tech-coding-math

[jovial tide]

500 pounds is a 5600G build without GPU so I guess price is fine

[vernal bloom]

Wb this @jovial tide

1080p

[jovial tide]

that's the regular decent build that can game but not much

[vernal bloom]

Mainly for gta rp forza 5 and warzone

[jovial tide]

the 1650 is probably better for those, but not enough either

you expect way too much from a 500-600pound PC bruh

[vernal bloom]

Not really as long as of plays nicely am good

[brave field]

too much extra money spent on RGB

You save a bit over 70 pounds getting normal components over the RGB ones

[vernal bloom]

Like ?

[brave field]

Ram: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/Team-Group-Vulcan-Z-T-Force-16GB-2x8GB-DDR4-PC4-25600C16-3200MHz-Dual-Channel-Kit-Grey-MY-0AK-TG.html

You can grab the same PSU minus 100W (still more than enough for this system) for half that price at Scan https://www.scan.co.uk/products/550w-corsair-cx550m-80-plus-bronze-hybrid-modular-sli-crossfire-single-rail-458a-plus12v-1x120mm-fan

[vernal bloom]

But this build has pass this right? CPU Intel Core i5 3470 @ 3.2GHz / AMD X8 FX-8350 @ 4GHz
GPU NVIDIA GTX 660 2GB / AMD HD 7870 2GB
RAM 16GB
HDD 72GB + 8GB

[kindred temple]

Stop showing FiveM's spec requirement.

Theyre GTA's and theyre very underspec'd.

[vernal bloom]

🤔

[robust ruin]

72?!

[vernal bloom]

Im planning to up the gpu to gtx 3060 in a year or so

[robust ruin]

Dont

3060 is good but you prolly need a better cpu to avoid bottlenecking IIRC

[vernal bloom]

$hit

[brave field]

There is no GTX 3060 but swapping the parts to those links if you keep the same plan won't change anything

Also

RTX 3060 with a 5600g is not an issue at all, if anything the 3060 is the one holding things back

[vernal bloom]

Am talking about the power

[brave field]

yes

[vernal bloom]

-100

Wont be a problem

[brave field]

yes

[vernal bloom]

Ok

So i should go with this build

[brave field]

Its probably not going to satisfy you

and it definitely won't run games as well as the 1650 one would
but you could

[vernal bloom]

Why that

[jovial tide]

FiveM, specially RP servers are horrible

[kindred temple]

[jovial tide]

Most of those servers are using inefficient scripts on top of FiveM

[kindred temple]

Subjective™️

[jovial tide]

Claire you don't know what you're talking about then

[kindred temple]

Be toxic to me again UwU

[jovial tide]

:))

[brave field]

I'm going to try to run a 2640 V3 under an Intel stock cooler

[kindred temple]

Imo overusage of instancing is the issue of a lot of perf degradation on FiveM servers

[jovial tide]

Perf degradation, is everybody's fault there

[kindred temple]

Also spaghetti integration due to the lack of proper modding API

[jovial tide]

FiveM makes soemthing, main dev malds hard, they say fk it lets make it minimal

Major server owners say dude where is my feature for the new GTA update? why is the old feature not working and so on.

They end up writing crappy scripts to make it work around the main issue, and cycle repeats. also having 100 scripts running doesn't help.

[vernal bloom]

What should i swap this with

Its going to be my first time building it and am not trying to mess up

[vernal bloom]

The build is from this vid. https://youtu.be/_TsNn7Yk06A

[kindred temple]

[ionic thistle]

[kindred temple]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mx7gYg

@vernal bloom

Just need an extra 300$ for a 3060, or 200$ ish for 1660 super

Or Quadro P2000

[lilac heath]

1660🚮

[brave field]

The 79% of Steam users on the hardware survey with GPUs much weaker than a 1660 would like a word

[kindred temple]

[lilac heath]

Well 1660 costs 700$ where i live so..

*super

And rx 6600's cost is also around 700-750$

[lilac heath]

GTX 1060 i think

[latent drum]

you sure about that?

doubt

steam survey say around approximately 22.65% have RTX Nvidia GPU

and all RTX are stronger than 1660

thats without counting AMD in or other nvidia cards that are better than a 1660

people seem to really love the new RX 6000 series cards

[brave field]

reeeee stop updating

give me my mid 2020 stats back!

[lilac heath]

[latent drum]

there are more people than have intel GPU than AMD

nvm no

just on the leader board

also this is changing fast

with core I3 becoming 8 cores and I5 becoming 14 i see that changing fast

[lost fossil]

bro i only have 1 cpu and these guys have 4 6 and 8

_ _

speed

man

seeing all the internet hardware experts get hurt when they see an aio with the pump up makes me cringe

i'm dead certain they used to do the exact same thing up until central nexus hub gamers posted a video about it

now suddenly it's a sin to mount aios like that

the amd fury x that i bought in 2015 and since then sold to friend has been running in a pump-above-res scenario for 6 years perfectly fine

[cold elbow]

I don't think the experts didnt know about it until gamernexus did
It used to be a known fact amount the experts but the problem was with the mainstream audience that pretends to be experts.
The experts might have missed on mounting the rad on the front with pipes also up which usually makes extra noise.

[lost fossil]

truth but there are experts and then there are internet experts

[civic cloud]

youre my fav mainstream expert @lost fossil

[civic cloud]

no

[cold elbow]

Hi gus

[civic cloud]

@cold elbow guten Tag

[jagged lark]

💀 I regret buying a ps5

Ps4 now works!!

Everything was fine, just needed to use the official PlayStation usb cable to plug into controller

At least ps4 has the decency to tell you if a games a demo, beta or full version

[cold elbow]

Ps users

[brave field]

Alternate youtube frontends with controller support, where can I find a list?

Leanback is gone. Kodi is gone

[lost fossil]

official cable what

[brave field]

eeeew, spending money

[analog wharf]

currently downloading the windows 11 iso to test on a vm

[brave field]

Nice

What hypervisor do you use?

[analog wharf]

lol i use vmware if thats what u mean

[brave field]

Nice, nice

[fresh sparrow]

bruuh

[analog wharf]

sure microsoft

[lost fossil]

i think there was a tool to patch tpm and secure boot requirements out of the w11 image

[analog wharf]

im just gonna manual install windows 11 on my vm lol

[lost fossil]

windows

why is some stuff in

[lost fossil]

things that you simply can't make up

[analog wharf]

lol

[brave field]

manual install in cmd, crispy

Thought there was some sort of install environment registry key people were setting to get around TPM2 before?

[analog wharf]

don't know if it still works

i know that manual install and replacing one of the dlls with the windows 10 one works though

[brave field]

I wonder which feature update will start to actually use TPM

It still makes no visible, noticeable difference in use, like in the credential manager or anything. Maybe it is used rarely but remains entirely unrecorded and undocumented?

[analog wharf]

lol its almost finished applying the image

[lost fossil]

[analog wharf]

lol now im just editing the registry

time to reboot

yes im gonna wait for the windows module installer

[jovial tide]

true

like Claire and Melon are both internet experts xd

[civic cloud]

🔥

[analog wharf]

ok lol imma install vmware tools now

i finally got the oobe skip just right

[jovial tide]

Guys any thoughts* on Matrix Awakens?

[civic cloud]

no thoughts, head empty

[jovial tide]

Demo came to xbox x and ps5 unannounced

[lost fossil]

get 68% off wowee great deal

why do youtubers still accept kove sponsorships

[cold elbow]

cus

money

[jovial tide]

JBL Boom Box 2

Wayyy better

[fervent granite]

Secure Enclave > tpm

[restive totem]

Heyo

Anyone know which processor is better i5 10 600k or i5 11500 ?

tag me

[brave field]

@restive totem They're pretty similar at stock speeds.
The 10600k is slightly faster when overclocked, and the 11500 cannot be overclocked. The best for the money is likely the 10400 or 10400F, which is almost always much cheaper than the other two

[vernal bloom]

@jovial tide what do u think about this now https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-it-10100f-4-3ghz-quad-core-gtx-1650-4gb-pc-for-gaming.html?config=15372-177390,15375-177405,15378-177534,15381-177546,15384-177591,15387-177603,15390-177654,15393-177666,15396-177690,15399-177696,15426-177864,17626-197854

[jovial tide]

Hi Draco

[vernal bloom]

Sup

[jovial tide]

I'll tell what I told you before, add 200 pounds

[vernal bloom]

Ok

[jovial tide]

Get 10400F + something for 600-700

ADMI's good btw

[vernal bloom]

But cant build any pc for now till next yr between summer

[jovial tide]

Idk it's your choice

[vernal bloom]

Got too many exams

[jovial tide]

I hope prices don't go up much next summer, but if you want a good PC to do tasks and play games with, minimum 10400F cpu + some graphics card (this one doesn't matter much)

ADMI always has good offers

[vernal bloom]

Alright cool

[restive totem]

@brave field should I go for the 10400/F then?

[brave field]

If its much cheaper, and you haven't centered the rest of your PC around overclocking the 10600k, yes

[vernal bloom]

10400f+ gtx 1650 buif wdyt @jovial tide

[jovial tide]

10400F is good for now

Also, I dont understand wdyt

Words are made to be written :/

[restive totem]

@brave field 10400 is a lot cheaper than the 10600k and 11500

Im going for it then

[jagged lark]

Is it possible to make a bot on a smaller scale of yag and mee6 in c++?

I wanna make one but don't want to learn JavaScript and c++ same time

[brave field]

yes, possible

You'll probably be using D++ for it if you don't make your own library, I think Sleepy is dead

[jagged lark]

I'll likely use my own library but maybe certain features from d++

But the bot's mainly going to be used for hosting events, notifications, giving roles and level systems (yes i could use one available but wanna gain experience in c++ so writing my own)

[vernal bloom]

I meant what do you think

[latent drum]

you sure?

the 11400 last i checked was faster than the 10600K

and it gets even faster when power unlocked

[brave field]

GamersNexus shows a match between stock 11400 and stock 10600k, with the 10600k having a slight lead in some games

HWUB's benches show a tiny 1-3% advantage to the 11400

[latent drum]

is it unlocked even or stock?

11th gen i5 are faster than 10th gen

[brave field]

all benches at stock, 11th gen stock vs 10th gen-K stock

[latent drum]

ik , no shit

but the good thing about 11th gen i5 you can tell them you can suck 125w if you want
and they will boost to hell

[brave field]

interesting

[latent drum]

i tried it on 10th gen

doesnt work

[brave field]

I do wonder specifics on "10400 is a lot cheaper than the 10600k and 11500, Im going for it then"

is the power limit increase performance boost worthwhile enough to pay something like $30 more for an 11th gen over the 10400F?

[latent drum]

listen

they are I5

whatever GPU you are pairing on them they wont bottleneck

iam sure all of them can handle like a 3070

unless you are pairing a 3080 on 10400 , you should be good

[brave field]

I...

[latent drum]

the performance difference is like 10% from top to buttom

also if you buying an I5 there are alot of other stuff you need to worry about

like you waiting 2 days and 3 nights for the match to load because of your 5400RPM 64mb cache HDD

[kindred temple]

Not at all.

[brave field]

I had a feeling it was nowhere near close enough to be worth money

but I haven't been exposed to the numbers

[kindred temple]

Also, 3080 on a 5600x is easy, and imho the perfect combination for 1440p

[latent drum]

we talking cheap

like sub 200$ cheap

they can still handle most GPUs on market

i mean they are 12 threaded 4ghz+ CPUs

and if you getting an I5 probably you are topping like a 3060 - TI

[kindred temple]

With IPC only a neck above 3000 series AMD

Also, youre assuming 1080p like its the only res that matter.

[latent drum]

no

[kindred temple]

1440p has gone low in price.

[latent drum]

i know

i wasnt assuming 1080p

its very hard to get bottlenecked on CPU

[kindred temple]

Then you should realize 1440p is still very GPU bounded.

Get the best GPU you can for the budget.

[latent drum]

i did say that

3080 will bottleneck I5

there are other stuff than GPU rendering a cpu needs to do to catch up

[warm panther]

hi 👋

[brave field]

accessing an API through a public react/vue site in a container without forwarding the backend/API's ports publicly, does that exist, and if so, how?

[warm panther]

Yeah it is

[brave field]

been researching this but its a bit confusing. Better context:
FastAPI sits in a docker container on the same docker network as the frontend stuff
Frontend container is forwarded to the public, each site contains .js with fetch("api url here") in it
SPA works as intended without the API container ever being port forwarded or accessible at all to the world

[warm panther]

yeah

so

In your docker-compose you would just expose the ports you want publicly and then for the rest I believe you can just use the container name as the baseurl and it works just fine. So lets say you have a postgres container you named postgres and you are connecting to it, you would just do postgres as the url.

Let me know if that works because I believe you can do that.

[brave field]

gah I wish I had my setup ready

I recall last time, the fetch request was being made from the client/browser, though, so it accessing and retrieving data from the non-forwarded API container was impossible

[warm panther]

so the user is making requests to the api?

not the js site or whatever you have.

[brave field]

The JS site is supposed to be making the requests, but when the user has the html file loaded on their end and click the refresh button, the browser console has an error, stating it can't connect to the API container

[warm panther]

hmm is there anyway you can give me this error?

Or like was there a specific status code with it?

[brave field]

Just get a 404 error

the user's web browser is trying to connect to the API container, instead of connecting back to the web server, and the web server connecting to the API container

hole on, I'm going to try to draw a diagram (which probably won't be useful, sorry)

@warm panther

Here's what happens

web browser sees fetch request and tries to talk straight to the API container

[warm panther]

sorry

I was dealing with a mm thread

[brave field]

what I'm looking for is for the web browser to talk to nginx, and then nginx send that request to uvicorn
no need to apologize :)
I'm grateful for your help

[warm panther]

oh fuck I have no clue with nginx

hmmm

[brave field]

Not nginx specifically, just anything that serves the actual webpages, I mean. Apache, traefik, npm serve, etc.

comparing it to a discord bot, you send commands, the bot grabs things from the api container, the one using the commands can't actually ping or use cUrl on the container, everything is tasty

[warm panther]

yeah I get that part

anyway you can ping that container?

Or just like send a raw request to it

without the site

[brave field]

The goal is to make it so I cannot ping the API container without the site(unless I ssh into the host or another container in the network), because its ports are closed.

[warm panther]

oh yeah fuck

yeah no I totally forgot about that

so you have had success with exposing the internal api ports?

[brave field]

Yes, the client's web browser directly pings the API container

[warm panther]

ok good so we know 100 percent it's an issue with that

Ummm can you try it with gunicorn?

as uvicorn isn't really what you are supposed to use in prod apparently plus I just wanna see if that fixes anything.

well whenever you can as I know you said you don't have your setup.

[brave field]

I will definitely try, should be able to tomorrow
Leads into my other question, which shouldn't require me to get everything set up again

Vscode's remote extensions, is there a trivial way to develop something remotely with the vscode server, remove the vscode parts from the container, and have a slim, functioning container left over?

my current workflow (if I move to vscode server, what I currently do now with automated scp and ssh commands is a nightmare) is something along the lines of:
-develop and test in one container with the remote server
-remove the source code from the vscode container so I can git push or copy it to a folder on the host
-make a completely new container for running just the source code without the vscode stuff in there with docker build every time
and it feels there's a 2000x simpler way to do that all

[warm panther]

do you use dockerfiles?

[brave field]

yes

[warm panther]

ok, so what sane people do is have some type of github deployment setup so that whenever you push changes to github you don't need to do anything it just deploys it to the server. Then you would just have some sort of test server that you don't really give a shit about that you use for testing.

[brave field]

That sounds very very nice, thanks 😃

[warm panther]

don't know much about it but I am pretty sure it's just some type of yaml config for the github depoloyment stuff

usually just have other ppl set it up for me

[brave field]

ah
e: Found it, tasks.json! I can make ssh, scp, test, build, and deploy commands, and string them together until I have an actual AWS/GCP server, github actions, or whatever else

[latent drum]

Guys how android just suck

[warm panther]

it doesn't?

[latent drum]

Been thinking about it

Android sucks as an OS

[warm panther]

yeah but why

like do you use it?

[brave field]

Android 11 and later suck due to scoped storage and removal of customization options, why does it suck to you?

[latent drum]

Iam talking technical

Like ram mangment

Android probably have the worst ram management of man kind

[brave field]

Between Marshmallow and Pie they claim to have switched from "kill no background processes" to an almost ios-like "kill everything" ram management for AOSP roms(but carriers can still override this; LG did for my device), did that not actually take place?
Idling at 75% ram used sucks, but it does clear pretty quickly when something needs to use it

[latent drum]

I don't know

But battery life still suck on android too

For apple users what is a power bank is our phone battery yet this..

[ionic thistle]

Fr?

Mine could pretty much lasts the whole day

[latent drum]

It probably will but compared to apple

Also idle

Apple is very good at idle
You can leave your phone for alot of time and it won't run out

There is a lot of shit going on in the android market

Android use the half ass UFS storage to save battery life while IOS uses full blown NVMe

[vast nimbus]

I like math. We can chat about it while helping each other get plat trophy on ps4 :)

[ionic thistle]

My tablet was left idle for 1 week without touching and it was from 100 to 42 :kek:

It depends on the phone and all imo

[latent drum]

Also looking around it doesn't make since anymore

[latent drum]

IMO the only real flagship maker for android have always been samsung

[ionic thistle]

Don't apple use Samsung's stuff in iPhones?

[latent drum]

Yet it sucks
Even at like 900$ Price point android phones been lacking too much recently

[ionic thistle]

I think I saw it on a YouTube channel that "fixes" iphones

[latent drum]

Minimal

Like screens and ram

Sucks to see 1000+$ gets fucked by 800$ iphones

[ionic thistle]

Ngl all I need in a phone is a good camera and storage

Since I only watch YouTube and use instagram

And sometimes whatsapp

[latent drum]

Mic quality , battery life , CPU and GPU performance , build quality , camera quality all goes to iPhone

Samsung have like what
Best screens and speaker's

Been considering switching

[ionic thistle]

It depends on the model tbh

[latent drum]

Not really no

Because all of them

Use the same shit

Like at these 14 android makers have the same CPU , gpu , ram , charging and battery

Because its made for them

Just big Samsung and Qualcomm selling the same parts to all of them

[ionic thistle]

Oh... Got it

[latent drum]

Also apple
Up to something faster
Google android 11: fuck you
12: we have added coloring that 8 yo launchers got it

[fervent granite]

Yeah but so what?

They’re in pretty much everything these days like fridges, cameras, tv’s, ssd’s, etc

[unreal iron]

Even folding is $1000 now

I mean it's JUST the flip but

The fold 2 is even 900 now but I wouldn't risk it without insurance

[fervent granite]

I still don't see the point in foldable phones, it's not like they're more powerful than phones at their price points

[unreal iron]

The point is storage

My fold 2 offers 2x the screen

The Flip offers normal xl phone in half the height

[lilac fable]

I’m not getting a windows key until maybe Christmas

Can I play games without it I’m stuck on the bios

[arctic yarrow]

you can install windows without a product key, and you can play games. You will, however, have a permanent notification saying you need to activate windows, and you can't customize.

[fervent granite]

Or you can just use a simple script to bypass the need for a key @lilac fable

[civic cloud]

@lilac fable dummy

[arctic yarrow]

Being ignorant about something isn't stupidity.

[civic cloud]

It's fine we're friends 🤝

[arctic yarrow]

Understandable.

[jovial tide]

So I got a g435 headset today and the sound quality is great but when I go in a discord call the quality of everything else sounds like it's coming from a trash can. Anyone know how to fix this

[cold elbow]

First thing i usually do is removed the realtek trash software and let window carry the sound driver

[jovial tide]

Ok I'll try that

[civic cloud]

how does one do that

[jovial tide]

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/remove-realtek-audio-driver-permanently/ffb38017-df71-430e-8c2c-09940642a095

I'm just gonna do what this says tomorrow

[cold elbow]

U go to add remove applications
Find realtek software and uninstall it
After that restart

[civic cloud]

let me guess, audio drivers

[cold elbow]

Well u dont have the software

So you good

[civic cloud]

:D

oki

[raw forge]

avoiding the notification can get you in trouble, figure it should be said so we all know this talk is 'research'

also, M$ has legit VMs you can download and run games in when the host environment is properly setup, for example on linux

vmware player/workstation works best when running windows on Linux, make sure to have you gcard drivers setup and such

full screen will eliminate any delays because vmware will hand over the whole display to winders

oh and M$

Crowdstrike is right about that treacherous company

[civic cloud]

Imagine going through the struggle of setting up Linux and a VM instead of paying like 20 bucks for a license lmao

Cory just wants to game a lil, not become a Linux tryhard

[unreal iron]

Spens 10 minutes getting console to work to install literally anything

[civic cloud]

you really think it will only be 10 minutes when he struggles to install windows? lol

the average person really does not want to fuck around with linux

[fervent granite]

Too bad diehard Linux users don’t understand that

[blissful lodge]

lol

[brave field]

They have a point at times though

Nobody wants to learn something foreign, but Linux is just much simpler to use often

[unreal iron]

@brave field I had a moment of weakness and bought some K240s

Now I can't make car payment

But it's ok they will see me through it

[brave field]

k240s

Are those the headphones from before?

[unreal iron]

I got the Samsons that look like them

And now a pair of 240s proper

[civic cloud]

for gaming? 🤨

[brave field]

Loads simpler for install/setup/daily use. Running online games successfully without anticheat conflict? Questionable, in the event Lutris or Proton aren't able to handle things

Definitely not the answer in this situation, where the only thing holding you back is a chance at an annoying watermark, but its not like its anywhere near as challenging as portrayed.

[vernal bloom]

What do u guys think

[brave field]

Capable system for many things, price?

[vernal bloom]

£625

[vernal bloom]

What aaa title can i expect from this @brave field

[brave field]

All of them will work to some degree

This isn't worth the money imo, its a bit too close to i5 + 3060 systems

[vernal bloom]

So what should i get

[brave field]

Check local dealsites

I think buildapcsalesuk isn't dead anymore, they might have what you're looking for

[fervent granite]

How though? I mean sure you could get a hand-holding distro but even still it takes a while to get everything setup

[vernal bloom]

There discord is nobody is really there tbh

[daring sparrow]

@jovial tide what was laptop again

[jovial tide]

Dude you msg me after 3 months asking that

Idk the exact model, go look for Lenovo Legion, HP Omen, and Alienware X15

[vernal bloom]

@jovial tide what do u think i found it intel 10400

[jovial tide]

:/

[daring sparrow]

Bro how do you forget . Not my fault that I'm dumb

[jovial tide]

Which part says 10400 in that?

I'm not in a good mood today sorry for flaming

[daring sparrow]

It's nothing

I remember the lenovo tho

[jovial tide]

That's the past let's find a new one, pm me

[vernal bloom]

Nvm its 10100

[jovial tide]

Yeah that's why I was getting angry

Like you already talked about i3 gen 10 + 1650

[vernal bloom]

I found some that has it but they got 8 gb or ram

[jovial tide]

how much?

[jovial tide]

that's ok'ish

[vernal bloom]

But see

[jovial tide]

here some of my finds, you should ask Cookie for more info

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-it-seven-9400f-4.1ghz-six-core-gtx-1650-super-4gb-pc-for-gaming.html

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-raider-2600x-six-core-4.2ghz-radeon-rx-580-4gb-desktop-pc-for-gaming.html

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-viper-intel-i5-9400f-six-core-gtx-1660-super-6gb-windows-10-flight-simulator-gaming-pc.html

I think best choice is between 1660 Super (bottom one) and second one

[vernal bloom]

They all 8 gb ram

[jovial tide]

Buy extra ram later

[vernal bloom]

This

[jovial tide]

I this it's alright

[vernal bloom]

Rx 580 ?

[jovial tide]

In AWD you can change ram specs and add ram

They are all close

1660Super performs better for gaming though

[vernal bloom]

Ill go for this

What aaa title can i play and what fps

[jovial tide]

That's just dumb

1660 super's way better, for games it's either 1660super or rx580; besides those 2 extra VRAM GBs will allow you to play more games, 4GB VRAM's way too low

[vernal bloom]

So this one ?

[jovial tide]

Nope

This one -> https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-viper-intel-i5-9400f-six-core-gtx-1660-super-6gb-windows-10-flight-simulator-gaming-pc.html

[vernal bloom]

My monitor is 60hz max so ?

[unreal iron]

When did cpus stop having pins?

And the pins were on the mobo

[brave field]

1997, I think

[unreal iron]

Damn

I have a cpu somewhere that still has pins

[brave field]

That should be around the time of the first LGA sockets. BGA and PGA sockets are still in use though

All AMD from FX to Ryzen CPUs have pins, for example. One socket type isn't a successor to the other

[unreal iron]

It's an old cpu but I didn't know how old

[brave field]

What does the text on top say, if there's something printed there?

[unreal iron]

I lost it

But I've wondered how old it really was

[brave field]

AMD FM2+ or AM3, maybe. Might still have a few uses if you can find it.

[jovial tide]

@brave field Are you available? Something really urgent just came up and I need help

[brave field]

I guess

whappen?

[jovial tide]

So to start, I was playing a game with some friends yesterday and my pc randomly shut off and restarted. It happened again a bit afterward. Then today I just now had it happen again. I checked the log and it gave me this

Im worried something in my PC is causing this. I'm praying it's not the PSU

[brave field]

driver crash should be software 8/10 times

but shutting off, was it instant, delayed a bit, did it say shutting down at all, did your motherboard and all other parts immediately just cut out?

[jovial tide]

It all just abruptly shut off then instantly rebooted without me doing anything at all

[brave field]

interesting

The past two times, did it happen with the same software open, while doing the same thing?

Background programs too

Is it always during load?

[jovial tide]

Yesterday it was on a game. Today it was while on a different game

But all three happening while in-game

[brave field]

There is a chance its your power supply shutting itself off after not being able to give enough power to your GPU (or your CPU, boosting), but those CRITICALs in event viewer shouldn't be related, even those they cause BSODs often

try to isolate the issue

run a GPU stress test and a CPU stress test and see if those cause it

[jovial tide]

These are the 3 criticals related to the outages

[brave field]

if it can stay on with the GPU running at 100%, and separately, the CPU at 100%, and then both in a non-game scenario, its likely not the PSU failing

[jovial tide]

I do have an overclock Should I go back to default settings and try that?

[brave field]

oh yes

before anything else, yes

[jovial tide]

So I just ran both a CPU and GPU test at the same time and nothing happened (This was after I changed my oc settings to default)

[brave field]

not out of trouble yet but its a very good start

sometimes an overclock can feel stable for synthetic loads and then cause pain when you go for your actual daily tasks

[jovial tide]

Should I try and do what I normally do for a bit and see how it holds up?

[brave field]

yes, change nothing but your oc settings and use the PC as normal

[jovial tide]

Alright

[brave field]

I have to be the dumbest person on the planet

[kindred temple]

No, thats me

[sour marsh]

[marsh basin]

Ig this would fall under tech but, let’s say im wanting a “Tech Support” role for my server right. Would i have to give them admin perms for them not to run into perm road blocks? Not really wanting to give too many ppl that power

role “responsibilities” would include: Adding bots (requested ones only), making embedded messages, examining any server issues (very broad ik) & just general stuff that my smol brain can’t do because I’m not the most tech savvy person when it comes to discord

[strong saffron]

is the "add bots" part really necessary? that requires admin but the others don't

[jovial tide]

@jovial tide whats your psu power?

500-600?

i would recommend like 700+ most prob 800

[lilac heath]

Could be due to overclocking the GPU aswell

[charred arrow]

Hey, what bitcoin wallet should I use for a shop? (Im totally new in cryptocurrencies)

[lost fossil]

we don't do that here

[cold elbow]

Crypto is a scam

Unless you are a criminal, then u gonna love it.

[civic cloud]

such bad boi

[low dust]

How is crypto a scam did you not invest right?

[jovial tide]

Crypto is a scam to some extent, because it's easily and highly manipulated

You have these sudden huge drops and rises that make analysis very difficult

[brave field]

@charred arrow Software or hardware wallet?

[charred arrow]

Software

[vernal bloom]

When u look at this vid can you tell or guess what type of specs does the pc have ?

[brave field]

@charred arrow Use the official one, Bitcoin Core, available on the project's website

note that it sucks up your storage space and isn't the easiest to use though. If you need something lighter weight, try Electrum

[vernal bloom]

When u look at this vid can you tell or guess what type of specs does the pc have ?

[brave field]

looks like some CPU made from the past 10 years with a GPU from the past 8
can't tell anything else

[charred arrow]

Someone recommended me something called exodus, what do you think about that?

[brave field]

Never heard of it. It has a decent size community, but its company-made and closed source (with super flawed reasoning on why its closed source, yuck). Personally wouldn't trust, even though people have been using it for 4 years without issue.

[verbal karma]

how can i apply the discord snowsmas emojis and stickers

[brave field]

Image files, so head to server settings->emoji/stickers->click "Upload" on the right @verbal karma

[verbal karma]

on my server?

[brave field]

yes

[vernal bloom]

Im trying to find a pre built that has minimum this graphics or higher for £600 - $800 anyone help ?

[brave field]

The PCs you're looking for are pretty much the exact same as what you're been looking for the past 3-4 times

something in the range of i5 10400 with a 1660 Super or 1660 ti

just have to be in the right place at the right time, since stock/price issues are still awful

[vernal bloom]

Yeah

[lost fossil]

so i have issues with gpu and some ppl on the internet say that the power supply could be bad

so i launch the dumbest software known to man just to see if the power supply is bad

that's a lot of w

[civic cloud]

yes

272

:D

[lost fossil]

that's even more w

as in

[civic cloud]

yis

332W

[lost fossil]

cookie

[brave field]

Is your PSU rated for that?

[lost fossil]

it's a 1kw gold evga

from 6 years ago

[brave field]

How many w per 12v rail?

[lost fossil]

i think it's a single rail because multi rail is marketing bs

[jovial tide]

700

I personally don't think it's my PSU at all

[vernal bloom]

Wait can u use a controller for gta on pc ?

[lost fossil]

of course

[vernal bloom]

Ok cool

Both ps5 and xbox

[lost fossil]

most of the time you have to use an software to emulate an x360 controller

[civic cloud]

No? You can just plug the Xbox controllers in

[lost fossil]

yes but i have no experience with that because i'm ps race

i mean i'm dual race

never had an eggbox unfortunately

[civic cloud]

I had a PS3 and bought a 360 controller for PC because i cba with the emulator software

I think windows supports PS4/PS5 controllers by now

[lost fossil]

it does but most pc games don't

[vernal bloom]

I have ps5 controller so do i need to get xbox controller ?

[lost fossil]

no

[vernal bloom]

Ok

[lost fossil]

you can use ds4windows to emulate an x360 controller

[vernal bloom]

Bruh

U confusing me now

U said no but now ur saying you can use ds4windows to emulate an x360 controller ?

[lost fossil]

you don't need to get an eggbox controller

you get a software and it emulates an eggbox controller

so you can use your ds5 on pc without any compatibility issues

[brave field]

Steam Input is amazing for this

[lost fossil]

steam controller is good but it doesn't work if you tab out

i use this thing

[civic cloud]

sus

[vernal bloom]

Oh ok

Lol i was planning to get a gaming pc and xbox SX so i can play forza 5 but i saw like nah i can do that on pc so i got ps5 now am struggling to find a good gaming pc for the past 5 months

[jovial tide]

HTID it's not just marketing bs

When OCP works it does wonders, both for the better and worse

[lost fossil]

maybe it used to be marketing bs

[jovial tide]

See, you have overcurrent protection with multi rail

It can hinder the performance of your card at times, but it can also save it from damaging itself

HX1000 has both

[brave field]

999W on 12v, you should be fine. what is GPU issue?

[lost fossil]

windows suddenly reboots outta nowhere as if i pressed the reset button

a whole lotta people on the internet have this issue with amd

some fixes work for some people, some work for other people

[brave field]

anything in event viewer other than unexpected power loss?

I had the same thing previously and it was AMD's awful drivers
Messed things up so badly there was no BSoD

[lost fossil]

no

[vernal bloom]

@jovial tide i bought the pc its coming on the 16th

[jovial tide]

Oh congratz

the 1660 super?

[vernal bloom]

But i need one more for my lil bro but less than £650 for same games plz

[vernal bloom]

Yh

[jovial tide]

That's gonna be great

What games does he play?

[vernal bloom]

Number 1 game forza, and gta

And warzone

Now he gonna wanna play rp bcuz of me

[jovial tide]

I don't think you can buy one that plays those well for less than 600-650 sry

[vernal bloom]

Whats the minn

What about this. https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-it-10100f-4-3ghz-quad-core-gtx-1650-4gb-pc-for-gaming.html?config=15372-177390,15375-177441,15378-177534,15381-177546,15384-177591,15387-177603,15390-177651,15393-177666,15396-177690,15399-177693,15426-177864,17626-197854 @jovial tide

[lost fossil]

all wheel drive it

forza style

[raw forge]

I get all my stuff from unixsurplus.com

[vernal bloom]

It has gtx 1650 but not super

[jovial tide]

Well that's fine too

But the i3 I have to look

[leaden viper]

i'm usin i3 atm

no problem here

[jovial tide]

GTARP and Forza :/

[leaden viper]

just got upgraded gpu

[jovial tide]

1650 + 10100F for GTARP and FH5 is a bit low I think

[leaden viper]

hmm 10100F

GTARP easy 60 high settings

[jovial tide]

Nope

At least 3080 + i7 10th/11th gen struggle with 70-80fps Nopixel

[leaden viper]

GTA 5 / story mode / online still playable at high settings, 120fps

[jovial tide]

ofcourse

and online as well, max 60-80fps in a 20 man lobby

[leaden viper]

maybe theres some contributors

sorry english

i have i3-2100 3.10Ghz and GTX 1050Ti and fivem still playable at high settings

but i not with visual graphics

but i use graphics card mostly for mining

[jovial tide]

Dude

I'm not gonna argue, what you say is absolutely incorrect

There is no "FiveM" there are servers with different scripts

You can make one with 5 default scripts and call it FiveM.
1650 + 10400F will struggle, as yours also struggles.

GTARP servers are very resource intensive. same as FH5

[leaden viper]

🤷‍♂️

[vernal bloom]

Watch @faint wraith.00

[leaden viper]

no video=

[vernal bloom]

Nvn cant share the link

[leaden viper]

?

[vernal bloom]

Check dm @leaden viper

Start from 12:00 @leaden viper

[lost fossil]

as long as you don't have a gtx 1063 you're good

don't ask how i know

also you should definitely not install it on a hard drive

[vernal bloom]

So that is good ^

@lost fossil

[jovial tide]

idk, I've seen computers struggle with fivem

graphics aside, it is CPU heavy

[lost fossil]

some nerds on ph (⬇️ ) say that fivem needs an ssd

[jovial tide]

HTID do you have fivem?

[lost fossil]

i don't touch it with a 10 pole

[jovial tide]

See you're also misunderstood

[lost fossil]

we live in a society

[jovial tide]

hehehehehe

no I mean, there's more to it than RP; FiveM was made to make dedicated custom servers for people

I wanted you to test it in a car free roam server

[vernal bloom]

https://www.ebuyer.com/1288711-alphasync-diamond-amd-ryzen-5-16gb-ram-500gb-ssd-gaming-desktop-pc-as-d6211?utm_term=&utm_campaign=&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_acc=9657542215&hsa_cam=15243123076&hsa_grp=130987173738&hsa_ad=561104690058&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=pla-1460643706242&hsa_kw=&hsa_mt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAiA-9uNBhBTEiwAN3IlNKG1JeVPUqLA1hm0cbimzhJPuWJ3LEKBweuoYTnhcUe5-q4FgO5yxhoC_iIQAvD_BwE @jovial tide ?

[jovial tide]

Even worse

That you can build for 450 pounds

[vernal bloom]

😂

Plz help me find something that can run grand rp, forza 5 and warzone atleast cuz i aint about to share this pc with my lil bro no way

@jovial tide @lost fossil @leaden viper

[jovial tide]

Raise him some money

Buy him the same PC

[vernal bloom]

Cant

Just bought ps5 for me and XS for him

[analog wharf]

i swear everytime i go onto rsm freeroam some kiddo decides its time to spawn kill me with railgun lol

[jovial tide]

I don't play the pvp

[analog wharf]

although yea i swear fivem is pretty resource heavy

[jovial tide]

it is insanely resource heavy

the well developed servers are

[analog wharf]

and when there is alot of players in the same area its laggy asf

i tried to host my own fivem server but got bored of it quicky lol, maybe i would pay for a fivem server which would save time but not worth it if i'll probably just be playing with like maybe 5 other people lol

its not about my specs, i probably have enough specs to handle like 5-6 people but its just time consuming lol

[jovial tide]

Zaphosting 5$-10$ a month

Making it is easy, but scripting it isn't really

[analog wharf]

yea its cheap but yea like i say i'll probably just be playing with a few other people lol

you know what pisses me off

my tiny10 vm

so i reinstalled tiny10 on the vm (manually)

and then vmware decided to take one bloody good piss if i try to start it in uefi boot mode it just wont boot

idk if its still happening

let me start up vmware and see

yup still happening

great now my vmware isnt even responding

[jagged lark]

If i wanna become good at c++ should i fully learn the syntax first? Say practice and practice and use them differently before attempting challenging things like tryna make a game or app?

[analog wharf]

and its only happening on the tiny 10 vm

my vm with windows 11 installed boots just fine, uefi boot mode aswell

i have to switch the vm over to legacy bios boot but since tiny10 was installed on uefi mode i cant boot to tiny10

meaning i would have to reinstall tiny10 on the vm again on legacy boot mode and just hope the same doesn't happen again

[brave field]

@jagged lark What is your learning style like?

I find I can't learn syntax without making something with an actual function
Even then, is it worthwhile to fully learn syntax, or just the common parts? I think with C++, learning how to use pointers might be more interesting, since syntax between different C-style languages is pretty similar

[jovial tide]

Deitel and Deitel book

Best and most up to date c++ book ever

Each years with release of new c++ revision they edit their book

[analog wharf]

i enabled bitlocker on my windows 11 vm lol

[brave field]

whytho

[analog wharf]

idk why

still annoyed that my tiny 10 vm wont startup :/

scroll up and you will see what i mean

[jovial tide]

You have to fix the vm

It's probably vmware's fault

[analog wharf]

never had it happen before

and it does only happen on uefi boot

ah shit i have no snapshots

well this is gonna take a while

still happening

dunno how i would fix it

[jagged lark]

Learning commands then putting them in practice

[jagged lark]

Where do you find it?

[analog wharf]

the "fix" i found was just switching from uefi boot to legacy which i already knew :/

hmm

ill try legacy boot then just hope tiny10 has mbr2gpt

ill use that to convert the vms disk to gpt then try using uefi boot mode again

[jovial tide]

It's on amazon

Search c++ deitel and deitel

https://www.amazon.com/C-20-Programmers-Deitel-Developer/dp/0136905692/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=3V3UA67MQ0LI8&keywords=c%2B%2B+deitel&qid=1639434366&sprefix=c%2B%2B+deitel%2Caps%2C92&sr=8-1

[lost fossil]

[jovial tide]

That never counts as a drive you know

[brave field]

11TB samba share 😳

[lost fossil]

no but i want to backup my шindoшs to a network location

how tf is there not enough space on a 12 tb drive to backup a 250gb partition

[cold elbow]

Use syncthing

[civic cloud]

Шindows yes

[lost fossil]

i wanted to give built in solutions a try first

[vernal bloom]

XUM Gaming PC i7-3770 3.9GHz / 16GB RAM/GTX 1650 4GB / NVMe M.2 256GB SSD / 1TB HDD / 500W 80+ PSU/MIRAGE ARGB CASE / 600Mbps WiFi/Windows 10 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0912NDLJL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_A8WNJV66X813PSMA6WD7 @jovial tide ?

[jovial tide]

way too old

[brave field]

i7 3770

we 2012

[vernal bloom]

Damn

[jovial tide]

each year intel releases new gen, we're at 12

[brave field]

The 3770 is pretty much two gens ago's i3, a bit slower i3-10100

[jovial tide]

gen 3 = 9 years ago

[vernal bloom]

Fierce Ryzen Gaming PC Bundle - AMD Ryzen 5 5600G 4.4GHz, AMD Vega 7 Graphics, 16GB 3000MHz, 1TB Hard Drive, Windows 10 included https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B071HBQ7PF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_A7E6RWTRXM7NBR3EV9SH?psc=1

[lost fossil]

people say gen as if core 2 and pentiums and x86 didn't exist

sodge

[brave field]

core i gens

[lost fossil]

that is not a fierce pc

[brave field]

no SSD, no buy

[vernal bloom]

CyberpowerPC Regiment Gaming PC - AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, 450W 80+ PSU, Wi-Fi, Windows 11, Onyxia RGB https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01M25R37Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_GV7XEQ6F6S5CPQ4470Y0

[brave field]

no SSD, no buy

[lost fossil]

you need to look for pc without windows

if u know what i mean

[vernal bloom]

Why

[lost fossil]

[brave field]

dear apt full-upgrade
please stop opening less to show me changelogs
thanks

[vernal bloom]

Why no window ?

[vernal bloom]

Whats the good brand for gaming

[cold elbow]

Intel ftw

[arctic yarrow]

All of them. Nvidia and AMD for GPUs, Intel and AMD for CPUs. It highly depends on your budget, and which brand is best for those budget constraints.

I say select them all, then set a max price you'd be willing to spend, then ask here about comparing different builds.

[vernal bloom]

https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/Infinity-103-GTX-Next-Day-PC wyt

@arctic yarrow

[arctic yarrow]

1050 Ti is a little underpowered IMO, and the CPU could be a little more powerful, but not too shabby of a deal for today's market.

[vernal bloom]

??

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-it-10100f-4-3ghz-quad-core-gtx-1650-4gb-pc-for-gaming.html?config=15372-177390,15375-177441,15378-177534,15381-177546,15384-177591,15387-177603,15390-177651,15393-177666,15396-177690,15399-177693,15426-177864,17626-197854

• adata 960gb ssd

https://www.ebuyer.com/1288711-alphasync-diamond-amd-ryzen-5-16gb-ram-500gb-ssd-gaming-desktop-pc-as-d6211?_sgm_campaign=scn_875c3d7b02000&_sgm_source=1288711&_sgm_action=click

[brave field]

ITS BACK https://www.walmart.com/ip/Refurbished-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-R5-1650-Super-8GB-256GB-Gaming-Desktop-Tower/828808485?action=Create&rm=true

[arctic yarrow]

Better, but it doesn't say what cpu it is.

[jovial tide]

10100F

[light sinew]

I mean for like $600 that isn’t too crazy, but also not a crazy deal

Just sorta on the meh side pricing wise

[arctic yarrow]

Ah, thanks.

[lost fossil]

being a brand loyalist is the dumbest thing of all time

unless a brand has proved itself for being reliable and high quality

[arctic yarrow]

Really, go with whatever works best for the price.

[vernal bloom]

https://inside-tech.co.uk/product/intel-i3-10100-nvidia-budget-gamer/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAnuGNBhCPARIsACbnLzqhDOtI7XLHGRudv8EUi_9VOfiMuwOmjesqRZ-e00e1n_V7q6gHiG8aAlS9EALw_wcB guys what do you think about this?

[gleaming gazelle]

Jus get active

Codex

Ight

[lost fossil]

pro move: get a used z370 motherboard and an i9 engineering sample

$100 for mobo, $150 for cpu

deal

not future proof but tbf the only future proof thing is a good psu

[vernal bloom]

Huh

?

[dense birch]

hes spamming every channel ignore him

no moderation hours

[lost fossil]

ty for the input murdy hold on

https://aliexpress.com/item/1005003447931833.html

ty murdy gottem

[vernal bloom]

What is that

[lost fossil]

a cpu for the diy market

[vernal bloom]

This the recommendations for forza 5 on PC so this pre build should be fine ?

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-it-10100f-4-3ghz-quad-core-gtx-1650-4gb-pc-for-gaming.html?config=15372-177390,15375-177441,15378-177486,15381-177546,15384-177591,15387-177603,15390-177654,15393-177666,15396-177690,15399-177693,15426-177864,17626-197854

@lost fossil @jovial tide

[lost fossil]

today i learned from ltt that plex is not some specialized media architecture but just a piece of software

well

i need to watch my anime with external fansubs that use 450 custom fonts so i'll just continue manually going to folders and starting playback

[lost fossil]

sorry i'm not an expert in prebuilts and i don't have a good idea of how much one should cost

[civic cloud]

Oleg no D:

Become an expert right the heck now

[civic cloud]

This isn't simping

Git gud or u big unstraight

[cold elbow]

The new intel cooler

[gleaming gazelle]

Looks cool

[cold elbow]

A plastic e waste

[civic cloud]

why does it look like a 10 year old cooler but in new

thats some hella tiny fins

[iron lantern]

the motor takes up 50% of the space

there literally wasting space and aluminum

[lost fossil]

looks hot actually

as in, thermal throttling

[regal plover]

I bought the same pc with better specs for 400 euros

2 months ago lol

[mental cloud]

anyone here good in math?

[brave field]

maybe

@lost fossil Do you have a payment processor option like Paypal or something similar on Aliexpress?

I can't see anything but credit or wire transfer, but there's supposed to be an option depending on the seller

[lost fossil]

you can do google pay

[lost fossil]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[brave field]

[lost fossil]

uwu what's this

[brave field]

htop while transcoding a .ogg on my raspberry pi

[lost fossil]

then this should be c, not %

[brave field]

oh its that too, don't worry

[lost fossil]

[civic cloud]

[jovial tide]

Why is this Draco dude mentioning me in the same PC over and over again

Makes me wanna say things I can't say here

"Do you approve this? -no get this instead -ok" "Do you approve this? (same shit) @jovial tide " repeat repeat repeat...

[brave field]

First instinct would be to say help vamping but I don't think so

[jovial tide]

Hi Cookie btw

[brave field]

Its pretty hard to make a decision and be certain when all PCs have terrible pricing problems and good ones are only in stock for 3 hours at most

hello arash

[jovial tide]

See, if you ask for help or opinion, you can't force people to approve your already made decision

And if your decision's already made, and got the opinion; why ask for opinion again and again and again. it's like 10th time

500-600 pound desktop PCs are not acceptable; 10100F + 1650 is not good by today's standards; you might be better getting a laptop instead.

[brave field]

Arash

In the other, did you publicly vent about specific people you helped in the server while they were actively using it?

[jovial tide]

What's BAPO?

[brave field]

sorry I mean

the big server you were banned from before

[jovial tide]

I don't remember really

But I did ask for appeal, got refused, flamed the mods in reddit

Those places ban people for disagreeing with them; and they allow some people to disagree with you to the point of flaming

But I never said anything about any particular person ever

[brave field]

Draco is in here and uses this channel often. I think I'd feel pretty down reading this in Draco's position :/

[jovial tide]

Man I feel down getting asked is this 10100F 1650 (same PC) good? 10 times over and over again

[analog wharf]

i think my artix linux vm looks good lol

[jovial tide]

Oh did you fix it?

[analog wharf]

it was my tiny10 vm that still needs fixing lol

[brave field]

tiny10, does it function pretty much as well as Windows 10 Home?

[analog wharf]

it removes alot of features but is very lightweight lol

[brave field]

It looks like it might be a good alternative with limited storage...

[analog wharf]

a lightweight linux distro would probably be better if you actually wanna have some apps out of the box

[jovial tide]

Hmm Cookie, ESXi?

[brave field]

I want to be able to play audio in it, and I'm only really using RDP right now to view the VMs. XRDP's audio is a pain to set up in the distros I like, so I'm stuck with Windows until I try more hypervisors/viewers.

[analog wharf]

i gave my windows 11 vm like 13.5gb before and i only have like 16gb (pretty sure i have pagefile enabled tho) but now my windows 11 vm only gets 8gb of precious ram :)

currently updating my artix linux vm lol

[jovial tide]

How about the vsphere client?

That's why I asked ESXi, you can pretty much get all the outputs there

[brave field]

Not using anything VMWare at the moment

I did try workstation, it worked alright, but it was mostly just redundant. I already had both Virtualbox and KVM/QEMU on this system, and I don't really want to sack my host installing proxmox or esxi or friends

I want to move to just KVM to avoid the account ties and general heaviness in VMWare and the bugs in Virtualbox, but the audio under RDP is atrocious with it

22khz landline telephone levels of atrocious

[analog wharf]

also virtualbox ui looks horrible imo

[brave field]

What protocol do you use for video and audio output?

[analog wharf]

?

[brave field]

RDP, VNC, SPICE, some TeamviewerAnydeskParsecSteam, Apache Guacamole, whatever default your hypervisor has?

[analog wharf]

probably just the default my hypervisor uses lol

[lost fossil]

10100F

more like lol oof

[analog wharf]

complain

[brave field]

A320, nice

[lost fossil]

the only cpu worth using with an a motherboard is the athlon 200ge

[brave field]

The chipset everyone hated until AMD decided to not block AIBs from giving it Ryzen 5000 support, making it the only chipset to actually support all of AM4

[analog wharf]

i wanted you to complain that i was on legacy bios lol

[lost fossil]

5950x on a barebones a320 mobo let's go

[brave field]

Its so stupid

[brave field]

B350 and X370 boards can't get Ryzen 5000 support, and yet some A320 board that chokes if you overclock the 2200G's iGPU can?! WHY?

[analog wharf]

a320 boards can overclock shit in the first place lmao? the mobo i got atleast was pretty damn cheap, i could care less about ram speed which i knew i wasnt gonna get very high speed lol but atleast i have 16gb of ram even if its not that fast + a decent ryzen cpu for what i do paired with my shitty ass 3gb 1060 that if i ever get a new gpu i will literally throw out the window then kiss that new gpu

not joking lol

maybe the 6gb 1060 would be ok it atleast has an acceptable amount of vram

[lost fossil]

no, you can't oc on a320

which is why the only suitable cpu is the 200ge

although here at work we have these weird am4 apus

[brave field]

can push the iGPU with RyzenMaster/Radeon Software

[analog wharf]

eh my cpu doesnt even have igpu i dont think

• i would rather pick the shitty 1060 3gb over a shittier igpu lol

lol

so no one complaining that im on legacy bios lol

[lost fossil]

as long as things work alright, who cares

[analog wharf]

not like i want or need shitty tpm or secure boot anyways lol

atleast you can use drives over 2tb in size, probably never gonna need a drive above 2tb in size though for what i do

now complain i have windows installed on my hdd

[brave field]

ok double complaint time

you're storing stuff on C:, the least stable drive one can have, ouch
and you have Windows on a hard drive, ouch

[analog wharf]

the least stable drive letter lol

i just hope i dont have a seagate

kinda got to store stuff on my hdd though since its the largest but yea maybe i should install windows on my ssd eventually

its a sata ssd so its not that good but eh its better than nothing

pretty sure it is lol

[lost fossil]

hard drive very reliable yes

[analog wharf]

its still better than a sata hdd for sure

[lost fossil]

trust me

[analog wharf]

bro i swear if my hdd is a seagate

im gonna throw that thing out of the window

[lost fossil]

funny that you're saying that because i showed a seagate

[analog wharf]

so the st at the start means seagate

fuck that lol

[lost fossil]

all these hard drives are the same these days

[analog wharf]

seagate is unreliable asf im surprised my drive hasn't had a seizure yet

and wtf does this do lol

[lost fossil]

give it the cummies

i don't even know where you found that button

[civic cloud]

What the fuck

[hollow perch]

I bust vulkan trace physx on a typical ratio of 9:11

[edgy python]

Lol

[low dust]

whats a good pc build rn

[brave field]

Usecase, budget, country?

[low dust]

It can be used 1200 USA

[brave field]

What will it be used for?

[low dust]

oh gaming and tv

[brave field]

Every 10 hours or so a prebuilt with an i5 10400 and RTX 3060 ti shows up at https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/ for around $1130, might be worth checking out
If you're near a Microcenter, they've dropped prices on the 5600X and 5800X, so those CPUs may be worth looking into for a build
Next option would probably be something like this + finding and buying the GPU on your own https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hDsGvf

[low dust]

ok

[brave field]

Second and third are going to be a struggle more than likely, global shortage on all PC parts makes it almost impossible to get things at a sane price (GPUs especially, other parts to a lesser extent, but its still bad)

[low dust]

do you think waiting till june will help or no

[brave field]

I do think so, but I don't think the amount it will help by will be drastic

There's probably another 8-16 months of the worst GPU prices in the past decade

[cold elbow]

Or buy a series S if you only want to play games

[low dust]

i have a good pc rn and a xbox and a oculus for games i just wanna get a bit better pc sometime before the end of summer next year

[cold elbow]

Why not upgrading

[brave field]

What's your current PC specs? You might not need to work this hard

[low dust]

not good enough to be added on to

but they can run my games and tv

[jovial tide]

Buy Xbox S yeah or buy look at these from Newegg

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali570/p/N82E16883360205?Description=abs computer&cm_re=abs_computer-_-83-360-205-_-Product

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali524/p/N82E16883360129?Description=abs computer&cm_re=abs_computer-_-83-360-129-_-Product&quicklink=true

One is 1100, the other one 1300

[jovial tide]

Got a recommendation question. Not really for me, but for my mom and dad. I need something for them that's fast and mainly stores documents and pictures. Also something that'll allow my dad to video call without issues. Doesn't need to be top of the line, but something that's in the 150 to 200 dollar range. I tried browsing, but only found workstation pcs for up to 500-1000 dollars

[brave field]

These sorts are probably what you're looking for https://www.ebay.com/itm/254303011613 https://www.ebay.com/itm/283758849401
Not this specific one though, you can get 6th gen or 7th gen i5s with a small SSD instead in a similar price range

ebay is full of people flipping "broken" or liquidated office PCs

$166 with SSD https://www.ebay.com/itm/254861303271

[jovial tide]

I recommend Acer Aspire 3 or Aspire 5

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-A515-56-36UT-Display-i3-1115G4-Processor/dp/B08VKT45K4/

Looks good, performs ok, holds battery well and is portable.

Under 300$ most laptops are crap, desktops become second hand.
Mostly celerons, hdds (instead of ssd), horrible build quality or chromebooks; plus monitor, webcam, microphone cost if desktop.

[fervent granite]

Or worse, emmc

Also expect awful tn panels with 1366 x 768 resolutions

[brave field]

$370 is a bit above $150-$200
looks tasty

[analog wharf]

Why tf do I have xmp disabled

am I actually that dumb or just forgetful it’s one or the other lol

[brave field]

Why are they always so shiny?

[analog wharf]

idk lol but I’m gonna enter bios rq

Bruh was also gonna enable hyper threading but I just saw the option for auto, it shows as 16 logical processors anyways in taskmgr so I guess it’s already enabled

I guess I’ll check out the new gta online dlc before enabling xmp actually

[pliant lynx]

What can i talk about touch panel display?

i mentioned the types, the fabrication procedure,conclusion and comparison?

[worthy schooner]

So I gotta ask, in terms of gaming perhaps - what's the difference between a Listen Server model and a P2P model?

Because while apparently, Listen Server Models are based on Dedicated Servers, from what I've read about it, it sounds more like it's similar to P2P.

[jovial tide]

1-Your IP is exposed to everyone (or everyone near you) 2-Usually more desync in P2P because people's connections are not fully reliable, as much as datacenter connections. 3-There is no central management to control things in game

[worthy schooner]

And in regards to who's the host?
In P2P it's one of the peer clients.
In Listen Servers?

[jovial tide]

There are better ways of implementing peer to peer to make it work perfectly; recently Crab Game's dev, was contacted by Valve and taught how to make it work so it's secure and more reliable using IPv6 Teredo tunnels.

See, there isn't one host that's the point, therefore peer to peer

[lost fossil]

teredo

forza flashbacks

[jovial tide]

Crab game works :/

That's xbox app's crappiness my friend

[worthy schooner]

So wait. I thought for P2P or Listen Servers there's still a "host" appointed which gives them 0 latency and if they got a bad connection or leave, it'll affect the rest.

[jovial tide]

Dude

[worthy schooner]

Or am I dead wrong?

[jovial tide]

Who said "listen servers" to you?

Peer to peer means everybody's somehow connected to one another without a server

[worthy schooner]

That part I understood.

But what about Listen Servers now?

[jovial tide]

There is no 0 latency

There's always a latency, or latencies

[worthy schooner]

Ok, but wasn't there some kind of advantage for the host?

[jovial tide]

Again, there is no host, there is no advantage

If you host a server on FiveM and people join you, there is an advantage yes.

But when you're in GTA you're only connected fully to people around you, close by

[worthy schooner]

This isn't specifically about GTA tbh.

All I need to understand is how Listen Servers work.

Because I don't wanna mix anything up with P2P.

Hold on, I got some PowerPoint stuff. lol

[jovial tide]

it's all written in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_server

[worthy schooner]

Yeah, I felt like Wikipedia wasn't 100% the best source so I tried this.

[jovial tide]

it means

when a session is created, first or fastest (depending on what dev decides) player (in terms of connection) becomes the host - which acts like a dedicated server but on his residential connection.

[brave field]

morning friends!

[worthy schooner]

So, if his connection gets worse, so will everyone else's?

[jovial tide]

Yes 100%

[worthy schooner]

And if the "host" leaves - the session ends.

As for P2P, it just finds a new peer, so it doesn't matter?

[jovial tide]

Peer to peer, you have like a single player game with multiplayer implementation

It connects people in vicinity, and there's a master server controlling and getting stats from sessions without much load.

Hello @brave field Good morning

[worthy schooner]

So, one of the peers has to kinda run the information while not doing anything actively?

Like, I just play the game and it happens.

[jovial tide]

Peer to peer means all of the peers send and receive with vicinity

Or one another

[worthy schooner]

Hence the performance loss because everyone is in constant communication.

[jovial tide]

Depends, maybe there isn't much to communicate

What you see, isn't what is sent; it's more like location, car location, status, etc; lines of code not graphics

[worthy schooner]

So that's why e.g. in GTA, there's damage on my car, but someone else doesn't see anything.

[verbal karma]

https://www.public.gr/product/gaming/pc-controllers/mouses/ensyrmato-pontiki-logitech-g502-hero-high-performance-gaming-mouse/prod9400123pp/
this a good mouse?

[lost fossil]

in p2p everyone is interconnected

like skynet but for toxic online video games

i think listen server is a fancy name for p2p

or maybe listen server is an intermediate server that connects p2p peers with each other

kinda like how in bittorrent there is a tracker

[jovial tide]

Listen server has 1 host