tech-coding-math

[cold elbow]

Which distro has the most guides and support out there? @brave field @jovial tide

[inland dove]

any good cpus? in a $500 budget?

[jovial tide]

In my opinion, the best cpus are with Ryzen, ou shouldd be able to get one within your budget which us better than the intel alternative

[civic cloud]

500 budget just for the CPU?🤨

[jovial tide]

If you're not talking about taxes, I would recommend buying the ryzen 5 5800x which is exactly in your buget

Actually I was wondering about that too

Anyone know a good website or something for beginning javascript coders? I started but haven't found anything good for learning it

[civic cloud]

Dude asked a question and then left

[inland dove]

would this be good? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B086ML4XSB/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=peskc-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B086ML4XSB&linkId=7b28eef8be3cc2e2cceb59806cd569a5&th=1

looks insane

wdym by that? like play? might play basic games like GTA Minecraft, i also edit in AE, VEGAS and Premiere Pro

[cold elbow]

WHY LINUX ALWAYS MAKES A BIG DEAL OF A VERY SIMPLE THINGS

i cant remote to it because no display is connected ... and i have to buy a dummy adapter

[prisma charm]

What did you expect out of the penguin?

[cold elbow]

FUCK THIS SHIT

[prisma charm]

Lmao

[cold elbow]

it's always simple things that triggers me

[prisma charm]

Why you using Linux? 🤔

[inland dove]

Ah. GTX 1650, 16 GB, DDR3, Gateway H57M01 (CPU 1)

[cold elbow]

home server

since docker on windows sucks

[inland dove]

gotcha, thanks

[cold elbow]

IM RAGING NOW

[inland dove]

Im CA

nice

lets say i do decide to get like an i7 10700K, would a this run it fine? https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-TUF-B560M-PLUS-Motherboard-Thunderbolt/dp/B08W6PSC52/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Asus+B560M-A+%2B+10400F&qid=1637019536&sr=8-2

kk

[brave field]

Use XRDP for Windows clients and any sort of VNC or X11 forwarding otherwise. For docker commands, just use SSH. A desktop environment makes it harder to use. Don't use a dummy display adapter for anything, they're entirely redundant.

Your support question, use Debian, though Ubuntu has more forum posts and Arch has a larger wiki. Debian is super stable and can use almost anything Ubuntu/Linux Mint/Pop_OS!/Elementary OS have. All the APT commands are the same, and you can use their installers, stackoverflow answers, wikis, IRC chats, and sometimes their repos (watch for dependency conflicts though)

[brave field]

@cold elbow Can you describe your setup some?

[cold elbow]

Wanted to make use of an old system as a server
So I installed popOS and was planning on throwing it somewhere then remote access it by let's say anydesk
But that gives me a black screen because no monitor connected to it

Only way is to use a dummy adapter or some complex way to create a fake monitor

Once again i waste tooo much time trying to solve a simple issue with linux

[brave field]

Anydesk is not made for servers

unless you go with their paid version designed for use in cloud services like Azure or GCP or AWS

Pop_OS! is a bit strange for a server setup too

Do you need your remote display to output audio?

[cold elbow]

I just want to remote to it locally since i want to work on it from my computer

It works fine with my windows server

[brave field]

aaaah

What kind of work?

[sour marsh]

I mean I saw Linus nuke his whole PopOS

so

[brave field]

I like your thoughts

Do work through SSH. If you can't work in SSH, do work on your non-server system, and store the results of your work on the server. If you can't use that, XRDP/VNC will always work without a fake monitor. If you can't use those, spin up a VM and remote into that. This is really an Anydesk problem, no?

Know what its called?

I'm using Lubuntu desktop for my VM server and don't see

[cold elbow]

Ahh yes more distros

[brave field]

Lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXQT as the desktop environment, identical to Ubuntu otherwise

but really, use Debian or Ubuntu server

they always work and they're pretty much the same thing minus Canonical's telemetry and snaps

[cold elbow]

Pop

Latest

[brave field]

heavily suggest XRDP

[cold elbow]

I prefer anydesk because i can set it up in like 1 minute

And be able to connect from anywhere

Remote Control and file transfer

It's also fast

Does it work without a monitor tho

[brave field]

I think you may have to use some sort of VM if you have to use Anydesk. Anydesk just doesn't support headless systems

xRDP is alllllmost perfect, there's just no sound by default (obligatory neofetch)

[cold elbow]

Windows doing it just fine

And i noticed that the requirements for trueNAS is now 16gb ram

Minimum

[brave field]

Works on Windows through RDP shadowing, maybe there's something similar with xrdp but I have no clue

TrueNAS, why considering? It has a web interface but you can't access it outside of your network without port forwarding, and BSD has much worse support for something proprietary like Anydesk than Linux

[cold elbow]

I can run some of my services on it

Mainly containers

The only solution lol

[brave field]

you'll lose remote desktop going for it, you only need containers though?

If so, why not go for a Linux instead of a BSD?

Docker doesn't even support BSDs anymore

[cold elbow]

Nas is just another project

[brave field]

ah

[cold elbow]

I want a system with desktop environment mainly for remote access

Think of it as a VPS

[brave field]

oh

VPS services achieve it using VMs as well, doing it on a base install is a bit problematic, hmm

xrandr can make a virtual display output, then

[cold elbow]

I tried it

Too complex for my stupid brain

[brave field]

xserver-xorg-video-dummy looks like it should do it, a few people are saying it works for anydesk

config file is well-documented and is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
The remote display situation could definitely be better though, and I 100% agree that its frustrating (Parsec, why can you randomly not host on Linux anymore?!)

[arctic yarrow]

Hey, that's what I have set up on my home server.

And yeah, that's the only way to get anydesk to work on linux on a headless machine.

The downside? They detect that you're connecting to a linux environment and automatically assume you're using it for business purposes.

[brave field]

Bartor! Hello!

[arctic yarrow]

Yeah?

Hello

What were you just saying about a poweredge?

[brave field]

oh

I was asking if you had or recommend any poweredge/proliant models

same for routers/modems/switches

I'm able to search for local deals again and want to replace my old junk with better stuff

[arctic yarrow]

Unsure, I bet you have a more recent server machine than I do.

[brave field]

Raspberry pi 3A+ with a dead/corrupt SD card, i3 4120 Dell prebuilt I got out of a scrapyard for $2

They don't suck but neither are good for installing more than one hard drive, I really want either a real server so I can get cheap SAS pulls or a mobo so I can throw drives in a case I have

[arctic yarrow]

I have a dell workstation with a xeon e5-1603 running as my server.

Spent $50 on that one.

And spent another $150 for the 8tb HDD for my media server on it xD

Just checked the model it's a precision T3600

Honestly, if you're not going massively overkill, I'd recommend checking out businesses that are liquidating their old hardware, that's where I got mine.

[brave field]

That's a really nice system, and with the option of an 8c16t CPU!
Where do you find business liquidation?

[arctic yarrow]

I found it from my local classifieds.

In my case, I went to ksl.com and checked out the classifieds section.

Not sure if you have that option.

[brave field]

Thanks

[arctic yarrow]

NP

[arctic yarrow]

Anytime I get DM'd by someone with a cryptocurrency symbol on their avatar, that's an automatic report for spam.

[arctic yarrow]

Bruh

That's pretty racist.

[jovial tide]

Hey I need a new keyboard, it needs to be full factor and have red switches with swappable keycaps. Full RGB and preferably wireless under 200 nzd(so like 150 usd)

[civic cloud]

Wireless keyboard 🤨

[lost fossil]

rk920

[jovial tide]

If ure a gamer you better forget abt wireless mouse/keyboard

[pallid orchid]

there are actually wireless mouse and keyboards that have a faster response time than wired

razor is pretty good for that kind of thing

[civic cloud]

:doubt:

[jovial tide]

Why do people hate wireless lol

It's not the 90s anymore wireless stuff works well

[pallid orchid]

yeah ligit

[civic cloud]

Still gotta change batteries

[jovial tide]

My mouse is a razer wireless one and only cost me 60 usd

[jovial tide]

I dont hate it, just not good for gaming, imagine ur battery gets exhausted in middle of an online game

Good thing widows telss you're when the battery is almost empty

Legit told me my mouse battery was on 5% and I just replaced the battery

even then, it interrupts your gameplay

Yea for like 10 seconds

[pallid orchid]

wired can get in the way a lot and having wireless frees up a couple of usb ports for other things like a web cam and usb sticks for things like a windows repair

[civic cloud]

I got USB ports for days, cba with changing batteries

[jovial tide]

I can't think of any game where a 10 secons distribution is that big of an issue

[pallid orchid]

tactically reloads mouse

[jovial tide]

Exactly

[pallid orchid]

or you could just get one that can charge and have it sit there over night charging

[jovial tide]

Yea but this cost like twice as much as ones that use batteries

[pallid orchid]

besides a mouse doesn't suck up a ton of power. like compared to a controller for consoles a mouse' power usage is god tier

[jovial tide]

Yea I have had my mouse for 2 years and only needed to replace the batteries twice

And one of them was last week

[pallid orchid]

i just spent like the last 6 hours converting 80 something songs from .mp3 to .wav just to get better sound quality

[lost fossil]

there are actually wireless mouse and keyboards that have a faster response time than wired

having wireless frees up a couple of usb ports

spent like the last 6 hours converting 80 something songs from .mp3 to .wav just to get better sound quality

nuff said

[civic cloud]

That

[kindred temple]

Wat happened?

[civic cloud]

Makes no sense

[kindred temple]

#2 and 3 dont make sense

[civic cloud]

None of the three things make sense

[kindred temple]

But #1 is disputable

#2 would make sense if any of these damn peripheral makers let us have a beefier receiver that can receive keyboard and mouse

#3 is just plain stupid

[jovial tide]

wireless mouse/keyboard are 'occasional/portable' devices used for situations that make sense like for someone who travels and types alot with their laptop, or for times when you connect pc to ur home tv, or control DVR devices etc, not for everyday use for desktop PC

[lost fossil]

logitech have a unified receiver thing b ut i don't think it's a good enough tier for pro mlg sports gamers

[civic cloud]

I'm sorry but that input lag would ruin my skills in CSGO with my laptop and 50hz screen

[cold elbow]

what happened to arash

[kindred temple]

Damn he got banned? @brave field

[cold elbow]

yeah i cant find his messages

so idk

[kindred temple]

Me either

[sour marsh]

probably to assume he got banned

[cold elbow]

After long digging trying to install trueNAS the only way was by installing an old version of freeNAS them upgrade it to trueNAS 12

Let's see if it's going to work

[civic cloud]

poor Arash :(

[civic cloud]

300 IQ

[cold elbow]

well it's working now

[civic cloud]

yay

[jovial tide]

arash is banned? why?

[cold elbow]

Idk

[latent drum]

news be like
: 7900XT might consume 500W , epic and cool performance everyone should wait and buy it
: 4090 might consume 550-600W, what the fuck is Nvidia thinking? they except people to get fucking 1200w psu?

[bold cape]

guys... windows has the on-screen keyboard function... is there any way to use this with my controller? to be able to put in text, or simply chat, while not using the keyboard

[arctic yarrow]

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/use-the-on-screen-keyboard-osk-to-type-ecbb5e08-5b4e-d8c8-f794-81dbf896267a#:~:text=To open the On-Screen,screen until you close it.

[bold cape]

it says "select the options key" there literally is no options key, except the one that leads to the input-settings from windows, and thats another thing... at least looks like

ah nvm

i had a whole different on screen keyboard... weird

[arctic yarrow]

What about pressing "winkey-ctrl-o"?

[bold cape]

this is the one that the shortcut opens, the one that seems to be the one that the website refers to

this is the one i always used

[arctic yarrow]

Maybe that one comes with the xbox game bar or something.

[bold cape]

weird... thanks tho

[arctic yarrow]

NP

[brave field]

arash vaporized huh?

Why is it so hard to find i7 4702mqs 😭

Out of production, sure, but they barely exist under $100 used too

[cold elbow]

u mean 4720?

[jagged lark]

This written in python (bad quality cus screenshot from images)

So in c++ would the code be roughly the same amount of lines or down to like 10-20?

[brave field]

@cold elbow nop, 4702

4712mq would do too

Really want an 8 thread in my laptop for WSL2

There has to be some obscure, non-English website where they're selling them for $30 somewhere

[cold elbow]

Never heard of that

[brave field]

o

socketable mobile CPU, I wish they still existed

makes for a thick laptop but its nice having options

[cold elbow]

I have two old laptops like that

From like 2010

[brave field]

Lenovo?

[cold elbow]

Vaio

[arctic yarrow]

So... My uncle just gave me a couple of his old AIOs.
HP Pavillion AIO with an Intel I7-8700T, 12gb DDR4-sodimm, and a 1tb hdd
Apple iMac with an Intel I5-7360u, 8gb DDR4, 256gb ssd and a 1tb hdd.

I think I should sell the iMac, but should I part out the HP or sell it?

The processor on the HP isn't soldered, I disassembled it to verify that.

[fervent granite]

You don't want to salvage the imac?

[arctic yarrow]

I mean, it works, and I'm sure most of the parts are soldered on the logic board.

[fervent granite]

Well yeah but what I meat was, you don't want to keep it?

It's a pretty good machine

[arctic yarrow]

No, I don't have a use for it.

nvm, looks like the CPU and RAM aren't soldered on.

[fervent granite]

They aren't but getting to them is a pain

[arctic yarrow]

But... apple products still sell really well, especially near university campuses.

And there's two universities less than 50 miles from me.

I guess I could put an ad on my local classifieds or advertise on my uni's discord.

[brave field]

sell the mac

ebay buys all apple products at their original MSRP

The Pavilion, have a friend or family member or neighbor? They don't seem to sell super well used

8700t is awesome but I don't see the other parts making >$100

[arctic yarrow]

@brave field Would it be a good idea to throw in a cheap m.2 ssd in the pavilion? I've noticed there's an unpopulated slot when I was tearing it apart, and in my experience win10 runs terrible on a HDD.

[brave field]

If selling out to just anyone, no

but if you have someone who can immediately use it, I think that's worth

[cold elbow]

I heard that old macs can be a good home media server

So yeah they worth something

[jovial tide]

what kinda question is that!

[jagged lark]

I'm asking if i write all that in c++ would it still be as long or code gets reduced to about 20 lines

[worthy schooner]

Currently working on a presentation for online gaming, and I wanna include what kind of hardware servers have that are owned by Ubisoft, EA, R*, PS, Xbox, etc.

Any useful sources?

[kindred temple]

most of EA and Xbox runs Azure @worthy schooner

[worthy schooner]

They're using Cloud?

Ok, and any sources on what Azure runs on?

Or do you have a source I can use for that? @kindred temple

[civic cloud]

Might be able to just write azure support and ask them

They usually show off with what hardware they use

[jovial tide]

considering there is more than one method to implement a program in each language, it is highly depending on the program and also the abilities of the developer. a 50-line-code program in python wont necessarily be reduced to like 10-line-code program in c++

[unborn crane]

i just wrote hello world in java and now im goining to get programming job

also gtx 970 or gtx 1050

which should i buy

[unborn crane]

R* runs on peer to peer but dont know about authentication servers tho

[brave field]

@unborn crane970

The 970 is MUCH more powerful

[unborn crane]

hmm alr

are there small form factors for 970?

[brave field]

ASUS and Gigabyte have some

I think they're pretty expensive though

[unborn crane]

kk

[lost fossil]

3.5

[unborn crane]

Me: searches for gtx 970
Amazon: gt 710, fuck you

[junior flax]

I love gtx 970

I run it

[unborn crane]

i think imma buy second hand

[junior flax]

I would

[unborn crane]

not gonna pay msrp rn

[junior flax]

My whole pc is 2nd hand

I bought it 2nd hamd

[unborn crane]

probably would need ot rip out my kidney to buy msrp

[brave field]

The 970 isn't manufactured anymore

[junior flax]

And added 870 evo 500gb ssd

[unborn crane]

[brave field]

second hand is the only reasonable option for it, ye

[unborn crane]

amazon sucks

all they show is gt 710s

[junior flax]

Gtx 970 i5 4690k 16gb ddr3 2tb hdd gang

[unborn crane]

62 dollars in shipping

bro wtf

are there any i5 7400 7th gen compatible motherboards

?

[worthy schooner]

That I know, but I was hoping to answer the question:

How much RAM, or what kind of CPUs, GPUs, etc. does a Server need?

For a AAA-Game.

[unborn crane]

might help idk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS1FcT93Qy8&vl=en

really dont know about server equipment

[brave field]

Anything Z270, H270, B250 and their 1xx variants should work @unborn crane

[unborn crane]

alr

i almost found a gtx 1050ti for a steal

[brave field]

That linus video is for running remote game clients, not something like the backend for games

[unborn crane]

then the shop keeper increased the price right when i was about to buy it

absolute fucking monster

[worthy schooner]

Already added that to my sources.

[unborn crane]

alr

[brave field]

I'd imagine the standard for things is Xeon/EPYC sorts of processors, with some Nvidia or ARM processors for datacenter use

[worthy schooner]

Figured. It didn't help much.

[worthy schooner]

Is this related to the game server topic? Just to make sure.

[unborn crane]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133833056141?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item1f29125f8d:g:pScAAOSwUH1hAwdv&amdata=enc%3AAQAGAAACkPYe5NmHp%252B2JMhMi7yxGiTJkPrKr5t53CooMSQt2orsSHYXPhGXR5uguexJBeHwfgfY6SWLuHKDCqBpK62txSwLVJ5g6A9qEAP%252FiV8eMlCF966sK3%252FZXAV5t5p%252FNpJGePqzHhinR%252FNPSGzHKlC9rc0tJWyBl2StTQZktxzGiOYsKRTaC6QyM%252Fwy7BV3g5tH9dSpDEqUDMB8FcbHBDV3iGUhicdte1G0sIwm80akgY9Sb2Xo7CJ1EPIdxtxxUtIPhFgNehGQ%252BMgTA2od0gKGqeTflrGihjrSh3Wv022Lqe7f8xOh%252Fhwij%252BUTzRzAeXmjnDhXMJZxYo1hvoHRtG32cRYKQmwEtSkH8WeYeAPif5EHMANQv%252Ft2TTTFB5rVa%252B%252FaJoqvZLMl70raGLhc9cR6dzTz6ZULntBnX%252Bq8xDLvdfUmbvU7K6IEm4F57kqg8n8euY1O67SoE%252Fd67g6bcl30bNb5Tn%252BXWKxWh8O%252B3csc3bceNt6jcs58Cx56t8u8p5WmtYpksusaRH4%252FVvqIjpjnNp371I6em13Fqt2Iru3V4s7w%252BMNf0HIdEV0illNNR%252B%252B3BST84BScfLvxijoAeMlop4%252FZf7iuNPeCkIkmpjCyd0pyysejgzcnEfcY74Wj6NsW%252FqTtIXzbJ57LP3QeJEMfgJtiHBhaiLxXxC9UiTbHr5trLuzCgpZen2lhrZaAh%252BA9OUVhej4hMeaJ%252BAtN4Yn9Gw4zpFX6JmK3oFfjLIfmJHksPUNN%252FC8%252FqC5Q8WS1PqSVMPkK6i1WFFiM4llnj9MwS0eMH%252FcFzHTbC1nMySLee8LYgMP3snI1QnIt6lU0vfY4wvrIzGDvJTFEGpm7cuN5SqP59vlrTfSQQHY8nxBB8eraj|clp%3A2334524|tkp%3ABFBMnIGm6qVf

[brave field]

yes

[worthy schooner]

So an Intel Xeon CPU.

And an Nvidia Quadro, I assume?

As an example.

[unborn crane]

idk dont do server shit

[brave field]

likely a system with 2 EPYC or Xeon processors with no GPU at all and 2TB+ of ram

[unborn crane]

i hate prebuilts man

[brave field]

but depending on how they deal with their data storage, maaaaybe an Nvidia Axxx GPU

not for any graphics output, just compute

[unborn crane]

this dell prebuilt im using has such a shit mother board and psu

[worthy schooner]

Ah right. My platform will handle graphics.

[unborn crane]

gonna try removing the cpu and putting it into a new pc

[worthy schooner]

The game servers will only handle data then.

[unborn crane]

hit reg and shit like probably yeah

[worthy schooner]

I worked on something. I might get two screenshots rq.

[brave field]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/217216/intel-xeon-platinum-8362-processor-48m-cache-2-80-ghz/specifications.html

*note no proof of use specifically for games though, but these and processors like it are used for many, many other server workloads

[worthy schooner]

I know, I'm putting these into tons of HPE server configs. lol

1st pic is just to give an example of what servers have to calculate in a 3D environment.

2nd was an attempt to explain how inputs are handled by a server.

And trying to tie it together with the ISO/OSI layer model.

[unborn crane]

my tiny brain cant understand this hit

nice presentation tho

[worthy schooner]

1. User input - W key
2. input encoded into binary
3. code is packaged and prepared for IP transport
4. TCP readjusts packages in correct order
   5 - 7) input is sent to session / host application.

Same way vice versa, server responds to input.

[brave field]

game networking sounds like a nightmare to work on

[worthy schooner]

@brave field Correct me if I'm wrong.

[unborn crane]

i got confused where to start reading it from

[brave field]

some things are verified by the client and others by the server

how people balance them both to deal with latency problems is strange

[worthy schooner]

Then there's also the topic of "handlers".

Like, deciding who shot first in a FPS.

[unborn crane]

whoever does server shit in multiplayer games

i respect you guys

[brave field]

ah yes

[worthy schooner]

Btw, this is all in PowerPoint. Hand-made.

[unborn crane]

nice

[brave field]

client 1 says it shot first, client 2 says it shot first, client 3 says they killed each other at the same time, server says no shots were made or received at all

all in a split second, even though the players all have 40ms+ ping

[worthy schooner]

Package loss in a nutshell

[unborn crane]

gonna save up money for a gpu so i can actually play games

[worthy schooner]

By the time you saved up, they'll only get more expensive.

[unborn crane]

ill sell my balls

[brave field]

just wait for the revolution

[unborn crane]

snip snip

[worthy schooner]

RTX 4070 cough

[unborn crane]

i think i heard someone like stole a van of gpus idk

gta v: rtx 3090 hiest

[worthy schooner]

For all I know, scalpers can be mad.

[unborn crane]

https://kotaku.com/a-truck-full-of-precious-pc-graphics-cards-has-been-sto-1847999927

holy shit

[brave field]

blogspam

[kindred temple]

Old news

[unborn crane]

[worthy schooner]

Also, Kotaku.

[unborn crane]

i got ratioed + fell off

[civic cloud]

@kindred temple hiiii

[kindred temple]

Gaussssss

[worthy schooner]

@kindred temple Should I also put on my christmas pfp already?

[kindred temple]

Yes

Alpha already put his on

[worthy schooner]

Fuck it.

[unborn crane]

all i want for chirstmas is a gpu

[worthy schooner]

Done.

[unborn crane]

funny hat

[slim bluff]

Might start working on a program to read and execute lambda calculus

I don't need to fuck about with Turing completeness as it is inherently Turing complete and everything is in a prefix notation

all I need to provide is a TRUE and FALSE function

\TRUE.x.y -> x
\FALSE.x.y -> y

[cold elbow]

Windows installing update on this old core i7 laptop with 8 threads
It's only fully using 1 thread

Windows bruh moment

[slim bluff]

kinda like compiling gentoo but forgetting -j4

[brave field]

Everything depends on something else in Windows, it will only get worse with 11

To update one thing, you have to update its Microsoft Teams-base, and to update that, you have to update Edge webview, and to update that, Microsoft pushes a full kernel upgrade

[slim bluff]

I like being able to control my updates 🙂

[brave field]

with your package manager

[slim bluff]

sudo xbps-install -Syu

[brave field]

how do you get one package from another repo without that repo being searched up when you update the package list?

[slim bluff]

wdym

the idea of adding different repo's in void is non-existent

[brave field]

o huh, interesting

[slim bluff]

although THE repo is massive

[brave field]

Wondering for Fedora, Debian, and Arch

I add one non-free repo for an Intel extension, and suddenly have 34000 packages to update

would be lame if I just have to get that one package, then remove the repo link again

[slim bluff]

well I guess void has the nonfree and multilib (32 bit) repos that are built in that must be enabled

[jovial tide]

you can install the package you want, then disable the repo in 'sources.list'
or (this might seem abit silly ) you can hold all the packages from that repo with 'apt-mark hold'

there may be other solutions which im not aware

[brave field]

heading to the repo's site and manually grabbing the package despite the red text saying to add the repo url

[jovial tide]

or yea, download the specific sources u need and compile and install it

good luck fixing all the dependency trees it needs

[arctic yarrow]

Is there anyone here who is familiar with JS?

[brave field]

What do you need help with? (I'm awful at JS but having the question out in the channel may make it easier for someone experienced to help)

[arctic yarrow]

So I'm using an LC-3 simulator located at this web address for one of my classes:
https://wchargin.com/lc3web/
And I had an idea for implementing an assembler instruction named ".STRINGZP" which would act just like ".STRINGZ" except pack 2 ASCII values into each memory location instead of 1.

The idea came to me while I was looking at some possible bug fixes for the PUTSP trap instruction.

Right now, the assembler info is located in a file called "lc3_as.js" when inspecting the HTML on that page.

I'm gonna throw the contents of that JS file into a txt and link it here.

So far, for reserving the required memory space, I think this would work:

    return operand.length/2 + operand.length%2 + 1;```

But I'm a complete newb in JS, this is literally the first time I've started to mess with it.

For a comparison, this is the option for .STRINGZ:

       return operand.length + 1; // for the null-terminator```

I'll likely be taking Web1 next or following semester, which delves into JS.

I'm gonna revisit it over TS break and see if I can wrap my mind around it.

[slim bluff]

TS makes JS bearable

JS is a mess in production

[arctic yarrow]

To clarify, I meant Thanksgiving break.

Not sure what you meant by TS there.

[slim bluff]

ah, but still my point stands

TypeScript

[arctic yarrow]

ah

[slim bluff]

its JavaScript with static types

[arctic yarrow]

Gotcha

So... Javascript is considered a bit of a mess?

[slim bluff]

sort of...

without types and in a large team of developers things get ugly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydkQlJhodio&t=262s

[latent drum]

fanboys never disappoint

[brave field]

They're right though

Can't confuse it with the new and improved Clever Access Memory!

[latent drum]

people still really think that adding DLSS to games is hard af

[latent drum]

SAM on radeon is a disaster though , i dont think it needs it

"some hours"

[arctic yarrow]

@brave field @slim bluff, so I emailed the person who made that LC-3 simulator about a couple bugs with it, and the suggestion to add that instruction to the assembler, and he actually responded asking if I could put it in his Github.

😄

[latent drum]

alot , some people dont know some lineups

[brave field]

@arctic yarrow Nice!

throw that on the resume!

Open Source Contributor Bartor495!

[arctic yarrow]

Dude, I am so gonna throw that on.

[latent drum]

[arctic yarrow]

There was a major bug with the PUTSP trap subroutine, and a minor one with the HALT trap subroutine.

[latent drum]

i like how its just idioting butchering of both sides with no one understanding how shit works

[arctic yarrow]

What PUTSP was supposed to do was read all 16 bits in a memory location, then output two ASCII characters on the screen. What it was actually doing was reading bits 7-0 and outputting only that. The issue with HALT was it wasn't saving register 0 and 1 before it stopped the processor.

[kindred temple]

Maybe instead of memeing them, teach em

Or ya know

https://c.tenor.com/Z1oUNKXoSEwAAAAM/goos.gif

[latent drum]

iam not like that dude that commented on 300 comments on 1 thread

its fun to watch though

that buy the shit that works for its time
nvidia and amd dont give 2 fucks about you

[brave field]

wtf

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/11/apple-announces-self-service-repair/

[lost fossil]

fake

these drawings remind me of the beatles' yellow submarine cartoon

[junior flax]

1299.99 today!

[slim bluff]

nice going

[kindred temple]

oh btw @supple walrus

kek

can i own an apple now?

[supple walrus]

No

[civic cloud]

No

[pure ledge]

Hi everyone

I’m trying to build a pc

Idk what parts I need

Cuz I’m rlly bud at those stuff

if u mind helping me w it dm me:)

[cold elbow]

No

[civic cloud]

Damn

[lost fossil]

post here or bust

[jagged lark]

Lol my local computer shop does sell rtx cards

Willing to bet its either 2060's 2080's or 1660's in the box

[lost fossil]

the new sku of 12 gb 2060 might be targeted towards miners

who else needs 12 gb on a 2060

[civic cloud]

Me playing Factorio on 4K obviously, duh

[lost fossil]

no,shush

dont counter my point

[trim pumice]

For a friend, who's looking for a laptop

They want to know whether it's good for the price

[cold elbow]

Looks like a solid pc for its price

[civic cloud]

Looks reasonable

Check for reviews how the overall build quality is

Keyboard/screen etc

[kindred temple]

An F15, pretty nice to run

Pretty much mangled up Zephyrus.

[forest kestrel]

anyone got a 6600xt here?

[worldly crypt]

@forest kestrel I do

[worldly crypt]

Could they find a cheaper one without windows? Or same price but no windows better spec

Also 11th gen somewhat worse than 10th gen

[supple walrus]

[brave field]

12gb 2060 looks to be a great rendering card

OptiX, possibly cheaper than anything 30 series, with enough VRAM for a decent amount of detail in one scene

[brave field]

WoT who?

[unreal iron]

World of tanks

I haven't done anything other than unplug and plug in the external drive

No updates

But now the game doesn't load and spits out this error

[brave field]

looks like two files the game needs are missing

[unreal iron]

How?

I didn't delete them

[brave field]

might be corrupt from the drive being removed or something while it was writing to them, or the drive is dying, or it has a different drive letter after you plugged it back in

[unreal iron]

So reinstall the game?

[brave field]

Is the external drive showing up as F:/ in explorer?

[unreal iron]

Yis

Prior to this I have flushed dns, deleted the %app data, and restarted the pc twice, shut down and turn back on once

Those were previous suggestions

On the forums

Oh and uhh resetting my Nvidia 3d settings to default

[brave field]

You could check if the files actually exist at the paths its looking for and run CDi, but its probably just easiest to use the "verify game files" option in the launcher if its in there

if not, reinstall

forums might be trolling, no relation between dns not being able to find a local file

[unreal iron]

The company actually suggested deleting the app data and that if it didn't work "we can't help you any further"

[brave field]

appdata is a fair suggestion

I think you avoid it though

appdata is on C:, you have game on F:

[brave field]

unless the game has also made an appdata folder on your F: somewhere, but then you have to find that, as %APPDATA% only directs to your USER account one in C:, in your Windows environment variables

[unreal iron]

Hmmmm

Searching for it now

No

Nothing found

Integrity check 15% done

[unreal iron]

Ayy it works thanks. Doing God's work

[brave field]

anytime friend

[supple walrus]

@unreal iron where did you install wot from

steam?

oh nvm

fixed

[unreal iron]

Their stupid launcher

[supple walrus]

Ah

Yeah it's trash lolll

But if it ever happens to a steam game, its an easy fix (missing files) @unreal iron

[stuck crescent]

how to fix

[kindred temple]

Thats just bent a bit up, no?

Just bend it down a little.

[jagged lark]

Is the asus prime z590-p motherboard any good?

I mean.... it does support 3000 series gpu's and 11th gen intel cpu's

And its £200 unless thats too expensive for a motherboard

[kindred temple]

Prime lineup on Coffee and Comet is just garbage

it wont throttle properly and just run their VRM to the ground

its fine if you keep everything at literal default, but beyond that

its a r s e

[jagged lark]

Worth it?

[jagged lark]

So pass on it?

[kindred temple]

whats the cost of 10400F and 5600x?

[kindred temple]

Pretty much. Better off with a solid B560 than them.

[jagged lark]

£185 and no 5600x, just the 5600g at £260

[kindred temple]

well then 11400F if you have a GPU laying around

[jagged lark]

Only priced motherboard on website, others are around £100

[jagged lark]

Lol no gpu

[kindred temple]

well then 5600G if you cant find output GPUs for temp usage

[jagged lark]

Browsing the website to see what i wanna buy before heading into the store and picking up the parts

Well these are all the cpu's available

Pretty sure they have other types in store

[kindred temple]

wow thats arse

[jagged lark]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07XQJG798/ref=asc_df_B07XQJG7981637146800000/?ascsubtag=s1637318077909l6aka52439&tag=52439_iceleads-21&creative=22374&creativeASIN=B07XQJG798&linkCode=df0
1 left in stock

[lament relic]

how hot is too hot for my laptop?

[lost fossil]

i say if you don't have a gpu laying around then get a 5600g

the cpu part of it is alright and the gpu part is much better than intel

thankfully i now have a gpu laying around

[civic cloud]

above 90 is a lil hot,above 95 is concerning at 99 it throttles

[civic cloud]

weird flex

[lament relic]

ok thx

do laptop cooling pads work?

[civic cloud]

a bit, wouldnt bet on it

[lament relic]

bc when gaming it usually hits mid 80s-90s

and i am getting concerned

[civic cloud]

that can be noormal for a laptop

how long have you been using it? might want to clean it

maybe dust is reducing cooling power

[jagged lark]

Id go with the cheaper option which is the i5 then buy the gpu after

Ima mainly use the pc for GFN and maybe blender and unreal engine and visual studio

[brave field]

@jagged lark Though the 5600G's iGPU is much more powerful for games

Intel may make much more sense depends on how much you use those first two

Geforce Now decodes faster on their iGPUs and blender is entirely unusable on AMD GPUs (unless you start booting into Linux each time you want to use it)

[junior flax]

whats a good monitor

for around £130

dont need like 144hz whatever

i only run 60

[kindred temple]

A TV off of old mate in Craigslist or sumn

[junior flax]

my monitor is like that rn

is bad

[kindred temple]

Itll be better than whatever 23 incher you can find on amazon

Iirc 23MK600 by LG is still in that range

Its super barebone for a monitor tbh

Used AOC C24G Could be an option???

Not sure with UK pricing

[junior flax]

yes

probs

[latent drum]

me watching my I5 sucking 25W while my RX 580 suck 160W

[civic cloud]

my starting to sweat because my PC uses like 400W

💦

[latent drum]

for the millions time that not 400w of electricity is equal 400W of heat

[cold elbow]

Nobody said otherwise

[civic cloud]

outplayed

[brave field]

Does Aliexpress have haggling like Alibaba does?

I'm looking for 2650L + ATX board for under $80 (something like this, minus ram https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001460971049.html)

or one of the lower-power 8 core variants

[lost fossil]

RX 580 kinda if that's true

[cold elbow]

wym

[brave field]

I mean

can I beg the seller for a discount

on alibaba there isn't a payment button at all and many are open to offers

[lost fossil]

you can i think

if you slide into their dms

[cold elbow]

i have not seen something like that but you can contact the sellers

[brave field]

alrighty, thanks

Any recommendation on a 6+ core CPU under 95W TDP that I can get with a board for $80 or less?

Intel has a couple hundred MILLION different lines of weird embedded 8c8t Celeron and such, different Xeons with the same name, the low-TDP -t SKUs having weird pricing, I'm still lost after hours

[cold elbow]

A ryzen 1600

With a320 or even b350

They are very cheap

[civic cloud]

I'd only slide into your dms :*

[brave field]

definitely would go for 1600, but I'm struggling to find them under $60. $45 R5 1400s though... tempting

[kindred temple]

1400 is fine, but you gonna need to OC em to get any better value off em than a 1600

[brave field]

moving my server stuff out of this awful dell SFF PC

it seems much cheaper to just find something else than get a 4770 + ATX board with how awful the prices are on ebay

[latent drum]

You running it at 1533?

[lost fossil]

no

[jagged lark]

Lol my local shop's selling 3080's

Sonofahitch said it's £750 then quoted £1400

[cursive saffron]

steal them

[civic cloud]

fucking scam lmao

[jagged lark]

The build came out to £2.8k

I9 11th gen, 3080ti, "frost" cooling and 32gb ram

Oh and windows 10 was added on for £120

[zealous pasture]

i want a laptop with this kind of cooling system

[cursive saffron]

mf looks like a squashed murcielago

[zealous pasture]

its a lambo themed laptop

[cold elbow]

It will probably still suck

[civic cloud]

SUCC

like a vacuum

[warm pine]

2+2

[charred arrow]

got a deal on a rx 570 for $50, i have a 1050ti rn, worth it?

[arctic yarrow]

Dude, where did you get it? Hell yeah that's worth it!

THat card provides almost double the performance of a 1050 ti

[charred arrow]

oh

good then

[charred arrow]

one of my friends is selling his pc and like that

[jovial tide]

[brave field]

nice deal!

1050ti prices are super inflated used, you might be able to get $180-$200 if you sell it afterwards!

[covert carbon]

Banned y a s#3958 (Case #128205) (user notified with a direct message)

[nova steppe]

they tried too hard to make it look like the car, because those vents are comically small for the space available

[junior flax]

Mfw

Thats,like half what my pc cost

[jovial tide]

@brave field

I Need you

Since your good at PCs

I built and am buying my PC parts this week

Its my first ever time getting my own PC

So I have a few questions and I need someone to rate my build!

(Ping me if your there)

[kindred temple]

@jovial tide i exists

This entire chat exists

[jovial tide]

Well bet

[kindred temple]

You dont need to call up cookie for it

[jovial tide]

Let me get my list

[kindred temple]

[jovial tide]

I'll show you

[jovial tide]

Well yea true lol

Can I send links here?

I dont want a auto ban or something

[kindred temple]

Level 5 role needed for links

Send to my dm ill send it to this chat

[civic cloud]

Are you sure

[kindred temple]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/vLTsy4 @jovial tide @civic cloud

Very

Im gonna quickly critisize this over my head, but honestly its so close ill just quickly remap it.

All game no other tasks right?

[jovial tide]

Wdym

[civic cloud]

GPU heccing expensive, PSU should be gold not bronze

[kindred temple]

I mean what you use on it

[jovial tide]

The PC?

I'll play heavy games on it

[kindred temple]

Yes

Sheesh

Aight cool

Fine with 144?

[jovial tide]

Like MSFS20 4k, Forza 5, BeamNG, Teardown..

[jovial tide]

I Want the 240 ngl

I Like smooth

And its a godly offer

[kindred temple]

144 is plenty smooth if you havent experience it

[jovial tide]

200€ for a 27" 240

Thats really really good

[kindred temple]

1080p240 is just eh tbh

1440p144 is more flexible for both esports

[jovial tide]

Oh yea well quality

But idk

[kindred temple]

And picture quality.

For 1080p, anything above 25 inch just gonna look poo.

[jovial tide]

Oh well erm

Idk about that

Im not good at PCs

I Had help building it

Or atleast

Listing the parts

[kindred temple]

no its just basic display knowledge and viewing distance

not related to PC at all

[jovial tide]

But

You cant see the difference bettween 1080 and 4k

You can but not easily

Like from your POV when playing you cant see the difference can you

[kindred temple]

Yes, the only benefit is when youre looking at static imagery and very low refresh rate content

like old mastered movies at 24.9fps

[jovial tide]

I Still have my 4k tv tho

I dont wanna watch movies on a small monitor

(Small compared to the TV)

[kindred temple]

for big TV in 2021 you gonna want 4k tbh

its dumb going for 1080p 55s nowadays

[jovial tide]

I do have a 4k yea

Okay but

Is the PC build good or no

[kindred temple]

im making a rebuild on it, wait.

[jovial tide]

Right okay

[kindred temple]

This is the best i can muster if you want a PC that can perform now. All you need is an extra mass storage 2TB HDD down the line. https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/LKGc3Z

OR, you can go with the 5700G route and add a GPU down the road when the price normalize.

[jovial tide]

But

My graphics card runs as a 3060 they said

[kindred temple]

Yes and?

thats the Ti version

with upgraded CUDA cores and memory bus

[jovial tide]

Wait

How about

My PC

But

I change the graphics card with a 3060ti @kindred temple

[kindred temple]

still bad investment tbh

overpriced case

underspent PSU

[jovial tide]

Eh true I guess

But

[kindred temple]

and 32GB of overkill ram that you wont need

[jovial tide]

I Want to make it look cool together

[kindred temple]

except maybe Teardown but iirc its more CPU bounded

[kindred temple]

you dont get "cool" at sub 2000 euros you naive boy

if it wont make the FPS up, its out.

And besides

aesthetics can be done later.

You need to nail the core components first, especially in this stupid shortage shenanigans.

[jovial tide]

Well I guess yea

[kindred temple]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Rxk63Z 400 eur spare

use that to get a 3070 when theyre back at their lower price.

or hey maybe you can get some part times and chores to fetch a 3080

[civic cloud]

Lmao why is he muted

[kindred temple]

idefk bruh

[civic cloud]

btw Hi Claire :D

[kindred temple]

@jovial tide welcome back :)

Here, have at it.

[jovial tide]

Hello

Whys 1TB 2x more expensive than 2TB 💀

[kindred temple]

Because nvme

And instead of dramless TLC now its DRAM TLC with a decent controller built in.

[iron lantern]

because that 10 less seconds of boot time with nvme

[kindred temple]

And running DRAM with TLC is just a courtesy.

[cold elbow]

@kindred temple whats an affordable 1tb nvme i can get?

[brave field]

kinda like the idea of 5600G or 10400F and using the extra on a GPU, if having great graphics performance immediately is important

[unreal viper]

amazon black friday nvme

cost about half the price

[kindred temple]

Mushkin Enhanced Helix

Or the Team Cardea Zero

[jovial tide]

how to get my pc unhacked i cant report security breach

math math math

[fervent granite]

clean install your os

change your passwords, use a password manager, etc.

[jovial tide]

How?

[kindred temple]

Just give up and quit internet

or fucking google it

[jovial tide]

i made new discord account

and i scanned my pc it says no viruses found even tho somehow the person can still control my pc

[hearty stirrup]

Turn your pc off start it up pay attention to what it says when it boots and shows a button u need to press to go into bios then boot reset again spam that key once your in bios boot into safe mode from there

[jovial tide]

bios

i dont get that

factory reset my pc???

[hearty stirrup]

Nah its like the main settings

[jovial tide]

ok ima go into it

[hearty stirrup]

Safe mode means it only starts basic stuff

[jovial tide]

do i do that or

[hearty stirrup]

Yeah safe mode then delete whatever u downloaded

But factory reset would be better for the pc

[jovial tide]

hm

[jovial tide]

i got back from High up in the police force they are going to do a IT malware scan

and will make sure everything is fine

[kindred temple]

Oh after that you should go to hospital and ask a psychiatrist for a stress management.

[jovial tide]

na i dont need i just need this dumb ass IP hacker in a cell

[kindred temple]

One down million will turn up

just dont be an idiot and stay vigilant of anyone you meet on the internet.

get to know em first.

[fervent granite]

Instructions unclear, ghosted everyone

[lost fossil]

maybe but first you need to stop clicking on free nitro scams

[civic cloud]

But they said they would give me free nitro for a year 🥺

[jovial tide]

i dont click on links

they did it in dms

lmao

[jovial tide]

no they got my IP awhile go

[junior flax]

Ok chances are ur files r all gone

So give up

First

Change your bank details and all account details

Second

Clean install windows

[pliant lynx]

meanwhile in China

[civic cloud]

What

[cold elbow]

This is the power button btw

[glad grove]

Best pre-built PC for FH5?

Feel free to send any links

[brave field]

@glad grove Budget and country?

[glad grove]

Nothing above 1500, USA

Thanks

[brave field]

This with some upgrades might be worthwhile https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-3600-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-6600-xt-500gb-ssd-black/6481360.p?skuId=6481360

Needs a hard drive and some ram, but otherwise its at an okay price right now

The extra $350 or so after could go to a nice monitor, a second monitor, headphones, bluetooth adapter, etc.

[jovial tide]

@brave field https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/461386571552391168/911372208042016849/Screenshot_20211119-154642_Walmart.jpg Since I trust you with these things more than anyone, is this a good deal for a pre-built? I suggested to my friend about getting an upgrade from his slow laptop but im not too great on pricing and he sent this to me

[brave field]

bad deal imo

[civic cloud]

5700G and a GPU is dumb

[jovial tide]

Any place you can suggest that has something like this but cheaper?

[brave field]

Its overpriced for a 3060 system

[glad grove]

Wdym by needing a hard drive and some ram? Sorry I am new to PC building

[brave field]

The PC I linked above has slightly better overall game performance at $500 less

[jovial tide]

The cyberpower one?

[brave field]

yeah

[jovial tide]

Ight, I sent it to him. Thanks

[brave field]

@glad grove That PC only comes with a 500GB SSD, it'll very likely need more storage if you plan to do more than solely FH5 on it. The 8gb of ram it comes with isn't awful, but is really a ripoff at $1000. Having more active, heavy processes (like a game and multiple web browsers open at the same time) works better with more ram.
Adding these two solves it: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mwrYcf/seagate-barracuda-computer-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm008
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XHc48d/patriot-viper-steel-8-gb-1-x-8-gb-ddr4-3000-cl16-memory-pvs48g300c6

@jovial tide same thing, if they're using it mostly for games ^^

[glad grove]

Thanks

[ionic aspen]

hey im trying to build a fairly budget upgradable pc, limiting myself at 800 bucks, is this a good build for it as it is now? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bL8r2V

[brave field]

Leave off the third party cooler and case fans until you know for sure you need them. The ram looks overpriced, this kit may fit better https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5

[ionic aspen]

i checked around and it seems like the case only comes with one fan, should i still just see how well it works?

[brave field]

No particularly hot running parts are in this. At worst, that one fan will run a bit faster than it needs to, if the system will legitimately benefit from more fans

[kindred temple]

Silicon Power

[tawny zenith]

Vega 7 isnt really good for gaming

For gta it would do fine tho

[brave field]

wish I knew what brand/die this ram kit was, why is this stuff not being posted anymore 😭

[charred arrow]

Got the exact name, it's a ASROCK Radeon RX570 Phantom Gaming D 8G OC

[ionic aspen]

what do you suggest then? i just need one that games decently until i can get my hands on a cheaper side gpu

[ionic aspen]

so should i put the one fan as intake or exhaust?

[brave field]

intake only leaves you with the mostly closed off front, but I think it'll still be a tiny bit better than using it on exhaust

[tawny zenith]

R u only looking for new parts?

Cos if u were to buy a second hand gpu it would be 10x better for ur budget

[jagged lark]

In a water cooling build does it water cool both gpu and cpu?

Cause im thinking i can cut off a couple hundred ££ by removing watercooling

[brave field]

you choose what it cools in a custom loop

if you're buying a preassembled CLC, its probably only designed to cool your CPU

specs?

[jagged lark]

Off the shelves build

[jagged lark]

This list

[brave field]

That's using a preassembled CLC

it only cools the CPU

since your CPU is a 10700KF, that watercooler could be useful, if you overclock or keep it at its 5ghz boost often

[jagged lark]

Clc?

[brave field]

closed-loop cooler

[jagged lark]

I'm not really interested in overclocking. I mean speed is high enough

• i can reduce the cost down to £2-2.5k if i get rid of certain pieces

[brave field]

Swap to an i7 11700F (or 10700F if they offer it) and remove the watercooler then, should be some $70 cheaper on the CPU for the same performance

[jovial tide]

I need help wince u guys r the smart guys

since*

[brave field]

you can get roughly the same performance out of ram that costs less than half of that https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8QcCJ/silicon-power-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320bdaj7
980 PRO is a bit useless in a PC like this if its a gaming system, similar SSDs should be in the $130 range or less
You're overpaying for Windows, you can reuse any Windows 7 or 8 keys to activate 10 just fine.
The $90 optimization charge is a complete scam

[jovial tide]

i need help w my monitor

[jagged lark]

Is the cpu 11700K only watercool able?

Should i go for 2,3 or 4 ram sticks with same size?

Is 980 overkill

[jovial tide]

Im just gonna ask, my monitor is stuck on a selected resolution that i cant change. Its just stuck on a stretched res

[brave field]

@jagged lark The 11700K's sole purpose for existing is overclocking

since you don't have interest in that, it doesn't make sense to pay all the extra, is all

[jagged lark]

@jovial tide should be able to change it via display. Choose the recommended res

[jovial tide]

thats the thing, i cant

[jagged lark]

Oh and what about i9 or is it underperforming with the chosen gpu?

[brave field]

i9s are useless for games

[jagged lark]

Window's 11 then idk. Maybe it's already at normal res

[jovial tide]

its way too zoomed in, theres no way

[brave field]

Do you have GPU drivers isntalled?

[jagged lark]

But for other things like unreal engine, visual studio and maybe 3d modelling work

[jovial tide]

how do i check that, its my first time getting a pc so im new to this

[brave field]

What GPU do you currently have, then? @jovial tide

[jagged lark]

The pc will be mainly for gaming but for other work at a side

[brave field]

Visual studio runs on toasters, unreal possibly could benefit, but that's more a GPU thing, 3D modelling is GPU-accelerated

Don't think any of those will really benefit from more than 16 threads

[jovial tide]

as in the graphics card? Or something else

[brave field]

yes

[jovial tide]

3060 ti

that also brings back a question, probably more important

my graphics card on device manager has an error code 43

[brave field]

yup

sounds like you need this https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/results/183939/

[jovial tide]

alr

Ima download discord on it rq so i can access the link through there

wow, everything is pretty stretched on discord too lol

[jovial tide]

also, ive already reinstalled my driver

[brave field]

The Windows 11 one, through Nvidia's official installer on this site?

this might just be a Windows 11 issue then. Sorry I can't help, I don't use 11.

[jovial tide]

Hmmm

i reinstalled my actual gpu and driver, still had the error

i havent tried updating it

idk, we'll find out

[brave field]

Code 43 can show up if the GPU isn't physically installed entirely correctly, or if its defective as well

If this doesn't work, could you take and send a picture of the area where your GPU meets the PCIe slot?

[jovial tide]

yeah could be the problem as I didnt really build it

it said “no driver found”

[brave field]

what is saying this

the Nvidia installer or device manager?

If Device manager, you need to use that link

if the installer, something is very wrong

[jovial tide]

idk

what would it say if it was the device manager?

[brave field]

Sorry for poor communication, I meant to ask

where did you see that message?

[jovial tide]

on the installer...

[brave field]

alright, something is very wrong

Could you take and send a picture of the area where your GPU meets the PCIe slot?

[jovial tide]

idk what the pcle is tho, i recently got this pc a day ago

Not even

There are 2 hanging cables that arent connected to anything is what i can see

[brave field]

send a pic of everything inside, if possible

[jovial tide]

i can take the cover off and show u inside

if needed

[brave field]

mmmh, that looks fine for this card

never mind the other picture I was thinking of, don't open this system up

return this to the people who built it for you

if they charged money for it, they owe you a working product

[jovial tide]

Ok

they owe me abt 2 grand back

that sucks man i was ready to play

[brave field]

$2000 for a 3060ti system?!

[jovial tide]

no

1,500 + tax and the other stuff added

so its a faulty graphics card?

[brave field]

$1500 😭
Its either a faulty GPU or poor installation, yeah

[jovial tide]

it was 1500 cuz of prebuilt, idk how to build pcs

[civic cloud]

hard times

[brave field]

There's a 6600XT cyberpower at $999 today, its surprisingly okay https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-3600-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-6600-xt-500gb-ssd-black/6481360.p?skuId=6481360

@jovial tide don't open it or anything though, just explain the code 43 thing and the drivers not working, in case they try to revoke their return period and warranty. They should replace it without you having to provide a reason ideally.

[jovial tide]

ok

so not only a new monitor, but a new pc

that sucks

im also having other problems with the monitor

[brave field]

What's up with the monitor?

[jovial tide]

crashes for no reason, unable to be turned off, half of it doesnt work, terrible in general

[brave field]

sorry to hear :(

[jovial tide]

yeah

I was excited too

im not mad, just disappointed

[brave field]

understandable

[jovial tide]

I had high expectations for cyberpower

Also my brother couldve been at fauly

fault

because he was pulling on cords for some reason

[brave field]

Did he open it at all?

[jovial tide]

we had to

there was that safety stuff

so it didnt get hurt while being delivered

[brave field]

oh, the expanding foam stuff!

[jovial tide]

yeah

now im just sitting here staring at the pc in disappointment

[brave field]

really can't fault him for that, if cyberpower has to shipped it that way, there are risks with components becoming dislodged when removing it, just like if it wasn't there at all

since its already been opened

could you take a pic of this area?

[jovial tide]

yeah

[brave field]

oh wait

they have a guide on this process, nice!

https://support.cyberpowerpc.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018983173-Re-seating-your-video-card-graphics-card

be sure to shut down and unplug everything first

[jovial tide]

oh ok

[brave field]

Any improper installation/removal, mishandling, or negligence on your part, will be counted as physical damage and therefore void your warranty. If you have at anytime concerns or wariness please contact our technician support.

call them first, I think. Someone should be able to guide you over the phone, and then it won't void warranty if its their employee (I hope)

but it not being fully in its slot can cause 43, so its worth a try

[jovial tide]

alr

ill unplug everyrhinf

[brave field]

externally

I meant

just making sure, sorry

[jovial tide]

yeah

I mnow

i cant type, sorry

heres the interior btw

theres disconnected cords from the card

idk if its suppsoed to be like that

[brave field]

that's normal

this area

if there's any visible gold/bronze metallic-y parts where the GPU fits into that plastic piece, its an installation error

[jovial tide]

I see some kinda idk

I really dont see anything imo

should i just return it?

[brave field]

If you're confident, you can try their guide, but I'd get on the phone with someone and get a return/replacement/technician

You might be able to get it to work quickly if its not the GPU itself, but a new product should just work out of the box tbh

[jovial tide]

I tried a bit of their guide

no luck

Oh no i tried the entire thing

lol

didnt work

[brave field]

be sure to not say that if they ask you any questions

return time, sadly

[jovial tide]

ok

that really sucks

thats nice

[lapis spruce]

What’s happened?

[arctic yarrow]

Is that UserBenchmark?

Please don't use that, they misrepresent performance.

Also, their "benchmarking" software is essentially a virus.

I mean, not really, but it fucks with the system a little bit.

[jovial tide]

ok

[jagged lark]

What motherboard goes with an i7 11th gen not the oc version, 3080ti, 32gb ram and 2 m.2 slots?

This way i can build the pc for a price upto £2k instead of the £2.8k price built

[cold elbow]

11th gen

[jovial tide]

whats the best cpu to get for windows 11

[brave field]

Probably the 12900k or 5950X

[cold elbow]

The WD is gen4 if that makes any difference
Anyway which one u guys think best?

[arctic yarrow]

as far as price/performance goes, the crucial P5 would be the best. However, both the sn750 and the samsung 980 pro top performance.

[cold elbow]

Tough to pick 😩