calamity-addon-talk

[lucid latch]

Why angel trees

[untold pollen]

didnt know i got whole trees on my feet

[agile agate]

They're good for Hardmode

[undone dew]

question should i tweak these or do bard and healer do good enough dmg in calamity with compatibility mods

[shut sage]

can someone send me the wotg server link

jnvm i found it

[fading dove]

healer does way too fucking much

[humble marlin]

it does not need damage increases

[slender prairie]

the sponge is a fucking cheese against endless deity

bro cannot kill me

[untold pollen]

alr this fine ?

[fading dove]

looks okay

[fading dove]

daybreak

[weary notch]

daybreak/eruption

[fading dove]

free 800dps on top of the damage it already does

fireball too

[weary notch]

for astrafgeldon

eruption for the slime summons in p1

[fading dove]

a free 1.5x damage on fire debuffs

[weary notch]

real

flame walker boots moment

[fading dove]

and daybroken is a fire debuff

[weary notch]

plus hellfire from fire gauntlet

but to a lesser degree

[agile agate]

How about half damage?

[balmy nest]

There’s an add on called “Anti-Tier lock Catalyst” which removes the progression requirement for Astrageldon, I used that one because I didn’t wanna make a whole new world to kill it, let’s say Exoblade, Auric Tesla and The Sponge made it easy af

[fading dove]

wait fireball is 1.25x

cinnamon roll is 1.5x

[fading dove]

yes, the boss balanced around being preml is easy with lategame gear

[humble marlin]

"hm yes let me fight a pre moonlord boss with endgame gear it surely will be hard"

[balmy nest]

I mean I SOMEHOW got clapped on a different attempt

[agile agate]

Astrageldon is not that difficult if you know its attack patterns

[untold pollen]

daybreak on a dummy

[smoky dock]

i use catalyst anti-tier lock specifically so i can disable the fucking icon on the world select menu

fucking i hate that icon so much

[untold pollen]

myriandel

[fading dove]

dummy tests suck

[cedar laurel]

Dummy testing on a debuff weapon

[fading dove]

does that dummy have defence

does that dummy move

[agile agate]

No

[weary notch]

nope

[smoky dock]

yes debuff weapons tend to have poor DPS because debuffs don’t count to DPS

[weary notch]

there should be boss dummies

[untold pollen]

if i spawn it in the air

[agile agate]

Best test dummy would be Astrum Aureus

[weary notch]

like a yharon that is yharon except it does not contact damage

and is sprited to look like it was constucted from cloth and string

[fading dove]

target dummy with yharon ai

[weary notch]

pretty much

and the size too to replicte the yharon fight

with the same stats

[untold pollen]

alr ill try that

[weary notch]

minus the drops on death

[agile agate]

I was joking, but ok

[fading dove]

fighting yharon with godmode

[weary notch]

pretty much

just yharon practise dummy

[slender prairie]

how do i get the hyperplane matrix?

[undone dew]

should i enable respawns on boss fight ? better multiplayer mod

[slender prairie]

i killed every infernum boss

[weary notch]

kill every infernum mech combo

[slender prairie]

and got the achievement for it

[smoky dock]

summon the boss and give them super dummy/wulfrum amplifier AI

[slender prairie]

and that

[weary notch]

well collect it then

[smoky dock]

imo no

[slender prairie]

how

i dont have the achievement for it

[fading dove]

did you kill every other boss

[weary notch]

[undone dew]

and one other thing fargos mutant mod unlimited potion buffs feels busted should i disable the unlimited section in config

[slender prairie]

ye

i got the achievement

[agile agate]

[slender prairie]

for killing every boss

[humble marlin]

up to u

[smoky dock]

Isn’t there a little progress checker for that one?

[fading dove]

getting a 30 stack gives you unlimited potions regardless

[undone dew]

got it thx for the help

[primal idol]

You know a fight is gonna get crazy when they give you infinite flight

[crude oak]

in eternity death do you fight the eternity or death mode vanilla bosses

like plantera

[fading dove]

eternity bosses with cal inspired changes

[crude oak]

even for the non-reworked bosses??

[maiden fjord]

ye I guess

[fading dove]

all vanilla bosses have eternity ai

[crude oak]

okay thanks

[slender prairie]

is the hardest difficulty infernum or is there smthing harder

(no eternity or fargo)

[fickle mirage]

uhm guys what magic weapon should i use for devourer of god ?

[fading dove]

hardest difficulty is satanist

[fading dove]

vitriolic viper

[slender prairie]

whats that

[fading dove]

a monument to the hubris of man

fuck who do i ping

[slender prairie]

i am confused

[fading dove]

uhhhhhh

[patent girder]

@smoky dock

[primal idol]

🧢

[slender prairie]

what was that

[fickle mirage]

okay so what weapon should i use for old duke ...

[fading dove]

scam

[fading dove]

fate's reveal

[primal idol]

Prob some scam

[slender prairie]

aight

i didnt even see

[smoky dock]

huh

[fading dove]

supposedly a gambling site letting you withdraw free credits from signing up

[smoky dock]

oh fuck

[fading dove]

2500 usd worth of credits

[smoky dock]

shot on sight 🫡

[fading dove]

i knew it was a scam because i saw it in catacord

[smoky dock]

on an unrelated note who wants some fresh BBQ ribs

[patent girder]

not sure if i like that

[humble marlin]

hello guys i am texting from tmodloader customer support i need your credit card info to save calamity from being deleted from workshop pls send to save calamity today

[slender prairie]

[slender prairie]

but like

only

base calamity and infernum

with some calamity related mods like wotg

[weak spade]

Ok

[fading dove]

thats nowhere near the level of satanist

[humble marlin]

i mean if u want js cal only

[little steppe]

okay have

[humble marlin]

hardest currently is uuh

Legendary death (ftw)

[fading dove]

prolly like legendary death gfb

[patent girder]

gfb booooo

[humble marlin]

gfb is a joke

[little steppe]

or leg death ftw

[slender prairie]

aight

[humble marlin]

i said that

[fading dove]

do note that infernum is incompatible with gfb

[slender prairie]

[patent girder]

gfb is boooring

[slender prairie]

but infernum bosses are so cool man

[patent girder]

or something

[fading dove]

and i dont mean like bosses break a little

i mean it crashes on worldgen

[slender prairie]

[humble marlin]

gfb isnt boring
its fucking hilarious

hard? no

[fading dove]

supreme ultramage though

[patent girder]

yeah thats what i mean

[smoky dock]

Consider using FMM to increase Infernum boss health and damage

Then limit your equipment or mods

[humble marlin]

one difficulty spike compared to the hell that is ftw legdeath

[smoky dock]

Or play with some unique stipulation

[slender prairie]

whats that

[undone dew]

should i use mech and jungle bosses rework mods ?

[smoky dock]

Fargo’s Mutant Mod

[fading dove]

fargo's mutant mod

[slender prairie]

ohh

[humble marlin]

prob not

[primal idol]

I haven't actually used any secret seeds with Calamity yet

[slender prairie]

huh i have that

i thought is qol

[smoky dock]

For some reason its damage and health configs function with Infernum whereas Calamity’s does not

[smoky dock]

It is

[fading dove]

it is

[smoky dock]

Check its configs

[slender prairie]

ohh ok

thans

thanks

[smoky dock]

It’s very configurable and powerful

[humble marlin]

uh okay

[fading dove]

i know that all stats scaled also works for inf bosses and also has a much higher limit

though its a lot less precise

[untold pollen]

20%hp and i dashed into the border like a dumbass

[humble marlin]

fire

[smoky dock]

it happens

We all do that sometimes 😔

[untold pollen]

HOW CAN I GET THIS FUCKER UP IN THE AIR stuck in the ground during his spinning thing

[fading dove]

there's one opportunity to move the arena within your control

the combo stars and nebula residue that directly follows dashes

[untold pollen]

too late i demolished a chunk of my astral

[fading dove]

this does have a rightward bias though

[untold pollen]

I DONE DID IT

got adrenaline and rage at the end and he just dissappeared :D

[humble marlin]

nice

dang thats lower than my first kill

[untold pollen]

does infernum even change astrageldon in anyway

[patent girder]

no

[untold pollen]

alr

ngl it felt like his spear things went faster every attempt

[smoky dock]

they do get faster as the fight progresses

Geldon in general becomes faster over time, so taking too long becomes a genuine issue

[humble marlin]

softly enraging

[smoky dock]

too short is problematic (too much investment in damage with no effect)
too long is problematic (becomes too difficult to avoid and deal damage)

Gotta be just right!

[jaunty orchid]

i want to recheck calamity after few years and do a full run, what addons should i consider to get the fullexperience ? music, items bosses etc.

[maiden fjord]

install vcmm

and maybe calamity mod extra music

[elder nebula]

not cal extra music

it fucks with vcmm

[maiden fjord]

well it has config tho

whether you wanna replace it or not

[elder nebula]

nobody reads configs

are you crazy

[jaunty orchid]

i want to have the interludes play after certain bosses is this a default calmity thing or an addon ?

[elder nebula]

default

[maiden fjord]

default

[elder nebula]

omega snail

[jaunty orchid]

will vanilla cal music fuck this up ?

[elder nebula]

no

it adds 2 interludes actually

[maiden fjord]

it adds 2 more interlude
one after wall of flesh and one after moon lord

[smoky dock]

No

iirc vanilla calamity music only replaces vanilla tracks

[elder nebula]

the pml interlude plays after catastrophes before the calamity btw

[jaunty orchid]

alright i will show my mods i had before

[smoky dock]

Calamity tracks are always unchanged because they're not vanilla

[smoky dock]

huh

do people not???

[elder nebula]

calamity players

[smoky dock]

Do people not look at what they can do with their mods????

[elder nebula]

and reading

[humble marlin]

wrath of the gods (2 bosses + questline)
catalyst (1 boss and few items)

[elder nebula]

don't mix well

[smoky dock]

That's why I'm going to make the most SARCASTIC guide

No reading required! You hit the button, and it gives you a PERFECT, tailored loadout for ANY BOSS

[jaunty orchid]

like they not playing off of wiki bruh

[smoky dock]

you'd be surprised

[jaunty orchid]

oh i also played with fargo too lol

[maiden fjord]

yea ngl that's weird that some calamity player doesn't have reading comprehension like let's be for real

[gaunt crystal]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[jaunty orchid]

what is better infernum mod music or vanilla calamity ?

i find replacing stained brutal calamity is a crime altough the track is really emotional

[elder nebula]

infernum only works with

infernum

also they do different things

[jaunty orchid]

wtf is wrong with terraria ambience

[little steppe]

it's toggleable

[little steppe]

they just add music...

[elder nebula]

depreciated

[jaunty orchid]

NOOOOOOOOO

[smoky dock]

They know

You can specifically choose to use Stained, Brutal Calamity or Scars of Calamity

[humble marlin]

i always read that word as depre-cat-ed

[smoky dock]

Other tracks are not togglable, though

[little steppe]

depressed cat

[humble marlin]

real

[bold rose]

deltarune tommorow

chapter 5 release when

[untold pollen]

killed the mf like 4 times

[jaunty orchid]

sloome is also deleted ?

[maiden fjord]

disable boss checklist
it fucks with calamity at this point

and use the lite version instead

[humble marlin]

thinks outdated too

iirc it said its no longer being mantained

so its just

gone

[elder nebula]

it's not?

fuckin hell

[jaunty orchid]

magic storage ?

[smoky dock]

magic storage :D

i like that mod

[jaunty orchid]

never played without it so much qol

[humble marlin]

i suck at organizing shit so for me its a godsend

[jaunty orchid]

altough having all kinds of crafting around your workshop sure looks more cozy

[steel ledge]

i swear i get lost in chests

[humble marlin]

i dont use crafting gui exactly cuz of that

[steel ledge]

i would search for a weapon thats obviously in that one chest

[jaunty orchid]

but theres autosort

[steel ledge]

thats even worse

[humble marlin]

idm taking things out of storage just to crafy

[heavy moat]

Toby Fox watching agaze in horror as people immediately start talking about when new chapters release mere hours after just releasing 3 and 4 after years of wait

[smoky dock]

tbf he is the type to develop the next chapter in secret and release it at the funniest possible moment

[fading dove]

nova slimers have a limit

[heavy moat]

It's gonna be Weird when Deltarune is just straight up done

[fading dove]

a lot of attacks actually do only scale to a certain extent

[wanton pivot]

hi guys the unlimited buff fargos mutant is not working

why is this

[jaunty orchid]

so what else music wise ?

[fading dove]

iirc the only limitless scaling is the homing stars and the wave of stars during nebula residue clusters

[elder nebula]

that's good

[smoky dock]

that's all that i use

[fading dove]

and thats only projectile speed

i like javyz' fargo music dlc
it adds tracks for the vast majority of things

[elder nebula]

just make sure infernum music doesn't override vcmm

[fading dove]

though border of life doesn't quite loop properly

[jaunty orchid]

how can i check that ?

[elder nebula]

configs

[wanton pivot]

guys whys fargos mutant not working

everything is updated

[tardy cedar]

I initially hated ms crafting but it kinda is efficient the more I use it

[elder nebula]

what's not working about it

[jaunty orchid]

oh got it

[fading dove]

god ive got hall of sacrilegious remains burned into my head

[wanton pivot]

unlimited buff at 30 potions

[fading dove]

is it enabled

do you have quality of terraria, and if so, did you disable those buffs in the buff tracker

[jaunty orchid]

hey whats this ? the leviathans first theme ?

[fading dove]

are they actually working and you just have their visibility turned off

[fading dove]

the ???'s passive track

[jaunty orchid]

oh i love the siren singing so should this be off or on ?

[maiden fjord]

man if I have ability to code stuff I'm gonna make like my own music pack mod for all bosses only

[fading dove]

i'm assuming that having the override be off makes it play

[jaunty orchid]

description is confusing

[wanton pivot]

it just uninstalled itself

for some reason

[elder nebula]

i find off has best results

you can always change it later

[jaunty orchid]

what about these

[elder nebula]

ambiance overrides music with ambient sounds

it's lowk ass

[jaunty orchid]

sorry im a complete noob

when it comes to music mods

[jaunty orchid]

oh thats sure ass

[smoky dock]

Well they're self-explanatory just by what the configs are called

That top one with the slider bar. It's asking "How often should ambient sounds be?"

0 means never, because a value times zero is zero

[untold pollen]

astrageldon armor to use or to not to use that is the question 🤔 its kinda too good

[smoky dock]

depends on class

worst case scenario you go "wow that was way too fucking easy" and then go back to redo a fight without it

[untold pollen]

last time i played infernum i only used it as a desperate measure when i was too ass to beat guardians

[jaunty orchid]

yeah but didnt know what kind of ambience should i expect

[smoky dock]

I don't either, I never touched the config

Keep an ear out for what's going on and see how the game is different

Then you can customize it based on what you like

You can't expect to never use a mod before, open the config, and set everything perfectly to your preferences

[fading dove]

except like maybe possibly fargo's best of both worlds

[untold pollen]

anything to change before moonlord? and what do i put instead of absorber (or has it been fixed on infernum)

[smoky dock]

absorber's since been fixed

[fading dove]

basecal fixed absorber

[smoky dock]

it's safe to use

[untold pollen]

:D

[tardy cedar]

Blood pact to Ambrosia ampoule

or angel threads

imo angel threads

you can survey with blood pact

[smoky dock]

blood pact to trash slot

[fading dove]

oh yeah the ampoule line got pretty buffed imo

[tardy cedar]

😡

[humble marlin]

preach

[tardy cedar]

hater cause it's too good

[smoky dock]

now it actually functions the way it says it does! 🥰

[untold pollen]

bbubububbut hp :D

[fading dove]

blood pact is nice when you literally have nothing else in terms of bulk ideas

[smoky dock]

then use deific amulet

or dodge

or moar deefens

[fading dove]

or sealocket

[tardy cedar]

I use charm of myths till poltarghast

[smoky dock]

https://tenor.com/view/votv-kel-keljoy-keljoyplush-plush-gif-14758875349718760905

[fading dove]

charm of slops ngl

[humble marlin]

cuz you suck at the game

[tardy cedar]

😭

[tardy cedar]

No.

[smoky dock]

Consider this a WARN, buddy... no bad accessories

[fading dove]

imo charm of myths is outclassed in like

[smoky dock]

looks fine to me

[fading dove]

mid prehm

[untold pollen]

i used it till astrageldon...

[smoky dock]

red wine with charm of myths is pretty gooted early hardmode tho

red wine, charm of mids and grand gelatin

[fading dove]

oh yeah because you get the go go gadget 250 heal

[tardy cedar]

I find the lowered potion cooldown helpful even tho I've memorised literally all the boss patterns and get hit barely to even benefit from it mildly 😭

[smoky dock]

i'm gonna force myself to use that combination

[tardy cedar]

i have some bias to it

[untold pollen]

just realized i took out asgardian aegis oopsie

[smoky dock]

Bias is OK

[fading dove]

a dash isnt needed for ml

[untold pollen]

asgards valor*

[smoky dock]

It's okay to have preference

[gaunt crystal]

Wait my goozma relic broke when I mined it????????

is that intended

[tardy cedar]

true

[untold pollen]

hmm

[fading dove]

game's telling you something 👀

[untold pollen]

i think i prefer this

i love dashing

[humble marlin]

based

[fickle mirage]

uhm guys

what magic weapon for yahron

[gaunt crystal]

I dont want it to tell me stuff ;-;

[waxen tide]

event horizon

[gaunt crystal]

my relic 😭

[fading dove]

recitation of the beast 🤤

[untold pollen]

wand of sparking

[little steppe]

for moonlord? maybe use ninja gear

[fickle mirage]

no

[jaunty orchid]

should i use calamity texture pack ?

[undone dew]

are Unofficial Calamity Whips/Flail Rework/yoyo rework mods needed for calamity difficulty ?

[fading dove]

no

[smoky dock]

No

[fading dove]

unofficial cal whips is somehow fucking stronger than what cal already has

[smoky dock]

If you want more whips, use Catalyst

Although Catalyst's whips are generally weaker than vanilla's whips

[little steppe]

yeah if you want

[smoky dock]

(but i love catalyst's whisp)

[fading dove]

this is because cal way overbuffs whips

[little steppe]

kaleido outclasses like 99% of them

[undone dew]

never rly ued yoyos or flails, flails always felt weak or maybe i didn't know what i was doing

[fading dove]

morning star is 1.2432x iirc

[jaunty orchid]

is it better or worse than default calmity sprites ?

[smoky dock]

yeah 😔

[little steppe]

subjective

[fading dove]

kscope is ~1.236x

which

what the fuck

[untold pollen]

too lazy to change it anymore this is what we going with

[fading dove]

yeah that looks tasty

[gaunt crystal]

"kills" and it just despawns them 😭

guess I need to kill goozma again

[untold pollen]

do not taste my accessories please.

[fading dove]

false advertising yknow

[gaunt crystal]

fr

[fading dove]

it also kills 100% of lesser beings

[little steppe]

you're the 0.01%

[jaunty orchid]

what is the name of the nameless deity mod

[fading dove]

wrath of the gods

[jaunty orchid]

ah okay already have that

[elder nebula]

beware it can be pretty buggy

[jaunty orchid]

how so

[elder nebula]

the solyn related stuff has a tendency to just

not work

from what i've seen at least

[little steppe]

it also has a chance to work properly

[fading dove]

wotg very much pushes terraria to its limits

it also starts shitting the bed if in multiplayer

[little steppe]

I have gotten like 1 (fixable by myself) bug for now (pre mech3)

[fading dove]

with it becoming a lot more violent if you have magic storage

[little steppe]

I never understood how could magic storage generate bugs outside the storage itself

[smoky dock]

Computers are just chunks of plastic, metal and crystal that functions with extremely precise, nano-scale structures

Something is bound to go wrong

[fickle mirage]

omfg

3 tried for yharon

first time really beat yharon

omfg

okay why 5000 chicken nugget

[smoky dock]

[elder nebula]

i was wondering which mod that was

probably calval

[jaunty orchid]

what the lightmod called

[elder nebula]

lights and shadows?

[smoky dock]

WhereIsMySalad

[gaunt crystal]

I just noticed, ||solyn just fucking dies???|| 😭 😭

[elder nebula]

wotg spoiler ^

to specify

[jaunty orchid]

cant install it

only question mark is there

[elder nebula]

try the steam workshop

[jaunty orchid]

can i have both evil in a world now ?

[undone dew]

doesn't fargos best of both worlds do that

[jaunty orchid]

ye it does

[undone dew]

for light mods there is also fancy lighting and atmospheric torches btw

[jaunty orchid]

which one is better

[gaunt crystal]

both

[undone dew]

i just use all

[gaunt crystal]

they do different things

[smoky dock]

oh dear

[jaunty orchid]

i mean between lights and shadows

[undone dew]

tuned it down in config no worries

[gaunt crystal]

all 3 do something different I think

[undone dew]

tho lightning drops FPS

[gaunt crystal]

fancy lighting improves light sources

lights and shadows the global illumination

and atmospheric lighting adds torch flicker

[undone dew]

lights and shadows is best i took it down to 0.5 in config fancy lighting cost me too much fps

are Yoyo's and Flail's good in calamity or do i need to use mods to buff them ?

[waxen tide]

flails are good

yoyo are mid but okay enough

[fading dove]

yoyos are balanced

they all hover around B and C

[undone dew]

saw these mods was thinking of trying them

[fickle mirage]

uhm guys

[elder nebula]

wat

[fickle mirage]

what magic weapon for exo mech u guys recommend ?

[untold pollen]

what do i use instead of empress wings i keep running out of flight time and fall into like 4 projectiles that i cant even fucking see

hate moon lord smh

[waxen tide]

betsy wings

[elder nebula]

i recommend don't play mage

[fading dove]

illusioner's reverie, eye of madness, void vortex

[fickle mirage]

mage is the only role left

[gaunt crystal]

what weapon enchant do I use for nameless deity?

[fickle mirage]

got it

[gaunt crystal]

bloodthirsty?

/ranger

[fading dove]

what weapon

[gaunt crystal]

soma prime

[weak spade]

🫧 🐠

[fading dove]

iirc nameless has rdr so i'd say the one that heals

withering i think it's called

[gaunt crystal]

ic, and any equipment I should change?

[grim swallow]

yay I passed the test!

here is the loadout

[waxen tide]

yharims gift...

[fading dove]

soul of the master, soul of terraria, soul of dimensions, soul of the universe, brand of the brimstone witch, shattered community, cosmic core

[fickle mirage]

uhm guys

do radiance worth using

[gaunt crystal]

not using the souls

[grim swallow]

oh god I completely forgot about shattered community

[gaunt crystal]

just this one for shop discounts and the one for building

[fading dove]

dlc balances nameless around you having these

[gaunt crystal]

dont play dlc

just normal souls for the worldshaper

[fading dove]

why not

[gaunt crystal]

waiting till its completed

[fading dove]

thats gonna be years

and the compatibility is already finished

everything works fine

[maiden fjord]

somethingsomethingdemetoricoverusedonbossesidk

[fading dove]

its the full integration that's not done

[fading dove]

shoutout hifuu

[grim swallow]

relocator and the demonshade armor set bonus were mvps

[maiden fjord]

hifuu? which one?

[fading dove]

a lot of those are hifuu songs

[maiden fjord]

ah I see

[jaunty orchid]

calamity overhaul ?

[smoky dock]

✨ no ✨

[untold pollen]

i cannot fucking get moonlord below 40%

😭😭

[elder nebula]

don't touch it with a 40 foot pole

[maiden fjord]

these list are for my own music pack mod named "Cinder's Calamity Demetori Music Pack" btw

[jaunty orchid]

entropy ?

[gaunt crystal]

what enchant do I put on my summons?

[maiden fjord]

it's gonna be toggleable in config and will have music box recipe like vcmm

[gaunt crystal]

and are defensive items even useful against nameless

[smoky dock]

It's a tough fight, but you can do it!

[smoky dock]

Yes!

[jaunty orchid]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3316697363&searchtext=Calamity

[grim swallow]

who is the person that made the most banger ost in modded terraria that I have heard (ND ost)

I wanna say thanks to him

[fading dove]

if you don't value balance then i think entropy is fine

[gaunt crystal]

ENNWAY

and 'heart plus up!'

-# looked it up rq

[grim swallow]

oh wait

didnt heart plus up also made like geldon theme and shit

[untold pollen]

mf arena broke and i still got it

got trapped like 3 times cause i accidentally went under there

[smoky dock]

hpu is in a lotta places

[gaunt crystal]

does daawnlight work well with soma?

[untold pollen]

but god damn do i feel proud of my self first time i played i had way too many mods helping me like 3 extra slots n shit now i feel like i acc beat it

[gaunt crystal]

does it give +1 crit to the debuff

[maiden fjord]

ok that's kinda confusing me tho

damn

[smoky dock]

Great work!

[grim swallow]

have the WotG devs mentioned anything about future updates/their absence

because each and every single boss felt really fun to fight

[steep cobalt]

lucille isn't having the motivation to update right now

that's it

[ember marsh]

day 5 of saying i love solyn

i love solyn ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[steep cobalt]

be back in a few weeks

[grim swallow]

but they didnt explicitly said that
"mods done no updates" yeah?

[steep cobalt]

idk, chime in to wotgcord for more info i guess

[steep cobalt]

i'm cynical about my own competency so go ahead

[humble marlin]

last patchnote

[grim swallow]

I mean I checked it no statements like that

[steep cobalt]

also eh she's working on king slime's intro cutscene or something

actually just king slime as a whole

[humble marlin]

afaik thats for fables

[steep cobalt]

yeah i suppose

given the spectacles

[grim swallow]

oh yeah there will be wotg updates

in the teasers page there is a teaser of version 1.3

so eventually we will get an update

[jaunty orchid]

infernum cant work with death mode ?

[maiden fjord]

ok this might be a lot work to do

[vestal sable]

what rogue loadout do I use for infernum yharon

[grim swallow]

its a step up from death

[vestal sable]

im not doing any damage

[grim swallow]

gods paranoia as a weapon

thats all I remember

[humble marlin]

(its the only decent option)

[grim swallow]

and if you need a lot more dps than you have then

DSA

[spark prism]

How good is metanova stuff

[humble marlin]

as good as tarragon ( post provi) gear

[spark prism]

Does it break progression that much

[humble marlin]

unless its intergelaric rogue

[spark prism]

But you cant beat it PML

[humble marlin]

it does

[smoky dock]

intergelactic melee isn't nearly as good as the rest

[humble marlin]

you can use it as a replacement for tarragon in a lot of recipes

[spark prism]

Bruh its our first time playing thru calamity idk if i should do it then

[smoky dock]

my testing shows it as more or less identical to solar

[spark prism]

Does it make the experience better or worse and by what margin

[humble marlin]

oh fr

[smoky dock]

Do it anyways and if you beat a boss too easily, go back and beat it without it

[humble marlin]

^^^^

[spark prism]

Infernum too so good advice ig

[smoky dock]

Melee (Crumbling Flask)

Beetle Scale Mail 5:17 (0.69% HP)
Intergelactic 3:45 (23.55% asteroid belt)```

```Dragonfolly w/ Elemental Shiv

Solar 2:52 (7.63% true melee, 7.36% Solar Radiance)
Intergelactic 3:01 (10.28% true melee, 4.67% asteroid belt)```

```Profaned Guardians w/ Elemental Shiv

Solar 2:33 (10.99% true melee, 0.65% Solar Radiance)
Intergelactic 2:32 (9.23% true melee, 7.3% asteroid belt)```

```Providence w/ Elemental Shiv

Solar 5:40 (4.34% true melee, 6.70% Solar Radiance)
Intergelactic 5:35 (7.89% true melee, 7.30% asteroid belt)```

can't be fucked to test the sentinels

```Polterghast w/ Lacerator

Tarragon 3:57 (12.24% HP, 1.86% Counterweight, 1.75% Elysian Aegis)
Intergelactic 3:03 (54.56% HP, 2.59% Counterweight, 2.72% Asteroid Belt, 3.70% Elysian Aegis)```

[vestal sable]

what does this mean

[smoky dock]

Dimensional Soul Artifact

The funniest meme accessory

[fluid flax]

thats al ot of words

[humble marlin]

those polterghast times are throwing me off

[fluid flax]

too bad im not reading em

[grim swallow]

I love this thing unironically

[smoky dock]

using tarragon I was able to get it down to 12% HP in 3:57

using Intergelactic I was able to get it down to 55% HP in 3:03

[humble marlin]

ah i see

[smoky dock]

I died before finishing the fight so I couldn't get a definitive killtime, but we can still guesstimate

[vestal sable]

I mean

[steep cobalt]

melee intergalactic doesn't provide melee speed right?

[smoky dock]

No

Technically it's not even a melee set

[humble marlin]

huge

[vestal sable]

I take like 400 damage per hit so maybe using that wont really change much

[vale heart]

Can you make soul of the master post moonlord

[steep cobalt]

that explains the discrepancy, somewhat

[smoky dock]

The Intergelactic Hardhat provides generic damage in addition to unusually high defense and DR

[steep cobalt]

22% damage and crit chance increase

why 22

[grim swallow]

I know that ranger intergelactic set

is busted as fuck

[smoky dock]

22

[steep cobalt]

ah wait hardhat provides 10% melee speed

[tardy cedar]

small

[smoky dock]

oh weird

[steep cobalt]

that's what she said

[smoky dock]

I didn't notice that

[steep cobalt]

ehem

[humble marlin]

whar

[steep cobalt]

yeah it's the hardhat that provides the boost by itself

[humble marlin]

oh god the lag deleted half of the messages i cant see shit

[humble marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801899365643059260/1319017437865185301/Tumblr_l_2894261664770248.gif

[steep cobalt]

unlike vanilla cal sets where melee speed is relegated to set bonus

juan

[raven vapor]

intergalactic armour my beloved

[fluid flax]

https://tenor.com/view/juan-jojo-jojo-part7-jojos-bizzare-adventure-steel-ball-run-gif-20695545

[humble marlin]

does this to you

[fluid flax]

no!

[woven rune]

Melee gets shafted so hard with it lol

Its so broken for basically every other class and for melee its just good

[humble marlin]

intergelaric rogue in the corner:

[steep cobalt]

melee receives 2 more asteroids to get high on

[little steppe]

waow cant believe intergelactic rogue helm got its own slot

the trash slot!

[humble marlin]

wrong

[steep cobalt]

and utilities in the form of debuff immunity

[humble marlin]

shouldnt even craft it

[woven rune]

debuff immunity to debuffs that only Astrageldon inflicts right?

[raven vapor]

bruh true

[steep cobalt]

no

[raven vapor]

mage set is goated

[woven rune]

even the melee weapon is meh

[steep cobalt]

doesn't seem like it

[woven rune]

Ranger set is stupid busted

[raven vapor]

the mage and summoner weapons are also good

[woven rune]

Those homing stars do SO much damage

[steep cobalt]

in contrast, i don't have any incentives to use the whips

[woven rune]

Literally had to switch off it for my Infernum run because I was killing shit so fast it wasn't even fun

[steep cobalt]

i frankly found the whips to be useless

[smoky dock]

just for variety and for funsies

I did find some niche uses, though

[raven vapor]

stupid question: does that outclass every armour till godslayer?

[woven rune]

I use it up until Auric+

The extra damage from the stars is so so nice

[smoky dock]

Resonant Striker has the second highest single target damage of any whip, beaten by Blossom's Blessing

[little steppe]

could outclass godslayer beacuse godslayer sucks

[woven rune]

As far as I can tell they scale off your weapon's base damage so if you pair it with a sniper? (Auralis)

[little steppe]

(this is joke)

[woven rune]

Absolutely insane damage

[little steppe]

(gs still sucks)

[raven vapor]

godslayer dash is nice tho

[woven rune]

Godslayer revive was infinitely more useful 😭

[smoky dock]

Additionally, Blossom's Blessing offers defensive and offensive utility courtesy of the buff granted by the petals (15 DEF, some amount of regen... i think 1 HP/s? and 15% damage. might be wrong with those numbers it's been a while)

[spark prism]

Is astrageldon easier or harder than providence

[little steppe]

just use fearmonger

godslayer is ass

[woven rune]

than base Providence or Infernum?

[spark prism]

Infernump

[dusty cobalt]

That intergalactic armour emphasizes how mid ranger is

[woven rune]

or Omega Blue!

[steep cobalt]

in terms of minion interactions though

ehhh

[woven rune]

I'd say easier imo

[little steppe]

tru

[smoky dock]

well get used to them

[steep cobalt]

actually yeah i have this adulation for fearmonger

[woven rune]

I don't struggle with Infernum Provi anymore but she definitely gave me more issues when I was learning it than Astrageldon

[smoky dock]

catalyst's balance philosophy is the same balance philosophy the current calamity developers are going to use when summoner gets its ground up rebalance

[woven rune]

^^^ use Myrindael for Dogma phase

makes it so much easier lmao

[grizzled onyx]

what about Siren's Serenity?

that thing looks busted

[smoky dock]

never heard of it

[steep cobalt]

i'll give my own predicament on that in the future

[grizzled onyx]

guess what it drops from

[smoky dock]

Isn't Siren's Serenity from UCW?

[steep cobalt]

i don't wanna make rashful remarks

[smoky dock]

good idea

[steep cobalt]

and hey i'm willing to be optimistic despite my contempt for some of the newer changes

[grizzled onyx]

yes
it is very strong

Very short range whip

[smoky dock]

UCW is a whoooole different ball game than Catalyst

[steep cobalt]

except for melee speed change though, i've relinquished that

[grizzled onyx]

but gives ridiculous buffs

[smoky dock]

Catalyst is slowly eating the whips from UCW and balancing them out

[grizzled onyx]

one of its buffs is +40 HP

[smoky dock]

UCW is even more overpowered than vanilla's whips

[grizzled onyx]

Not lifesteal

[steep cobalt]

the fuck?

[grizzled onyx]

it does have no tag and short range though

i think the Breaker Blade outranges it

[steep cobalt]

i'm pretty sure siren's serenity gives like 20 tag damage

maybe i'm misremembering though

the last time i gleaned at the mod was like july last year

[grizzled onyx]

i dunno

[grim swallow]

okay uhh what do I do now

[grizzled onyx]

but its buffs are crazy good

[steep cobalt]

i hope y'all can avert my impression on the current whip changes

[grim swallow]

my plan was that I spend like 2-3 weeks on this run

it took a single week

[smoky dock]

Well, I'm not a developer so

I wish I could work on the mod but

[steep cobalt]

eh i digress

[little steppe]

prikki is lying, he is currently working as a dev to make the jungle temple overhaul update

[grizzled onyx]

i like how the Ardur Morning Star looks

[steep cobalt]

byeah i hope i don't have to contend with spinal tap increasing minion damage by 1

in the future

[night fractal]

spinal tap will likely have +3

snapthorn +1
leather +2
tap +3

can't really do less than that or there's no tag progressison from leather to tap

and leather can't do less or it just becomes Worse Snapthorn

[raven vapor]

what about hardmode whips

[night fractal]

we'll see

[steep cobalt]

i've never used leather whip unless i feel reckless enough to whipstack prehardmode in vanilla

[night fractal]

rest in peace whip stacking

[little steppe]

rest in piss

[steep cobalt]

atleast the sentiment on whips has changed somewhat

[smoky dock]

leather whip is interesting, I like it

[raven vapor]

wait why do you hate whip stacking

[smoky dock]

obscenely overpowered

summons are A-OK and well balanced by themselves

Add a whip and suddenly they blow everything out of the water

Now add five whips

[steep cobalt]

when can i see vile feeder getting nerfed?

[raven vapor]

i think melee needs a buff

[grim swallow]

whip stacking my beloved

I love having all my hotbar in whips for whipstacking

[steep cobalt]

yeah no i don't think that stacking 5 whips is feasible

[night fractal]

today

i'm literally doing that in a moment

[steep cobalt]

4 is possible if your finger is adroit enough

[little steppe]

stacking 4 is impossible

[steep cobalt]

3 is the norm, even a torpor idiot like me can perform that

[night fractal]

i have The Summoner Hitlist open

[little steppe]

like, actually impossible

[night fractal]

?

how

they last 4 seconds

and there's 10 debuff slots

[steep cobalt]

it's actually possible

[little steppe]

...

[humble marlin]

is you mechanically slow

[little steppe]

I thought it was 3

[steep cobalt]

but 3 is like the recommended amount

[night fractal]

whips attack more than once per second

you can theoretically stack like 6

maybe 7

[little steppe]

I thought it was 3 seconds not 4

[steep cobalt]

it's 4

[little steppe]

well nvm then

[raven vapor]

i cant stack more than one whip

[steep cobalt]

what about firecracker?

[night fractal]

what about it

[steep cobalt]

any changes?

[night fractal]

it's already nerfed from 2.75x to 2x in cal

[steep cobalt]

i'm intrigued to know

[night fractal]

doesns't need anything beyond that

idt

[steep cobalt]

eh plausible enough

[smoky dock]

I think Firecracker was a little overnerfed

Maybe making the infamous summons it works really well with benefit a bit less would help prevent stupid broken combinations from coming out

[grizzled onyx]

wdym

[night fractal]

hi

[smoky dock]

HUH

What makes Firecracker S tier?

[grizzled onyx]

yeah
haunted scroll gotta go

it sucks

[smoky dock]

haunted scroll being better than phaseslayer lmao

[humble marlin]

pirate staff:

[grizzled onyx]

YEAH
IT DOESNT WORK AT ALL WITH A LOT OF SUMMONS

[grizzled onyx]

yeah no that makes sense

[raven vapor]

pirate staff needs a rework atp 💔

[vestal sable]

how do I kill infernum yharon\

[steep cobalt]

yeah true

[smoky dock]

Zamn, impressive

[little steppe]

you throw attacks at it

[night fractal]

firecracker saving 45 seocnds on QS, over a minute on cryo

etc

[humble marlin]

jesus fucking christ

[smoky dock]

Does Firecracker's tag exclusively buff minion damage? Or does it have... an abaddon-like explosion or something?

[night fractal]

it has explosion

iirc

[grizzled onyx]

I have a question:
Is there anyone else here who uses summons for extra damage no matter the class you are playing?

[grim swallow]

I use what looks sick

[night fractal]

lemme chec

[grizzled onyx]

yep
that is right
it gives 0 tag damage

[grim swallow]

if a weapon is good but looks not cool im not using it

[raven vapor]

me 🙋‍♂️

[night fractal]

, a small explosion will occur, and the enemy takes 2.75× the damage from the minion or sentry's attack. The explosion also hits nearby enemies for 1.75× the damage

[maiden fjord]

ok I think I've done it.
the list of demetori cover songs used for all bosses on my music pack mod.

[smoky dock]

I do, yes

[steep cobalt]

you also have to reapply the explosion after that

[smoky dock]

so that's why it did so well on destroyer

[grizzled onyx]

yeah
very helpful with shortrange classes too

[little steppe]

I just use brittle staff

[smoky dock]

Except I don't do that very often because I don't want people BITCHING about it

[grizzled onyx]

like true melee

[maiden fjord]

sometimes I do sometimes not

[night fractal]

anyway

[smoky dock]

"waah waah that's not mage" SHUT UP

[grizzled onyx]

People whine about you using summons when not playing summoner

like

CMON

[night fractal]

Firecracker will likely stay 2x
Cool Whip will probably move to flat tag

[grizzled onyx]

I CAN PLAY HOWEVER I WANT

[night fractal]

Durendal will likely be flat + crit

[grizzled onyx]

If I want free extra damage

[wet mirage]

demonshade giving 10 slots

[grizzled onyx]

with 0 (ZERO) opportunity cost

[smoky dock]

Would the oldest tag bonus force new tag bonuses to not apply? Or would new tag bonuses instantly overwrite old ones?

[grizzled onyx]

Yeah, Im taking that

(not to forget you can have 3 slots with no dedicated gear post Skeletron)

[smoky dock]

someone was whining about me using s l i m e g u n on true melee

[little steppe]

LMAO

[grizzled onyx]

It
Doesnt
Do
Damage

[night fractal]

new tags override old ones

[grizzled onyx]

how

[dusty cobalt]

That's not true, you have to make other ppl feel better by conforming to their opinions

[grizzled onyx]

exactly

[smoky dock]

🎉

[grizzled onyx]

Why do so many people think that their opinion is the only true opinion out there

[maiden fjord]

idk if I wanna ping tsukara about this
I don't like pinging people for some reason

[smoky dock]

okay i'm down

[grizzled onyx]

it genuinely is so annoying

[night fractal]

I'm thinking

I might be able to make tags stack partially

For reduced effect

morning star exclusively crit
dark harvest flat + dark energy
kalei flat + crit

[smoky dock]

I like that method because it means that when I wanna be close and be aggressive, I can use Firecracker for a few whips and switch to something else when I need to retreat out of range

[little steppe]

I dont use summons for damage

[steep cobalt]

the woman who sold the moon
the man who sold the world

[night fractal]

Oh that finally sent

[little steppe]

I use for defense

beacuse I'm way too biased towards defense

[steep cobalt]

that's what fargo did

[smoky dock]

Could be really neat with unique effects. Like dark harvest's dark energy appearing as long as you use it can help spread debuffs

[steep cobalt]

and hey it's palatable enough

[night fractal]

my idea is

morning star is for all-in multi/crit
dark harvest for all-in flat
kalei for a balance

same with firecracker/cool whip/durendal

[grizzled onyx]

i remember seeing a post about someone playing summoner with auto reuse and whipstacking like 6 whips at once

Sometimes, there were 3 whips out AT ONCE

[steep cobalt]

the first thing i shall do when the summoner rework comes is to rigorously test the new whip changes and then disparage them all

[smoky dock]

what the fuck

[grizzled onyx]

as you could guess
their damage was... pretty high

[smoky dock]

well all the more reason to experiment and find out

[maiden fjord]

okay stacking 6 whips at once is crazy

[grizzled onyx]

they were attacking so fast that 3 whips were often out attacking at the same time

Turned Firecracker into Firecracked

[night fractal]

i changed my mind i'm not balancing summoner rn that sounds boring

(and i don't have a mouse idk where it is)

[grizzled onyx]

what is the sweatiest gameplay you have seen

[smoky dock]

no holds barred speedkills

where fights are measured in frames and astrageldon requires the beefiest PC known to man

[grizzled onyx]

someone nohit ||the Roaring Knight|| like 4 hours after the chapter released

[smoky dock]

this about deltarune?

[night fractal]

i assume so

[smoky dock]

presumably

[night fractal]

idk i don't deltarune

[grizzled onyx]

talking about the sweatiest gameplay i have seen

[night fractal]

i'm busy with zzz 2.0

[steep cobalt]

juandice

[smoky dock]

what the fuck is deltarune

[smoky dock]

oh wait you said "you have seen"

[humble marlin]

the sweatiest gameplay ive seen is optrix's maddi nohit exos

[grizzled onyx]

yeah people nohiting a boss 3 minutes after the game was released is always so damn sweaty

[night fractal]

that time i hit 12 million dmg in one hit

[smoky dock]

yeah I haven't seen much of the sweatiest Terraria gameplay... I can fathom the sweatiest play, though

[grizzled onyx]

someone once beat Infernum Exos with a wand of sparking

Myra

[night fractal]

are embeds enabled here

[smoky dock]

Yes

[grizzled onyx]

might know her name

[smoky dock]

We're free 🙏

[grizzled onyx]

she is pretty infamous

[smoky dock]

Don't ruin that or I'll mount your head on a spike

[night fractal]

ok

https://youtu.be/-rP9MEZ3AL8

this one

i didn't even have alcohol poisoning

[grizzled onyx]

i see

[humble marlin]

https://youtu.be/i1avPb59bzs

[smoky dock]

I assume this is pre-brimflame nerf

[night fractal]

yes

[smoky dock]

makes sense

traitorous is there because crunchy 25,000 base damage

[grizzled onyx]

interesting

but why biofussilade

[smoky dock]

presumably because it shoots fast so it can proc traitorous

doesn't it have like, a use time of 2?

[lean oak]

Does everlasting light mess with rift eclipse or not?

[grizzled onyx]

Also, just curious, what weapon sets are you developers planning on reworking? I know about Elemental set, but what others?

[smoky dock]

God Biofussilade is such a cool-ass name for a weapon

[night fractal]

yup

something like that

[grizzled onyx]

but its visuals are garbage

[night fractal]

this is before traitorous scaled from weapon mana cost

[humble marlin]

meld set, miracle matter set and some others idr the name

[smoky dock]

Yes, lamest weapon of all time

[night fractal]

yes

[smoky dock]

that's news to me

[grizzled onyx]

i think the only one left to fully rework is the magnomaly cannon

[night fractal]

it now deals 80x mana cost

or smth

[grizzled onyx]

god that thing sucks

@night fractal are you going to rework ALL MM weapons?

[night fractal]

idk

[grizzled onyx]

Which ones do you know you will be reworking for sure?

[night fractal]

no idea

[grizzled onyx]

I think Magnomaly

due to

well

it hasnt been reworked unlike all other MM weapons

it has been left behind

[night fractal]

vivid clarity needs help too

[grizzled onyx]

oh yes absolutely

its visuals look like it comes from 2016

probably because they were

[silver wadi]

honestly a good chunk of the exo weapons are painfully mid

hope a lot of them got a touch up in SSO

or are getting one

I really kinda hope clarity's entire tree gets some touch ups, only one in that entire tree I genuinely enjoyed using over other options was photosynthesis

[night fractal]

Valk ray is cool too

[silver wadi]

infernal rift was fun too

it is, but I didn't really enjoy it more than other options

it was just kinda alright

no problems with it, just not the craziest

kinda the same with night's ray, it's alright but nothing special

[dusty cobalt]

What's sso

[bold rose]

what mage weapon do i use for wof

[silver wadi]

sunken sea update

I love worldgen

on the bright side it's some really easy cavern access

[humble marlin]

so much water

[humble marlin]

black anurian

[bold rose]

how do i get it

[humble marlin]

!wiki black anurian

[hollow dove]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Black_Anurian

[humble marlin]

wait nvm

#calamity-addon-talk message

[silver wadi]

fyi, the obtainment method changes if you have infernum

[humble marlin]

this message

[silver wadi]

I'm gonna be so honest idk why infernum changes all the abyss loot

I don't mind the worldgen changes too much, apart from layer 2 practically not existing

but the lack of chests is kinda annoying

[weak spade]

Because it’s more unique

[silver wadi]

yeah but we don't call the blossom grove unique for generating in space

even though it is certainly unique

[smoky dock]

no clue

i guess the infernum dev thought the abyss sucked

or possibly the AEW rework required too much space so widening the abyss became required

[crude oak]

its fun

infernum abyss

also the only good mm weapons are subsuming vortex and supernova ❤️

exoblade because its the best out of an awful set of options

and idk about ranger cos ive never played

[placid relic]

best way to make money infernum?

[crude oak]

what progression point

and do you have alchemist npc

[placid relic]

yes and we are just before wof

[crude oak]

move architect into jungle

buy a sky mill

place it

break it

buy as many as you can

stack them on the one on your inventory

and sell

repeat

or shimmer greater luck potions

[placid relic]

ah mk
i think ive done something like this before

[crude oak]

thats more money but u need a plat coin to start it

[placid relic]

through?

[crude oak]

buy one of alchemist

get an alchemy table

and just keep shimmering and crafting them

dunno if they patched that tho

[placid relic]

wheres the money in that

[crude oak]

u can craft infinite greater luck potions

[placid relic]

ah cool

thanks