tech-coding-math

[paper shoal]

ahh i see

am i going to notice any difference between 1ms vs 0.5 ms response time?

https://www.amazon.in/Acer-Nitro-23-8-1080-0-5-Response/dp/B088FLG41L/

this one is .5 ms

with 165 hz

fire deal ngl

[jovial tide]

No difference really, but you can always use reviews on YouTube to help ig

[devout socket]

^ youtube is honestly the biggest help

[analog wharf]

TN has better refresh rates but IPS has WAY better colours and a better viewing angle, I would go for ips even if you lose out on refresh rate.

[paper shoal]

g sync vs free sync

which ones better

[jovial tide]

I believe gsync is for NVIDIA gpus, while free sync is for Radeon gpus

but unless you're planning on using them, I wouldn't worry. But if you are, there's some good videos explaining what gsync and freesync actually are

[civic cloud]

IPS and VA Panel are just as good these days

[civic cloud]

Same shit these days

[lost fossil]

gsync is for nvidia, freesync is for everyone (exceptions apply)

if you see gsync ready in the marketing material, it's a freesync display

as far as your eyes are concerned, they're the same thing

[cold elbow]

Adaptive sync

[paper shoal]

uh

[haughty basin]

I am here

[mighty mountain]

Alright I'll give you a few questions I've prepared for this sort of thing

[haughty basin]

Alright

[mighty mountain]

Answer those and it'll help for knowing what to do

[haughty basin]

Alright

[mighty mountain]

1. Is it PC only or other parts too like monitor or keyboard or mouse
2. Budget. And do you actually want to spend that much or try to reduce it.
3. If you have a monitor already what resolution is it?
4. Do you already have a computer or laptop and will that still be in use after buying this computer?
5. Is portability something that concerns you. Aka do you want your computer to be big or small or medium size
6. What will it primarily be used for
7. Do you have any brand preference like intel or AMD or are you fine with anything
8. How long do you plan on using it/How long do you want it to last
9. When do you plan on making the purchase
10. How sensitive are you to noise?

[haughty basin]

Well I’m only looking for pc parts I and a tower

My budget is

2,500

[mighty mountain]

USD?

[haughty basin]

Indeed

[mighty mountain]

That's quite a hefty one, alright continue

Actually before that, do you actually want to spend that much

[haughty basin]

Yeah I’m willing to spend that much

[mighty mountain]

Because realistically even a 1000USD machine can be very good, it ultimately depends on your needs

We'll know when you answer the other questions, carry on

[haughty basin]

My resolution is 2560×1440

I believe

[cold elbow]

And sell it after two weeks?

[haughty basin]

No I won’t sell such a thing

I’ll probably sell my ass pc to my cousin

[mighty mountain]

Don't interrupt man let him answer the questions

[cold elbow]

Start with something reasonable so u won't regret your choices later.

[haughty basin]

4. I will not be using my old pc

After the purchase

Portability doesn’t concern me

6. my pc will primarily be used for gaming and work related things

[mighty mountain]

Can you elaborate on work related things

[haughty basin]

Study

[mighty mountain]

So just documents and meetings and videos? You won't be doing something like video production or 3d or programming I assume?

[haughty basin]

Yeah, it’ll just be documents and occasional meetings

Nothing like programming

[mighty mountain]

What about steaming? Like on discord or twitch or youtube

[haughty basin]

Well ill stream time to time to my friends

[mighty mountain]

Or recording

Alright, good to know then

[haughty basin]

7. I don’t have a brand preference so I’m fine with anything decent

8. I plan on using my pc for as long as I can

9. I plan on making a purchase during the following week

10. I am not sensitive to noise

[mighty mountain]

The monitor you mentioned, are you using it right now?

[haughty basin]

No unfortunately as my pc is in my gaming room

[mighty mountain]

Alright, later when you're free or able to I'd like you to check on the refresh rate of that
Your primary purpose is gaming, can you tell what kind of games?

[lost fossil]

i was not sensitive to noise either until i moved my nas with 10 clicking drives out of my room which made me appreciate silence

[haughty basin]

Well I guess I will wait for that day

Until then I’m not sensitive to noise

[mighty mountain]

Honestly noise can just be overlooked with headphones.

But I ask just in case

[haughty basin]

Oh, yes I’ll mostly be playing high end games suitable for a decent computer in order to run the games

Such as

I am not really sure of what games as of now

But I would need a pc that can run games well

[mighty mountain]

Alright
The first and most universal advice I can give is, for whatever parts you'll be getting, investigate different stores both online and locally for the parts, as whatever suggestion you might get might end up being for nothing if the parts are unavailable or priced much differently

[haughty basin]

Alright

[mighty mountain]

If you happen to be in a country that supports Honey, the browser extension, try that, and their website also allows for searching the same thing across different stores

[haughty basin]

Alright mr beast

Honey it is

[mighty mountain]

Not sponsored lol, I actually use it

[cold elbow]

My pc is dead silent after a lot of effort and adjustments
Even with load

[haughty basin]

Yeah I use it also

[mighty mountain]

Anyways, for the parts themselves, at that budget you can pretty much go top of the line. The question is do you want to
If all you do is gaming, and yes it can be heavy but you don't need something like a 16 core processor, then you can definitely get a very powerful build for around 1500$

[haughty basin]

Hm alright

I guess

1,500 is a good price

I also need a nice looking tower

[mighty mountain]

Can you tell which country you're in, there's a website called pcpartpicker that lets you easily see and build a computer and it collects prices from different stores

[haughty basin]

I’m in the USA

[mighty mountain]

Ah, perfect, I'll send you a pcpartpicker link in a few minutes then

[haughty basin]

Alrighty

[analog wharf]

I like my pc to be loud

[lost fossil]

you bought 100% of the cooling so you're using 100% of it

[arctic yarrow]

That's called overclocking I think.

[analog wharf]

Yes.

[mighty mountain]

So my power is out right now and I'm almost out of mobile data
I'll be able to assemble the list when it gets back in 11 minutes

[haughty basin]

Alright

[craggy thicket]

Banned olive#7031 (Case #164948) (user notified with a direct message)

[mighty mountain]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PZnw3y 12700k, RTX 3070 Ti, DDR4 32 Gigs, 2186 USD
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sPbdqm 12600k, RTX 3070 Ti, DDR4 16 Gigs, 2005 USD
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zWnw3y 5800X, RTX 3070 Ti, DDR4 32 Gigs, 2034 USD
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/32KGk9 5600X, RTX 3070 Ti, DDR4 16 Gigs, 1850 USD
Common across all: 2TB SSD, 750W PSU, Corsair H150i Triple Rad Cooler, Lian Li O11 Dynamic Mini Snow Edition

[mighty mountain]

alright lets get down to business

[haughty basin]

Alrighty

[mighty mountain]

so you have in front of you 4 options.
realistically, in games they differ by about 10% at most. in a blind test you won't notice

the first two options are from intel. they offer the better gaming performance compared to the last two, which is AMD. but as you'll notice they also cost more

[haughty basin]

Hm, I see

The last option looks nice

But

I’ll go with the second

[mighty mountain]

in terms of gaming they're all about equal, they really just differ in terms of core counts.
The reason I even listed this many options is for you to see what you'd get if you paid more. Core counts are very useful and important for productivity, but if all you do is gaming with a bit of streaming on the side, you can completely ignore the 1st and 3rd option

Unless and only unless you ever plan to pick up something like: Blender, Programming, Video production, AutoCAD, really any skill that requires top of the line hardware, you'll be fine. And even if you do, in the future, the 2nd and 4th option are still very good

[lost fossil]

why o11 in all of them

[mighty mountain]

So, sticking to the second and fourth option:
The second one is better, but costs more. That's pretty much it in a summary.

[mighty mountain]

wanted to reduce variables between fundamental parts

[lost fossil]

but why o11

[mighty mountain]

cuz its a nice case...

and the others were like 150 to 180 so this felt better at 130

[lost fossil]

it's expensive and comes with no fans

and u didn't include any fans

[mighty mountain]

ehhhh i didnt think much about it

just consider it a placeholder for now i guess

it can be changed later.

as for the GPU the 3080 was 1200 dollars while the 3070 Ti was this much on the website so obviously went with that.

@haughty basin so, second one? i can explain further about it then if you want
if you'll be buying using PcPartPicker though then dont use the links above, ill make a better list, just wanted your opinion out of the stuff i changed

[haughty basin]

Alrighty

[mighty mountain]

ok last thing before i make a new list, do you want the machine to look flashy and awesome or do you not care much about how it looks and you're just after performance

because a lot can be included for looks. fans have rgb rings on them and there's lighting strips too

like this

[haughty basin]

Id like it to look awesome

[cold elbow]

Lancool 2 mesh > o11 variants.

[lost fossil]

ld01b > o11

not in terms of temps tho

[mighty mountain]

considering RGB and just how many softwares exist ill have to match the brand of the case with the cooler/fans/both so there's no need to install like 10 softwares

which is being annoying....

corsair's 4000x RGB is a rather beautiful case and can easily link up with a corsair AiO but the front panel gives very little airflow.
on the other hand, lian li makes fantastic cases and fans both but doesn't have an aio

NZXT's RGB cooler lineup is overpriced, it's 270 dollars for a 240mm

cooler master.....ive seen some of their cases, they might be a viable option

[lost fossil]

signal rgb >

[mighty mountain]

WOW.

THAT EXISTS?!

[lost fossil]

lian li galahad

[mighty mountain]

alright well thing is i just watch tech vids im not practically experienced
which lian li case would you recommend

i just saw der8aur use lian li so i thought highly of it, and jayztwocents also build in it and being confused as to why there was nothing wrong with it

that was a funny vid lol

[lost fossil]

idk lian li is not well represented on the russian market so didn't look too much into it when buying a case

[mighty mountain]

hmmm

is there anything wrong with the o11 dynamic though

[mighty mountain]

i dont really understand what the first model here is, dunno what ld01b stands for

[lost fossil]

ld01b is my case

silverstone ld01b

it's kind of a hotbox though but there is a mesh front variant called rl08

[mighty mountain]

small boi
he said portability isn't a concern so big size is fine, so i wanna utilize that to let it have good airflow and looks both

but with Signal RGB i can just go for an NZXT case, or really any case.

thats super helpful

[cold elbow]

that's why you need the lancool 2 mesh

[mighty mountain]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VN6Pfv (NEVERMIND, CHECK THE NEXT OPTION IN THE MESSAGE I REPLIED TO, IGNORE THIS)

anyone else lurking can see and give opinions
spent a lot of time trying to pick out a case that would look good while providing good airflow. but there was always some sort of compromise. either didn't look very good or cost extra (the o11 dynamic with a 3 set fan and a triple rad galahad added like 400 dollars). so im just, settling on this, as there's no need to buy extra fans at thirty dollars a fan.

and yes, the corsair icue 4000x's front panel is very fine and restricts a bit of airflow. but tbh it still works decent and it isn't a hotbox.

[lost fossil]

first if you're going neck deep in rgb then you need to check the list of supported devices on the signalrgb website and base your specs off that list

[mighty mountain]

wanted to just make it look good without having to worry about extra cost. i never realized how expensive triple fan packs were, they're around 100 dollars

the 240mm RGB white rad from corsair is 145 dollars and the 4000x icue comes with 3 fans, and is 120 dollars. the one with better airflow is 105 dollars but doesn't have 3 fans.

it wasn't as much neck deep in rgb as much as it was, getting a good case that had good fans so it wouldn't look weird since slots were filled

[cold elbow]

i would not rely on signal RGB
it's filled with bugs

[mighty mountain]

rgb is overrated, you look at the monitor not the machine

[lost fossil]

mobo brand rgb softwares are also riddled with bugs

[analog wharf]

let me correct you, mobo brand software are riddled with bugs

[cold elbow]

and if you get a gigabyte mobo... RGB fusion gonna brick your OS

[civic cloud]

Yeah it's really fucky

[mighty mountain]

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/kM7Ycf/enthusiast-intel-gamingstreaming-build yeah so turns out when it comes to buying in America I'm terrible at making good financial decisions. Not used to the currency.
This right here is actually even better as a system yet costs 300 dollars less. So. Just use this

@haughty basin

[haughty basin]

Hello

[mighty mountain]

I made a full list but i found one which is way better, so this should serve as a very good machine

You can scroll all the way down for the buy links

[jovial tide]

Anyone know anything specs wise that would be good for just playing GTA / GTA RP, Rbx and maybe in the future higher requirement games?

[brave field]

12th gen Intel + Nvidia GPU of some sort

Depends on your budget range

[hexed crystal]

My bot now replies to users, also 8 ball and rock paper scissors look great ;)

[hexed crystal]

@warm panther @jovial tide You wanna see my bot's old code from when I was 13?

[warm panther]

Sure

[hexed crystal]

🤮

it makes me sick just looking at it

what the fuck was i thinking

[mighty mountain]

It makes you cringe, that's good, that's progress

[hexed crystal]

yeah heres what it looks like now

[mighty mountain]

Functionally the same though way more readable

[hexed crystal]

kinda

[mighty mountain]

I like the little #Kill Me comment lmao

[hexed crystal]

the invalid choice wouldnt work

but yeah same shit

[mighty mountain]

Summarizes programming in one sentence

[hexed crystal]

lmao

i hate long if statements

so thats why that is there

[winter bloom]

Hi

[reef matrix]

i switched from hdmi to dp today and my fps gotten worse, any ideas why?
Im using a USB 3.0 type c to display port adapter on a USB 3.2 Gen 1 type c dp alt mode.

[jovial tide]

Even got the notes too, very helpful for readability when used right

[hexed crystal]

I have an idea to use a modulo to condense the code further but im too tired rn lmao

[iron pecan]

You must have your DMs open to run this command.

[lost fossil]

what the fuck

go back to hdmi

[reef matrix]

damn.. why didn't I think of that

isn't display port better though

[lost fossil]

not when you use through a dozen adapters via usb 3.0

[reef matrix]

It's only a type c Display port adapter

[cold elbow]

[mighty mountain]

Very likely a mux switch thing.

[sour marsh]

@stiff kestrel has this issue, couldn't post due to anti-spam issues

def rps(user_input : str):
    options = ["rock", "paper", "scissors"]
    
    user_choice = str.lower(user_input)
    if user_choice not in options:
        # Perform ctx magic
        return

    options_size = len(options) - 1
    bot_choice = random.randint(0, options_size)

    if options[bot_choice] == user_choice:
        res = "Draw!"
    elif options[(bot_choice + 1) % 3] == user_choice:
        res = "You win!" # represents pairs (rock, paper), (paper, scissors), etc.
    else:
        res = "I win!"```

bruh

<>

[stiff kestrel]

was in response to @hexed crystal lol and it muted me

cant send screenshots sadly

[sour marsh]

yeah we only allow level 5 and above on that

now to take my dumb ass non-coding out of here

[stiff kestrel]

thanks 4 assistance

[hexed crystal]

i was gonna use a modulo actually

[stiff kestrel]

i used a modulo there?

[hexed crystal]

Yeah i know

I mean that i planned on implementing the use of a modulo anyways

[stiff kestrel]

yeah i tried to reply to the comment u made earlier about using a modulo but obvs it didnt work

its good that this could easily generalise for expansions like rock paper scissors lizard spock or smth

[compact sierra]

Is it broken

[lost fossil]

looks like it burned

and the power plug is smashed in

how do u people manage to destroy things that sit in a shelf away from everything

[brave field]

very common, somehow

Feels like 90% of For Parts/Non-Working consoles on ebay are from people reinserting HDMI cables all day long

[lost fossil]

some people should get other things reinserted fr

[slim bluff]

rps = lambda _: random.choice(["I win!", "You win!", "Draw!"])

I'm not wrong

just got some 3D rotational matrices done today

Vector3 rotateVector(const Vector3 v, const Vector2 theta) {
    Vector3 result = v;

    result.x = cosf(theta.x) * v.x - sinf(theta.x) * v.y;
    result.y = sinf(theta.x) * v.x + cosf(theta.x) * v.y;

    result.z = -sinf(theta.y) * result.x + cosf(theta.y) * result.z;
    result.x = cosf(theta.y) * result.x + sinf(theta.y) * result.z;

    return result;
}

[sour marsh]

bruh you pinged the wrong guy

[slim bluff]

sorry

[sour marsh]

[slim bluff]

@hexed crystal #tech-coding-math message

[hexed crystal]

[slim bluff]

works like a charm

>>> rps = lambda _: random.choice(["I win!", "You win!", "Draw!"])
>>> rps("rock")
'I win!'

alternatively I recon there is some bitwise magic you can pull for rock paper scissors

I think an xor might do nicely

but wouldn't tell you who wins

https://tenor.com/view/kotlin-java-programmer-meme-average-kotlin-enjoyer-average-java-fan-gif-21761248

[slim bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/python-gif-20799882

[brave field]

pfft

Become a Jython developer

Enjoy all the worst parts of each ecosystem

https://www.jython.org/

[slim bluff]

rps = lambda _: ["I win!", "You win!", "Draw!"][int(time.time() % 3)]

[latent drum]

Yk how lower end GPUs are just higher tier dies that didnt make the cut

Most of them probably have extra cores that works perfectly fine but are disabled

I always wondered if there is a way to enable them

[slim bluff]

If there was a way and if they existed it would have already been done

with the current state of the gpu market and the overclocking scene

[lost fossil]

they don't make the cut for a reason

[arctic yarrow]

Usually the pathways to those cores have been physically cut to prevent adverse functionality.

[lost fossil]

if they were fully functional, money hungry brands would not put them in cheap cards

[arctic yarrow]

Well, it's also less wasteful.

[lost fossil]

yeah but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pDaw3aAkUk

[arctic yarrow]

Yeah, it's one of those things where the most resource/environmentally friendly option also aligns with corporate interests.

That being said, I'm ok with them using less than perfect chips for lower-end hardware.

[slim bluff]

camera rotation gets a bit fucky when I get close to the poles

that isn't being unable to control a mouse, I am mostly just moving it up and down

Guess I have to next limit the degrees of rotation that the camera can have relative to the forward facing direction

[brave field]

@latent drum There was on some CPUs

[latent drum]

No like , for example it have extra two cores but it aint enough to be another tier

[brave field]

some Athlons, Turons, the ones with ugly names could have their third or fourth cores unlocked

[latent drum]

I know there were 5 cores AMD cpus

Its either they do cut the die even more after the first cut but that would cost more money

Dies get tested after they get cut

So probably they aint physically disabled

[knotty leaf]

Informal survey: If you bought a GPU before the shortage (before September 2020), what was it, and how much did you spend?

I miss the times when high-end GPUs had a $350-400 USD price point.

[vapid grove]

1660 Super. IIRC I paid $229

[knotty leaf]

My heart is fucking breaking

I paid almost $120 USD for a 4GB 570 ($150 CAD)

[arctic yarrow]

RTX 2070s for 300 USD

[lost fossil]

when i bought a 1080ti it was an equivalent of about $1100 in local money

[knotty leaf]

Where was this? Turkey?

[lost fossil]

russia

[arctic yarrow]

Russia

[civic cloud]

Товарищ олег

[knotty leaf]

$160 USD for a 5 year old 4GB GPU is obscene. Fair value is <$100 IMO.
https://i.imgur.com/k9RUa7i.png

[arctic yarrow]

Better than $350 it was selling for during the worst of the shortage.

[civic cloud]

I paid 1k for my 3080 😩

10gb version but no mining limiter

[knotty leaf]

They were selling for $400 CAD on CL in February 2021.

I had the chance to buy an MSI Armor 580 8GB for $130 CAD just before the 30 series dropped, I passed on it since I heard nothing but bad things about MSI's build quality. Kicking myself now

[arctic yarrow]

Well, MSI isn't that bad.

It's Gigabyte you want to watch out for.

[civic cloud]

Yeah fuck gigabyte and their shitty software

I'm upset nobody told me that before

[arctic yarrow]

Yeah, gigabyte is a hard pass from me permanently.

[knotty leaf]

I have some bad news for you...

[lost fossil]

gigabyte vision though

[arctic yarrow]

I'm also passing on buying literally anything from newegg due to selling broken hardware as new or refurbished.

And claiming you broke it.

[civic cloud]

No Newegg in europe

Ez

[knotty leaf]

@arctic yarrow
https://i.imgur.com/aWv0sCb.png
Remember when you said to watch out for Gigabyte? Well...

[arctic yarrow]

RIP

[knotty leaf]

Not like there's anything I can do about it at the moment.

$180 USD for a 10 year old Titan
https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/sop/d/vancouver-geforce-titan-gtx/7491230583.html

@arctic yarrow The best deal I've seen is $218 USD for a 1660 Ti 6GB:
https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rch/sop/d/richmond-west-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660/7491016101.html

[arctic yarrow]

What about a gtx 1060? Granted, if your 570 is still working it wouldn't be that significant of a performance jump.

[vapid grove]

I'd personally just give it another couple months. Prices have been dropping lately, availability is on the rise

Keep tabs on buildapcsales subreddit

[arctic yarrow]

In fact, performance wise I'd say the titan and the 1060 are neck to neck.

[knotty leaf]

It's working just fine, I just worry that it'll struggle with newer games since it's GDDR5 and only 4GB of VRAM.

[knotty leaf]

Canadian, don't live in the US. RIP, I know

[arctic yarrow]

You might need to drop new games down to medium settings on 1080p with your card.

[knotty leaf]

I tried medium settings on FS2020 and it looked gorgeous. Too bad it's more of a VFR game, the selection of widebodies is basically nil compared to FSX/P3D or XP11.

[arctic yarrow]

How was the framerate?

FS2020 is a really demanding title.

[knotty leaf]

I don't remember, sadly. I only played it for a few days on Game Pass, then deleted the game when I found out the widebody selection was lacking. I really wanted to fly a 777-300ER in a modern title. Maybe X-Plane 12 will scratch that itch.

If I had to guess, I'd say low-mid 50s?

[arctic yarrow]

That's actually not bad. In that case, I'd say your card should be fine for the next couple years if you're playing at 1080p resolution.

New games should have AMD FSR support, so you should take advantage of that whenever possible.

[knotty leaf]

It's not like modern titles appeal to me, anyway. Between FO76, NMS, CP2077, BF2042 and the predatory business model of FIFA/Madden/NBA 2K/EA NHL titles, I'm basically playing games from 2018 or earlier nowadays. e.g. Watch Dogs 1, Mafia 1 DE (2020 release but original title was from 2002 so it doesn't kick a GPU's ass like a 2020 AAA title), Cities Skylines, FH4, Civ VI, etc.

[arctic yarrow]

Honestly, same.

[knotty leaf]

Have you tried out any of the newer Forza games? FM7, FH5, etc.

[arctic yarrow]

FH5 yes, it was fun.

Not something I was very competitive in, but achievement hunting is always fun for me.

[knotty leaf]

I have played both 4 and 5. Things I didn't like about 5:
-Music selection just didn't appeal to me
-Current song and artist playing not visible on the pause menu like in FH4, what a terrible way to promote licensed music
-Very buggy
-So much switching between English and Spanish, people don't talk like that in real life! ("We never met but everyone says I'm exactly like him. ¡Loca por autos! You have to understand, Superstar, in Me-hi-co a Vocho is like the family member that lives in your garage. Papá Fernando loved that car to death."
-No public lobbies so the game feels dead
-As a tropical climate, the seasons kind of blend together. At least FH4 has snow since UK is in the midlatitudes.
-Overzealous banning system for custom vinyls, yet PGG does nothing about obvious cheaters on the leaderboards. FH4 has the same leaderboard problem but at least you don't get banned for a custom vinyl that isn't necessarily rated E for Everyone.
-The wheelspin nerf.

It's sad because 5 is the best looking Horizon game and the vehicle engine noises are vastly improved from 4, there's just not enough about it that warrants spending $80 CAD for the regular edition. But maybe I'm just cheap. The only reason I picked up GTAV is because Premium Edition was free during EGS's 2021 Holiday Sale.

[mighty mountain]

GTX 1060 6g, brand new for 280 dollars in 2018
And used RX570 4g in 2019 for 90 dollars. It was actually sold to me as an RX 480 and GPU-Z says it also is an RX 480 but physically the design is an rx 570

So either the cooler of that was put on a 480 or I got a 570 that thinks it's a 480

I'm hopefully getting a new laptop with an RTX 3070 in it this summer

[midnight elm]

my laptop just died for some reason

it turns on but only black screen

how do I wipe the system and reinstall windows

I have another laptop available

[cold elbow]

Download and flash window 10 on a flash drive

It's on their website

Then search how to boot from a flash drive by your laptop

[midnight elm]

Does this work if the laptop I need to fix is non functional?

[pliant lynx]

any logo?

[midnight elm]

Nope

[pliant lynx]

best u get the laptop tech support, the issue probably hardware alrdy

is the fans running?

[pliant lynx]

u need a working pc to install windows in the first place

[midnight elm]

how it happened was, I turned it on but it was being suspicious loudly running, also had an update so I updated it but when I turned it back on it just sat on the desktop unresponsive

[arctic yarrow]

What's a good use for a 16 port 10/100 ethernet switch?

[midnight elm]

it's booting on

[pliant lynx]

16 port?

[arctic yarrow]

Yeah

Thing is a bit ancient, it's about 18 years old.

[pliant lynx]

u want to open up the switch?

[arctic yarrow]

Yeah, gimme a sec to grab my toolkit.

@pliant lynx

[pliant lynx]

hm

i dont see alot of options

[arctic yarrow]

I suppose I could sell it locally for $30.

I don't generally have a use for switches less than 10/100/1000

[pliant lynx]

yeah too old alrdy hue

everything is proprietary

[civic cloud]

[twin badger]

As embarrassing as it sounds, i am only now planning to upgrade to 16 gigs of ram

[brave field]

not embarrassing

Enjoy your extra ram, friend!

definitely not salty that 3 of my DIMM slots aren't working right now

[robust kayak]

Aye guys

[jovial tide]

what's up

[brave field]

How goes?

[analog wharf]

16GB is a huge upgrade if you were previously on 4-8gb of ram. Make sure whatever stick you buy enable xmp though and make sure the rated speed is at least 3200mhz

[hexed crystal]

@warm panther Im gonna start making a database for my bot, I'm gonna use SQL because apparently it works with Python. Would that work or do you have any better suggestions?

[warm panther]

Sql isn’t a database it’s a query language, any database integrates with any language as they just have a protocol you need to implement in the respective language. With that being said I always use PostgreSQL as it’s one of the more modern sql database

[hexed crystal]

ok mr technicalities you know what i mean

[warm panther]

I’m not even being technical your assumption was just way off

[full jacinth]

no context given

[slim bluff]

Using namespace std :(

[twin badger]

That one was known to me for ages

But yeah, i ordered it

[slim bluff]

Redis as permanent storage

[warm panther]

Fr

Also holy shit that message sounded rude

[slim bluff]

Yeah Jake fuck you

Elitist fuck

[midnight elm]

it shows welcome screen now

And stays like that

[brave field]

Can't wait to do those professional-looking but otherwise useless fun things like digital signatures and messing with commits and GPG key shenanigans

[civic cloud]

Nice

[knotty leaf]

Good deal or should I keep waiting? ~$175 USD. If it was $150 CAD/$120 US I'd be more enticed, though ideally an 8gig 580 (5yo card) should be <$100 US.
https://vancouver.craigslist.org/pml/sop/d/maple-ridge-asus-rx-570-8gb/7490253489.html

[brave field]

wouldn't buy anything under a 1070 for >$120

[knotty leaf]

Just found a 580 8gig for $120 US/$150 CAD (same price I paid for a 570 4GB)...but it's Gigabyte. https://vancouver.craigslist.org/pml/sop/d/port-coquitlam-south-gigabyte-rx580-8gb/7492640093.html

[cold elbow]

is modmail a good bot to have or there is something better?

[mossy spear]

I currently have a console and I've been wanting to upgrade to a gaming Laptop, what are some good gaming laptops that run games pretty well and aren't ridiculously expensive?

[tight gazelle]

What is expensive?

[mossy spear]

I guess anything above 800 dollars?

if possible, that is.

[tight gazelle]

Lol, u want a gaming laptop for a price that's under 800???
Let me know when u found one.

[mossy spear]

I said "if possible, that is"

[arctic yarrow]

What geographic location are you in?

[mossy spear]

Earth

[arctic yarrow]

Well, that's obvious unless you're an ISS astronaut.

[mossy spear]

Oh don't worry, I live on land 👍

[arctic yarrow]

I mean what country do you live in?

[mossy spear]

england

[arctic yarrow]

Alright, I'll take a look around.

You'll almost certainly have to purchase preowned at that price

[mossy spear]

you know, I could also buy stuff from other countries too...right?

[arctic yarrow]

Yes, but international shipping is usually very expensive.

[mossy spear]

true true

[arctic yarrow]

@mossy spear How about this?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275308093609

[mossy spear]

hopefully it's not an IP Grabber or something, here I go 💀

Oh damn pretty cheap

[arctic yarrow]

This person does have low amount of feedback tho

291

But it looks like they've sold quite a few laptops.

[mossy spear]

It's used too.

No wonder it's so cheap

[arctic yarrow]

Yes, at that price I would say looking at used options is the best option.

[mossy spear]

Yeah it'll probably be way cheaper and it'll prolly save more money.

Even though it's used

as long as it's in good condition, then it's worth it?

[arctic yarrow]

You could also try looking around for something else that catches your eye on ebay.

[arctic yarrow]

Yeah

[mossy spear]

Surprisingly enough I haven't even checked ebay yet, I've mainly been searching on Amazon

[arctic yarrow]

Amazon is good for finding new and manufacturer refurbished items, but those are almost always more expensive than used.

[mossy spear]

Yeah exactly

Alright well I'll check ebay for a bit and see what I can find on there.

Thanks for the help.

[arctic yarrow]

NP

[lilac heath]

U can easily find laptops under $800 with GTX 1650

[pliant lynx]

Nitro 5 is the most common

[lilac heath]

Yea

[arctic yarrow]

The one linked was one with a 3060

[lilac heath]

Yea MSI offers laptop with pretty good specs at a reasonable price but their after sales support is doubtful tbh

[arctic yarrow]

Hmm, yeah. That might be a factor to look out for. Personally I do my own support with laptops and other modular stuff tho, so support for me is not even an afterthought.

[lilac heath]

Ever Acer cant offer 3060 for less than $800

[arctic yarrow]

TBF, that laptop was in pounds sterling, which is worth 1.25USD each. That laptop is effectively worth $1000.

[lilac heath]

Makes sense now

[fervent granite]

so I guess just ram and storage?

because other than those there's not much else to upgrade in those things

[arctic yarrow]

And batteries.

When laptops I come across get to the point where the motherboard or CPU are fried, usually the support window has passed.

[slate storm]

Macbook pro m1 13 inch?

[fervent granite]

tbh the m1 airs are enough

[lilac heath]

https://youtu.be/VXe-vfscTO0

[fervent granite]

but modularity isn't something I look for anymore, since the gpu/cpu aren't replaceable you're going to be spending a lot anyways, so might as well go all out with storage/ram (as much as I can anyway)

[lilac heath]

Car play features looks promising

[arctic yarrow]

Hmm, do the m1 airs have soldered-on storage?

[fervent granite]

Yup

That's been a thing since 2016 tho

[latent drum]

I cant wait for my RTX 3060 TI

Like comon arrive faster

[latent drum]

Yes

It have

Iam using a GT 740 mean while because i sold my GPU

No

Prev was RX580 8Gb

4 buss days

So from tommo till monday

[grave merlin]

okay so i have a motherboard with 2 sticks of ram with 1333 mhz, now.. What would appen if i were to to put 2 more sticks with the speed of 1600. Will my pc be normal or??

[jovial tide]

Your PC will run at 1333 Mhz

And your two 1600 sticks will decrease speed to 1333 mhz to pair up with the other 2 ones

[grave merlin]

so my pc wont die or anything??

[jovial tide]

If enough electricity is supplied, your PC should be fine

Although make sure you bought RAM for PC and not server...

[grave merlin]

oh oke good, ty

[knotty leaf]

@arctic yarrow Since you're so knowledgeable about tech, I thought I'd ask you this. Is a Gigabyte 580 8GB still worth buying if it's $120 US? Same price in Canadian dollarydoos that I bought my 570 4GB at late 2020.
https://vancouver.craigslist.org/pml/sop/d/port-coquitlam-south-gigabyte-rx580-8gb/7492640093.html

[arctic yarrow]

Well, I wouldn't say a 580 is worth upgrading to from a 570

[knotty leaf]

No shit? How come?

[arctic yarrow]

The performance difference isn't worth the hassle IMO.

If I were you, I'd keep your current card and wait for prices to drop on better performing cards.

[knotty leaf]

I just checked the specs matrix on Wikipedia. 580 has a 90 MHz faster clock (96 MHz for boost), 256 more shaders, 16 more render outputs, +63 GFLOPS double-precision (+67.5 GFLOPS with boost), which seems like such an incremental boost. It's more the doubled VRAM that attracts me.

[knotty leaf]

What do you think an appropriate upgrade path would be? Vega 56/64, RVII, 5500XT 8GB, 5600XT 6GB? Maybe a 16 series? (Obviously used for both.)

[arctic yarrow]

I'll have to take a look, one moment

But from what I can see, it appears the 580 gives a 5-10 fps boost over the 570, which I don't think is worth it for an upgrade.

What is your price limit btw?

[knotty leaf]

I don't have a set price limit, it's more of waiting for used GPU to get close to pre-shortage pricing. AKA, "I'll know it when I see it". If I can get a 1660 Super for ~$200 US (not sure which AMD card has similar performance) I'll be a happy camper.

[arctic yarrow]

Hmm yeah, that seems to double the performance compared to the rx 570

That would be a worthwhile upgrade.

[knotty leaf]

Since my screen is only 1080p I feel I'd get diminishing returns with the 10-12GB cards that are popular as of late.

[arctic yarrow]

@knotty leaf how does this look?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/325221444883?hash=item4bb8b56d13%3Ag%3AzLcAAOSwFGZin2oi&LH_BIN=1

There's a few others at that same price point:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=1660+super&_sacat=0&_sop=15&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1

[knotty leaf]

It's enticing...why only one fan, though?

[arctic yarrow]

It's a low-profile card

[knotty leaf]

Will the reduced cooling power be a disadvantage?

[arctic yarrow]

A little bit. You'll probably see a max temperature of 80c when gaming, so you basically don't have any overclocking headroom.

But if you're not overclocking your gpu anyway, it should be fine.

[knotty leaf]

How will I know this wasn't used for crypto mining (which strains the VRAM)?

[arctic yarrow]

Unfortunately, there's no way of telling.

However, I wouldn't worry too much about mining, because gaming stresses out the gpu and vram more than mining. Mining would keep it at a constant temperature, while gaming results in variable temperatures, causing thermal stress.

[knotty leaf]

I hope you're right. I'm asking some other Canadians in the PCMR Discord and they say try to find one w/o import fees

[knotty leaf]

@arctic yarrow I was recommended this card, but I feel like it's still priced in shortage territory ($280 US for a low profile 2060 shucked out of a laptop): https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/sop/d/vancouver-rtx-gb-graphics-card/7492627842.html

[arctic yarrow]

Yeah, I'd hold off on that. MSRP for the 2060 at launch was 350. I'd say it's worth 280 if the market wasn't messed up.

[jovial tide]

yo anyone know java hit me up school smh

Java? I wish you luck

[knotty leaf]

Oh good, I'm not going crazy. One of the PCMR mods recommended I pounce on it and I almost did.

[lost fossil]

https://dontasktoask.com/

ty

[latent drum]

Bro i just sold my RX580

Please

Dont get it , its very shit

if you coming from 570 its even worth

Thats like 5-12 extra fps at most

[brave field]

580 is a solid card but I also agree that you shouldn't spend money on an 11% performance uplift

[knotty leaf]

If you read my conversation with Bartor, you'll see that I have decided to pass on upgrading for now, since used prices are still out of control.

[latent drum]

It aint

You need a very good version to stay cool

[brave field]

I did read back when it was new, but I had a sudden urge to pile on. My apologies.

[latent drum]

And it have powerpeaks up to 192W

[knotty leaf]

No worries

[brave field]

@latent drum fair

I have this doodoo Maxsun model that sounds like an airplane under load, so I set a lessened fan curve and it stays quiet
still, just a loss of <20fps isn't that bad on a card that gets >100 in many titles

[knotty leaf]

$200 US for a 2060 would be ideal, but I don't think I'll see those prices until Nvidia stops providing drivers. Especially with the inflated MSRP of the 40 series coming

[latent drum]

Lower fan curve = hotter

Doesnt run at max speed

[knotty leaf]

Mine is Gigabyte, which apparently is a crappy board partner

[lost fossil]

i mean tbf 580 is just an older card with boosted clocks and we know from intel how well stuff like that translates to temperatures

[latent drum]

And with how crap the coolers are , undervolting is effective with open case

200$ 2016 overclocked gpu with flagship TDP

(at the time)

People really under estimate how efficient stuff got

Sucks same power but less hot

[brave field]

The complaints about the RTX 30 series...

Yes, power usage is up. Did your 1070 also have dedicated raytracing hardware and dedicated machine learning hardware? Did it have a much larger video decode/encode block? GPUs are taking on so many extra jobs now

[latent drum]

I mean its only above the 3080 with heat issues

Most 3060 TIs in the market suck 200W-220W and run mid 60s C

Tell this to someone 4 years ago and they would be asking you what asus strix rog magic is that

[lost fossil]

4090ti finna be sold like these review packages you see from msi and shit

comes bundled with a 1600w power supply

[latent drum]

I dont care if it sucks big power

Just if its cool

I dont think we are at the point were the silicon is efficient enough to passthrough 450W of power

I think next gen 300W would be good with decent coolers

[lost fossil]

yes but

if you have silicon that can passthrough 300w

get 2 silicons to passthrough 600w

[latent drum]

Remember silicon is basically a giant dynamic resistor

[latent drum]

Sadly next gen isnt MCM

[latent drum]

Gaming stresses the GPU more not the VRAM

Mining kills vram easy

I have done alot of AI , calculations and shit in VRAM before

Never got that stressed as mining

[arctic yarrow]

Well, you're more qualified to talk about it than I am. Thanks for clearing up that misconception I had.

[latent drum]

Also most miners overclock the vram

Like by alot

Thats why alot of mining cards have faulty or dead vram

[jovial tide]

That wire always disconnects on one side

If you take it to a shop they can solder it for free

[slim bluff]

Yeah doesn't look like a hard job

Wire strippers and then solder

[arctic yarrow]

I find it mind blowing that the 6950xt performs 5% less than the 3090ti while costing $1000 less and uses about 150w less power.

Makes me wonder how it would have performed if they decided to use the same power draw.

[cold elbow]

They cant just use the same power draw

[arctic yarrow]

IK, but I am wondering what the amount of performance would be if AMD designed around drawing 480w.

[civic cloud]

3

[analog wharf]

The reason amd won this gen of graphics cards imo

DLSS is good but the power usage of amd is pretty amazing

[arctic yarrow]

Well, AMD has FSR, which is almost as good as DLSS and doesn't require dedicated hardware.

Then again, it's available for nvidia as well.

One of my friends uses it for his gtx 950

IG AMD coming up with a good ai upscaling solution really undercut nvidia, basically renewing nvidia's older cards

[muted radish]

barely holding on

[arctic yarrow]

Laptop or desktop?

[muted radish]

laptop

i restart laptop i magically have 17 gb left

wtf

[small mural]

Upgrade your ssd

[arctic yarrow]

Hmm, do you know if there's an extra 2.5 inch slot in your laptop?

[muted radish]

there is

[arctic yarrow]

If you have a walmart nearby, they sell 500gb ssds for $50.

[muted radish]

whats the write speed usually tho

[arctic yarrow]

Around 550mbps, hitting the cap bandwidth for sata 3

[muted radish]

oh

idfk the write speed for my m.2 in my laptop but its not good

thats why i get better download speeds on my xbox lmfao it took me this long to realize

[arctic yarrow]

Honestly, for most applications you wouldn't notice a difference between sata and m.2 ssds.

[muted radish]

yea

i get like 2 mbps on here but like 20 on my xbox i def need a new ssd

[arctic yarrow]

Hmm, is that when downloading?

[muted radish]

yes

[arctic yarrow]

Your NIC could be having issues.

[muted radish]

wtf is a nic

[arctic yarrow]

Network interface card.

[muted radish]

oh

[arctic yarrow]

I assume you use wifi, right?

[muted radish]

ys

yes

the ethernet cable doesnt reach to my room

[arctic yarrow]

Try comparing the speeds on your laptop with your phone in the same area.

[muted radish]

where would i test like a wifi test website

[arctic yarrow]

speedtest.net for your laptop, the speedtest app for your phone.

[muted radish]

it says 20 but i get 2 for my laptop

[arctic yarrow]

Hmm, are you looking at the speeds on a steam download?

That explains it. Steam measures game downloads in megabytes per second, while steam measures in megabits per second

a byte is 8x larger than a bit

[muted radish]

oh

[arctic yarrow]

So if you're showing 2 megabytes per second on steam, its 16 megabits per second.

[muted radish]

oh

[arctic yarrow]

So there really is nothing wrong other than two different measurements being used.

[muted radish]

makes sense

[arctic yarrow]

Anyway, I'd check walmart or amazon for a 2.5 inch ssd to increase your storage.

[lost fossil]

https://www.homedev.com.au/Free/PatchCleaner running this might be good

it deletes waste from windows update folders

it does wonders for me at work and one time i used it to delete almost 130gb of unused windows update files

[cold elbow]

i use this after every update

[lost fossil]

never worked for me

[knotty leaf]

What do you think the expanded bandwidth of PCIe 5.0 and 6.0 will be used for?

One consumer use case I've heard of is reducing the # of lanes per device. So a PCIe3 x16 GPU might only need 8 PCIe5/6 lanes

[lost fossil]

good idea

bc otherwise even 4.0 is too much for a gpu

[arctic yarrow]

Moar powerful gpu!

[knotty leaf]

I think most of the demand will be on the enterprise side. Fast bus access scales well with racks upon racks of servers all doing number crunching

[cold elbow]

Storage
For direct storage

[knotty leaf]

Oh yeah I forgot about DirectStorage. I was thinking more along the lines of enterprise getting the most out of PCIe 5/6

[brave field]

m.2 NVMe slots on the backside of the GPU

do it

and USB-C display outputs, bring them back

[civic cloud]

Porn

[lilac heath]

[plucky raft]

Bonk

[cold elbow]

Is it bad to post naked linus Sebastian here?

[civic cloud]

No

[plucky raft]

Yes

[lilac heath]

No

[lunar anvil]

why does random-named folders and files appear on my hdd

some of them are removable, some are not

[lost fossil]

such as?

pics or didn't happen

[pliant lynx]

is ur os installed on that

[lunar anvil]

no, i own an ssd

and they always appear inside program files x86

they look like this

[pliant lynx]

what the content inside

[lunar anvil]

a hidden file with the same name

the format is also "file"

[lost fossil]

that's an uuid

[pliant lynx]

sus

[lost fossil]

have you tried googling that string

the folder name

[lunar anvil]

ok it's no longer sus

the file's from a game pass game

i wonder which one though

[junior flax]

@lost fossil

Excuse me

Umm my pc is showing blsck screen and idk what to do

I plugged into mobo,gpu both not showimg

Tried hdmi instead of pci

[junior flax]

Nvm sorted it

[cold elbow]

That looks like one of the temporary files that window create while installing a new software... Sometimes it doesn't remove them after.

[lunar anvil]

yeah, idk which but np

[trail sentinel]

Someone really good with GTA V modding?
I need to know how to increase the tracking capability of the Lazer or any other Jet

[brave field]

Anyone else look at a guide for implementing FIDO2 auth into any sort of backend framework and have a brain short circuit?

I'm looking at doing it in FastAPI/Flask, but it seems just as convoluted as the Django, Spring Boot, and ASP guides

[trail sentinel]

I didn't know sorry.
Secondly I wasn't planning to use it for Online just for normal SP

[fallow forge]

Once again my pc surprises me with a new random issue

Every now and then, no matter what im doing my pc freezes

Audio starts stuttering, screen stutters, keyboard/mouse stop working for a second, and any keys i had pressed when it happens get stuck and i cannot get them unstuck without rebooting my pc

Anyone knows why this could happen ?

[fervent granite]

maybe you're due for a clean install?

[cold elbow]

Might be a storage issue
Look at your HDD led when that happens
Verify windows filed and update what you can from BIOS to graphics.

[twin badger]

I occasionally get this weird buzzing sound for a short moment while gaming or watching videos, happened before too, but started happening even more frequently after the RAM upgrade

[lost fossil]

gsm buzz

[twin badger]

huh

[civic cloud]

buzzing

[twin badger]

Idk how to explain it

[frigid echo]

Sounds like electronic noise. Also believe it or not ram vibrates very fast. Which would result in some electronic interference

The inside of a computer/ laptop is a very noisy place.

[placid peak]

does anyone know python

if so can you help me

[twin badger]

What could i do to prevent that?

[frigid echo]

Few things are preventable. The easiest is buying an external DAC, which is like an external sound card that is self isolated from the pc.

Harder options are trying better cables with insulation, if the cable is picking up the noise

If the noise is coming from inside tge pc an expensive in line noise filtering cable could work.

I really just recommend the DAC/ amp life its the easiest and works best.

[twin badger]

Do you also know, what to do, if my headphone and mic jack do not work together? Essentially, if i plug both of em in, it will keep cycling between the mic and headset, they do not work together properly

[slim bluff]

ever wanted a dark theme on discord without breaking tos and using better discord? https://discord.com/__development/link?s=Z7XEywE8rsgTvI0MR9P4OknzH4LtPi9j9%2Br8Hwzrohg%3D.eyJ0YXJnZXRCdWlsZE92ZXJyaWRlIjp7ImRpc2NvcmRfd2ViIjp7InR5cGUiOiJicmFuY2giLCJpZCI6ImFubmllL2RhcmsifX0sInJlbGVhc2VDaGFubmVsIjpudWxsLCJ2YWxpZEZvclVzZXJJZHMiOltdLCJhbGxvd0xvZ2dlZE91dCI6ZmFsc2UsImV4cGlyZXNBdCI6IlN1biwgMjggSmFuIDIwMjQgMDE6NTU6MDcgR01UIn0%3D

[civic cloud]

But

Discord has a dark theme

[slim bluff]

not like this one

there is an equivalent to this on mobile called "amoled" but you can't enable it on desktop

[civic cloud]

Well yeah, basically nobody has an OLED display for pc

[slim bluff]

yeah but all I care about is looking nice

[lost fossil]

but those who do can flex on plebs

tfw i get flexed on

[analog wharf]

the proper dark theme. Instead of just grey

[lost fossil]

can i have a build override that allows me to accept nitro gifts thanks u @slim bluff

[slim bluff]

you wouldn't need it because no one will give you one anyway

[slim bluff]

people are so polarised on this one, some people love it some people think the normal "dark" mode is better

I'm in the camp of absolutely loving it

It seems all of my programmer friends love it too since the programming culture seems to be how dark can you get your editor as possible

[lost fossil]

yes but that would allow me to for myself

[slim bluff]

can you not do that already

[lost fossil]

it would appear that you've been living under a rock for the past 3 months

no i can't without doing dumb shenanigans because discord doesn't allow me to

[jovial tide]

So how do you go about buying nitro then? Or is just running on left over nitro credit rn?

[warm panther]

Anyone big brain with pc wires?

[warm panther]

Lol is this discord’s way of standing with Ukraine

[jovial tide]

As long as they're hidden away, I don't even worry about how tidy they are 😭

[warm panther]

No like

[jovial tide]

As long as the back panel shuts

[warm panther]

How to connect them

I can do most

Some just make no fucking sense

Welp last time I did this I just plugged shit in and it worked

[jovial tide]

https://youtu.be/ek6LG3oHHmg

This one helped me

[warm panther]

Noice, yeah it’s the usb headers that are confusing me

I’ll che k it out

[lost fossil]

this dude writes code but doesn't know where various cables in a computer go

[warm panther]

Loll

I know how to build a pc that’s literally the only part I kinda have trouble with

[civic cloud]

All the time oli boi

[civic cloud]

Don't be too hard on the USB headers, they break off easily

[warm panther]

This shit is pissing me off though

I can’t undo it without ripping out the whole connector

And there’s no latch or anything

[warm panther]

Noted ty

[civic cloud]

Yeah you're fucked, gotta accept it like that lmao

[warm panther]

Lmfao

Eh

It’s only front usb

(I think)

[lost fossil]

wiggle it

[warm panther]

Did that

[fallow forge]

the freezing is happening more often now, nothing weird showing in task manager

[civic cloud]

Wot freezing skippy

[fallow forge]

this

[civic cloud]

Slow storage or windows doing windows things

Maybe you got a crypto miner running in the background

[frigid echo]

There is a dac amp with mic support that would fix that

[fallow forge]

how can i check that

[frigid echo]

You have options like the cheap Syba sonic, mid option schiit Fulla, or a bit high Mayflower Arc

[twin badger]

How cheap are we talking?

Obviously i dont wanna spend fortune on this

[civic cloud]

Update windows

[civic cloud]

Schiit is like 100-300

[fallow forge]

i dont have a pending update

only to windows 11

[civic cloud]

heck

Idk then

[frigid echo]

50ish, 100ish, then 150 to 300ish in that order of what I told you

[twin badger]

Well, a bit too much just to be able to use both my mic and the headphones itself on my headset...

[slim bluff]

shitty pr stuff tbh

kind of like github getting rid of master

does nothing for black rights and no one was ever offended by it

just trying show that they support blm

[ruby nymph]

how do i get my discord userid

nvm got it

[slim bluff]

it's 894648886151487559

[ruby nymph]

ty sm

[finite mauve]

Ok so I just fixed Win11 from a serious application breaking issue. Discord wouldn't start and Event Viewer wouldn't either. I scanned for malware using bootable AV, nothing. Then I did some research. On a whim I tried what a website suggested; check Window Features for .Net . Sure enough .Net 2.0 and 3.0 were not selected, they were disabled and removed. Upon selecting .Net everything worked. No fucking clue what removed .Net

[cold elbow]

[fervent granite]

should've stayed on 10

[calm shale]

ikr

but this is mostly personal preference

[analog wharf]

22h2

[fervent granite]

21h2 gang

[civic cloud]

Does it have an SSD? If no: buy ssd

Does it have an SSD? Install linux and maybe get another 2 years of life

If none of that helps, buy new laptop

[lost fossil]

yes a cheap 250gb ssd will do wonders for an old craptop

[fervent granite]

Does it have extra ram slots? download buy more ram

[twin badger]

Also make sure its not thermal throttling too hard

[warm panther]

Yup

I agree

This is the problem with the internet ppl don’t let the big boys handle this stuff. Like governments are already dumping millions into Ukraine.

[worn perch]

If I reset my xbox and choose not to reset my games and apps would all my saved games be OK?

[mossy grove]

Your Xbox settings will be reset however your games and apps saves etc will stay on the console

[toxic juniper]

I can code too but can't even insert a sd card reader properly

[paper shoal]

ive got an external monitor but its not showing the desktop

windows is detecting it

and the menu on the monitor is working fine

but its just a black screen

i've also set the project type to duplicate

and also updated windows

but still

[toxic juniper]

Try extending had it happen once

U sure it's ok?

[paper shoal]

yes

i think

it came in like an hour ago

i would replace it but im not sure if its the cable's fault,windows or the monitor itself

[civic cloud]

Are you using DP or HDMI cable?

HDMI is shaped like a D if you look at it from the front

DP has 3x90° corners

And one rounded one

[paper shoal]

hdmi

its detecting tho

[civic cloud]

Yeah no idea, just fuck around with it

On/off

Replug cable

Change ports

WAIT

WHERE DID YOU PLUG IT IN

[paper shoal]

what lol

into hdmi one

it wouldn't detect the display if i didn't

[civic cloud]

Motherboard or gpu

[paper shoal]

lappy

[civic cloud]

Are you sure it supports two displays?

[paper shoal]

the laptop?

yes

[civic cloud]

Hmmmmmmm

Yeah no idea

Sowy

[fallow forge]

These freezes are getting worse now

Before they lasted a second at most, now its a solid 5 seconds of freezing

[civic cloud]

U done fucked up boi

[fallow forge]

how tho

task manager shows nothing

no viruses, no malware

[lost fossil]

i think if you have it set to duplicate then both monitors need to use the same resolution

and maybe even refresh rate

try to set it to extend

see if it works like that at all

if not then something else aint work

[cold elbow]

fffs

[civic cloud]

What's wrong with that

Looks cute :)

[cold elbow]

it is dead

again

[civic cloud]

Oh

Heck :(

[jovial tide]

[slim bluff]

looks like you need a more robust language, time to shill rust

[brave field]

under deep discounts, sometimes

[lost fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/excuse-me-gif-19259515

[plucky raft]

Used to be my desktop except it's not portable

[nimble torrent]

2+2=4

[normal knot]

ah

yes

[civic cloud]

Smol game

[lilac heath]

Only

[paper shoal]

nah

fakeREAL*

[gilded kayak]

not even doing something on my laptop rn but somehow its 79 degrees

[supple walrus]

eh there's something seriously wrong there

mine idles at ~30

if that

[gilded kayak]

It doesnt reall care becouse i just bought al the parts for my pc

[cold elbow]

That's the laptop experience

[pliant lynx]

u get used to it

[analog wharf]

gaming laptops in a nutshell, mini itx ftw if you want portable

[lofty gate]

just had a calc final

free

[latent drum]

Is it a good idea to buy an old cooler?

This one sells for 30$ while 212 sells 80-100$

U12 is around 100$ too

[craggy thicket]

Banned crackheadcocaine#0420 (Case #165727) (user notified with a direct message)

[arctic yarrow]

REKT

[latent drum]

Lmao

[arctic yarrow]

What CPU are you gonna use it on? That looks like a decent cooler, but I'd probably stick another fan on the other end.

Have one push and another pull

[latent drum]

11700

I should probably change the fans

These are small and ancient

[arctic yarrow]

Hmm, I don't think you'll have any OC headroom, but at $30 it's probably worth the risk.

[latent drum]

Well its the non OC model

Just 150W

[arctic yarrow]

150w tho.... hmm

can you send me the link to that item?

[latent drum]

Its a local store

The cooler it self is Cooler master 612 PMW

[arctic yarrow]

Hmm, the cooler master 412 has less cooling capacity and is able to cool down a 9900k OC'd, and that requires more power than a 11700. I think you should be fine.

[latent drum]

Ya , i think fin count is a bit low but the power of 6 heat pipes

[twin badger]

CCP spyware moment

[brave field]

Udemy courses, are the certificates they give worth putting on a resume? I'm getting sent lots of free codes but aren't sure if they're worth investing the time into.

[lilac heath]

Coursera is better imo

[brave field]

@lilac heath thanks friend

Are their certificate things taken slightly more seriously?

[lilac heath]

Yea
In Coursera u are gonna get a proper certificate from University unlike Udemy which is just a course

It also depends upon the course

I did my Corporate Finance course from Wharton University on Coursera and its certificate is valuable

[brave field]

ooooooooooooh

Any of those useful ones free? so far?

[lilac heath]

It was paid but i applied for Financial aid and got it for free

[brave field]

tasty

thanks, I'm getting in on that

[cold elbow]

installed win 11 on an old laptop and Nvidia does not want to install by windows update

[plucky raft]

🎷🐛

[strong saffron]

Coursera also has professional certs from places like Google which they recognise, and even actual degrees from universities

[latent drum]

Found this one for 42$

[jovial tide]

Don't let that put you off, Windows 10 is more than fine. It's probably better than Windows 11 for the most part right now

[plucky raft]

win 10 better

[arctic yarrow]

Yeah, I don't like windows 11 right now. Too many bugs at the moment.

[fervent granite]

you can always downgrade the thing

probably should as soon as you get it tbh, they like to load those pc's up with bloatware

[arctic yarrow]

pc with a 3060 at 699? That's a steal rn.

oh ok, that's about typical then

[latent drum]

I got my 3060 ti for 720$

[jovial tide]

Then that's probably the best place to start, a job. Or if you're a kid just wait until christmases, birthdays, etc where you get money as a present

[analog wharf]

Windows 11 22h2 is good but windows 10 is better

[jovial tide]

What's this?

Oh it's your friend's channel, you shouldn't really advertise that here

[versed dove]

where do i get the node.js 16 from?

[jovial tide]

You tried google?

Should be one of the first results

[versed dove]

well i got it

i just have this error

NOTE! Issues with configuration:

• Missing required option: "oken"

but my token is there

[jovial tide]

are you trying to host the modmail bot that was linked by jake?

[versed dove]

yes

[jovial tide]

and what are you trying to host it on

[versed dove]

local atm

just need to see if it works

[jovial tide]

Try uninstalling nodejs and installing ver 17.9.1 https://nodejs.org/en/download/releases/

that's the version it installs when I try to host it

[cold elbow]

Started the laptop today and the driver is installed? 💀

Nvm black screen after waking up from sleep

Win 11 shit

[lilac heath]

💀

[strong saffron]

Thank you 🙏

[fickle finch]

html?

[tranquil jackal]

Help lol

Meant to be fun but frustrating cause I forgot maths

[pliant lynx]

calculator moment

[latent drum]

What is this? 5th grade

[jovial tide]

dude in 5th grade I had like only addition and subtraction and division and multiplication and maybe like distances (km and etc) and some more that idk

[latent drum]

You didnt take powers in 5-6th grade?

[lost fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QzHwbN5MBw

[brave field]

bclk again? Something new?

[lost fossil]

not new but 5+ ghz from just bclk is not something that i've seen before

[brave field]

oh wtf

and not messing up the rest of the system?!

[lost fossil]

and now msi is coming out with a b660 board for this purpose specifically

like

b660 and not z690

[lost fossil]

apparently so

[hexed crystal]

ITS ALIIIIVE

[civic cloud]

Oh shit oh fuck

[jovial tide]

[hexed crystal]

and my friend has already begun with the bullshit

this is so cool

[cold elbow]

That's a long a prefix

[rapid lake]

Yeah it’s fun when you first get a discord bot running

[last drum]

what does it mean when my laptops charging indicator blinks when i plug it in but doesnt charge

[cold elbow]

you might have to check your specific manufacture

[last drum]

[hexed crystal]

yeah i could probably make it better

[twin badger]

Probably a broken charging port

[fallow forge]

does anyone know a program to see whats happening with your pc thats shows more than task manager?

the issues ive been having are slowly getting worse

the freezing and audio cracking still happens

But now it even switches the audio from my headphones to my monitor speakers

and i have no clue what causes it

[cold elbow]

my software of choice to check all sensors is HWinfo

i would suggest you to keep task manger opened on performance tab and keep watching your hdds/ssds

[fallow forge]

i did that and it showed nothing on any of my drives or gpu/cpu

i also did a memory diagnosis which didnt show anything either

[cold elbow]

what about events viewer

[fallow forge]

dont know what that is

[cold elbow]

you wanna be there

it might show you something like warning or error

and it might be helpful

[fallow forge]

ill keep it open and see if it happens again

[cold elbow]

you dont have to

you can check it anytime

[fallow forge]

yeah ik but if it happens and something pops i can see it right away

[cold elbow]

it logs it with time so

[fervent granite]

process hacker?

[fallow forge]

Probably not

[latent drum]

I need humbly ask everyone to not buy intel cpus ever

Until they change their shit tactics

[brave field]

which tactic do you dislike?

People in the "buy the best price-to-performance product that suits your needs" camp are eating right now

[latent drum]

Everything

Their mobos are a disaster

And SA , IO lock on 12th gen

Finding mobos with same chipsets but with specific future sets are terrible

[brave field]

fair enough

sucks there's still no competition in the market

[latent drum]

There is

I would not recommend anyone buys 5000 series rn

[brave field]

Its a duopoly, not really competition imo

[latent drum]

GPUs , yes

CPUs not very much

[brave field]

VIA is not viable, ARM on desktop is being handled exclusively by specialists, there's no sort of "open market," I mean

[latent drum]

Intel made 300$ i7 for a reason

[brave field]

PPC is dead entirely. SPARC is dead. Even with ARM, software is not there.

Your realistic options are predatory AMD or predatory Intel, each taking turns when they want to be predators

[latent drum]

From now on , iam not buying a mew intel platform till they unlock all their CPUs officially

[latent drum]

Well a bad thing is still better than the worst thing

AMD just raises prices mostly

Intel just fucking butcher the entire lineup

[brave field]

mmmmmmmmmmmmhyes

You personally solve this by not buying then, fair. Do you think there's any sort of hope for a long-term market-wide solution?

[latent drum]

Eh

[brave field]

Government or a third-party regulation? More competitors? Some sort of something something standard and agreement made between AMD and Intel themselves?

[latent drum]

X86 is pretty much locked more than Nvidia drivers

You dont expect intel and AMD to say yeah , here take the most valuable architecture in the entire world to beat us

[craggy thicket]

Banned StrawHatDavid#9294 (Case #166093) (user notified with a direct message)

[lost fossil]

L

[plucky raft]

L

[hexed crystal]

jesus we're all gonna be replaced

[lost fossil]

does it have access to stackoverflow