calamity-addon-talk

[crude oak]

np

[grim void]

infernum moonlord melee- rn im using entropic claymore for my main weapon

all are on warding

[little steppe]

yes

[grim void]

is master ninja gear or asgardian aegis better for ml fight

[little steppe]

shimmer now has a chance of giving you the items if you throw potions iirc

so it can..not give you the items

that or theyre straight up not shimmerable I dont remember

[little steppe]

ninja gear if you have kb resistance from something else or you dont really care about that

[grim void]

ic

[grim void]

would swapping any of these out for the community be better

[little steppe]

community sucks

but HotE also sucks, get absorber instead

and ambrosial ampoule over angel threads

[grim void]

yeah i spent the time getting hote then realized they nerfed the healing orbs

15 and you have to run into them 🧱

[grave marsh]

astrum deus is dead that was literally first try of me using buffs lmao

why did it say it twice

[smoky dock]

entropic claymore demands using true melee hits to deal reasonable damage

and at that point, why not just use true melee?

[tight iron]

uh does it?

ive used it for moon lord multiple times

as just a braindead homing option

[smoky dock]

That's right

It exchanges damage for ease of use and versatility

[tight iron]

yeah but it stil does reasonable damage

its not like you're taking forever to kill the boss

[smoky dock]

I... guess it's reasonable but it's still pretty unnecessarily long

What kinda killtimes are you getting?

[untold pollen]

what should i use against profaned guardians weapons / accessories wise

[tight iron]

i dont know its like a year ago let me see if i can find a clip

[untold pollen]

current loadout

[grim void]

i suck so much ass at aiming its almost sickening

[smoky dock]

none of the tmelee options for this fight require aim

[grave marsh]

astral armor :3

[grim void]

these are all of the weapons ive tried so far and all of them ive found to be worse than entropic

[smoky dock]

you're either... there's either a hitbox or not a hitbox

how did Picksaw do

[crude oak]

Ggggg

[untold pollen]

are u on infernum or normal

[grim void]

infernum

[crude oak]

entropic the goat

[untold pollen]

kill giant sand shark and use myrindael

so good

[smoky dock]

usually when i fight moon lord i get a kill time of about 1:00

sometimes a bit higher, 1:30-ish

[tight iron]

dont have an exact timer but i found a clip where i had 2m left on my endurance potion, and i dont reapply buffs mid fight

so between 2 to 3 min

and 2 to 3 min on a boss is reasonable kill time

[smoky dock]

That's better than I was expecting

[untold pollen]

what do i use against guardians though

melee

[smoky dock]

That's pretty reasonable, yeah

[tight iron]

the thing about that i remember from the fight

[crude oak]

ark of the cosmos

[grim void]

uhhh idk how fast im doing

[crude oak]

or stellar contempt

ark of the elements i mean

[tight iron]

is that entropic is so easy to use you get Adrenaline very easily

[grim void]

is that figure with full menacing/lucky or warding

[smoky dock]

warding

[tight iron]

alwyas use warding

[smoky dock]

i can't remember the last time I didn't use warding outside of a nohit

always use warding

[untold pollen]

whay accessories though

[grave marsh]

any suggestions before i try ml?

i could get ursa

[untold pollen]

absorber goated

[tight iron]

id personally not use boots

[smoky dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465195069406707722/1258796027469627454/ursaSergeantPet.gif

[tight iron]

but thats taste

[grave marsh]

true

[reef cove]

Okay I can't do this stupid fight. Its so slow its baiting me

[grave marsh]

i like the accelleration and flight time

[tight iron]

thats fair

[smoky dock]

which one?

[smoky dock]

Consider Fishron wings

[past pagoda]

ew heat of elementals

[grave marsh]

i feel like i should get reaper tooth necklace

[smoky dock]

pre-ML?

[past pagoda]

dont

[smoky dock]

two of them

[grave marsh]

imma assume that isnt possible

[smoky dock]

it's not

[grave marsh]

or smth

WHY IS IT TAKING TEN YEARS TO SEND

[smoky dock]

connection momento

i hate computers

[crude oak]

its so over

[grim void]

okay so i opened core at 2:10

[grim void]

maybe entropic is bad 💀

[smoky dock]

two minutes for the eyes

[grave marsh]

the only thing idk how to get in absorber is baroclaw

[smoky dock]

It's not bad, you just need to play more aggressively

[smoky dock]

then you know how to get Baroclaw

[crude oak]

craw carapace and smt else

[grave marsh]

oh

[smoky dock]

(shimmer Giant Shells)

[grave marsh]

i see

nvm

[grave marsh]

i found it

[crude oak]

am i goated

[smoky dock]

inject the shimmer directly into my veins

I love it so much

[grave marsh]

it's craw carapace and depth cells

[grave marsh]

that would kill you

you know that right

[smoky dock]

proof?

[crude oak]

two yharon times

Using the best weapon in the game

[grim void]

do you have a recommendation for a weapon that has higher dps but also doesnt require me to aim like at all

[smoky dock]

no phaseslayer?

[grave marsh]

well injecting literal air into your veins can kill you if you don't do it correctly. water is almost guaranteed to do that. what makes shimmer different

[smoky dock]

depends on what you define as "aim"

[crude oak]

fuuuck

[grim void]

like

daybreak does not count

[grave marsh]

why are there two yharons

[grim void]

briny baron and entropic claymore both are wonderful

but neither of them deal damage

[smoky dock]

astral blade 👍

[grim void]

thats true melee

[crude oak]

can we do it

[smoky dock]

my experience on melee is pretty much down in the fucking dirt, though

[tight iron]

i mean if there was a weapon that had both really high dps and was super easy to use

itd be a bad weapon

[grim void]

i'm terrible at the game why am i playing true melee

[smoky dock]

I can tell you about true melee!

[grim void]

man

[waxen tide]

flairon

[smoky dock]

what the hell is flairon

[crude oak]

so close ❤️

[smoky dock]

is it like, a fkn lion?

[grim void]

the bubble flail from fishron 💀

[smoky dock]

what are you talking about

[grim void]

fck it bro ill try it

it homes

[crude oak]

gg ❤️

[grim void]

entropic claymore felt insane because before i started using it, i was using scourge of the corruptor

insane dps increase 🔥

[crude oak]

holy shit

[grim swallow]

An interesting fact
This run made me hate infernum scal more than any super boss that was fought this run

And I fought like 4

(goozma, geldon, AoE, Nameless deity)

[grave marsh]

idk where to efficiently farm craw carapac and giant shell

[smoky dock]

skeleton merchant

he just kinda... sells them

[grave marsh]

skeleton merchant is nowhere to be seen where i'm at

[smoky dock]

In the future, make it a habit to collect one of each early on

[solar badger]

Walking on thin ice

[inland dagger]

is this exo mechs or supreme calamitas?

[smoky dock]

Two of one is OK too

[grave marsh]

bro expects me to do this again (real)

[crude oak]

rough

Im soooooooo goated

[smoky dock]

He spawns like any mob in the cavern layer so you can just go down there with spawn rate buffs and kill shit 'til he appears

[grave marsh]

is that fortnite

[crude oak]

yeah

[smoky dock]

I think there's another method to get it, though...

I can't remember.

[solar badger]

mods, send in goozma

[grave marsh]

i brought zerg greater luck and battle

[grave marsh]

killing

[grave marsh]

nah

[smoky dock]

well, obviously

[grave marsh]

fire

[smoky dock]

But there's a more efficient way...

[grave marsh]

genocide

[crude oak]

NICE ONE

[smoky dock]

Mm, no, I'm wrong

Only comes from Crawdads and Giant Shellies

[grim void]

why ambrosial ampoule over angel treads

[smoky dock]

defensive accessory 👍

generally, the 2.0/2.5 acceleration mult wings have good enough mobility that the opportunity cost of angel treads starts to become ehhhhh

[crude oak]

gg

[grim swallow]

Also guys

[smoky dock]

They're OK to use, it's not wrong to use Angel Treads

[grim swallow]

Under what circumstances does the dance of light does the flash

[smoky dock]

It's just up to preference

[grim swallow]

Because during both AoE and ND my screen sometimes flashed white

[grave marsh]

giant shell

acquired

[grim void]

ampoule when i havent even maxed life fruits feels a little silly

i should prolyl do that

[grave marsh]

craw acquired

[smoky dock]

oh rad

gud scheisse

[smoky dock]

oh shit you havent gotten life fruits? lmao

also consider the Blood Orange, Miracle Fruit and the permanent shimmer buffs

[grim void]

so idk how to use shimmer

havent ever seen it ingame

[smoky dock]

It's easy

You just throw the item into the liquid, and it'll pop out as a different thing

If an item has no valid transmutation (or if it's locked by progression) then the item will do nothing and sit at the bottom

It has a lot of strange properties and way more transmutations, so experiment and see what happens with a variety of things

[grim void]

interesting

[smoky dock]

The permanent shimmer buffs are permanent bonuses to your stats obtained via transmuting certain items

[grim void]

where do i find it

[smoky dock]

Check the pins in #help-advice-read-pins, I think

[smoky dock]

These items are the Life Crystal, Mana Crystal, Life Fruit, any fruit item that isn't Grapes, Pink Pearl, Gold Worm, Peddler's Hat, and Spellbook

[lean oak]

what the hell is this menu theme?

just static noices and darkness

[smoky dock]

The ones most relevant to combat are the Life Crystal, Mana Crystal and Life Fruit

[lean oak]

and someones speakers like its bottom of ocean trying to spell morsecode

[smoky dock]

wrath of the gods?

[lean oak]

yes

[crude oak]

games too easy

[grim swallow]

You know

[lean oak]

also question

does everlasting light mess up with rift eclipse

[grim swallow]

I wanna see how easy the game is with like a gazillion defense and regen

So next run im doing a true melee run

[smoky dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893924166925955104/1268262256693612554/trueMeleeLocket.gif

[nimble wing]

infernum true melee detected

[smoky dock]

ironically if you want a gazillion defense and regen

[nimble wing]

please ping me if you need advice or such

[smoky dock]

you should actually switch up your class based on whatever gives the most defense and regen

[smoky dock]

(please do this we're begging u)

[grave marsh]

i switch based on damage

and what i like

[nimble wing]

chat do i get the queen bee nohit over with or move on to skele

[grave marsh]

am i good for ml

[nimble wing]

i have a good strat down now, but qb is really janky and annoying

[grim swallow]

No no no

[night fractal]

angel treads are peak up until post-ml where they fall off a cliff

[grave marsh]

i also have star of destruction*

[night fractal]

except for vortex/nebula wings

[grim swallow]

Im not gonna do THAT

[nimble wing]

which absolutely should not be used over solar or stardust anyway

[grim swallow]

That requires me to constantly check the wiki to know what should I use

[night fractal]

funny damage

funny hover

[nimble wing]

less flight time iirc
less speed
hover isn't practical most of the time

[grave marsh]

i fucking hate this guy

[night fractal]

hover is very much practical

a lot of the time

[grave marsh]

why does he make me spent all my money for reforges i dont want

[nimble wing]

okay i should have said doesn't seem practical

sorrgy

[night fractal]

hover is the goat i won't take this slander

[nimble wing]

i will agree on betsy hover though

betsy wings goated

[grim swallow]

Dont remember a single time when I had said "man if only I had hover" tho but maybe thats just me

[night fractal]

betsy hover is literally

identical

[smoky dock]

just use everythibg

[lean oak]

what even are those health bars?

[grave marsh]

what hover? hoverboard?

[grim swallow]

Nah I'll just stick to true melee

[smoky dock]

Recipe Browser has a function which will display every armor set bonus currently initialized

[grim swallow]

And what addons I should add to the true melee run that will be done in like july

[smoky dock]

It is sorted by defense, which kinda sucks but it’s still vastly easier than the alternative

[grave marsh]

how do you fight bereft vassal

[smoky dock]

infernum is pretty helpful

[smoky dock]

like, in general?

[grim swallow]

Bro I played without infernum once

0 times in solo

[smoky dock]

Good, because basecal tmelee sux

As for other addons

[grave marsh]

no like, how do i get there

[smoky dock]

consider

[grim swallow]

Infernum feels like the base for me

[smoky dock]

In the very center of your underground desert, use the Sandstorm’s Core on the altar

[grim swallow]

HotOG catalyst and WotG are staying

Thats 100%

[grave marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-gif-14663292704966997212

[smoky dock]

me

[grim swallow]

What other should I add

[grave marsh]

idkwherethatis😭

[smoky dock]

i use mechscope

[grim swallow]

That have 0 connection to fargos at all

[grave marsh]

i am john pain

[grim swallow]

?

[smoky dock]

your underground desert

[grim swallow]

Elaborate

[night fractal]

time to shill

doze's calamity weapon overhaul

[smoky dock]

it generates in an oval shape exactly once in the world

Find it and go to the middle

in Infernum, it’s always on the right side of the world

[grim swallow]

Tbh I'll probably add the master mode shit

[smoky dock]

dont

if you want higher stats, use Fargo’s Mutant Mod

[grim swallow]

Okay

Why not tho

[smoky dock]

Use the health and damage configuration sliders within

[grave marsh]

idkwherethemiddleiscauseineverbotheredtoexploreitandmydesertislikeentirelytakenoverbyhallowbecauseit'sannoying:333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333

[smoky dock]

loads of bugs

The patch doesn’t make master mode work

[grim swallow]

Oh wait

Does that mean I can just turn every boss into a glass cannon

[smoky dock]

All the patch does is lift the arbitrary restriction

No there’re minimums

I think

[grim swallow]

Like 10% hp but 1000% damage?

[smoky dock]

that might be possible

[night fractal]

does it go below 100%

[grave marsh]

infernum hp bars are bugged for lunar pillars

[smoky dock]

i’m not sure

[smoky dock]

known issue 😔

[grave marsh]

:3

[grim swallow]

Oh wait I remembered

[grave marsh]

SEND THE MESSAGES

STOP TAKING YEARS

[grim swallow]

That one calamity addon that adds the fandom wiki schizophrenia shit

Whats it called

[smoky dock]

Calamity Community Remix

Don’t do CCR + WotG

[grim swallow]

Ugh why not this time

[smoky dock]

If you want to play CCR, I think it’s best to go into it blind, by itself, with no restrictions

[humble marlin]

ccr is so funny their lastest changelog is something along the lines of
"added wulfrum frog launcher"

[night fractal]

yeah uh

CCR is a standalone experience ideally

[grim swallow]

If no restrictions means like multi class type shit then I cant

[smoky dock]

WotG already has some serious performance issues right now and the sweeping, dramatic and game-wide changes can step on each others’ toes

[fading dove]

finally, calamity is playable

[grim swallow]

Wont it be too easy then

[night fractal]

no

[smoky dock]

No, I mean just don’t do some bullshit fucking challenge like “No limbs”

[night fractal]

CCR is

[night fractal]

a unique kind of hard

[fading dove]

i have no idea if ccr is hard but its definitely a fever dream

[smoky dock]

Don’t do a playthrough you’d put on youtube

[smoky dock]

OMG HIII RED <333

[fading dove]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GREEN DEMON

[night fractal]

i think a regular CCR playthrough IS peak youtube content

tbh

[smoky dock]

Mm

[night fractal]

like

it's basically youtube clickbait personified

[humble marlin]

With maxor type edition

[grim swallow]

Who fed me both the trip mushrooms and nilk at the same time bro

[fading dove]

I played CALAMITY COMMUNITY REMIX for 100 DAYS!!! | FULL MOVIE

[smoky dock]

Well don’t play it like you’re trying to… impress someone? Challenge yourself?

[grim swallow]

My brain is already fried from that thing

[smoky dock]

Experiencing CCR is the challenge in and of itself

[night fractal]

oh yeah

CCR is a unique type of difficuly

[smoky dock]

It’s an acid trip

[night fractal]

very different from everything else in the cal sphere

[grim swallow]

Yk

[maiden fjord]

Calamity : Community Remix - A Misfortune Trip to Jankiness

[grim swallow]

What if I do ccr but with extra tripping

[smoky dock]

tripping as in like

[grim swallow]

I give myself like infinite debuff from the thingy from wotg

[smoky dock]

super smash bros brawl

[night fractal]

no

just

just do CCR alone

if you do it

[fading dove]

i think permanent nilk would make the game unplayable

[smoky dock]

that’ll just cause you eye strain

[fading dove]

oh yeah that too

[smoky dock]

it’ll physically hurt you

[grim swallow]

I would have asked if there is a certain thing I remember but it probably is in ccr

[smoky dock]

just fast forward through that playthrough and just stare at the sun for a while

same experience

[maiden fjord]

ku kuru kuru kuru kuru 🔄

[fading dove]

sun goes a bit faster but yeah

[night fractal]

i added two whole features to CCR

[smoky dock]

YO?

[night fractal]

Polyphemalus (which is also a standalone mod)

[smoky dock]

I love that game!

It was at my local Fun Spot way back when I was a whelp

[fading dove]

what if there was an 8 eye boss

[night fractal]

and the thing where recipes have a random low chance to have a stackable ingredient go up or down in quantity by one

or a very low chance to double the required amount

[smoky dock]

oh my god that’s amazing

[grim swallow]

Maybe I should to try and play fargos

Is fargo worth that

Because it seems hella hard to understand

[fading dove]

souls is delicious 🤤

[smoky dock]

Make it apply to items in your inventory too

[night fractal]

so sometimes your recipes will just be off slightly

[smoky dock]

Yet you’re considering CCR?

[fading dove]

a lot of the difficulty just applies to trial and error

[maiden fjord]

for starter, play eternity mode first

[smoky dock]

^

[fading dove]

oh yeah ccr is absolutely more confusing than souls

[night fractal]

CCR sounds like the antithesis of what you want

honestly

[grim swallow]

I mean maybe

[night fractal]

if you're expecting a normal content mod

[grim swallow]

But it at least got a base that I know

[night fractal]

you're in the wrong place with ccr

[smoky dock]

There is no good guide
There is vague advice
There is no definitive guide

Experiment and find out

If you’re willing to do that, you’ll love Souls

[night fractal]

the base is barely recognizable

[grim swallow]

Yeahh

[smoky dock]

If you’re not willing to do that, you’ll hate Souls

[night fractal]

CCR is very good at it's purpose

[smoky dock]

^^^^^

[night fractal]

which is expressly to be a meme mod

[smoky dock]

literal perfection

johnathan wishes it could be as good as CCR

[grim swallow]

But I have checked the acid trip wiki like a year ago or so I kinda have an understanding of its insanity

839373 billion versions of cryogen yes?

[fading dove]

im gonna actually do a ccr playthrough once i finish my maso run

[smoky dock]

Yeah

My favorite is Carcinogen

[grim swallow]

I know its harder than maso

[night fractal]

wait until alloy bars or whatever

[fading dove]

hydrogen 🤤

[smoky dock]

although Pnictogen is up there too

[grim swallow]

Oxygen

[fading dove]

maso is harder than eternity

maso's the bonus difficulty for playing on master
eternity's expert

[smoky dock]

it’s called masochist mode for a reason

[maiden fjord]

also clamity is like, another funny addon

[smoky dock]

clamity!!!

[night fractal]

like this

[grim swallow]

Okay so is eternity if its the easier one harder than infernum

[smoky dock]

can i eat them

[grim swallow]

Probably yeah?

[fading dove]

depends on who you ask

imo infernum's way easier than eternity until you get to postml

[smoky dock]

infernum vs. eternity is debatable

[fading dove]

generally you'll get that postml infernum is harder

[grim swallow]

So they are lioe similar

[maiden fjord]

Calamity : Community Remix - Enter the Calamitous Zone [ft. Clamity]

[smoky dock]

more or less

[grim swallow]

Okay so I should do a maso run

[nimble wing]

okay i got qb under 22% and she did charges, stingers, and decided to go ahead and charge again

[grim swallow]

Oh wait no eternity

I confused the 2

[nimble wing]

is this what malice qb felt like

[grim swallow]

Eternity first
Then masochist
Then masodeath

[smoky dock]

how’re you dealing with the hornets

[grim swallow]

Tbh I though eternity was harder than maso for some reason

[smoky dock]

because I fucking hated them

[grim void]

okay turns out that the extra like 100 hp and effectively doubled life regen kinda helped

💀

[smoky dock]

regen is so gooted

I forgot ampoule gave max HP tbh

Completely dead stat that exists for no reason

[night fractal]

ampoule is so cracked

now that it got fixed

[smoky dock]

Ampoule rocks

[night fractal]

i need to nerf radiance

[smoky dock]

🥺

[grim swallow]

And nerf rogue while you're at it

[inland dagger]

any1 know why this happens? after the the mist is gone my screen just shakes until i restart my gmae

[nimble wing]

i'm not

actually they somehow like

cease to exist when they leave the screen

[smoky dock]

deadass???

what the fuck?

[grim swallow]

So eternity it is

But not now I have other plans

[smoky dock]

tbh what pissed me off about the hornets most was the hive she drops to summon them

it had the perfect trajectory to get me killed like, twenty times

[grim void]

oh that wasnt even ampoule

i stuck with treads

i just didnt have like 10 life fruits and any of the perm upgrades

very very good gameplay

[grim swallow]

Also I heard that fargo is like shit in terms of sprite design and stuff like that

Is it true

[smoky dock]

oh lane

Oh that makes sense

huh

i mean, I don’t personally like them but I wouldn’t call the art bad by any stretch of the imagination

[maiden fjord]

the swarmer + hive pack 🤤

[desert fjord]

Brooo

[smoky dock]

i need to double check what hive pack does

[smoky dock]

o shit that’s pretty cool!

[desert fjord]

Tyyy

[maiden fjord]

okay that's goated hello?

[fading dove]

no

[desert fjord]

Is for the

[maiden fjord]

very nice

[grim swallow]

Yeah gd isnt a normal game

[smoky dock]

It doesn’t say so… I’ll assume that it has a 50% chance to increase base damage by 0.5-3, gives it a 33% chance to summon a bonus bee, and gives it 5 armor penetration

[desert fjord]

I am doing the gaurdian right now

[smoky dock]

Oh, also has a 100% chance to boost base damage by 5 and a 50% chance increase pierce by 1

[grave marsh]

ngl for moonlord jewel is better than absorber

[night fractal]

uh

[smoky dock]

which jewel

[night fractal]

absorber is like

[inland dagger]

what is this

[grave marsh]

astrum aureus one

[night fractal]

insanely broken

[humble marlin]

crown

[smoky dock]

Infected Jewel

[desert fjord]

Dreadon

[smoky dock]

doesn’t work

on moom lord

[night fractal]

why is jewel good for moon lord

[grave marsh]

it does

[inland dagger]

what

[maiden fjord]

dron

[smoky dock]

What exactly does it do to help

[grave marsh]

i got the effect from it when he hit me

[grave marsh]

+16 defense and more regen

if you get hit

[grim swallow]

Okay also
Since im gonna do fargos before doing infernum on all classes who should I pick for fargos

Melee probably?

[fading dove]

don't stick to one class

[smoky dock]

It works on a whitelist system, I doubt that Moon Bite is on that whitelist

[night fractal]

that's still worse

also how sure are you that it works

[desert fjord]

Thoes who know

[night fractal]

i don't think Moon Bite is on the whitelist

[fading dove]

you'll have a pretty bad time with a certain point

0.4x damage for 3/5 of a boss 🤤

[grave marsh]

i got the effect when he hit me, so i assume it does

[night fractal]

hmm ok

[smoky dock]

Do you think you could get a video

[night fractal]

either way though absorber is still better

[smoky dock]

I’m out right now so I can’t really check the source code

[grave marsh]

i saw it with my own two eyes

[smoky dock]

also absorber is pretty crazy

[humble marlin]

16 def/+2hps/better natural regen(?

20 def/10dr/3 regen

[grave marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-gif-14663292704966997212

[smoky dock]

I don’t doubt it much, but I want to see if it’s specifically the jewel working

[humble marlin]

mind you the 16 def is only added after being hit and not constantly like absorber's 10

[night fractal]

absorber is 10

not 20

[grim swallow]

I will stick to one class

[humble marlin]

the numbers are close guh

[grave marsh]

which only activates if you use a heal

which has a large cooldown unless you have heal spam idels

items*

[smoky dock]

also a 5% health rebate and 12% jump speed and a 250 DPS/0.5x DR debuff and 8% damage

[night fractal]

eternity literally forces multiclass on moon lord iirc

absorber is

10 defense
move/jump speed
knockback immunity
5% "DR" that ignores DR scaling (the health refund)

and then the uh

regenaga aura

[humble marlin]

you can always commit to an 11 minute moonlord with rogue

[smoky dock]

The Regeneraga sphere lasts a long time, plus the effect lasts for ten more seconds
If you’re inside it when it despawns, it’ll be there for like… 60% of the time?

[night fractal]

pretty sure regenaga aura can even clear moon bite which is really good

[grave marsh]

not happening

[smoky dock]

I forgot it purges debuffs

[humble marlin]

i wasnt talking abt u

[night fractal]

66% yearh

[grave marsh]

the jewel effect lasts the entire duration of the debuff and gradually declines once it runs out

[smoky dock]

I completely overlooked the debuff purge but recently I’m like, hell yeah

[night fractal]

ok but

that ignores everything else absorber does

[smoky dock]

it also declines the longer you have it iirc

[night fractal]

like the fact Absorber Affliction does 400 dps to moon lord for 15 seconds if you purposely take contact dmg

[smoky dock]

500 DPS*

[night fractal]

no

[smoky dock]

And also reduces its DR

[grim swallow]

Then I wont play eternity

[night fractal]

200 base dps

[smoky dock]

Change it to 250

[grim swallow]

But jumping from maso to masodeath sounds awful

[smoky dock]

my guy

[night fractal]

isn't maso like

[smoky dock]

you’re playing maso mode

[night fractal]

harder than eternity

[smoky dock]

that’s already like, really, really hard

[night fractal]

or am i just not fargopilled

[humble marlin]

fargopilled bullshitmaxxing

[smoky dock]

adding a little shitlet of difficulty atop maso mode won’t do anything

[grim swallow]

I dont wanna have to switch my loadouts and shit mid fight

[smoky dock]

Then don’t do that

[grim swallow]

Isnt masodeath like a rework of bosses or sum

[grave marsh]

imma try using absorber

[smoky dock]

Zero fights require that

[grave marsh]

but i would defend jewel with my life

[smoky dock]

masodeath is Souls + Calamity

[night fractal]

jewel is great

but absorber is incredibly broken

[smoky dock]

Masochist is Souls alone

[grim swallow]

Exactly

[grave marsh]

real

[humble marlin]

is this gamer enough for gamering plantera (gaming)

[grave marsh]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1163204061496090674/1379592951621226597/image0.gif

[smoky dock]

no slagslitter pauldron?

[humble marlin]

instead of boomts?

that would be very funny

[night fractal]

jetpack generally wants angel treads

[smoky dock]

you can drop boomts for it

[night fractal]

bc it's slow without them

[humble marlin]

im fighting in vernal i dont really need that much speed tbf

[smoky dock]

also yeah if you’re not using 7.5 1.0 wings you need some more speed

[grim swallow]

And yeah reworks like that of eternity moonlord decrease my wish to olay fargo

[smoky dock]

also I really like deep diver over ornate shield for plantera

[humble marlin]

whys that

[night fractal]

angel treads bring it from Pixie wing speeds to Fishron wing speeds

(top horizontal speed)

(pixie wing speed is from the fairy boots, without them it's Angel wing base speed)

[smoky dock]

Shorter, more spammable dash makes slagsitter pauldron more effective by increasing its damage uptime

And the instant deceleration makes shorter, more precise movement easier

Compared to the all-or-nothing style of other dashes

[humble marlin]

i see

ill give it a go
i already killed infernum DoG with deep diver so im kinda familiar with it

[smoky dock]

I used deep diver to avoid the erratic sprays of seeds

[night fractal]

deep diver is so peak

especially off infernum because uh

didn't infernum not adjust it's dash cooldown or smth

[smoky dock]

Literally perfection

[smoky dock]

Even if it didn’t it’d still be crazy

[night fractal]

i proposed a deep diver upgrade but

it never caught on

[humble marlin]

ig i should be using bees now

[night fractal]

it would turn any other dash into a mini deep diver

[smoky dock]

I still hold firm that MNG line should use deep diver’s behavior

[night fractal]

the reworked Statis Belt/Sash have similar

but without short length

[smoky dock]

yea :)

[night fractal]

very high accel at first but slows down

[humble marlin]

so this

[smoky dock]

literally peam

[grim swallow]

Agree

Wait also

[smoky dock]

would it be possible to use both valor and Statis’ belts to get a Super Deep Diver?

[grim swallow]

Can ND be ichored

Like can I piss onto a god of light

[night fractal]

no

[grave marsh]

why are using buffs making me weaker

i can consistently get to last phase moon lord without it

but with them i die before that

consistently

[night fractal]

are any of them alcohols

[smoky dock]

could have possibly run out of important ones

[humble marlin]

peak worldgen (this is a large world)

[night fractal]

peak

[grave marsh]

no

[silent linden]

loved Wrath of the Gods but I had SO many crashing issues at nameless deity

[desert fjord]

Why sunken so big

[silent linden]

ive already submitted it in their discord but wanted to mention it here too - checked the logs and it looked like the issues were with Luminance and WotG and not another mod conflict

[crude oak]

i had the same thing on my last world

[crude oak]

the bosses are not fun

Imo

[desert fjord]

L takes

[silent linden]

nah mars and nameless deity are my two favorite terraria bosses ever

mars was so uniquely done

[crude oak]

mars is boring for me you can no hit him easily

hes a unique concept

but hes so easy

[silent linden]

hes easy but hes cool and well made and very unique

difficulty does not entirely make a boss good or bad for me

[crude oak]

avatar of emptiness is just visual hell

if you could see more than half of his attacks he'd be free

[silent linden]

that i will agree on

[crude oak]

and nameless was pretty fun

[silent linden]

thats why i didnt mention him lol

[crude oak]

overall

1 good-ok boss

2 bad bosses

probably give nameless a 7 or 6

mars a 4

and avatar genuinely like a 2

[humble marlin]

better than noxus at least

[crude oak]

hitler vs stalin

[silent linden]

Mars is very stylized and unique and I had a ton of fun with him even if he was easy

As long as the concept is cool I'm happy

[crude oak]

he is unique but idk i just think if hes easy enough that you can autopilot while fighting him its still boring

but i get what ur saying

[silent linden]

Yeah I get where ur coming from too

I care about the spectacle as much as I care about the difficulty but not everyone is that way

[smoky dock]

Which is good

visual flair is important and is part of the reason why I like Infernum’s guardians, Providence and SCal

[crude oak]

same

but if its missing any difficulty then its still no fun

even if it looks cool

which is the problem with avatar

well its not

i take that back

avatar makes it too hard

[crude oak]

guardians was the most fun i had

provi 2nd

[grave marsh]

why does my weapon randomly swift to my summon item for moon lord for no reason

[crude oak]

skill issue i g uess

[grave marsh]

sure buddy

[silent linden]

Avatar of emptiness is way too visually cluttered for me to enjoy, especially when I was playing summoner. I had to wind up using the Providence accessory and one endo-whatever staff to reduce the clutter

But, I will be trying infernum for the first time soon and I'm excited for it

[crude oak]

infernum is really fun

[sick hazel]

whats the best mage weapon for DOG infernum

[crude oak]

vitriolic viper

phant smt staff

dark spark

shadowbolt staff

[sick hazel]

whats the best out of those

[fading dove]

vitriolic viper

[sick hazel]

how do i get it

[fading dove]

old duke

[sick hazel]

dont need to be passive aggressive it just saves time if i ask

[silk raptor]

for infernum plantera, whats the best weapon to use? Currently using minishark + ichor bullets but it isnt doing enough damage

[crude oak]

Minishark

[silk raptor]

megashark

[sick hazel]

prob means megashark

[crude oak]

The goat

❤️

Vitriolic VIper

[crude oak]

oh

i dunno brodie never played range thankfully

unfortunately i will be playing range

[silk raptor]

im fine switching classes. Gives me more to do

[sick hazel]

do you have recipe browser?

[silk raptor]

yeah of course

[crude oak]

oh

like darklight greatsword or sm

[fading dove]

nightglow 🤤

[crude oak]

or crushsaw crasher

[crude oak]

infernum eol pre plantera ❤️

[fading dove]

preboss <3

[sick hazel]

yeah recipe browser is really good for tryna find weapons i usually just put in random stuff and see what i can make bad thing is it doesnt include boss drops

[sick hazel]

plantera defo easier but empress aint that bad

[maiden fjord]

mmmm 🤤

[tepid ruin]

100 tries in, exo mechs still are kicking my ass

[crude oak]

unlucky man

[crude oak]

oh yeah didnt i say i was gonna send u sm

or was that for yharon

[maiden fjord]

idk if I wanna use it after beating up empress with plague staff and photosynthesis

[crude oak]

magna bolt carrying

[tepid ruin]

That was for yharon, but I beat him not long after figuring out wavedashing

[crude oak]

what the fuck is wavedashing

[tepid ruin]

You know, the whole thing about being able to dash left and right without a cd

[fading dove]

you can't crouch, wavedashing isnt in terraria

[tepid ruin]

Listen, it's the most fitting word I can come up with

As for mechs, I am figuring them out, it's just a matter of getting it consistent

[maiden fjord]

omg no way

[tepid ruin]

Thanatos is a lot less predictable than DoG

[crude oak]

she circles u

just sit in the middle

[tepid ruin]

...Does it?

[crude oak]

yep

[tepid ruin]

I'm pretty sure it rams into me

[crude oak]

do you want

a tutorial

[tepid ruin]

Nah, I'll look at it later

[crude oak]

ok bro

i promise you

[tepid ruin]

The pattern, I mean

[crude oak]

ram dash through it and just go down

and just sit in the circle til she goes transparent

[gentle heart]

man, bereft vassel doesnt work in multiplayer 💔

[crude oak]

not missing out

easy boss

[gentle heart]

im playing summoner so missed out on the whip

[sick hazel]

how do i stop old duke from touching me

[night lily]

dashing 👍

[sick hazel]

Do i dash into him or around him

[maiden fjord]

both

with elysian aegis

[crude oak]

infernum randomiser

what do i randomise

besides ai

cos i want it to be quick

[hot pawn]

Is calamity remix future bosses an actual thing or am I just like tweaking

[little steppe]

yes we all know easy = bad

[crude oak]

Have to make that clear

Im not an elitist i swear

[silk raptor]

god the plantera fight is just not fun

[hot pawn]

Set it on fire

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-man-guy-evil-whisper-gif-16225917572032847521

[oak ember]

What’s the mod that makes the eye of Cthulhu blue and have demon scythes and wof have green fire and ichor?

[little steppe]

souls

eternity mode to be specific

[oak ember]

Ohh I see tyy

[turbid radish]

im scared

(infernum)

[hoary osprey]

Can anyone recommend me a list of mods to play with calamity? My friend and I finished calamity with a few QOL mods like fargos mutant etc. But we want to replay together as different classes and want to try all the addons. But we don't know what's compatible or works with hosting on steam etc. Any help is appreciated thank you!

[smoky dock]

As far as I know, Infernum and Catalyst work fine in multiplayer for the most part
It will be unstable, but that’s unavoidable with multiplayer

Wrath of the Gods I know for sure is not multiplayer compatible

[turbid radish]

they dont

they bug a LOT in multi

ik that from experience

[hoary osprey]

yeah we tried that got errors that's why I was asking, Thank you!

[tawdry vessel]

what mage weps should i use for astrageldon (infernum) i feel like the swarmer is doing litterly nothing to him

[smoky dock]

Multiplayer is just kinda like

yikes

[smoky dock]

How long do you think the fight would take with Swarmer? How long do you expect?

[tawdry vessel]

i get him to arround 80% 2 mins in lmao

[smoky dock]

idfk about magic weapon choices, but I know geldon isn’t reasonably possible to beat significantly faster than 3:30

[smoky dock]

pfft lmao

yeah that’s a bit slow

[turbid radish]

@mossy trench

[smoky dock]

alas I can’t really offer weapon advice

I can suggest using brittle star staff for defense and cryogenic staff for free damage

If you have platforms for it to work on, consider trading one cryogenic sentry for one dreadmine

[tawdry vessel]

idk since when but the wiki states he has built in 85% dr against the swarmer

[hoary osprey]

does the Calamity Overhaul work well with multiplayer?

[smoky dock]

No

It doesn’t work well

like, at all

[smoky dock]

yeah geldon has the most baffling damage resistances

like a 91% resistance against Shard of Antumbra stealth specifically

[tawdry vessel]

speaking of platforms, is there a specific one where i dont like sit on it for a microsecond and then fall down?

[smoky dock]

No, that’s a property of all platforms in this game

You can bypass it by turning your platforms into a hoik—hammer your platforms into stairs

But it’s not 100% reliable so there’s a slim chance they don’t work how you’d expect

but for the most part they’re just platforms you can fall through

[tawdry vessel]

i like using the wrath of the gods platforms cuz there pretty and qol

[smoky dock]

what the hell are you on about

WotG adds instant-fallthrough platforms?

[tawdry vessel]

?

no it doesnt

i cant hammer the platforms from wotg

[smoky dock]

I don’t know what platforms you’re talking about

I haven’t played WotG 1.3

[tawdry vessel]

oooh starblessed platforms, u can place two platforms up to 222 blocks apart and itll fill in the gap with platforms that produce light

but u cant hammer/break the platforms that are placed in the middle

[smoky dock]

oh is it literally just an auto-arena builder

Platforms that generate their own light is pretty coolio tho

[mossy trench]

lol

[smoky dock]

blunder booster spotted!!!!

[mossy trench]

looks cool tho

[turbid radish]

blunder booster is PEAK

[smoky dock]

I never used it tho

[turbid radish]

[smoky dock]

I know exactly what it does

[turbid radish]

its op bruh

[smoky dock]

that screenshot is wrong tho lemme fix that for u rq

[turbid radish]

?

it is?

its the description from it tho

[turbid radish]

[smoky dock]

tbh I just heard the lightning dash was deceptively strong and my peanut brain goes “hell yeah”

[turbid radish]

if it doesnt have immunity frames idc

[smoky dock]

damage-dealing accessories are some of my favorites

[smoky dock]

there’s no fucking WAY it doesn’t

[turbid radish]

lemme test

[smoky dock]

i think uhhh

[turbid radish]

idk which one it is

[smoky dock]

it’s Booster Dash

it has to be called that because this effect also exists on the Plague Cell Booster iirc

[turbid radish]

yes

it has immunity frames

and its INSANE

[smoky dock]

olay good

now use Old Fashioned

👍

[turbid radish]

it one shot eye of ctchullu

[smoky dock]

Good

the other effects don’t really do much

[turbid radish]

It one shot brain of ctchullu

wtf

[smoky dock]

the aura might be pretty nice for non-boss content or AFK stuff

[turbid radish]

it one shot brain of ctchullu gang

op

[smoky dock]

Are you using Old Fashioned

[turbid radish]

old fashioned

?

[smoky dock]

The drink

[turbid radish]

lemme see

idk

[smoky dock]

You are not

[turbid radish]

i have all combinations

[smoky dock]

The QoL stupid combinations don’t use any alcohols, except the Calamity Combination forcing Purple Haze

[turbid radish]

how do u get old fashioned

just saw

i just made 9999 of them

[smoky dock]

👁️ 👁️

how in the fuck

[turbid radish]

i had a lot of ecto plasm

[smoky dock]

i don’t think there’s a vendor

[turbid radish]

and i can buy beer from the npc

the one from etheria crystal etc

[smoky dock]

whatever, I’ll look at the recipe later

[mossy trench]

help

i cant kill polter on infernum

[smoky dock]

Now see how it does with Old Fashioned

[turbid radish]

haha

[smoky dock]

oh fuck is that it???

[turbid radish]

yes

LMFAO

[mossy trench]

not funny

actually could be funny

not for me

[smoky dock]

Send your build and maybe we can improve it a bit

[turbid radish]

what is better

[smoky dock]

I can’t spot a difference

Use the stock variant just in case the ancient one has fucky code or whatever

[turbid radish]

yeah but the ancient one takes 30 of the normal one

[smoky dock]

????

[turbid radish]

it cant be worse

[smoky dock]

What the hell kinda mod is adding it

[turbid radish]

luiafk reborn dlc

i think

[smoky dock]

Oh, LuiAFK infinite buffs

[weary notch]

just 30 stack ts 💔

[smoky dock]

They should be functionally identical, just the ancient one is unlimited? No clue. I don’t use this kinda shit

[turbid radish]

btw does this ''drinking 3 types of alcohol might not end well with your live'' actually do smt??

[smoky dock]

Absolutely not

Do it and find out

[weary notch]

negative life regen

[turbid radish]

RAHHHH

[turbid radish]

wth

[smoky dock]

Also 3 is safe

[turbid radish]

ur evil

[smoky dock]

4 drinks is not safe

[weary notch]

yea your liver starts to fail on 4 or more alcohols

everclear my goat

[smoky dock]

The effect is described in detail on the wiki

[turbid radish]

ok gang so old fashioned and recommend me 2 other ones

[mossy trench]

bro fuck polter

[smoky dock]

Alcohol Poisoning

[mossy trench]

no shit

he harder than dog

[turbid radish]

recommend me two other ones rahhhhh

[weary notch]

then do dog then

[smoky dock]

well you’re using infinite potions so you’re taking Purple Haze whether you like it or not

[mossy trench]

sure

[smoky dock]

so you secretly only get one more

[turbid radish]

wth is purple haze

i havent played in years

is that new

[weary notch]

old fabsols vodka

[turbid radish]

ohhh

fabsols vodka

[weary notch]

well new technically

[smoky dock]

Yeah, Fabsol’s Vodka got renamed recently

[turbid radish]

why?

[weary notch]

announcements

[smoky dock]

Fabsol shot dead in detroit

[turbid radish]

oh

all i knew was DM dokuro left

[smoky dock]

(left the mod)

[turbid radish]

not a bunch of people

[weary notch]

nono ts diff

[smoky dock]

That was a long time ago

Fabsol left like, last week

[weary notch]

and yea that was a good while

[turbid radish]

i still cry myself to bed over the fact dm dokuro left

[smoky dock]

same…

[turbid radish]

its kinda our fault ngl

[weary notch]

imagine i wake up in the morning thinking that today would be fine

then just

[turbid radish]

one side pressured him asking for songs faster and of higher quality, and the other said his songs escaped the vanilla way

[mossy trench]

is this enough for dog

[turbid radish]

WTH

[smoky dock]

by the time I joined he already left

[smoky dock]

Yes, that’s more than enough

[sudden bay]

if u havent fought before id make it bigger

[turbid radish]

i have been playing for 4-5 years

[weary notch]

depends wether you go vertical or horizontal

[turbid radish]

and i will say

[weary notch]

or you loop him

[mossy trench]

i cant decide

[turbid radish]

i LOVE crabulons music

like its like he puts his SOUL to his music

[weary notch]

then you would love to hear about shrooms

[turbid radish]

he is truly a genious

[weary notch]

he litterally does cro

[turbid radish]

i eat blue mushrooms for breakfeast

[weary notch]

same with the current music he does

[sudden bay]

my understadnign is that doging with dog charging at you from above/below takes less arna but it harder. having him charge from left to right is easier but needs a lot more arena

[turbid radish]

usually i eat with truffle tho

[weary notch]

you ever met the red ones?

[turbid radish]

nah they kinda spicy

not worth it

[weary notch]

the odd looking ones

[turbid radish]

makes me hear strange voices in my head

[weary notch]

also makes you see stuff

[mossy trench]

im kidna comfortable with vertical

more easier to me

[weary notch]

man im refereing to the odd mushroom thing th truffle sells

[turbid radish]

is ts worth it

8+ more damage but lower defense

[weary notch]

usually

-5% def isnt that bad

[surreal delta]

lowkey id take this with omega blue

[sudden bay]

vertical being where he dashes from above and below and you move horizontally overall?

[sick hazel]

the immune time is good too

[sick hazel]

what stage of the game are you in

[mossy trench]

no where im accelerating

[weary notch]

vertical is when you litterally move vertical over the fight

[mossy trench]

down to up

[turbid radish]

what more do i drink

[turbid radish]

pre polterghast

[weary notch]

moscow mule i think

[sudden bay]

so dog comes at you from the side and you move vertically as you go?

[weary notch]

jn i finding the name

[mossy trench]

yup

[sick hazel]

do you have deific amulet

[mossy trench]

he one shot me in 2nd phase