playing infernum, how can i get these boss textures??
smoky dock
so i use gilded proboscis right
yeah, that's my personal favorite weapon in the entire game
There's an alternative in Stellar Striker if you want to try that
twin yarrow
im playing infernum, how can i get these boss textures??
im not sure if this is part of infernum or an entirely different addon even
untold pollen
alr before the most i made it was 40% lets see how far i make it this time
what do i use the eye of magnus for
oh it heals
but so does the gilded
smoky dock
Eye of Magnus exists for the Marked for Death debuff and nothing else
smoky dock
im not sure if this is part of infernum or an entirely different addon even
It's a texture pack
untold pollen
how often do i use it
smoky dock
I think it's called Calamity Texture Pack or something along those lines. It should be pretty obvious in the screenshots
smoky dock
how often do i use it
Whenever you're out of Gilded Proboscis' effective range, or once every 8 seconds
Whatever's necessary to keep the debuff active
smoky dock
Well you have a pretty good margin of error so as long as you're learning from your mistakes, you'll be fine
silver wadi
so apparently the spawn criteria for the desert cabins isn't actually being in the underground desert
any sand underground will work
raven vapor
yea its wierd
smoky dock
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT
raven vapor
standing inside counts as a desert biome btw
silver wadi
and it also generated desert loot
smoky dock
why do you think i like gilded proboscis
silver wadi
when tmelee works it slaps
smoky dock
hell yeah
untold pollen
i mean i true techinaclly true meleed almost all of hardmode
but i didnt really use a weapon
just slagsplitter
:3
nimble wing
so apparently the spawn criteria for the desert cabins isn't actually being in t...
terraria desert conditions make no sense
smoky dock
they're also fucking obnoxious
fym I need 1500 blocks of sand nearby? That's so much sand.
raven vapor
1500 sand/sandstone or just desert walls
i dont understand why the underground desert needs the walls for a biome
untold pollen
also erm ampoule didnt really have time to heal me i just realized i killed it in like 2.5min
smoky dock
It still halves the duration of Holy Flames and still has 150 seconds to give you regeneration
silver wadi
maybe the real sunken sea overhaul was the fucking WATER I DIG INTO WHILE MAKING MY HELLEVATOR
sick hazel
maybe the real sunken sea overhaul was the fucking WATER I DIG INTO WHILE MAKING...
just use insta hellevator from fargos qol mod
silver wadi
no
sick hazel
then get used to water flooding your enitre hellevator
silver wadi
as water is known for doing in hell
smoky dock
i will never use an insta hellivator
sick hazel
I think its quite obvious that i meant WHILST building it
crimson coral
theres a really broken build using oxygen tank from banished baron and aerialite enchant, i recommend trying that
sick hazel
would summoner deal more dmaage
with summoner a gust of wind blowing the wrong way will kill you
vale heart
theres a really broken build using oxygen tank from banished baron and aerialite...
for golem?
crimson coral
would summoner deal more dmaage
doubt it
vale heart
where could i find it
sick hazel
also get spectre enchant
what are enchants?
crimson coral
replace i think pure heart or whatever the green thing is called with spectre enchant
sick hazel
oh right never played it so thanks
silver wadi
i will never use an insta hellivator
yeah quite frankly after having instavators notoriously break shit they shouldn't break, or just in general fuck up cool worldgen, I'm done with them
smoky dock
no i just hate QoL
silver wadi
I'm also trying to cut back on QoL
sick hazel
yeah quite frankly after having instavators notoriously break shit they shouldn'...
I just use them for the aesthetics i dig the hole beforehand then it just fills in the walls
vale heart
theres a really broken build using oxygen tank from banished baron and aerialite...
where could i find this buil
d
crimson coral
where could i find this buil
?
vale heart
where could i find that build using oxygen tank
crimson coral
use wizard + aerialite enchant and the oxygen tank
silver wadi
no i just hate QoL
honestly, I feel like the bigger issue with QoL mods is less about how unbalanced they are individually, and more about how unbalanced they are stacked with each other
like alchNPC's whole idea of buying potions isn't a horribly unbalanced one, but as soon as you get another QoL mod that adds infinite buffs at 30 it's just busted
and no I will not address the custom potions added by alchNPC because those shouldn't be added by a "QoL" mod in the first place
smoky dock
I don't like QoL because it simply isn't necessadry
silver wadi
except excavation potion, you're cool
smoky dock
Nobody wants to spend so long on a handful of potions, so I just like, don't
Either I don't use the potions that take too long to get, or I find a better method to get more potions faster
humble marlin
-# my peanut brain forgot what bosses are there post golem that are calamity
vale heart
what do i change for summoner lowkey lost , do i add statis blessing and switch out something for spider enchant
sick hazel
-# my peanut brain forgot what bosses are there post golem that are calamity
i think plaguebringer and ravager
silver wadi
-# my peanut brain forgot what bosses are there post golem that are calamity
r*vager, plaguebringer, astrum deus but that one's post cultist
smoky dock
empress of light and duke fishron, too
humble marlin
right completely forgot abt plaguebringer
sick hazel
r*vager, plaguebringer, astrum deus but that one's post cultist
why censor ravager
silver wadi
so glad calamity added EoL and Fishron, redigit could never
silver wadi
why censor ravager
bad boss
sick hazel
so you removed the a...
smoky dock
neither is rang*r
sick hazel
whats wrong with ranger
smoky dock
I got RASHES just from HOLDING the Minishark
It's the polar opposite of my idologically required class
sick hazel
uh huh....
smoky dock
smoky dock
silva or fearmonger
Silva is the gold standard 'jack of all trades' set
Does everything well and it does nothing poorly
silver wadi
silva revive ❤️🔥
smoky dock
Fearmonger is generally weaker, trading away significant damage output for significant survivability
Both options are great choices, though
raven vapor
welp i just have to learn yharons dashing patterns
vale heart
ok best golem technique
raven vapor
summoner is goated btw
vale heart
have pumpkings cape and lump of flesh
then just parry everytime that rock wall from the head comes
free heal, no damage no stun and you deal alot of dmg
sick hazel
is this good for DOG
raven vapor
which class
sick hazel
mage
sick hazel
dont need it
smoky dock
Consider using Omega Blue armor over Bloodflare
sick hazel
Consider using Omega Blue armor over Bloodflare
how come
smoky dock
Also I'd highly suggest using Affliction
silver wadi
I would swap absorber, you're gonna be getting hit for way too much dmg
I would recommend Prismatic armor honestly
sick hazel
I would swap absorber, you're gonna be getting hit for way too much dmg
oh right i was fighting duke mb
smoky dock
big tentacles
raven vapor
whats so good about affliction
tight iron
Disagree with Omega Blue, you basically have to no hit with it
smoky dock
whats so good about affliction
defense, DR, max health, and damage at the same time
raven vapor
the tooltip clearly says in servers
silver wadi
affliction is basically a 100% community minus a couple mid stats, it's better in most cases
tight iron
this person said DoG
silver wadi
but yeah, highly recommend prismatic armor over bloodflare or tarragon, super easy to make as well, easily hits some stupid damage numbers if you play around the laser barrage
tight iron
the tooltip clearly says in servers
"Gives you and other players"
it doesnt say anything about multiplayer only
silver wadi
yeah
in other words it's even more busted in multiplayer because only one person has to run it for everyone to get the buffs
which is insane
tight iron
either way, in my experience Omega Blue isnt worth the risk becuase you're too squishy
smoky dock
Omega Blue is more fragile than Bloodflare, but it's still not fragile enough to get one-shot
tardy cedar
Disagree with Omega Blue, you basically have to no hit with it
dog already deals enough damage to not benefit alot from bloodflare
also cherished sealocket is all the bulk you need
humble marlin
im getting my ass handed by Eol 💔
smoky dock
Stardust armor is more vulnerable to OHKOs because it has less defense, so you need more defense in your setup to accomodate
silver wadi
but... but guys can we talk abt prismatic :(
tardy cedar
im getting my ass handed by Eol 💔
noob..
tight iron
dog already deals enough damage to not benefit alot from bloodflare
also cheri...
disagree, i did a defensive build vs dog and it worked great
humble marlin
disagree, i did a defensive build vs dog and it worked great
was u able to tank 3 hits
tardy cedar
why do you even want to tank infernum dog
tight iron
why do you even want to tank infernum dog
any attack that isnt the head
silver wadi
yall are acting like the only attack DoG does is the head
humble marlin
800 base (head)
750 body
silver wadi
which you should never be getting hit by if you know the fight
tardy cedar
any attack that isnt the head
those are piss easy to dodge for most ppl
smoky dock
he does like 700 damage per hit
That's why you use DR, max health, and defense
tight iron
those are piss easy to dodge for most ppl
yeah but the fight is even easier if you dont have to dodge them
silver wadi
^
smoky dock
Sealocket and Amalgamated Brain can dramatically reduce how strong these hits are
tight iron
i could tkae a lot more than 4 hits
humble marlin
for DoG its better to go for Iframes rather than defense
smoky dock
And then, with the healing from lifesteal and potions, you can safely take another hit
Possibly even more if you hit weaker hitboxes, yourr dodges recharge or you heal between hits
silver wadi
or you can do it all
crude oak
yeah but the fight is even easier if you dont have to dodge them
what attacks are there besides the head and lasers
tardy cedar
you benefit more from the damage from omega blue since dog is most the time dashing into you
crude oak
each laser pattern has a free way to dodge it
silver wadi
it's all preference on rather you'd have a safer but longer fight, or a faster but more punishing fight
tight iron
what attacks are there besides the head and lasers
the ending sequence with the portals is the big reason i went defensive because if you maximize for defense you dont have to worry about the choke check
crude oak
thats fair enough
tight iron
just looked back at my video and i took 140ish damage from the portal fire balls
so they're basically a non factor
smoky dock
it's all preference on rather you'd have a safer but longer fight, or a faster b...
this is pretty good summary
tight iron
easier said than done
crude oak
the timing is easy
tardy cedar
just myrindael
crude oak
just myrindael
goat
tight iron
the timing is easy
for you, man
crude oak
fair enough
idk ive fought it loads
if you keep playing youll probably get the timing down
tight iron
well i never plan on playing infernum again so
smoky dock
DoG is very learny, extremely difficult the first few times but gets easier quickly
silver wadi
well i never plan on playing infernum again so
smoky dock
More so than usual
raven vapor
i should probably get eye of magnus
humble marlin
fucking hell why does this mf do 500 damage
tardy cedar
who
humble marlin
i might just use blood pact
humble marlin
MD EoL
tight iron
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idk most of infernum is boring as hell for me becuase defensive builds are op and make you basically have god mode on for 80% of the game, and i only remember liking DoG and Yharon out of the post ml bosses
humble marlin
fuck it i'm using blood pact
humble marlin
What’s best class post golem
me
tardy cedar
ranger imo
turbid radish
what do i do now to advance more
tardy cedar
hell ranger for everything icl
raven vapor
what do i do now to advance more
beat scal and mars
cedar laurel
What’s best class post golem
Melee or summoner i think
turbid radish
beat scal and mars
bruh
tardy cedar
if you want some interesting shit use melee
Pretty close anyways
Or better I'm not too sure
turbid radish
so ranger is the best class for infernum hum?
turbid radish
which one, best for infernum
smoky dock
true melee? 🥺
vale heart
Ranger just sucks ass for everything
smoky dock
which one, best for infernum
summoner, no contest
tardy cedar
probably summoner
raven vapor
summoner
vale heart
I love you ❤️
turbid radish
I REFUSE TO PLAY SUMMONER
raven vapor
summoner is goated
turbid radish
smoky dock
Then don't play summoner
smoky dock
All the rest of them
tardy cedar
Ranger just sucks ass for everything
in infernum right...?
raven vapor
every difficulty
vale heart
Everything
tight iron
idk most of infernum is boring as hell for me becuase defensive builds are op an...
most of the hardmode bosses only have one or two attacks a defensive build cares about like this
raven vapor
unless you have the astrageldon armor
silver wadi
most of the hardmode bosses only have one or two attacks a defensive build cares...
ok tbf brimmy is one of the worst examples of infernum bosses
tight iron
ok tbf brimmy is one of the worst examples of infernum bosses
every boss is like this
with proper defensive build
in hardmode
maybe like
duke isnt
he hits like a truck iirc
silver wadi
also, if your problem is defensive builds, you could just use a less defensive build
defense builds, in or outside of infernum, tend to make shit mind numbingly easy
tight iron
why would i make the game harder on myself
silver wadi
source: melee tank player
smoky dock
also, if your problem is defensive builds, you could just use a less defensive b...
i did that and learned that offensive builds are bad and i should just start nohitting
silver wadi
why would i make the game harder on myself
isn't making the game harder on yourself the entire point of extra difficulties?
smoky dock
so now i'm a nohitter
sick hazel
guys omega blue armour is fucking legendary
tight iron
isn't making the game harder on yourself the entire point of extra difficulties?
I dont involve myself with extra difficultis. i dont play games for challenge
smoky dock
guys omega blue armour is fucking legendary
👍
vale heart
yea
tardy cedar
ok yeah rangers not coming close
vale heart
Was ranger then went mage then went rogue then went mage then I went rogue then I went ranger then I went mage then I went summoner
Now I’m post golem
humble marlin
dlc mage 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
silver wadi
I should try fargo's after I finish my current playthrough
tight iron
i forgot how close my yharon kill was
vale heart
i forgot how close my yharon kill was
I want you to die
Fucking playing with my feelings by using event horizon
smoky dock
Not even true melee?
tight iron
someone else had that same response when i beat it
whats the issue with event horizon
smoky dock
tight iron
this boss rams you a lot and event horizon spawns projetectiles on top of you
seems like a no-brainer
vale heart
use the downgrade of void vortex when he’s dashing and use recitation of the beast when he’s not
tight iron
what
silver wadi
art attack 🥀
tight iron
if you think i used event horizon becuase i looked up some video or guide i never looked at once, i tried many weapons and classes vs yharon
smoky dock
ture melee...
vale heart
And looks is everything
vale heart
ture melee...
Phaseslayer or whatever it’s called 🔥
night fractal
night prov
smoky dock
idk the world's your oyster
untold pollen
idk the world's your oyster
i dont want to be in an oyster
smoky dock
you have access to some of the strongest weapons and accessories in the game right now
turbid radish
can someone help me
i already have the seed
but she did the same quest again
like i did this yesterday
vale heart
Yeah she just spams this
just continue
playing
Brooo someone help I wana play but my cat is sleeping on my keyboard
untold pollen
tarragon or solar flare 🤔
smoky dock
tarragon
vale heart
well solar flare has higher damage i think but I’d use tarragon
humble marlin
this taking too long
humble marlin
well solar flare has higher damage i think but I’d use tarragon
it doesnt
humble marlin
since like almost a year ago lmao
vale heart
How do I get my cat off my keyboard 😭
vale heart
since like almost a year ago lmao
I’ve been told solar flare has higher by like a lot of people
fast valley
infernum plantera is just too easy
humble marlin
ive been told solar flare has lower damage and the same ammount of bulk than tarragon by a developer.
fast valley
ive been told solar flare has lower damage and the same ammount of bulk than tar...
really
night fractal
Being a dev means
fast valley
Being a dev means
was it you
night fractal
not much in terms of numbers
fast valley
soundds like you
night fractal
no
fast valley
ok
humble marlin
it was angel
fast valley
personally I prefer solar for ram
i despise solar
night fractal
L
fast valley
the ram ovverides other rams
night fractal
yeah
smoky dock
calamity developers are dumb and stupid
night fractal
because it's better than other rams
fast valley
it fucked with my low% run
fast valley
because it's better than other rams
It was inconsistent for me
night fractal
inconsistent how
fast valley
timing range if i was out then it would be different and it messed me up a few times
then mage then i win
dog
night fractal
simply plan better idk
smoky dock
you should have used a facetank cheese strat
night fractal
This is why solar peak
grizzled onyx
just use asgards valor
smoky dock
where puoldron
silent linden
Was planning on waiting until after my wedding to start infernum but that's like two and a half weeks away and my calamity autism hyperfixation cannot wait that long, so here's to my third calamity playthrough in a row
smoky dock
REAL
what do you plan to do this run?
you better give witch doctor the best house ever
fast valley
you better give witch doctor the best house ever
i dont like the witch docotor
he dont sell the wings anymore
smoky dock
Then perish
fast valley
Then perish
Do something about it
smoky dock
fast valley
Was planning on waiting until after my wedding to start infernum but that's like...
infernums peak
grizzled onyx
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1091210082605350995/1252062606626128074...
true melee needs a nerf
night fractal
just use asgards valor
It does literally one quarter of the damage
smoky dock
Explode
night fractal
200 vs 400x2
grizzled onyx
TM needs a minor nerf in damage
untold pollen
anyone here know why my games closing everytime i open magic storage
grizzled onyx
and a big buff in variety
night fractal
True Melee needs a nerf in range
grizzled onyx
True Melee needs a nerf in range
make it so that you have to be touching the boss to actually do damage
untold pollen
nvm reading logs it mighj be cuz of wotg
night fractal
does anyone have any interesting ideas for melee alcohols
silent linden
Planning on running ranged because my last two playthrough were melee (death/expert) and summoner (death/expert with WotG)
And I like ranged :D
raven vapor
True Melee needs a nerf in range
please be joking
untold pollen
anyone know why wotg would crash my game?
smoky dock
does anyone have any interesting ideas for melee alcohols
Vastly increased damage, vastly decreased speed
Slower projectile speed, possibly
night fractal
+200% melee size
smoky dock
YEAH
grizzled onyx
does anyone have any interesting ideas for melee alcohols
How about:
40% damage
60% reduced speed
night fractal
Wait actually
grizzled onyx
+200% melee size
but it doesnt affect true melee weapons
smoky dock
Hellkite with +size -spd would go so fucking hard
but i don't think it'd get affected by melee speed
night fractal
+50% melee size
+15% melee dmg
-25% melee speed
grizzled onyx
i like it
night fractal
Hellkite with +size -spd would go so fucking hard
It probably doesn't get size in the rework
my reworked fancy melee swords get both size and speed
grizzled onyx
what alcohol should it go to
night fractal
ale
silent linden
anyone know why wotg would crash my game?
At what point is it crashing?
grizzled onyx
makes sense
smoky dock
Maybe Sake could be the opposite
night fractal
-50% melee size
smoky dock
Use them both at once and I personally smite you
untold pollen
At what point is it crashing?
i load in start moving 5s later game closes without an error and i just assume its wotg cause logs say noxusboss like 20 times
night fractal
Looks like it's probably due to books
specifically the ones dropping from trees
or something
idk
Can't really tell
I'm sure WotG discord might know mlre
untold pollen
alr ill try there
grizzled onyx
waitwaitwait
i have an idea for an enchantment buff
make resentful and tainted work on true melee
smoky dock
wrath of the gods is pretty unstable right now unfortunately
RESENTFUL DRAGON RAGE please i'm begging you
also buff resentful
or don't, because it's really funny not to
raven vapor
post ml melee needs a buff imo
smoky dock
proof?
silent linden
Yeah I crashed during nameless deity twice, and also crashed after I killed him and it tried to take me back to the title screen
silent linden
Not a my computer issue, I think it's because I died to chalice of the blood god during a phase transition
smoky dock
explode
grizzled onyx
stellar striker is too strong so it needs to be gone
humble marlin
holy shit this took too long
untold pollen
i cant even finda wotg discord
smoky dock
stellar striker is too strong so it needs to be gone
is that like, a genuine sentiment or
grizzled onyx
yes
smoky dock
or just bait
untold pollen
nvm i found it
smoky dock
i've never used stellar striker
grizzled onyx
i only think weapons should be removed if
A: it is a donor weapon and said donor wants it gone
or B: It is a boring and useless weapon
grizzled onyx
i've never used stellar striker
the TM post ML upgrade to comet quasher
how havent you used it
grizzled onyx
try it
smoky dock
I usually just fight Dragonfolly with Astral Blade until I get Proboscis
because i love me my probscos
silent linden
I've used it and it's great but every time I've used it on a boss I've found a better option
strong cypress
i remember stellar striker being the only option for supreme calamitas back in the day
you would put down a dummy to trigger the misseles and thats how you would do scal
lmfao
grizzled onyx
I usually just fight Dragonfolly with Astral Blade until I get Proboscis
bruh
is Astral Blade good
smoky dock
Yes, of course
It's not better than Stellar Striker or Gilded Proboscis
I can tell you that for sure
grizzled onyx
yknow, looking at all the ores Cal has
i think that Cal has a tad bit of bias towards melee
just a tad bit
smoky dock
But like, do you really think I go out of my way to use meta every time?
strong cypress
looks at ark of the cosmos muramasa and exoblade, looks away
yep no melee bias here
raven vapor
they need more damage/less i frames
smoky dock
When I can just use whatever shitass from two and a half tiers ago and win ten minutes faster?
grizzled onyx
all the shadowspec melee weapons have garbage stats
triactuses paladian hammer of might
raven vapor
thats just one
strong cypress
i remember when nanoblack reaper could be melee
grizzled onyx
Earth
strong cypress
was pretty fucking good
raven vapor
and it isnt that good
grizzled onyx
EARTH
strong cypress
and yea earth remains beyond broken
you can face tank half of the boss rush with that lol
raven vapor
but earth has less stats than zenith , i think it should remain as is
grizzled onyx
its DPS is ridiculously high
raven vapor
zenith needs buff
smoky dock
Earth needs the lifesteal cap removed
grizzled onyx
Earth needs the lifesteal cap removed
oh god
grizzled onyx
what would happen if this happened
smoky dock
you have demonshade armor
grizzled onyx
you would go to full in half a microsecond
strong cypress
thats what it used to do yes
grizzled onyx
yknow what
strong cypress
literally 500 healing in 2 swings
smoky dock
You could use Earth, Zenith or Tragic Umbrella and your killtimes will differ by no more than ten seconds
raven vapor
yes zenith is good against both of them it dosent matter , but it has to be on tier with other auric weapons
strong cypress
zenith is good
smoky dock
So much heavy lifting comes from the armor set
strong cypress
i literally used it vs exo mechs
grizzled onyx
illustrious knifes shouldnt have a cap to lifesteal
it is an ENDGAME WEAPON that is BASED ON LIFESTEAL
strong cypress
zenith has like 30k dps on ares give or take
raven vapor
or even better , the cap can exist , but the cooldown should be yeeted
strong cypress
tbh this convo is irrelevant cuz once content that can actually use these weapons gets released they will all be yeeted to the ground
they are all overtuned like crazy lol
same as the armor
raven vapor
i am just not a fan of a lifesteal cd
i shouldnt wait 5 years because i healed 20 hp
strong cypress
just dont get hit
kek
i dont think we need more healing tbh
dreadon heart is plenty busted
raven vapor
or maybe regen pots can scale like ironskin and warding
after all it is flat increase and not % based
strong cypress
idk i think recovery is still in a very good spot
untold pollen
no responses from wotg discord but i guess im just not gonna go near solyn since thast whats crashing it
raven vapor
no responses from wotg discord but i guess im just not gonna go near solyn since...
maybe theyre asleep 💤
strong cypress
in infernum you SHOULD die to some things
dog noming you, death lazers, yharon dashes
etc
silver wadi
ok there was a little bit of water in my hellevator
raven vapor
wait it out
silent linden
no responses from wotg discord but i guess im just not gonna go near solyn since...
could potentially be a book attempting to spawn, one has a chance to spawn near her at dawn every day
untold pollen
could potentially be a book attempting to spawn, one has a chance to spawn near ...
managed to get it to work somehow by just breaking the flag and placing it back down
no clue how that helped
silent linden
well at least it worked, doesn't matter how
silver wadi
dog noming you, death lazers, yharon dashes
imo, nothing should be a one shot, two shots are fine
though, in all fairness, that's why dodges exist
untold pollen
well at least it worked, doesn't matter how
only thing is she keeps saying shes homeless now
vale heart
yeah most of the time in endgame i litteraly just leave
tulip yacht
im seriously surprised that theres not been a progression guide created for all of the main calamity addons
especially with how nuanced some of them are
vale heart
maybe because you need to experiment and find out
and for almost every single calamity addon its so similar theres no point
maybe a few accessorys
tulip yacht
theres simply far too much stuff to just screw around and figure out what works
vale heart
which addons r u talking about specifically
tulip yacht
like i will active need to look for summoner items in a recipe viewer to even know they exist
tulip yacht
which addons r u talking about specifically
wrath of the gods, hunt of the old god, cataclysm
silver wadi
was about to say, WoTG doesn't add any new equipment
vale heart
also the seeds you get along the way just by talking to solyn
tulip yacht
wrath of the gods fym
you asked what i was using
vale heart
no i was asking what addons are you talking about that needs a guide
silent linden
they asked what addons u were talking about that needed a guide
tulip yacht
oh sorry
silver wadi
Catalyst is fairly simple, the weapons are on par with prov drops and the armor is on par with pre-DoG
and as for the goozma stuff, I'd have to mess around with it more
but all I can confidently say is Slippery Shogun genuinely competes with Demonshade for me
tulip yacht
right
silver wadi
the free wings with infinite flight + everything else is just so good
silent linden
does infernum get rid of the sulphurous sea chests?
i know it gets rid of abyss chests
silver wadi
no, the sulphurous sea ones are still there
silent linden
weird that i havent seen any of them then
was trying to get a hold of the rusty medallion but i couldnt find a single chest
steep cobalt
to commemorate solyn's unprecedented return
silent linden
im wondering if my world may have genned bad because worldgen previewer got stuck generating the abyss and then it just opened
silver wadi
im wondering if my world may have genned bad because worldgen previewer got stuc...
it does that normally
ohh
untold pollen
to commemorate solyn's unprecedented return
after what bullshit just happened this brings me unimaginable joy
silent linden
yeah my b forgot to include that part when i sent the message
unless the bottom part of the abyss doesnt gen in infernum it very well may have goofed
steep cobalt
the world elected to revert the defeat of mars, avatar and nd
hence solyn's presence despite my triumph over avatar a few months back
the world once again shit itself
silent linden
gonna use the fargo's map revealer and take a look at my worldgen to see if i need to possibly try making another world
yeah i know infernum changes abyss generation but that seems off
patent girder
whats wrong with it
silent linden
not too worried bc it might just be intended to be a primordial wyrm arena but not sure
silent linden
worldgen got stuck on abyss generation and then skipped the rest of the things in worldgen preview, theres no rusty chests in my sulphurous sea
steep cobalt
so
patent girder
one of the chests get removed on purpose idk if its rusty chest or another
steep cobalt
should i redo mars and avatar?
silent linden
it was abyss chests
mossy trench
why would they make it harder to charge adrenaline in infernum
silent linden
that are removed in infernum
silver wadi
why would they make it harder to charge adrenaline in infernum
because adrenaline is OP as shit
mossy trench
how I love you rover drive
i was farming it for 2 hours in the world where i needed it, and got 2 on accident where i dont
mossy trench
because adrenaline is OP as shit
they could nerf the damage, not the time it needs to charge
silver wadi
yeah, that's the only part I don't like about it
untold pollen
fuck trying to get rover drive
silver wadi
I would agree with that, yeah
kinda what was proposed already for adrenaline, nerfing the dmg but making it not decay on hit, just stop generating
mossy trench
kinda what was proposed already for adrenaline, nerfing the dmg but making it no...
damn would be cool if they add that
silent linden
worldgen got stuck on abyss generation and then skipped the rest of the things i...
Update: I think I got too stoned before I played last night bc I found the rusty chests. Though I've only found 3, haven't found the one with the medallion in it which is the one thing I want lol