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brave field
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What's this about a bot?

jovial tide
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yeah

charred otter
unreal iron
jovial tide
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Yes

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Modded gta cars are worth super much

unreal iron
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So, exposure

charred otter
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Still can't get over the payment method

unreal iron
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Also he has discovered that I am homosexual

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Apparently

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Oops there he went

jovial tide
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i used to make discord bots

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But that intent stuff is annoying ashell

unreal iron
charred otter
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After all that

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Ge is gone

jovial tide
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and now to read messages aswell

unreal iron
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Ahh

jovial tide
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they used to be chill

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Now they have strict rules about it which makes it way less fun

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all my bots are dead anyway

brave field
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intents are so annoying, yes

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hate them, hate them

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Its not even that they suck really, but making a command and then getting an "oh yeah, by the way, you need to go back to discord's site and enable the intent, and then reinvite your bot to test this new command" is so lame

jovial tide
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I remember when my bot needed intents to make the auto-roler on join work, it took 2 months for them to respond

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Yeah its crap

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slashcommands are ok but they had a greater idea behind it we now know

brave field
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really dislike slash commands

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The new interactions are very nice though

jovial tide
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the slashcommands are useful because now people dont need to "know" the commands they already show up with explanation

brave field
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ephemeral messages, being able to just right click messages, the pretty buttons

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slash commands still don't group or anything though

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even for dyno in here

jovial tide
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they might add it

brave field
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you have 10 /afk commands and right underneath it, you have the entirely unrelated /cat and you can't even sort though them any other way, bleh

kindred temple
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/cat

echo mural
civic cloud
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/cat

cedar pantherBOT
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:dynoError: The Fun module is disabled in this server.

civic cloud
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WHAT THE FUCK

autumn cryptBOT
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:dynoError: The Fun module is disabled in this server.

civic cloud
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😭

cedar pantherBOT
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:dynoError: The Fun module is disabled in this server.

unreal iron
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Dang

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Wanted a dad joke

jovial tide
unreal iron
glad grove
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Are alienware PCs overpriced?

brave field
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yes

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usually its a "depends on price" or "maybe" but I don't think a new Alienware has ever been worthwhile (excluding laptops, where its overpriced vs slightly less overpriced)

glad grove
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I see, thanks for your feedback! May I know how do I check if a pre-built PC can run a game? I get confused by all the terms since I’m new to the PC scene

brave field
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Look for benchmarks from youtube channels like https://www.youtube.com/c/GamersNexus and https://www.youtube.com/c/Hardwareunboxednow or from publications like TechPowerUp for the exact CPU and GPU in that system. Avoid sites like Userbenchmark or CPUboss that have fake results. There will also be a few somewhat less-professional youtuber channels that have gameplay with performance overlays you can look at.

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asking people in Discord servers, IRC, and sometimes reddit can be useful too, since many study or can have some extra anecdotal evidence that might be useful

kindred temple
brave field
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but you'll likely have to learn many of the terms regardless. There's unfortunately no easy way to get info on PC components without learning PC components

glad grove
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Alright!

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Thanks for the advice

brave field
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@kindred temple The hand saw KEKW
I got sad when they removed the 18 pack poptarts from PCPP

kindred temple
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I was going to include drills and drill bits but it wont be sub 2k

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So fuck it, gorilla glue that bitch

jovial tide
kindred temple
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All shit priced

jovial tide
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They have like 95% defective products and 5% good

kindred temple
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Even in black friday refurbs

jovial tide
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Nope

brave field
kindred temple
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Yooooooo

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I didnt know this exist

glad grove
brave field
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send here!

glad grove
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Alright

jovial tide
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I'll tell you my opinion too (as an Alienware owner who returned his laptop after 20 days)

unreal iron
glad grove
kindred temple
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Jesus fuck

brave field
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This alienware, no

kindred temple
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No

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must resist making fucked up joke about how bad the airflow choke is

jovial tide
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You can get better prebuilts and build better computers for much less

brave field
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That's $1200 for a $550 system if were weren't in a shortage and a frequently $700-$850 PC now

glad grove
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Wow

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What are some good alienware PCs then

jovial tide
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Laptops are ok'ish but not for 1000 to 1500$

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Like the X17 is great

unreal iron
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"In a chassis desig nEd for high performance gamaeplay"
Tfw the case decides class of gzmes.u can play

kindred temple
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A used one with cheap motherboard and PSU replacement teethmegalul

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Thats a good alienware.

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Get a good new case too

jovial tide
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Build a pc bro

unreal iron
jovial tide
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Right now 11700 and 3060ti abs sells for 1550

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That's a much better deal

brave field
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The best value Alienware I'm seeing on this link is the R12 with a 11400F and 3060 at $1500, but that price is $500 too high

glad grove
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I see

brave field
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not including hidden costs

unreal iron
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It's the logo that's worth the extr $500

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Just the badge

brave field
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the inability to upgrade or repair these and the terrible only 1 year of warranty on parts that otherwise would've had 3

unreal iron
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No guarantees or anything, it's like Apple

jovial tide
unreal iron
brave field
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@glad groveAre you limited to only Alienware right now?

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This one could be a balanced system, if you buy extra ram and storage for it

kindred temple
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Telling us where do you live nation wise would really help

unreal iron
unreal iron
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Oof

kindred temple
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That too

glad grove
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Sorry

glad grove
kindred temple
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But honestly sometimes the currency is already dead giveaway

brave field
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Exusia, we upgraded yours by removing every component dell made
hold on, I can get the link without the tracking parts of the URL that make it that long

unreal iron
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I'd like an alienware but my range is 3 strings, 2 pocket lint and a frog"

brave field
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idk what in the world is causing that to get nuked

unreal iron
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Li k length probably

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Server hates long links

unreal iron
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Didn't I just build something better than this for uhhh

kindred temple
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Looks averagely priced for a 3060+400F build hmmm

unreal iron
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$400?

brave field
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the GPU makes a huge difference on the price

unreal iron
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Oh no yeah I see the gpu

brave field
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That Newegg ABS system is not terrible. Its a bit higher than should be, but its definitely on the reasonable side for price/performance

kindred temple
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The last one ya sent

unreal iron
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That was a huge cost saver. I saved 300 by not having to buy gpu

kindred temple
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I wouldnt buy with that link because windowscentral is a shit website and thats their referral link teethmegalul

glad grove
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Ahh I see

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I just want to run 2 games: FH5 and GTA O

unreal iron
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What a pepega

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1 star "I need help"

brave field
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For reference on just how bad that alienware was, this Newegg ABS one you just sent can occasionally perform up to twice as well as that first alienware for only $200 more

unreal iron
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Any potato will run gta now

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Halo tho

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Oof

kindred temple
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I can run GTA 5 with my dumbass brain alone

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Anything can run GTA 5 nowadays

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Its all in how many FPS youll drop in GTAO

unreal iron
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My 9 year old alienware ran it without issues

brave field
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GTAV and GTAO are different beasts, but will be fine

unreal iron
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Like

brave field
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Yes anything from the past decade runs it +100fps on average if at 1080p, but the drops from singlecore perf when Online gets hectic can suck pretty badly. Even the 5600X can dip under 60 at times in GTAO

unreal iron
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Yeah that i3 2120 handled gtao lmaoooo

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Like the only aaa game it could handle

glad grove
kindred temple
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Cyberpower WeirdChamper

unreal iron
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What about ibuypower

brave field
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Its really a game issue sadly

kindred temple
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Only build in cyberpower site, not their brick and mortar store

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And even then

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Its still horrible.

brave field
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That cyberpower is definitely better in raw price to performance, but in the other departments, meh

kindred temple
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iBP is decent but again

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Avoid their brick and mortar preconfigs

glad grove
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I guess I wouldn’t mind the FPS for GTA Online, but not for games like COD

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Or halo

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So cyberpower pre-builts are a no?

brave field
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I honestly would take the risk for this one, out of it and the Newegg ABS

unreal iron
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Halo 5 is more demanding. That's your real Condition

brave field
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price drop is decent enough and the GPU is slightly better (assuming only game usage). Cyberpower sucks as a company but I think its worthwhile

kindred temple
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look cookie

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You can build the shittiest PC

unreal iron
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My bad 5 isn't new that's infinits

kindred temple
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And youll still be better than Digital Storm

glad grove
brave field
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I would out of those two. Keep looking though, in case there is a better option

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@kindred temple That name needs to be blacklisted

kindred temple
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And Redux too

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Subsidiary of DS as well.

brave field
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Digital storm isn't "oh yeah, they have some problems and they're overpriced" like Alienware or the Amazon brands or ibuy/cyberpower

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Digital storm contributes nothing to this planet but ewaste

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and they need more than a 70% discount to be even slightly worth considering most of the time

kindred temple
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I have a single sentence to summarize purchasing PCs from digital storm

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"theyll deliver your PC atop your dead body."

brave field
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@glad groveWhat's the total budget look like?

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There's a few alright deals still active

glad grove
kindred temple
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You could realistically DIY at 2 grand

glad grove
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I see

brave field
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5600X + 3080 system at $1600 on HP's site after a code 🤔

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It'll need some $100 in ram and storage, but viable if you really had to go with a prebuilt

kindred temple
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i forgot to tag you on this, but i realized that NZXT BLD started to ship out DIY kits for PCs, are these gon be decent way to circumvent BLD shitty build quality to get their very good components? @brave field

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link

brave field
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mmh, price makes up for any sort of partout stuff, but it should avoid their mistakes, yeah

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Their kit can't be much more than a recolor of the mobo manual that would've come with it, nothing that forces the user to install things incorrectly or hotglue stuff to the case

kindred temple
brave field
kindred temple
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@brave field have a read

brave field
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still looks like a mobo manual to me, they just added some drawings and verbose interludes

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I mean, it appears there's nothing in here telling people to zip tie a cable to their heatsinks, so the awful practices are avoided

kindred temple
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lul

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but yeah, its seems decent

brave field
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installs singular ram stick
instructional book:

kindred temple
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yeah its overgratifying but honestly i understand why

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PC building can be very tedious.

brave field
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good to feel rewarded but the cheese!

kindred temple
glad grove
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Thanks everyone

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Y’all have been a great help

brave field
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anytime, friend

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grab more opinions before making a decision

glad grove
glad grove
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so i am using pcpartpicker to build a pc now

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what's a good cheap motherboard?

brave field
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Depends on the CPU you're looking to use, which are you planning to go with?

kindred temple
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You can get a better deal than that, and you only need 6 core/12 threads CPU for modern games

brave field
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would replace the 3800XT with a 5800X or 5700G or even a 5600X, the 3800XT was created solely as a scam

kindred temple
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y e s

brave field
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The 212 evo is barely better than the cooler that comes with most Ryzen CPUs as well, but is priced in the range of a high end cooler

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not as a scam though, more because they stopped manufacturing them 6 years ago and they don't really exist in new condition much anymore

glad grove
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ahh ok

kindred temple
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and i still leave you 400$ to get a monitor and cheap kbm

jovial tide
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This?

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11700 and 3060Ti

kindred temple
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overkill cpu

jovial tide
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11400f 3060ti

kindred temple
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painfully high price for em haHAA

jovial tide
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Hmm idk

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How much is 3060ti market price?

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I don't think it's overpriced

kindred temple
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Like at best 600$?

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900$ is still too much

jovial tide
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I don't think anyone can buy 3060ti at that price

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750 to 850 should be the lower prices

glad grove
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whats a good cheap storage to use?

brave field
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A non-QLC SSD for booting and essential programs, and a larger hard drive for older games and mass storage is usually enough to start out with

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toss in as many extra drives later as needed

jovial tide
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@glad grove See Hallowed, this is much better than Alienware

brave field
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something like a 500gb-1tb NVMe drive at a reasonable price with a Barracude 2TB

jovial tide
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We have experts here

glad grove
kindred temple
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oh and also an 80$ too expensive windows 10 key.

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and a bad X570 board pick, B550 is good enough

brave field
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no SSD makes it very close to unusable with how Windows 10 is on its current updates
The parts in this list that work do work well, its just the parts that don't work really don't work

kindred temple
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also yes

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HDD only

glad grove
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Ahh ok

brave field
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same link as before?

glad grove
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Oh my bad

kindred temple
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still no SSD in sight WeirdChamp

glad grove
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What’s that

brave field
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This 212 evo needs to go

kindred temple
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you kidding me?

glad grove
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No

kindred temple
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a solid state drive

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its like the storage in your phone, but even faster. It uses flash dies to write data on it instead of magnetic platters.

glad grove
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Ok

kindred temple
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You really need to have one to have a pleasant modern windows experience nowadays

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Atleast 250GB, but personally i find the 480-512GB is already cheap enough to have even in budget rigs.

arctic yarrow
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yeah, 250gb is minimum, 500 is typical.

glad grove
kindred temple
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just 1TB to boot in...

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You dont need a pair of it.

willow swan
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1+1=infinity

kindred temple
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i got homework, soz

lost fossil
jovial tide
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Alienware sells to this type of people unfortunately
People who look for beauty, lack computer knowledge, and are scared of building a pc.

glad grove
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Not everyone has the time to research about PC building tbh

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So I guess people pay more for alienware for the convenience

jovial tide
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I wasn't talking about you, I'm an active /r/alienware redditor ever since I bought that laptop (m15 r6)

glad grove
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Also, fixing a PC may be troublesome to some

glad grove
jovial tide
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also, alienware is pc, with worse support (Dell), and irreparable parts

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(motherboard, power supply)

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and then if you replace these 2, you have to cut some parts of the case to fit those parts in :/

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Such a shame really, wish they sold their Alienware brand to some other big manufacturer.

glad grove
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I guess they enjoy the profits

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Anyways, one should not be spending more than 1k on pre-built PCs

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Get a cheap PC and upgrade it as time passes I guess

jovial tide
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That I also disagree with

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The moment I returned that laptop I bought ABS from Newegg

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10400F + 3060Ti + 16GB ram + 1TB Nvme ssd and I'm happy with it
At the time, it cost around 1450$ (USD) which was 100-200$ below market price (if you took GPU into account)

glad grove
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Would love to hear your opinion on this

jovial tide
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Well what I have handles FH5 well

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GTA's pretty much fine too, fifa I've never played but I guess that's good too

glad grove
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Which PC do you currently own now

jovial tide
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are you in us?

glad grove
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Yes

jovial tide
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But the 3060Ti + 11700 is better deal I think

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Mine has lower specs, my PSU is bronze not gold

glad grove
glad grove
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Alright, thanks buddy

jovial tide
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np

glad grove
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Sorry 1 more question, what fps does FH5 run at for you

jovial tide
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Ultra around 140

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Extreme 100-110

glad grove
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Ok thanks man

jovial tide
lost fossil
strong saffron
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Can you update BIOS without already having a compatible processor? FeelsThinkingMan

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(is this something i need to worry about?)

Warning! Some AMD B550 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Cezanne CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.

kindred temple
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Its less some motherboard and more like some motherboard batch

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newer boards made in 2020-21 should be updated for 5000 series CPU already

lost fossil
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some mobos have the bios flashback feature where you don't need a cpu or even ram installed but on most you'll need a compatible cpu first

kindred temple
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yeah, 80% of the time you gonna need a compatible CPU.

lost fossil
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that;s why i had to buy a 3600 to get my 5800 working WeirdChamp

strong saffron
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I'll check if it has BIOS flashback then haHAA
Thanks

lost fossil
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later i upgraded my work pc from 1600 so it's good goaWeirdButOkay

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later sold the 1600 to a coworker OkayChamp

kindred temple
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as simple as that and you aint losing much if they have the same exact motherboard you gonna buy online.

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Or...

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Wait, thats the 400 series form

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here

lost fossil
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tbf any 500 mobo you buy today will have the updated beavis

kindred temple
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yeah most of the time

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but in places like Indonesia, oleg

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the same stock in release usually still wont be sold for like months

lost fossil
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my situation was last december when these things were still rolling out

kindred temple
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or even till the product's EoL

lost fossil
kindred temple
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its that low of a demand.

strong saffron
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I'm not buying it in person because things are expensive here - I'm having someone I know buy and ship it here so I don't think I qualify for that FeelsThinkingMan
I can probably tell them to get it updated at the store though

kindred temple
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My B450 board i bought had a release bios and i bought it in december 2019

jovial tide
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It boost to 1920MHz

lost fossil
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i mean, i get 110(ish) on a 6800AdobeXd

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are you playing at 1080? hmmmHD

kindred temple
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optimized for novideo meme hmmm

jovial tide
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1080 yep

lost fossil
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ah robdab

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i are 1440

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makes sense then HmmmNoted

kindred temple
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yall mf turn off motion blurs right?

jovial tide
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yep

lost fossil
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i do except for when i forget to

jovial tide
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hate motion blur, mine is on low

lost fossil
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our eyes have motion blur built in

jovial tide
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that's a mind thing

lost fossil
jovial tide
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not everybody in every state of mind has motion blur monkaHmm speaking from experience

lost fossil
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tbf in racing games you're supposed to look at the road smth like 50 meters ahead

jovial tide
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Oleg you like hard bass remixes?

lost fossil
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and it doesn't move that fast on the screen

jovial tide
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This will turn your brain's motion blur off

lost fossil
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i don't listen to RussianHardbass thank you very much

ionic thistle
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@fickle flume what game ?

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gonna watch arcane rn PauseChamp

cold elbow
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The dude arrived

civic cloud
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Hot

lost fossil
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wait but i read that 980 regular is dramless

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dramless would be good for something like a game drive but i wouldn't use it for operating os system purposes

cold elbow
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Why is that

lost fossil
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bc dramless is bad for write intensive things

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which being an os drive is

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for games you just install them and that's it so not having dram cache is not a big deal but for os it's no bueno

cold elbow
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Well it comes with 5 years warranty so

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What I care about the most is performance

tame current
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I wish iPad Air 5 comes out already

lost fossil
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i mean maybe it's not as bad as we all assume dramless ssds are

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it will probably be fine as an os drive

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certainly not as fine as a 980 pro yoba

cold elbow
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The slc cache is 160GB

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im moving from a wd blue sata m.2

jagged lark
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What else can i do with c++ knowledge apart from game development and server side stuff?

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Cause i wanna learn the entirety of C and C++ but looking at unreal engine code it's not in C++ /stack overflow, just unreal

brave field
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Make drivers, native Windows/Linux programs, embedded/systems programming, libraries/modules for other programming languages

latent drum
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AMD shifting to samsung instead oF TSMC

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QUALCOMM was first then nvidia , now AMD

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HHMMM

lost fossil
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gnusmas is in big money monkaW

jagged lark
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I know this is far fetched but can i make my own game mods?

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Or discord bots?

latent drum
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yes

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with enough skills

latent drum
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they are also shipping GDDR6+ and 1st leader for DDR5

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not to mention 5G towers and their monitors lineup
they also make panels for apple and google and every one else

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samsung is a money printer

brave field
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competition eliminates itself

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wonder how GloFo is doing after telling AMD that they're done going under 12nm

latent drum
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samsung been deleting competition

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they arent making products
they just make the shit needed to make products
thats 100000000 IQ business plan

brave field
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They've really been taunting me with these prices

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I just need one of these hundreds of posts to drop to $50

latent drum
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thats awful

brave field
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Its perfect!

lost fossil
brave field
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18 cores wowie

lost fossil
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my server/nas pc currently has a 6 core i7

brave field
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where do you find a cheap enough board for these?!

lost fossil
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i already have one

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anus asus x99s

kindred temple
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alibaba diy motherboard

brave field
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LGA2011 v3 board?

lost fossil
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yes

kindred temple
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with like 1+1 phase VRMs for a 100+W CPU

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:dab:

lost fossil
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my friend has a workstation x99 board and some engineering sample 8 core xeon, he's planning to get this cpu

brave field
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That TDP is a bit wild, I don't think I would

lost fossil
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and i'm here like monakHmmm

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145w tdp i think

brave field
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Does he

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really have a good usecase for it all?

lost fossil
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compiling code kekw2

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as for me, idk

kindred temple
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all for how much

brave field
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What in the world is he compiling?

lost fossil
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195 eypo

brave field
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Is he part of the Ungoogled-Chromium team, compiling 100gb+ of source code per day?

lost fossil
kindred temple
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no, for the whole shebang

lost fossil
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i dunno, both him and i already have all the other hardware

kindred temple
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fair enuf

lost fossil
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both his pc and my server have x99 boards

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and then maybe down the line i could start buying these

brave field
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If you can use 18 cores, and have a reliable way to cool that monster, worth

charred otter
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finally fixed my audio drive

charred arrow
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Hey I wanna buy a hdd but cant decide which one:
Seagate BarraCuda 1TB, 3,5", SATAIII, ST1000DM010:

  • 7200rpm
    read/write: 156mbps

Seagate SkyHawk 1TB, 3,5", SATA, ST1000VX005:

  • 5900rpm
    read/write: 180mbps
brave field
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Prices?

charred arrow
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barracua 34 euros ($38)
skyhawk 40 euros ($44)

brave field
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The Barracuda is generally regarded as a better drive for general use, but it might be worth spending 45-50 euro or so for the 2TB Barracuda instead, since capacity is doubled for very little

charred arrow
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So this one

brave field
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ST2000DM008, yup. As long as you're not installing your OS, like Windows onto it, that drive is usually 1.2x the cost of 1TB options for double the storage
SkyHawk is slightly more targeted at NAS and video surveillance use than random read/writes

charred arrow
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Im going to use it to install games

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Got a fast internet connection and now im enjoying downloading a ton of games but my 1tb hdd filled up in no time

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:P

charred arrow
brave field
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I feel you, storage is never enough

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anytime, friend!

charred arrow
arctic yarrow
jovial tide
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@brave field

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Remember when we talked about my PC

brave field
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just under 4TB in my main PC, 1TB on the home server

jovial tide
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And you told me to get a 3060 or something

brave field
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but all in all some smelly 100GB truly free haHAA

jovial tide
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I switched from the 6600XT I was first planning to get to a 3060ti, that was a good decision imo

charred arrow
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@brave field can I ask you a question that I cant find a answer to?

brave field
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sure

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@jovial tide 3060<6600XT<3060ti, definitely the better choice if you can find it in stock at a good price

charred arrow
#

I have a Gigabyte gtx 1050ti g1 gaming oc rgb card, and the question is if this is a kind of 'rare' card maybe? Just because I cant really find noone selling it, all of them are without rgb or without the g1 gaming, cant find the same one like I have, theres one on ebay and thats for 350euros

#

(I always find gtx 1050tis without rgb or the g1gaming and oc tag)

#

this exactly

brave field
#

Doesn't appear rare, it just seems the "OC" and "RGB" parts are always left out of listing titles

#

I can't find any non-oc or non-rgb model anywhere, just posts not mentioning those parts

charred arrow
#

Hm

#

Just because almost no 1050 i found had no rgb on the box

#

But also on the card

#

On the side where is the rgb logo

#

Other card have the whole side design different than mine

#

a bit different

#

anyways good to know

#

And thank you again!

lost fossil
#

today i learned that one of my hard drives died Weirdmonka

#

the good thing is that i don't even know what the hell i stored there

#

so potentially not too much of a problem but ig i'll have to schedule some hard drive expenses

glad grove
#

980 bucks for this

#

Let me know if it’s worth a buy!

lost fossil
cold elbow
#

I was about to point that out

lost fossil
#

now im not sure if 930 dollars for any computer with a gtx 1650 is a good buy but i know for a fact that 930 for a computer with 512gb ssd and no hard drive, with a noname power supply and a copy of windows that they expect you to crack is definitely not worth your time and/or money

arctic yarrow
#

Yeah, that thing is a piece of junk for what you'd be paying for it.

lost fossil
#

and a stock intel cooler

brave field
#

Offer $400

glad grove
brave field
#

bullet dodged

civic cloud
lost fossil
#

yeah you see an i3 - that's $600 tops, with gpu included

#

maybe even $500

cold elbow
#

But but

#

It comes with LED strip

#

🥺

glad grove
#

Found an even more absurd deal

brave field
#

better deal than the last, I suppose

arctic yarrow
#

That is a better deal, but the CPU is pretty dated.

brave field
#

Its not as fair to ask for 50% off with this one

glad grove
# glad grove

I was thinking of purchasing this and swapping out the CPU

brave field
#

You'll have to swap out the motherboard as well if you want something significantly better

#

and then the ram

glad grove
#

Tech is really overpriced

brave field
#

ye

#

With this shortage, the used market is just so terrible

#

and there's enough financially well-off people overpaying on everything new that actual budget options won't be a thing for a while

glad grove
#

I will try and wait it out then

glad grove
#

Hope I did well this time FeelsSadMan

civic cloud
#

Don't be sad 🥺

glad grove
#

The PC building scene is scary

#

I’ve only ever played with consoles

brave field
#

good system!

#

you can get more for your money by removing the cooler and going for a less expensive, but just as reliable PSU

#

Since the 10400/F can't be overclocked at all and doesn't run hot, another cooler won't benefit it

glad grove
#

I see, good eye!

brave field
#

since the 10400F is only $1 cheaper, might as well keep your 10400, though

#

The difference in the two is that the normal 10400 has integrated graphics, which won't be very useful for your games, but can be alright for troubleshooting a dead GPU or doing video encode/decode

#

Paying $1 for a GT 710 with the video encode/decode of a GT 1030, just about. Worth.

glad grove
#

Sounds like a steal to me too

#

I was considering a brand new 6600xt, but they are wayyy overpriced

indigo viper
#

I was supposed to get a rtx 3080 but it got way to expensive and I went to a pc shop near by and they sold a rtx 3080 for $2000 I got and rtx 3060 instead that was still alot

lost fossil
jovial tide
#

Best options today are prebuilts and some laptops

brave field
#

waiting it out since 2009 wowie

#

Given up on the Xeon plans

#

ATX board prices are stupid, even importing

charred otter
#

help

#

my mouse is not working

kindred temple
charred otter
#

just worked 20 minutes ago

#

i legit was playin minecraft

cold elbow
#

That's the problem

jovial tide
#

SteamOS 3.0 will be a standalone linux distro!

lost fossil
lilac fable
#

I got a 1050ti and there’s no like slots or smth for the cables to go into

lost fossil
#

Pepega description

lilac fable
#

Do I just not plug it in then

#

Wait that didn’t make sens

lost fossil
#

1050 ti is low enough power to not require extra power

lilac fable
#

I’m trying to word this lmao wait

#

So when I get my power supply

lilac fable
#

I just don’t plug any cables into it?

lilac fable
jovial tide
#

Also 1050Ti doesn't need supplementary power

#

So no PSU cables go into it

lost fossil
#

you're trying to tell me that your gpu doesn't have a 6/8 pin power connector and i'm here telling you that it's weaksauce so it doesn't need extra power peepoNeat

jovial tide
#

You just plug it into PCI-e and enjoy

lilac fable
#

Yeah that’s what I was thinking, thanks

lost fossil
#

bruh

jovial tide
#

Yep, it's normal

lost fossil
#

why can't we have nice white mobos

jovial tide
#

Even 1050Ti OC versions don't have it

lilac fable
#

This mobo is very nice

jovial tide
lilac fable
#

I know I still have to peel the little thing that goes on top

#

My power supply got canceled

lost fossil
lilac fable
#

Out of all things

jovial tide
#

what are your specs?

lilac fable
#

The power supply

jovial tide
#

you can put hardcover on top of it

lost fossil
#

i want a white mobo right fucking now

lilac fable
lost fossil
#

good shit

jovial tide
lilac fable
#

Probably

jovial tide
#

it's almsot black friday, get a better CPU for it

#

what's the board btw?

lilac fable
#

One sec

#

I think it’s like b550 something but ima chrck

jovial tide
#

ROG Strix B550-F ?

lilac fable
#

rog strix b550 a gaming

jovial tide
#

that's a great board, do a CPU upgrade if you can afford 😉

lilac fable
#

Yeah I just got it so I’m gonna stick with it a bit

#

I will probably get a better one 100%

#

Better gpu first tho

jovial tide
#

Pretty good PES_ThumbsUp

lilac fable
#

They haven’t refunded me yet

lost fossil
#

do a xeon style upgrade and get a 5950x in 6 years

jovial tide
#

takes up to 1 month cory

lilac fable
#

For a refund ?

jovial tide
#

yep

lilac fable
#

Wth

lost fossil
#

reefund

lilac fable
#

I don’t have the money to get one in the meantime so I guess I’m waiting pc-less

jovial tide
#

I can give you a nice song to enjoy while waiting for it xd

lilac fable
#

Is it a 1 month long loop?

lilac fable
#

Why thank you

#

What about the operating system

jovial tide
#

Grey market it ez

lilac fable
#

Someone told me I can use windows for free for like 90 days

jovial tide
#

I bought for 20$ OEM

#

But we can't talk about how to do that here.

lilac fable
#

Gotcha

#

But is that true?

#

The free trial

jovial tide
#

Oh there's no free trial

lilac fable
#

Aw man I got lied to

jovial tide
#

You can use Windows without any license forever

#

You can also get that license for cheap from grey market which is like semi legal

lilac fable
#

Lmao semi legal

jovial tide
#

Many tech youtubers like Greg Salazar openly advertise the websites and even give people ref codes to get % off

lilac fable
#

But for the free no liscence what can I can or can’t do

jovial tide
#

You can usually pay with paypal for a safe pay, and get the license instantly

lilac fable
#

Gotcha

lost fossil
#

when i see people talking about pirating things reception

jovial tide
#

Well HTID, idk if it's pirating

lost fossil
#

well

jovial tide
#

You buy a legitimate, one use OEM or retail license.

lilac fable
#

Popo oleg 👮‍♀️

lost fossil
#

i didn't pay for my windows woawaaaaa

jovial tide
#

I use a public Iranian KMS server to activate 😄

lilac fable
#

I can’t pay for my windows : D

jovial tide
#

See, we're close xd

lilac fable
#

I want a aio

jovial tide
#

But I used to do that, here in Canada I always get legitimate keys

jovial tide
#

So here are the good options

#

Kraken x53, H100; and for triple fan 360mm H150 and Kraken x73

lilac fable
#

That’s what I’ve had my eyes on for like

#

Pretty much forever

jovial tide
#

You in US?

lilac fable
#

Canada

jovial tide
#

Oh, same

#

Newegg's selling for good price + gives back rebate

lilac fable
#

Lemme see

jovial tide
#

Also, Newegg's partnering with ZIP which gives you 4 interest free payments

#

(Rebate applies to US only, sorry)

lilac fable
#

Just realized I can buy at my local Best Buy for $150CAD

jovial tide
#

Well it's cheaper on Newegg

#

135

#

They ship from Ontario I believe

lilac fable
#

It’s more expensive there for me

#

$230

jovial tide
#

interesting!

lilac fable
#

Ah that’s the black one

#

I’m looking at white

jovial tide
#

Yeah this one's the cheapest

#

This one also performs really well

lilac fable
#

Do I need to buy more fans for the h100i radiator

lilac fable
#

Because isn’t there fans on both sides of the radiator

jovial tide
#

Ships from US which is kind of disappointing

#

No you don't

lilac fable
#

Oh so the fans are just on 1 side

jovial tide
#

AIO would work perfectly as is

fervent granite
#

aye io

jovial tide
#

You make it pull air from top to inside

lilac fable
#

Aye eye oh

lilac fable
#

Or like

#

How do I say it

jovial tide
#

They pull air to the radiator same way car's fans work

#

Then your case's fans push it out from the back

fervent granite
#

You reckon aio water is good enough to drink still?

lilac fable
#

So would it be mounted to the ride side or top

jovial tide
#

Preferably top

kindred temple
#

so n o

fervent granite
lilac fable
#

Ok but then the fans would be mounted for exhaust so the hot air gets pushed up

jovial tide
#

Nope

#

I would do it the other way

lilac fable
#

Left and top fans intake right fans exhaust?

jovial tide
#

Depends on how good your case is, but if you pull air to the radiators from outside

#

into the case, then push it out with front case fans it works better

lilac fable
#

Then shouldn’t I mount it to the right then

jovial tide
#

Yes, you shouldn't

lilac fable
#

So those 3 fans are pulling cool air

jovial tide
#

Front fans cool the whole thing, including GPU

#

You don't wanna block your front for a normal case with AIO radiator + fans

lilac fable
#

Ohhh ok

#

I get it now

#

Thanks

jovial tide
#

See when you do this, if your case's ventilation's good, your radiator will run more efficiently since it cools with cold air outside instead of hot air in the case

#

Also, the hot air that temporarily sits on top doesn't really affect the CPU, since it's much harder to heat up water with air, plus very little air actually gets in.

pliant lynx
#

time to upgrade storage haHAA

fervent granite
#

Soldered components gang Sadge

fervent granite
#

Yep

jovial tide
#

Yeah laptops are bad

fervent granite
#

Eh kinda, my config is more than enough for my needs

#

Would be nice to have upgradeable ram/storage but I prefer the slim form factor

jovial tide
#

@sour marsh staff? 😮

#

Congratz

jovial tide
#

A Chinese brand making it with 9900K and 1660Ti (notebook) GPU

fervent granite
#

Yeah but that's still a desktop

#

Would never work as a laptop

jovial tide
#

It's small though

fervent granite
#

Yeah but it's not like you're going to be using that thing in class or on the road

civic cloud
#

@lilac fable hey how u doing

cold elbow
kindred temple
cold elbow
#

I like controlled balanced airflow.

civic cloud
#

I like trains

kindred temple
#

no shit, fucking duh.

cold elbow
civic cloud
#

Hewo melon

lost fossil
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jovial tide
#

Best timestamp for a response ever

jagged lark
#

Bruh my school wifi is fast asf yet can't load GeForce now

#

141 download, 32 upload

pliant lynx
#

school network have the tendency to block some app

cold elbow
#

might be just DNS

jagged lark
#

Wasn't blocked just said could not connect

jovial tide
#

It's blocked

civic flower
#

my tv dont have hdmi arc, optical, bluetooth, or an aux cable so how do i connect it

cold elbow
#

start by telling us what it has

civic flower
#

hdmi 1 and 2 and other av ports

cold elbow
#

then why not using HDMI

civic flower
#

because it isnt working, i think i need to use an optical cable with the regular hdmi but there isnt a port on the tv for optical

cold elbow
#

u want it for sending audio?

civic flower
#

crap i forgot what i said i was tring to connect. im tryna put a soundbar with it

cold elbow
#

u could try like taking audio from the sending device

#

or yeah optical if u have that

civic flower
#

what can i use tho my tv has the most minimal amount of ports on it no optical or anything

crude jewel
#

is it possible to play with two different characters in different devices from same account?

cold elbow
#

as i said u can take audio directly from the sending deive like your console

#

or use arc adapter

civic flower
#

ill try an adapter i guess

pliant charm
#

I decided to make a rickroll on this microbit, because i was bored in class, however I didn’t have enough time to finish the entire line, nor to upload the code on to the microbit

brave field
#

Nice!
Hardware Arduino-like access but usable via JS, interesting!

vernal bloom
#

Need help finding a starter gaming PC?

jovial tide
#

Anyone can Suggest me best laptop for games, editing and study

jovial tide
jovial tide
jovial tide
#

India and 500$

#

see, you're asking way too hard questions

#

Laptop for games, editing, and study, for 500, in India sounds impossible.

#

Hardware is already overpriced, and I think if I know correctly, overtaxed over there. and for 500$ you really can't get anything that good.
Best I can think of would be Acer Aspire 5 or Nitro 5 (older ones)

cold elbow
# jovial tide Explain hmmm

Imagine having 6 intake fans and one exhaust
The result is an uncontrolled airflow because of the positive pressure
your GPU will get warmer because you are pushing hot air back to its intake.

jovial tide
#

Top's not really an intake fan

#

The radiator sits below, and there's very little air coming in

cold elbow
#

Flip the fans on the top rad and i will be happy

fervent granite
#

Just stick one of these on it and you should be good to go

brave field
#

@jovial tide pic?

jovial tide
#

im bout to leave home but ill show u eq

#

rq*

#

see that part between the top n bottom

#

completely missing

brave field
#

card looks normal

jovial tide
#

Thats the old one

#

new 1

#

whoever does the prebuilding sucks at their job

brave field
#

Different models

jovial tide
#

ah

#

we asked for a dif one but same thing

#

what model?

brave field
#

the building process doesn't really involve assembling the GPU cooler

#

The top is a gaming OC and the bottom is...

jovial tide
#

ehh that is true

#

the bottom is empty

#

lol

#

under it is wiring right?

brave field
#

heatpipes

jovial tide
#

ah ok

#

is it a 3060ti or no

#

cuz we asked for an exchange

brave field
#

found it

jovial tide
#

also, i dont know my gpus lol

brave field
#

the top has the Gaming OC/Pro cooler, the bottom has the Eagle OC cooler

#

there's no indication of which GPU it is from the outside, they use the same coolers for everything but the 3090

#

but seeing heatpipes there isn't a manufacturing error, just part of this cooler design

jovial tide
#

ah

#

I was worried tbh

#

so when i get home ill just see which one it is

#

If it isnt a 3060ti then we’re about to have 2 returns sitting outside our house

brave field
#

that would be awful, ugh

#

got images, aha

#

Gigabyte's 3D model pictures compare something like this

fervent granite
#

Soooo when they making these things slimmer?

brave field
#

Never

#

gamers have more money than ever right now, and want more RGB than ever right now

#

have to squeeze as many frames and fit as much RGB in as possible without increasing manufacturing costs

jovial tide
#

lmao

#

dont point me pit like that

#

out*

#

my whole setup is rgb custom

brave field
#

may be worth looking into RGB strips

#

you can get enough to light a whole mansion for $20 vs ram or GPUs that have 200% markups for it

jovial tide
#

all my things have rgb strips already

#

lmfaoooo

#

fr those 16 foot strips r like 5 dollars around here

brave field
#

yeah, really easy to buy a 200 ft reel of Alexa/Siri-enabled, wifi-enabled, waterproof lights for $10

jovial tide
#

that looks like a 2060 bro

brave field
#

and then you have companies like corsair or razer also ordering them from the same factory and putting their own stickers and custom connectors to sell them for $100 Sadge

jovial tide
#

how tf they gonna scam me like that

#

if it is a 2069

#

2060*

brave field
#

complain again if they do

jovial tide
#

well guess what

#

thats why we ordered 2

#

lmao

#

i got another one from black friday

brave field
#

Gigabyte uses some of the same coolers for their 2000 and 1600 series though, its likely what you ordered

jovial tide
#

and return

#

i specifically ordered a “exchange for the same thing”

#

and they gave me a ripped up damn 2060?!?!

ionic aspen
#

what’s a good entry level budget cpu?

fervent granite
jovial tide
#

i need a 3090

brave field
#

@fervent granite They can't man

#

we'll lose that extra 5fps that we'll never see on a 144/165hz monitor

#

Linus Tech Drip will complain !!111!

fervent granite
ionic aspen
brave field
#

@ionic aspen What usecase and budget? Have a motherboard in mind already?

#

CPU options are likely going to be some sort of 10400F or 5600G for "budget" at $150-200

#

The $100 CPU market is almost dead Sadge

jovial tide
#

they said they would give me a free 4090 ti extreme

brave field
#

@fervent granite I agree with you on size/power being overdone though, really

#

25W cTDP should be an option for every CPU
(EU, get on that after right to repair, please)

ionic aspen
#

im new to building pcs and i was just going down the list in pcpartpicker, so i don’t have anything else going for me rn

#

if i can find one id prefer a dedicated gpu though

ionic aspen
#

doubt with my low budget ceiling

brave field
#

16 thread i9 using less power than some CPUs in non-gaming laptops is absurd

jovial tide
#

mine is a i7 11700f or a i7 11700k

brave field
#

What's the budget? @ionic aspen

jovial tide
#

well it shouldve been

fervent granite
#

$700?

jovial tide
#

you saw nin

ionic aspen
#

800$, but if the total comes up a little over, i can compensate

brave field
#

GPU is really going to eat into that

#

I'd look into the prebuilt postings over at r/buildapcsales

jovial tide
#

nom nom muda fuga

#

i steal your 1500 dolahs

brave field
#

The cheapest GPU this generation has a $330 MSRP and sells for $700, and the used market is full of people who know it, so prebuilts with 16 series stock are really the best option

ionic aspen
#

i was trying to avoid prebuilts though, just out of personal experience with them prior

brave field
#

understandable

mossy spear
#

lemme flex my 1.7TB storage on console 😎

brave field
#

GPU prices are the worst they've been in a whole decade though

#

not too much that can be done right now

ionic aspen
#

i don’t mind just going for an iGPU, then coming back and upgrading later, warzone would be the most demanding game id play for a while anyway, and i’m not looking for 60+ fps performance

mossy spear
#

Cookie, how much storage do you have?
brad, how much storage do you have?
geforce, how much storage do you have?

jovial tide
#

idk how to build one so i rely on people who do

brave field
#

just under 4TB on my main system, roughly 1.5TB on my server

mossy spear
#

w h a t

ionic aspen
jovial tide
#

t a h w

mossy spear
#

t h e

jovial tide
#

k c u f

brave field
mossy spear
brave field
#

the iGPU really isn't going to give performance a $600 PC should have, but its an option

mossy spear
#

as a console player, I should leave, I have no clue what's going on here 😔

jovial tide
#

me neither

ionic aspen
brave field
#

I'd still really consider the prebuilt. There's an HP on Walmart's site that shows up once every two weeks at $390 or so, it has a Ryzen 5300G and a 1650 super, pretty much the GPU's price with a free PC attached

jovial tide
#

390?!?!

#

thats ceap af

#

cheap

ionic aspen
#

how in the entire fuck did you do that? i tried something like this and it came a bit over 800

jovial tide
#

magik

brave field
#

Its often just that ram is some $30 overpriced for no reason on PCPP.

jovial tide
#

i buy things with big numbers FeelsNeatMan

ionic aspen
#

i bought a prebuilt from walmart once before, and the gpu just randomly died for no apparent reason after like 2 months

cold elbow
#

U look like a very wise guy

fervent granite
#

walmart
died for no apparent reason after 2 months
expected

brave field
#

ouch

fervent granite
#

even on black friday too smh, guess cyber monday will have to do

jovial tide
#

i bought a cyberpower on black sale for 1300

#

its my third one now

#

2 are absolute trash

#

the other 2 are trash

fervent granite
#

Been looking at a cheap ssd to replace one of my laptop's slow hdd's but didn't find anything eye catching

#

I feel like amazon/walmart just make it seem like they're having a big discount, but really everything is like $5 off at most

brave field
#

SSD prices seem higher than normal today

fervent granite
#

Reverse black friday kek

echo peak
#

ayo guys

#

is ryzen 5500u good for gaming?

#

my friends say it’s alright but idk

arctic yarrow
echo peak
#

i can copy paste the specs for the laptop i found if you wanna look at them

arctic yarrow
#

Sure

echo peak
#

i know absolutely nothing about the laptop other than it’s doesn’t have the best ram lol

#

HP 14 Laptop, AMD Ryzen 5 5500U, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB SSD Storage, 14-inch Full HD Display, Windows 10 Home, Thin & Portable, Micro-Edge & Anti-Glare Screen, Long Battery Life

arctic yarrow
#

Nothing about the gpu. Do you have a link to it?

echo peak
#

yea

#

“amd radeon graphics”

arctic yarrow
#

That's using an integrated GPU, you'll probably be limited to 1080p 30fps on titles 5 years old or older, or 720p 30fps low settings on modern titles.

echo peak
#

30 fps 😬

arctic yarrow
#

If you're looking for a laptop that can give you a better experience at gaming, I suggest looking for a laptop with dedicated graphics.

echo peak
#

will*

arctic yarrow
echo peak
#

ight

#

damn

#

was hoping to get away with something cheaper

#

unemployed highschooler moment

pliant lynx
#

HP laptop are often higher-priced imo

arctic yarrow
#

And garbage IMO, had more HP laptops fail on me than I can count.

pliant lynx
#

@echo peak u tryna game on the laptop?

echo peak
#

yep

echo peak
pliant lynx
#

u can check Nitro 5 series by Acer

echo peak
#

i just need a decent budget laptop tbh

pliant lynx
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altho they are about 2.4kg +/-

echo peak
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enough to run mid sized games at 60fps

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any suggestions?

arctic yarrow
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If you're tight on money, I recommend checking out your local classifieds for used gaming laptops if that's an option for you.

echo peak
pliant lynx
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im not in the states, so price might differ

echo peak
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honestly

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not a bad price

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id need to save up for it tho

pliant lynx
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the problem i have with nitro 5 is the battery

arctic yarrow
echo peak
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but isn’t intel worse than AMD??

pliant lynx
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im using it atm

arctic yarrow
pliant lynx
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yeah

arctic yarrow
echo peak
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oh lol

arctic yarrow
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Both are very comparable in the midrange.

pliant lynx
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well he wanted a USD$700

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budget

ionic aspen
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back

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Wait wrong chat sorry

arctic yarrow
jovial tide
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@jovial tide go to file explorer then copy this to address bar C:\Program Files\WindowsApps
press enter

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it asks if you want to get permission, press continue (it fails) then click on security tab

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click on advanced -> click on continue -> change the owner to your username -> make sure your user has full control under permission entries -> enable inheritance -> press ok

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then find that forza folder try to launch it

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if the forza folder gives you errors you can also override that as well

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So I launched via the exe but the same error pops up

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here are my permissions for the file also

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check if yours check out

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also, you can do chkdsk (chkdsk /r /f)

jovial tide
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Id burn my pc if it ever ended up like that